#assassination
normal mist
glass tulip
gcd economics 
marble hemlock
cause like, do you shiv early for subter garrote value, or late for when you have more ruptures running. do you refresh bleeds on your vendetta prio target, or do you keep spreading bleeds for better overall etc.
the lack of useful legendaries on aoe also sucks
cov legendaries that is
but who knows
maybe dusk/deathspike isnt all that bad
gusty mirage
the lack of useful legendaries on aoe also sucks
But zoldyks 
gusty mirage
A legendary that does nothing for 70% a mob’s health is fine
marble hemlock
and doesnt work with a bunch of abilities
marble hemlock
id say the same but youre you
so it wouldnt even be enough
cause youre even more than that
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
But yeah, it would’ve been nice to even have something that was useful in aoe
marble hemlock
shadow tulip
marble hemlock
too slow sir
normal mist
LOL
gusty mirage
Might not be great, but they could’ve considered an echoing blades legendary
gusty mirage
TRUE
shadow tulip
😦
gusty mirage
Good ol’ agi rupture azerite trait. The most under appreciated trait we had in bfa
normal mist
It's fine lac, he was only 0.5sec faster
marble hemlock
couldve also just changed hidden blades to smth like "your fan of knives deals 20% extra damage for each of your rupture and garrotes active"
gusty mirage
Just sucks that our only aoe is “lol talent into CT, hf”
shadow tulip
SADGE
marble hemlock
nah, dope woudlve been combining scent and echoing blades into "your fan of knives deals x extra damage in a 5y radius around each target afflicted by your rupture or garrote"
slow marsh
Yeah that'd be mega
marble hemlock
i loved scent 😦
shadow tulip
Hasn't been alowed for years now
normal mist
Sorry
marble hemlock
its a different kind of fun
normal mist
I'm just
shadow tulip
Except if you're WW
normal mist
marble hemlock
its almost as if peoples understanding of "fun" is different
gusty mirage
Except if you're WW
Or hunter or mage or affi lock
marble hemlock
and subject to each individuals taste and enjoyment. they should make a word for that
normal mist
You know what fun means to me?
gusty mirage
Getting gear upgrades?
marble hemlock
no, why?
limber lion
and subject to each individuals taste and enjoyment. they should make a word for...
if your opinion is different from mine, it's wrong.
gusty mirage
if your opinion is different from mine, it's wrong.
normal mist
Mutilating = 4cp like 3, 4 times in a row during flag
gusty mirage
Mutilating = 4cp like 3, 4 times in a row during flag
I’ll give you that, that’s actually so satisfying
shadow tulip
Mutilating = 4cp like 3, 4 times in a row during flag
AGREED
limber lion
I also apparently can't differentiate between your and you're today
normal mist
You had that wrote before i posted xDD
limber lion
strike 2
limber lion
FoK is terrible
shadow tulip
Should work like shurikan storm
sand sigil
dude i have this dilemma every time i play sin
gusty mirage
Every time you press fok you want to punch your monitor? Cuz same
sand sigil
where my brain wants to say ok i'm just literally going to fok any time i'm on 3t and like i'll just crit surely right?
and then i think well what if i don't crit
and then i say nahhhhh i'm a pretty lucky guy
and then i don't crit
gusty mirage
3 foks later James is sitting at 3cp just staring at his monitor like “dude wtf”
marble hemlock
yeah on 3t i just mut>fok if its a 3cp mut, or mut>finish if its 4cp or mut>mut if the first one was 2cp
i dont think id like that, honestly, cev
normal mist
That face, getting 1 Cp in a aoe fok
marble hemlock
just remove the crit dependancy of the cp gen for assa entirely
gusty mirage
But seal fate is iconic
marble hemlock
instead make fok generate extra CP when hitting a target which has both an active rupture and garrote
normal mist
imagine if you could fok - rup - fok - rup - fok - rup
We can't cev, that is what we call fun around here
glass tulip
the designer can seal these nuts on his chin
slow marsh
Just change seal fate to something else with crit and not resource generation
limber lion
instead make fok generate extra CP when hitting a target which has both an activ...
that would require too much computing power
we ain't got the technology
limber lion
wtf
gusty mirage
we ain't got the technology
True
marble hemlock
if you wanted 4cp every fok
limber lion
it's like I'm typing on an phone with autocorrect on
marble hemlock
or just make it rupture or garrote for consistent 5 or even 6cp foks once youve ramped up
limber lion
but I'm the one that's dumb
gusty mirage
The tech just isn’t there seli
Just like it’s impossible for them to tune pve and pvp separately
marble hemlock
stop lying
bleak sky
i'll pay you to take it
shadow tulip
XD
marble hemlock
just getting max cp every finisher is kinda boring
normal mist
Yes
bleak sky
doesn't fuck you over like fok
gusty mirage
The best part of fok is the 1997 graphic style daggers that fly out
marble hemlock
might as well remove CP as a resource
marble hemlock
best era of rogue gameplay was having inconsistent CP gen but having anticipation so overcapping wasnt an actual issue
change my mind
shadow tulip
So true
bleak sky
You’re visually throwing out like 30 daggers, getting 1cp
they all missed the targets because you suck at aiming loser 
gusty mirage
One shotting clothies in vanilla with cold blood ambush
marble hemlock
bleak sky
cold blood is a 1 mana +2 attack; combo: +4 attack
what are you talking about oxi
let's get you home grandpa
gusty mirage
cold blood is a 1 mana +2 attack; combo: +4 attack
What the fuck does this even say
marble hemlock
blasting some emo rock or metalcore while you did it as well, eh?
gusty mirage
Can I get a translation?
bleak sky
it's hearthstone 
gusty mirage
blasting some emo rock or metalcore while you did it as well, eh?
I didn’t need to be personally attacked on the start of my 4 day weekend
marble hemlock
true, its a flatrate
marble hemlock
🎯
glass tulip
I heard oxi is taking 14 days PTO for race to world first with <anvil gaming>
gusty mirage
Nah I’m not good enough for them
sand sigil
Anvil x Anduin
marble hemlock
like theyre done after 14days
hollow river
The best part of fok is the 1997 graphic style daggers that fly out
They are kunai knives ok get it right pls
hollow river
bleak sky
watch out james they're coming for Liquid
marble hemlock
nice weeb lore
glass tulip
if I dont get a merch bundle I dont wanna join
hollow river
How does it feel to know assa rogues are just Naruto
gusty mirage
marble hemlock
can the weebs please leave the room while the adults are talking
hollow river
I don’t see any adults
marble hemlock
weebs can go there
gusty mirage
Refunds and generates CP properly now
So it’s not complete shit now
Just partial kaka
Wtb double bonespike cleave like we originally had before outlaw ruined it for us
marble hemlock
im just glad sbs works with 2pc
rotund oak
yo we didnt ruin anything
marble hemlock
both on the initial and dot
now just make it work with zoldyck too
and we golden
gusty mirage
It working with the 4pc is kinda neat too
rotund oak
ive already went and bought a ring,jammed crit/haste on it
for dusk
assa looks rly fun on 9.2
and the TO windows ❤️
marble hemlock
nightfae scum
rotund oak
i hate NF
its just stronger
im metaslaving
ild legit press the nuclear button to erase them
marble hemlock
cant wait for the first assa kills to be as necro, not fae
hard coping on 100% field of blossom uptime sims
zinc frost
bleak sky
necro can legit be strong for assa
it's strong on 4pc single leggo
and that's it
maybe pantheon but
marble hemlock
its not even that far ahead
for being only good on st
and requiring stationary fights
timid cloud
bleak sky
it's hard to be strong with a useless leggo
timid cloud
Not getting gaslit into NF
rotund oak
true sry
sand sigil
it's hard to be strong with a useless leggo
there's still 14* days of raiding without 2 legendaries 😉
gusty mirage
According to zeratule yeah
sand sigil
but u didn't hear that from me
marble hemlock
thats fucking pog
spice spire
Seli about to become a true OTP
marble hemlock
giving me a woodie like that oxi 
gusty mirage
thats fucking pog
spice spire
And that OTP is emeni
rotund oak
but u didn't hear that from me
Fury James confirmed
sand sigil
cant wait for all the disappointed nightfae copers
RT
bleak sky
there's still 14* days of raiding without 2 legendaries 😉
o yea I'm sure you'll have a pog time as necro sin for rwf
timid cloud
bleak sky
like legit good
rotund oak
sacrilege
gusty mirage
i still havent done kyrian
Unfortunate, sub pvp requires it
sand sigil
o yea I'm sure you'll have a pog time as necro sin for rwf
it's not that good lolol settle down now
timid cloud
ER is dead in the water.
marble hemlock
oh man, i wanted to play sub pvp so bad
timid cloud
Leave it there.
marble hemlock
now i cant
bleak sky
went too hard on the hopium mb
marble hemlock
what a shame
timid cloud
marble hemlock
spice spire
Assassination is about to crank in pvp
You can crank me any day, buddy
gusty mirage
And outlaw is just sad in the corner wishing it was a warrior spec
9.2 might be my favorite patch ever
marble hemlock
it is
vale marten
are there any tricks with playing marked for death similar so sub lego changing or is it just 1 sec pre pull you use it and get slice?
hollow river
No tricks
spice spire
Prepull snd
marble hemlock
thats kinda the problem with outlaw isnt it
its trying to be a warrior spec in a rogue toolkit
hollow river
are there any tricks with playing marked for death similar so sub lego changing ...
No prepull slice and dice
vale marten
cool
hollow river
We want mfd for Flag
rotund oak
outlaw haters everywhere
hollow river
Only takes us 1 gcd to get slice rolling for the entire fight
spice spire
Ackshually if you have a prepull timer of 20 seconds, mfd at the beginning and snipe a 1 CP SND it’s a trick 
willow eagle
its trying to be a warrior spec in a rogue toolkit
Hm?
gusty mirage
Ackshually if you have a prepull timer of 20 seconds, mfd at the beginning and s...
You played venthyr for like 13 minutes, stop pretending you used mfd
spice spire
You played venthyr for like 13 minutes, stop pretending you used mfd
Nah I ran Zoldyck’s tho so like
Never lucky
sand sigil
my fav thing is going to be seeing what everyone comes up with
all the covenant combos etc
marble hemlock
ill most likely start prog as necro
gusty mirage
Nah I ran Zoldyck’s tho so like
True. We did see a high IO sin rogue playing night fae and using fan of knives in ST
sand sigil
cuz the discord's always just say "oh it's x covenant cuz it sims 5 dps higher of course of course"
gusty mirage
Oh I didn’t mean to reply
sand sigil
but that misses the point a lot of the time
gusty mirage
Sorry @spice spire ily
spice spire
gusty mirage
cuz the discord's always just say "oh it's x covenant cuz it sims 5 dps higher o...
Yeah, and people think we’re trolling when we say you can play all 3 covenants and do just fine
marble hemlock
need flexibility during prog
gusty mirage
Idk
spice spire
I’d run NF because it’s different
sand sigil
well it's with sub as well
bleak sky
cuz the discord's always just say "oh it's x covenant cuz it sims 5 dps higher o...
like how we're probably be venthyr for M+ even though necro sims higher
sand sigil
everyone say kyrian sub etc etc
spice spire
Yeah, and people think we’re trolling when we say you can play all 3 covenants a...
Often accusing me of inting with Necrolord 
sand sigil
forget that door of shadows is an ability
gusty mirage
Often accusing me of inting with Necrolord <:Raisedeyebrowbutcat:915392618848997...
Yeah because I love you
spice spire
I actually like venthyr m+ quite a bit, seli.
gusty mirage
Double door on sylv was so useful
bleak sky
I mean it's not liike we're ditching crit
gusty mirage
And anyone arguing otherwise is lying to themselves
marble hemlock
yeah but you also liked necro when there was truly no reason to do so
bleak sky
we'll still run a decent amount
marble hemlock
so your tastebuds are kinda singed
spice spire
Pot calling the kettle black, eh?
gusty mirage
Seli switched venthyr before you did
spice spire
I know
gusty mirage
viscid spear
Gonna be weird doing all this content in the first month and a half as Venthyr and then switching to Fae.
spice spire
sand sigil
also another really weird thing to me is
sand sigil
ok so u have sub playing venthyr in m+
marble hemlock
necro on fort
rotund oak
forget that door of shadows is an ability
ye because without door kyrian doesnt sht on venthyr ST 😄
sand sigil
ok so u have sub playing venthyr in m+
and then ppl say well it's kyrian for raid
but like half the fking raid bosses are m+ bosses lmfao
bleak sky
yeah kyr is a very patchwerk thing right
gusty mirage
People just love pigeonholing themselves into shit for whatever reason
rotund oak
kyrian sub is MAD
bleak sky
like kyr sub is super fun
marble hemlock
necro is the most flexible cov and has actual usability on multitarget, and itll be the better choice for a lot of people until they get 4pc/double leggo, and even then necro aint far behind on pure ST either
rotund oak
in dance windows as well
bleak sky
but playing it on something like soulrender is lowkey inting right
sand sigil
but playing it on something like soulrender is lowkey inting right
yeh exactly
or like painsmith m
marble hemlock
gonna watch the nf rogues be sad in their field of blossoms 20y away from boss
gusty mirage
but playing it on something like soulrender is lowkey inting right
I mean it’s still playable, but yeah it’s less damage than venthyr on soulrender
sand sigil
venthyr is god tier on painsmith compared to kyrian
marble hemlock
and flag on assa feels awful in m+
gusty mirage
gonna watch the nf rogues be sad in their field of blossoms 20y away from boss
The 4pc snapshots haste
marble hemlock
even more so
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
and flag on assa feels awful in m+
Bro whoever told me getting 30 stacks as assassination in aoe is easy is getting their ass beat
sand sigil
gonna watch the nf rogues be sad in their field of blossoms 20y away from boss
hehehehe can't wait for the first nf sin rogues to pull up to heroic vigilant guardian and watch their blossomed mob die in 7 seconds and then they subsequently have to run half way across the map to go kill some random mob with 50k hp 
gusty mirage
That’s a god damn lie
I want to meet the person who’s critting every fok
Because they need to play the lotto
viscid spear
and flag on assa feels awful in m+
I love it in raid obviously, but I have to agree. Flag feels bad when you don't have MA and MfD.
spice spire
I want to meet the person who’s critting every fok
51% crit 1 CP foks 
gusty mirage
If you’re a Kevin fan, marileth fleshcraft lets you cheese mechanics
marble hemlock
hehehehe can't wait for the first nf sin rogues to pull up to heroic vigilant gu...
well at least they can soulshape there
gusty mirage
<:Kekw:626411240012644403>
You’ll be able to dump your extra charges on your run over dw
zDPS covenant legendary having ass
glass tulip
someone give me a countdown bro, new content when
spice spire
1 per extra charge 
glass tulip
gusty mirage
someone give me a countdown bro, new content when
Define content
glass tulip
ZM open
gusty mirage
Korthia 2.0 opens up Tuesday
spice spire
someone give me a countdown bro, new content when
5 days until dailies
12 until m+ and raid
hollow river
hehehehe can't wait for the first nf sin rogues to pull up to heroic vigilant gu...
First Strike 
glass tulip
5 days, isnt today friday?
glass tulip
Tuesday is 4 days away my guy
shadow tulip
You mean WEDNESDAY
glass tulip
Ive never had an issue on patch day
spice spire
Just planning appropriately
spice spire
Say you’re not on a high pop server without saying you’re not on a high pop server ig
hollow river
Ive never had an issue on patch day
shadow tulip
Medium here
hollow river
Lies
spice spire
I’m on a high pop as well 
glass tulip
I'll be on tich this time so ig we will see
spice spire
MG was less bad than a52
sand sigil
tich is pvpers so surely nobody logs in early on tuesday
limber lion
I remember on Shadowlands launch when Kazzak was entirely out for like 24 hours
glass tulip
Dratnos' guild will be the only people around
limber lion
Good times
shadow tulip
Still better then WOD 1st few days were
spice spire
hopefully all of us get better ranks this tier
No u papi
gusty mirage
Don’t worry @sand sigil I won’t log in Tuesday and let the liquid boys flood into Illidan
My one spot will be the difference 
sand sigil
Don’t worry <@!300159534981447690> I won’t log in Tuesday and let the liquid boy...
king
u can tell people u won the race to world first
shadow tulip
KEKW
gusty mirage
“Who’s oxi?”
spice spire
On jah
limber lion
I doubt it'll take much convincing
gusty mirage
True
glass tulip
lost ark 
bleak sky
poe 
limber lion
I know I'll be playing LA
shadow tulip
I don't like either of it. What am I? Hipster?
sand sigil
kinda bummed they nerfed the elegy trinket
imagine like 1k crit secondary on a trinket 
sand sigil
what's the sigil trinket?
rotund oak
hmmm
sand sigil
i thought rogue prolly use soleh and phial
rotund oak
phial gives 1.2k vers
bleak sky
yea whispyr profile has soleah
rotund oak
ye soleh
sand sigil
or fusion amp if u rlly need for the burst for something
rotund oak
u crazy
sand sigil
i mean
rotund oak
last tier
bleak sky
idk if the recent nerf on solea means anything but t28 still has it
but I doubt it was changed
sand sigil
u dont just get to wave a magic wand and get a 278 shadowgrasp or iqd lol
or a heroic jailer trinket etc
glass tulip
I had 252 iqd week 1 last tier so you just gotta be good
sand sigil
i did prog with a 233 ticking sack and a 233 phial lol so i could see fusion amp being ok in some places
glass tulip
faulty countermeasure probably wont be a necessity either because crit stacking wont be a thing
rotund oak
that sack trinket looks juicy
sand sigil
faulty countermeasure probably wont be a necessity either because crit stacking ...
yeh this one for sure done for
rotund oak
but ye countermeasure is gonna be huuge i think
glass tulip
not nearly as good as it was in SoD
sand sigil
i kinda want the weapon trinket to be sick
glass tulip
the who 
sand sigil
it says like summon a weapon or something
like u summon these random weapons
i think it's like dancing rune weapon type animation
the earthquake trinket looks kinda cool if it's good in m+
bad for raid tho
gusty mirage
Imma need more people to shit talk faulty so I can not spend all week in vault of the wardens
bleak sky
Imma need more people to shit talk faulty so I can not spend all week in vault o...
you know it's garbage
stop playing
but CoS ring tho
gusty mirage
you know it's garbage
proper summit
it says like summon a weapon or something
Don't want to spam links but if you search "acquired" on wowhead, you can see the buffs from the different weapons
gusty mirage
Frost set made it a 118 dps increase
bleak sky
I declare the trinket dead so we don't have to farm it
gusty mirage
sand sigil
just wait for bfa m+ and u gotta do shrine 
upbeat needle
just wait for bfa m+ and u gotta do shrine <:Deadge:939062505844637707>
shut the fuck up
gusty mirage
Yeah idc if it’s good or not. I can’t spend 15 days in vault again
gusty mirage
My mental health can’t handle it
spice spire
GCB a goat tho
glass tulip
since trinket sims are so volatile right now, how do we know when their sims are stable enough to think about what is actually good to use 
upbeat needle
NO BOON GAMING
upbeat needle
I’d farm spyglass
harlans
sand sigil
since trinket sims are so volatile right now, how do we know when their sims are...
well soleh and phial are safe farms i mean
sand sigil
u got nothin else to do all heroic week
glass tulip
phial is always a safe farm
sand sigil
and u know they're proven
gusty mirage
Yup yup
sand sigil
like soleh is just god tier ocular gland
gusty mirage
So you farm coral
I can just pull my old one out of the bank
sand sigil
the other stuff is just idk
upbeat needle
BRING BIKE BACK
sand sigil
if u get a trinket in raid ok cool it not oh well
upbeat needle
BIG FAN OF VROOM VROOM
glass tulip
you better be posting a yt video of tazavesh runs so we can learn the strats 
sand sigil
dude that dungeon is so fuckin hard idk
upbeat needle
Jpc world first +30 taza confirmed ?
spice spire
you better be posting a yt video of tazavesh runs so we can learn the strats <:L...
Don’t die, and do enough damage to beat the timer
spice spire
Ez strat
sand sigil
like we did a 20 taz and literally couldn't time it in full comms everything lol
full try hard
glass tulip
the pirate dragon is just so stupid every time
even at max gear we were gettin farmed
sand sigil
the trash in the first room lower on fort is unbelievable
sand sigil
there's like 20 casts idk how pugs gonna manage that
spice spire
Hope you like fish sticks friends
sand sigil
i think lower harder than upper tbh
upbeat needle
there's like 20 casts idk how pugs gonna manage that
they'll just say they need rogue bc meta and say "can u stun everything"
glass tulip
I love mobs that run away
spice spire
Lower’s trash density is super weird
And some of the bosses do seem kinda sus if you don’t just Zerg them
Like the menagerie 
upbeat needle
how the fuck do u do mail room
spice spire
Mailroom unironically easiest boss outside of first I feel
sand sigil
and tell the mage to stand in the purple circle
sand sigil
so'azmi and the last boss in upper are maybe coolest m+ bosses i've ever seen
upbeat needle
so'leah gonna be cancer on tyr
glass tulip
soazmi is the teleport one right?
sand sigil
where u soak the balls and stuff
sand sigil
soazmi is the teleport one right?
yeah
spice spire
Menagerie
glass tulip
best boss in there, actually engaging fight
bleak sky
teleport one you just drag it into a corner and kill it right
spice spire
I feel like that boss would suck balls on tyran
sand sigil
have u seen the grom video on soazmi
glass tulip
do you not soak your balls
sand sigil
that has to be the funniest shit i've ever seen
glass tulip
spice spire
sand sigil
the first time i saw it
gusty mirage
All I remember out of taz is that the mailroom boss was bugged so we got our healer to go dps and we zerged it
sand sigil
spice spire
All I remember out of taz is that the mailroom boss was bugged so we got our hea...
Mailroom ez
Legitimately just take the suitcases to the air vent and don’t destroy the floor
gusty mirage
that has to be the funniest shit i've ever seen
You ever see the video of him scarfing down almonds and getting his base capped in rbgs?
gusty mirage
Mailroom ez
Legitimately just take the suitcases to the air vent and don’t destr...
Yeah that fight didn’t work properly for the first 2 months
spice spire
Oh I know
gusty mirage
I did tazavesh once
spice spire
I did both and boy howdy it’s a fine fight
gusty mirage
For the achieve. And never went back
spice spire
I had to do carries 
glass tulip
that is the most 3head gameplay ive ever seen
sand sigil
that is the most 3head gameplay ive ever seen
it is actually one of the funniest vids i've ever seen
like everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong
glass tulip
he didnt ever look at where they go
sand sigil
and the ppl trying to backseat for him
spice spire
Work firewall 
glass tulip
just always steps in to the nearest one lol
glass tulip
wish you could just shadowstep
but then any movement would probably work to go through those walls
sand sigil
brazen zodiac
rock on
junior rampart
That PvP scene is so funny. Lol
upbeat needle
Bro grom’s the gift that keeps on giving
lmfaoooooooo
brittle jacinth
hello. is there a resource for the sin opener? went through pins but didn't see anything specific
brittle jacinth
ty
carmine token
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hard warren
Really love Sass rogue but everyone I know (Guild) is telling me to go sub for Mythic plus aoe. Feel like my damage is fine. Current method is prob outdated in aoe pulls. Open Garrote, Fan till max combo, Cross rupture high hp targets (Up to 3) spam envenom, Should I be using Crimson Tempest for keys? Should I have leggos for Sub & just deal with playing both specs?
glass tulip
First, dont ever say sass rogue ever again lol
hard warren
,<
glass tulip
if you arent using CT for keys you are trolling
open on any pull would be garrote garrote garrote garrote rupture or CT
and then yeah either keep rupturing as many targets as possible building with fok while keeping CT up or funneling onto a prio target
which is what sub is better for. Cleaner funnel and black powder does more damage usually than CT does
brazen zodiac
u cant tell me what to do mav
hard warren
Yea I already keep bleeds on as many targets as possible, But legit haven't touched CT & yea BP slaps
limber lion
Would recommend reading a guide or something
brazen zodiac
yeah one cev wrote is cursed
limber lion
ye
brazen zodiac
breaks ur computer when u open it weird stuff
probs him hacking tryna keep you from being the top rogue kinda shit
hard warren
read whispy stuff but only came back to wow few weeks ago from last playing legion
glass tulip
very different from legion lol
brazen zodiac
oh boy oh boy do i got some news for you gamer tamer
spice spire
Dusk is only used with 4piece
rotund oak
Dusk is only used with 4piece <:starege:923197272064426075>
ofc it gets assa hardlocked with 4p
im just getting rdy prelaunch coz prices gonna skyrocket once 9.2 is out
so better give now 60k than 200k later
spice spire
But by then.. wouldn’t you want the highest level?
rotund oak
would i?
i think ild go for unity 1st
but ye i get ur point
to str8 craft the 291 one
hollow dirge
im just getting rdy prelaunch coz prices gonna skyrocket once 9.2 is out
So buy multiple if you’re sure of it and then have a free upgrade to r7 once you sell those extras
rotund oak
yeah thats what i had in mind and its literally 1 ring,cant rly hurt that much and ill most likely have my eyes on Unity 1st
since its the ''most value''
will be used across the speccs and for various content
glass tulip
as long as the pieces stay under 150k im good with whatever
rotund oak
ild be happy as well if they were that cheap
but whatever,gold is to be spend anyway,can always farm for more
gusty mirage
This was blizzard’s half assed attempt to make professionals “meaningful” again
glass tulip
yeah I have just enough that I can buy whatever i need for progression
within reason
gusty mirage
But then they put in those shards that cost like 12k gold per and require like 15 per leggo piece
glass tulip
just farm your own professions 4head
paper nacelle
be a goblin
gusty mirage
how are u guys making gold now that u cant freely go hc raid boosting anymore
I haven’t played much since the ban thankfully
sand sigil
i actually miss profession passives
gusty mirage
But uh
sand sigil
like the herb heal and skinning crit and stuff like that
gusty mirage
$20 to blizzard is probably going to be my method
sand sigil
that kind of grind is way more enjoyable than mf torghast for some reason
gusty mirage
like the herb heal and skinning crit and stuff like that
Yeah and the crafting profs had the cool buffs
echo geyser
pay2play
sand sigil
not sure if it's nostalgia or why that is
glass tulip
how are u guys making gold now that u cant freely go hc raid boosting anymore
I freely hc boost raids
echo geyser
with ur guild?
glass tulip
yes...
gusty mirage
<:disapawnted:821046992431087616> pay2play
Bruh I ain’t about to grind 20 hours a week for gold
echo geyser
Bruh I ain’t about to grind 20 hours a week for gold
yeah this ban messed up
glass tulip
I would call it on on realm community of friends
upbeat needle
Bruh I ain’t about to grind 20 hours a week for gold
big facts
boosting ban is stupid only ppl who cried about it were people who it didn't affect change my mind
sand sigil
ram don't u have infinite gold from r1 boosts anyways
gusty mirage
Maybe my guild sells carries, but even then who’s going to buy from wr 743 when you have Liquid, BDGG, DMG, iKTB and like 20 others on the server
spice spire
yeah this ban messed up
Depending on realm (I don’t really know EU realms) maybe your guild could sell guild@runs?
glass tulip
not even a boosting ban, just escrow communities
echo geyser
i still see boosting posts in trade chat
gusty mirage
Unfortunate
glass tulip
that is the only thing it was supposed to stop, boosting isnt illegal;
spice spire
Demand right now is pretty low tbf
gusty mirage
Yeah it’s just back to shit posting in trade now
glass tulip
as long as you are participating, and getting paid directly by the buyers or the RL then you can do whatever you want
spice spire
What are you boosting currently?
gusty mirage
And that one dude selling 2s carries lmao
echo geyser
ram don't u have infinite gold from r1 boosts anyways
yeah but i have stuff i wanna buy so i actually dont 
glass tulip
selling +20s will be the most profitable in early patch, by far
glass tulip
especially for you guys, James and Ram
spice spire
+20s and heroic boosting will be big early
sand sigil
yeah but i have stuff i wanna buy so i actually dont <:kekdog:907207037757296710...
a reason to join method raid roster
echo geyser
raid boosting seems a lot harder tho
spice spire
Because you can’t funnel tier sets unless you already have that version
gusty mirage
James hook it up with some okayish tanks in the 2700-2800 rio range that you played with. It’s rough out here bro
echo geyser
weekly hc clear + get paid
gusty mirage
Had a 2900 io prot pally almost int a key for me last week
spice spire
before it was just plug n play rly
It definitely is more difficult
glass tulip
James hook it up with some okayish tanks in the 2700-2800 rio range that you pla...
just get george, that dude is the homie
spice spire
Because if you guild clear you have to organize yourself
paper nacelle
wish blizz had GGG approach to player market sometimes
spice spire
just get george, that dude is the homie
glass tulip
gusty mirage
<:georgeStare:898620929796616223>
Does your doggo tank keys?
glass tulip
not that george
gusty mirage
spice spire
Does your doggo tank keys?
Bro I wish
cerulean junco
I found a guy offered to pay 600k per key for untimed 20/21s 9.2
spice spire
He’s thick af
echo geyser
george
spice spire
Bet he could tank anything
gusty mirage
I found a guy offered to pay 600k per key for untimed 20/21s 9.2
Bruh my friend got paid out 800k per timed 20 last night
cerulean junco
Sheeeshq
spice spire
How
glass tulip
yep, easily over 1 mil on new patch
cerulean junco
Ez money
echo geyser
spice spire
Ahhhhh
spice spire
I thought you meant per key
gusty mirage
Nice chunk of change
spice spire
gusty mirage
Yeah you can prolly make some good gold rn
Last minute rush to get portals
For some odd reason
echo geyser
gotta talk to the team to see how early we can get in on that juice
how are u even getting buyers
glass tulip
trade chat baby
cerulean junco
^
cerulean junco
Yeah it’s old school lol
glass tulip
post it every couple minutes and people hit up the dms
gusty mirage
Can’t spam though 
echo geyser
i guess we go back in time
gusty mirage
I think if you spam sale adverts it can be? I didn’t think so
glass tulip
is spamming in trade chat bannable?
no.
gusty mirage
get kilterdk to tank your keys
Who
glass tulip
spamming spamming, maybe. but in trade chat it is all legal
if you post in lfg that is offensable
gusty mirage
Ye like if you’re flooding it it’s not kosher
But every minute or so should be fine
glass tulip
you hop back and forth between oribos / orgrimmar
people are lazy and want to spend gold
echo geyser
i think i bought some bracelets for the event
gusty mirage
Naw trade is universal
echo geyser
and i was in org, but the guy was in oribos
glass tulip
why do people talk in trade and then complain that there are ads there
that is what /1 is for
gusty mirage
It even hits the great seal, the dalarans, your garrison
glass tulip
bleak sky
. /2 TRAMP DID NOTHIN WRONG
glass tulip
put up a ramfam NFT and its already bought
gusty mirage
Wts this NFT pst
tight ginkgo
RamCoin
glass tulip
/w oxii-illidan 2.6m
gusty mirage
/w oxii-illidan 2.6m
I’ll pay YOU 5m for it
glass tulip
!
glass tulip
we already shook on it, pay up
gusty mirage
glass tulip
I'll sign a contract that voids it if I get to sleep big spoon to you and whispyr
glass tulip
🤝
gusty mirage
🤝
late birch
Has anyone tried playing MA in keys? actually feels pretty good
balmy condor
Yeah but damage bad
spice spire
Yes and it’s fine, but it’s less damage overall
limber lion
Spending 4 seconds of the MA applying 4 garrotes
doesn't sound too great
And the MFD CT build is cringe
balmy condor
Spending 4 seconds of the MA applying 4 garrotes
Not if you afk in stealth though
spice spire
Wait MA talent or legendary?
balmy condor
late birch
Talent
limber lion
oh
late birch
Fok, CT, FoK
limber lion
Not if you afk in stealth though
balmy condor
Ma talent is whack but I can’t argue that it’s fine to run
late birch
going to try it with DS leggo now
balmy condor
And I hate that
gusty mirage
Not if you afk in stealth though
I wish you'd afk with me in stealth
late birch
dont question it
spice spire
going to try it with DS leggo now
Don’t do that
limber lion
had me in the first half
late birch
just help me believe
spice spire
Only villains do that
balmy condor
I’m not questioning it
limber lion
next you'll say you're going Mikanikos
balmy condor
I’m just crying and shitting in the club
late birch
playing Korayn 😄
balmy condor
Oh god
echo geyser
💀
limber lion
oh boy
balmy condor
Let me get crit to overcap my crit
limber lion
man's the king of handicapping yourself
balmy condor
limber lion
add all the wheelchair things together
spice spire
Yeah first strike + MA seems slightly int ngl
balmy condor
What level keys are you doing?
balmy condor
Oh thank god
spice spire
Oh it’s fine you’re chuckling
balmy condor
I won’t see you in my pugs
bleak sky
I won’t see you in my pugs
yeah 15 too high for you
balmy condor
bleak sky
spice spire
I won’t see you in my pugs
That’s toxic
spice spire
What’s a tormenter
Me to @gusty mirage
gusty mirage
Me to <@!192059095279337473>
spice spire
late birch
Does CT, MA, Korayn, Zoldy atleast sound better?
limber lion
No
Korayn is legit useless there
Because you overcap
CT is a given, you always run CT
late birch
Ye, then do I just switch to subt?
limber lion
Yes
It is the optimal NF setup if you just switch out that talent
Switch it to MA and suddenly it doesn't work
late birch
feels awkward when trying to add more garrotes with vanish because normally mobs almost dead already So feels like im holding vanish forever
and scared to use it really
late birch
holu p
limber lion
the damage is very underwhelming
You can literally hold it forever and ever
and only use it whenever you need more interrupts/silences/cc
late birch
ive been hating myself for not using vanish more for empowered garrotes
been only used for bosses mostly
limber lion
Yeah, doesn't really matter honestly
It's very very minimal
In fact, never using stealth in a dungeon
is completely fine as well
I mean, feels awful and isn't optimal
but the dps difference ain't as big as you'd think
late birch
Im really not sure if you're memeing at this point
late birch
isnt subt garrote your highest dps end of dungeon
limber lion
Im really not sure if you're memeing at this point
I'm not.
limber lion
isnt subt garrote your highest dps end of dungeon
It is not
Not even close
This is not BFA 8.3
spice spire
Subt garrote is like top 3 for me
late birch
I honestly havent been playing assa in dungeons
spice spire
Usually CT topping
late birch
so im really not sure
limber lion
It's not Subt Garrote that's top 3
it's garrote
You use Garrote on bosses and everything
on cooldown
a lot
spice spire
If I run MA garrote isn’t top 3 though
bleak sky
limber lion
If I run MA garrote isn’t top 3 though <:PepeHands:471871740381888522>
yeah because you get less garrotes
bleak sky
spice spire
It’s still top 5.
But yeah it’s not specifically because I’m constantly popping shit. It’s because there’s more passing through
limber lion
it's not about being empowered or not
spice spire
Yeah yeah
limber lion
it's about getting more garrotes
there is no difference between empowered and non-empowered garrotes in logs/details
late birch
I mean, running Subt in a dungeon and dont and compare garrote damage
bleak sky
ive been hating myself for not using vanish more for empowered garrotes
you do vanish for extra garrotes / single or two target for the ambush / silences when needed
late birch
is how you can check the difference no?
limber lion
I mean, running Subt in a dungeon and dont and compare garrote damage
Did you not read what I literally just said
bleak sky
not running subterfuge is inting honest to god
spice spire
Tl;dr on my point, verbiage was bad.
More garrotes = more garrote damage
Empowered or not is irrelevant it will always do more with subt because you do more
limber lion
You literally get 4 garrotes instead of 1
of course it's going to do a lot more damage
but it's not about it being empowered
bleak sky
more garrotes = more energy = more damage
late birch
yeah I get you now
limber lion
it's about having more garrotes
late birch
my bad
spice spire
not running subterfuge is inting honest to god
Shouldn’t have ran it in our 15 we ran together tbh
limber lion
of course you do more damage when you use it on 5 targets
late birch
You comparing the damage difference to applicatoins of garrote
which is obviously much more
spice spire
Since trash fell over I’d often just hit 3 people, CT and pack died
limber lion
spice spire
And then
late birch
I meant the application of garrotes is more, thats why the damage would look higher
than not running subt
right
bleak sky
it don't matter
limber lion
wut
when you use subterfuge
you use more garrotes
which means more garrote damage
if you use ma
you increase the crit chance of all damage
late birch
ye
gusty mirage
yeah because you get *less* garrotes
wild
limber lion
Idk
gusty mirage
so what you're saying is we cast something less it does less damage?
spice spire
Think the English is a bit off
late birch
I've been fixated on the damage aspect when its more the amount of applications that makes talent good
limber lion
:O
limber lion
I've been fixated on the damage aspect when its more the amount of applications ...
Honestly
the thing that makes the talent good
gusty mirage
next you'll tell me if we talent into master poisoner our poison damage will be higher
limber lion
is the fact that it works with iron wire so well
gusty mirage
spice spire
next you'll tell me if we talent into master poisoner our poison damage will be ...
No shot
late birch
yeye
limber lion
like I said previously
like super minimal
You can do a sim yourself
where you remove the entire stealth line
so your character never goes into stealth
spice spire
wanna fight about it
Nah ur too cute for that 
rotund oak
are u passiveaggressivelly hitting on oxi?
spice spire
Oh there’s no passive here, buddy
rotund oak
😅
spice spire
gusty mirage
Oh there’s no passive here, buddy
spice spire
AYO?
cerulean nest
when do you vanish in a subt opener?
gusty mirage
as your empowered garrotes fall off
cerulean nest
so before the garrote following your last-gcd-of-vendetta garrote
limber lion
When the garrote enters pandemic
glass tulip
so like 14 seconds in or sumn
gusty mirage
When the garrote enters pandemic
^
limber lion
when do you vanish in a subt opener?
Is this in regard to 9.2 with tier set or?
gusty mirage
either let it fall off completely or when it hits pandemic
cerulean nest
yes 9.2
limber lion
because it changes things up slightly tbh
You want to use the second garrote a bit early so you can use a garrote at 7s
and a last one at 1s
of Vendetta
limber lion
You have to clip the first garrote ever so slightly
Still vanish normally
After first garrote
cerulean nest
gotcha
glass tulip
so you cut off an empowered garrote to get a full regular one in the vendetta snapshot
limber lion
You cut it off early so you get a garrote overhang
period
if you don't do that, you don't get to use the overhang
glass tulip
right
limber lion
Always have to use garrote at 7-8s before Vend ends
tight ginkgo
<a:sexfuck:928522486444863528>
what is this smut
limber lion
or it's gg