assassination

[ripe shale]

“Busted”

[strange python]

Feral is strong as fuck.

[visual prairie]

there is a youtube video of a guy bursting to 70k on NW first pull with feral 4p. feral with actual AOE seems fun

[ripe shale]

But not busted

Yeah but every 2.5 minutes ?

[visual prairie]

feral discord estimates about a 1 minute reduction from 2 pc in single target. so every 2 minutes

[hollow river]

That’s an opinion

🙂

[visual prairie]

being able to burst aoe every 2 or so minutes is pretty strong in m+. way better than their current option of every never minutes

[ripe shale]

True true

Maybe im just too disconnected from the class now

[hollow river]

Yeah I feel that’s one of the reasons feral isn’t picked over assassination

[ripe shale]

I played it for 10 years . Just changed too much and the community perspective is garbage

[hollow river]

Yep

It’s weird

[ripe shale]

“Why no owl”
“Sorry thought u were Boommi”

Lel

[hollow river]

😦

[strange python]

If I was a raid leader I would bring feral over sin if cloak wasn't needed.

[ripe shale]

I literally didnt do 1 random key in bfa and legion xD

U just got kicked out xD

[hollow river]

[ripe shale]

I was and i always did.. the offheal was insane

[hollow river]

Rogue can do better aoe atm

Decent plus

[ripe shale]

And has shroud

[bleak sky]

Sin in M+ = pretty good

[hollow river]

Yeah

[ripe shale]

Shroud sap blind are pretty major point against feral imo

[bleak sky]

outside of inspiring sap has so few use cases tho

[hollow river]

True

The rest of our kit is insane in m+ tho

All our CC, and immunities

Vanish cheeses

[ripe shale]

Ah yeah question

[bleak sky]

not vanishing for the garrets?

[hollow river]

Depends

On which dungeon and where

[bleak sky]

every dungeonn

[ripe shale]

I saw alot of guides and people choosing 1 more defensive conduit over 3 dmg conduits why though ?

[hollow river]

I meant like my position in a dungeon when vanish comes off cd

[bleak sky]

conduits shouldn't matter, personal preference

[hollow river]

It’s better to use its utility > garrotes

[bleak sky]

like the only dungeon i'd kinda save vanish is SD for 2nd boss

to cancel that stupid circle damage

[ripe shale]

Yeah sometimes u can pull two groups of mobs and vanish so the others can pass. Only have bfa exp though

[bleak sky]

I don't think you'd ever do that

[ripe shale]

I dunno im not on a comfortable point of talking about SL mythics .. didnt do too much yet

[steel geyser]

There are so routes that use this trick, I can think of one DoS example, but anyway you don't really wanna do this if ur playing sin, it's such a big dmg cd.
If you're playing sub tho, yea vanish is whatever

[bleak sky]

where in dos

[steel geyser]

Skipping the 2 berserker in front of mechagon area

It's prob not the most popular nor the best route but it still exist. Had to do this on a 25 I reckon

There's a vanish trick on first boss of most too where you pull the 2 big guy in front, evasion tank them on un targettable boss until it triggers the boss then vanish

[bleak sky]

ya that trick is dope

[steel geyser]

So you can skip those2 big boys

[bleak sky]

but I guess you send mages to to them? idk

[steel geyser]

Yea mage of hunt can do it too

If ur playing sin Def not your job

[bleak sky]

but then these are like high high key tricks

idk if it applies

[steel geyser]

True

[ebon notch]

It's fixed btw

Tried it with both the tormentor and the two big dudes

Doesn't work anymore

[ebon notch]

If varruth is in mechagon then you definitely let someone else do it

I'd rather die than do varruth without evasion + vanish

[bleak sky]

varruth

[reef axle]

Too soon to say but is fae ahead in sims atm for 9.2? As the desired covenant?

[bleak sky]

It's in the pins. Fae is ahead but shouldn't be as the tier is prob getting nerfed.

[slow marsh]

Nf bad boooo who plays that cov

[bronze pike]

i like to keep my options open

[slow marsh]

I can tell judging by you being in sin channel 😉

How's that outlaw set doin

[bronze pike]

actually pretty fun

but currently bugged

with gsw and blunder being like 2ish % behind. i might just use those legos instead of cele lmao

but i like to check in on sin sometimes since i multi spec into that sometimes

[nocturne geode]

what this yellow name in here

shun them!

[bronze pike]

i shall never be silenced!!!

[nocturne geode]

kekw

[reef axle]

If someone garrottes you from stealth you will be.

[charred wraith]

use trinket hello?

[bleak sky]

what trinket

[ripe shale]

What does a yellow name mean ?

[bleak sky]

outlaw

[clever kindle]

chad outlaw players

[bleak sky]

[slow marsh]

I want ptr changes already

[bleak sky]

same

not for sin though

[slow marsh]

The thing is

I want to see what tuning they're gonna do

Cuz like sin 2p is undeniably too strong for a 2p but most all our power is in it right now

[bleak sky]

fair enough

changes I want to see:
60% for sin set
new havoc tier set

[bronze pike]

well odds are next week is the dk tier set changes, sub/sin/outlaw interaction and bug fixes, 1 tank change and 1 healer chaneg

i predict we wont see a havoc tier set change or a ret tier set bug fix until the end of the month

[clever kindle]

can someone refresh my memory on the necrolord fleshcraft bug for sylvanas I cant remember where I read it

[cerulean nest]

so KT blows

[clever kindle]

it feels bad until it doesnt

[slow marsh]

i want a 75% sin set if we aren't getting any tuning buffs

[oak sky]

I just want nf to not be bis

[slow marsh]

dw i don't think it will be

[humble ginkgo]

isnt the new sin set kinda fucking cracked

[slow marsh]

yeah

[oak sky]

Yeah

Maybe i should play sub next tier for variety

[humble ginkgo]

i saw sepsis doing 160k in 10seconds

gonna have to level night fae

[slow marsh]

yeah well about that. .. . .

[oak sky]

@slow marsh how were the bosses you did with whispyr

[slow marsh]

they were honestly really annoying

as a melee

but also i didn't press soulshape ever so that didn't help

[oak sky]

Dasausage looks cool

[slow marsh]

that one is fun conceptually and once people understand how it works it wont be as annoying

and we get vend for pretty much every shield so

[oak sky]

Cool

I caught whispyr playing ep ds

[slow marsh]

yeah he was

then i hear he was complaining the whole time about being washed

[bleak sky]

watching that was very

[oak sky]

Probably because he is

[bronze pike]

odds are that the tier set gets nerfed to 70-60

[slow marsh]

he just out of practice on sin i think

[bronze pike]

50% the least

[oak sky]

I said what i said

[slow marsh]

i don't think they'd nerf it to 50% without compensating somewhere

[bronze pike]

idk if nightfae will stil lbe on the table

[slow marsh]

i'm even kinda suspecting that lowering it to 60% is gonna hurt kind of a lot

[bronze pike]

but i hope it becomes equal to the other covens for people who enjoy the faries

[slow marsh]

Niya felt the best from what I tried today just because it's next to impossible to get decent uptime in flowers

[oak sky]

Nf soulbinds are not it

[slow marsh]

so i dont think NF will light a candle to full send venth

Venth you don't have to think about anything you can just press everything on cd, NF is a bit weird sometimes cuz shiv + sepsis

Sepsis does do nut damage but you have to set it up and even then it's just barely competing with venth. It'll be nice to have as an option for the fans, I just think that Venth gives so much more in its soulbinds + leggo

[thin trout]

I hope i dont have to swap covenants and can continue to no brain venthyr

[balmy condor]

simmed higher + cry about it

[oak sky]

W

[balmy condor]

ep ds beats ep mfd with 4 set for me

but y'all flaming me

like I don't know what I'm doing

[echo geyser]

Who

[slow marsh]

I see

Everything

[echo geyser]

Again

Who was it ice

[slow marsh]

@keen mist

[keen mist]

chu say

[echo geyser]

i got opps watching u speed

[inland hull]

2300 M+ score boys! Got my 2nd +20!

[bleak sky]

pog

[silk jewel]

Any one know some good rogue pov vod/video for mythic sylv?

[hoary remnant]

jpc played progression mythic sylv assa

[glass tulip]

^

[spice spire]

can you see your nonsense though mr. icebladesx?

[slow marsh]

I don't have any nonsense

[bleak sky]

i just learned that shadowdust leggo costs valor

[balmy condor]

[bleak sky]

i had no idea

was checking powers to see if I have everything kinda ready for 9.2

turns out I don't

[balmy condor]

Literally says “honor”

Dude says “valor”

Can be unlocked with research

[brazen zodiac]

hi whisypr

[bleak sky]

wait

[balmy condor]

Hello

[bleak sky]

it's 4 am and i'm in the stupid 50% of this discord ok whisp

[balmy condor]

You can be both

:)

100% dent brain

[bleak sky]

[oak sky]

wya that its 4am

[bleak sky]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-you-to-brazil-brazil-dragged-screaming-shotgun-gif-17781004

[oak sky]

brazil is 2 hr past est

TIL

[bleak sky]

playing with PST people is wild

[oak sky]

lets q it up you can have the experience

[bleak sky]

double rogue dungeons lets go

[oak sky]

i have a shitty monk too

but we probably wont ever do it anyway

[bleak sky]

why tho

[oak sky]

idk

[bleak sky]

my schedule is all fucked

in the middle of gearing a bdk but this week is kinda not fun, can't facetank

[glass tulip]

deathstrike doesnt go brrr on necrotic

[bleak sky]

it truly doesn't

[spice spire]

Bro bdk on necrotic

[abstract cargo]

Does the tier set work in pvp ?

[balmy condor]

Ye it should

Idk if you can queue pvp on ptr though

Never tried to

[abstract cargo]

well nf + 2p is kinda broken

[balmy condor]

Yeah in pvp I bet

[spice spire]

PvE 2 tho

[empty hinge]

But I don’t want to farm more renown

[strange python]

bro if i have to farm renown on NF as well....

[gusty adder]

Can someone confirm to me, that Sylvannas will start casting Ruin early in p2, if you get too near her? Asking cause it seems like that's the case - and it might fuck one side up on the bun-phase

[warm plover]

Never heard of this

[gusty adder]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TemperedBlightedYamGivePLZ-L8UlhDKkV6r90s0a

like here

you can see the Ruin-timer (left side on screen) go from 7 sec to instantly casting it

[warm plover]

Think it’s based on the side that is done first

[gusty adder]

Well, isnt it scripted timer from the time you start P2?

[balmy condor]

No

She will start casting when you complete one side

Regardless of timer

[gusty adder]

so like a 10 sec timer (or whatever it is) once one side is complete, to accomodate the bridgebuilding?

[balmy condor]

Sure

Idk

It’s not really important

You just have to kick the ruin when you complete the bridge

Cause she’s gonna cast

[gusty adder]

Surely - we just debating how to make sure both sides get there on the same time - and if we could just stand around for a few seconds before going onto bridge - if that didnt push the timer on ruin

[balmy condor]

Nah

You kill the add

And everything is automatic

The add dying starts the building, the building means she’s gonna cast ruin

If you want to slow

You’d have to tank the adds

Until you want to push

And you’d have to make sure you beat the natural ruin timer

[gusty adder]

alright - this is what I was looking for.

• but best thing would be to even the dps behind the sides then

[balmy condor]

Which is an enrage if you’re too slow on the platforms

Yeah

You want to finish at the same time so you can all burn at once

A couple seconds off is fine obviously it doesn’t have to be exact

[gusty adder]

Nah exactly - but thanks alot! 🙂

[abstract cargo]

there is no test with MA leg ?

[zenith sable]

which soulbind is best rn for ptr assa
weaver?

[arctic cloud]

Man why does Sepsis have to suck i dont wanna play venth

[warm drift]

[thin trout]

I just had this random thought that asassin this tier was alot more of what I would expect of Outlaw to be - coinflipping doublecrits from mutilates during burst windows

Insert mind blown gif

[ancient gulch]

In raids as assa Do u save each flag as venth vendetta or Do u use it once beetwen ?

For vendetta

[hollow river]

You only sync them if you won’t lose extra flag casts

Depends on fight timers

But a lot of the time you can sync the last Flag and Vendetta of a fight

As well

[ancient gulch]

I just feel every time i use flag off cd it desyncs with vendetta around 20 sec

[slow marsh]

Yeah that's fine on a longer fight

You want more casts of flag if you can get them

If it's a quick fight then hold flag to sync

[ancient gulch]

Alright ty. Do i delay the use of vendett then in longer fights to sync it with flag ?

[slow marsh]

No

Just the last one

Or if they're like 10s from each other

But you'll be better off full sending everything if it means you're waiting to think about it

[ancient gulch]

Okey thanks alot!

[hollow river]

Even on some shorter fights it’s better to use flag on CD

Not too short tho ofc

[spark scaffold]

What you mean by short

[slow marsh]

Like if you won't get the full use of syncing at the end

Just depends on timings and it can be annoying

It's why I just use obed most of the time and sync every other

[spark scaffold]

I mean yeah thats easier if you dont know the fight timers

Generally though anything under 5 min i'd sync and maybe solo flag in the end if im not getting full vendetta

[hollow river]

Like 3-4 minutes

If a fight is over 3:30 or so, it can be better to desync flag

It’s pretty easy to judge timers and timings tbh

Some fights kinda throw things off

Like Fate

Push timings and even intermission timers can be quite different

[spark scaffold]

sure, up to 3:30 always sync, 3:30-4:25 desync, 4:25 to 4:50 sync and anything over is desync

but like you said, fatescribe, painsmith and some other fights like if you go down on remnant (of kt) is always sync just because of how the fight plays out

[kindred rapids]

How is 3:30 always sync lol

But yeah gotta do in what makes sense for the fight

[limber lion]

Meaning you sync Vend with Flag everytime when possible

So you hold second Vend for third Flag

[hollow river]

He means under I guess

[limber lion]

00:00 Vend/Flag
01:30 Flag
03:00 Vend/Flag

[hollow river]

Ye

You sync last cast

[spark scaffold]

yeah i wasn't very clear

[alpine latch]

I wonder how far I can push Sin in keys...

[hollow river]

But you desync 2nd flag

[kindred rapids]

Wouldn't that make sense up to 4 min?

[spark scaffold]

yeah it would

you're right

[hollow river]

We weren’t talking about only syncing last casts at first

We were talking about hard syncing every cast

[spark scaffold]

hard syncing is only ever worth on under 3 min fights

which never happens in raid

[hollow river]

That for example you only do if the fight is under 3min basically

Yea it does lol

Heroic sale run parses ftw

Terragrue and Guardian

Even on Mythic i think?

[spark scaffold]

mythic tarra yeah i have some 3 min fights

i'm sure it depends on your raid group aswell just talking about what i've experienced 😛

remnant of nerzhul is also pretty close to 3 min

[kindred rapids]

Just get faeries and sync every cast

[hollow river]

Yeah Remnant not Guardian my bad

[hollow river]

No unethical gamers here sorry

[gusty mirage]

True and kindred

[hollow river]

We hit bosses raw

[gusty mirage]

Just whore yourself for externals

[hollow river]

[kindred rapids]

I wish 😩

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

I got KA last night

3rd sylv sale

[gusty mirage]

I got jebaited by our boomkin he said he’d KA me but then during raid he said “oh I thought you meant during keys”

[hollow river]

My guild sold 10/10 and 3 aotc’s last night @gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

I’ve ran like 2 keys with him

[hollow river]

We got 75k splits

[kindred rapids]

Our only Boomie is venthyr

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

Damn sales just ain’t what they used to be huh

[kindred rapids]

I'm pretty sure our raid DPS would go up if they went kyrian

[kindred rapids]

Did you end up downing sylv?

[gusty mirage]

Aotcs selling for 60k these days

[hollow river]

It was way diff from Huokans in house sales. We only carried 3 people at a time, Huokan was kinda giving us a test run to see our speed and efficiency.

We did very well though.

[hollow river]

Heroic? Or you mean Mythic

My guild killed it the one night ever I missed raid.

[kindred rapids]

Oh no

[hollow river]

Yeah so after 550 pulls I didn’t get it personally

[kindred rapids]

Oof

[hollow river]

Been in reclear waiting room

For two weeks now

[kindred rapids]

Heh

[hollow river]

We killed 5/10 last week

And 7/10 this week

[kindred rapids]

Finally got 10/10 this week. Reclear took 2 weeks 😫

[hollow river]

Because we switched down to 2 days to give everyone a bit of a break

We’re going back to 3 days I think next week

[hollow river]

Pog gratz man

[kindred rapids]

Working on our second kill now

[hollow river]

[kindred rapids]

Thanks!

Tarnished my logs with a grey parse on fatescribe, lol

Hate that fight

[hollow river]

Lol

Fuck parsing

In this raid it’s so trash

Terragrue, the Eye, Fate and KT

[kindred rapids]

Yeah, just several fights were it's really annoying

[hollow river]

All those parses are pointless imo

Yeah I agree

[kindred rapids]

The eye is ok

[hollow river]

Some mechanics fuck you too hard

[drifting cloud]

why the eye? 😄

[hollow river]

Because there are many different strats for the Eye

[kindred rapids]

Nine is worse imo

[hollow river]

Making it sometimes hard to parse on

[drifting cloud]

even the worse strat doesnt kill your parse

esp as a rogue where the intermission mechanic doesnt exist

[hollow river]

My guild made us hold CDs on pull on the Eye

To CD intermission adds

Last weeks reclear

Cringe as fuck

[drifting cloud]

thats just dumb

[kindred rapids]

Even sylv parsing feels bad

[thorny pond]

“Ok boss”
sends vendetta

[drifting cloud]

thats a guild fault not the boss 😛

[kindred rapids]

Since it's mostly pad

[hollow river]

I hate the boss so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kindred rapids]

On our kill I did 9.8k P3 but only 7.8k overall.

Wish there was P3 only parses

[hollow river]

Idk if my guilds kill time was bad or what

My dps was somewhat low on sylv

Like would’ve finished the fight around 7k sometimes

[kindred rapids]

Painsmith is probably my favorite boss to parse on.

[drifting cloud]

9.8 on first kill? sounds like external gaming

[hollow river]

We were hitting enrage

[hollow river]

🤮

[limber lion]

I improved my dps on Sylv by quite a bit yesterday.

[drifting cloud]

oh shit public cev logs

[hollow river]

[hollow river]

Finally

[limber lion]

Got r1 with 8.7k a few months ago. Did 9.3k this pull and it's a 96

Sadge

Externals

[drifting cloud]

96 on sylvn thats what prolly top50 log lul

just no # of parses

[limber lion]

Let me go check, I'm curious

[kindred rapids]

You got me, I got 2 PIs 😂

[drifting cloud]

yeah 1.2k total logs on sylv

so if you want a 99 you have to get top 12 😄

which youre not getting without ka

[limber lion]

Yeh, around 39 or something

[kindred rapids]

This kill I might get faeries... 4 vendettas in P3 should be fun.

[limber lion]

Will have to pad harder next timr

Colour just goes ham so you miss out on some casts

First Vend 00:03

Second Vend at 04:25

[hollow river]

That’s rough

[kindred rapids]

I have to save vendetta for colossus...

[limber lion]

Over 2 minutes of holding Vend

Hah

[kindred rapids]

Only got 1 cast in p2 on our kill

[limber lion]

I enjoy the speediness though for surr

[drifting cloud]

whats 4:25, first burn?

[kindred rapids]

We split 7 / 13 on the last add platform, lol

[limber lion]

First burn yeah

First Vend on opener, second on first burn

[drifting cloud]

thats pretty common manwich if you have a boomie cd colossus

[limber lion]

Third on second burn

[hollow river]

That’s cringe. Couldn’t you CD Goliath?

[kindred rapids]

We don't, it's me and a fire mage doing the majority of colossus dam

No it's like 1:30 from first to second add platform.

[hollow river]

Ahh

Damn man

[drifting cloud]

having to vendetta colossus is just the worst thing you raid can assign you to

[hollow river]

That’s such a waste

Yeah

[drifting cloud]

you literally lose a cast for nothing

[kindred rapids]

If we kill with our new priest trial I'll ask for faeries so I actually will be able to use it there

[drifting cloud]

which would be used for boss dmg

[hollow river]

There’s other specs that’d be better for colossus isn’t there

[drifting cloud]

assa is fine, just vendetta on it isnt

[kindred rapids]

I mean yeah I could be pushing so much more boss dam, missing 2 vendettas on boss. But our boss dam is fine, it was worth it for us just to have an easier time with the second adds.

One of the hardest parts of the fight for us for some reason

And I can't convince anyone else to save CDs for colossus.

[hollow river]

Would subs CDs line up better

Could try that maybe

Idk p2 boss damage didn’t usually matter if you’re pushing it well

Just cringe tbh

[kindred rapids]

Yeah we get to around 77 usually

[hollow river]

We were almost pushing her early

[kindred rapids]

Make up for it big P3 dmg

[hollow river]

Damn near had to stop dps 2nd burn

[kindred rapids]

It's cringe I know but it's worked for us 😂

[hollow river]

Boss died though so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kindred rapids]

Yeah

We killed pretty early as well

Had like plenty of time left

[hollow river]

Nice

[kindred rapids]

Cev I didn't know you were still raiding

[hollow river]

My guild got her passed 45% but still got the enrage mechanic

So she died after casting it

[drifting cloud]

I mean p2 boss dmg is p3 boss dmg and assa using 1 vendetta on colossus means you cant use 2 vendettas on sylvn

while getting same amount of casts in p3

its pretty bad

[hollow river]

Yeah I agree

[kindred rapids]

Yeah I know, it's not ideal

[drifting cloud]

but like did you not have a boomie

or what

[hollow river]

Nope

He didn’t

[drifting cloud]

unfort

[kindred rapids]

Boomie goes right

[drifting cloud]

thats just dumb

[hollow river]

Ok that’s stupid

Actually dumb

[kindred rapids]

Lol

[limber lion]

I very recently joined Colour to raid with them.

[hollow river]

Your RL is on one lmao

[kindred rapids]

Nice!

[limber lion]

I think I can raid fine on a slightly more casual level. 1 raid day during farm, 3 raid days during prog.

Instead of 3-4 raid days during farm and 7 raid days during prog

[drifting cloud]

wow the boomie even cds right side

this is some next level inting

[hollow river]

I’ve never seen a log of a guild doing that kinda shit

[nocturne geode]

keep me in your thoughts bois admitted to the hosp day 5 of covid shook me

[hollow river]

Literally any amount of research would show you where CDs need to be

[hollow river]

Hope you get well soon king

[drifting cloud]

honestly props you even manage to kill the colossus same day as right side is done

[kindred rapids]

I gotta stop getting my guild flamed

Good boonies are just hard to come by

[hollow river]

[drifting cloud]

I mean its kinda on the rl, or even whole guild

[hollow river]

Not flaming

[drifting cloud]

did nobody check a prog log

[hollow river]

But that’s just not good

[nocturne geode]

ohh yikes Manwich

[drifting cloud]

ive done p2 with 1-3 boomies split between both sides in probably ever possible combo

weve never done 1 boomie right cd, 0 boomie left

[kindred rapids]

Colossus dmg for your amusement https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/n1NLCz7fpTP8wVKk#fight=14&type=damage-done&target=95

[nocturne geode]

[gusty mirage]

[nocturne geode]

you should be cd'ing sylv burns

sus plans

[hollow river]

He knows

[drifting cloud]

and the demo obv doesnt cd 🙈

[hollow river]

🤮

[kindred rapids]

Love how much this is upsetting y'all 😂

[drifting cloud]

I mean its just next level silly

[gusty mirage]

As silly as my old guild’s 4th plat strat to afk arrows in the corner where melee are doing no dps?

[drifting cloud]

yes this is worse tbh

it probably cost them so many tries on prog

[gusty mirage]

I never have to deal with colossus again

[kindred rapids]

It's okay we only had one 45% wipe

[drifting cloud]

its just extra funny because you also have 5 hunters

and like 4 of them cd boss??

[gusty mirage]

Our boy’s getting griefed

[drifting cloud]

I mean if it works it works I guess

[kindred rapids]

Believe me I've asked for people to do more colossus dam

Just not as fun as hitting boss I suppose

[gusty mirage]

Meh as long as the boss dies

[kindred rapids]

I'm just glad I'll at least be able to vendetta souljudge now that I can get faeries

[gusty mirage]

That’s really all that matters

[kindred rapids]

True

[gusty mirage]

Just kinda sucks that you’re getting griefed

Cuz other dps are apes

[drifting cloud]

like I said its the rls fault mostly

[gusty mirage]

Agreed

[drifting cloud]

its just insane it even happens when you have a boomie

[gusty mirage]

Yeah esp cuz boomie can essentially solo it

[kindred rapids]

I think we just never put a lot of thought into who should be saving CDs for second adds.

So it just came down to whoever figured out first that we needed more dmg there

[drifting cloud]

yeah it just shifts the whole phase

cuz like the biggest insanity is you have 5 hunters and only 1 of them is cding platforms

so the 4 hunters are playing like a rogue

and youre playing like a hunter except youre not on the aoe platform

[kindred rapids]

Hmm

So hunters were initially cding first adds, and eventually shifted to the boss since we were ahead on adds.

I wasn't able to convince anyone to hold CDs for second adds instead.

Didn't really think about Boomie CDs lining up well for Goliath.

Cuz they'll still get two rf in P3

[limber lion]

And still lose to an assa rogue in p3 damage

[kindred rapids]

I mean who doesn't

At least I can always come here to complain

[limber lion]

Oh nvm, apparently I only did 9150 dps throughout the entire Sylv pull

Guess I'm washed.

[kindred rapids]

Oof

[limber lion]

I can't wait to get a second dagger, shoulders and phial

I would love to see what I could do with literal bis gear.

[drifting cloud]

phial

you better not be doing dungeons

[limber lion]

any weekly no leavers in the chat

[gusty mirage]

TRUE

I’m a boomie slayer in p3 now

[kindred rapids]

I have bis gear if you ignore the last 5 bosses in raid!

252 phial, arachnid, fcm, signet of melandrus

[rotund oak]

[gusty mirage]

I need KT neck and second dagger and I have bis gear

And a 252 phial but I’m not holding my breath. Haven’t seen a max phial all expac

[limber lion]

[kindred rapids]

Wow Colour rocking 3 rogues?

[gusty mirage]

They have for a good while now

[limber lion]

Yup, Kebabstab is an alt though

... even though he has much better gear than I do

[rotund oak]

what person

names his rogue

[gusty mirage]

You also have been on vacation for like 3 months lmao

[rotund oak]

kebabstab

[gusty mirage]

A gamer that’s who

[kindred rapids]

I was gonna say, you're gonna get push benched!

[limber lion]

Nah, Push is a godgamer

He's also an officer

[nocturne geode]

wait cev is back back??

[kindred rapids]

Yeah that always helps

In my experience

[nocturne geode]

i thought you were still on extended vacation 🤔

[rotund oak]

Cev is always here,u just need to ''taunt'' him a bit

am i right or am i right 😛

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-theon-greyjoy-what-is-dead-may-never-die-gif-15558913

this is cev

[limber lion]

:D

Yeah, I'm still playing a bit.

[kindred rapids]

Just gotta call him washed up to get him back on the grind

[nocturne geode]

it was tier sets wasnt it cev

[kindred rapids]

The promise of mastery stacking lured him back

[gusty mirage]

we’re glad to have you back

[kindred rapids]

Or was it the idea of using sepsis

[limber lion]

Tier sets and double leggos definitely help the case

But I just thought that with covid going rampant again, I'll have more time to play WoW a bit

Can't do 16 hours a day anymore, but 3 hours a week is just enough for me :P

[alpine latch]

I'm just hoping to kill Mythic Painsmith finally 😢

[nocturne geode]

the rekill is worse than the first kill trust

[limber lion]

But yeah, doing a raid and sims after the fact just made my hatred towards externals even worse than it was before

I didn't realize PI was fucking 700+ dps for Assa. I had simmed it countless times before and it was always max 300 dps.

I got new best scores on literally every single boss

but somehow I didn't get a single 99.

I'm a purple gamer now I guess, unlucky.

[kindred rapids]

Yeah Cev it's 750 DPS on my profile

[nocturne geode]

ohh here i show you someone who got thier monies worth this guy bought a full raid myrhic clear parse run decent player just wanted to parse so he bought it w gold

[kindred rapids]

And I'm only 250 ilvl

[limber lion]

Yeah, this guy's a bit of a meme

[nocturne geode]

79 externals on sylv

[gusty mirage]

You need god tier rng with procs to hit a 99 now

Externals kinda fucked everything

Beating sim dps used to be a 99 and now it’s like a 90 lol

[nocturne geode]

thats why i was saying i wish there was a way to seperate that better in wcl

literally bs to get good parses mid-late tier if you make to to a boss late

[limber lion]

Yeah it's awful. I legit got excited everytime Details popped up with "You did XXX damage. This is a new best score!"

only to realize it was a purple or a low orange parse.

What a time to be alive.

[kindred rapids]

There's a PI spreadsheet going around that has assa at like 550 for some reason.

[gusty mirage]

Me on guardian every week

11.8k is a 89 parse

[limber lion]

Oh I improved my, previously rank 1, parse by 300 dps????

that must be fucking huge

ooops

just kidding

haha

[nocturne geode]

bet it was purple

kekw

[limber lion]

Yeh not great

[gusty mirage]

It just sucks

[kindred rapids]

I mean the key to parsing is and always has been to clear early and often

[limber lion]

I mean purple and orange is fine for many, but I'm honestly not a purple/orange gamer.

[nocturne geode]

literal trash w externals tho

[gusty mirage]

Do more damage and parse lower

[limber lion]

I can just imagine people who would normally parse orange to be parsing blue now

And that must suck massive cock

[nocturne geode]

that my prob atm

barely purp

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

I killed my median on guardian and nerzhul from purple avg to blue because of this shit

[limber lion]

Yeah, I got r1 on every single boss during prog, except Tarra/Eye, which I got r1 a week or two after.

But even with beautiful high rankings previously, I don't want to sit here parsing purple currently

[gusty mirage]

That’s actually a tragedy that you’re hitting purples beating your previous r1s

[limber lion]

I want to find ways to improve myself and always do better than I did last week

[gusty mirage]

This externals shit is ridiculous

[limber lion]

And with the logs filled with externals, it's hard to do that

It's hard to find ways to improve yourself when the only logical improvement is to beg for an external

[gusty mirage]

I’m like 1 of 5 people in the top 50 of the nine with zero externals

Like wtf

[limber lion]

Yeah, you actually got me beat on The Nine

;)

[gusty mirage]

I did nothing different than I usually do

No idea how that even happened

[limber lion]

Also, shards are fucking rng as shit as well

I can't wait for 9.2 when we get tier sets and double legos, which are not rng

[nocturne geode]

yea its just mind numbing having a 10-11K+ pull and it being blue/purple

[limber lion]

I hate doing my opener on Sylv and seeing a 60k winds proc

[gusty mirage]

Just like my best p1 pull with 3 winds crits in a row. Going into p2 at 10.5

Never saw that again

[limber lion]

I didn't even get WFT during our raid

which is sadge

[junior rampart]

Wtf! 90k dps on Tarraque?

[nocturne geode]

guy paid for a parse run

@junior rampart

[gusty mirage]

Anything is possible if you have an entire raid helping you parse

[kindred rapids]

Ugh, haven't gotten wf on anything after painsmith

One of our hunters is rerolling enh but is still getting geared

Wf easily puts me above 10k on sylv P3

[nocturne geode]

yea def sho love to your enhance shamm if he good enough to be there his sacrifice is appreciated

[kindred rapids]

Enh is looking pretty good for 9.2 I've heard

[nocturne geode]

yea there just squishy

almost like asking a spriest to not be squishy on gaurdian

🙂

[solid mica]

For real

[kindred rapids]

Like 19 twisted samoflanges?

Lol

I really need to figure out how to get externals on guardian

My 11.3k is somehow a blue parse

[slow marsh]

I think on paper sure

So is surv hunter

But nobody plays them really well is the problem

[junior rampart]

Still it's insane to hit 90k dps. I'm still trying to digest it.

[slow marsh]

And it seems next raid is a lot less melee friendly already so we will maybe be back to limited slots

[kindred rapids]

Ugh really?

[slow marsh]

My testing yesterday we had like 4-5 melee and it was really congested

Lots of melee puddles and such

Of course those fights won't determine comp for the tier but not a great sign

[trail locust]

@limber lion hello i found this guide on method page did you write it

[limber lion]

hello maybe

[humble ginkgo]

u backj to wow?

[viscid spear]

Brother slammed a curb while we were going to work so now I have a day off

[limber lion]

yus

[humble ginkgo]

[stray oasis]

I want 4cp before casting flag right?

Where is the best guide?

[charred wraith]

i remember you saying that if you return, its gonna be in next expansion

[gusty mirage]

wowhead and the method guides are the most recently updated

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[charred wraith]

and oxi not green anymore

[viscid spear]

oxi is a peach

🍑

[charred wraith]

🍑

[viscid spear]

I'ma change my name rq, or add to it more specifically

[arctic walrus]

Competition was getting stale welcome to the public log arena 🤝

[viscid spear]

[drifting cloud]

put som effort in

and stop playing outlaw in raid

[arctic walrus]

This you?

[drifting cloud]

probably

[gusty mirage]

externals knocked my parse down 10 ranks

from 40 to 50

[drifting cloud]

10k p3 when vel??

[arctic walrus]

Why chase rank 1 on a spec when o can top 10 on 3 instead

[gusty mirage]

vel playing outlaw is so he can dunk on skip

[arctic walrus]

Skip arrowEd my raid

[gusty mirage]

the man is on a mission

[arctic walrus]

All it took was one week nbd

[gusty mirage]

did you arrow your raid by accident on sylv?

[drifting cloud]

"accident"

[arctic walrus]

No but i do get arrow

And I ain’t tryna repeat a 10 minute pull at that point

[gusty mirage]

damn already a better team player than skip

[drifting cloud]

everytime we wipe to arrow I want to uninstall

such a fucking easy mechanic if you dont understand it after 3months of farm

pls jump off the platform

[gusty mirage]

if only there was a weakaura they could get that has "DONE" in giant letters in the middle of their screen

that's been around for like 5 months now

[outer cairn]

So my understanding of the reason why we pool outside of of shiv is so we aren't clipping our envenoms. Is it a huge diff in dps?

[drifting cloud]

that wa might have been made by my gm even ...

[gusty mirage]

[drifting cloud]

well theres probably more than 1

[gusty mirage]

every time someone does that I just link the WA

"You seem like you need this"

[drifting cloud]

bro its actually made by my gm

https://wago.io/SJldE9s58

[gusty mirage]

lmfaooooooooo

[drifting cloud]

END ME

[viscid spear]

Humor me, what's "arrowing"?

[gusty mirage]

the arrows that sylv shoots out

[viscid spear]

Oh wait, from the Sylv encounter

[gusty mirage]

ye

[viscid spear]

I saw the WA posted and it clicked

[gusty mirage]

does damage based on proximity

[viscid spear]

I just jump over at 3s left but I almost always have to burn a defensive

Like I'm always a sliver from death

[limber lion]

Thank you, Mr. Night Elf Outlaw Rogue

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/oof-ooooof-gif-12896777

[viscid spear]

I don't even like Outlaw yet my Outlaw weapons are better than my daggers

[nocturne geode]

ash just for you im am back venthyr for now

[viscid spear]

[nocturne geode]

since you were so nice about it

[viscid spear]

Isn't NF very good for Outlaw?

[gusty mirage]

no

[viscid spear]

Probably Kyrian, isn't it

[fallen fable]

Anyone tried PTR last night? I did few pulls on skolex but it was too big shitshow in melee to focus on dps. How does Assasin feels now after tier rework?

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

[viscid spear]

I have never been Kyrian besides the brief period during leveling

[nocturne geode]

i watched icebladess troll whispyr

[spark scaffold]

It feels pretty good @fallen fable

[nocturne geode]

by playing nf and being top dam

[spark scaffold]

But its 200 ping for eu

Also we had 2 monks who couldnt use sof bc it spawns pools from the spit

🤣

[viscid spear]

Can't I just be Venthyr Outlaw?

[bronze pike]

with dreadblades :3c

[fallen fable]

I just tried regular setup like here on live. Venthyr and dashing lego. Felt nice. Idk if nf is better or some other lego.

[viscid spear]

I'ma try Outlaw out a bit for shits and giggles

[arctic walrus]

Okay rank 2 nonexternaled remnant

@limber lion

[fallen fable]

Is there some known schedules for raid testing or its just random when they announce it

[limber lion]

hacker man

[glass tulip]

What did I miss and why is oxi not green🧐

[timid cloud]

Oxi couldn’t take the pressure anymore.

Couldn’t reform.

[subtle tundra]

noober

[glass tulip]

Smoge

[timid cloud]

Too tOxic

[rancid spade]

where is the 9.2 waiting room channel?

[pure moth]

in the threads area

[spark scaffold]

Alacrity and SnD prepull from urns?

[limber lion]

We use the threads for the copium

[stray oasis]

Is there a guide m+ simming

[limber lion]

Just use Dungeon Slice to sim for m+.

And sim multiple targets (target dummies) with short fight lengths

That's about it

Just copy what the big boys at the top are doing and you're gucci

[arctic walrus]

Mfd

[stray oasis]

Kk ty

[spark scaffold]

Yeah I'm aware how you do it also posted it here few days ago

[timid cloud]

I wish d-slice was optimized for other classes like it is for Rogue.

[stray oasis]

Why is it optimal for rogues?

[soft shale]

really good tc people over here

and a lot of us testing shit

and giving ideaas

[limber lion]

Because the theorycrafters have crafted the entire rogue apl around different fight styles, not just patchwork.

[vestal wren]

to be fair, its easy to find out if a class is supported or not

if the class is fine running multi target sims and fight styles with add events it should have no issues to run dungeonslice

opinions on wether they like the results or not depend

[rancid spade]

the best tc are or play rogue

[stray oasis]

How do I find his anima powers?

Thanks for the help boys.

[soft shale]

for m+ powers you pick necrotic dagger and depending on affixes and dungeon brand or bolstering ring

[stray oasis]

Kk ty

[soft shale]

follow and subscribe smash that like button

and uh

keep the shivs up

[gusty mirage]

infexious jr over here

[soft shale]

imagine someone goes to my channel only to find cringe videos of osu! from 5 years ago

jebaited

[balmy condor]

Got it, dashing fae, saw nothingcold play it in mists

[soft shale]

sometimes you gotta bite the bully bullet and be the cov bitch

hats off to the sub necros and kyrian assa rogues

your suffering will be remembered

[gusty mirage]

jebaited? that's the content I actually wanted

[soft shale]

once upon a time i wanted to make wow videos

[limber lion]

good

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

LUL

Good one Minalba

[bleak sky]

Whispyr had made the same joke fuck me

Can't even type before reading the whole chat

[viscid spear]

With Echoing Reprimand it's only the one time a CP lights up, right? Once you hit that that's all?

[soft shale]

yes

unless you play resounding clarity you only get 1 animacharged combo point

[balmy condor]

Is that an invitation

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

[thorny pond]

He’s gonna add a new chapter to your lore master

[viscid spear]

"The Lusty Argonian Maid"

[bleak sky]

n-n-no you silly....

[spice spire]

B-bro?

[thorny pond]

yes, loin master?

[alpine latch]

Whispyr would make it Quake for days

[balmy condor]

Me (an empath) noticing @spice spire’s ass is empty

[thorny pond]

we don't have a channel for this

[static pier]

the channel is literally called ass ass nation

what do you mean

[bleak sky]

and he bout to assassinate that ass

[balmy condor]

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sign-of-the-cross-praying-hoping-nico-santos-gif-21421248

[static pier]

only true bussy slayers play sin

[thorny pond]

difference between "bussy" and "bussin"?

[static pier]

one's a noun and one's an adjective

for example one might say "Sheeeesh, this bussy is BUSSIN"

[thorny pond]

etymology of both please

[balmy condor]

Bussy is boy pussy
Bussin is busting as In busting a nut, to mean something very pleasurable and good

[thorny pond]

So like trash can't be bussin, gotta be a positive thing

[balmy condor]

Correct

[static pier]

exactly

[balmy condor]

Your dps could be bussin

[thorny pond]

Sounds latin

[balmy condor]

Or getting a ka is bussin

But dying on prog is not bussin

[oak sky]

Slayin bussy is bussin

Wait

[static pier]

exactly!

[balmy condor]

True king

Boyboss shit right there

[thorny pond]

Thank you for the semen-tics lesson

[nocturne geode]

@balmy condor good stream yesterday for the ptr your rants and facial expression from @slow marsh trolling were perfect haha i hope your sanity is alright

❤️

also in your honor i will stop trolling about it for 1 week

i have even swapped back to venthyr

[spice spire]

What the fuck happened

Y’all some horny mfers on a Friday

[bleak sky]

you want some? sounds like you want some

[spice spire]

N-no mr. minalba

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-mad-angry-guardians-of-the-galaxy-chris-pratt-gif-5776790

[slow marsh]

I want to be horny

[alpine latch]

Yikes bro, we don't talk like that here

Show some respect

[slow marsh]

[alpine latch]

roflmao

[slow marsh]

We most certainly do

[alpine latch]

You's a busta

[spice spire]

Dudes be married and hitting on other rogues

On god

[alpine latch]

What's wrong with that?

[slow marsh]

He's just jealous that he hasn't locked it down and I have

[thorny pond]

it ain't cheating, you just window shopping

[slow marsh]

Also just cuz I said I want to be horny doesn't mean anything

[glass tulip]

I don't even need to be on my rogue, I'd take Sylvanas' dagger any day

[oak sky]

💀

[slow marsh]

[nocturne geode]

WTF

best becareful iceblades sap dat azz

https://tenor.com/view/eftey-tree-population-100q-apen-tree-100q-pine-tree-100q-birth-tree-gif-17331970

[slow marsh]

That looks like a night fae player

[nocturne geode]

lemme get the vod of you playing it one sec jk

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-simpsons-bush-bushes-hermit-gif-5786484

[slow marsh]

[spice spire]

Finna lock you down if you make me act up one more time

[slow marsh]

Uwu

[alpine latch]

Oh baby, don't threaten him with a good time

[bleak sky]

ok so they changed havoc, good

now blizz nerfs us to 60% and we're 100% happy

[cobalt hemlock]

You want to tell me you are going to be unhappy if we dont get nerfed?

[slow marsh]

well we are getting nerfed so

[bleak sky]

not being nerfed is not an option I think

[cobalt hemlock]

I see yeah making the set still good would be nice

[bleak sky]

60% does not make the set bad lol

[gusty mirage]

if you'd like we can ask scari to go back to the 25% crit on bleeds

[slow marsh]

6s on meta kekw

Oxi be salty lately

[gusty mirage]

Your projection is a weird response to what I said

but ok

[cobalt hemlock]

Didnt mean that. Sorry if i confused you

Was talking im general

[oak sky]

they probably want all the sets to be similar power level so they can make base tuning more effective which helps people that dont get the set for a while

[restive raptor]

@dire spoke assa bis now? plz sai

[soft shale]

[nimble tartan]

am i red man next tier bro

[bleak sky]

3 blues

[oak sky]

prodigal son returns

[gusty mirage]

they're in free fall cause their tier set sucks

[dire spoke]

yes

[nimble tartan]

im ready to stab asses again (red edition)

(midmax remix)

[viscid spear]

You're blue (da ba dee da ba di).

[radiant thicket]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[solid mica]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[scenic osprey]

I tired OL last night and decided to main sin 9.2 LOL

[limber lion]

Good.

[scenic osprey]

too much brian work like decided if reroll etc lol

[bleak sky]

keep pairs and up, reroll bad singles, keep good singles tho?

[scenic osprey]

yeah thats the triky part and also i think OL is the most RNG spec in the game

i had 5 buffs 2 times in a row then another segment had mostly 1 s o

[bleak sky]

[solid mica]

Just imagine trying to flag for big damn when all you got is grand melee fresh roll

[bleak sky]

that's on you for playing venth outlaw tho right

[thick briar]

OI MATES

necro vs venthyr in pve

does that work on the bone spike aswell?

[limber lion]

Venthyr

[limber lion]

That's the wrong tier set to begin with

It's been changed since then

But yes, both bonuses should work on SBS eventually.

[arctic walrus]

He at least had the guide opened you shouldnt have spoiled

[limber lion]

[thick briar]

Isnt it the 9.2 tier set?

[proven brook]

It got updated

[bleak sky]

2 set: Shiv's debuff causes your bleeds and poisons against all targets within 15 yards to gain 100% damage for 9 seconds.
4 set: Vendetta causes Poisons and Bleeds on your target to expire 100% faster.

[thick briar]

ahhh okey

[thick briar]

this sounds insane tho

[limber lion]

It sure is, that's why it's getting nerfed.

[thick briar]

shit

[balmy condor]

pins are more up to date

[echo geyser]

NF is coming

[balmy condor]

if you ever are unsure

bad part about writing first impressions is that they're static

things change and it's just not applicable anymore

[slow marsh]

true if they fix sepsis

[echo geyser]

hi ice

[slow marsh]

👋

have you played it on ptr?

[soft shale]

tbh sin has the easiest time to snap sepsis with toxic onslaugh

as blades and ar are self buffs

also conduit does a lot of dmg on initial ticks

[bleak sky]

what's broken on sepsis?

[balmy condor]

it plays like shit

[echo geyser]

im not a ptr gamer

[slow marsh]

the stealth thing

[slow marsh]

you're missing out

[bleak sky]

oh yeah

you guys were also talking about something with celerity/adrenaline rush

does that come into play or nah

[slow marsh]

probably not cuz dusk

[bleak sky]

something something cdr fix on AR

[slow marsh]

yeah the global reduction doesn't work for AR on TO

[balmy condor]

AR and Blades both don't work like they do on either of their specs

[slow marsh]

which would be kinda huge since we're energy capped the whole time

[balmy condor]

and it makes TO a piece of shit

[bleak sky]

but those not working has to be a bug, right?

[slow marsh]

it would make a shitty leggo a little bit less shitty

[balmy condor]

no, it was intended

[bleak sky]

they wouldn't just implement shittier versions

oh

nvm then

[balmy condor]

because they changed it originally since celerity worked for other specs

and was good

[bleak sky]

oh that's the celerity thing

[balmy condor]

and they were like hold on that's not good

we need to whitelist AR

[bleak sky]

yeah it's all wrapped up in my head now thanks

[balmy condor]

and so they whitelisted AR