assassination

[native heron]

Thank you!

[gusty mirage]

Both are fine if you know what you’re looking at and how to utilize the info

[strange python]

for lords of dread assa must be best spec right? 2 target cleave

[gusty mirage]

Like they gave you a dece idea what trinkets to go after for example

[unborn needle]

Blindside is currently simming 2.5% higher than Elaborate Planning for me on Raidbots. Is that correct or maybe an artifact of early sim math?

[limber lion]

It's possible, 2.5% however is quite a bit.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to sims if you're very low geared

Just copy whatever the top dogs are doing

[rotund oak]

Is there any exsang tech possible?

like in bfa

[limber lion]

Not really

That's what the 4p is for

[rotund oak]

im thinking constantly if zoldycks can work with exsang

dunno why,im getting obsessed

2 days now

[slow marsh]

CT sims +30 over PB for now

[thorn fjord]

Y'all think we'll be able to install wow on the steam deck?

[uneven summit]

do we have the rotation with 2 set somewhere

[thorn fjord]

I think you just make sure your bleeds and poisons are up for > 9 seconds when shiving

[gusty mirage]

2pc doesn't change the rotation

same ol' same ol'

[slow marsh]

press shiv even harder

[uneven summit]

shiving my guts out

[slow marsh]

2p makes theotar better by a lot though

[fading wigeon]

I bound shiv on four different key binds that I will press at the same time with 2p

[subtle tundra]

in 19 mists depleto hmmm

[thorn fjord]

Make em SHIVer

[hollow river]

What

[slow marsh]

I guess the only notable change with 2p is that you should sim CT in ST

[gusty mirage]

GAMER

[thorn fjord]

Make a WA so that everything you press shiv that Ed s
Sheeran song plays

Everytime*

[fading wigeon]

They don't call me rogueyrogue for nothing

[gusty mirage]

[thorn fjord]

I put alot of thought into that joke

[pure moth]

It was a good try

[thorn fjord]

Miss every shot you don't take

A cheap shot 😉

Ayooo

[pure moth]

On a roll today lol

[thorn fjord]

I've got a 7 month old. My dad jokes are still building strength

[kindred rapids]

crit mastery for zoldyck?

[sinful citrus]

Sim it

[vestal wren]

crit haste usually

[kindred rapids]

stat values will change drastically over the next few weeks

[sinful citrus]

If we have 2p do we still not CT during Shiv and vendetta windows

[kindred rapids]

I'd like to avoid recrafting

This is the point of asking for ppls opinions

obviously sims are a useful datapoint as well

but saying to sim is a useless comment

[sinful citrus]

Not really because the crit haste suggestion that you got was from Sims

[kindred rapids]

crit mastery sims higher on 4 targets for me currently

[balmy condor]

stat weights will also change drastically after you craft it regardless of what you do

because stat weights

[kindred rapids]

yep

I could see crit haste being better for vigilant guardian and crit mastery being better for pantheon

[slow marsh]

i mean crit mastery are our best aoe stats since you should be overflowing in energy so makes sense

that why my zold is crit mastery not haste

but either way it's pretty minor

[kindred rapids]

crit haste is only 50 dps less (on 4t) and better st so I might still do that

[slow marsh]

ye my thinking was that i'm not gonna play zold in ST so may as well lean more into the aoe stats

either way nbd tho

[kindred rapids]

is it possible to force 2pc set bonus to be enabled w/o the tier gear equipped in sims?

I wonder if necro zoldyck will be good on guardian with the long execute phase

[balmy condor]

set_bonus="tier28_2pc=1"

[kindred rapids]

thx

[visual prairie]

put that in the custom apl section?

[sinful wraith]

Does anyone know what the damage of Magically Regulated Automa Core is like on max level?

[kindred rapids]

had to use advanced sections

[visual prairie]

put in header?

i clicked expert mode and put in header. didn't give an error like other sections, bu tdidn't seem to apply

[limber lion]

No

It's a footer

Header is used for encounter/sim settings, body/footer for the custom apl

[raven vapor]

what is the best legendary for us to be crafting at this point?

[visual prairie]

i honestly can't tell if it worked. feral 2pc is so bad

ok, ran quick sim, and it worked. 2 min berserk. 1.8% gain applied to my current gear

sorry. i'll go back to feral discord to cry

[timid cloud]

[mystic flower]

what do i want from that xymox trinket as a assa rogue? bleed or tempo

[balmy condor]

axe always

[mystic flower]

ty

[balmy condor]

if you're wanting to optimize, you would get obedience and zoldyck today, then get duskwalker on ring to prep for 4 piece. If you get unity before 4 piece, you craft a dashing first until tier. You get unity from the quest, then recraft it on wrist

[visual prairie]

i got lost about halfway through that

[raven vapor]

Is obedience going to be useful going forward in m+ for sub or is it going to be obsolete in a few weeks?

[balmy condor]

I mean any covenant legendary is completely useless in 2 weeks when unity comes out

so

[raven vapor]

good point

[subtle tundra]

18 sd, this trinket isnt good

its op

[balmy condor]

I didn't even mention which to destroy to get the currency back

[visual prairie]

please don't, i already know how dumb i am

[raven vapor]

so in reality unless i'm pushing mythic this week (which i'm not) it works out better to just wait a couple weeks and craft Duskwalker on ring?

[balmy condor]

yeah

you wouldn't do anything until unity

and then once unity comes, you would use that with whatever you have, dashing preferably

once you get 4piece, you swap dashing for dusk

[raven vapor]

got it thanks

[copper sundial]

You wait for the bleed option over wand every time?

[subtle tundra]

yes

wand does 0

its not an option

[hollow river]

Wand is poggest

My immersion

[craggy nimbus]

I'm sticking with Doomblade on my cloak until I get 4 piece. I healed last raid and didn't go dashing snowman on my rogue so never made that legendary. Now everything seems like a waste of money until I get 4 piece. Bought and farmed mats for Dusk tho so that's done and waiting.

[balmy condor]

Legendary Upgrades:
Unless you're swimming in money, don't craft any 291 legendary until you get either Unity, or the 4 piece bonus. If you're trying to pump mythic and early prog with millions in the bank, craft whatever you want, this isn't for you.

Unity releases in 2 weeks. Keep it on BELT at first, then recraft the 291 on WRIST to avoid tier slot conflicts.

With 4 piece, craft Duskwalker on RING. Without it, use Dashing on BACK.

For pantheon, and probably guardian, use Zoldyck on FEET

[rotund oak]

❤️

[kindred rapids]

doomblade necro is legit until double legos

[rotund oak]

doubt

obedience for another 2 weeks and we good to go with cringefae,most likely

[strange python]

obedience sims a lot worse for me than doomblade and im venth >_>

[kind talon]

yeah but its so sad how it works for outlaw

cause flurry cant fucking CRIT bro

legit sub sin only trinket outlaw needs to play the halondrus one

[rotund oak]

alot worse?

hmm

can u link the sim,if its not trouble

[strange python]

its like 300 dps or a bit more i think

[rotund oak]

300 dps sounds way too much

[subtle tundra]

once again, outlul gets cucked

[strange python]

ill check again

oh my obed is a lower ilvl by a bit

that probably

doesnt hlep

[kind talon]

:D

[rotund oak]

my obedience is 148dps higher than doomblade,262 both,both on back both crit haste

[kind talon]

not cucked if u get a

uh

id

idk

halondrus trinket*

[strange python]

simming rl quick

[rotund oak]

it can happen,dont say its imposssible btw,its jsut that

[strange python]

im at 10k flat with dashing, checking obed

[rotund oak]

normally obedience should win doomblade and dashing

(not even my words btw,its cev's)

[spice spire]

there have been situations where dashing wins

[strange python]

yeah my obed sims 9,853 to Dashing's 10k

but my obed is 235

[spice spire]

but it's fewer and farther in between than people think

[strange python]

is that just a purely ilvl decrease ig? >_>

[rotund oak]

dont think so

[spice spire]

27 on cloak?

shouldn't be

[rotund oak]

150dps from a back

dont think so

[strange python]

yeah

me neither

[spice spire]

can you post the top gear?

maybe we can help sleuth

or maybe you're just a gamer

[strange python]

ill try top gear

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pgNP3pRozYwnUGusdkBpaT

[timid cloud]

20ish agi shouldn’t be that much a diffy on the sims.

[strange python]

dashing wins

[rotund oak]

its because fo the 2p i think

it magnifies the gap

[strange python]

yeah thats what i was thinking

more poison crit

dam

[rotund oak]

i think whispyrs spreadsheet was highlighting this

but there is prolly a catch

in order dashing to work that good

means u need uptime

downtime heavily tolls the set up

[strange python]

I always got uptime 😈

fml if i have to move off the boss xd

i actually just hate obedience so this is good

[rotund oak]

obedience is huge,i dont like it either

[strange python]

cd timings opportunities

hurt my little brain

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

im in sub prison for raid now m+ too

when will it end

WHEN

WILL IT STOP

[spice spire]

@strange python https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/peaMCeZN7fLWFT12qFkB1A

[kind talon]

(blocked user - 4 messages)

[spice spire]

real

[kind talon]

only said it cause sapzilla is here

[spice spire]

oh

now that's toxic mister dekaichinpo-illidan

[strange python]

Wait how u do that xD let me check

[kind talon]

no im blocked by him

@spice spire

[spice spire]

damn

[strange python]

Mfd?

[spice spire]

it's been mfd forever, lol

[kind talon]

that was a lot bigger than i meant to

[hollow river]

[strange python]

oh i know i just didnt expect it

mfd stresses me out a little sometimes lol

[gusty mirage]

venthyr = mfd prison

[strange python]

ill try it out

[spice spire]

obedience is still -16

so I digress

[kind talon]

:loge

[spice spire]

but yeah

[kind talon]

[spice spire]

you're chuckling

[kind talon]

wtf loge

[kind talon]

obedience is -900 for night fae

[rotund oak]

why mfd is prison?I dont get it 😛

[kind talon]

please explain 😛

[gusty mirage]

because mfd for sin is stinky

[kind talon]

you dont like MFD on st!>!>!>?

with 0 cdr and 0 resets?

i love it so much bro

[gusty mirage]

it loves you too

[rotund oak]

eh idk,mfd giefs 5cp rupture or CT instantly

or envenom for flag window

[kind talon]

i hope it is sarcastic cause i was

[rotund oak]

free stacks

[gusty mirage]

mfd loves anyone who plays it

[spice spire]

MFD HATES THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK (roll necrolord)

[fallen arch]

Oof idk how to rogue anymore

[gusty mirage]

oxi hates this simple one trick (makeitquake)

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

damn

[rotund oak]

i wanna try necro,zoldycks

sometime

[spice spire]

pantheon

[rotund oak]

need to test it to get it out fo ym system

maybe ye

and lords

2Target cleave

[gusty mirage]

necro, pantheon, zold

[rotund oak]

like u shiv the bleeds

sht melts

[mint valve]

When we get double Lego and 4p will it still be necro for pantheon?

[strange python]

Mfd for dread?

[balmy condor]

mfd for everything

[regal river]

!trinkets

[slow marsh]

you don't want to see my sims

[spice spire]

you're right

[strange python]

this is sick for assa isnt it

pls tell me i didnt just beg my healer to trade it

[balmy condor]

its okay

[drowsy parcel]

its k

you gotta collect the things

very annoying

[strange python]

3 minute cooldown ooh

how do i play around this

line it with shiv i guess ?

[limber lion]

Finally got my first Pantheon kill

[strange python]

i hate that boss

[limber lion]

wtf

it's so much fun

[brazen zodiac]

its so fun but they nerf'd it pretty hard

especially on normal lol

but thats normal so meh

[regal river]

what is the name of the trinket website list`? Not the bloodmallet one ^^

[limber lion]

Herodamage?

[limber lion]

Literally the best fight in the instance, so creamy for assa rogue

[regal river]

yep, thx!

[brazen zodiac]

yeah i really like it

but shit my nameplates are awful for it

[slow marsh]

dashing -247 for me to obed

[fleet anchor]

I would say you don't really have to collect them for it to be good. The additional impacts only do 20% of the total damage of the trinket

If you collect half of them, it's "only" a 10% damage loss on the trinket (around 0.35%-0.4% total damage) which still puts it ahead of a lot of trinkets quite easily

[drowsy parcel]

really its not more?

i havent played with it that much, i only got it an hour or so ago

but the extra collect things crit 10k, feels significant

[fleet anchor]

There are 3 extra impacts and they hit for 60% of the damage of normal ticks

There are 7 normal ticks

Sims are correct for this, I tested and implemented this myself the other day

I added an option if you want to sim fewer pickups

shadowlands.earthbreakers_impact_weak_points=2

for example

[visual prairie]

are they easy to see?

i heard they were not

[fleet anchor]

Depends on the fight

Some of the cluttered fights in heroic it's hard to see although you can kinda just adadad around and hit at least 2 blindly tbh

Gets a little easier to see once you get used to what you're looking for though

[strange python]

feel that

[winter vapor]

Subt necro opener?

Garrote Garrote, BS, SnD?

for Pantheon**

[glass tulip]

garrote garrote snd spike spike

Is what I copied off of agreon

And then you use the CP from the 2 bonespikes for a rupture

Blow all other cds, rupture the other target

[subtle tundra]

gar snd gar?

[winter vapor]

I ended up holind before first wave of ends

vend*

[brazen zodiac]

lol

proud owner of a LFR leg piece POG

[pearl ingot]

with 2 set it is shiv into sepsis, correct?

[limber lion]

ye'

[pearl ingot]

ty cev

[limber lion]

np

[obtuse robin]

2p done

[brazen zodiac]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3VWs1MdYSRz21STMGjqu7A

meh

i thought id be more

ubut it is lfr

so

[limber lion]

try dashing

[oak sky]

Now is when i realize i need to recraft zoldyck on boots

[viscid spear]

Shh, no tears. Only gold sinks now.

[unkempt zinc]

Hey, don't mean to beat a dead horse but wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything. Doomblade is simming massively higher for me than Obedience and Dashing. Like +180 dps. Am I missing something or just dumb?

[bleak sky]

idk

link sim

[clever kindle]

if it makes you feel better last week I bought a legendary blank to craft zoldycks, completely forgot what slot it was and bought a cloak

So I upgraded doomblade instead

[oak sky]

Lmao

[clever kindle]

mid raid

[void karma]

any input on making 291 Obedience on back?

[unkempt zinc]

Nevermind. It was in fact that I am dumb. I had simmed with Vigor which I guess is just giving me more mutilates lol. with mfd they're pretty much equal. Thanks tho!

[copper sundial]

Pins

[brazen zodiac]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u7vZZwK3bTwDEkn4bzNykZ

still the same hm

maybe necro

[brave gazelle]

Nay point untill we can make double legos imo? As the cov one will just replace obedience

[obtuse robin]

having that 2pc u got for me is a 600 dps increase , were u expecting more?

[versed mica]

Asking bc I can't find it anywhere how much of a dps increase is 2pc in dungeonslice?

[obtuse robin]

you can sim if u want

[drifting cloud]

@limber lion purely hypothetical before I run 5 sims, I have 2pc (helm/gloves), I hate playing obedience but need to roll up with a 291 lego to raid(dont care about recafting costs and all that) do I just send necro/venth with either db shoulders, dashing feet or is there another option im missing thats very obvious

[versed mica]

...why didn't I think of this

[limber lion]

I would honestly probably just do Doomblade on Necro and just slam Necro everywhere

[drifting cloud]

yeah that was my initial idea but wasnt sure if its inting on a boss or two

probably not atleast this week

[hollow river]

It’s not really inting until double leggo

[solar stump]

are you going NF when you get 4 set? or waiting for double leggo as well?

[peak bobcat]

The only 2 bosses where necro feels bad is Skolex and Halondrus

[limber lion]

Waiting for double lego first

[limber lion]

With 4p Necro actually pulls ahead in single target

[drifting cloud]

yeah were not there yet 😄

[limber lion]

Yeh just saying that it's not inting necessarily especially when the mythic bosses are so mega overtuned

won't be much use optimizing for Halondrus if you can't even kill the first boss

[drifting cloud]

I know how to optimize halondrus, it starts by pressing default bind N

[alpine radish]

278 bloodoath signet with socket

Trash choices this week :(

Long term nice ring though

[subtle tundra]

i'd be over the moon to get that

what are you on

bis finger with socket?

[open lion]

anyone have that map location of the schematic inside ther raid?

[pure moth]

Drop down to the left of first boss. Its on the chain by a frog

Its like a set of 3 chains 2 small 1 big in middle

[gentle osprey]

Hey guys just wondering which leggo is best for venthyr atm, currently got duskwalkers loop

[limber lion]

Duskwalkers is one of the worst legendaries without 4p

Obedience is a good pick

[gentle osprey]

cheers man, thought it felt a bit shit cant lie

what about doomblade is that anygood?

[fading wigeon]

Doomblade is good if you are not venthyr

[gentle osprey]

thanks guys!

[arctic venture]

For raid should I use shadowcore?

or sharped?

[carmine token]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[carmine token]

some people use one of each, some use two sharpens, its minor diff in dmg

[gusty mirage]

Stones always with agi pot

[arctic venture]

tks

[gusty mirage]

[carmine token]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

Bruh,ive completed the weekly question for a heroic cache

and there was a ''The first sigil'' inside

[fleet anchor]

Nice gz 😄

[rotund oak]

tyty ❤️

had the normal version but i guess blizzard wants to give me the heroic version so ill take it

the game says ''play assassination u d@ckhead''

its 30% damage inc

raw as a beef steak

[arctic venture]

hehe

I got it, normal.

[versed mica]

Got a normal one in vault, but I wanted a max level chest piece with speed on it to turn into tier later

[trail mica]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[arctic venture]

venthyr, raid. Theotar its sim better?

[bleak sky]

probably

you can just sim it

[viscid spear]

Tea?

[versed mica]

Yeah just Sim it, for me personally with obed nadija Sims better

They close, it varies based on gear

Could argue that Theo is worse on high movement fights bc of parasol buff

[formal sorrel]

WHat happened to the pinned messages that showed which cov was best for 2-set 1 leggo ect?

[slow marsh]

Theo is +200 after 2p for me

so

[versed mica]

I am a tierless gamer

[balmy condor]

all that info is in the FAQ

[slow marsh]

Oh well true I guess I am in the minority.

Feelsweird I never have this kind of rng

[versed mica]

I got one heroic sylv dagger 4 weeks before new patch so

I am not favored

[carmine token]

new FAQ very useful, thanks Whispyr!

[balmy condor]

np

[plush delta]

sorry if i missed this in the faq, but even for AOE i.e. Mythic+ are we still taking duskwalkers once we have 4p ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[plush delta]

ty whispyr

[raven vapor]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[upbeat needle]

do you hold cache for axe or use on CD?

[bleak sky]

"For the Cache, use Axe. Axe is close in single target, which makes it an easy recommendation overall, but loses to sword in lust "

[balmy condor]

Axe

[versed mica]

I've seen wand do stupid amounts of damage in LFR fights. Is it good for anything?

[raven vapor]

With the earthbreakers trinket is it a dps loss or gain to move out of melee range to pop the weak points?

[upbeat needle]

what's the line to sim for halondrus again?

[balmy condor]

auto_attacks_always_land

It really doesn’t change anything though

[raven vapor]

@balmy condor any idea on the above?

[solid mica]

we got marileth or heirmir for pantheon?

go*

[spice spire]

marileth triple potency seems juice

[oak sky]

heirmir simmed higher for me in 2t and 3t last I checked

[spice spire]

yeah but what simmed better 4t?

[oak sky]

oh i meant 2t and 4t

sorry

[bleak sky]

|| dn ||

[oak sky]

|| what's dn? ||

[bleak sky]

|| ||

[pearl ingot]

Does 2 set also buff ct ?

[spice spire]

yes

or it should

[upbeat needle]

cache and amp is like

giga troll man

double on use zzzzzzz

[rapid forum]

i was just about to ask it since i got cache today out of the box

is double on use useable or just simbait?

[oak sky]

its not simbait really it just feels awful to play

[rapid forum]

how we gonna use it? use chache on pull and amplifier 20s after?

[balmy condor]

Gain

[slow marsh]

giga god you mean

I'm using fcm and cache

stonks

[upbeat needle]

idk what to use first lmao

[slow marsh]

what does sim use

for me its fcm

[upbeat needle]

amp for me

[cobalt pelican]

just uses top slot first unless there's specific logic for them built in

[brazen zodiac]

yha

yeah

[cerulean nest]

sin seems the play on dreadlords huh?

doesnt feel good on sub so far

[oak sky]

definitely looks like sin or maybe outlaw

[brazen zodiac]

@oak sky

yo for panth did u put ur rupture up on both targets before vendetta and shivving on pull?

[oak sky]

yeah but low key that might not be the play

[brazen zodiac]

you thinl?

[oak sky]

if you lose a cast of vendetta its not better i think

actually

its definitely the play

as long as vendetta is up the start of p3

yeah

put up dots before vendetta in p1 p2

[slow marsh]

anyone with that PK tech on lords yet?

[balmy condor]

Are there that many adds?

It just looked like 2 target to me

But I was only half watching

[slow marsh]

when they're in carrion swarm they take 100% extra damage from aoe spells

So I spammed fok just to see what it'd be like

but didn't use PK

[balmy condor]

What’s the uptime on that swarm like

[slow marsh]

it's like 20s each time

[strange python]

lords take 100% damage from aoe.... no spamming CT right lmao

sounds troll

[lone junco]

how bad is this? Seems like I have all the parts prior to the vanish.

Obedience cloak with MA.

[zinc frost]

Mut > snd > mut > garrote > flag > rupture > vend then shiv into vanish

Basically the biggest issues is rupture instead of snd and not hitting flag with high CP

[slow marsh]

also you want to use mfd for vend, shiv, vanish, mut, envenom, mfd, envenom

[hollow river]

If they take that much increased aoe outlaw may actually be the play lol

Didn’t know about that

[slow marsh]

I can't filter damage taken during swarm rn on mobile so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see

[steel ridge]

Yes baby

[mortal pike]

Anyone with 2 set see how big of an up it was for them yet?

[timid cloud]

I think when you get 4P it might be the play to wait to vendetta until you got the bleeds up in that phase.

[hexed frost]

Will my human rights be discontinued if i run NL Doomblade in dread council and pantheon fights?

[timid cloud]

It might be the play for those fights anyways.

[hexed frost]

[timid cloud]

Cause NF on 4 targets seems too much for that kinda fight.

Lord knows having 5 bones in the last phase will definitely help with Bonespikey leggo.

[hexed frost]

One step closer to fulfilling NL supremacy

[slow marsh]

Nf only gonna really be ran in a couple fights imo

[spice spire]

Necrolord enjoyers aren’t human

Sorry king

[slow marsh]

NL too good when it comes to adds

[spice spire]

Banished

[timid cloud]

Yeah. Quake says Kyrian Supremacy.

[hexed frost]

They are not furries either

[timid cloud]

I already got my soulshapes ready.

[spice spire]

You shut your damn mouth or I s2g I will roll the hardest line of NF propaganda you’ve ever seen @timid cloud

[timid cloud]

Do it.

MAKE ME HATE MYSELF MORE

[spice spire]

[slow marsh]

Korayn ultimate anduin pad

[spice spire]

Real

Why go Necrolord for adds when you have first strike??????

[slow marsh]

And his first thing

The above 75% hp

Since remnant always spawns with 100%

[spice spire]

What ice “night fae main confirmed” blades said

[slow marsh]

Maybe if obed wasn't dumb

NL and NF practical uses are just so much better

[timid cloud]

I think we go NADJIA on that fight for Gigga seeker

[spice spire]

[timid cloud]

Idk if Koryan is the strat there.

[slow marsh]

Na

DW too good

[timid cloud]

I mean you could debate doing like…

[slow marsh]

Dspike too good

Kevin too good

[timid cloud]

Koryan 4 piece slamming CT & getting a lot of pad from it I guess.

[slow marsh]

Miss me with the 1min 10s flags

Korayn would just pump the remnant is all I'm saying

Kinda same with lihuvium

It's not even about the pad as much as the actual prio dam with target swaps

[night summit]

is cache of acquired goods trinket any good? it sims a +10 dps upgrade just not sure if it sims bad

[spice spire]

It’s good

[slow marsh]

It's likely gonna be top 3 trinket

The axe does mega damage and the sword gives nutty haste and could possibly be gamed to be even better with 4p

[night summit]

so sims dont account for 2 or 4 piece currently?

[slow marsh]

Yeah they do

[lean fossil]

when we getting trinket sims or is that still broken?

[balmy condor]

Trinkets are still kinda borked

But there’s a little sim towards the bottom

[lean fossil]

ahh thanks for the update

[slow marsh]

Cache feels really nice I hope it stays

[balmy condor]

Bloodmallet/herodamage also updated

[timid cloud]

Once again?

Let us take a looksie.

Playing sigil & cache…

Sounds…not fun.

3m & 5m.

[zinc frost]

Double on use

[timid cloud]

Imagine you wipe & you used both. Best part? They don’t fucking reset.

[oak sky]

sigil got fixed

[timid cloud]

[subtle tundra]

i would just like cache to give me weapon buff insta when it come off cd tbh

[spice spire]

Yeah sigil fixed

[timid cloud]

Yeah that too.

[zinc frost]

Yes, so annoying..

[subtle tundra]

sometimes i have to wait omega time to be able to use it even when available

[timid cloud]

It comes off CD Then you gotta wait for like 10 seconds+

[subtle tundra]

wait 10 seconds to get wand :/

[spice spire]

Any wand enjoyers in chat?

[subtle tundra]

then gotta wait 24 more seconds

[balmy condor]

So did cache

[timid cloud]

I would rather pass away.

[balmy condor]

All of them got fixed

[timid cloud]

The resetting?

[spice spire]

Should go NF for seed then Homie

[timid cloud]

I played it in raid a few hours ago & it still didn’t come off CD.

[obtuse robin]

lords of dread is a fun fight

or am i bugging

[timid cloud]

I see what you did there.

BUGGING

[subtle tundra]

i wouldnt know lords of dread, my guild cant even spread on anduin

[balmy condor]

🐛

[obtuse robin]

this is easier then anduin

dreads is

on normal

[subtle tundra]

man a warrior from my guild dropped legs tier piece 3 times

[timid cloud]

🪰

[subtle tundra]

and then dropped hands tier piece aswell

dropped 4 tier pieces

[obtuse robin]

good he sharing the wealth

unless?

[subtle tundra]

he did

he good boy

[timid cloud]

No, he’s keeping for mog.

[subtle tundra]

but i still need my 2nd tier piece 😦

[timid cloud]

[subtle tundra]

havent dropped one yet

[balmy condor]

I’m getting 2 set tomorrow swear to god

[timid cloud]

[obtuse robin]

i got one piece today

[subtle tundra]

i actually got mad last night since hc anduin is so easy now

[balmy condor]

Dread, rygleon, then heroic anduin

[timid cloud]

We gotta do Normal now…

[subtle tundra]

and we kept wiping on it

[balmy condor]

Easy 4 set

It’s happening

[obtuse robin]

back to back to back

ez

[zinc frost]

[timid cloud]

We wasted an entire night on…Halondrus…

[balmy condor]

The threepeat

Yung rng goat

[timid cloud]

Based Set God.

[subtle tundra]

it would be nice to have bad luck protection on tier set

[timid cloud]

[balmy condor]

7 more weeks

[timid cloud]

I’ll be dead by then.

[drifting cloud]

good news its only 6 weeks

[timid cloud]

Imagine not having tier by then…

[balmy condor]

Hey, I’m 1/4 in 2 weeks, I’m on curve!

[subtle tundra]

im scared of mythic prog not gonna lie, considering at liquid had 17 4pc on worm guy. we barely have like 5 2pc

[timid cloud]

WE ON CURVE

ONE PIECE A WEEK

HOPEFULLY NO REPEATS

[balmy condor]

1 upgrade a week

The way god intended

[subtle tundra]

i just want to blast m+ :(((

with 2pc

dps to the moon

but no loot :((

[timid cloud]

1 upgrade a week. The tier is MINIMUM 32 weeks.

16 slots.

You do the math.

[spice spire]

0 tier

[timid cloud]

🧮

[zinc frost]

Same

[spice spire]

Wanted to bitch about no tier in vault but I saw some awful luck and I at least got a 278 weapon

[slow marsh]

I wish it were that easy

[timid cloud]

Yeah. Legit? we could be worse off.

[slow marsh]

Could have dom shards

[timid cloud]

Praying for all of my homies success.

[subtle tundra]

its fine we kill normal and hc anduin, lords and rygolon(or whatever his name is) tonight, surely 6 chances is enough to drop it

[obtuse robin]

surely

[timid cloud]

I think we might do all of N to Jailer then leave & do H Anduin.

[subtle tundra]

h anduin is so easy

[slow marsh]

Imagine doing jailer normal

[subtle tundra]

literally need so much less dps

compared to last week

[timid cloud]

I couldn’t.

[slow marsh]

Guilds have tho is the weird part

[timid cloud]

Yeah, they only took this add out until farm begins. Then they buff it all back up.

[subtle tundra]

only problem with hc anduin is that if 1 person fucks up 1 mechanic its a wipe

[timid cloud]

Well, they just want the Normal loot.

[slow marsh]

I mean I guess but like the normal loot isn't even anything to write home about

[glass tulip]

how are your guys tiers coming

im 0/13 on looting it

[subtle tundra]

1 traded ;o

(yea, im cool like that, i get traded)

[slow marsh]

I have 2p with heroic anduin + Lord's+ rygleon left

[timid cloud]

Oh worm?

Wait, so there’s 3 agi daggers, right?

[slow marsh]

Ye

[timid cloud]

I’m not trippin’?

[slow marsh]

Lithium worm and ryg

Right?

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

Yes

[timid cloud]

I know there’s a sub one & a sin one

[slow marsh]

Ye doubled checked

All 3 are good for sin

Crit haste, crit vers, vers haste ilvl

[timid cloud]

I just remembered them because of the stats they gave.

[subtle tundra]

i dropped mists dagger but idk if i should upgrade

[timid cloud]

I didn’t remember the rygelon one.

[subtle tundra]

idk what to upgrade honestly

[timid cloud]

I got a NW.

[slow marsh]

Mists is worth upgrading at the end of week I guess

[blissful forge]

Yo i question which lego do i craft for assa on pantheon and lords of dreads? Got 2p on head and leg

[timid cloud]

I’m not gonna upgrade it unless I keep getting unlucky.

[slow marsh]

Or after box open next week

[blissful forge]

*1

[timid cloud]

I might just do a phial or bank for the TW ring.

[subtle tundra]

there's too much tier pieces, 2 legendary slots, cant put sockets on anything :/

[slow marsh]

Zold

[subtle tundra]

i dont want to farm phial 😦

[slow marsh]

Me either but I'm gonna have to

[blissful forge]

Lords aswell? 😀

[timid cloud]

I think I saw some peeps running Doomblade.

Idk though.

[slow marsh]

Zold works for lords

[subtle tundra]

ill play necro doomblade on lords tonight

[blissful forge]

Aight, ty. Where do i craft it then? Cause head and legs are 2p

[slow marsh]

Feet

[timid cloud]

Feet.

[blissful forge]

Gotchu

Tyvm

[timid cloud]

& back if you do Doomblade.

[slow marsh]

Zold seems better on Lords idk

[timid cloud]

Cause I think the other Doomblade spot is uhhh, Hands or something.

[slow marsh]

If you bleed one add up it hard wins over doom iirc

[timid cloud]

The only downside is that it’s worthless for the other 70% of the HP for prog.

[slow marsh]

I mean yeah but

Lord's prog isn't hard

[bleak sky]

drop 262 arachnid cipher

[timid cloud]

The execution is what matters.

[bleak sky]

playing sub

[slow marsh]

You see each phase then it's a kill

[timid cloud]

Yeah, that’s fair enough.

I gotta grind some torghast to make new booties.

[slow marsh]

It's not like there's checks mid fight n stuff

I made mine today after much debate

[timid cloud]

Idk what I’m gonna make 291, since we’re not making sales right now & I only got about 2m leftish.

[slow marsh]

Ye I have 400k I'm hard chillin until dusk

[timid cloud]

Prices will keep dropping though so I guess I can hold out with what I have.

[slow marsh]

If dusk wasn't the overall winner in all content I'd make something else

[timid cloud]

Yeah.

[slow marsh]

For now 262 zold it is

[bleak sky]

lords of dread is a sin fight 100% yeah?

[slow marsh]

Kinda

[alpine radish]

Baited 😂

[slow marsh]

Outlaw can cheese the bug phases I think

But it's an easy sin fight for you

[glass tulip]

normal final 3 were snoozers

[hollow river]

We were gonna do final 3 normal tn

But our lockout got fucked up somehow

We killed anduin normal yesterday but he and 1st boss were back up in the instance

[limber swallow]

uhm.. this was 2 target dummies... is the cache of acquired treasures really this strong?

no cooldowns, just fan of knives, ct and rupture on the dummies.. and then the trinket used

[glass tulip]

same, we had to reclear lihuvim and halondrus

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[hollow river]

Ouch

We’re gonna try it tomorrow

[glass tulip]

we got Handy down and the finished normal

[hollow river]

If someone clears the lockout before raid time

We didn’t get Handy down

We got him to like 30-40%

We got through the main damage amp phase towards the end of the night

It’s a decent fight

[subtle tundra]

yes

[subtle tundra]

. look

[limber swallow]

[thin trout]

anyone have 4 set yet

so we can be jealous

[rugged meadow]

hello noob assass here, should i be using ambush?

[iron orchid]

iirc ambush becomes useful now, and better with more ilvl

so i guess you should

[oak sky]

ambush is good outside MA window

so like when you play subterfuge you use ambush

[normal mist]

It feels so much better (for me) to raid as necro than venthyr

[alpine radish]

Necro is just alot more fun imo

[solid venture]

necro overlords

[unborn fable]

[jade minnow]

Until u are nf

[solid venture]

[timid cloud]

[edgy plinth]

So, I think I am missing something. I am just coming back to rogue after awhile and both the pin and the wowhead guide say to use Duskwalker's and that Doomblade isn't all that great but most of the assassination single target logs currently use Doomblade

Is it worth crafting or will it fall off with tier?

[zinc frost]

Dusk worth crafting with 4pc and double leggo

[oak sky]

just with 4pc

[edgy plinth]

So Doomblade isn't worth it past that point?

[oak sky]

yeah

[edgy plinth]

Okay, thank you.

[rancid nimbus]

I am running necro zoldyk in keys atm. When do i switch to other leggo ?! Once I have 2 and 4p and double leggo? Or is it worth switching to doom or dusk already?

[timid cloud]

You don’t play doom in keys.

Dusk will be when you get 4P

[rancid nimbus]

Okay. So i can stay with zoldyk until then? Just thinking about upgrading. It will be some time before i get 4p

[timid cloud]

Yes, but it also depends on what you need / want. Overall or Priority damage.

[zinc frost]

Only other good leggo for keys is obedience but you’ll get Unity soon

[timid cloud]

Yeah. If you wanna save gold, I’d say just stick with Zold & wait until Unity comes out.

[rancid nimbus]

Thy

So. If Unity comes. You would go venthyr? With zoldyk. And then switch from zoldyk to dusk once i get 4p? Correct? xD

[oak sky]

in keys yeah

in raid it would be doomblade/dashing instead of zoldyck

[lean coral]

Isn't it duskwalkers for raid? With double leggo and tier

[hollow dirge]

deathspike/zoldyck in high fortified worth it? Must be fun af

That vanish triple garrote with shiv 2 set and zoldyck past 30%, must feel great

[scenic marlin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[alpine radish]

We pray for 2 set 🤣

[jovial spear]

Is there a WA for cache usage?

[grim hornet]

yep there is, look for it on wago, cant from office now ^^'

[jovial spear]

https://wago.io/iZWGfz4vI

found it, ty!

[hollow river]

And for keys, yes

[strange python]

1 piece till 4 piece bb 😈

[blissful forge]

heyo im not an assa main but i want to play assa on pantheon, can some1 tell me how to sim for pantheon?

or do i just sim normal patchwerk 5min on 1 target?

[thorn fjord]

They fixed The first Sigil

Ayo

[rapid forum]

I would guess 4 target boss

[thorn fjord]

4 target boss with the mod to start the SIM with all bosses at 50%

dont remember the string off the top of my head

[limber lion]

Meaning it resets on wipes or?

[limber lion]

4 bosses 3min execute sim is probably good enough

But you really don't need to sim for it. Just play Necro with Zoldyck and that's it :')

[blissful forge]

alrighty, ty for the answer

[frosty cedar]

Sigil fixed for wipes but not countermeasure sadge

[thorn fjord]

Yep

[blissful forge]

i assume soulbind is perso pref right? cause marileth and bonesmith are used in top logs

[limber lion]

That's because it's not over 2 minutes.

[limber lion]

Heirmir is just better

[thorn fjord]

Atleast i'll be more inclined to run Sigil that it resets

[limber lion]

Merileth is better with add waves and when you get resets. You won't be getting many of those on Pantheon

I did 14k dps on the boss without any tier pieces, so you can trust my word

[blissful forge]

alrighty

men i hope i dont suck xD, last time i played assa was back in bfa lukw

*lulw

do i spam CT when all the 4 bosses are there or do i just refresh?

[hollow river]

Is it really so difficult for them to make every CD in the game reset on wipes etc?

[hollow river]

Just refresh

We basically never “spam” CT

[limber lion]

That's just to prevent cheese

We've had some awful cheesing in the past with cds, that's why it works like that

[hollow river]

Yeah I figured it’s just

[strange python]

hey guys whats opener in dungeons AoE with 2p necro assa? when shoild i use shiv?

[hollow river]

The amount of times I’ve pulled a boss with Amp on CD is

[limber lion]

Use it on cd after you've used all sbs

So something like:

Gar - gar - gar - gar - ct - sbs - sbs - rup - sbs - rup - shiv

[strange python]

okaay, can i switch ct with rupture or its better to have ct asap?

[hollow river]

Your player btw

Tre magnifique 👌

[solid venture]

dont wanna be that guy but im gonna be that guy

its très

[limber lion]

Always prioritize CT

CT is our highest damage dealing ability in AoE

With those 4 garrotes you already have more than enough energy running

[strange python]

cool, thanks 🙂

[normal mist]

Does anyone know when will we be able to craft tier pieces and how?

[alpine radish]

Be like another 3 weeks

[gusty mirage]

Creation catalyst, opens up week 8 and has an initial cd of 1 week per piece

[alpine radish]

I think

What are we week 3 now? Yikes

[gusty mirage]

[normal mist]

Is it known what materials we need or we just get there are press CRAFT?

[alpine radish]

Another month and a week then woooo

[gusty mirage]

You just need a base item and flux

[alpine radish]

By base not the white item 😂

[gusty mirage]

So I’d keep m+ loot

Just in case your luck is kaka

[alpine radish]

If i dont have 4/5 pieces by then id cry i think

😂 😂

Sick to death of venthyr

[gusty mirage]

I’ve already prepared my tears

Kill first 7 in heroic twice, loot a cloak first week and two trinkets in second week

Xymox trinket’s kinda cool though so I’m not too upset about it

[alpine radish]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-amazed-explosion-space-omg-gif-10279314

[spice spire]

4 piece next week, trust papi

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

You and I are the same

[gusty mirage]

Im about to run lfr for a chance at 2pc

I’m down bad

[spice spire]

0 tier, watching absolute apes loot it

[timid cloud]

I already did.

[spice spire]

I’m doing it later

[limber lion]

We did LFR as a guild

:')

[gusty mirage]

We’ll suffer together

[timid cloud]

We tried to get the guild to do it all the monks & warriors / rogues

[limber lion]

Mandatory overtime LFR

[spice spire]

BRO WE CAN LFR FUNNEL EACH OFHER

[gusty mirage]

We’re pulling anduin until it dies

[timid cloud]

But the servers were too shit so we did it on our own time.

[spice spire]

Hol up

[timid cloud]

Okay real shit though.

[spice spire]

Colour OT?

[alpine radish]

Least you get those determination buffs for giga dmg

[timid cloud]

Which one of the homies is getting the 4 set?

Cause your boy only has 1.

[spice spire]

@oak sky is the chosen one

[timid cloud]

How many did my mans get?

[gusty mirage]

Maybe we can Captain Planet it, with our powers combined we have one 4pc

[timid cloud]

LOL

[alpine radish]

What ilvl is rf?

239 ?

[timid cloud]

239

[spice spire]

So far he’s a 2 piece gamer

[alpine radish]

[timid cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/don-cheadle-captain-planet-gifearthdayachance-earth-day-gif-5319912

[alpine radish]

Havent even got one piece

My time will come

[timid cloud]

[gusty mirage]

I said the same thing, then I looted elegy and xymox trinket

[hollow river]

At least you have the option

[timid cloud]

Do I get it off Normal today?! The world may never know.

[limber lion]

I killed my first Pantheon yesterday and I got to say

It's my favorite boss

[timid cloud]

With the guild?

[spice spire]

But he’s gotten them from the free bosses.
Halondrus + lihuvim

[limber lion]

Yessir

[hollow river]

I got 275 legs from vault so I’m at the mercy of regular raid drops

[gusty mirage]

I filled out 9 of those fucking boxes last week I would’ve been tilted off the face of the earth if I didn’t get at least 1

[limber lion]

14k dps, beating all the loser tier-havers doing 13k

[timid cloud]

It’s fun, I just hate it when the raid lags to 1 FPS

Or if we get that enrage…

[spice spire]

This is why you can’t have tier

[limber lion]

6 hours of practice coming in clutch

[alpine radish]

Just gonna spam 15s and pray i get tier from weekly and vault

[timid cloud]

I want to pass away.

LOL

[gusty mirage]

True

[limber lion]

yo rude

[spice spire]

You’re too powerful without it

With it

[timid cloud]

That pug training put Cev in the hyperbolic time chamber.

[limber lion]

I'm also a private log andy

[spice spire]

Unstoppable

[limber lion]

so it's fine

[alpine radish]

You are at the mercy of the gods

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

So’s you doing 1.5k dps more than me on pantheon

[hollow river]

WTB coaching @limber lion

[limber lion]

best boss in the raid

[hollow river]

Agreed

[limber lion]

assassination cream fest

[hollow river]

I like Halondrus

But pantheon is giga fun

[spice spire]

I actually like quite a few bosses

I think it’s a well designed raid for the most part

[limber lion]

I like them all, except Vigilant Guardian tbh

I was wrong

[sterile chasm]

Hey i cant find best in slot legendaries can You help me? 🙂

[alpine radish]

Good raid just slightly 'slightly'overtuned at launch

[limber lion]

I thought Vigilant Guardian was fun, but it's only fun in pugs that do 0 dps

[hollow river]

Same this is a good raid

[limber lion]

because then you get to hit the mobs

[timid cloud]

I like the noises he makes. Reminds me of Reapers from Mass Effect, & he makes the ground shake. So it makes the immersion 10/10.

[limber lion]

with a guild it's just awful

[spice spire]

They are in the pins, good sir.

Yes man

0 dps gaming

[sterile chasm]

So I am blind

[timid cloud]

#assassination-faq

[hollow river]

This raid is 1000x better than sanctum so far

[spice spire]

No worries

[timid cloud]

Like the boss is huge & then the ground shakes with all of his abilities.

[spice spire]

Mythic vigilant at least looks very hard

[timid cloud]

Actually cool.

Can’t do that Warrior spell reflect one shot to that Rollie Pollie first boss.

[spice spire]

Oh yeah halondrus is a sick fight.

[spice spire]

They fixed it

Tried last night on quakewar

[timid cloud]

You gaslit me into thinking I typo’d.

[spice spire]

[woeful cradle]

anyone advise me about stat for mythic plus

[spice spire]

Gonna gaslight you into more, buddy.

[timid cloud]

[gusty mirage]

crit > haste >= mastery > vers

[spice spire]

I had a novel being typed for that question

[limber lion]

stop looking at stats

[spice spire]

But yeah

[limber lion]

[timid cloud]

Cev is about to FREAK

Don’t say the banned word.

[woeful cradle]

ty oxi

[limber lion]

"I do only 6k overall. guys is my stats bad pls???"

[gusty mirage]

Look at Cev’s rugged handsome looks instead

[limber lion]

yes maybe with 13 more haste you would do 13k dps

[timid cloud]

||Stats||

[hollow river]

But Assassination scales really well compared to the other specs

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

That

is a Whispyr trigger

you ain't getting me with it

[hollow river]

[limber lion]

[timid cloud]

[hollow river]

[timid cloud]

What even did I miss?

[spice spire]

?

[gusty mirage]

Whispyr loves scaling

[timid cloud]

was that in reference to like Exsanguinate build in BFA?

[hollow river]

Whispyr doesn’t like scaling

[timid cloud]

LATE GAME CLASS

[spice spire]

It’s apparently a common trope that people say “x spec scales”

When in fact, all specs scale

[timid cloud]

Yeah. Like Fire Mage!

[hollow river]

He’s mad sub doesn’t scale well

[spice spire]

[timid cloud]

LOL

[gusty mirage]

Speaking of scaling why do marks hunters do obscene damage all of a sudden?

[timid cloud]

[hollow river]

@gusty mirage I wish I knew

[timid cloud]

They always did.

[hollow river]

Probably abusing bugs

[timid cloud]

Just ST they blow.

[spice spire]

The two things that will trigger people here.
Whíspyr - scaling
Cev - Stat priorities

[gusty mirage]

No shot bro

[timid cloud]

On god.

[gusty mirage]

Not this kinda damage

[timid cloud]

Urh helps a lot too.

[gusty mirage]

Hm

[spice spire]

Yeah urh drops their CDs to nothing

[timid cloud]

They have 1m CD’s

[gusty mirage]

Wtf