assassination

[bleak sky]

no I just want to bully you

[hollow escarp]

I could craft some 200 gear with it to test but don't wanna burn mats

[cold rampart]

do we use flag on cd or wait for vendetta ?

[misty holly]

Anyone have their full set yet?

[limber lion]

not a single person in the world

[oak sky]

Cant get full set until vault next week if ur giga lucky

[slow marsh]

@bleak sky where you at

[bleak sky]

sheeeeesh

haven't started doing keys on roguge

about to do the first one but seems like a scuffed 15

[limber lion]

na

[mortal pike]

Anyone going to run some crunchy nercro on some of these big add cleave fights?

[oak sky]

yes

[median silo]

What slot y'all taking 262 crafted in?

[brazen zodiac]

i took ring

[mortal pike]

sameee

[cold rampart]

where can i find the best recent rotation ?

[glass tulip]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[glass tulip]

there^

[cold rampart]

which one do u recommend out of these 3?

[bleak sky]

any versa enjoyers

[brazen zodiac]

XD

[hollow escarp]

I have 9% vers in sub gear

[bleak sky]

how kojack

[hollow escarp]

my gear is cursed

54% crit with tea

[bleak sky]

holy

[trail locust]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[glass tulip]

they are all written by people in this discord so I would assume they are identical / very similar in what they say

really its a take your pick

I personally prefer wowhead / method

[cold rampart]

are they all updated for this patch?

[cold rampart]

sheesh

[hollow escarp]

the method guide is last updated on 14th february but nothing has changed since then

[fading wigeon]

lol

[marble hemlock]

Whispyr hates Necro, so I'm sure hes gaslightning an entire covenant.

[brazen zodiac]

xd

[hollow escarp]

[oak sky]

dude im so close to pushing sin to a 10k sim

[hollow escarp]

add more stats to some items

[oak sky]

dude

no

[bleak sky]

just add haste tea

ez clap

[oak sky]

i did

now im trying crit tea

[hollow escarp]

try PI

[oak sky]

so

I need for my belt to have a socket

which i cant get

[marble hemlock]

try sub

[spice spire]

!bos

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Defensives usability: http://tiny.cc/q602uz

[oak sky]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9CJKN88NDZ44Ah4Ld5VftK

if my sylv belt had a socket

[glass tulip]

you can do it pal

[oak sky]

its a 10k sim

[hollow escarp]

well

slap eternal skirmish

instead of stats

[oak sky]

oh right

gg

[hollow escarp]

that should be 9 dps

also don't you have fusion amp?

[glass tulip]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2ASFLoqX7bZhv5eeKyfe2W

[hollow escarp]

for me that sims more than 252 phial

[oak sky]

fuck that

lol

[glass tulip]

yeah fcm/sfa is highest for me as well

[oak sky]

someone had money for head obedience

[glass tulip]

I get head, later virgins

[hollow escarp]

I don't remember when I crafted a 262 deathspike lol

[glass tulip]

ready for prototype pantheon

[misty holly]

You forget the lucky timewalking quest reward. Someone could have it!

[glass tulip]

tier doesnt come out of those

so no

[hollow escarp]

idk if that can drop tier piece

[misty holly]

dang

[hollow escarp]

since it's a token, not actual item

[arctic venture]

seens outlaw is not going well on dps right?

[plush garnet]

What property did you guys go with on 262 crafted

the harmonize agi one?

[hollow escarp]

yep

[plush garnet]

Is that a pick up thing? or it a buff proc

[glass tulip]

262 ring was a big dps loss for me

rip

[median silo]

99.7% SnD uptime. Unplayable

x.D

[bleak sky]

no outlaw is dead rip

[brazen zodiac]

:c

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j2FSxRT294VPwEVFut4mEE

damn you guys barely hitting 10k?

[glass tulip]

sub sim

[balmy condor]

sorry I'm playing a good spec

keep optimizing for 25 dps when you're doing 900 bozo clownshoes

[obsidian zinc]

not having the sylv dagger pad my dmg doesnt help

[balmy condor]

[glass tulip]

I think my sub was about 10725

[median silo]

Using shadowcore oil on mainhand an dnothing on offhand?

[balmy condor]

who?

[glass tulip]

sharpening stones on both

[balmy condor]

tell them to stop using oil

[median silo]

Ur sim

I hit sim again and its set to shadowcore on mh nothing OH

[balmy condor]

my sim is double stone

[balmy condor]

those settings are client based

[median silo]

Rude website. false information

[glass tulip]

those are your settings kek

[balmy condor]

mines set to the default

which is double stone

[median silo]

oh right I was simming boomkin. Makes sense. Ignore me

[balmy condor]

literally default everything

[median silo]

I haven't slept in many moons

[glass tulip]

b mkin

[balmy condor]

bro you're barely batting over 10k

silence

[glass tulip]

DONT MAKE ME SUB SIM

[balmy condor]

I won't

cause you refuse to play optimally

[glass tulip]

now im gonna

bitch

and I'll play it in raid

since I know you are gonna log watch XD

[balmy condor]

this is why you failed trial, definitely not because omni randomly ghosted you and then didn't need melee and you found another guild

it's this thing

that happened months into the future

[glass tulip]

my brain is being fucked rn

[oak sky]

log watchers

[bleak sky]

pathetic sim

[median silo]

I got trolled today hella hard. I google interrogator's vicious dirk like I have been for days and saw there was 1 comment. But it was just someone asking if anyone found it yet 😭

[bleak sky]

pitiful damage

[timid cloud]

Hmm…

[red plaza]

[glass tulip]

watch out lig if you use it before it gets nerfed theyll flag your logs

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vP3t4gjXDaHYCTTTH9Es7f

[proven moth]

Is the Court Ring and Vault trink still worth farm?

[marble hemlock]

at least he will actually be in on the bosses while you get to enjoy the brightass kyrian sanctum from the bench

[glass tulip]

@balmy condor lost to a 2nd 259 dagger i sleep

[timid cloud]

Flashbanged…

https://tenor.com/view/neil-degrasse-tyson-gif-4965817

[balmy condor]

Yes

[foggy temple]

is it possible to sim theo's tea?

[balmy condor]

Thinking I’m getting benched in wr1000 guild

[balmy condor]

shadowlands.party_favor_type=

Would force a stat

[marble hemlock]

Yes.

[balmy condor]

It sims with 25% on each buff with no custom line

[marble hemlock]

It's gonna be a resounding "Yes", actually. Pun intended.

[foggy temple]

just at the end of my simc input?

[balmy condor]

In the custom apl

[clever crow]

is there a chance that that effect is worth dropping item levels on a ring for? since we can only wear 1x 262 crafted piece but as many 233ilvl crafted pieces as we want to add that effect to it

im guessing no

but making sure

[balmy condor]

No

[foggy temple]

can you do the 3% value?

[clever crow]

oh wrong channel my bad

[balmy condor]

Wdym

[balmy condor]

No it’s right channel

It’s just not worth

[foggy temple]

nvm i read your 25 mesg wrong, thank you

[clever crow]

ty

[balmy condor]

The thing has about 25% uptime

Basically less valuable than a gem socket

[brazen zodiac]

sup whisp

[novel arrow]

Are we still Master assassin this week without 2 set?

[limber lion]

Yes

The talent

[timid cloud]

Yo, so does the ring proc work in raid btw?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[glass tulip]

yes but with tiny uptime

[potent dagger]

@limber lion reasure me you stay assa no ? :x

[glass tulip]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/YMV4FJAVE_Hm7NUnIgRaYBJ9NbkMWenBqh8VGixia1c/https/i.imgur.com/rmhHXIm.png?width=475&height=702

[timid cloud]

):

[balmy condor]

TWO

Someone’s not picking up their orbs

[glass tulip]

okay maybe he just sucks

[balmy condor]

It’s 15 seconds 1ppm

[novel arrow]

Thoughts on Going NEcro and Necro lego for first boss?

[balmy condor]

Should be 15-20% uptime if you’re looking for orbs and maybe missing one or two

[novel arrow]

What you think whispyr?

[hollow escarp]

the only difficult part is last phase which is pure st

[balmy condor]

Sure but it’s still mostly single target second phase

Also it’s first boss

So

[novel arrow]

😛

[balmy condor]

Do whatever

[novel arrow]

Btw Whispyr

I watched Max's video. I had no idea you were a guy

[timid cloud]

...

[novel arrow]

I legit honestly didn't know

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s common

[hollow escarp]

she is used to it

[timid cloud]

[balmy condor]

A lot of people open my stream and are instantly disappointed when they see my face and it isn’t an anime girl

Really unlucky

[hollow escarp]

[balmy condor]

[bleak sky]

you were ready to simp huh

[novel arrow]

His icon is a girl, His nickname doesn't scream lumberjack. I just thought he was a girl

[bleak sky]

tell us the truth

[glass tulip]

pretty true, I thought he was a girl for a long time too

[novel arrow]

Rofl

[balmy condor]

I’ll be whatever you want me to be babe I’ll put on the cat ears I promise

[novel arrow]

I support Whispyr either way. He's great 😛

always answers my stupid questions

[balmy condor]

[novel arrow]

Opposite from hunter discord. Where asking questions is basically committing a sin.

[bleak sky]

you gotta be an exalted patreon to ask questions

[balmy condor]

Hunter sim paywall

[novel arrow]

They have a questions thread where the common responses is go read the guide

[bleak sky]

I mean it's the same here right

[hollow escarp]

tbf, most basic stuff can be found in guides

[bleak sky]

"check the pins
read the guide
check the pins
please for god's fucking sake read the pins"

[balmy condor]

Yes but we do it funnier

[bleak sky]

yea funny cuz you a clown

[balmy condor]

Because I’ll roast your ass for 5 minutes

[bleak sky]

gottem xd roasted

[limber lion]

I will, yes

[timid cloud]

Not a Doomblade tier...

Feelsbadman

[hollow escarp]

well

[timid cloud]

[potent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tears-of-joy-sad-happy-gif-16815107

My hero

[timid cloud]

That's how I feel when I see the Sin FAQ is updated.

[limber lion]

Doomblade is a trash ass boring ass stupid ass legendary anyways

doesn't do anything

[ripe gulch]

where is the good trinkets list

[limber lion]

not sure why you would want to play that

[limber lion]

raidbots.com/droptimizer

[balmy condor]

^

[glass tulip]

legion

[balmy condor]

But also lmao thinking trinkets are tuned on raid release

[timid cloud]

BECAUSE

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

[timid cloud]

Another bleed.

[novel arrow]

oh shit Faq is updated

.<

❤️

[timid cloud]

No bulli pls Cev...

[bleak sky]

this Bells of Endless Feast seems pretty good man I'll tell you that

it might be slightly overtuned though

maybe a trinket doing 15% of your overall damage isn't healthy

[limber lion]

who'da thunk

:O

[hollow escarp]

I'd be happy to loot a trinket that does 15% of my damage

[timid cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/285BBD6B8KZ6uRHwMRGLR7

[slow marsh]

This affix is stupid

[timid cloud]

I haven't simmed Kyrian Sub or Venthyr Sin yet, that's the first one I got back when I simmed it.

[worn badger]

has any one simmed the 262 eng goggles with any of the optional ZM regents to see which one might be good for heroic ?

[balmy condor]

The effects are really tiny

[worn badger]

oh my first whispyr reply, i feel special. thanks 🙂

[balmy condor]

Goggles are decent tho

High ilvl always good

[worn badger]

yeah i only have 239 helm atm so making a set is why i was curious.

[balmy condor]

You are now cursed to receive your helm tier first or second

So you’re forced to unequip the goggles in order to use it

[worn badger]

probably true lol been eng since vanilla and it always works out that way

[balmy condor]

Consider this the spell that curses you

[worn badger]

considering how much my wife likes spaghetti and ramen that might make her happier

[balmy condor]

[timid cloud]

I see that & raise you this...

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/887/811/5f9

[worn badger]

thanks for all you do for the community again though, been rogue since friend and family alpha and you and others through the years have always helped me a ton since i dont have the brain for number crafting

[timid cloud]

Also if I gotta play NL, do I do Hermir or Merelith?

[limber lion]

[limber lion]

Merelith

[timid cloud]

in 2 targets*

[limber lion]

Welp

Less questions

More sims

[timid cloud]

[limber lion]

I wonder which is better

Nadja or Theotar

[timid cloud]

[limber lion]

In 7 target heavy movement hecticaddcleave no lust no potions only execute sim

[balmy condor]

:) love to help

[limber lion]

Pls halp guise

[timid cloud]

[jolly comet]

this is kind of not elite but is there a go to slot for the leather crafted piece?

[obtuse robin]

291 next week right?

[jolly comet]

i mean the 262 piece

[hollow river]

The 262s? Or?

Ring or neck is good

Or if you have more ilvl piece

Replacing your lowest spot prob best

[jolly comet]

k cool thanks!

[hollow river]

Np

[slow marsh]

2 target no adds heirmer, 3+ is marileth and doom/zold depending on pad or not

I simmed it all out yesterday for me, might be different for you

[bleak sky]

that's cheating

[timid cloud]

You should see the Kyrian sim.

Also it didn't sim properly for sin? Didn't beat my FCM / 252 Salvaged???

Idk gonna re-run it.

[bleak sky]

cheater cheater

[slow marsh]

Hacks for shre

It's ok I got 3 socketed pieces out of 5 runs

[glass tulip]

If I had a 2nd mythic sylv daggie I could get verrrrry close to 11k

Without bells either

[oak sky]

oh yeah dude necro already going deepr

blessed

[bleak sky]

I can't get to 11k and I'm madge

big madge

[tulip kernel]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[timid cloud]

I got a BOE off the first trash pack.

LETS GO

[zinc frost]

[slow marsh]

Cydone with the goated rng

[glass tulip]

Inb4 he doesn't get more loot until creation catalyst opens

[timid cloud]

I'll not get a single piece of tier.

LOL

[somber hill]

i remember there used to be a macro channel in this disc, looking for a good mouseover MFD macro that if no mouseover just MFDs ur current target

[dapper yew]

do we add Crit and Haste Missive for Venthyr: Obedience

[viscid spear]

If you're planning on being Sin, yes

[dapper yew]

and Haste /Vers for NightFae?

[viscid spear]

Raid time, lessgo

[glass tulip]

go ash go

[limber lion]

Crit haste is fine

[limber lion]

#outlaw had one of those

Maybe in the faq

[viscid spear]

Quake and I ripping it up

[glass tulip]

[viscid spear]

Meowing in raid

[limber lion]

What does that even mean

[viscid spear]

You type Meow

[somber hill]

found this for SBS /cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Serrated Bone Spike, so i applied it to MFD i think same logic works #showtooltip Marked for Death
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] marked for death

[ember mural]

already overtiming smh my head

[viscid spear]

Rip in piece

[solid mica]

is dashing or dusk better in ToP rn?

[echo geyser]

[solid mica]

like subjectively obi

obvi

[echo geyser]

dusk is garbage unless u have tier

u should play obedience if ur venthyr

[solid mica]

gotta be the necro boi

[echo geyser]

no clue then

[alpine latch]

CT on first boss?

[echo geyser]

zoldycks/doomblade

idk

go outlaw

[glass tulip]

stuff dies so fast I probs wouldnt

the small adds get whacked by by warriors and hunters

feels like soulrender heroic in a boost, its a race to pad

[brazen zodiac]

yeah its a meme

xd

[alpine latch]

You guys have warriors?

or hunters?

[bleak sky]

yes

[slow marsh]

that moment when the resto sham gets the skolex trink D=

[glass tulip]

[upbeat needle]

pantheon fuckin aids

[hollow river]

what

pantheon as sin specifically is fun as fuck

just need a good strat i think

[upbeat needle]

No I just meant the fight

lol

sin is baller on this fight

[junior rampart]

New affix feels shit

Not exciting at all.

[slow marsh]

tru

[upbeat needle]

DOGSHIT

[limber lion]

Always got both sides of the coin

The hypers and the haters

[balmy condor]

zold slaps

necro zold on pantheon

actual goat

rough boss though

[glass tulip]

love dying inside the circle on first boss

jesus christ

[oak sky]

dude

[viscid spear]

[oak sky]

that first boss btw

i literally

flagged into 2 damage reduced adds

because i didnt know how it worked

rank 3

dogshit boss btw

[drifting cloud]

[glass tulip]

having a ton of fun

[oak sky]

dude

that boss is actually so bad

[glass tulip]

I was literally inside the circle and was just getting blasted lol

underneath the group and they were like yeah obviously you were outside wdym

[oak sky]

just an awful boss

lmmao

[glass tulip]

8 minutes im never getting back lol

[spare flame]

anyone fuck with assa on prototype?

[balmy condor]

yep

the healing is so rough though

[gusty mirage]

xymox is a treat

[balmy condor]

we're stuck on pantheon

[gusty mirage]

we went guardian -> skol -> xym

so

[balmy condor]

ah

yeh we went dasussy

[gusty mirage]

and I want to cry

I wish you'd dasussy me

[slow marsh]

same

[gusty mirage]

and why is the trash harder than the bosses

wtf is this shit

[slow marsh]

I feel like people are speccing for padding on the adds so we keep wiping around 18%

like 10 pulls

[restive falcon]

CT is putting in work on Prototype fight

[timid cloud]

Same, I did NL Zold & it felt good, but everyone is getting FPS problems.

I know I had some.

Got like 1 FPS

[balmy condor]

been fine for me

[timid cloud]

I did Nadjia too to make my life easier, still did really good.

[restive falcon]

we r stuck on pantheon too

[limber lion]

God, can't wait to crack at it tomorrow

[mortal pike]

can unity go in any slot?

[restive falcon]

ye

[mortal pike]

oh

im dumb

[limber lion]

Sheesh

Bunch are already playing Night Fae or Duskwalkers

[viscid spear]

[limber lion]

So many Dashing Scoundrels as well

[viscid spear]

[balmy condor]

dashing big fine though

[limber lion]

Not best so it's cringe

Ez

[balmy condor]

it's like -30

[limber lion]

Only besties here

[balmy condor]

and 95% of rogues have it crafted

[zinc frost]

Dusk without double leggo and 4pc is pretty cringe

[balmy condor]

oh dusk is terrible yeah

[limber lion]

But yeh, the nf/dusk thing

Is just

Yikes

[zinc frost]

I blame the wowhead guide writer for putting it there

[limber lion]

I saw the Shiv icon in WCL

And I thought it was the Tiny Toxic Blade at first

[zinc frost]

There’s definitely some interesting combos, is it just me or are many people not doing MFD?

[limber lion]

That's true

Venthyr still benefits from MFD greatly, would highly recommend it especially with Obedience

[brazen zodiac]

hi gamers

[viscid spear]

[safe sluice]

with zero syl daggers is it better to prog with ass or sub ? feelbadman. 29 H kills without it

excluding weekly GV

[glass tulip]

whatever you are more comfortable on or want to learn

I just played first 3 bosses as sub and it makes me want to cut my hands off

[brazen zodiac]

i did the first 5 on normal and it was okish ig

i hate the first boss lol

[gusty mirage]

can you guess which fight I died on

[thorn fjord]

So whats the verdict on Bells of the endless feast

[gusty mirage]

it's probably better now

but tbh the raid trinkets are kinda underwhelming

should be nice to have more options though

[bleak sky]

bruh fuck pantheon

[gusty mirage]

I worry about that one tomorrow

[restive falcon]

i got The First Sigil

hmmmm

seems like an L

[mortal pike]

anyone working on prototype atm?

[restive falcon]

we just killed prototype

[gusty mirage]

yeah I'm not looking forward to it

[restive falcon]

pantheon is ass

[mortal pike]

what talent set up did you run on proto?

[bleak sky]

xd

[mortal pike]

so sadge I didnt have a zoldycks ready Dx

[bleak sky]

lovely fight

xd

[restive falcon]

i ran 2/3/1/2/1/2/3

[clever kindle]

I got the shoulders from uhh

skolex

shit but still an upgrade I guess

[limber lion]

Can't wait to play Prototype tomorrow 🤩🤩

[clever kindle]

on pantheon now

[restive falcon]

whispyr i got the sigil it sims higher than 252 phial but idk if its actual worth, it gives 37% vers

feel like its a bait

[slow marsh]

it sims higher

[gusty mirage]

I hope the hotfix actually makes xymox less toxic

[limber lion]

Lol

[slow marsh]

idk if its worth

wut

[limber lion]

It's literally better

So use it

[restive falcon]

i went form 7% vers to 37% vers on use

[limber lion]

It's our best trinket with 4p btw

Fyi

[clever kindle]

maybe if your giga fucking bosses and can only get 1 use but thats a straight damage boost

[limber lion]

NA beta-testing the bosses for us EU boys

Appreciate it

[clever kindle]

np lads

fighting bugs and bosses

[gusty mirage]

ngl killing heroic xymox in this raid was more satisfying than killing sylv

[restive falcon]

how is it our bis for 4piece when we go night fae? @limber lion

[clever kindle]

way easier to use as night fae anyways

[limber lion]

Wut

[clever kindle]

like actually have your shit on cooldown

[limber lion]

Whatchu on about

[restive falcon]

how is that trinket better than 252 phial

[limber lion]

Because

It does more damage

?

[clever kindle]

numbers

[limber lion]

Like what

How is one legendary better than something else

[clever kindle]

because phial got a what 25% nerf

or something

20%

[limber lion]

How is one covenant better than the other?

Numbers

[restive falcon]

yea ig just looking at the phial to the first sigil

[limber lion]

Big number good

[restive falcon]

it looks worse to use sigil

[limber lion]

??

You literally cannot look at a trinket

And know which is better in this game

Just fron looking at them

You literally can't

[clever kindle]

you get one-two gigablast cooldown periods instead of a consistent damage

[bleak sky]

you sim it

and if it sims good

you use it

[limber lion]

A trinket that gives 1500 vers sounds pretty fucking strong to me

[clever kindle]

I mean really that just doubles down on what sin does anyways

[limber lion]

A stupid trinket that procs a poison pop here and there

Super lame

[oak sky]

i hate beta testing

[dim ledge]

Why are people running dahshing > obe

on patnehon

[oak sky]

pantheon animals

[dim ledge]

when venth ?

does more on 4 target ?

[oak sky]

bro im necro zoldyck

[gusty mirage]

"A stupid trinket, that was nerfed recently, that procs a poison pop here and there"

fixed it for you

[limber lion]

They cba changing or don't have Obedience or don't care

[clever kindle]

dashing and obedience sim identically for me

1 dps difference

[limber lion]

Or Dashing sims better for them

[clever kindle]

well maybe not now with upgrades

[viscid spear]

So the Sigil trinket resets the CD on Door and casts Fleshcraft, what about the other two?
Casts Soulshape and resets owl CD?

[dim ledge]

@limber lion ty and whats 4 target prio ?

[gusty mirage]

dashing was like 32 dps behind obedience for me

[dim ledge]

just double bleed everything shif on cd

[gusty mirage]

I just had both crafted

[dim ledge]

and CT ?

or should you give up on bleeds on 4

[limber lion]

Yes

No

[dim ledge]

ok ty

[oak sky]

rupture everything gar as much as possible

[limber lion]

All bleeds on everyone

CT always up

Shiv on CD

[restive falcon]

that trinket doesnt even reset after boss

LMAO

good one iOn

[limber lion]

Ok that's pretty aids if that's right

Are you sure?

[glass tulip]

pantheon is fucking rn

[restive falcon]

man the boss after pantheon is a cake walk

yea we wiped after 45 seconds first pull and it had 3:25 left on CD

doesnt reset

[limber lion]

Yuk

[thorn fjord]

so CT on pantheon?

[limber lion]

Yes

[restive falcon]

i would use CT thats what i did

i think they will change it so it does reset

no way we got a full tier with 5min trinket that doesnt reset

i resim now and that trinket is worse lmaooo

[zinc frost]

[limber lion]

Don't use it if you hate it

It will be the best trinket with 4p though, so don't toss it

[restive falcon]

i tihnk its cool but imma have to test it myself

[brazen zodiac]

what trinket

the signal?

zzz

[restive falcon]

double on use atm is kinda cringe

[limber lion]

Yeh

Sigil + phial will be the winninf combo

[brazen zodiac]

whats poppin cev

[limber lion]

Or sigil + soleah

[brazen zodiac]

yeah i got the trinket then had to trade it fun

zzzz

have u been able to raid yet cev?

[viral locust]

Not having Winds kind of felt weird tonight lmao.

[zinc frost]

The rng was a bit annoying with some pulls, but defensives will be missed for sure

[limber lion]

Not in EU, no

[brazen zodiac]

oh right right

have fun

[hollow river]

was it just me or did the first boss suck to do damage on

the entire first part of the fight the adds get deleted in 2 seconds a pop

[spice spire]

normal is worse

our raid night is tomorrow so we did unethical farming tonight for tier pieces, and holy shit the first boss is uh. something

[oak sky]

bad is the word you're looking for

[strange python]

Is bells simming weirdly?

[clever kindle]

yep

[hollow river]

yep

[spice spire]

Yeah I gotta say in general I think boss design is pretty good.
The first boss was a massive whiff to me.
Lot of downtime just staring at nothing, waiting on adds to spawn

[rapid prism]

is Bonespike damage boosted by Zoldyk leggo?

[spice spire]

Yes

[limber lion]

BONESPIKE + 4P + VENDETTA + 2P + SHIV + ZOLDYCK + KEVIN

Sudden Fracture stonks

Invest now

[spice spire]

THINK ABOUT THE VIGILANT GUARDIAN STONKS

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

Comes out at 40%?

[rapid prism]

i was thinking more P3 on prototype too

[spice spire]

Lust at 30 and we’re chuckling

Honestly, wouldn’t be bad there.
Since it’s a very backlogged fight

I still think you go other options

Because not having a legendary for an extremely large portion of the fight is pain

[rapid prism]

top 4 assa logs are zoldyk lol

[limber lion]

BONESPIKE?
4 TARGETS?
2P?
SHIV?
ZOLDYCK?
EXECUTE?
BLOODLUST?

[rapid prism]

yea im gunna try it out tomorrow. My p3 damage was lacking as venth assa

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

Buddy you’re about to send Cev into the maximum bonezone

[rapid prism]

lol

[slow marsh]

I tried zold for one pull of xymox and went right back to obed lol

zold will be stonks for prototype and lithium and i think that's about it

[rapid prism]

yea agreed

[slow marsh]

doom is better on 2t

[limber lion]

But Doom is cringe

[slow marsh]

sure it is

[rapid prism]

all that tab targeting for mutilates. i do that enough already for ruptures lol

[limber lion]

Zoldyck is cringe as well, don't get me wrong

BUT IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES

[zinc frost]

Anytime I get to throw out some bonespikes in raid is a good time

[grizzled orbit]

How many rups are people keeping up on Prototype fight in P3? all 4? just 2?

[slow marsh]

idk i'm doing it tomorrow i'll let you know xD

I imagine it hsould be all 4 tho

[rapid prism]

i was doing all 4

[grizzled orbit]

Yeah, hard to juggle in p3, doable though. Thanks

[limber lion]

All 4

Garrote onn3

Garret

[rapid prism]

4x rupture, bonespike, poison, crimson. ZOLDYK YUMMY

[limber lion]

Garret

Garret

Crinson Tenpest

4 ruptures

[rapid prism]

3 garrotes?

[limber lion]

[mortal pike]

being assa without 2x edges feelsbad

[spice spire]

Say the line

[rapid prism]

ZOLDYK

[limber lion]

Imagine playing Necro/Zoldy WITHOUT subterfuge

What a mad lad

But you're right

It should be 4 garrets

[rapid prism]

yea true. master assasin is kinda lame when i could vanish and get those juicy subterfuge garrotes

[slow marsh]

MA is kinda lame on necro anyways

[thorn fjord]

i ran my whole night in Nadjia by mistake lmao

fucking rip

[slow marsh]

I ran in nadjia but not by miistake

[thorn fjord]

was still able to pump though but i didnt notice like at all till 30 before the en d

[mortal pike]

Do you always fok on 2?

[slow marsh]

never

fok on 3 to apply poison and then only on 4+

[mortal pike]

hm weird

saw a lot of prototype logs only foking at 2

seemed weird

[slow marsh]

yeah there's also a lot of duskwalker logs so

[mortal pike]

it wasnt

prototype is like all zolddyck haha

[slow marsh]

my best guess would be that they're sub players forgetting that fok isn't sstorm

[lean coral]

so we got it

but whats with prototype coming back to life lmfao

[glass tulip]

pantheon down holy

that was the worst

[obsidian aurora]

obediance or dashing this week?

[glass tulip]

sim it

probably obed

[bleak sky]

zoldyck

[obsidian aurora]

wow that was funny

[slow marsh]

Obedience

[zinc frost]

If only

[worn badger]

im only a heroic lvl raider. i got Scalpel from time walking chest , i feel like i just used all my luck for the patch in one day =/

[oak sky]

my raid couldnt kill pantheon

i was on a good pace too

[bleak sky]

pantheon hard

[slow marsh]

I'm hard

[bleak sky]

bro

[oak sky]

We just didnt have enough damage

[slow marsh]

[oak sky]

I had some really good pulls

I think people just died at bad times

[bleak sky]

we killed because a frost mage was necro

and his reanimated armor necro thingy killed it

[slow marsh]

Private logs make me sad rn

[upbeat needle]

Why Ice

[slow marsh]

Cuz it makes it harder to compare how I did

[upbeat needle]

That’s a fact

[slow marsh]

I have to actually look

[spice spire]

Fellas really do be log watching

Damn

[slow marsh]

Na im not gonna bother I think

Dhs and floor pov wars are getting wft so no real point to it ig

[limber lion]

We'll be privatelogging as well for heroic/mythic

[oak sky]

Sadge

[limber lion]

But our normal kills tomorrow will be public

[oak sky]

Cev just tell me every time you shit on me thats all i wanna know

[slow marsh]

[upbeat needle]

I never understood the point of private logging

[oak sky]

Ready for 11 messages

[limber lion]

Nah, I'd rather complain whenever I don't shit on someone

[oak sky]

Lmao

[limber lion]

Instead of when I do

And just blame it on externals

As per usual

[upbeat needle]

I feel like it’s no point unless you’re in RWF

[limber lion]

The Ceverion special

[oak sky]

Cant blame externals on me this tier

[slow marsh]

I was told that this guild private logs because some people care too much about parsing instead of just doing the fight

Which is cringe imo

[limber lion]

Ethical

[oak sky]

Im getting nothing

I mean farm who knows

But prog never

[upbeat needle]

Why not just

[drifting cloud]

fake day1 NA logs

[upbeat needle]

Log yourself public

[oak sky]

Dont check dasausage

[limber lion]

Yeh, people are monkeys sometimes.

[upbeat needle]

Make sure your WCL name ain’t Iceblades

[oak sky]

[slow marsh]

That's too much effort

[limber lion]

And it doesn't work like that

[slow marsh]

At least my logs won't be half public and half private like last tier tho

[limber lion]

You can't upload a public log if a guild has set their privacy settings to private

[slow marsh]

Ye they would be able to see that I made it public

[limber lion]

It will check which guild and what members are in the log

[upbeat needle]

That’s giga troll

[slow marsh]

Someone who got booted from trial did that

[upbeat needle]

LMFAOOO

Priv logging omega dumb

[limber lion]

Yeh, but there's literally a mode in WCL that doesn't allow for public logs at all

[oak sky]

I think pantheon will be a bigger problem for us than the other heroic bosses tbh

[limber lion]

If the majority of the players are from a guild that privatelogs

Stealth mode is a sneakyboy

[oak sky]

Like I think tomorrow we finish off pantheon then do like 3-4 more

[bleak sky]

Europoors can't even clear the raid, Na #1 on all logs we just built diff

[slow marsh]

Is it just because of the ravenous damage ?

[limber lion]

Yeh, I think it's a problem for many from what I've seen

Remember to flex all of your privatelogs in here

[oak sky]

Everyones dying early so we end up with the shitty lineup

[limber lion]

We can compare our e-penises in here

[slow marsh]

🍆

[slow marsh]

What are they doing to though

[bleak sky]

No, it's denathriys

His dot is DISGUSTING

[grim tangle]

colour private logging?

[slow marsh]

Yeah the Denny dot right

[oak sky]

Pretty sure its casts

[grim tangle]

but why

[limber lion]

For prog, yes

Not during farm

Just because people play worse because they want a good prog parse

[grim tangle]

I'll allow it

[slow marsh]

Denny dot is during seeds tho

[bleak sky]

Even with good kicks Donny is still doing 70k raid wide dps

[limber lion]

Or they get mega tilted from dying on a peog kill

And get a public grey parse from it

[slow marsh]

So theoretically you have to space out seed healing for the buff

[bleak sky]

Man it's barely enough

Yeah you do but

It's rough

[oak sky]

I'm not trying to fix my raid my rl is pretty good he can solve it

[slow marsh]

I guess we'll see how my healer team actually is tomorrow then xD

[bleak sky]

Ye

[upbeat needle]

Pantheon is hella slapping

[oak sky]

Just tryna complain rn

[bleak sky]

Our priest hard carried us

[oak sky]

Bitch about not getting 2 day 1 rank 1s that matter a shit ton

[slow marsh]

Me too I got a shit ton of loot today but nothing good

[oak sky]

I got nothing

[slow marsh]

I want to complain

[grim tangle]

I did 2 plaguefalls with 2 different dhs and they both got phial

[oak sky]

But we only killed 2 so i have a lot of bosses to loot still

[slow marsh]

I got vers mast shoulders that are a 20 dps upgrade or something, bought a haste crit ring with the agi buff that I can't see on the floor so I never pick it up, got a haste vers socket bracer which was kinda pog

Then socket belt and socket ring that I traded

Oh and shitty crit mast ring on 1st boss

That I couldn't trade

[bleak sky]

You just shitting sockets huh

[oak sky]

Lihuvim i think has a ton of loot on it

[bleak sky]

Lucky

[slow marsh]

Yeah 3 sockets in 5 runs

Did 5/6 idk m+ today then 4 heroic bosses

[oak sky]

Which 4

Did you get to xymox

Or do lihuvim or what

[slow marsh]

Wall Skolex xymox sausage

[oak sky]

Fuck wall bro

Wall is so horrible

[slow marsh]

Dumb boss still finished 3 or 4th dps on meters I think

[oak sky]

Most boring fight dude

[slow marsh]

Srs

[oak sky]

Half the time walking between dead adds

[slow marsh]

I just sent flag on big dudes and spread bleeds and zzzzzzzz my way to the top

[oak sky]

Dude

I literally inted 2 flags

Into dred adds

[slow marsh]

Lmao

[oak sky]

But nothing matters

It went fully unpunisjed

I even have a guaranteed 99

I predotted like a fiend

Its just a dumb fight

[slow marsh]

Yeah same I just stepped and sprinted around dotting everything

Mfd stonks

[oak sky]

Yeah

Pantheon I changed like everything for

Ep deeper subt ct necro

[slow marsh]

Mfd is big stonks on xymox too even though the timing is weord

[glass tulip]

clip it and ship it boys

[oak sky]

Great i have a number to beat

[slow marsh]

😆

[limber lion]

Okay, a tenner

Good, good.

[slow marsh]

Easy dubs tbh

[glass tulip]

go beat it and get some tier

[oak sky]

Peep my sausage

Beat that one too cevvy

[slow marsh]

I saw your sausage

[oak sky]

Eat my sausage

[limber lion]

I'ma try to force myself to sleep for 2 hours

[spice spire]

And you say others are horny here brøther?

Get some rest Cev.

I’m gonna get 3 myself

[slow marsh]

🍆 💦 🍑

[limber lion]

Heroic raid on Thursday, make me proud boys

[oak sky]

I just save it for the right time

[limber lion]

Let's see some massive numbers

[oak sky]

I raid again tomorroe

[slow marsh]

Same

[limber lion]

Good

[oak sky]

Hopefully more r1s to come

Pantheon looks free

[slow marsh]

I don't think I can get r1s yet tbh

The way we do stuff

Is jank

[oak sky]

Idk

U prob can

[slow marsh]

I mean I know I can but I'd have to try

[limber lion]

Implying that you normally wouldn't have to

[slow marsh]

Try to pad

[limber lion]

Freebies

[slow marsh]

Is what I mean.

[oak sky]

Nah

[limber lion]

Ah right

[oak sky]

U dont tho

Im a terrible padder

[limber lion]

Padding is so 2020

[glass tulip]

I played sub aon sausage

[slow marsh]

Pantheon is gonna be fun tho u right and lithium looks free imo

[limber lion]

Any Psychus padders in the chat

[slow marsh]

I smashed on sausage but only r10

We killed right when CDs were back up

[oak sky]

Rip

I got an ok timer

I think

Wait

[slow marsh]

Na most are like 430 I think

[oak sky]

I think vendetta came up near the end

[slow marsh]

Ye

Oh we also have 28 people for some reason which is troll to me

[oak sky]

Mmm

Why?

[slow marsh]

They are trialing some extra people idk why

Like meta specs

[subtle tundra]

and whats the problem?

[slow marsh]

Idk to me it seems like a waste to go with so many when you're gonna cut to 20 a few days later

That's just a lot of cuts

[limber lion]

Free gear for everyone

[subtle tundra]

you need more than 20 people for mythic raiding

[limber lion]

28 is a bit high in terms of roster number to be fair

[subtle tundra]

i've had 30+ roster before (not saying it was good or anything)

[slow marsh]

13 are melee is the most annoying part

[limber lion]

But still, no point not having everyone in the roster playing during heroic week

Everyone has to learn the fights

And get gear

[slow marsh]

But ye I get what you guys mean

[oak sky]

we had like 26 in just subbed out people that were inting

[limber lion]

It'll help understand the basic mechanics where you just slap a mythic thing on top

[subtle tundra]

its good to have more people also for having 2-3 of each class, in case there is something that makes a boss significantly easier like double mass dispell on nerzhul

[limber lion]

But yeh, I think something like 23 is a good number.

[slow marsh]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that a few are obviously not gonna cut it and to me I don't see why bring them in the first place

[limber lion]

But that's assuming some people play multiple specs

[subtle tundra]

well we're talking about mythic raiding

kinda have to assume that they are atleast humans

[slow marsh]

They are human alright

[limber lion]

There's levels to "mythic raiding" as well

[oak sky]

@spice spire logwatcher whats iceblades wcl

[limber lion]

Icebladesx

[slow marsh]

It's icebladesx

But it's private

[oak sky]

oh

ur all private huh

[slow marsh]

Unfort yeah

I thought heroic was gonna be public but I guess not

[oak sky]

interesting

private in that range

oh wait

they moved huh

[subtle tundra]

my guild ints enough already to do more dmg on meters, cant imagine with public logging

[oak sky]

wait yeah still

private logging at that WR

kinda weird

[subtle tundra]

its more about the mental

focus on mechanics, nobody can see how shit you are

[slow marsh]

Ye that's their reasoning exactly

[oak sky]

must make farm really fun

/s

be not shit

and kill the bosses every week

or whatever

[slow marsh]

Yeah

Idk the GM is hung up on trying to get back into 400 / us 100 since they fell off a bit after xferring horde

So in some ways it makes sense

[oak sky]

not really

imo players having fun will play better

[slow marsh]

Ofc

[glass tulip]

welp, had 1 P3 pull on xymox where we didnt know if we were supposed to lust

[oak sky]

logs more fun than no logs

[glass tulip]

our raiders went in mostly blind

[subtle tundra]

farm for us is trying to finish as fast as possible so we can log off 🙂

[oak sky]

ur still playing yeah varas?

[subtle tundra]

yea

[slow marsh]

And in my opinion if the padding thing is an issue then just kick them, but to them it makes sense so I just have to live with it for now

[oak sky]

bro padding is so cringe actually

i mean i guess some classes need it for logs

[subtle tundra]

cant pad if your class cant pad

[oak sky]

but we definitely don't

or don't

[slow marsh]

DH Boomie hunter

[oak sky]

our boomie is such a whore dude

nice enough but

i swear he would suck d for a pi

he was kinda being weird about trying to do more damage than me or whatever and it just wasnt happening

[subtle tundra]

i was told i could have all PIs for a raid night, i told them to give to someone else ;3

[oak sky]

thats sigma

looking out for the homies

[slow marsh]

I could probs get Perma pi if I actually asked for it but idk something about flexing ethical dam is nice

[oak sky]

yeah I literally don't care about pi

like in prog

I can probably get great logs without externalw

externals

[slow marsh]

I just want our externals to be efficient

[subtle tundra]

unless i get bond+pi+blessing+banner, dont give me externals tryna make me look bad huh

[slow marsh]

And if the most efficient target is me then give

If it's not then I cba

[oak sky]

its like you get 1 pi and everyone invalidates your log but actually you did more damage than the guys getting 3 pis + KA

[subtle tundra]

warrior might play necro and we have like 3 warrios

[oak sky]

ye necro fury looks good