I might even do a DOS this week.
#assassination
timber gale
honestly I’ve just full stopped going ct in keys
And I’m still slapping
idk sin fun
normal mist
I might even do a DOS this week.
Did it yesterday :3
timid cloud
🧢
dark token
ToP maybe
oak sky
btw one of my guildies was hyped to see you in the dk disc
hes hoping unholy ends up tuned pretty well
i guess you gave him hope lol
dark token
Ct is my fav spell actually would take it on every boss if i could
maybe in 10.0 could be baseline would be cool
sub gets black powder 
normal mist
Poor guy just hoped in and got so much pressure already 
timber gale
I mean if I’m gonna play rogue in keys I’m gonna have fun w/ it - I only notice the difference in CT if it’s really big pulls & fort. but anything below that is just like, why not spam PB anyways
dark token
i like it with the zoldyck legendary for phat bleeds
timber gale
It’s just more annoying to maintain than anything
slow marsh
PB is really nice when it procs on big pulls, it's just the rng of it feels bad vs CT
timid cloud
I wish it lasted longer tbh.
normal mist
Legion PB
slow marsh
If CT gave energy it wouldn't be so bad. But like yeah I understand the feeling of not wanting to press it
timid cloud
CT lasting for like 5 seconds while I’m doing some ruppys feels like shit lol.
That too.
timber gale
yeah, I feel like I’m just FOK -> rupturing enough that I’m PBing a lot anyways
balmy condor
The best idea I’ve heard about Ct energy
dark token
legion PB was hilarious i had this log in nighthold
timid cloud
To get like 9 ruptures.
balmy condor
Isnt making CT give energy
slow marsh
here comes whispyr and his rework doc
timid cloud
How about making FOK not be dogshit?
balmy condor
But instead making poisons the trigger for venomous
timid cloud
Like Sub...
dark token
fok is nice wdym
balmy condor
Like poison ticks to bleeded enemies rather than bleed ticks to poisoned enemies
timber gale
Yeah it’s more like - I put so much effort into fdk I sort of figured if I’m gonna play sin I’m gonna do it to learn more organically & not swear hyper optimizing
slow marsh
i'm down for that actually. poison should be the thing to give energy imo
timid cloud
You mean Echoing Blades?
dark token
yeah edited
dark token
bfa actually best sin iteration imo
we had shrouded suffication which was super fun to play
normal mist
Kingsbane -> shiv please?
dark token
and echoing blades to have some actual aoe in the spec
normal mist
I loved kingsbane man
timid cloud
Yeah, 3 EB, 3 SS, see you later.
balmy condor
Idk kingsbane kinda overrated imo
timid cloud
Kingsbane was whatever.
balmy condor
It’s just shiv but 45 seconds and longer
dark token
you just pressed it and damage happened?
timid cloud
But it was strong.
balmy condor
Yeh
Pretty much
It ramped damage on poison damage during it
So it was like a reverse sepsis+conduit
Where the big damage was at the end
Rather than the start
timid cloud
Along with a PB proc see ya later.
timber gale
hmmm when was sin probably the most broken in history
balmy condor
8.3
timid cloud
Uhhhh technically I’d say NYA or sometime in Wrath.
timber gale
I kept looking at classic and tbc but it didn’t seem to be the best? Otherwise I might have tried those
dark token
i havent played before WoD but
timid cloud
Cause let’s be real. BFA was not strong for Sin for a long time.
dark token
it seemed very strong in trial of valor
balmy condor
I had a pull in 8.3 where I hit 307% haste and pressed Exsang
dark token
with the agonizing poison build
dark token
I had a pull in 8.3 where I hit 307% haste and pressed Exsang
yeah but compare it to the mages or warlocks in nyalotha
timid cloud
You can’t, because they were a different class.
balmy condor
Like Just huge damage for free
timid cloud
BM just shit on everything.
Like sure Rogue was strong for a few seconds in massive pulls....
balmy condor
Side question is there any way to get rid of the bar that says blocked messages
timid cloud
But BM & Mages? Entirely different level.
balmy condor
Cause it’s really annoying
timber gale
If you find out lmk
ashen scroll
sub rogue looked sad af down there
timber gale
Anyways it sounds like wrath then ??? Then 8.3
slow marsh
dang blocked messages. is that how i make you feel
timid cloud
Day 400 wondering if Whispyr is talking about me...
I guess I’ll just unfollow him on everything...
balmy condor
Anyways it sounds like wrath then ??? Then 8.3
Wrath then like early legion agonizing then 8.3 sounds about right
timid cloud
Dang shame...
timber gale
Which may be some recency bias but yeah; I raided a lot in wrath but clearly played dk and was also a literal child so I didn’t think a lot about other classes
dark token
8.3 we felt good but other specs like mage/warlock just were a lot better
balmy condor
Yeah spriest has been bordering on crazy for like 2 expacs now
They’re like always 1 inch away from op
slow marsh
yeah
timid cloud
They’re in the same boat as we are though.
balmy condor
It’s really weird
timid cloud
AOE linked to a talent.
dark token
i heard rogues were op in dragon soul with the cataclysm legendary daggers
but i dont see any log stats and dont know what spec it was
timid cloud
I remember it vaguely.
I didn’t ever finish mine.
Didn’t have a good enough guild.
junior rampart
Combat
timid cloud
That’s when we had that shit recoup ability.
balmy condor
I miss combat
timid cloud
Which part about it though?
dark token
the only thing cool about combat was insta toggle on/off of blade flurry no gcd
but we had that in legion outlaw too
idk what people liked about combat before that
balmy condor
idk what people liked about combat before that
I liked revealing strike holding for deep insight
And the no rng
It felt very controlled
dark token
if you remember that meme sinester strike build in bfa with snake eyes conduit or whatever
thats what combat felt like to me
that build was 5xSS -> snd with no dispatch ever
normal mist
Can you remind me what snake eyes did? I forgot lol
balmy condor
Can you remind me what snake eyes did? I forgot lol
Slice increased sinister strike damage
And it was overtuned to shit
normal mist
Hunger for blood was in the assassination tree at the end of it right?
balmy condor
It was like slice increases the next 5 sinister strikes
normal mist
It was like slice increases the next 5 sinister strikes
What a nice and fun game play- ssx5 > snd repeat
dark token
0 rng consistent rotation
Ignore all stuff you don't need like pistol shots and combo points
slow marsh
wrath combat rogue when you literally either maintain rupture or spam evis but not both
talk about gameplay
steep sundial
as a first legendary for assa, should I go with Zoldyck or Doomblade, I mostly like to raid but M+ too.
slow marsh
Hunger for blood + tricks damage amps op @ scari
slow marsh
as a first legendary for assa, should I go with Zoldyck or Doomblade, I mostly l...
Probably obedience
balmy condor
as a first legendary for assa, should I go with Zoldyck or Doomblade, I mostly l...
Obedience is the overall
steep sundial
oh it's for Venthyr, I am playing Necrolord
slow marsh
Well then enjoy it while it lasts I suppose
balmy condor
Then probably zold, or not necro
fallen fable
Hows assasination standing with dps in ptr rn? Rogue overall. Tried to read some logs but couldnt find too much rogues to figure it.
slow marsh
it's about where it's expected to be for now
fallen fable
I have no idea whats everyone expecting, im expecting it will blast like now 😅
silver turtle
If your group has plenty of AOE is it troll to spec single target for tyrannical. I don’t care about overall numbers. Just dungeon efficiency. And they think it’ll be best if I was ST. I just don’t know
balmy condor
Depends what going single target means
violet hemlock
No reason, not to take ct as its p much neutral in st
silver turtle
Whatever talents the faq say for single target
balmy condor
Yeah that’s troll
Don’t do that
Just take obedience and chill
Obedience is all the single target you need
violet hemlock
Ye obedience is good boss dmg
silver turtle
They say we have a ww monk and a frost mage so the aoe is pointless for me and that they want all the single target I can give
hollow river
^
silver turtle
Yea I know, anyway you can kinda say why do I can relay the info to them so they can understand
hollow river
Do they play rogue because it doesn’t sound like it 
drifting cloud
the talents will make you do 20% more dmg in aoe and 3% less dmg on st
balmy condor
^
hollow river
Because there’s no sense in gimping your damage for every dungeon
For a tiny bit more ST
balmy condor
It’s not worth losing 1000 overall dps for 100 less single target
fallen fable
Yeah ur main CDs are ST no matter waht
balmy condor
That’s slowing down the key
hollow river
Exactly
silver turtle
Yea I think they thought the gaps were bigger
Myself included
This will help but time. 20% isn’t worth 3% gain
balmy condor
CT is like 0.5% behind PB in single target
violet hemlock
Rogue just always does good st
balmy condor
Subterfuge is maybe 1.5% behind in single target
violet hemlock
Talent independent
balmy condor
Obedience is better single target than dashing in keys
oak sky
aight brb doing a venom rush key
hollow river
violet hemlock
Les go.
bronze pike
silver turtle
Is sin the best spec for single target and aoe combined for us?
balmy condor
Sub is generally stronger
hollow river
No
balmy condor
But if you have to ask that question, you don’t play at a level where it matters
silver turtle
I’ve just always only played sin for prob 10 years
fallen fable
Probably up to 23-24 keys it doesnt matter
hollow river
25-26s tbh
silver turtle
Was wondering if branching out would be worth. We’re doing like 21s rn. Took a break after nathria and just started playing last month so just trying to catch back up
hollow river
Should definitely be doable as sin if you’d rather play sin
violet hemlock
Sub also has the benefit of being able to watch netflix while doing ur aoe.
silver turtle
Haha it’s that easy?
hollow river
If you’re not comfortable with sub that’s just going to make the push keys harder
silver turtle
Yea true. Prob just better off sticking to something I know best
violet hemlock
Ye, its easy but its def still some getting used to.
cyan kite
With dashing frost set is it worth maintaining CT dot in single target scenarios?
balmy condor
The CT single target line says “if you don’t have dashing OR you have frost set equipped”
I guess it’s worth using with frost
But that seems weird to me
The line in the past has required non-dashing
Maybe koji found something
I don’t remember that line changing
slow marsh
subtle kiln
1 minute sim?
balmy condor
I mean yeah that’s stupid but it doesn’t change the fact that the line is triggering for some reason
But I trust that the line got changed for a reason
subtle kiln
was trying to sort context of the length. just waking up
versed mica
But that seems weird to me
Maybe multiple ticks of CT crits store more frost set damage than one envenom crit?
So it ends up being more frost set damage or something
Assuming you can get multiple CT ticks in the same time it takes to cast another envenom
oak sky
the thing about envenom is that it plays into frost set with dashing by increasing poison crit
but who knows man
versed mica
well it was mentioned that if no dashing its still best for frost
at least thats what i got from it
quasi ledge
Well for a 1 min fight, or at least during CDs you can keep Envenom up while fitting in a CT easily enough. Just bonus damage for frost set while you're still keeping the crit chance from Envenom going
oak sky
ct has been better than envenom in st when you have it talented the whole time
it was just dashing that made stuff a little different
wind hull
!guide
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hollow river
it was just dashing that made stuff a little different
You still run mfd whenever you use ct in raid don’t you
hollow river
I tried it out but it just felt pepega to me idk
oak sky
its not like m+ level hectic having it tbh
stuff dies more evenly in raid so you only get a few resets
hollow river
Not in my raid lool
hollow river
Bro
I’ll look for a clip if I remember tonight
My raid can get pretty hectic on some fights lol
If one add doesn’t get CC broken, or if grips get scuffed, or a RoP is scuffed etcetcetc
1 or 2 adds live 5ever
gusty mirage
ct has been better than envenom in st when you have it talented the whole time
It was at best a minimal dps gain
oak sky
30>0
gusty mirage
Like you could just not CT at all in ST and it was irrelevant though
oak sky
were you not here for me simming sylv belt?
hollow river
Yeah I remember it being like 4 dps marginal type shit
hollow river
Guess what I found out when I simmed mythic sylv dagger last night guys
I forgot to enchant my sylv chest when I got it out of last weeks box
Like 200 dps was just missing
tight ginkgo
Oof
oak sky
<:Raisedeyebrowbutcat:915392618848997447>
oh it was a while ago
tight ginkgo
Similar feel: for last night's prog I spent first 5 pulls with double celestial guidance enchant
gusty mirage
oh it was a while ago
I don’t even remember yesterday 
hollow river
Oh I almost did that too I enchanted new dagger with 2nd celestial
Sim made me realize that too
oak sky
oh good vel is here to clown on me for it
arctic walrus
@oak sky should I log watch this morning or u had nothing to show for last night
oak sky
arctic walrus
Ayo
oak sky
nothing to show
we didnt even kill sylv
and if we had
it wouldve been with no warrior buff
wait
actually
log watch my guild
oak sky
check out the tarragrue kill
hollow river
log watch my guild
L@L
arctic walrus
Well if it’s any consolation I got clowned on when I asked for a log review, so there is something I’m not good at!
arctic walrus
Earlier this morning
I really was trash though and could tell what I was fuckjng up
Also was mainly focused on mechanics
hollow river
copper hazel
priest telling you to go read a holy book, adds up
hollow river
Vel gets dunked on in other spec channels
oak sky
aint no way they told THE velsp to read a guide
hollow river
So he has to come dunk on us. Circle of life
subtle kiln
I got told to read a guide LMAO
but did you read a guide?
hollow river
oak sky
Im gonna int raid so hard
hollow river
hollow river
Lol wtf
hollow river
No energy drinks?
oak sky
Too much work
hollow river
oak sky
I would barely ever need them
hollow river
Oh I always drink a Red Bull or somethin before/during raid
oak sky
Well im normally not hella tired
oak sky
Its when im under 5 or 6 hours that it gets bad
oak sky
My raid ends at 10 pst and my first class is normally at 12:30 pm pst
hollow river
I basically get 6 maybe 7 if I’m lucky everyday
oak sky
Wednesday is hard mode bc my sleep schedule is fucked from late clssses
subtle kiln
hollow river
subtle kiln
dumb guide writers
oak sky
It’s the guide writers fault not mine
I definitely remember their guide writer saying they have a busy aoe rotation when its literally cds then spamming 1 button
oak sky
What you studying?
Engineering planning to switch to biochem soonTM so im basically studying biochem
tight ginkgo
idk how people down energy drinks. they taste so awful. Just drink a black coffee and gg
hollow river
Lmfao
tight ginkgo
Bitter is a better taste than cloying
hollow river
Some energy drinks are goated
glass tulip
bean water enjoyer mfka
I just narrowly dodge mechanics and let the fear of failure keep me up
proven coyote
yo is council the only way to get our ST lego?
hollow river
Which leggo exactly?
midnight atlas
"energy" drinks 
glass tulip
but to answer your question, no it is not the only way
proven coyote
the dashing thingy
hollow river
You can get any leggo from korthia
glass tulip
or from your covenant hall
they both sell items that give you a random legndary memory you dont have yet
proven coyote
oh thank
glass tulip
"energy" drinks <:Kappa:675691839881216001>
sugar high for 30 minutes drinks
dark token
Just do lfr CN
hollow river
Can try LFR for Council but yeah
dark token
It doesn't take long
glass tulip
just do dailies / callings
midnight atlas
sugar high for 30 minutes drinks
how to clog your kidneys for feeling hyperactive
glass tulip
dark token
People still do lfr stuff for legos
glass tulip
yeah in the end going to the actual source will be faster
than trying for a chance at a random one if you are missing a bunch
midnight atlas
on my alts i just made a normal run, title it "transmog fast clear". We managed to clear CN normal in 6 ppl
midnight atlas
lfg goes faster than lfr
stuck beacon
maybe a stupid question but do you use arcane torrent as b11 for energy reg?
spice spire
As wat
But you would use it if there’s nothing else to do, because it is free energy
stuck beacon
cause .. in my world its only 15 energy and its a gc so.. i never used it (but now wow analyzer is complaning.. i knew i shouldnt trust this tool for 100% so thats why i asked)
cause i know how skilled and nice you are ❤️
spice spire
Wow analyzer is very sketch, but there’s often a window where you are waiting on energy anyway, so why not get some free regen? 🙂
stuck beacon
okay 🙂 ty!
strange python
How to pink guardian with no externals and sub 4 minute kill :(
gusty mirage
How to pink guardian with no externals and sub 4 minute kill :(
only thing I can think of is you hope rngesus blesses you with like 80%+ winds crits
strange python
Tragic
I've got a handful of 98s that I want to up to pinks but we don't have a druid or priest atm
limber lion
I've got a handful of 98s that I want to up to pinks but we don't have a druid o...
if you're getting 98's
you'll eventually hit the jackpot
and get a 99
you don't need external filth on your page to get that
strange python
I got 1 winds crit on remnant. One.
I think we're done after next week. We've been farming for 15 weeks
limber lion
I played an insane Remnant last week
And it was only a 97
because Winds crit for 33% of the time
Not a big fan of having to rely on a random damage proc
Glad it's gone in 9.2
spice spire
Work, always
strange python
because Winds crit for 33% of the time
I feel. When I saw 10% crit and my base crit being 49 I cried
brazen zodiac
i put a little too much salt in my eyes 
brazen zodiac
I feel. When I saw 10% crit and my base crit being 49 I cried
hey how do u check this?
strange python
I wish I could track specific phase damage too. Like p3 sylv. Genuinely curious what kinda dam is going out
brazen zodiac
like ur winds procs
strange python
Logs and details tells you when the winds blowup crits or hits
brazen zodiac
rad thx
strange python
So in cevs pic one of the columns shows crit%
ashen oriole
Whats the avg Flag stacks you should be able to get as assa?
limber lion
Honestly doesn't matter
ashen oriole
im getting like 20 and it feels bad
limber lion
But during lust and with cds it's usually around 27-30, without lust and just flag it should be around 19-24
So long as you just press it just before a finisher and save your MFD for every Flag window, that's all there is to the ability
ashen oriole
MFD?
ashen oriole
Im playing DS, that might be the issue
ashen oriole
brazen zodiac
ds kinda based
ashen oriole
i think I read it somewhere
limber lion
Yeah
You should either get your rogue information from here in the discord because all the information is up to date
Or by looking at logs
limber lion
Guess it hasn't been updated
ashen oriole
oups?
limber lion
But always, always look at logs
ashen oriole
limber lion
You won't find a single person playing BS/DS
ashen oriole
this discord has always been my prime source
limber lion
You might find a few if you open up Guardian
But even then it's the minority
Highly recommend looking at logs everytime you're trying to figure out conduits, covenants, legendaries and talents
BS/DS is the best single target setup for many profiles, even now
subtle kiln
then filter out all the external logs
limber lion
But it just doesn't work well in the raid.
And at this point with higher gear, EP/MFD usually pulls ahead
subtle kiln
mfd nadjia now my highest. lol
vestal wren
tbh its a good question, it seems not obviouse for ppl new to the spec
ashen oriole
@limber lion conduit/soulbinds I got this for the time being:
limber lion
Yeh looks good
ashen oriole
with mfd i actually was able to get 25stacks on flag in the opener at dummy
sims are telling me EP/MFD -82 DPS
i guess cant rely on sims that much then
brazen zodiac
hey cev, sometimes i use mfd to get an extra envenom in over using it on an add is that troll
limber lion
sims are telling me EP/MFD -82 DPS
But that's because it sims a 5 min patchwork fight
The raid is not a 5 min patchwork fight
All encounters have some sort of downtime, movement, shenanigans, intermission or whatever
Guardian is the closest thing to a patchwork fight we have in this tier, that's why you sometimes see people playing BS/DS there
But again, your talent choices and whatnot might change with gear as well
I highly recommend to just sticking to EP/MFD or EP/Vig
normal mist
5 timed 20's, 3 to go my friends!
limber lion
hey cev, sometimes i use mfd to get an extra envenom in over using it on an add ...
I don't understand the question
brazen zodiac
i figured
limber lion
Using it on an add means you get 2 envenoms
brazen zodiac
uh
limber lion
because you get a reset from the add
brazen zodiac
im referencing sylv where shiv's about to go on cd and mfd just comes up so i slam it to get one more in
brazen zodiac
vs using it on the 2 adds that spawn in p1
ashen oriole
Blindside is so fun though, why is EP pulling ahead in non-patchwork?
limber lion
If you have MFD ready during Flag, you press it during flag
brazen zodiac
mhm
limber lion
Sniping is always worth it, but it's not worth it delaying all or most of your abilities just to get add snipes
brazen zodiac
i see
limber lion
Easier and better to just send it on cd with Flag
ashen oriole
APL is not really trying to use it in flag is it?
woeful meteor
!oil
prisma monolithBOT
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arctic walrus
Yes my child advocate for the mfd 
limber lion
One MFD during Flag, the second MFD just whenever possible
The third MFD with Flag again
limber lion
I remember times when Night Fae was looked down on
vestal wren
9.2 is the time for nf to shine 👀
arctic walrus
I remember times when Night Fae was looked down on
Yep I too remember the present
limber lion
Yep I too remember the present
sore loser
arctic walrus
brazen zodiac
wasnt NF the best cov in the beginning of the xpac for rogue
limber lion
mfd scrub
limber lion
wasnt NF the best cov in the beginning of the xpac for rogue
technically at 31+ renown, yes.
brazen zodiac
rad
vestal wren
kyrian was very early on the best
brazen zodiac
shit lmfaooo
vestal wren
but nf did get ahead with higher renown levels
brazen zodiac
never played so never got to try kyrian sin
limber lion
good
vestal wren
not sure if kyrian was straight out better on sin, but sub/outlaw def.
brazen zodiac
cant grasp how it works
solid venture
brazen zodiac
soulshape rad
ashen oriole
and the cooldowns we press them as soon as they come up right?
limber lion
Sure
ashen oriole
Alrgihty thanks for the help
wind hull
!guide
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gusty adder
!tea
limber lion
!tea
profileset."primary"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=primary"
profileset."versatility"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=versatility"
profileset."crit"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=crit"
profileset."haste"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=haste"
gusty adder
thanks alot mate
limber lion
:')
spice spire
If you’re just doing a quick sim, the shadowlands.party_favor line is all you need. Profileset just names them
But Cev fastest fingers in the west
brazen zodiac
west? universe bro
spice spire
gusty mirage
But Cev fastest fingers in the west
true
man's a racecar typing
@limber lion I miss our wordracer days
limber lion
<@!165215952479322112> I miss our wordracer days
I've had pretty bad finger/arm/shoulder pain recently, gotta take it easy
can't go sicko mode on the keyboard
it's from playing the violin/viola though, not from actually typing
but smashing the keyboard like crazy doesn't help either
gusty mirage
cev's a trained classical musician
brazen zodiac
started as a hobby or
gusty mirage
oh thats pretty neat
ye not only is he really good at rogue and hot, he's talented af too
brazen zodiac
damn what a real ladys man
brazen zodiac
u can have him sir i already have a spicy spanish man with tarzan hair 😻
although cev somethin else tbh
shy dust
u can have him sir i already have a spicy spanish man with tarzan hair 😻
@soft shale
gusty mirage
brazen zodiac
LMFAO
limber lion
spice spire
BRO
gusty mirage
im fucking dying
hollow river
LOOOOOOOLLLLL
brazen zodiac
ashen oriole
!oil
prisma monolithBOT
Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ
brazen zodiac
i was refering to this but
marble hemlock
I wish you'd play the violin for me
i can play the worlds smallest violin for you
brazen zodiac
marble hemlock
gusty mirage
i can play the worlds smallest violin for you
marble hemlock
(thats not a good thing)
brazen zodiac
i bet u play it well
brazen zodiac
yeah and i bet u play it well!
limber lion
slay me
limber lion
I look like a baby fresh out of the womb compared to that thing
limber lion
not sure if man or nah
brazen zodiac
dude
ashen oriole
babies look ugly as fuck
some of them, you will totally feel different towards your own one day 🙂
brazen zodiac
some of them, you will totally feel different towards your own one day 🙂
hun im gettin them shits tied no baby is ever coming out of me
hollow river
do u have an alt
Sort of, not really at the same time though why wassup
ashen oriole
hun im gettin them shits tied no baby is ever coming out of me
fair, your choice 😄 probably for the better if you feel that way 😄
balmy condor
overpopulated as fuck i aint contributing to that
Yeah your mom really did a number didn’t she
brazen zodiac
yeah i have 5 siblings
hollow river
brazen zodiac
Sort of, not really at the same time though why wassup
just wanted to do a key trying to take another shot at 252 phial
ashen oriole
just wanted to do a key trying to take another shot at 252 phial <:kekw:61012592...
You will get it in 9.2
brazen zodiac
pfft
ashen oriole
also still in the waiting room for it
brazen zodiac
plz im gettin that shit when im 90
spice spire
2 tiers no phial
brazen zodiac
lmfao
i got the initial drop my first time doing plaguefall this tier but
no 252 :(
ashen oriole
its ridiculous, just let people upgrade to max ilvl?
limber lion
Never seen a single phial in a vault
And I spent over 3m gold to get a 246 one this tier
ashen oriole
phial in vault 
limber lion
And with boosting communities banned, I'm now poor
dense bramble
will valor be reseted when 9.2 lands?
brazen zodiac
callings are kinda ok but like 3-4k gold not a lot lold
ashen oriole
most certainly
it feels suboptimal to run with 246 phial and no legion TW BiS crap, probably because it is
hollow dirge
Never seen a single phial in a vault
Make raid trinkets great again
brazen zodiac
i thought the trinkets on ptr looked kinda nutty
i thought one gave like 700 crit unless i read it wrong
ashen oriole
idk its whatever to just get +dps through statbuff or some magic dmg. i would love to see something like CoF again..
marble hemlock
eh, legion tw doesnt really matter. by the time it would matter, better gear is out
brazen zodiac
idk what CoF is
marble hemlock
phial sucks cuz it matters for prog
its worse for casters, getting ruby week 1 or 2 is huge
balmy condor
idk what CoF is
CoF on deez nuts
ashen oriole
eh, legion tw doesnt really matter. by the time it would matter, better gear is ...
well its 208 dps, at this point i just want to be BiS so it matters
brazen zodiac
CoF on deez nuts
listen here ur really making me mad today!
with all ur epic fucking hilarious jokes! damnit whisp!
ashen oriole
balmy condor
listen here ur really making me mad today!
I love making women mad
It’s like I always say
Women mad cause women bad
And I definitely say that
All the time
brazen zodiac
dude women?
zzzz trash
who even letting me type tbh whisp u slacking mute me god
balmy condor
When’s the bug fix coming to make women just more men
bleak sky
Misogynistic shadowblades get gim banned lads
marble hemlock
Women mad cause women bad
is that why you aspire to be a femboy?
brazen zodiac
lmfaoo
balmy condor
is that why you aspire to be a femboy?
I am the true woman
ashen oriole
brazen zodiac
ashen oriole
balmy condor
That doesn’t prove much
spice spire
Damn
brazen zodiac
god damn
marble hemlock
whats the next level beyond that? Kissing in the subway when its not empty?
or just holding hands
spice spire
Holding hands before marriage? Good one pal
balmy condor
Holding hands before marriage? Good one pal
Facts
marble hemlock
stop being jealous just because youre taken already and cant date either of us
spice spire
It’s true 
brazen zodiac
not true
cmmon quakeroats
sometimes in life ur faced with tough choices...........
brazen zodiac
yes sir
subtle kiln
make it worth it and just go for Nova
spice spire
Name a sin CF that isn’t an eboy tho
balmy condor
bleak sky
Kick a tree on the internet and 20 whispyr will fall off
marble hemlock
this guy, Seliathan
spice spire
make it worth it and just go for Nova
This is actually kind of the play ngl
marble hemlock
cev aint an eboy either
spice spire
spice spire
You seen him stream?
subtle kiln
boost
marble hemlock
boost
spice spire
Pray your guild boosts or boost m+
marble hemlock
you can still boost, just gotta do the work yourself
bleak sky
Boost
marble hemlock
and advertise/collect yourself
bleak sky
./1 <vitalitas and friends> for all your m+ boosting needs
marble hemlock
you can also swap gold for a fee. its probably the most lucrative, provided you have a solid baseline of like 30-50mil. ill probably switch to that in the future
brazen zodiac
./1 <vitalitas and friends> for all your m+ boosting needs
works for me thx
brazen zodiac
Pray your guild boosts or boost m+
do u know if korthite crystals drop from the rare mobs
spice spire
They do not afaik
bleak sky
But they do drop from chests
spice spire
You can get them from chests and stuff tho from the covenant mobs
brazen zodiac
covenant mobs?
spice spire
The covenant korthia bosses that drop chests
bleak sky
Ye
grand ridge
What some people do to farm them is setting up an army of alts to do the daily quests that reward them
With all the skips in place it's easy to get an alt to that point
verbal gorge
guys hi!
i am new here in this discord and to rogue aswell, as im levelling one and having so much fun with assassination!
i was wondering: does the last row third talent contribute to that passive that allows me to generate energy?
limber lion
guys hi!
i am new here in this discord and to rogue aswell, as im levelling one ...
Crimson Tempest does not work with Venomous Wounds.
Only Rupture and Garrote do. (And Kidney Shot, if talented into Internal Bleeding)
verbal gorge
thank you! then how am i going to generate energy in aoe?
limber lion
By using garrote and rupture on multiple enemies
verbal gorge
only with the 3 garrotte thingy with second row talent?
limber lion
You continue applying rupture to everything around you
After you have around 4-5 bleeds in total (either garrotes or ruptures) you'll be at energy saturation
meaning you'll get more energy than you can use
verbal gorge
oh i see thank you lots!
limber lion
You pretty much always continue applying ruptures and garrotes to everything around you
Good luck!
verbal gorge
ty ~!
strange minnow
do you hold flagellation for vendetta, or do you just rip it and not care? i never am sure
spice spire
If you know your timers, line them up as you can.
But if your progging/don’t know, just send it
dense bramble
when we buy a realm transfer, do we also get a name change?
oak sky
Only if your name is taken
spice spire
when we buy a realm transfer, do we also get a name change?
If someone shares the same name, yes, otherwise no
So you can make a level 1 with your name for it
If you so wish
dense bramble
what if i go there make a character with that name
spice spire
On the server you’re transferring
spice spire
Back to the flag question, missing a cast is worse than not syncing up - is why the advice is worded that way
strange minnow
If you know your timers, line them up as you can.
But if your progging/don’t kno...
cool, thank you!
hollow river
@brazen zodiac sorry yo but nah I don’t really do keys at this point I haven’t in a couple months
bleak sky
spice spire
We got there let’s go mr. minalba
spice spire
So you’re a psychopath
bleak sky
no u
oak sky
spice spire
bleak sky
brazen zodiac
i like doin keys with friends
puggings based but it sucks when ur tank just dips lfmao
hollow river
cerulean nest
are people crafting duskwalker leggo now?
balmy condor
I would hope not
marble hemlock
bleak sky
so I can dual wield fingers
spice spire
bleak sky
spice spire
Mister minalba I feel you may be trolling
bleak sky
gusty mirage
he out dps'd @spice spire on his vdh
spice spire
This is going on your quarterly review sir
brazen zodiac
I would hope not
........ wh-why...?
spice spire
On a 15 tyran where my pack damage was actually negative
brazen zodiac
oh dear
bleak sky
He was trolling on his dh yesterday too
I was griefed by that no lust on pull eye
brazen zodiac
i think i may know why
bleak sky
balmy condor
I was griefed by that no lust on pull eye
gusty mirage
This is going on your quarterly review sir
can we use this for my employee badge
brazen zodiac
survival hunter pump
balmy condor
<:monkaW:675691826505711626> ........ wh-why...?
Because you’ll just recraft again next patch
spice spire
Ye
spice spire
can we use this for my employee badge
Yes
balmy condor
and it’s not good atm
balmy condor
That’s the idea atm yes
fleet anchor
He was trolling on his dh yesterday too
DHs are the true DoT masters anyway, I dunno why people even play Assassination anymore
Perfection
bleak sky
dh is a very complex class Koji they just don't understand it
fleet anchor
And Assassination with their shitty 94% lowered DoT uptime now smh
Havoc knows what's up
balmy condor
subtle kiln
And Assassination with their shitty 94% lowered DoT uptime now smh
fixed
we’re just competing with WW for most bugs
fleet anchor
lol
subtle kiln
i’m actually scared to look at github to see who is winning.
spice spire
Enhancement is also in this race 
hollow river
Good luck on vaults to the EU brethren 
agile geode
limber lion
Good luck on vaults to the EU brethren <:prayge:803711491021733888>
You're 13 hours late
but thanks
for nothing
spice spire
Cev, if you clear this week, I see an upgrade in your future 
Clip and ship it, it’s a lock
spice spire
Gonna give it the full week
It’s waiting in the vault
Simmering
Those juices lookin YUICY
gusty mirage
Cev, if you clear this week, I see an upgrade in your future <:Prayge:8172525933...
you told me the same thing and I ended up taking research
limber lion
I've heard it so many times
Just hopium all around
But it's okay, I'll be lucky the first week of 9.2 again
spice spire
It’s the sin OTP blessing tho
limber lion
then I'm happy 
spice spire
You did have omega luck at the beginning
"
limber lion
Can't wait to loot the same Tarragrue neck and wrists 5th week in a row
hollow river
You're 13 hours late
Oh sorry I saw someone posting in game chat message of servers shutting down so I thought it was now 😦 must’ve been PTR
subtle kiln
yeah this time of a dev cycle that’s what gets posted
limber lion
Oh sorry I saw someone posting in game chat message of servers shutting down so ...
Yeh we're getting a new ptr build, that's why :p
hollow river
You lick... what???
limber lion
isnt tara wrist good?
Bis
limber lion
vestal wren
soon yes
vestal wren
ptr is down, so once it comes up
brazen zodiac
ty
copper sundial
grave trail
<a:boneZone:839526277572853800>
good riddance
drowsy parcel
grave trail
now we need to make PI a self cd
marble hemlock
what about pallettes?
hollow river
KA nerfed?! Thank god
copper hazel
wonder what it will actually do to them, probs not much
copper hazel
FixEd
brazen zodiac
spice spire
Survival hunters really do be having haters tho
bronze pike
ya, melee hunter is fun tho, so i dont really get it
old survival didnt even see much play? idk
atleast i dont remember seeing to many old survival hunters around
spice spire
Same with feral.
Why have melee when you can have ranged
cerulean nest
sub nerf seems pretty insignificant eh
echo geyser
echo geyser
still ahead of what?
spice spire
That’s for bear
Every other covenant
Their damage still benefits more from it than other covenants somehow 
spice spire
3% buff juicing 
echo geyser
spice spire
Damn
spice spire
Mr. ramfam really hit them with it
echo geyser
8% / 16% buff on dps was insane
spice spire
Even with fairly sized buffs? This is venturing into general but I’m surprised
That NF resto still wouldn’t be fine
spice spire
echo geyser
ppl prob still gonna play guardian druid
bleak sky
year of the spear gutted yet again
it's not gutted oxi we're gonna rise
brazen zodiac
lmfao
normal mist
1 m+20 left, letsa goe
foggy thicket
Is assa better than sub now? Or sub still S tier?
foggy thicket
Is assa better than sub now? Or sub still S tier?
For raids
limber lion
In the current patch or 9.2?
normal mist
assa is really strong current tier
limber lion
Both are great currently, we can't say for sure about the next patch though
foggy thicket
In the current patch or 9.2?
9.2
tidal gorge
Have we heard anything new about whether the weird snapshotting on the 4pc is sticking around?