assassination

[echo geyser]

its a struggle out here im scrambling for gear

[alpine latch]

If you need some carries and loot funnels, LMK

We got you

[echo geyser]

[drifting cloud]

wtf

can you stop doing dungeons

[gusty mirage]

[drifting cloud]

this is serious

youre approaching cringe rio territory

[gusty mirage]

whats cringe io territory

[bleak sky]

[drifting cloud]

youve never seen those 2.7-2.8k people in outlaw?

your brain just rots

[bleak sky]

But that's outlaw in general

They're all

[gusty mirage]

idk man

[bleak sky]

Even if lower rio

[gusty mirage]

aren't you like 2660 @bleak sky ?

[tight ginkgo]

2784

[bleak sky]

2692

I can't break 2700

[gusty mirage]

yeah make sure you don't round up

[bleak sky]

Gotta wait til next week

[tight ginkgo]

[bleak sky]

2692 basically 3k io

[gusty mirage]

museless is good people

[tight ginkgo]

i am try

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion this is your fault

[spice spire]

Muse is the exception to outlaw brain rot

Truly a based multi spec rogue freakazoid

[limber lion]

[viscid spear]

At least there's a bunch of Renown sources tomorrow

[drifting cloud]

these people still think 9.2 is happening

[gusty mirage]

[hollow escarp]

don't forget to pickup your garden seeds

mine were waiting since 9.0

[gusty mirage]

pick up my what?

[spice spire]

Oh god

[gusty mirage]

this is my first time being fae

[spice spire]

I forgot about the seeds

The garden

[hollow escarp]

[bleak sky]

Roleplay stuff

[spice spire]

Always on the grustle, king

[hollow escarp]

RP is 66% of what an RPG is

[bleak sky]

Well shit

You're technically correct and I can't refute

[viscid spear]

Wish I was at home playing

Instead

[copper sundial]

Any other fully upgraded gardens in here

[viscid spear]

Mine's at 3. Need to xfer anima

I don't have any of the unique things that high. Never done Ember Court or the Kyrian battle thing

[oak sky]

Solution, only upgrade mushroom tp and never touch the garden

[brazen zodiac]

same lmaoo

[slim wagon]

full upgraded since the start of 9.1.5 🤣 then I went necro

[brazen zodiac]

fully upgraded since like midway through 9.0 lmfao the garden makes BANK

[pure moth]

Oh i shouldn't have tossed all the seeds out .. rip

[brazen zodiac]

anyone got an ambush weakaura

[oak sky]

we're getting a dagger

[pure moth]

Are we?

[solemn plaza]

https://wago.io/UIkD3z6cH

[oak sky]

we're getting max ilvl daggers

whether or not it has special effects who knows

[bleak sky]

DAGGIES

[brazen zodiac]

pggo and thx

[jade minnow]

Seriously thought about rerolling to enha to be useful, but now fk that blue shit, ez dagger

[fringe kraken]

I've got like 30 renown to farm for kyrian to finish up all the covenants, but I can't get through this garbage covenenat lol

[brazen zodiac]

i feel kyrians campaign was the most interesting

[viscid spear]

"Memories bad"
"But what if memories good?"
"Usurper!"

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/shadowlands-kyrian-flying-world-of-warcraft-wow-gif-22717224

😂

[viscid spear]

CHAMPION
TAKE MY SPEE EAR

[spice spire]

sauce?

[glass tulip]

Rygelon's dagger

So many jokes waiting behind that one

[oak sky]

wowhead blue post

about weapons

by our best friend scarizard

[bleak sky]

Unique effect: Your attacks apply Rygelon's Rage, giving your finishers a chance to deal X angry damage.

[tight ginkgo]

Huge given that angry damage is toxic af and thereby increased by shiv

[signal pier]

angry damage sounds like my type of damage

[tidal gorge]

Unique effect: Your attacks have a small chance to apply Rygeloff, instantly killing your target

[trail marsh]

You were a twinkle in the GoGF's eye when I was busting FAT, HEROIC parses with my LEGENDARY swoRds

[brazen zodiac]

xdd

[brazen zodiac]

instantly granting you CE

[viscid spear]

Turns out memories good

[brazen zodiac]

memories good

[tidal gorge]

Nah, that's Zovaalon's dagger

[brazen zodiac]

xd

[spice spire]

M-muse, are you dealing angry damage

[viscid spear]

He's got Angry Aura

[spice spire]

muse is the angriest rogue I've ever played with, bar none.

It's true, I'm sorry buddy, I let the cat out of the bag

[median silo]

James out here sayin mad stuff

[oak sky]

he just doesnt like that its tuned low

its fine

[median silo]

Aye just trollin

[tight ginkgo]

actively mald at any given time it is true.

[spice spire]

I’m gonna get an angry dm for that one

[thorny pond]

Stay Angry Quake

SAQ

[bleak sky]

Saq dn

[thorny pond]

Ayyyyy

[pure moth]

And i thought i was the angry one... hah

[placid pagoda]

Do we reaaaaaally have to rank up fae i cba to grind that shit out for the 5th time

[bleak sky]

Only if you want to do the most damage

Otherwise you can be just like @spice spire still playing Necro this patch

[brazen zodiac]

idk people call it a grind but i feel like it only takes like 5 hours max, esp if u didnt do the daillies

[hollow vessel]

I am ready to farm those daggers every week until I get one of them during the last week of the patch!

[potent dagger]

Still have not dropped sylvanas daggers , cheers bro 😢

[cerulean nest]

how does KA work? do they need to line it up with something or just hit on cd basically

[limber lion]

Hit it on cd

[viscid spear]

Sold my Korthite crsytals

[brazen zodiac]

is KA the thing that works with that sac ability? not sure if i read it right before

sup cev and ash

:)

[viscid spear]

Made 191k from the 200 I threw in the AH the other day

[brazen zodiac]

🤑

[viscid spear]

Would've mailed all the Korthite I had on alts before I transferred if I knew

[brazen zodiac]

wait a second

those up in price?

[viscid spear]

MakeIt told me to put them up in the AH since I had a full stack of 200 and no crafter alt

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

time to sell mine

[viscid spear]

Technically they went for 1000 each but the AH cut narrowed it from 200k to 191k

[brazen zodiac]

easy 15k ig

lowkey

bouta go farm korthia

oh my god

[viscid spear]

I should compare the prices between my server and my old dead server

[viscid spear]

[brazen zodiac]

xddd

[brazen zodiac]

year of the fae

[echo geyser]

[sonic schooner]

[viscid spear]

[arctic walrus]

omg look at all those night fae rogues on the bench in oribos

[drifting cloud]

[viscid spear]

[viscid spear]

I just went to SoD, forgot I was Fae

[brazen zodiac]

lfmfao

[viscid spear]

Changed back

[brazen zodiac]

traitor

i better not catch u shaping ur soul around these parts again bro

[viscid spear]

Gotta go back to Fae after raid, was still doing stuff

[agile geode]

Am i the only one to wish to play necro next tier?

Nfae or kyrian feels weird to me

It seems like to back to 9.0

[viscid spear]

idk Quake might still only have Necro at 80 by then

[agile geode]

Sbs feels so Amazing

Flagellation is funny too

As playstile

But the other two..

😭👺

[neat topaz]

if you want to play necrolord, play necrolord. H*ck the meta

[agile geode]

Heh i would like to

But my GM hold me to play the "meta" cov

Y i know Is a problem Just for me

[neat topaz]

a real assassin would take care of the problem 😉

[woeful meteor]

Then tell him Necro is best and people just havent caught up yet 🙂

[agile geode]

I dont think there would be a tuning where i could play the cov i prefer

Lel

[oak sky]

its kyrian huh?

[agile geode]

I can try

[viscid spear]

No, it's Patrick

[agile geode]

Kyrian Is probably best for sub n outl

[median silo]

Tell them you used the wheel of death and have to play necro. https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/iy6qko/the_ultimate_masochist_shadowlands_class_spec_and/

[agile geode]

Lol

[viscid spear]

"NF Ret Pally"

[short token]

guys i'm having trouble finding which soulbind to use for venthyr in the pins. Is it Nadija with 3 potency?

[woeful meteor]

Nadjia with dauntless dueslist for Raid

Theotar can sim higher depending on your tea buff

[short token]

ok, i don't even know about the tea buffs yet

been fae/necro the entire expac so far

[brazen zodiac]

..

[viscid spear]

Agi tea -> Nadja
Haste/Crit Tea -> Theo
idk about Vers

[spice spire]

Just tell him you can do damage as whatever

[short token]

do you control which tea you get?

[spice spire]

You can link kayl’s logs and he pumps so

Seli also had NL iirc

[spice spire]

Nope, random

[short token]

oh ok

ty

[spice spire]

But you can reset by the hour

So few hours before raid, if you land on crit, log out until close to time

[short token]

i see...who gives the tea?

[viscid spear]

Theo

[short token]

tyvm

[viscid spear]

It's the last node in his soulbind tree

You'll find Theo along the wall between the soulbind thing and the reservoir

[short token]

oh so you have to be bound to theo to get it...is it worth it to log in every hour before raid, roll crit, and then log out? better than nadija?

or let the other buffs expire rather...

until you roll crit

[viscid spear]

Yeah, you have to be bound to Theo to retain the buff.

If you really want to min/max you can log in as many times as you can when the CD is up to roll the stat you want

4hr buff, 1hr CD so that's up to you

[short token]

and theo + crit is optimal over nadija?

[viscid spear]

Theo + not Agi is better than Nadja

[short token]

oh wow

that's definitely a consideration then

ty

[viscid spear]

Triple Pot Theo with Haste or Crit beats out Dauntless Nadja in almost every scenario

[strange python]

https://gyazo.com/1c57316851d5e35fbabe4f2a311fc373

first try

got my main

lmfao

[viscid spear]

Feral Druid

[strange python]

i blame NF assass for forcing my hand

[viscid spear]

[lunar elm]

yo

need help with a WA

i want shiv debuff timer on progress bar

idk how

[cobalt pelican]

make a new progress bar, set the trigger type to debuff, unit to target??

[drifting cloud]

[lunar elm]

idk what the fudge im doing

[balmy condor]

I think templates

Can do that too

[surreal prism]

I can make you one if you give me a sec

[balmy condor]

Just click through

[lunar elm]

it cant

[surreal prism]

templates work too

[lunar elm]

just cd tracking

i thnik

[balmy condor]

Hm

Maybe I’m not remembering properly

[surreal prism]

https://wago.io/hSIwnjJGA
You can mess with the display settings to make it how you want

[lunar elm]

i got it

my brain worked really hard for this

[rare scaffold]

what is the break point for haste?

[slow marsh]

there isn't one

[balmy condor]

126% is a breakpoint

[fathom flax]

0% is a breakpoint

Anything above that is a dps gain

@balmy condor when you stare into your crystal ball what do you think will be the 1 spec/cov to play

For low effort gamers who don’t wanna swap

Literally anything

Maybe a conduit if I have to

[balmy condor]

Fae

Or if you’re low effort gaming and being an M+ chad too

Then venth

[bleak sky]

But my m+ Necro pad

[hollow river]

We run the sepsis condy?

[bleak sky]

WPS LP sepsis dreamweaver (raid)

[hollow river]

[bleak sky]

Idk if korayn is the move on aoe or not

[hollow river]

Think it is yes

[bleak sky]

Yeah on the sims for m+ it's playing korayn with WPS+stepsis

[spice spire]

Korayn is the move aoe

Firstbtrike

Pretty decent

[bleak sky]

Looking at the sims and seeing Mfd in there is painful

[hollow river]

Wdym

[bleak sky]

M+ sim stuff for 9.2

[slow marsh]

I'm still wondering at what target count korayn beats dreamweaver when zooted with tier and if theo beats korayn in terms of average if that makes sense

[bleak sky]

Yeah that's kinda what I meant with "idk if korayn is the move" in raid

If you're just better off switching to venth

[slow marsh]

some fights I imagine she will be for sure like lihivum defo seems like a korayn fight

[bleak sky]

But worded it like a baboon

[spice spire]

Or

[slow marsh]

Ye and the 2nd part of mine is that i'm wondering at what point if any venth takes over in the cleave dpmt

[spice spire]

Heirmir

[fathom flax]

Wait korayn is a girl

[slow marsh]

Ye korayn is a female I believe

[fathom flax]

Idk I haven’t read quest text since 2015

[slow marsh]

idk i used to think it's a dude

[fathom flax]

When do we find out if new dagger beats edge of night

[slow marsh]

it's 2022 who cares these days right

new dagger wont have cantrip effect says scarizard

[bleak sky]

Do we have the full info on daggers effect though?

Or if they have one

Because if no effect you can just sim them right?

[slow marsh]

Ye i believe by no cantrip effect he means it wont have an additional rider like eon

but he did also say that he's trying to put something special in for us idk

[bleak sky]

What a champ

[fathom flax]

I don’t wanna use edge of night offhand

For the rest of the game

[bleak sky]

Welp that sucks as a blue name

But gotta wait and see

[slow marsh]

yeah one thing's for sure is that they are still open to adding and tweaking stuff so who knows what'll happen

[hexed frost]

New Dagger? Can't find info on WoWHead :/

[slow marsh]

cuz it's not in the game until this week build probs

he just posted saying they added it to table today

[fathom flax]

Yeah what he said but in my voice

[hollow river]

Cantrip?

[oak sky]

effect weapon

[slow marsh]

Cantrip I guess is what they call the proc effects

[hollow river]

If there’s no effect I wonder if a 285 OH will even beat eon

[oak sky]

yes

for us

maybe not for sub

[hollow river]

Yeah

[pure moth]

I had to redo plater... and now the aura icons dont show up on name plates. Anyone know where in settings it is to get them to show up? i can see them on the target frame. just not on the name plate.

[slow marsh]

Buff tracking I think ?

[pure moth]

tried, nothing though.

when i grabbed the profile the last time, they were already there. not this time though.

[strange python]

Hi guys, in case we play with Duskwalker, do you know where will we have the legendary slot? ring or chest?

[limber lion]

It's debatable, but I'd imagine we'll use the Dusk chest and Unity boots/gloves.

Of course it depends a bunch on which tier pieces you have on which slots and so on

A ring is a safe bet and won't change much in terms of output

[strange python]

oh I did not think on the tier pieces, kekw

yeah U're right, I think I'll go ring since right now are "cheap"

thanks @limber lion

[limber lion]

Np

[bleak sky]

Is there a point in crafting it right now though?

[limber lion]

No

It only becomes good with the tier set

[subtle kiln]

only point right now would be to get the vessel if you’re anticipating rank 7 vessels to be astronomically expensive

[burnt escarp]

hi everyone new here I have a question regarding current legendaries is better to have the covenant one with venthyr or dashing scoundral?

[normal mist]

M+ obedience for sure, raid i guess its your choice, although i play dashing, because of the absurd amount of crit we get from the raid items

[burnt escarp]

oh ok thanks

[verbal mantle]

if you're new around I would read FAQ channels carefully as it could make you learn more things aswell

[burnt escarp]

thank you

[blazing chasm]

how is NF sinrogue looking

for 9.2

[bleak sky]

Looking good, sims pinned in #916546791472783371

[alpine latch]

So, how do I avoid being stomped in Spires?

Because I was behind the boss, didn't move, and he just turned around and stomped me in the face

[earnest remnant]

you talking about 3rd boss?

[bleak sky]

Yeah just stay behind the boss

[alpine latch]

Yeah. Twice he just straight up targeted me, turned around, and stomped on my face

I was never in front of the boss

[earnest remnant]

it goes on tank

[bleak sky]

There might be some pepega movement by tank that's causing that

[earnest remnant]

or if you walk inside the boss it can hit you

[alpine latch]

Naw, it legit turned around

Twice

[ripe shale]

Tank Lost aggro ?

[earnest remnant]

highly doubt

[alpine latch]

IDK, but I was annoyed AF

[ripe shale]

Or maybe tank was out of range so it targeted u

[earnest remnant]

it doesent stomp if he is out, you trigger it by walking under him pretty much

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I know how I've gotten hit in the past.

This wasn't me being out of position

The boss physically turned around and had me targeted

[limber lion]

The only reasons why that could happen:
tank walked back on top of the group
tank lost aggro
tank died

If people get hit by the stomp, it's usually the tank's fault.

Maybe the tank got BOP or used bubble or something

those drop aggro

[earnest remnant]

yeah, if the tank didn't taunt before pressing it, then yeah it would swap

[alpine latch]

Nope, we don't have those

[limber lion]

Maybe the tank ran off too far too quickly

[opaque mauve]

Finally got soulrender mythic down yesterday after over 260 wipes in my lowly guild , and got a 99 parse, 100ilvl was happy with that on a first kill ☺️

[limber lion]

Grats!

[opaque mauve]

Ty 🙂

[spice spire]

You’re chuckling. Good shit.
Rn we’re on wipe 40, 24% best ourself
What a boss for a fiesta

[bleak sky]

chains adds cc adds grip adds chains dance

[spice spire]

Yeah

And remnant

[restive ermine]

As a sin rogue
Agi pot vs Phantom fire
Whats the difference?

[bleak sky]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[thorny pond]

not much usually, just sim it

[gusty mirage]

Consistency

PF pots you kinda gotta get lucky for them to do big damage

[opaque mauve]

We had to many padders, not enough people nuking the boss , I was tanking on my Dk but we dropped to 4 heal as we were hitting enrage , so I got to stab stuff haha

[bleak sky]

vault bless

[gusty mirage]

Bless mine too pls

2nd sylv daggie

Or phial

[bleak sky]

you'll get them

I need a phial/veinripper

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

the habibi bless

[spice spire]

Praying for a phial

[gusty mirage]

I only did one key

[spice spire]

@gusty mirage you’re getting an upgrade today

[gusty mirage]

I’m trying the secret tech

[spice spire]

Idk what

But it’s there

[pure moth]

What if u get a dagger and phial.. what would u choose

[spice spire]

I did 10 20+ keys this week

[gusty mirage]

Phial

[bleak sky]

phial honestly

[spice spire]

Dagger is farmable weekly

[bleak sky]

dagger can drop, phial can't be 252

[spice spire]

252 phial isn’t

Yeah

[bleak sky]

boi be gaming

[gusty mirage]

I got more pvp boxes than m+ boxes this week

[spice spire]

Boi be carried*

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

7 vault enjoyer?

[gusty mirage]

6

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

I queued like 60 games into melee cleaves Sunday

I couldn’t do it anymore

[spice spire]

Bro

[gusty mirage]

Getting accidentally tolled for 60k

[bleak sky]

quake

get that r1 malganis sin

[bleak sky]

deserved for playing pvp tbh

[gusty mirage]

You want me to pug 23s and 24s?

[bleak sky]

yes be miserable like me

[vestal wren]

[gusty mirage]

I’m already miserable like you

[bleak sky]

did all the ToPs this week

none of them worked

[gusty mirage]

They were going the shadow priest, he dispersed and I got all the tolls

[spice spire]

Honestly, it’s pretty obtainable

I’m like 200 io off

Fellas do be log watching tho

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

Wtf

My sin is 2530 or some shit and I’m like hardstuck 5th

Your server sucks

[spice spire]

Yeah, they’re all sub andys

I’m only 100 off of you homie

You’d be like 3?

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

sub

[pallid bough]

A fellow RPS player

qing into Ret Warrior

Ret, Warrior, Dk, DH, WW, Enhance. 2 of the following

[bleak sky]

i read that as retribution warrior and was confused for a sec

[spice spire]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-spec-realm-rankings/season-sl-2/us/malganis/rogue/assassination/0

Yeah, people hopped off sin early

[gusty mirage]

DH fel rushing for 10k

[bleak sky]

quitters never win quake

[pallid bough]

Warrior execute for 34k

w/ Elusiveness up

[gusty mirage]

I wish shadowstep would hit people for 10k

That’d be nice

At this point, I’m convinced elusiveness does nothing

I’m half tempted to just play cheat

[pallid bough]

honestly I might run cheat

I have been thinking the same

[glass tulip]

I play cheat, its more fun

i dont feint in arena anyway

[gusty mirage]

Pre feint a stormbolt and still die in it

[pallid bough]

Elusiveness is only good if you can pre feint stuns

esp against RMPs

but

ya you just die

[nocturne geode]

stop doxing my rogue jk ❤️

[gusty mirage]

I’d be 2nd

Don’t insult me like that

[nocturne geode]

reppping nf on mal ganis

[spice spire]

I thought it was 2503

[gusty mirage]

[nocturne geode]

quake closing the gap on me gotta do some keys this week

[gusty mirage]

Dw if you stay night fae he should catch up in no time

[nocturne geode]

ive been nf the whole time

except to level covs up

[gusty mirage]

It’s okay, I like throwing too like playin sin in dos

[nocturne geode]

or forced venth for senguine

relax man no need to flame

[gusty mirage]

I’m quite relaxed Ty

[glass tulip]

you sound stressed

let me rub your feet

[nocturne geode]

kekw

https://tenor.com/view/chiki-cat-cat-beg-begging-gif-19635695

[gusty mirage]

Bro?

[glass tulip]

I said what I said

[spice spire]

Mister no tricks truly produced gold with that one

Damn

[glass tulip]

no way that wasnt a vitalitas message

[glass tulip]

oh hey I know that guy, he used to be in xD

[gusty mirage]

No shit

Huh

So why’s he in alter ego now

[glass tulip]

his shaman is still in xD for M+ as friend role

but yeah he was my backup on AE

[spice spire]

@glass tulip

Man is a genius

[gusty mirage]

Makes sense, m+ ape

[glass tulip]

and they have some connections to Blood legion

[bleak sky]

if gm/officers are great and the others aren't, you just perma mute your other raiders

[glass tulip]

[viscid spear]

How about a 40-something woman as GM and a bunch of 20-something white knights as officers?

[bleak sky]

that sounds like || hell || an awesome place to raid

[glass tulip]

sounds hot

[viscid spear]

That was my Horde guild in Cataclysm from Firelands to Dragon Soul

[glass tulip]

were you the white knight

[viscid spear]

I was the rank below officer, I had to play Disc Priest

Everyone wanted to dps, I couldn't play my Rogue

Best we got was Heroic Morepenis

[thorny pond]

what's "morepenis"?

[viscid spear]

Morchok

And his buttbuddy Kohcrom

[glass tulip]

why didnt you call it morcock instead

[viscid spear]

Professionalism

[glass tulip]

morepenis

[viscid spear]

Excessphallus

And his partner Sullahpssecxe

[spice spire]

When you said horde guild I went

[viscid spear]

I've been in three over my playing time

[spice spire]

Learning the ash lore

[viscid spear]

Not counting HA

I started playing during the Ulduar patch, mained a Prot Pally in ICC

[bleak sky]

a certified boomer

[spice spire]

Started Aq (original)

[bleak sky]

oh shit two certified boomers

[viscid spear]

Shadowlands was the first expansion in which I actualy raided the first tier

[spice spire]

Off and on gamer, skipped wotlk altogether

BC, mists, SL for me

[thorny pond]

2/3 are good xpacs you played

[spice spire]

I finished on a high note: throne of thunder

[thorny pond]

end of SL could be good

[spice spire]

Oh, I meant for beginning

[glass tulip]

SL first time I played wow

[spice spire]

I also played vanilla, cata, and bfa

Made my return after like 8 years to 8.3

[viscid spear]

Wrath - ICC
Cataclysm - Firelands
Mists - Throne
Warlords - Foundry
Legion - Tomb
BfA - Dazar'alor

[bleak sky]

my legion logs are

[viscid spear]

Late bloomer I guess

[spice spire]

All my logs are

[viscid spear]

You guys have logs pre-SL?

[honest vale]

Sounds like a guild I was in on bleeding hollow.

[bleak sky]

ye but you gotta dig deep

[viscid spear]

Sorta got kicked out when my Wrath Horde guild reformed at the end of Cata and I spent more time on my Rogue with them then I did as my Priest for the other one

Ofc that Wrath guild is the one that dumped me last expansion, so

[honest vale]

I’m happy as a pig in shit in this guild on Mal’Ganis now.

[viscid spear]

I concur

[spice spire]

Which did you join?

[honest vale]

Small Indie Company. Just a great group of friends enjoying the game.

[tight ginkgo]

more mal'ganis rogus

[spice spire]

Love to hear it! I haven’t seen them, but good stuff homie

We love the MG rogues

Even muse joined me

[tight ginkgo]

[lament aurora]

mal ganis rogues are trash

[viscid spear]

[spice spire]

Yeah heard the outlaw OTPs are the worst there tbh

[lament aurora]

[viscid spear]

Wowhead posted an article analyzing the top dps in Mythic SoD
All three Rogue specs are in the top 5

[spice spire]

Balanced, trust.

[bleak sky]

rogues doing their job tbh

[viscid spear]

Pop sizes are silly tho

[bleak sky]

and externals

[spice spire]

External gaming

[viscid spear]

1659 Outlaws, 6706 Subs, 6687 Sins

[grand ridge]

Man dragon soul was a good time to be a rogue

Best raid

[spice spire]

Unsure about that one king

Combat prison was real until daggies obtained

[grand ridge]

I cleared heroic dragon soul on 3 characters

[gusty mirage]

seems about right

tbh

[spice spire]

I did it on 2

[grand ridge]

Though there were progressive nerfs

Tbh

[spice spire]

Heal + rogue

[grand ridge]

I like progressive nerfs

It makes the content more accessible

[gusty mirage]

"combat prison"

[grand ridge]

I played all 3 in ds

[gusty mirage]

combat was actually so much better than pirate prison

[grand ridge]

I would play sub for hagara and spine

Outlaw for most other bosses and assassination for madness

[gusty mirage]

I played combat in ICC

[agile geode]

multiquote oxi

was so cool

[grand ridge]

Arpen combat

[spice spire]

Bro

[gusty mirage]

miss it still

[grand ridge]

Good times

[spice spire]

Combat in DS was garbage

[grand ridge]

I was arpen capped

[agile geode]

but then we had to roll the bones

[viscid spear]

18k Boomkins, typical af

[gusty mirage]

dunno

quit in cata

[spice spire]

It was CD, SS and Eviscerate

[gusty mirage]

leveled to 85

said this game sucks

didn't log in until legion

[agile geode]

y but it was called COMBAT

it change a lot

[spice spire]

You didn’t even rupture or snd as it was a dps loss or even

I hated that’s hit

[viscid spear]

"Very missleading data, no point doing that, also remove damage from aoe swords that players can pick up along the raid. You just promote unhealthy thinking to new players. If you want to do posts like that, maybe change it to damage on boss fights only etc."

[gusty mirage]

evisc combat build in wrath

[viscid spear]

"Fights seem to favour melee. Beyond that I refuse to give lists like these too much importance."

[bleak sky]

vaults are juicy so far

[viscid spear]

[grand ridge]

I remember dueling people as combat with armor pen cap

[viscid spear]

These comments are hilarious

[grand ridge]

You could one shot even geared people with one ks

[gusty mirage]

also, max's tier list

is a joke

[spice spire]

Give sauce papi

Need some inspiration while mine simmers

[gusty mirage]

YES

KS was so fucking great

[spice spire]

Old KS was goated

I miss KS

[grand ridge]

I called it my kill people in mid air build

[viscid spear]

First Vault with a 252 raid piece available

[spice spire]

Eye gear

[grand ridge]

You could pop ks and 100 to 0 people on flying mounts

[spice spire]

Or nine boots

[grand ridge]

Then pop engi slow fall

[spice spire]

Grue gear kinda stinky

[gusty mirage]

[grand ridge]

Oh shit vault time

[gusty mirage]

those bracers?

hello?

[bleak sky]

fat phial

[spice spire]

I KEEP FORGETTING THE BRWCERS JEBSKANSNS SVSHKSM

[gusty mirage]

LOL

[spice spire]

I got vers crit bracers early in tier

[viscid spear]

I got those already

[gusty mirage]

its okay tarragrue is a very forgettable boss

[spice spire]

So I just say all gear bad

[spice spire]

Which toon?

[gusty mirage]

those shoulders are bis for sub pvp tho

[spice spire]

Sin OTP king, sorry

[viscid spear]

Tarra wrists or Sanguine dagger

[bleak sky]

fort raging

[gusty mirage]

dagger

[spice spire]

What ilvl is dagger, ash?

[bleak sky]

god help the tanks

[gusty mirage]

weapons will always be a bigger dps gain

[viscid spear]

252

[spice spire]

Dagger

[bleak sky]

ez dagger ash

[south kestrel]

Where can I find the sin guide please?

[gusty mirage]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[bleak sky]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[south kestrel]

aces thanks

[gusty mirage]

@bleak sky KISS ME

[bleak sky]

[spice spire]

@viscid spear that puts you at a 252 and EoN yeah?

[gusty mirage]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[viscid spear]

My wrists are 252 with a socket, so that wasn't an option

[vestal wren]

gz

[viscid spear]

Yeah

[spice spire]

Net not loading

[bleak sky]

ready to play sub now oxi

[spice spire]

Did we get the sauce, oxi?

Double daggie?

I blessed it

[viscid spear]

Dagger even has +34 Speed

[bleak sky]

I got a key I need from vault but I'm afraid to run it and brick it

[uneven hamlet]

u gonna hit so fast

[spice spire]

AYO?!

[spice spire]

What key?

[bleak sky]

pf 24

[spice spire]

Wait

That’s kind of free this week

[bleak sky]

kinda yeah but I'm always afraid of running my keys

[tight ginkgo]

PF free yuh you got this

[viscid spear]

Can I keep Sinful on EoN even in my OH?

[gusty mirage]

kyr already 78 renown

[spice spire]

Sin on raging weeks feels bad

[bleak sky]

yeah

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

That’s fine, the difference is very minimal

Just plug whatever buff you lose onto the new daggie

[viscid spear]

I mean I can get another Sinful, lol

[bleak sky]

I'm 100% saving shiv for a big de-enrage for sure

[spice spire]

Same here papi

[viscid spear]

And replace the one on EoN with Celestial

[spice spire]

I never full send shiv

It’s literally almost 0 difference, ash, lol. Iirc it doesn’t matter what goes where

Just that you have one of each

[gusty mirage]

wait

forgot KT neck

[bleak sky]

imagine not being 254.94

[viscid spear]

Glad I don't have to worry about Sylv kills anymore

[spice spire]

Yeah, it’s free tomorrow anyway

[bleak sky]

11% avoidance

[snow forge]

got syvl mythic vault loot 3 weeks in a row, - ring, chest, dagger - hoping for second dagger tomorrow. that woman waited 35 kills for dropping the hc dagger and now that shes on the good side she feels guilty

[spice spire]

249.94

[viscid spear]

.69

[wheat snow]

So quick question, I want to craft a shoulder legendary to round off a tmog- is Resounding Clarity used often for kyrian assassin and sub rogues?

[bleak sky]

kyrian assassin is not a thing

[gusty mirage]

sylv chest + eye gloves w/ avoidance

[bleak sky]

and you probably don't want to craft a legendary on shoulders if you want to use it

if you just want the transmog craft anything at 190 I guess it doesn't matter

[sour wraith]

Nice 246 phial

[gusty mirage]

true

[bold lintel]

252 phial doesn't exist

[grand ridge]

Did they change it so that legendaries can end up in your appearance collection?

I thought you could not mog them

[bold lintel]

Dont they share mog with raid?

[grand ridge]

Yeah so they may have changed it, but at launch they were not added to your appearance collection. That might still be the case I am unsure.

[wheat snow]

They're still not added to the collection

If you want them for the looks you have to actually put the item itself in a slot

[normal mist]

Heroic set pretty close to the legendary items

[bleak sky]

!bos

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Defensives usability: http://tiny.cc/q602uz

[cobalt hemlock]

for arena you go obedience for the versatility or which one?

[gusty mirage]

as sin?

you play doomblade gloves or dusk ring, both haste/vers

[cobalt hemlock]

oh thank you

[gusty mirage]

you just don't generate enough cp to make obedience worth

unfortunately

[brazen zodiac]

hi oxi

[gusty mirage]

[brazen zodiac]

i hope u had good sleep and ur day goes well

[bleak sky]

oxi truly a pvp machine

[gusty mirage]

no u

[alpine latch]

lol imagine only having a 246 Phial .... (that's the only item I have on my entire character that's better than yours)

[spice spire]

Considering that’s the only item he needs for bis, it’s your only option 😛

[alpine latch]

lol

Right?

So bolstering all week, right?

For m+?

[safe bane]

Hello! Healer main here and wanted some help buffing my venthyr assassination rogue partner (16% crit, lasts 10 seconds). Just wanted to ask if on flagellation or on vendetta is the best time for a crit boost or should I wait a bit to let flagellation stack ?

[alpine latch]

I assume this is a PvP question?

You may get more help in #pvp

In case no one here can answer 🙂

[safe bane]

Sorry I didn’t clarify it’s for raid

[alpine latch]

ohhh, okay

[safe bane]

Yeah I want to try to learn how to use my buff well but I’m not a rogue main so wanted a bit of advice but it’s just an external so even if I yolo it he probably won’t complain

[alpine latch]

Ah, you're a druid. You're the best ... I'll let someone else help with your question, as they'll know more about it than me

[safe bane]

😅 last time I worked with my target directly their requested timings were super weird / off so I wanted some advice because I know flagellation stacks (?) or builds(?) and I’m looking for some sort of signal that my rogue is set up

[spice spire]

You want to buff them after the vanish window afaik.
That way they don’t overcap on crit during that timeframe

[safe bane]

Got it so right after they use vanish ?

[spice spire]

Because getting 16% crit during 98% crit is pretty odd

3 globals after vanish

[safe bane]

LOL yeah that would be weird

[spice spire]

As helpful as that is 😛

[safe bane]

It is 🙂 is it okay to use on pull?

[spice spire]

Probably not

Because we open in stealth

So we still have that 98% crit on open, and about 7 globals into the fight, we’ll vanish again

[safe bane]

Do you know if I should use with vendetta or x globals after ?

[spice spire]

X after, I run NL, so it’s different for me

[safe bane]

Okay so still the 3 global after vanish is best

[spice spire]

Mut, snd, mut, garrote, flag, rupture, shiv, vendetta/pot/trinket, vanish, mut, env, mfd, env -> link

Is how it would be in the APL

[safe bane]

That is going to be a trip even the bond without empowerment is 8% crit

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s pretty funny not gonna lie lol

[gusty mirage]

I would ye

[safe bane]

What’s mfd?

[gusty mirage]

marked for death

also @alpine latch explosives is a great week to do sanguine

[safe bane]

That seems like a good signal then

[gusty mirage]

explosives count for the lantern

[spice spire]

Yeah, honestly If you want a signal, that’s a good one

They’ll have one global overcapped but

Much better than just going at start

[alpine latch]

We missed our 20 SD last night by 2 minutes. We tried to pull bridge pack + the side room, and it went horribly wrong. Then we wiped on final boss trying to rush.

Also we have 2 deaths from (literally) zero damage

So that's cool

[spice spire]

SD on fort also a bit easier IMO

[alpine latch]

Yeah, we'll crush it this week

[spice spire]

Boss 2-3 dog water

[gusty mirage]

yeah esp after they nerfed the vestiges of doubt

[alpine latch]

I literally died to nothing though

IDK how the hell that happens

[gusty mirage]

probably the curse

if I had the guess

someone might've clipped you with the circle

[alpine latch]

Oh, just you wait

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RaHyZCmBxcwL86hk#fight=last&type=deaths

Literally - I died to nothing.

1-shot for 0 damage after rezzing

I evasion'd the first rush, tried to vanish the second and got hit while he was quite far away from me

After they killed the boss, I rezzed and immediately died

Then our healer on the final boss died to bleed, waited, ankhed

and immediately died to the same bleed

She ankhed and died

[upbeat needle]

idk man I feel like Tyr SD is way easier

[safe bane]

They won’t because I need one global of reaction time since slowbrain

[upbeat needle]

personally

[gusty mirage]

next time don't get hit by the 1-shot "Unknown Ability" @alpine latch

[spice spire]

I did at lower levels, but getting one shot by third boss, through orbs and feint, or the add being up with castigate on the healer killing them, is pretty not great lol

[upbeat needle]

what level we talkin

[gusty mirage]

tyran sanguine is awful

actually wait

let me fix that

sanguine is awful

there that's better

[upbeat needle]

there u go

[gusty mirage]

you're picking your poison, either get wrecked by third boss

[upbeat needle]

Tried 23 this week did not go well

Sanguine w Sanguine is aids

[jade minnow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RaHyZCmBxcwL86hk#fight=last&view=replay so fucking funny to watch how u died at 8:28 tbh

[gusty mirage]

or get a full encyclopedia set thrown at your face

[jade minnow]

lost my shit

[viscid spear]

What's the general good number of orbs to get on 3rd boss in SD to comfortably survive along with Feint?

[upbeat needle]

3 w feint and vial usually fine even on my highest which was 23

[gusty mirage]

ye 3 with feint is more than enough

[spice spire]

21+

[viscid spear]

Yeah, I only do like 15/16s and just 2 with Feint is good

[upbeat needle]

even without vial should be good, but accretion, snd conduit/anima conduit helps a bit too

[viscid spear]

Was wondering how hard it hits on higher Tyr keys

[gusty mirage]

2 w/ feint will proc your cheat on a 23

I can confirm that

lol

[spice spire]

Yes, it does. It’s just not a fun time all around hehe.
Outside of those two, the dungeon is easy on tyran

[viscid spear]

How is the gauntlet affected on each week anyway? Always wondered that.

[spice spire]

You’re a god gamer for your service

[upbeat needle]

"never again" he says

[gusty mirage]

given blizzard's inconsistencies with that shit in the past

no clue

[gusty mirage]

had a mage snipe 2 orbs in front of me

a FROST mage

[upbeat needle]

IMAGINE

had a hunter last week not use turtle once in key

[gusty mirage]

lmao

[viscid spear]

Wondered if on Tyr weeks the Kaal in the gauntlet is the beefed version or in Fort weeks is she stronger in the gauntlet

[gusty mirage]

I think her abilities during gauntlet are buffed by tyran

but tbh I don't log keys so no clue

but in the past its been super inconsistent

[upbeat needle]

quick someone ping JPC

we must figure out

[viscid spear]

Was doing a few SDs last week and it seemed like she was super stronk

[gusty mirage]

because I remember galv in temple, his pillars would be buffed by fort, and his abilities would be buffed by tyran

and that was the actual boss fight

[viscid spear]

*was

[gusty mirage]

[viscid spear]

I have PTSD about the first boss in Temple, lol

Gust dead

[upbeat needle]

lmfaooo I got fatescribe helm out of vault

forever gonna sit myself on that boss in reclears now

thank god

[viscid spear]

This is the first expansion where I actually wanted to do better in M+

Now I'm 2025

[upbeat needle]

Gonna be honest

making big jumps each patch is such a good feeling you should actually be pretty proud of yourself

fuckin

I was so bad in 8.3 man

[spice spire]

Dude snapped a barrier

He’s chuckling

[viscid spear]

My season 1 score was 999

[gusty mirage]

dude snapped the key too

which he needed for io

[spice spire]

[upbeat needle]

pretty huge actually

[viscid spear]

My BfA Season 4 was 1527

[viscid spear]

SL Season 1, lol

[upbeat needle]

yea I know

I gotta see my jumps

[viscid spear]

Didn't think it was good, lol

Just saw a group that had a "recommended score" to the info, didn't know what was an option

[bleak sky]

DoS this week is not fun

I don't wanna go back in there

[upbeat needle]

BFA 8.3: 1902 - 3/12M
SL 9.0: 1501 (2182 after rework) - 6/10M (DK)
SL 9.1 : 2481 - 10/10M

[viscid spear]

Far better than mine, lol

[upbeat needle]

eh

I probably just play more

[bleak sky]

time key +3 io

[viscid spear]

I'd have to look

[spice spire]

[upbeat needle]

I stopped pushing io but I really wanna go for 2600+ next season

well it'll be easier to obtain that number since Taza is getting in M+ rotation which means more score.

I wanna be timing 24s and up though

[gusty mirage]

thanks for the invite

[bleak sky]

but then you gotta adjust the number

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

double rogue on a DoS? NO WAY CHIEF

[alpine latch]

My goal was 2300 and I got it, so now my goal is 2400.

[gusty mirage]

WDYM

I got double 259s now

I BLAST

[viscid spear]

BFA 8.3: 1526 - 5/12M
SL 9.0: 999 - 10/10H
SL 9.1 : 2025- 3/10M

[bleak sky]

2400 is a step away palmer

[alpine latch]

Yeah I know

Something to work towards over the next few weeks!

[gusty mirage]

did more mythic than I did in all of bfa in one tier

[bleak sky]

youu time those fort keys and it's free io

you can prob get 2400 this week if you want honestly

[viscid spear]

That was the only raid I did any Mythic in that expansion, lol

[bleak sky]

halls dos are a little painful on explosive though

[viscid spear]

Well actually I did the first boss in Palace on Mythic but that was it

[bleak sky]

orb killing

[alpine latch]

Possibly. I only have 2 timed Fortified keys and my Mists is a 17 untimed.

[bleak sky]

yeah get that mist to a 20 and that's like 50 io

[alpine latch]

I have 3 untimed 19s, 2 untimed 18s, untimed 17 and an untimed 20

[viscid spear]

I literally just finished a +16 DoS and we had some orb trouble in the Manastorm hallway

[bleak sky]

i do be log watching

[alpine latch]

I'm 100% getting the rest of my portals this week.

[bleak sky]

the one with slimes or the one with dog?

[viscid spear]

I got murked by spinny boys and was running back when some orbs wiped the other 4

[bleak sky]

YEP

spinny bois on fort is pain

one spin = proc cheat

two spins = die

[spice spire]

Do I go for the 2500 this week mister minalba?

[viscid spear]

Apparently I was getting the majority of orbs w/o noticing

[bleak sky]

do it 😠

makeusproud

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

Like I actively made sure to switch but didn't notice how often I was doing it

[spice spire]

I’m a shitter when it comes to orb. 3 pack? Building with fan, tabbing orbs

[gusty mirage]

yeah for all the shit you talked you got some work to put in buddy

[spice spire]

Trust no one, especially your team mates

[gusty mirage]

literally gaped your score in a month

"sin IO check " every day

[viscid spear]

Other than that it was a fine run, the broker room was a bit tight because the BDK was pullhappy

[spice spire]

Gonna gape u irl pal I s2g

Also team died and you were unethically pushing

[viscid spear]

My score was like 1500 something at the start of the month

[spice spire]

Sorry for moving you to the light Homie

[bleak sky]

just pug

[spice spire]

Cba

[alpine latch]

Minal - I thought you had an Alliance rogue btw

[bleak sky]

I do!

[spice spire]

I play for the people, not the content.

[bleak sky]

It's matarindo but he's kinda dead

[spice spire]

Minalba has infinite toons

All 10/10M too

[bleak sky]

god I wish

[alpine latch]

Oh okay. I remember you mentioned that one of the carry Discords do Alliance in-house, but I looked you up and you're Horde

[bleak sky]

ya

[spice spire]

you have two don’t you?

[bleak sky]

I think it's just Huokan maybe?

I don't know for sure

[alpine latch]

I was going to ask you to run a key with me so you can tell me how much I suck

lol

I believe it's just Huokan. Starlight only does guild sales from what I've seen

[bleak sky]

if you're doing your 20s you don't suck

if you're doing your 15s you don't suck

[nocturne geode]

yeah palmer have faith bro you doing good

[alpine latch]

Oh, I suck. I just now know that I suck. When I was getting KSM I thought I was a beast

[bleak sky]

it's not about the outside rogue, it's the interior rogue

but if you're playing sub like the degen @gusty mirage you suck

[spice spire]

[nocturne geode]

oxi flamed my nf keys sadge

[bleak sky]

deserved

[spice spire]

We’ll fix him; mister minalba, promise

[bleak sky]

he's too far gone

[nocturne geode]

deserved?!

[gusty mirage]

yeah my b for wanting to time keys bro

next time I'll play kyrian sin

[spice spire]

[nocturne geode]

wanting to time? there been literally no issue

[spice spire]

Literally the most cringe of all combos

[viscid spear]

[gusty mirage]

as cringe as still playing necro in raid?

[alpine latch]

Leave him alone, he needs the shield or else he dies to mechanics

[nocturne geode]

out here fighting to be different and getting flamed is this 2022?

jk

😏

[gusty mirage]

we don't flame people for covenant choices

unless its kyrian

or you're @spice spire

[nocturne geode]

what would you call it then ? im not mad just poking

[gusty mirage]

what would I call what

[spice spire]

Beat my eye parse nerd.
I’m bad and can’t prog past it

But you can