assassination

[grave trail]

yeah luxthos had pandemic in it already

[spice spire]

Same thing

[storm belfry]

cause i would imagine in aoe you still just sbs all mobs

[spice spire]

Off the rip, maintain Kevin

[spice spire]

More sbs = more Kevin

[storm belfry]

it stacks?

[timid cloud]

Yeah.

[storm belfry]

oh shit

[timid cloud]

Caps out at 45s

Because Bonespike.

[storm belfry]

does sims not account for that? cause still sim higher w bonmesmith

[spice spire]

They do

[storm belfry]

weird

[grave trail]

ok finally got it to work lol i just deleted the luxthos default one

[storm belfry]

do you use a WA for kev or nah?

[spice spire]

I do

I just added a sound

The really annoying rubber ducky does it for me

[grave trail]

rupture pandemic with vendetta is 3.8?

[proper tapir]

3.6 at 5 cp (in vend with 4p)

[grave trail]

3.6 gotcha thanks and yeah with 4p

[storm belfry]

I assume I could find one on wago

[spice spire]

Yes

You can

And you can do whatever you want to make it work

[storm belfry]

[proper tapir]

Kevin duration stacks, every time you sbs it adds 10 seconds. imo, as long as you aren't holding high sbs charges then you don't really need to track the uptime. Just use sbs early and often.

[timid cloud]

I should probably do the same thing for Rupture & CT, right @limber lion ?

Should I just copy-pasta the same thing I did with Garrote, I'm assuming?

[limber lion]

Yes

[timid cloud]

I'm so bad at math tho...

[grave trail]

3.6 for rupture according to merk

ct no idea

[proper tapir]

Guys, pandemic windows outside of vendetta are [(bleed duration) * 0.3]. In vendetta it is [ (bleed duration) * 0.15]. Get the bleed duration from the tooltip on your action bar, from the spellbook.

[true swift]

With venth 4p am I only applying ct during flag or do I maintain constant uptime?

[frosty cedar]

constant uptime

but dont let snd drop

[timid cloud]

You don't seem to understand...I am bad with numbers, EXTREMELY BAD...

I press the buttons, just not on the calculator.

[restive falcon]

run ma or subter for necrolord in 2+ cleave

im 2-3-1-2-2-2-3 rn but should i run subter and deeper for 2+ cleave?

[timid cloud]

1?

[restive falcon]

EP my b

[timid cloud]

I was gonna say.

Yeah, also that's a personal preference, but Subter is the move, Deeper is personal choice but it performs better than Vigor.

[proper tapir]

The Sin FAQ channel has some guidance for that stuff

But you should Sim it, you can do a patchwork sim with 2 bosses and compare talents

[glossy turret]

!cache

[prisma monolith]

Cache of Acquired Treasures usage:
Axe is always the strongest weapon.
Note: The Weapon rotates every 12 seconds in the order Sword -> Axe -> Wand

[storm belfry]

i still use zoldyck in keys not duskwalkers if i have no 4p yeah?

[spice spire]

Correct

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[formal herald]

!GUIDES

[amber fossil]

is there a boss tip guide out, for like when to Vend on Pantheon?

[balmy condor]

yeh on cooldown as long as they aren't phasing

[amber fossil]

hard to find a good window to use the whole timer on it

between all the switching and add phases

[obtuse robin]

[balmy condor]

yeah that's just how it works

[ebon notch]

bruh mastery is one of my stop stats rn

thats how far ive gone

[fleet whale]

doesn't really surprise me that mastery is the best stat for some people now, this isn't like BFA where we had huge gaps in value with regards to secondaries
plus that 4 piece venthyr snapshot thing probably boosts the value of mastery a little bit

[gloomy epoch]

progress boys

[ebon notch]

Wait why zoldycks with 4 set

Why not duskwalkers

[exotic rose]

Do we refresh CT during shiv + vendetta (4p) or the logic is still the same, preferring envenom?

[ebon notch]

Envenom garbo

Literally everything takes prio over envenom

Unless snd is falling off then you envenom

But you can usually find a global where nothing is in pandemic where you can envenom

[exotic rose]

CT falls very quickly during vendetta though, not many empty globals

[clear finch]

Lol ninja in liquidation 🤣

[glass tulip]

@ebon notch with DPS numbers like that I dont think we are allowed to ask questions 🤣

[ebon notch]

It's lords of dread post change

These numbers are very doable

It really depends on how long your group will take in the execute phase

I still think duskwalkers is better as you'll have it for every burn phase

[glass tulip]

fair point

[split grail]

How did I parse 9% but am still in the top 50 rogues?

[obtuse robin]

not enough parses

[balmy condor]

no one plays this shit spec

[split grail]

Yeah...I

I'm thinking of learning sub

barf

[balmy condor]

realistically sin is fine

[split grail]

At least I have a heroic EoN

[balmy condor]

it's just sub the preferred

[split grail]

Honestly my dps is shit. I'm really REALLY hoping 4pc fixes it for me cause I'm running 4pc leggos

[obtuse robin]

if u dont have mythic eon then ur prolly better of with sin

in raid anyway

[split grail]

I don't even know the sub stat weights. I've never played it in 14 years of rogue. As long as it's not as chaotic as outlaw I should survive

[obtuse robin]

crit/vers for st

[tacit pebble]

i sim like 500 higher with 4p as sin than sub xd

feels no eon

[solid venture]

Eh I have 2x 259 eon and my sin also sims higher xD, for venthyr atleast, haven't bothered simming kyrian cuz I don't have it leveled

[kindred rapids]

Well not surprising then if you're using the wrong leg

Sin has felt pretty bad to play this tier until you get 4pc

It's like night and day

[split grail]

That makes me feel better. I don't need to be top dps or anything but I hate feeling like I'm hurting my team

So 2 weeks at most and I'll have my 4pc

[solid venture]

4pc sin is kinda hectic during vendetta, especially on cleave situations

Do you even gar or rup the 2nd or 3rd target at all during vend or just hardpump maintarget

[subtle tundra]

Sin is really behind sub without 4pc, even more so if you play bad leggo

But it's on par with sub with 4pc

For raid

M+ is something else

Cursed answer

[split grail]

Meh, I'm not too worried about m+. Although I do want to get my timed 20s this this tier for the portals

[normal mist]

Had to think twice about which channel was assa

[pearl ingot]

This, don’t know why Names have been changed. But now Outlaw seems to be the least criminal one…just the opposite of reality.

[stark ravine]

the april fools notes: Rogue
Now when Rogues come out of stealth, they emote at their target with finger guns. zoop! - this sounds amazing 😄

[normal mist]

Imagine if we really did that

[jade minnow]

Ye idk i have been testing, two rogues, no eon, sub wins every time, excpt lords

[subtle tundra]

thats not how this works

lmao

do they have equal gear and both play perfectly?

i can bet the assa isnt playing venthyr correctly, if at all

[pearl ingot]

to be fair it doesn´t feel natural to play it like we are doing right now

[normal mist]

(Using ct ST hurts my brain)

[pearl ingot]

True

[jade minnow]

I tried assa myself, its mess compared to kyrian sub, which i hated at first try but loving it now

4pc ofc

[subtle tundra]

i've always been using CT in ST, since i was doing assa m+ last season

ez

[normal mist]

But it is just weird my dude

[subtle tundra]

i mean... you cant play assa and then say its worse cause you perform worse on it?

[normal mist]

My brain can't understand it

[subtle tundra]

venthyr assa with 4pc requires to learn how to play correctly to be good
sub is basically same thing

nothing to learn

assa and sub sim within 100 dps ST

with bis

[vestal wren]

even lower probably

iirc koji/cev still have a small apl improvement that could opt another % for assassination on single target

what would put both to about the same value

[subtle tundra]

nobody plays assa in raid for 3 reasons:

1. they got used to sub, why change, assa was straight up worse without 4pc so they had to play sub
   2.assa requires a lot of venthyr play to get it right
   3.they are copying what other people do, which is play sub

[vestal wren]

the reason sub is/was precived that well was (and is) the sylvanas dagger tho

without it you would probably see a sin tier

[subtle tundra]

yea, that contributes big time aswell

bis weapon at the start of the tier helps

[jade minnow]

Ok u say sims is everything, but as sub you have double step, which saves you a lot of walking on halondrus, rygelony jailer, etc... For assa it means less uptime on boss, playing around flag window

[vestal wren]

esp. on progression having 2 mythic sylvanas and esp. on jailer getting the extra dps during execute is very good

sub should win on halondrus

[subtle tundra]

wat

you barely double shadowstep

like... ever

[vestal wren]

its rly nice on sausage

[subtle tundra]

i dont have any problem

with 1

[vestal wren]

!fuu but i have fight estimates for all 3 specs in the sheet

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[vestal wren]

for like halondrus, lords, pantheon last phase, etc

[subtle tundra]

ok you gain 1 sec of uptime

[vestal wren]

also the pantheon change might make sin the better choice

as it means the last phase impact is lower

[subtle tundra]

i can say for sure

pantheon is not a sin fight if you have to kill an add

its

horrible

ff

yesterday's kill, i had to put soak on one side of the room and then go to the other and kill my add which had 5 seconds of vendetta uptime LMAO

and then bosses had 3 mil health when i came back

it was... uh... bad

[vestal wren]

thats correct, it comes down to your job on the fight

but that also means you have options

also the fight is low enough in the raid to maybe not matter

[solid venture]

Having to switch to adds when vendetta is up feels omegabad

[jade minnow]

Best log pantheon is outlaw 18k from yesterday dayuum

[solid venture]

Rl asks why my domination core dmg is low on desausage and all I sent him was

[subtle tundra]

domination core?

[solid venture]

It fucking dies in 5 sec

The add

[subtle tundra]

you mean mfd reset add?

[vestal wren]

on mythic?

[solid venture]

Yea by the time I get my bleeds up and do 1 or 2 envenom it's just fucking gone

Probably shouldn't be garroting it at all

[subtle tundra]

another reason for me to play assa is how much fun it is

i really like how it feels

[novel arrow]

Is Assassination Venthyr crimson tempest thing in raidbots?

[vestal wren]

yes

[novel arrow]

oh so I dont have to do any special api

[vestal wren]

the snapshotting is in the sim, some apl changes or optimizations might come over time

[novel arrow]

Because I wanted to sim for stat weights for it

And I didn't know if it was gonna giev me accurate stat weights

[vestal wren]

but its fine for evaluation

[novel arrow]

perfect ❤️

I wont lie Fuu. I'm kinda sad.

I was really hoping for Sepsis and chill. this spec seems so much less chill

[vestal wren]

nf isn't that far behind

and might be a lot less strict in gameplay

so i don't see why it wouldn't be a good choice

[novel arrow]

You know the assassination playstyle, you kinda want to do as little as possible 😛 Doing more means... I might as well play sub. Hahahaha

[solid venture]

This venthyr stuff is definitely not worth it on halondrus

[novel arrow]

No?

[solid venture]

Juggling bombs while ur vendetta is up feels omegabad

Or having to run out for any other reason

[novel arrow]

My guild is still progging Lihuvum

:S

[vestal wren]

juggling bombs when your shadow blades and dance is up probably also does not feel great

[balmy condor]

You mean your 95% uptime blades and 70% uptime dance?

[solid venture]

[subtle tundra]

yea ill probably also swap to nf if venthyr feels too punishing

on hal

[novel arrow]

Sub gets REALLY FUN with 4 set

[solid venture]

Sub is still infinitely better for that fight

[novel arrow]

before that.. meh

[solid venture]

But I don't wanna play kyrian

[subtle tundra]

in ST, nah, in m+ it was fun at the start now its frustrating when i dont get procs

[novel arrow]

Lol! I feel u @subtle tundra . Sometimes when it doesn't proc for a while. I'm like ... did it bug?

😄

[charred wraith]

casino-royale

[subtle tundra]

im not gonna play sub cause i dont want to play kyrian sub and also have to craft a new leggo

also, sub feels way less tactical than it used to

you just spam everything now...

[solid venture]

First outlaw, then sub...does blizzard want rogues to become gambling addicts?

Jk I already am one

[novel arrow]

I play sub now because numerically it's better for most raid bosses. I dont particularly enjoy it. I love assa. But for raid progression I can't play whats worse for now

[subtle tundra]

i can

lol

[drowsy parcel]

i can too

[balmy condor]

I can’t stand venthyr snapshot mfd nonsense garbage

[solid venture]

I only played sub ( venthyr only) cuz it was the better spec for early prog

[drowsy parcel]

you just gotta make it look good

[balmy condor]

But I get flamed for playing fae

[solid venture]

Now with 4p, I ain't touching sub again except for m+

[balmy condor]

But I also get flamed for playing sin by my guild

And then I get flamed by the discord for playing sub

It’s a lose lose lose lose situation

[vestal wren]

time to play outlaw i guess

[subtle tundra]

swap class, play warrior

[novel arrow]

Can't agree more

[solid venture]

Vicious circle

[vestal wren]

rtb has 5 buffs and killing spree, so 2 factors to fuck you in a fight.
5 + 2 = 7, your lucky number!
the stars align, you should praise it and play outlaw

[solid venture]

I still have nightmares from playing KS on slg prog

The amount of getting hit by blades during KS was too damn high

[novel arrow]

You guys didn't play killing spree during Wrath with Full armor penetration

it was the best thing ever.

[solid venture]

Saurfang trinket

[drowsy parcel]

five two seven lucky 五二七幸運 the stars align 星辰齊齊 praise outlaw 贊不絕口

[timid cloud]

I did, I killed people in the sky off of their mounts before they nerfed it in Storm Peaks, also played it when it was muti kidneyshot bam you’re dead in the stunlock.

I miss wrath…good times…

[vestal wren]

wotlk will be the next classic xpac

[timid cloud]

Yeah. But I won’t play it more than likely.

[subtle tundra]

i tried tbc, bought a boost

it was

so boring

[timid cloud]

I played Wrath on a private server from Cata to when I came back in Legion.

I’ll leave the past in the past.

[vestal wren]

i played wotlk, and it was fun back then

but can't image that repeating in classic

[timid cloud]

Yeah.

[subtle tundra]

im just waiting for bfa again!!!!

[vestal wren]

its not that it became worse, modern wow just has a lot of qol chanegs and evolution that is very barebones in the classic xpacs

i didn't like bfa that much

legion was my fav. of the more recent ones

sl probably the worse of all i played

[subtle tundra]

am i the only one who enjoys sl? 😦

[vestal wren]

i just had a talk with one of my guild members some days ago

[novel arrow]

Yes I agree, Legion was great. The first time I payed any attention to the story

[vestal wren]

how illidan was rly well integrated in the raids and story in legion

[balmy condor]

As 7 whole bananas, I’m incapable of feeling anything

[subtle tundra]

but i can feel you ;3

[balmy condor]

Yo chill

[vestal wren]

while sylvanas was soo bad done in sl, when the xpac is essentially "we do it like legion with illidan, but now with sylvanas"

[balmy condor]

We ain’t like that

[vestal wren]

but maybe, with not a lot of iconic characters left on horde, they manage to create some new interessting ones

[pearl ingot]

As 7 whole bananas you also shouldn’t be capable of liking things

[balmy condor]

Which is why we ain’t like that

[pearl ingot]

😪😀

[cobalt gyro]

Roll the Bones reworked. Roll the Bones is now Rogudle:
You have six guesses to figure out the correct combo that will kill your enemy, with correct combo steps appearing in green, unless they’re in the wrong sequence, in which case they appear in yellow.

[vale hull]

single mistake, u die

[waxen sigil]

The best part about Legion is we didn’t have to pray the blood gods to get weapons every fucking week

[gusty adder]

I loved Legion, no doubt - but I feel like everyone forgot about the shitty shit-legendary RNG-system and unending spam of maw of souls for currency upgrade our whatever it was we had to upgrade

[vestal wren]

nobody forgets about it

legendary aquisation was the worse

but its also something blizz likes to repeate.

• azerite armor at the start of bfa had similar impact
• corruption in bfa had similar impact
• domination in sl had similar impact
• sylvanas daggers have similar impact
• tier set in 9.2 has similar impact

the reality is, the loot system needs a change, neither of the systems was bad but the aquisition is

[drifting imp]

Idk why they open the catalyst so late... Why not give it to us this week it would stop so much frustration about Tier...

[vestal wren]

because:

• weekly vault does not reduce the impact of bad luck
• tokenized systems are often restricted or not used (no weapon tokens in 9.1.x?, tier tokens are not spread due to class popularity)
• bad luck protection does impact your loot drops by a lot (you can essentially get the same item every week on the same boss if unlucky)
• catch up systems are locked till very late in the patch cycle when most decisions on roster are already done and even then restricted

there are also some things that for me personally don't make sense

rogue is not in a bad position in that reguard, but why didn't they add off tier set slots to legendary powers that only have tier slots

i did hear it from mage/priest in my guild that they literally can't use a certain tier set piece because it overlaps with legendary powers

[vale hull]

prolly item designer working on 9.1 quit b4 9.2 prep

[marble hemlock]

fully tradeable persoloot pls. thanks.

[vale hull]

no lesson learned from 9.1

[dark crag]

Guild-master-loot

[vestal wren]

perso loot is perfectly fine if you don't have a deterministic way to get the high impact items

nobody cares if he does not get the 0.3% dps upgrade shoulders for a month

[vale hull]

better yet, y limiting tier effect only on chest, shoulder, head, hand or legging?

all slots should activate tier

[vestal wren]

but they do care if they don't get their 20% dps increase tier set piece (in context of assassination)

[vale hull]

except rings neck n trink

[dark crag]

In legion we also had back

[vale hull]

oh right

this kind of design reflects blizz didnt want tier to come back

"excited to show tier" in their 9.2 reveal vid

[gusty adder]

Skolex mythic ... What is even this - assass dead spec? :<

[subtle tundra]

.

[vestal wren]

you mean outlaw

[vale hull]

[gusty adder]

True. And at least im guarenteed a top 250 parse world, if I dont die instant

[strange python]

easier for me to get top parses then kekw

[subtle tundra]

Actually it's harder

It's only easier to get 100

[strange python]

worst case i'll be.. 279th

[vestal wren]

it rly depends who you ask

[subtle tundra]

A rank 2 isn't even a 99

[gusty adder]

Got top 66 parse yesterday with a complete fuckup in the last 1 (maybe 2) vendetta combos

[vestal wren]

there are 2 opinions, i know this because subtlety was in the spot for a long time

[gusty adder]

Basically 66th for staying alive

[subtle tundra]

Yea but 66 isn't a good parse

[gusty adder]

I know

I was meming 🙂

Point is - i wouldnt get top 66 as sub, fucking up like I did

[vestal wren]

#1 it is dump easy to get 100%tile because nobody good in the world play the spec
#2 it is harder because only people with high game knowlage play the spec and %tile compares against few players

#1 is a limit max take

[subtle tundra]

Yea I'm more of a #1

[vestal wren]

i think both to a degree

[subtle tundra]

But it also feels bad when you get r2 and it's a 80 parse

And you played really well

[vestal wren]

i mean logically seen you would see a lot more sin players

because new or unlucky players should tent to play sin over sub given no sylvanas dagger

but i feel like tier set aquisition plays a big role in that too, and sin rly only becomes strong with 4p

[gusty adder]

This is why I stick to assass for now

(that and I love assass more, granted.. am just so so anoyed that sub requires that dagger tbh)

[warm sable]

But Sylv dagger is best for assa too ... in OH

[gusty adder]

is not tho

[limber lion]

Assa bis

[vestal wren]

not going to open that can of worms, but it could be in theory in offhand during below 25% boss hp

[hollow dirge]

Assa so much more fun than sub right now. Not to mention all is planned and you don’t have to be pissed by no procs on 6 cp eviscerates

[vestal wren]

but diffrence even below 25% boss hp is minimal

so not worth it

[vestal wren]

assa with dusk and 4p is a lot more like sub 😛

with shorter cooldown cycles

[hollow dirge]

How come? Coz that’s what I play, and don’t see such correlation

[vestal wren]

assassination usually has a long-ish cooldown cycle with vendetta

[hollow dirge]

That’s not what makes a spec similar to another one though is it? This spec and sub barely feel like the same class

[vestal wren]

subtlety has with venthyr (what was the dominant choice in the last tier) a around 1 minute cooldown cycle (very rough estimate)

assassinaiton gets with dusk + vendetta to a aorund 1 minute cooldown cyctel (again rough estimate)

in terms of apm/gameplay they differ as sin is a lot slower

and also plays around snapshotting haste with the 4p

the similarity is just in the pacing of your big cooldowns

one of the big reasons why the tier set is such a big dps increase is in fact the option to lower vendetta cooldown by quite a lot

[hollow dirge]

All valid and true, but still nothing connects to how the specs actually play and how fun they are compared to one another.
I play both specs, but single target, I’d pick assa over sub any day of the week and twice on sunday.

[subtle tundra]

good opinion

very good

actually

best opinion

[vestal wren]

absolutelty, play whats fun for you

the outlaw tier set and shadow techniques are also kind of similar 😉

[zinc frost]

Outlaw has a tier set?

[spice spire]

What’s outlaw?

Oh, casino royale

[timid cloud]

What if I just enjoy all 3 specs?

A spec enjoyer, if you will.

https://tenor.com/view/chad-gif-22557388

[spice spire]

I too am a spec enjoyer

[vestal wren]

reality is most ppl will just play what works best performance wise for them

i don't think that there are a lot of one tricks

[clear finch]

I Sin in raid and Sub in keys 😅

[limber lion]

Brian just plays Assa everywhere, Brian does whatever he wants.

[solid venture]

If everyone was more like Brian, there would be world peace

Actual gigachad

[strange python]

Hi

[spice spire]

Howdy

[solid venture]

[kind talon]

That’s sub

[spice spire]

I said what I said

[bleak sky]

Whatever makes you happy QuakeitMake

[kind talon]

Whatever makes you happy bro

[spice spire]

[normal mist]

Fuu made me smile today

LOL

Voice chat totally not a trap

[quasi scroll]

is there a trick to playing subterfuge in keys in spiteful weeks?

or just live with losing all that dmg from never restealth

or begging the tank to hold pull for 5 seconds

[solid venture]

You press N and click on the subtlety specialization

And forget subterfuge exists

[quasi scroll]

🙂

[solid venture]

[quasi scroll]

I've literally been trying this

[bleak sky]

it's not significant

[solid venture]

Apparently the dmg difference between getting restealths or no restealths isnt as high as you think it is

[bleak sky]

you don't need stealth

[solid venture]

So doesn't really matter in the end

Just feels bad

[normal mist]

So we are fury warriors

But with poison

And worst

[quasi scroll]

oh

no garrote love

[normal mist]

There is garrote love

Every 6 seconds

Between tears

[solid venture]

You can build cp with sbs easily enough with deathspike if no restealths

Assuming u play necro in keys

[normal mist]

Never changing back from necro

It just feels... right

[solid venture]

Feels fucking bad maintaining bleeds on multiple targets and still do dogshit overall dmg compared to sub

Tornado go brr

[slow marsh]

Bruh who rekt our disc

[bleak sky]

joe

[limber lion]

Brian thinks it might have been the weebs

[slow marsh]

Dammit Brian

[spice spire]

Quakeitmake thinks Brian is correct

[slow marsh]

I need to also be discombobulated

What is my ravenholdt bizzaro name gonna be

[lofty hazel]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Herodamage: https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[bleak sky]

nochill

[spice spire]

Warmhammer

[hollow escarp]

you were not here last year?

[slow marsh]

Oh I forgot what day it was

Last year we were the shaman discord

[spice spire]

Yessir

Today we’re a weeb discord

[hollow escarp]

AND WE ONLY TALKED LIKE THIS

[slow marsh]

O

[vestal wren]

yes, my gf requested that for our guild server this year

will be fun

[hollow escarp]

nice

[spice spire]

[vestal wren]

only in one channel tho

[iron orchid]

the cat pfp is the most disturbing april fools

[vestal wren]

i had some nice ideas for this year too, but didn't have a lot of time

maybe next time, also might be worth to implement beforehand. The last minute implementaitons are all a bit stressfull

[spice spire]

Fluffy is also a homie
Just not the homie

[subtle tundra]

guys, dont wake up a sleeping dog, it might be a raccoon

[spice spire]

Mister varas, I’m always concerned about you

[iron orchid]

he suits nicely with the overall catgirl theme of the shadowblades

[spice spire]

Yessir

That was the joke I was going for

That and my pfp has always been my dog

[iron orchid]

i got the 2nd faster

[spice spire]

[kindred heron]

how in the world would we sim something like this

[vestal wren]

you finally aknowlaged cat > dog

[winter gale]

Nadjia and Theotar for ST assa are pretty much similar dmg ?

[spice spire]

Today and today only

[spice spire]

Close, you want to sim nadjia vs haste tea more than likely

[winter gale]

It would be best for me so I can stop swapping conduits 24/7 :S

:D*

[limber lion]

Black magic

[kindred heron]

thank you brian :' )

[viscid spear]

Man, good thing I have the other two channels perma-muted, was easy to find this one

[spice spire]

Greetings fellow robber in liquidation

[alpine latch]

Posting it here because fuck the law. How does the Anduin skip work?

Do you need to kill VG andthen it just activated his platform?

[ebon notch]

Wait we're a weeb discord now?

UwU how does mutilate work UwU

[spice spire]

You use both of your uwu daggies to penetrate the enemy

[alpine latch]

I don't like this one bit

[spice spire]

(I’m really bad at this)

[ember mural]

i know something else you can penetrate

[spice spire]

Bro

Everyone horny today

[ebon notch]

Who is being

[hollow escarp]

they seem fine to me

[ebon notch]

Yeah but you're sussy

[hollow escarp]

[ebon notch]

Confirmed

[slow marsh]

I'm pooping

[spice spire]

Nice

[autumn frost]

My discord just sent like 30 invitws to random people to this server.

Im noy sure how.

[bleak sky]

gz you got hacked

[slow marsh]

"not sure how"

Doubt

[vernal adder]

[vestal wren]

somone keps moving the channels :/

[subtle tundra]

sorry

[stiff garden]

Amogus

[subtle tundra]

ill stop

[vernal adder]

make me SB I can make it right

[bleak sky]

green ramlu when

[spice spire]

He deserves it

[vernal adder]

oh this is ass channel

im sub/Ol

[bleak sky]

changed my mind, don't give ramlu green

[spice spire]

Cutthroat highway man and casino royale man

[vernal adder]

[spice spire]

Silence sub player

[bleak sky]

I'm a freak quake

[spice spire]

This is my domain now (only when Cev isn’t here)

[vernal adder]

I like ass thou, wanted to check out sub

[bleak sky]

can't stop me

same I like ass

[vernal adder]

spec also

[bleak sky]

oh

[thorn fjord]

I love ass

I dont get to eat it as much as i'd like

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

Ayo? We waking up horny this am fellas?

[vernal adder]

yes

[spice spire]

Amen

[thorn fjord]

Its Friday

[stiff garden]

Didnt know y'all were this kinky

Im playing the wrong spec

[spice spire]

Buddy this is a daily

Tho generally more prevalent at night

🙂

[stiff garden]

Im guessing this is where I can go to sin? 😈

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

They should have changed the FAQ channels too

And watched the world burn today

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-burning-gif-8869638

[gusty mirage]

@bleak sky

[bleak sky]

what did I do

tyrant

[gusty mirage]

Name or pfp, pick just one.

I made the choice for you.

[bleak sky]

Tyrant

pfp is a national symbol

[gusty mirage]

Which nation is that again?

[bleak sky]

our mascot against testicular cancer

[gusty mirage]

You’re actually ridiculous

[bleak sky]

[ebon notch]

i joined your chat the other day and made an exceptional pun based on your naem

and you didnt even respond

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor @vestal wren which one of you did this to my name

[gusty mirage]

Was it in the middle of wiping to a boss I already killed? I may have been omega tilted at the time

[ebon notch]

nah you were clearing trash

[gusty mirage]

Oh so it was after we wiped four times to guardian

Was definitely omega tilted

[ebon notch]

you were going to desausage

[slow marsh]

sup daddy

[vestal wren]

not me

[gusty mirage]

For sure tilted then

[slow marsh]

brb making omurice to go along with the theme of the day

[gusty mirage]

Your name

[ebon notch]

anyway i called you occipital lobe

[gusty mirage]

[ebon notch]

cause oxi? occi? yeah it was hella funny

totally worth this conversation

[gusty mirage]

I agree

Much better than the smut @bleak sky posts

[ebon notch]

ty

[bleak sky]

true

[ebon notch]

i got approval from an echo representitive btw

assa is now pog

[dense hamlet]

[frosty cedar]

[echo geyser]

on god

[spice spire]

@echo geyser rate assa rogue tho on god

[vernal adder]

which god

[spice spire]

Yes

[hollow river]

Pretty dog poop

[echo geyser]

in raid kinda kizzler tho

(dekai slang) idk what it means

kizzy glizzer?

[ebon notch]

[hollow river]

You just said in raid sin is CAP 🧢

[ebon notch]

thats actually him btw

[spice spire]

Glizzy kizzler

[ebon notch]

not capping

not 🧢

[echo geyser]

[frosty cedar]

sin is giga god 🙏

[ebon notch]

he came to my guild because he wanted to do halondrus prog

[echo geyser]

yeah i know

[ebon notch]

for some god awful reason

[echo geyser]

he wanted to kill bosses he wasnt in on prog for

[ebon notch]

ye i get that

[echo geyser]

i got in on pantheon first time this week

can get sigil/elegy/boots in vault now

[ebon notch]

bruh i played sub first time on pantheon

why tf would i ever play assa

sub is so braindead on that boss

[spice spire]

Because you appreciate the grustle?

[ebon notch]

i dont know what a grustle is

[gusty mirage]

Don’t mind quake it make

He likes making up words

[spice spire]

?? Sorry for being a sigma

[gusty mirage]

You can be a ligma

[ebon notch]

you can ligma me

[spice spire]

Omw my way

[slow marsh]

i was feeling inspired

[carmine dawn]

am i just sending everything on CD as necrosin

[spice spire]

Yes. Lineup shiv as possible with vendetta.

But it’s not end of the world stuff

[carmine dawn]

garrote seems awkward to maintain on 2t

[gusty mirage]

It is, especially with 4pc

[spice spire]

It’s not that bad on 2t

4p 4t

Is

[gray fjord]

Yeah I've had a couple quirks with timing, I just make sure to prioritize whatever has vendetta obviously for that double speed

[carmine dawn]

so whats the play

[gusty mirage]

[gray fjord]

[slow marsh]

sus

[gusty mirage]

Okay that made me laugh

[spice spire]

On 2t I heavily rely on plater.

[gusty mirage]

I was like hold up

[gray fjord]

Tehee

[gusty mirage]

Brain melted for a second

[gray fjord]

uwu

[spice spire]

I keep on the vendetta’d target and will just swap to maintain rupture/garrote as they’re falling off, then swap back

[gusty mirage]

You have the mannerisms down pat too

[gray fjord]

i just need to not capitalize basically anything

and then it's just a matter of chiming in at the exact unexpected times

[carmine dawn]

vanish is used in vendetta to refresh garrote?

[slow marsh]

just make sure you spend most of your time in sub channel and only pop in sin when you want to bash sin

and say venthyr isn't a covenant

[ebon notch]

ur a furry right

[gray fjord]

[spice spire]

If you have subterfuge talented, it’s a good thing to do, yeah.

[gray fjord]

tbf I play NF sin because I'm lazy

[spice spire]

But if you’re running DW, you won’t have it for every vendetta ofc

Thoughts on snapshotting @gray fjord ?

[balmy condor]

[gray fjord]

i mean

i think it's pretty great

clutch gameplay

[spice spire]

0/10

[gray fjord]

really shows a lot of skill and charm

[slow marsh]

you failed the test

[hollow escarp]

sorry to see you got demoted @gray fjord

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

Bro this dude copied the banner and the bio and everything

[gray fjord]

Nah the bio isn't quite the same

[hollow escarp]

should also copy discord tag

[spice spire]

LMAO

[gusty mirage]

Smol pp

[gray fjord]

[slow marsh]

nanana the last line is exact replica

[gray fjord]

I was going to do to my tag too but I didn't want to completely obfuscate it.

[hollow river]

Loooool

[slow marsh]

jk idk i'm not that privileged like the other homies

[spice spire]

Ayo?

[balmy condor]

[slow marsh]

i said what i said

yal got that special tier 3 sub goodies

[raven vapor]

does this sim make sense to anybody? i keep getting results like this in trinket sims
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hxaukks5q69UTMh2NYDXP4

[hollow escarp]

you should try casino royal

[slow marsh]

yeah it's just double on use

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Looks normal to me

[raven vapor]

i mean that it's just swapping the slots of my trinkets around and saying it's a 50 dps increase

[balmy condor]

Yes

[slow marsh]

that's because sim uses top first

[hollow escarp]

because of ordr

some trinkets get multiple uses in a fight

[raven vapor]

ah

[hollow escarp]

some work better with big cds

[raven vapor]

makes sense now 🙂

[hollow escarp]

like IQD

[slow marsh]

sgt gets benefit from flag haste

earthquake doesn't

[carmine dawn]

if i use vanish on CD and refresh garrote outside pandemic, is that a huge loss?

[slow marsh]

uhhh depends i think

in what situation

[carmine dawn]

also vendetta makes CT bleeds unsync on 2t do i refresh when they both fall off or when the main target?

or shiv whichever

[slow marsh]

yeah vendetta you can just refresh CT its nbd

its generally close to the 2nd target pandemic anyways

[carmine dawn]

so empowered garrote is always prio

vanish and get that up asap

[slow marsh]

generally yes but also you know when it's coming up

so there's not a ton of reason to not hit in in pandemic

esp since vanish is always up before vendetta

if you're playing venthyr that is. i guess that's still not the popular build yet

[carmine dawn]

well for lords

if im necrosin

[slow marsh]

then ye you just vanish subt gar on cd

with vend up

[hollow escarp]

I played venthyr on lords because I was too lazy to swap, was not fun

[carmine dawn]

save vanish for vend?

seems like a waste

[vestal wren]

i played subtlety on lords

was not fun

[slow marsh]

seems like a waste to save a 80% empowered garrote inside vend + shiv? idk about that

[hollow escarp]

still better than venthyr assa with subterfuge on anduin, I only noticed after my first vanish and I was wondering why I don't generate more cps

[carmine dawn]

ill gladly save vanish for vend every time if thats it

[slow marsh]

you should be hitting it inside / just before every swarm anyways

[carmine dawn]

im an outlaw brain i dont know what holding CDs is

why do you think im so bad at sub

[slow marsh]

i mean don't hold it like a full minute, that means you messed up a vend

[vestal wren]

cooldowns rly do not align well for sub

[slow marsh]

but like vend should be every minute and naturally have one for each vanish

[vestal wren]

esp. venthyr

just send kyrian and swim in dances

[carmine dawn]

kyrian in keys

i guess

[vestal wren]

as outlaw, yes

[carmine dawn]

[vestal wren]

kyrian sub might work in some keys

kyrian sin is like... not great

[carmine dawn]

i actually died on the only 2 bosses i was in on this week for reclear

^(literally me)

maybe sub isnt for me

[vestal wren]

top log auf lords

nado

[hollow escarp]

with the sub 4 set anybody can be a rank 1 parser

[vestal wren]

just need to get the right amount of procs

[hollow escarp]

yeah

[vestal wren]

200iq play venthyr

because you can highroll more

less dance uptime = more room for more dance uptime

[hollow escarp]

I'm actually playing venthyr assa on lihuvim now

it's pretty fun to get vendetta + flag each protoform

doesn't matter that 50% of the damage is wasted

[slow marsh]

i mean kinda true

[carmine dawn]

hitting like 13-14k on 2t dummies?

[hollow escarp]

but at least I'm beating fire mages with combust on those adds

[carmine dawn]

is that low

[spice spire]

Do you have 4p?

[carmine dawn]

ye

[spice spire]

Little bit

So the easy way to deal with 2t is to ST, and when the bleeds are in pandemic on the other target, quick swap, reapply, back to ST on initial target

[carmine dawn]

am i envenoming at all on 2t?

or refreshing snd manually?

[spice spire]

Just as a filler

You should always be refreshing snd with it tho

[hollow escarp]

manually refreshing snd is a pain

[slow marsh]

yeah if you ever hit snd outside of open you've done something wrong

[spice spire]

But on 2t you have time and don’t have to choose that over a bleed

[carmine dawn]

hmm

ill try the ST with an ad thing

[spice spire]

It’s a little close during vendetta, but then your choose to envenom > refreshing CT every 3s

Bleeds themself should be fine

[carmine dawn]

whats solid, 15k sustain?

on dummies

[gusty mirage]

5 million dps

[rotund oak]

u mean billion

[carmine dawn]

oxi I SWEAR TO GOD

you come in here hot like that again

i will not hesitate

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

hard to say. peopple generally dont use dummies as any form of benchmark

[gusty mirage]

He’s right

[carmine dawn]

but people hit dummies

lol

what are u guys getting

no buffs just poisons

[gusty mirage]

Don’t hit me pls

[eternal portal]

Hello, anyone has a working IQD macro? So that it doesnt do the execute?

[spice spire]

I mean 13-14k isn’t bad but yeah, as long as you’re following basic stuff, you should be able to reach 15 since iirc you’re kind of juiced. I’m also assuming like a 2 minute hit > 5-8

So I should have clarified that @carmine dawn don’t hate me 😦

[carmine dawn]

lol i am nooot juiced

lowest ilvl in my raid almost

[gusty mirage]

Just do a /target yourcharactername before /use 13/14 (depending which slot it’s in)

[carmine dawn]

so unlucky on drops this tier

[gusty mirage]

That way it’ll always target you and avoid executing

[carmine dawn]

i think im just gonna farm SD and upgrade a dagger

no skolex in 3 weeks, no lihuvim this week

[gusty mirage]

You should farm some ego while you’re at it

[carmine dawn]

im going crazy

[gusty mirage]

Imma need you to be juiced emotionally

[carmine dawn]

so tru

[eternal portal]

thanks, testing it now

[spice spire]

You should farm some bitches

[slow marsh]

ZAMN

[gusty mirage]

I forget the last part you can throw in so it targets your last target

I think it’s /targetlasttarget ?

[gusty mirage]

Maybe you should give me advice

[spice spire]

Just stream and become an e-boy

[eternal portal]

#showtooltip
/target XXXX
/use 13
/targetlasttarget

[spice spire]

That’s how I did it ig

[eternal portal]

it worked

[gusty mirage]

I’ve always wanted to settle in life and you’re the poster child for settling @spice spire

[spice spire]

You meant to @ Val there

She settled hard

[gray fjord]

[gusty mirage]

Yeah one sec lemme tag her in your discord

[spice spire]

AMEN

I’m waiting

[normal mist]

About st 2/4, do we now always pick CT and just envenom to refresh snd or if all dots up?

[spice spire]

Yes

[normal mist]

Damn it. Also we just mfd if venthyr in ST fights right? Otherwise DS

[carmine dawn]

ye

usually always MFD for venthyr cause flag stacks

for assa

[spice spire]

Yeah royal

And correct, jake.
Plus mfd resets and whatnot

[carmine dawn]

[normal mist]

My brain still can't cope with prioritizing CT in st over env

[gusty mirage]

I thought I told you to go farm some ego

[spice spire]

Well if you ever did keys you always did when talented

The only main difference now is that shiv windows don’t matter

You CT always

As a dot

[normal mist]

Yeah pretty much it

[carmine dawn]

heroic pugs???

i was thinking about that

my nerves fuck me up on sub

[gusty mirage]

Just remember everything revolves around symbols

Gl hf

[timid cloud]

Just like the good ‘ol NYA days.

Envenom literally hits like a noodle.

[gusty mirage]

So does CT

[timid cloud]

CT in ST is always the most cursed shit.

[real solar]

@gusty mirage

do you have a WA for garrote/rupture updated with 4set?

[timid cloud]

That reminds me, I gotta do that too.

[spice spire]

If you run afenar’s set you can make these adjustments

[gusty mirage]

I do not, I just kind of wing it tbh

[drowsy parcel]

petition to rename envenom to snd-extender

[timid cloud]

Afenar needs to update it since I always have the manually fix the flag one.

[spice spire]

Granted

[gusty mirage]

You can’t even grant 4pc

Get outta here with your broke ass

[spice spire]

Wdym

I have 4p homie

[gusty mirage]

Dollar tree 4pc

[spice spire]

True

[timid cloud]

Cause the flag is still not tracking right, & I think BTE is also broken on it. But then again, who is playing Outlul?

[normal mist]

I also have 4 piece. Head, pants and 2 pairs of gloves

[gusty mirage]

Wdym 10% buff to blade flurry

[normal mist]

:)))

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Rogue WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
https://wago.io/weakauras/classes/rogue (Wago Rogue)

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Oh I thought lux was also on here

[timid cloud]

Bewitchery of the Yeast-Knives

[gusty mirage]

Nah that’s been gone

[spice spire]

Was going to if it had been updated

[gusty mirage]

For a while now tbh

[spice spire]

Shows how often I pay attention to that command

[gusty mirage]

Or your rotation

[spice spire]

Amen

[gusty mirage]

Just stink it up in mythic with me

[spice spire]

I don’t like directing while playing

[gusty mirage]

I’ve been straight green and gray parsing like a champ

[carmine dawn]

alright im getting there. sticking between 14-16

[spice spire]

I just want to sit there in silence and blast

[carmine dawn]

necrosin is fun ngl

[gusty mirage]

It truly is

[spice spire]

So i can blast my 3 buttons right

[ebon notch]

didnt work for me

[gusty mirage]

And playing with deathspike just makes you sad because it could’ve been so much better

[ebon notch]

i even added cevs condition

nothing changed

pissing me off

[gusty mirage]

The game is conspiring against you

[spice spire]

I had to duplicate and add a sound

For it to work for me

But I’m a smooth brain

[gusty mirage]

Ion has a dartboard with your face on it daps

[spice spire]

So I’m positive I fucked it up

But if they get within the halved pandemic rate, I get yelled at

By different sounds

In vendetta it gets WICKED

[carmine dawn]

@balmy condor i actually like sub more but i just get fucked by the fight timers

[gusty mirage]

I hate who you’ve become

[carmine dawn]

like i prefer assa, i really do

[spice spire]

You and me both, buddy.

[carmine dawn]

like on lihuvim i was always dancing before motes like an idiot

[gusty mirage]

There there Jake it’s okay

The important thing is you learn and improve

[carmine dawn]

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-miss-hugs-gif-5415807

[carmine dawn]

honestly

fuck it im playing assa next week

i said that this week and caved but im sticking to it !

[gusty mirage]

Duality of man

[gray fjord]

The burst is pretty wild, ngl

[gusty mirage]

Idk if I’ll play sin outside of pantheon and lords tbh

[misty holly]

I know that the shiv nature damage boosts Sepsis, does that include the set bonus extra damage too?

+25% and +40%?

or does the 40% replace the 25%?

[thorn fjord]

Roll the Bones reworked. Roll the Bones is now Rogudle

outlaws the play now boiz

[hardy dagger]

Sub Kinda slaps on patnheon p3 but with the changes to the fight it might ju be better to play assa

[night atlas]

I'm looking at the top logs for heroic halondrus, and I'm surprised to see that they all use marked for death + crimson tempest. Can someone explain to me why? I thought marked for death is for when there are adds that can die to get resets, and that poison bomb is better than CT for single target

[carmine dawn]

MFD pulls ahead for a variety of reasons

[spice spire]

Venthyr uses mfd to get max flag stacks

And CT ST with 4p

Mfd has been a thing since 9.1 tho

[carmine dawn]

also checkout the pin for the ST build, thats probably what you're wondering

[night atlas]

I see that now... I never knew that. As a lowly sin rogue with no tier pieces, I'll just go poison bomb

thank you

[viscid spear]

But not CT until 4pc?

[spice spire]

Not CT ST until 4p.
It’s whatever sims better, but at 4p CT should

[autumn frost]

During shic st, crimson prio or envenom. With 2pc

[carmine dawn]

envenom to keep SND up

[autumn frost]

Ah just answered.

[spice spire]

Maintain CT at all times now

Shiv windows be damned

Thanks to 2p

[autumn frost]

Lol

[pure moth]

Ive never hated ct more haha jk

[autumn frost]

Is ct better then pb in st now?

[loud light]

See the top pin

[hollow river]

[autumn frost]

Thanks. Just read the pin. Glad i never leveled night fae.

[vestal wren]

NF might be a bit nicer to play tho

and still is fairly strong in output

[hollow river]

Easier to play fosho

[brazen zodiac]

night bae

[vestal wren]

night fae also has soulshape

[brazen zodiac]

yes

become a beautiful camel 🐫

[slow marsh]

if only you could be a penguin in combat

[hollow escarp]

for me CT sims better in ST for night fae

it's slightly better

[ripe gulch]

finally i sim higher as assa than sub on st

[hollow escarp]

do you have assa conduits on sub?

[ripe gulch]

no ?XD

why would i have assa conduits on kyrian lol

[hollow escarp]

hard to believe assa simming higher

[ripe gulch]

700 dps

no joke

oh wait

i had premed and shuriken storm

will still be higher probs

[nocturne geode]

does DS always feel so slow to play outside vend? sorry i removed at first bc i thought i posted in wrong channel then i relized what day it was today

[ripe gulch]

no way weapon master is a 700 dps increase

[hollow escarp]

yeah, but we have vendetta up every minute anyway

[nocturne geode]

yea i just noticed it was rough getting dots going before hand bc of energy

ty for the info tho

[ripe gulch]

im simming kinda low tho

for 4p double lego

kinda sad

shit trinkets is what i blame

[hollow escarp]

14.5k assa and 14.8k sub here

[ripe gulch]

you have mythic sylv dagger probably

and 278 phial

[hollow escarp]

272 phial

but yeah

[ripe gulch]

yeeah

[hollow escarp]

I don't even use sylv dagger on assa

[ripe gulch]

cant get a phial to save my life

i simm 13.7k only

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uumHbzLqpeu1FTq1nY7wLr

[hollow escarp]

ohh, you really do need a trinket

[ripe gulch]

[hollow escarp]

must be sad playing a single trinket

[ripe gulch]

xd

i fucking hate doing necrotic

because of the shit trinket that always drops for me

ok for pure st sub sims like 20 dps higher literally

[gusty mirage]

were you simming as kyrian sub or venthyr sub

[balmy condor]

Necro sub for the cleave

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

[umbral rapids]

my god that hurt me

[limber lion]

Brian thinks it's a beautiful day to slay some bitches.

[cerulean walrus]

Get ‘em Brian!

[ebon notch]

[spice spire]

Amen Brian, have a glorious day brethren

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/crew-fierce-wigs-blue-steel-the-look-gif-16484860

[hollow river]

[viscid spear]

[limber lion]

You too, weird catperson.

[frosty cedar]

yall obedience ever just like not work

[limber lion]

Unity can sometimes bug out. Brian recommends you to just reload your game and it should work.

If reloading doesn't work, follow Brian's second advice, which is to close the game and reopen it.

[frosty cedar]

thanks brian

I reequipped unity and it worked

[oak sky]

Brians the goat cant tell me different

[ebon notch]

on god brian a legend

[peak bobcat]

📠

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beasley-jim-halpert-gif-14583824

[timid cloud]

Brian is very helpful.

[viscid spear]

Brian helped me with my taxes.

[limber lion]

Keep it coming.

[ashen scroll]

For m+ would you try to get 2-3 ruptures out before you vendetta/shiv?

[visual hemlock]

robber in liquidation 😂

[limber lion]

Nah, just gar x4 ct and send it

[ashen scroll]

ok pog

[spice spire]

Brian literally saved my cat from a tree

[oak sky]

Brian picked me up out of the grass and made me a flamingo

[ebon notch]

Brian gave me depression and then cured it on god

[brazen zodiac]

it's April fools i can't believe anything today

[ebon notch]

yeah but you know who you're talking to

[limber lion]

Watch your tongue, young lady.

[slow marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/king-brian-guess-who-rowan-atkinson-shaking-crown-gif-16416535

[hollow river]

Jake from State Farm is the true goat

[ebon notch]

take that back

[kindred heron]

haha wouldn't it be a great april fools joke if Brian "leaked" his logs and made them public haha

wow that would be so funny he should do it

[glass tulip]

Missed 4 set again this week, gg go next

[split grail]

So with Sepsis it let's me use a stealth ability on my target(assuming it expires). Should I specifically use one or just keep going with my rotation