assassination

[spice spire]

Yes

[plucky isle]

yeah just noticed in the pins, my bad! Thanks guys

[oak sky]

Love dorki for that

Maybe junkrat thinks its good

[hollow river]

What is this

Old shit?

[old thistle]

Prehistoric

[timid cloud]

Ye OLDEN patches.

[thorn fjord]

Max sim with Obedience and all haste gems/enchants running Nadjia and Blind side is capped at 9,704 😦

feelsbad

[bleak sky]

link your sim

[thorn fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3c4mqmqhzveYHxfFdKgoFT

[limber lion]

Blindside

monkas

[thorn fjord]

i dont want to run BS lol

but

looks like i'll be playing sub =/

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w6fbmdUYsFipU7F3gAhFBn

[limber lion]

If that's enough to make you switch and you play both at an equal level, then go for it

If you don't like sub, you don't really have to swap

[thorn fjord]

feel like almost a 600 difference is enough to switch

my haste is super low right now in sin

[limber lion]

That's assuming you play both specs at similar levels

[thorn fjord]

like 20%<

yeah i do

[limber lion]

And every encounter is different

There's some cleave encounters which are terrible for sub

Just play em both and see what you like more

[thorn fjord]

Yeah thats prob the play

I just dont want to have to swap out all enchants/gems lol

but i'll stop complaining

[limber lion]

That's no biggie

You don't really have to do that honestly

[thorn fjord]

with obedience i should be able to get 2 flags and the third will be lining up with Vendetta right?

[limber lion]

Once you start replacing your socketed gear with higher ilvl items without sockets, it won't make a difference anyways

:P

[limber lion]

Uhm, not quite

Obedience makes Flag a 1 minute CD

Vendetta is a 2 minute CD

Meaning you use every other Flag with Vendetta

[thorn fjord]

I mean from pull to your second use of vendetta

1 on pull one at 1 min and the third would be at 2m

[limber lion]

Okay, weird way to phrase

But yes

[thorn fjord]

Yeah im special LMAO

[limber lion]

Flag every minute

Vendetta every 2 minutes

[thorn fjord]

Thats convenient

and ambush on proc whenever right? (Didnt really use blindside this expansion)

[oak sky]

Yes

[thorn fjord]

Assuming with more gear if we want to stay venth (until 4 piece 2 leggo NF) Theo will be the better choice

Feels weird running Nadjia again

[bleak sky]

theo sims higher for you though

haste tea

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tPqxSpAbXp2aJPLR8kAnmx

even with just blindside

though I don't see why you'd run that even if it sims higher

[thorn fjord]

Interesting

[timid cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gGzWWhoZAJ4nnPe6Rkqe1J

Final boss.

[thorn fjord]

@bleak sky how do you add haste tea to the sim?

[clever kindle]

very old

[timid cloud]

shadowlands.party_favor_type=haste

[bleak sky]

shadowlands.party_favor_type=haste

in this box

[timid cloud]

Beat you to it.

[clever kindle]

If I remember the lore correctly poisons had been buffed, and combat had figured out a rotation using shiv as a point builder because the possible crit + guaranteed poison crit ended up doing more damage then sinister strike

[thorn fjord]

ty

[timid cloud]

I'm still thinking about my Sub sim...

[bleak sky]

are you crafting obe head though?

[timid cloud]

https://i.gyazo.com/136a3949e5ebfae890c93324e226017a.png

Maybe...

[bleak sky]

I can buy a 262 neck for sub to get +90 dps

and I'm thinking real hard

[timid cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eovBqPnDomQEMxxrhzeYWg

What if I told you.

It was 26 DPS

[bleak sky]

if this effect is not being simmed properly

it's more than 90 dps that I can get out of it, but I need an adult to confirm it's not being simmed

[timid cloud]

What’s that from?

[bleak sky]

crafted 262 gear

[timid cloud]

Oh!

[bleak sky]

it's 150k though that's the issue

[oak sky]

If i bought that it would kill my leggo budget

[bleak sky]

just get more gold

[timid cloud]

Time to pay 'ol Bobby "Big Dick" Kotick one more time...

[oak sky]

Oh yeah, I'll just do some boosts

[timid cloud]

OH WAIT

[fair slate]

im horrible at rogue but want to be a better assassin, anyone free for like 5 mins to help out?

for rotation and stuff

[limber lion]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[limber lion]

@fair slate

just read the guides

Wowhead is a great place to start

[nocturne geode]

heres a better pic of the item cev 🙂

[limber lion]

Can you send me a sim of the item and I'll look into it?

[nocturne geode]

not my pic friend posted it for me

[limber lion]

Just a quick sim of you wearing the item

Ah alright

[nocturne geode]

yea i saw people talking about it so figured id give you a pic w the name of it ect

[bleak sky]

gear compare works for you or do you want an actual ingame sim?

[fair slate]

thank you!

[nocturne geode]

leave it to blizz to give us another ring to wear besides aa ring

[limber lion]

That's fine

I just can't find the epic version of the item anywhere myself.

[timid cloud]

That's the new JC ring, right?

I could've sworn there was other ones that were better.

[nocturne geode]

im not sure if its that or a world drop

was on the ah

[oak sky]

Prob crafted

[bleak sky]

nvm epic version is not in raidbots either

[oak sky]

Since it says shadowlands crafted

[bleak sky]

[timid cloud]

It says crafted at the top

[nocturne geode]

👀

[bleak sky]

yeah it's crafted stuff,

[nocturne geode]

either way its a cozy ring to go along side out aa ring if they dont nerf it

bet you wont wear raid rings now

if you get the other 2

[limber lion]

Someone get a sim of someone wearing it and I'll look through it

Can't find it in Wowhead or raidbots

Completely mysterious item

[nocturne geode]

ill ask my buddy if someone doesnt post first

[limber lion]

What's your friends ign and server?

I can just quick sim that way

[bleak sky]

Cev with the big brain

[oak sky]

Since that ring caps out at 262 we probably replace it at higher ilvl yer

Its like a 230 from last tier but better

230 crafted

[limber lion]

I mean I'm 100% sure that effect only works in Zereth Mortis

From walking near the balls on the ground

[oak sky]

Yeah that would definitely make more sense

[nocturne geode]

its gilly in the pic

hunter on malganis

[limber lion]

But might as well take a look at it

[oak sky]

I thought ephemera was just flavor text

Lmao

[limber lion]

Can't find a gilly

[nocturne geode]

gillybertz

[night bison]

this is gilly

[limber lion]

right

[nocturne geode]

lol roo

[night bison]

and i am on bleeding hollow

[limber lion]

There we go

[nocturne geode]

ahh it is bh

my b

[limber lion]

It hasn't updated yet

unluck

[night bison]

i bought it like 20 min ago

[limber lion]

Yeh no worries

[night bison]

but it was a 45 dps increase as bm and 75 or surv

[limber lion]

Yeh, makes sense because it's a high ilvl piece with bis stats, I'm assuming

But yeah, I'm pretty positive the effect on it refers to these balls:

There's world quests/dailies that involve you draining anima from Ephmera motes, or something like that

and those are these balls

[bleak sky]

If that's the case, sadge

[oak sky]

Not really

[limber lion]

@night bison If you notice the agility effect on you somewhere else but Zereth Mortis, let me know

[somber hill]

drain me balls

[oak sky]

Dont have to buy it now

[echo geyser]

how do u get that

[bleak sky]

Buy it anyway but later in the week when more people can craft it

[bleak sky]

Craft/buy in ah

[hollow escarp]

it's honored crafter's mark item

doubt anybody on EU has access to it

[nocturne geode]

crafted

[bleak sky]

It started showing up yesterday on NA

So someone on EU today has access to it

[hollow escarp]

those people were living in ZM

[bleak sky]

Yep

[hollow river]

They were already on NA AH yesterday

Yer

[hollow escarp]

I'll have my 4 alts ready to craft those in 2 days

guess I'm very slow

[hollow river]

I’m a couple days behind

[limber lion]

We don't have a single one of those items in our AH

[hollow escarp]

there's also a nice speed set for 233 gear

[hollow river]

So I’ll be like 4 days

[bleak sky]

Tomorrow then cev

For sure

[night bison]

I just got the proc

[limber lion]

Nah

[nocturne geode]

if those procs work tho there juicers

[limber lion]

Where?

[night bison]

im in oribos

atm

[hollow river]

They should already be up in EU tbh

[hollow escarp]

wasn't this talked about before?

[hollow river]

Kinda weird they’re not

[limber lion]

You got the proc in Oribos?

[hollow escarp]

the item will be used in prog

[limber lion]

[nocturne geode]

if those work nobody tell whispyr he will be sadge to re sim stuff

[bleak sky]

LFG BOIS TIME TO ACQUIRE NECK

[limber lion]

Nah, this is just a dead server

[obtuse robin]

oh oh

[limber lion]

We don't have anything here

[hollow escarp]

people in the gold making community talke about that item for months already

or that effect rather

[hollow river]

What server are you on?

[echo geyser]

can u already make full wearable 233s?

[hollow river]

[limber lion]

Cosmic healing potions are 500g a pop

Stormreaver

[hollow escarp]

not me

[hollow river]

Holy crap lmao

[bleak sky]

Can you hit a dummy for a bit and upload logs?

[echo geyser]

i know people could make 200 ilvl

[limber lion]

Let me check Twisting Nether

[echo geyser]

but i didnt know u could have 233

[oak sky]

Just use spirit healing pots until rwf is over

[hollow escarp]

I think you need honored to get the thing in the crafting window

[hollow river]

New pots are OP rn tho

20k hp pog

[oak sky]

Yeah but 500 a pop lol

[hollow river]

I mean

[oak sky]

Seriously tho

[copper sundial]

My guildy can make em, ill check it out this evening

[hollow river]

Gold shouldn’t be an issue for most people

[oak sky]

Progenitor essentia been selling for over 10k

[hollow river]

If they’ve boosted

[limber lion]

Boosting's dead though

[bleak sky]

I should craft those

[hollow river]

???

[limber lion]

Not like people assumed it would die and saved up

[hollow river]

My guild has been boosting like mad

[limber lion]

Hell no, we used our gold

Well, good for you

Our guild does not do that

We don't boost at all

[hollow river]

Sadge

[limber lion]

There's no one to boost on a server like this

[hollow escarp]

@echo geyser also I have no crafters on Kazzak, will buy from AH, but will sell some on Twisting Nether

[hollow river]

Unfortunate

[limber lion]

Yeah, no 262 jewelry in TN either

[hollow river]

There’s 262 gear pieces too

[limber lion]

Cosmic pots are 230 a pop in TN though

kek

[hollow river]

Not just jewelry

[bleak sky]

Check tarren mill maybe?

[hollow river]

It’s all unique equip though, like 233s were going into 9.1

[hollow escarp]

https://theunderminejournal.com/#eu

you can check all items here

[bleak sky]

Oh ye ty kojack

[echo geyser]

233s are not unique equipped anymore right

so u can make them with special effects

[hollow escarp]

233 are the old 200 Ram

[echo geyser]

now already or on reset?

[hollow escarp]

so you can gear a fresh alt wit ha full set of those

[night bison]

Alright, im averaging about 1.5 procs per minute with that ring, there is the exact same proc for necklaces aswell.

[echo geyser]

[hollow escarp]

those are 230s

[echo geyser]

oh right

[hollow escarp]

the blue gear from 9.1

[echo geyser]

need to find a crafter

[limber lion]

From hitting a dummy in Oribos?

[night bison]

Yeah

[limber lion]

Damn

It's over boys

[nocturne geode]

LOL

[bleak sky]

Please upload a log and share if you can?

[obtuse robin]

[hollow escarp]

so this is the item you can use to craft 262, which you unlock at honored

[night bison]

SPend 150k!

[hollow escarp]

and crafter's mark 4 is tha 233

[copper sundial]

Hmm wonder which slot to use it. Probably neck/ring for the socket

[bleak sky]

My neck is dog shit so that's easy

[copper sundial]

Same

[glass tulip]

oh one of our paladins was testing the item where it was dealing 2% hp damage to the target every 5 seconds

and it worked on a turnip in oribos

[hollow escarp]

the stat proc will be nice first few weeks of prog, but imagine the full speed set

it also affects mounted speed

[copper sundial]

I assume main stat is the play or avoidance maybe if ur tryharding raid.

[obtuse robin]

can we only sim this item atm if we have it in game?

[limber lion]

You can sim it if you own it, yes

And if you do, can you please link the sim here?

[nocturne geode]

now ythe real question do we want a big haste one

or a big crit

[limber lion]

Big haste

[echo geyser]

@hollow escarp why cant i find any 233s on AH

[hollow escarp]

probably because nobody is honored on kazzak

[nocturne geode]

i got it cev gonna sim for you

[hollow escarp]

so can't craft them

[echo geyser]

fking slackers

[hollow escarp]

I underestimated how valuable rares are

200-300 more rep daily

[oak sky]

Should be 290 i think

[hollow escarp]

instead I leveled in lost ark

[bleak sky]

yeah it's a lot

[oak sky]

Theres 29 rares no?

[bleak sky]

some give more rep

[hollow escarp]

some don't appear daily

and give 10-15 rep

[bleak sky]

some give 15, most give 10

[hollow escarp]

+10% if you are human

[echo geyser]

its about 23-25 rares per day u can kill

[obtuse robin]

do rares give the rng toekn or only chests

[echo geyser]

never 29

[oak sky]

Yessir

I havent been grinding too too hard

I just do them when convenient

[hollow escarp]

you've been sleeping in ZM Ram, what's your rep?

[echo geyser]

i havent killed rares today yet

[hollow escarp]

2k ahead of me

[oak sky]

Ram a full 1k above me in eu

[echo geyser]

only like 2 days ahead

[oak sky]

[hollow escarp]

1.8k to be more precise

[drifting cloud]

what

[hollow escarp]

should have focused 1 char instead of 5

[drifting cloud]

im 3.5 and im in the zone for 10min a day

[hollow escarp]

I'm 3-3.1k

[drifting cloud]

you prolly just havent turned in the quest yet

[hollow escarp]

on main

[echo geyser]

none of my alts stepped into zm

[drifting cloud]

% bar

[nocturne geode]

inc sim one sec @limber lion

[drifting cloud]

I literally do 3 wq and nothing else

[hollow escarp]

[echo geyser]

yeah thats the biggest gain

[nocturne geode]

you can pic the stats tho since its crafted whic is neat

which

[hollow escarp]

yeah, people will sell crafting services in trade chat for sure

50k, get your ring

[oak sky]

And thats all you gotta do

[echo geyser]

im tryna buy 233s but i guess it wont be up until tomorrow / 2 days

3 days

idk

[hollow escarp]

I'm pretty sure we will have people at honored tomorrow eve

[oak sky]

Shouldve rushed exalted for infinite auggie tbh

[hollow escarp]

still have 500 to burn

[nocturne geode]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/muviTcUkmta6Yd9X93WF9A

you can adjust whatever you need to

just logged in rq and ran sim

[hollow escarp]

nice

[nocturne geode]

better than slyv ring

apprently

[obtuse robin]

o.o

[echo geyser]

nice

i mean its like the ring from cos p much

[hollow escarp]

tbf, legion aa ring is better than sylv for me

[echo geyser]

but a bit better

nothing crazy but still nice to be able to BUY it

whoever crafts that day 1 gonna make bank

[nocturne geode]

109dps apprently

for me

[hollow escarp]

you are already night fae

[nocturne geode]

i told you

ive been fae

[hollow escarp]

what loa you serve?

[nocturne geode]

wasnt having fun w venth 😦 got bored

haste was fun

🙂

@balmy condor have new ring juice info for you

[oak sky]

Its necro babaaaaay

[balmy condor]

?

[hollow escarp]

[obtuse robin]

[nocturne geode]

crafted ring works everywhere

@balmy condor

[obtuse robin]

any 5heads wanna tell me how i take that rings string and put it in my sim

[nocturne geode]

or atleast oribos for sure

[stable pasture]

rings? US only RINGS?

[balmy condor]

Crafted ring works everywhere?

[spice spire]

Yes apparently

[limber lion]

Looks like it

[balmy condor]

I don’t get it

Are there effect rings

[limber lion]

Yes there are

unfortunately

[spice spire]

Supposed to be ZM only

[limber lion]

The crafted rings are epic rings

[nocturne geode]

yes

^

[limber lion]

Or the crafted gear rather

[hollow escarp]

idk if it was supposed to be ZM only when people were talking about them being bis first week of the patch

[stable pasture]

strong effects?

[nocturne geode]

check the sim i posted for everyone

[copper sundial]

Mainstat

[bleak sky]

chance to get 42 agi for 15 sec and apparently on a 1.5 PPM

[limber lion]

Tooltips are always tooltips as we know

but the tooltip very clearly refers to Zereth Mortis imo

so it is very weird that it would work outside of ZM

[hollow escarp]

the speed effect is only working in shadowlands zones though

[balmy condor]

Def not intended

[limber lion]

Yeh

The effect is not being applied to sims either (for anyone wondering)

But I wouldn't splurge on these items

for them to get fixed in 3 days

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[bleak sky]

it still might be an upgrade for some people

[hollow escarp]

I've been farming rep on 5 chars for an item that will get nerfed

[nocturne geode]

meh was only 150k i suppose will be fun to have till we see what they do

[bleak sky]

if the effect works and is intended then it's def worth 100-150k

[limber lion]

Yeh definitely, the base item itself is still an upgrade for many

Without the fancy effects

[bleak sky]

if it doesn't work then it's hard to justify

[spice spire]

Unless you’re swimming in it that is

[fleet imp]

talking about the Harmonizing stone?

[limber lion]

No

By the way, can anyone link me a sim of the newest alchemy stone as well

[copper sundial]

150k worth of mats or did u just buy the thing off ah?

[hollow river]

Newest alchemy stone?

[limber lion]

Yeh

Alchemy stone with the newest Crafter's Mark

[nocturne geode]

bought it rq i had the lil extra to spare for the sake of conversation

[hollow river]

What is that

[nocturne geode]

coffers from m+ sales arent empty yet

[hollow escarp]

I can make that in 1-2 days

[limber lion]

Alchemy Stone is a trinket made with

[hollow river]

And what gear exactly is procing agi?

[limber lion]

you guessed it

Alchemy

[hollow river]

Ohhh the trinket

I can make those I think

[nocturne geode]

crafted ring/neck

[hollow river]

I got the recipe yesterday

[limber lion]

Yeah, the recipe book is just a bit scuffed for me

[hollow river]

All of them?

[nocturne geode]

ye there working outside zerith

[hollow river]

Oh wow

Don’t they all come with a socket too

[gusty mirage]

ye

[nocturne geode]

yep

[hollow escarp]

not only ring neck

any item

[hollow river]

Yeah

Wait

Any item is procing agi?

[proven saddle]

It’s an optional crafting reagent

[hollow escarp]

you will need this unlocked though

[limber lion]

Gotta have the right enhancement

[nocturne geode]

anyone that has the proc is able to proc

[hollow escarp]

so it's crafter's mark + enchantment

which is not made by enchanters

[gusty mirage]

"No player power is tied to Zereth Mortis"

[hollow escarp]

come on

it's only a few days

[timid cloud]

There's no SHOT it works in raid.

[hollow river]

Double leggo is tied to ZM

[glass tulip]

that is reputation, much different

obviously smh

[hollow river]

Err what

[obtuse robin]

dont u have to kill 10 rares to

[hollow river]

291s are locked behind rep too

[glass tulip]

black I think that one is for flying

[gusty mirage]

[obtuse robin]

oh right

u also need the progginter thing

[brazen zodiac]

rep check

sup black, mav

[obtuse robin]

hey

which i somehow have 12 of

[hollow escarp]

for what?

[hollow river]

Aren’t they?

[limber lion]

This fucking server

I s2g

[hollow river]

LOOOOL

That is fucked up

[limber lion]

That's just one of 3 parts

[dawn ivy]

i dont even want to check illidan

[limber lion]

they gon' be like 1m each

[obtuse robin]

dont u need this thing to make ur new leggo

[limber lion]

[hollow river]

Everything should be cheap on illidan

[thorn fjord]

What server @limber lion

[limber lion]

Stormreaver

[gusty mirage]

oh sweet child

[hollow escarp]

the legendary crafters yes, not regular players though

[hollow river]

No only to craft the base items

[gusty mirage]

you think anything will be cheap on a server that has: liquid, bdgg, iktb, dmg, etc etc etc?

[hollow river]

True

[gusty mirage]

[obtuse robin]

that thing is 3500g on area 52

[gusty mirage]

if I wasn't stuck at work I'd log on illidan and check

but I'm assuming its probably 10 times that

[hollow escarp]

keep in mind that there is no market for that item yet until other crafters reach honored and can use it

[gusty mirage]

considering the strange goop is still 250k on illidan and it's fallen to like 100k everywhere else lmao

[hollow escarp]

either way, your server will still be fucked

[obtuse robin]

@brazen zodiac lend me some gold i have a ring to buy

[glass tulip]

badbttch? more like brokebttch

[soft merlin]

what trinkets will u guys run at start as assa? faulty+phial? salvaged+phial?

[obtuse robin]

true

[brazen zodiac]

how much u need

hey amav

we

im RICH OK.

[obtuse robin]

oh word

how about 100k let me test you

money bag alert

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

i mean do u really need 100k?

i will give u that i have about 600k rn

my gold stricktly goes to wow subs for my bf and i xd

[obtuse robin]

nah 50k will do

[brazen zodiac]

kk ill send that over in a few minutes just killin some rares

u wanna come kill gorkek?

[obtuse robin]

that ring is 100 dps more for me w/o the effect

fuk it right

sure

[brazen zodiac]

what boe ring is it?

a 246??

oh wait you stopped palying mid tier right right

[nocturne geode]

crafted 262

[obtuse robin]

262

[nocturne geode]

@brazen zodiac

[obtuse robin]

sweatys already honored crafting

and it has a proc on it

[brazen zodiac]

ohhh you wanted a crafted boe

[obtuse robin]

that is currently working outside zm

[brazen zodiac]

hm

[obtuse robin]

inv forgor

[brazen zodiac]

nvm gorkek dead

f

[obtuse robin]

rip

[night bison]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4RT2ZiWkQYA81vuwnssQN1

heres my ring sim

its totally worth it

[hollow escarp]

ohh, my main can craft items with progenitor enchancements

[obtuse robin]

if u dont have endgame rings yea

[hollow river]

I mean it’s probably worth over a 252

[hollow escarp]

this could also work

you can add the aealic enchant on it

[obtuse robin]

by endgame i meant sylv ring but yea thats endgame for most ppl 252

[brazen zodiac]

i kinda wanna make boes but sounds like a metric fuck ton of work lol

[bleak sky]

if they change rep gains from the 3x/week quest to 1500 I'm good to craft this stuff tomorrow

[hollow river]

Yeah sylv and painsmith rings are bis for me atm

[brazen zodiac]

how are you able to sim these crafted 262 boes?

[hollow river]

Too much crit to be using PF ring

[brazen zodiac]

just through gear compare or

[nocturne geode]

sim that ring @hollow river

[obtuse robin]

yea

it doesnt have the effect tho

[brazen zodiac]

oh ok

whats it called?

[hollow river]

Can’t right now I’m not home

[obtuse robin]

oxx something ring

[hollow river]

Oxxein

Or something

[hollow escarp]

quick oxxein ring

haste + random secondary

[hollow river]

I could probably get rid of my Remnant neck

I never got kt neck

[hollow escarp]

you can add missive to have whatever stat you want

[hollow river]

That’s only when you craft it yourself isn’t it?

[hollow escarp]

yeah

[hollow river]

I think you add jewel clusters

Not missives

Iirc

[brazen zodiac]

jewel clusters?

am i palying path or wow

[nocturne geode]

and you can buy it that way too if you have the gold avail

[hollow river]

Gems

[hollow river]

What are the reqs to craft besides honored @hollow escarp

[bleak sky]

have JC leveled I guess

[hollow escarp]

honored is for 262 crafter's mark

[hollow river]

Ye Is that all you need? Besides JC lvled obviously

[hollow escarp]

I'm currently getting another jewelcrafter through ZM

[hollow river]

I don’t have Mark 1 or 2

[hollow escarp]

you don't need them

[hollow river]

Bet

[hollow escarp]

yep

[hollow river]

Bout to level JC on my rogue tonight

[brazen zodiac]

JC?

whats tht

[hollow river]

Sucks to drop alchemy

Jewel crafting

[hollow escarp]

ohh, well don't

you can craft the trinket

[brazen zodiac]

oh i see

[hollow escarp]

Spiritual Alchemy Stone

[hollow river]

I think I have that recipe too

But I don’t have rep on alts

[brazen zodiac]

engi just too good

[hollow river]

So

[brazen zodiac]

i cant live without my AH in oribos

[hollow river]

I dropped engi yesterday

[hollow escarp]

I have enchanting/alchemy on main

[hollow river]

How much is the trinket even worth

[bleak sky]

bruh what

engi is too valuable

[hollow river]

What

No it isn’t

It makes 0 gold

I just got the engi recipe for Speed on gear too

[bleak sky]

oh gold sure

[hollow river]

F that lol

[bleak sky]

but not having engi on a rogue for brez

[hollow river]

Don’t care

Never made brez thing

Ever

[hollow escarp]

just don't play with people who need brez

[bleak sky]

ye don't die

[hollow river]

Was only engi for AH and goggles

I’m tryna make some paper

Want to get into legendary crafting too

[hollow escarp]

[bleak sky]

isnt like

sink 500k in mats just to get to rank 4 maybe?

[hollow escarp]

you only need rank 4

[bleak sky]

yeah but

[hollow river]

1m for JC

[bleak sky]

1M gold and no guarantee to make it back

[hollow river]

3M for all leather pieces

[hollow escarp]

only 3m?

[hollow river]

Lol no guarantee

[hollow escarp]

I thought it was 7-8 mil last time I checked

[hollow river]

Not including Mail

[trim zinc]

how many fights do u guys think that we will need to use zoldyck before tierset and 2 leggo?

[bleak sky]

zero

[hollow river]

None

[trim zinc]

even if we heave a heavy execute fight?

[hollow river]

None

[hollow escarp]

do you only have zoldyck on your rogue?

[hollow river]

Unless it’s an insane execute fight and you don’t need damage anywhere else

Which Is highly unlikely

[hollow river]

For leather and Mail yeah it’s 6-7M typically

On NA

[viscid spear]

Seems that way

[brazen zodiac]

srry @obtuse robin

i forgot

[obtuse robin]

all good

[brazen zodiac]

how much u need again and whats ur in-game again

[obtuse robin]

50k

holddat

[brazen zodiac]

area52?

[obtuse robin]

yea

[violet hemlock]

yo can I get free gold?

[viscid spear]

Sure, let me get your login info and I'll transfer some to you

[brazen zodiac]

i mean....

if u need some gold for like a boe or somethin i dont rly mind so long as ur actually buyin a boe and not those hardcore world of warcraft drugs u see around bastion

[trim zinc]

i have a 262 dashing

[violet hemlock]

lol

[brazen zodiac]

yo black come help with mother

this rare a real bitch and a half

well not a half she has 8 legs but close enough

[violet hemlock]

are the 291 leggos available

[bleak sky]

no

chapter gated

[brazen zodiac]

based

[violet hemlock]

sad

Ima wait to buy boes till after I farm m+ to deaths tmrw

[brazen zodiac]

oh yeah that starts tomorrow

better buy a bottle of vodka bro ur gonna need it

[violet hemlock]

I have rum

[brazen zodiac]

rums good but idk vodka has a specific taste

a burn your throat and remind you of funny college nights kinda taste

[violet hemlock]

Im still in col,lege

dont need reminder

[brazen zodiac]

college was fun but idk i grew outta that shit too fast

i cant believe we drink ourselves to death pass out in a parking lot then somehow get to an 8 am on time

what r u studying?

[violet hemlock]

Engineering

[brazen zodiac]

thats rad as heck

[violet hemlock]

means between college shit and wow I have 0 time

[oak sky]

[brazen zodiac]

yeah but you make money and get to play wow

u dont need a woman or kids u got world of warcraft

u gotta save the shadowlands

no need for friends

[obtuse robin]

ur bf must love you

[brazen zodiac]

yes i cook him food and buy him elder rings

in return he lets me sleep at night :)

[obtuse robin]

phrasing

[brazen zodiac]

making everyone rp walk while fighting mother spider

fabulous

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

gamers gotta gamer even at 3 am

not me sir i need my beauty sleep

[obtuse robin]

oh thats what u ment

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

?

get ur dang head outta da gutters

[obtuse robin]

reread what u said

[brazen zodiac]

or do i have to get mine out of the gutter :o

[obtuse robin]

nah nah

thats on you

[brazen zodiac]

XD

@gusty mirage im confused, how did you get dapper pocopoc?

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

or was that the last one you were waiting for to get

[gusty mirage]

Wha

[brazen zodiac]

the cosmetic

or was it someone else just as cool and awesome as u that got it i dont remember

[woven ruin]

Anyone else really feeling the loss of Winds?

[limber lion]

Someone tell me what the alchemy stone does and what stats it has

[obtuse robin]

its rather bad

[limber lion]

gee thanks

[red plaza]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kgK4q3bj6THYfZGy#fight=6&view=rankings

Any log people know why this and a bunch of other sin logs I had were removed? They were back in late November/early December before the BoP/Edge of night 4 stack shenanigans. I can't recall any other cheeses Assa rogues could do.

[limber lion]

[limber lion]

That's not it....

[obtuse robin]

oh

[glass tulip]

[obtuse robin]

well fuck me in the ass

[limber lion]

You definitely did abuse the dagger

[glass tulip]

is that consent?

[limber lion]

Unknowingly

[obtuse robin]

[red plaza]

oohh. yeah druid just sent KA on pull

[limber lion]

The bug has been in the game since day 1 of the daggers introduction

[red plaza]

i guess i got hit by an arrow or something then?

rip started 2 min in

[bleak sky]

can't find any 262 on the market king

[brazen zodiac]

what dagger bug? the one with EoN?

[bleak sky]

seems like nobody bothered to craft them

[glass tulip]

yeah where you insta stack banshees blight

[bleak sky]

at least on my realm

[brazen zodiac]

oh based

[limber lion]

No, it started at 11 seconds

Where you instantly jumped to 2 stacks

[brazen zodiac]

u dirty lil cute bug abuser u!

[limber lion]

Got hit by Barbed Arrow

Or well

Barbed Arrow was applied on you

[obtuse robin]

whats the trinket called

[red plaza]

😦 It's good i guess they can find that out and parse out those logs...but can't create a separate no external ranking

[limber lion]

But as you can see from the screenshot, you were at 4 stacks for 12+ minutes.

Which is likely more than most externals would give you

[bleak sky]

Spiritual Alchemy Stone

[limber lion]

Also the logs get filtered out manually by people flagging them

The system does not automatically scan through every log

It starts the scan process if someone flags the log

It sucks, but what can you do

[glass tulip]

not accidentally bug abuse

[brazen zodiac]

detective cev is on the case

[red plaza]

hahaah best believe that was going on end of january

[brazen zodiac]

how are u doin cev

[red plaza]

when it was more widepsread

[limber lion]

The flagging feature was added less than a week ago

That's why they're getting hit now and not 2 months ago

[red plaza]

It was the one night I got selected to be KA/PI chad

all those logs are gone now 😦

[limber lion]

chillin', you?

[glass tulip]

keep them in your heart

[limber lion]

goood

external-slaves

getting rid of all of ya'll

one by one

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

killin rares and preparing myself for the metric FUCK TON of m+ ima have to do tomorrow and for the next 2-3 weeks

[glass tulip]

DoS prison for trinkets

[brazen zodiac]

no

[limber lion]

yeeep, gonna have to grind m+ a bunch

[brazen zodiac]

i rather shoot my boyfriends toe

[limber lion]

plaguefall is my new home starting Wednesday

again

[brazen zodiac]

the do DOS

[glass tulip]

so in what instance would a rogue use blood splattered scale

[brazen zodiac]

wait why plguefall?

[limber lion]

Never

[brazen zodiac]

is it for that crithaste ring?

[limber lion]

Because of Phial and Ooze trinket

[glass tulip]

phial is still good for sub

[brazen zodiac]

ah

will ooze become our new fancy trinket?

ooze cool i dig the lil green blob

[hollow escarp]

it's also stealthy

unlike Kevin

[glass tulip]

kevin

[brazen zodiac]

do i make mac n cheese with chicken or burritos with chicken

[limber lion]

Ooze is like 3rd best or something

it's aight

[brazen zodiac]

works for me

is now a good time to run a droptimizer sim for dungeons or has it not been updated to the new ilvls

[limber lion]

You can, I've done so as well

[brazen zodiac]

rad thx

[limber lion]

Set it to 272 ilvl for Valor-upgraded items

[brazen zodiac]

ah okie dokie

whats the base ilvl that drops from 15+ now, 262?

[balmy condor]

they wouldn't?

to mavv

[brazen zodiac]

huh

oh

[glass tulip]

idk was just curious if it would be a thing kek

Phial - 1.8%
Ooze - 1.5%
Shadowgrasp - 1.2%

is what my droptimizer says for 278s

iqd - -1%

[limber lion]

278's

[fallen acorn]

Ilvl is capped at 255 upcoming week

[brazen zodiac]

ah ok, ty. how about after that?

iqd best trinket

[fallen acorn]

262 end of the dungeon

[strange python]

so whats the best covenant at this time for double legos?

[obtuse robin]

fairybois

[brazen zodiac]

ah ok thank u very much dylann with 2 ns :D

[fallen acorn]

278 in vault

Nps

[limber lion]

Night Fae with the tier set as well

[echo geyser]

whats the ilvl for +15 when max valor upgrade

272?

[glass tulip]

showing 272 faulty as 2.5% and tirathon's 1.7% so looks like I will be in legion

until I blow my brains out

[brazen zodiac]

did the legion dungeons come out yet

[glass tulip]

april 12

[brazen zodiac]

its ok mav we can blow our brains out together :)

lol i was driving earlier and the driving instructor took the wheel and said "i wanna die but not like this"

very based

[hollow escarp]

ohh, they moved legion TW in April now

[fallen acorn]

Probs 272 yea since it's a 6 ilvl difference right now as well.

[copper sundial]

I wonder if this tw will only be a week

[hollow escarp]

1 week, it's on the calendar

[glass tulip]

yeah its just a normal tw like the others now

until people cry and they may extend it

[obtuse robin]

inb4 different set of dun's

[glass tulip]

black you think blizz wants to do more work? good one

[copper sundial]

It is kinda terrible tbh. If you're away for that week you miss out on potentially bis gear. Rip

[obtuse robin]

true

[limber lion]

A new 272 dagger is a 209 dps upgrade.

A 272 Faulty Countermeasure is a 243 dps upgrade.

[copper sundial]

-_-

[glass tulip]

balanced

[limber lion]

The 272 dagger is the biggest upgrade I can get from normal dungeons

[brazen zodiac]

i gotta sim to fix my st first before i even run a droptimizer lmfao

[next solar]

@brazen zodiac i gotta choose what i wanna fucking play before i can even run a droptimizer haha

[brazen zodiac]

im sin4life

[obtuse robin]

well

outlaw is still capped so i gotta suck it up and play sub in m+

[brazen zodiac]

sin4life even in m+

[obtuse robin]

so much work

[brazen zodiac]

idk rupturerupturerupterute fokfokfokfofk

seems ez

[hollow escarp]

garrote 1 garrote 2 garrote 3

[obtuse robin]

oh i guess pre tier yea

[brazen zodiac]

garrote 4

kick that kidney shot him

ezpz

[obtuse robin]

i just want to press buttons while looking at one mob

[brazen zodiac]

lol this synthesis shit is selling for like 90k

[obtuse robin]

wat

[sterile chasm]

Phial is still bis for sin?

[brazen zodiac]

i took dealic understanding and it unlocked this forge thing that lets you make mounts and pets apparently

and some of the material used to craft them are selling for like 80k

[limber lion]

in terms of dungeon trinkets, yes

[alpine latch]

Glad to see the nerf wasn’t too massive, then.

[limber lion]

Glad?

it's a boring ass trinket

[alpine latch]

I have on use trinkets. Let alone if we have to run double.

[limber lion]

and sucks major cock having to farm it every patch

[alpine latch]

Hate*

[sterile chasm]

Tazavesh sack is good for m+?

[hollow escarp]

Ceverion knows a lot of things, looting the phial from vault is not one of them.

[limber lion]

sure, maybe, idk

try simming yourself

[limber lion]

[alpine latch]

I couldn’t care less about “fun” trinkets. I suck, give me passive trinkets that I don’t need to think about.

I just macro trinkets when I have to use an on-use one.

[brazen zodiac]

weird i personally find onuse trinkets more fun cuz more buttons

[alpine latch]

I don’t need more buttons

If I cared about that I’d play a piano, lol

[spice spire]

palmer rn

[alpine latch]

100%

[brazen zodiac]

u a hater

[alpine latch]

💯

[brazen zodiac]

phial hater incoming

[bleak sky]

if it don't do damage it don't matter

[brazen zodiac]

minal gamer incoming

[bleak sky]

na i'm still running stupid sims

[timid cloud]

Doesn’t matter what trinket I use, passive or not, just as long as it deals damage & is not IQD or Font.

[hollow river]

is TW trinket not bis over everything else?

countermeasure

[spice spire]

npo

[timid cloud]

Not since we lost Frost.

[hollow river]

really

it was thought to be bis like a week or two ago i thought

[glass tulip]

it still is for me based on droptimizer ik what you guys are smoking

[timid cloud]

Also depends on the new trinkets being dog water or not.

[hollow river]

i'd rather farm faulty over iqd any day

[timid cloud]

I am a sober player, sorry, I do not use abuse drugs.

[hollow river]

but it not having main stat must hurt it

[hollow river]

is iqd simming > faulty on the default profiles?

[spice spire]

@glass tulip it wasn't even close on me -

and for me, yes

[limber lion]

Yes it is

[spice spire]

for me when I simmed default profile*

[hollow river]

thank god

[limber lion]

For now

[spice spire]

i had it as 2% worse than IQD and phial

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

now I'm frightened

[hollow river]

i mean outside of raid trinkets

because RNG may make some of those elusive

and gonna have to farm dungeon shit in the time being

[limber lion]

but for realskies

Sigil + Phial sims the best for me

with 4p/double lego

that's however assuming a +15 vault phial

[hollow river]

yeah for full bis

going to be a fun tier to gear in

[limber lion]

no

[hollow river]

are all the raid trinkets simming properly now?

[limber lion]

it's not full bis

it's just tier set and double lego

[hollow river]

oh

[limber lion]

my exact current gear

with normal tier set slapped on top

[hollow river]

so likely to change

[limber lion]

Full bis is a completely different story

[hollow river]

based on gear you get

[limber lion]

Yes, just like all things

But idk what sims Quake has done

because IQD is terrible

[spice spire]

I did t28, I'm double checking now though

because iirc it was the same broken thing i did before

[limber lion]

The highest IQD result that I got was IQD + Phial

[hollow river]

yes, please steer us away from that garbage

[limber lion]

at -481 dps

[hollow river]

[timid cloud]

I swear to god, if you sim it & we get IQD #1.

I will hurt you.

[limber lion]

IQD is best for Sub

[timid cloud]

[oak sky]

Ew

Sub goes iqd now

[timid cloud]

I know some CN / KR’s were doing it for M+

[limber lion]

A lot of people do in m+

because in m+ it's a good trinket

[timid cloud]

I feel like I see a lot more amp & uhhh phial. Or at least before the nerf.

[hollow river]

guess who won't be playing sub in any capacity after he obtains 4set

[gusty mirage]

Probably cause you can be greedier with amp

[hollow river]

unless it's busted for anduin or some fights

[limber lion]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9tCNZt7vqzaX51v7PkYyuD
Here's the bis profile with Sigil/So'leah

[timid cloud]

I’d still rather play Sub instead of Sin for keys…

[limber lion]

IQD is -0.9%

[timid cloud]

Until they fix this FOK bug where you only get 1 CP…

[limber lion]

Anyways

I'm stoked that Sigil is our best trinket

[frosty cedar]

do stats gained from trinkets get DR?

[limber lion]

They do dr in a way

But if IQD says that you get 780 crit, then you get 780 crit

The stat gain that is displayed on the trinket is the gain that you get

[frosty cedar]

so they do interact with the 30%+ DR thing?

[limber lion]

Yes

[frosty cedar]

ok good to know thanks 🙂

[timid cloud]

Which So’leahs did you have it get? Haste? I can’t see since I’m on mobile.

[limber lion]

Haste

[timid cloud]

[limber lion]

Actually, I think this profile is a bit bad

[spice spire]

I found it, and ran base, and it aws not as much as i remember I'm just bad though i agree, profile is quite jank.

[viscid spear]

[spice spire]

IQD was a gain, but .7% less than faulty

and a bit less than the sigil from raid

[brazen zodiac]

do yall sim iqd stat proc % at a specific % or do you leave it 100%

[timid cloud]

100

[brazen zodiac]

i sim it at like 30% cuz i think its pretty impossible to get the stat proc during a raid

[timid cloud]

You can pretty much avoid it being execute if you de-target.

[brazen zodiac]

yeah?

[timid cloud]

The only thing you cannot avoid usually is mana.

[brazen zodiac]

good to know

yeah

[timid cloud]

If your tank is dead it will also summon a decoy / taunt

[limber lion]

30% is a very very low ball

The trinket has a decent cooldown and you can always guarantee stats with lust

So you'll always get stats in the beginning of a pull

Even without lust you'd get stats in the beginning because no other conditions match

I would sim at 80-100% personally

[timid cloud]

I think a funny one is if someone prepulls & gets smacked so you just heal them.

[limber lion]

And just make the decision based on the results

[brave moth]

Any necro sins going in blind?

[spice spire]

bleh I'll work on this later, for now cev right - and I have a strong feeling in the end, he will be right that it's sigil + phial with faulty being a solid third.

[limber lion]

I have a dank sim coming up

Dw

[spice spire]

oh I'm ready for some sauce papi