assassination

[marble hemlock]

speed did

[limber lion]

Man's got fans

[marble hemlock]

sneaky bastard

deleted the ping

[oak sky]

we have a new dagger

[hardy dagger]

Is fire nature dmg

[limber lion]

2 daggers*

:D

[echo geyser]

@keen mist

[oak sky]

fuck yes make edge of night irrelevant

i love blizzard

[keen mist]

sup honey

[echo geyser]

me

[whole bluff]

Because of the set, if you only have one of the daggers it doesn't do shit

[keen mist]

[limber lion]

Yeh

[marble hemlock]

you guys didnt even win

[viscid spear]

Yeah, when I go out in the woods I see all the nature stuff: leaves, dirt, rocks, fire

[marble hemlock]

raider.io timewalking stuff

actually disappointed

[echo geyser]

i wanted to play

[limber lion]

Inc "I got my first dagger from my first kill. It's now week #34 and I'm still missing my second dagger"

[whole bluff]

Yep

[oak sky]

oh no poor outlaw

[viscid spear]

People play Outlaw?

[marble hemlock]

btw ram, why are you almost always invisible on bnet

[hardy dagger]

Outlaw

[echo geyser]

[keen mist]

is outlaw exotic animal?

[echo geyser]

im not

[marble hemlock]

yes you are

[oak sky]

i feel bad for outlaw players

[viscid spear]

I thought they added that spec, as a joke

[oak sky]

they play rogue too

[bronze pike]

arg

pewpew

[limber lion]

I saw Ram doing WB's the other day via bnet

[oak sky]

its kinda cool they get to have a dagger but now i bet you anything they have to go a 2 set 1h or something

[slow marsh]

i'm bad now

[limber lion]

Still grinding old content smh

[viscid spear]

It's a yeller feller!

[slow marsh]

i'm retiring

[marble hemlock]

cant wait for all the outlaw people to invade here

now that we have a broken set

[keen mantle]

outlaw main here

[plush isle]

maybe the proc rate is shit

[keen mantle]

whats up

[plush isle]

[echo geyser]

im sin main idk what u guys on about

[keen mist]

stop flexin

[marble hemlock]

i kinda need to grind nf renown

[balmy condor]

Die

[keen mantle]

my night fae is 80 like 3 months now

bad flex

[echo geyser]

no u

[balmy condor]

I wish

[hardy dagger]

Nf

[viscid spear]

Outlaw AND Night Fae?

[echo geyser]

my nf set

[oak sky]

[echo geyser]

[balmy condor]

Original joke?

[echo geyser]

learn from the best (you)

[marble hemlock]

whispyr isnt even top10

definitely not the best

most breedable, maybe

[oak sky]

L

[echo geyser]

💀

[viscid spear]

Did you name it that because smashing it is wrong and you should be ashamed?

[keen mist]

https://tenor.com/view/impressed-awsome-gif-21682147

[marble hemlock]

http://puu.sh/IAQ2V/ad2e7fab01.png

btw what was your 200k message?

http://puu.sh/IAQ36/fe9eb038c9.png

[hardy dagger]

Oh wait what the shit nf simming the highest

[marble hemlock]

soon(tm)

[limber lion]

For now.

[echo geyser]

nf is the future

[hardy dagger]

[limber lion]

But 2p is getting bonked

so unlikely

[marble hemlock]

no ram

no

[hardy dagger]

Aye

[marble hemlock]

just no

no

http://puu.sh/IAQ3u/a97dd5041f.jpg

i see you

dont think i dont see you

[hardy dagger]

Is smoke bomb still just a pipedream or have they said anything?

[viscid spear]

[marble hemlock]

its all smoke and mirrors

[viscid spear]

🪞

[slow marsh]

imagine being baited by smoke bomb

[hardy dagger]

9.2 for sure🤡

[viscid spear]

Next expansion, maybe

[slow marsh]

i thought for sure dagger would drop on my mythic kill but nope. it's just not in the cards i guess

[balmy condor]

We aren’t getting anything this patch, maybe 10.0

But doubt it’s smoke bomb

[marble hemlock]

whispyr a doubter

[echo geyser]

time to join the gang

[marble hemlock]

no

[hardy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-14533740

[viscid spear]

I'd rather join my face with a moving truck

[echo geyser]

[plush isle]

Imagine 2 Minute Cooldown, you and your Shadowstep Target switch positions

[arctic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-shower-gif-11018341

[balmy condor]

I’m a knower

[echo geyser]

thought u like cats @viscid spear

[balmy condor]

[echo geyser]

theres a garfield form

[oak sky]

garfield

[echo geyser]

[viscid spear]

I already have the mirror toy and I'm an Engineer, so I can be a cat whenever

[marble hemlock]

only soulshape you should have, is a snake, cause youre a 🐍

[bleak sky]

holy shit what happened

[marble hemlock]

betraying necro like this

[echo geyser]

which mirror toy, sounds like i need it

[arctic walrus]

how about none because nf is cringe

[bleak sky]

i'm chilling raiding and you are on fire

[hardy dagger]

First strike with 50% crit

[marble hemlock]

vel for once speaking the truth

[viscid spear]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=127696/magic-pet-mirror

[echo geyser]

i need that

fuck its 500 pet tokens from the past

[viscid spear]

I just summon Feline Familiar or Jiggles and bam

[limber lion]

wait you can cosplay asmongold then as well

[echo geyser]

if only it was the new ones

[viscid spear]

They added a caveman race?

[balmy condor]

Prosident is my king

[viscid spear]

My king is Burger King

[marble hemlock]

very ugly

[balmy condor]

Muted for trolling

[echo geyser]

[balmy condor]

Sorry rules are rules

[marble hemlock]

wendigoing you mean?

[viscid spear]

More like Wendileave

[echo geyser]

everyone rly be hating NF i see how it is

[drifting cloud]

yes

[slow marsh]

yeah pretty much

[strange python]

yeahh

[grim tangle]

they'll learn

[viscid spear]

We play an actual Rogue spec here with actual viable Covenants, tyvm

But you can stay because you're cute

[balmy condor]

Have you ever considered getting an orange name for such a based take

[viscid spear]

Can it be the same dark grey as the Discord so it looks like I don't have a name?

[balmy condor]

?

[marble hemlock]

NO WHISPYR

NO

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[echo geyser]

thats illegal

[viscid spear]

Orange is my favorite color but I don't like playing Druid

[strange python]

Damn I’m a light mode enjoyer but discord is actually too much

[drifting cloud]

he swapped it just to take the pic

dont believe his lies

[viscid spear]

My retinas are gone, had to have my cat type this

[keen mist]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[echo geyser]

send cat pic

[viscid spear]

Which one, there's 10

[echo geyser]

no shot

[spice spire]

what are you, my fiance's mother?

[balmy condor]

No that’s me

[spice spire]

nice

[viscid spear]

I named my characters after them

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

technically, we have 7 outside cats we take care of

[slow marsh]

nice meme but you are way too vampy for this white screen

[viscid spear]

For example, Ash

[echo geyser]

[nocturne geode]

did someone say stepsis

[viscid spear]

no

[balmy condor]

Ash fighting the good fight

[slow marsh]

Here comes a new challenger!

[nocturne geode]

whispyr knows i prophesized NF i almost got banned for it

[spice spire]

Literal irreplaceable NF copium abuser icebladesx in chat

[balmy condor]

I prophesied your ban too kiddo watch it

[nocturne geode]

GASP!

[oak sky]

icebladesex

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

You're a Redfren, don't go to the Yellowside

[nocturne geode]

i just got bored playing venthyr been playing nf for a while now unless i have to play the other lol

keeps things interesting

[viscid spear]

We need to remove the brainwashing!

[strange python]

❤️

[nocturne geode]

its all about that sweet haste

[viscid spear]

we need more drastic measures

[nocturne geode]

reminds me of galecallers

[viscid spear]

[timid cloud]

Alright, Whispyr, wheres the sims so we can get the doomsaying going?

Go ahead & drop them.

[nocturne geode]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GMXg8KjFMLnqcu9irkBXeLDhELg2wNtG9bteEV5BsZ0/edit#gid=201737681 these?

[timid cloud]

Yes.

Now we may begin.

[viscid spear]

It's like Greek to me

[nocturne geode]

just read the top corner all you need to know atm

kekw

[viscid spear]

Venthyr still da best?

[nocturne geode]

barely atm and only if not running subt

which is unfun imo

[viscid spear]

Throw your stepsis in the dryer, bro

[balmy condor]

The blocked messages are getting worse

[viscid spear]

[hollow river]

||oh no things are getting a little weird in here...||

[nocturne geode]

kekw

[hollow river]

am i really gonna have to farm 80 renown on all 4 covenants

[nocturne geode]

prob

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-i-summon-you-to-fulfill-your-oath-gif-15974785

[viscid spear]

Naw son, I did Venthyr and I'm good

[nocturne geode]

haha i feel your pain i have 6 toons with all covs 80 because im a degenerate

[keen mantle]

months ago fk this shit

i hate nf

already

[viscid spear]

[nocturne geode]

if im feeling really edgy i pull out my feral druid for keys

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-sospecha-mirada-look-gif-7194479

that escalated quickly

[viscid spear]

Yeah it sure did, why would you do such a disgusting thing?

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/door-hide-close-bye-cat-gif-22820275

[viscid spear]

open up

alright i sleep now

[nocturne geode]

night future fae

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

toxic

[balmy condor]

Comes with the territory

[spice spire]

damn

[viscid spear]

@nocturne geode

[nocturne geode]

wtf touché

[viscid spear]

Ash wouldn't sit still

[brazen zodiac]

Please

Send more

[nocturne geode]

careful you'll summon the other nightfaes

[viscid spear]

I'm actually going to bed, stalkers

[median silo]

What's the 100/60/50/40% on that spread sheet?

[nocturne geode]

possible 2 set nerfs

[spice spire]

expected values of the 2p. 100 is current, 60 is a nerf, etc.

[balmy condor]

It’s copium

But yeh

Possible nerf values

[limber lion]

Even at 100%, still simming less than sub

[balmy condor]

Better with downtime

[limber lion]

[viscid spear]

Here's the plushie I keep next to my pillow while I sleep
That's the last pic of the night, need sleep so I can have another uneventful day of nothing tomorrow

[balmy condor]

Sleep well homie

[median silo]

I used https://premiare.github.io/WoWClassGenerator/ so I'll be playing venty assa no matter what changes happen x.D

[balmy condor]

I’m playing necro mistweaver monk apparently

[viscid spear]

y'all stalkers but y'all stalkerfrens

[balmy condor]

[timid cloud]

Whispyr has me blocked, he’ll never see this, but he’s getting benched for a Kyrian Feral Druid.

Actually, I probably should’ve said something worse, nevermind.

Necrolord Feral..?

[ripe shale]

Necrolord feral

[nocturne geode]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-walk-away-gif-24380202

[timid cloud]

I wonder why he has me blocked though. ):

Must’ve been all that Night Fae talk I used to meme about.

[ripe shale]

Good thing we have so much choices in this expansion

Many choices * ?

[bronze pike]

he looks like a good lad, sleep well fren

[magic summit]

dose anyone have any good WAs for our dots "?

[thorny pond]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[balmy condor]

!whispyrwa

[scarlet warren]

!whispyr

[balmy condor]

[slow marsh]

!whispyr

[scarlet warren]

😳

[slow marsh]

!whisperyr

!whespyrir

[magic summit]

Thanks

[slow marsh]

Bot is broke

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

https://wago.io/aL6XDBEGg

[balmy condor]

Different profile pic

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

Can’t be me

[spice spire]

True

Sub OTP would never have an assassination WA

[slow marsh]

True

[balmy condor]

True

I played outlaw on painsmith prog

Outlaw otp

[spice spire]

Nah that was a lapse in judgement

A drunken one night stand

[slow marsh]

True I remember that night

[spice spire]

You thought you were foreverman for approximately a 2 minute pull and then realized

Still capped, stay mad

[bleak sky]

2 minute pull

that's life eh fellas

[slow marsh]

Maybe if you play DH yeah

[balmy condor]

Insano dps

[bleak sky]

😠

[balmy condor]

More apm more damage

[bleak sky]

leave my dh alone

[slow marsh]

Ok

[bleak sky]

he's a good boi just trying to live life

[spice spire]

Secret hack 39 PI gameplay!

[bleak sky]

oh discoverer of secrets

fancy title

[slow marsh]

9.2 night fae assassination rogue with duskwalker's kyrian link and pi zomg 200% haste mega build must watch

[slow marsh]

Quake got me on to it

[bleak sky]

you guys are still sleeping on the nf tiny toxic blade master poisoner venom rush build

[spice spire]

Okay

Venom rush is too far gone to even meme

[slow marsh]

Bruh no shot I even had whisp sim toxic blade just for that reason

[spice spire]

Why don’t you sim it yourself

[slow marsh]

Kyrian sin night stalker exsang however ......

[spice spire]

I’m leaving this spec channel

[bleak sky]

raidbot scary

[spice spire]

And pray for a more sane tomorrow

[slow marsh]

I do sim things myself sir

Yeah I need sleep gym gonna kick me ass again tomorrow

Ptr!

[plain onyx]

lol

[late gulch]

Hi how are assasin in myhtic+. are they good? 🙂

[empty hinge]

Compared to sub\outlaw not really

[bronze heath]

Hey guys, painsmith mythic is the last boss i didnt get high parse yet (mini 90/95+). I think my rotation is correct but do you guy have any advice or small tips on this fight?
Im keeping some cp in first transition to get snd and alacrit to 5stacks up for when balls drop during p2/p3 transition.
When its the start of p2/p3 do you flag on balls to get 30 stacks or on boss?
What do you do precisely on this aoe moment? Im used to rupture 1 ball then flag boss and rupture him whild i do aoe.
Last question, on the ball we have to focus what do you do to minmax? Garrot? Kriss? Not sure rupture last long enough to be efficent.
Also when balls are close i aoe to get more cp onto boss, maybe you guys just mutilate.
Im watching logs but people do very different stuffs. And get pis/buffs x10000

[oak sky]

should always use flag on boss with vendetta

for painsmith

normally a low combo point rupture on a ball that is going to die quickly is safe

like 2-3 cp

most people use fok when the balls are nearby but its probably not a huge difference to use mut instead

most important thing is to just be on the boss as much as you can

[bronze heath]

Thats what im trying to do. So durig start of p2 and p3 what you suggest is to put 2x2/3cp ruptures instead 1x4/5cp on ball then go back to boss when he lands. Got it

[oak sky]

Yeah something like that

[bronze heath]

Oh yeah one last thing. My guild kill timer is 5m30 something. Should i use 2 pot but not align with bl or 1 align with bl?

Im using 2 atm

[oak sky]

I usually do the same but im not actually sure which one is more damage

[bronze heath]

Thanks for the tips

[hollow river]

Better to use 2 pots and not align with BL than it is to use 1 pot with BL I’m pretty sure

[atomic saddle]

Are conduits also being scaled up on PTR raidtesting?

[clever kindle]

this is why I use nugrunning like a true boomer gigachad

ill add my own spell ids

well its also a flexible framework for when/if you have to swap specs

[steel shadow]

Any info on the best cov/lego build to run in testing today?

[slow marsh]

Maybe

[viscid spear]

Busy day, doing all this research for us

Bless the Broccoli & Mango users

[loud jungle]

I neeeed assass to be slightly more competitve with sub in keys so I don't kms in 9.2.

I cba to play sub again.

[slow marsh]

you can play sin right now in keys if you wanted

[loud jungle]

Yeah, it just feels like leaving overall on the table is the only problem.

Probably still will tbh

More work for less damage feelsbad

[toxic quail]

Go NF, make Duskwalker, talents are Elaborate, Subterfuge, MFD, Cheat, Alacrity, and Poison Bomb, use Dreamweaver with 3 Potencies.

[slow marsh]

cap

[limber lion]

I'm not much of a m+ player, but I've done all 20's as Assa and always been #1 in overall dps and more often than not doing more than 2k+ damage than the second highest dps

[loud jungle]

It starts to fall off in 23-25's

[limber lion]

Yeh

[viscid spear]

[toxic quail]

You say it’s cringe but it’s literally what sims best from Whisps sims. Haha

[slow marsh]

venth still the play for today imo

[viscid spear]

I didn't say it wasn't viable, I just don't like it

[slow marsh]

but yeah i'm gonna try nf on dummy

may as well enjoy it while it lasts

but i wouldn't recommend it to someone who's asking about builds

[toxic quail]

I did a key with it last night and it’s sick. And did the bigger elite rares in Korthia and the world boss. It’s pretty good.

[viscid spear]

ride or die

[toxic quail]

But to each their own.

[slow marsh]

i'm not saying it's bad obviously it's the best it's going to be probs right now

[viscid spear]

I wanted to be Venthyr at the start of the expac but I kept hearing how NF was the play. After being NF through all of Nathria it was so refreshing to be able to go Venthyr.

[bleak sky]

Still perfectly fine tbh

[bleak sky]

Late ping but it's fine, unless you're pushing real real high content

[steel shadow]

for bis bis itd be nf then right

gross

[nocturne geode]

dont say it

[toxic quail]

If you want to play something different and slightly better currently, ; yes. If not just stick with your live Venthyr ways.

[bleak sky]

Right now yes

[nocturne geode]

youll summon whispyr

[toxic quail]

Also Assa in keys is sick. It’s all I do. I’ve been chasing Minal for weeks now.

Just got rank 4 on A52 last night.

I’m coming next week bro.

[weak plover]

Why is it night fae for duskwalker?

[nocturne geode]

bc haste

[toxic quail]

haste, synergy, and just furry shit.

[bleak sky]

Hell yeah brother

[weak plover]

Ditto.. assa is way more fun. Rank 4 tich here

[bleak sky]

I want more io but I don't want to do keys

Weird spot to be in

[gusty mirage]

You don’t want to do keys in necrotic spiteful tyran week?

I can’t imagine why

[bleak sky]

I didn't want to do it on the last good tyra week eithwr

[gusty mirage]

I refuse to accept “good” and “tyrannical” in the same sentence

[bleak sky]

OXI CMON MAN

[gusty mirage]

The affix is awful

Like actually dogshit

[bleak sky]

Fort is

[gusty mirage]

Esp with all the unavoidable damage in SL

They’re both garbage

[toxic quail]

I just want a steady group. Like we usually have to either change healers between our 2-3 friends and same with dps. So the only concurrent boys are me and my tank. So the chemistry is always diff.

[bleak sky]

Well we agree with it then oxi

[toxic quail]

So little mistakes every key.

[bleak sky]

Both garbage

[bleak sky]

Pug every day all day and hope for the best

[gusty mirage]

Remember when tyran/fort were the last tier affixes

The good ol days?

[toxic quail]

Bro you’re a mad lad for pugging.

I don’t even like pugging 15s.

I’m too spoiled with my guild groups all day.

[gusty mirage]

The real hard mode is pugging a 10

Try it sometime

Harder than any 23 I’ve done

[toxic quail]

Bro no, I’ve pugged an 6 and 8 and them tanks are elitist fucks.

[bleak sky]

Last tier as in nathria?

[gusty mirage]

Naw like the last set of affixes

Back in legion

When you could avoid damage in keys

[bleak sky]

Highest key I did in legion was like

A 5

[toxic quail]

HAHA

[gusty mirage]

Damn stop making me feel old

[toxic quail]

Oh how you’ve grown.

[bleak sky]

[gusty mirage]

Yeah Minal’s a gamer

[toxic quail]

26 Nelths Lair.

Memories of hell.

[bleak sky]

Stop it

[gusty mirage]

I did a 21 seat and never did another key again in legion

That dungeon can legit burn in a fire

[toxic quail]

I still have nightmares in Nelths after ending Legion in that 26.

[nocturne geode]

24 darkheart last boss tyrannical

[toxic quail]

I only did 1 Nelths this past Timewalking cause I remember.

Oh god Prophet.

When most people didn’t understand how last boss mechanics worked. Haha

[gusty mirage]

Bro some guy I know brought me in to a 15 tyran nelths as my first real timewalking key

[toxic quail]

Hahahaha did you finish the key at least?

[nocturne geode]

when you could swap gear in dungeons was fun

[gusty mirage]

We timed it by like 45s

[nocturne geode]

or using tank trinkets to live xD

[gusty mirage]

And I deleted him off my bnet

[toxic quail]

Hahahahaha good option bro.

[gusty mirage]

He pulled like 4 pelter packs and then didn’t let the healer get mana before boss

[toxic quail]

oh the fucking discs dude.

😩😂😩😂

[gusty mirage]

So now I raid log unless someone messages me to do a key

Really enjoying wow atm

[nocturne geode]

lets be honest tho swapping gear in m+ just hit different

[gusty mirage]

It really did

Would’ve been nice af in bfa

[toxic quail]

Yeah I liked it so much for weapon and trinket switches.

They should allow just that again.

[bleak sky]

You can still weapon swap

[toxic quail]

I actually didn’t know that. I’m a clown.

Oh also, all my rogue friends, my guild Nocuous on US A52 is looking for another Rogue. If you want a CE guild apply. We are US rank 145 and World 514.

[shell kettle]

A well formulated post in #recruitment would probably be more compelling

[hollow river]

What hrs/days?

[toxic quail]

I mean my guild can do that. I’m just here for the Assa boys.

I’m no recruiter.

I just know a lot of Assa boys who I’d love to raid with.

[hollow river]

I was gonna msg you and see if I could get into a farm run

If you guys ever needed a fill

[toxic quail]

Tues, Wed, Thurs 9-12PM Central
And first few weeks of prog we are adding on Sunday to get a head start.

And we do sale runs for the gold.

[viscid spear]

H/A?

[toxic quail]

Horde sorry.

[viscid spear]

[toxic quail]

I wanna be alliance again so bad.

Gimme dwarf option back.

[viscid spear]

I wanna be Horde again
I miss Blood Elves

[toxic quail]

I do love Arcane Torent but I love Dwarf beards so much more.

[viscid spear]

I know I could go VElf but I want the rep gain from being Human

[toxic quail]

See that I really miss cause when I’m not raiding or doing keys on my 5 alts I’m doing tmog and rep farms.

So human was sick for me back in Legion.

[viscid spear]

I'm in Ulduar on my VElf mage right now

[toxic quail]

I did all my tmog runs on my enhance yesterday. Today is the warrior.

[viscid spear]

I'm only doing Ulduar & ICC for the mounts, and my Mage is doing the AQ raids for the mogs because I get borderline autistic when I see something I could get if I put some effort in

It's why I have 27k achievement points, I got into a binge during Cata

[toxic quail]

I’m actually almost done with all the sets on my rogue. I’m so happy. I’m at 67/75.

I believe that’s what it says at the top of the appearance tab.

[viscid spear]

I'm only like halfway through that

Started grinding out sets at the end of BfA, and haven't gotten back to it

[toxic quail]

PVP ones elude me. I hate farming marks of honor.

[viscid spear]

Missing both shoulders for the 10 & 25 sets in Ulduar, it's maddening

I only got a lot of the PvP sets because I was doing BGs on my nigh-invincible HPally

But now that corruptions are gone it's not as fun

[slow marsh]

Welp I don't think nf is the play boys time to come back home

[bleak sky]

what happened

[slow marsh]

Grove pedals or whatever it is

[bleak sky]

oh the flowers

they're annoying yeah

[slow marsh]

Ye

The set changes are obviously good but I don't see much difference outside of the initial pull burst atm

The sepsis shiv vend bursts at 40k but it quickly sinks after that from what I'm seeing

Maybe we can get them to do something to sepsis since having it pop and just continuing to Mut is sadge

[bleak sky]

if it could just proc the stealth shit properly it would be good enough, right?

getting the empowered garrets

[slow marsh]

Yeah it'd be enough to make up for the crap soulbinds I think

[bleak sky]

tf

night fae soulbinds are huge

[slow marsh]

Korayn is for m+

Niya is poop and Dreamweaver is only really good if you can stand in flowers for 18 seconds

[bleak sky]

korayn is pretty big on some of the current tier's fights

and I haven't really watched much of the new raid, but I bet there are similar fights

[slow marsh]

Very true

[bleak sky]

you might be able to stand in flowers for the full duration as well, idk

gotta wait and see I guess?

[slow marsh]

ye

[cerulean nest]

what's the word today gents?

the PTR word

[slow marsh]

look at ptr thread

[hollow river]

PTR thread?

[copper hazel]

top of discord, there is a small hastag symbol

has a seperate thread channel thing discussing 9.2 stuff

can also hover over sin channel and see it pop out

[viscid spear]

I see me

[hollow river]

Yes they tagged me in there, I got it. Lol

Ty fuu

[copper hazel]

[hollow river]

Ty too kiwi

[slow marsh]

man i wish thrill was more controllable

[rancid pier]

Where can I find the information for which soulbind pathing to take? There used to be an image in the pins but I cannot find it

[copper hazel]

[slow marsh]

theo triple potency

[runic reef]

lf crit and haste caps for Sin spec

[hollow river]

No caps

Simsimsim

[runic reef]

ty raidbots keeps telling me to go with crit and reduce haste for single target but already 1361/48% abs/rel for crit and 441/13% for haste ... seems excessive for srit

[slow marsh]

there are no caps only drs

[runic reef]

*crit

[bleak sky]

just trust raidbots

[slow marsh]

do you have this little thing called the frost set?

you know, the thing that does the most of our damage

[runic reef]

yep 🙂 crit... more crit

[slow marsh]

and relies on crit

😛

[thorny pond]

Hello any new secrets?

[bleak sky]

Master poisoner good

[arctic cloud]

MP godtier

[viscid spear]

[timid cloud]

Whispyr mad in my DM’s right now for being the prophet of MP.

[slow marsh]

i'm not gonna front

MP makes deadly procs kinda nasty

[timid cloud]

[slow marsh]

too bad we can't run dusk + dashing

[viscid spear]

MP making a return?

[slow marsh]

for today

I think the CT build does more damage though from what i'm seeing

[bronze pike]

mroe buttons

:)

[slow marsh]

I've been messing around with CT apl and it seems keeping CT up as much as you can is the way to go for now until we get 2p nerf

[viscid spear]

Us doing rotations

[slow marsh]

pretty much

sin actually has mini games now, kinda fun

flag stacks, vendetta snapshot, CT uptime

[obtuse robin]

[hollow river]

Can’t wait : )

[strange python]

Gonna need to learn the new opener :0 never played without Master assassin

[slow marsh]

garrote, mut to 5, flag, slice mfd rupture vendetta shiv pot trinket

there

[solid venture]

wait what talents are we playing now for single target in 9.2?

[slow marsh]

not sure yet but for today it's this

[solid venture]

interesting

[slow marsh]

you can do that or EP / subt / mfd / alac / CT

[solid venture]

i guess you still play with dashing then for now?

[slow marsh]

no dusk

[solid venture]

oh , sweet

i guess we should be able to sync every flag with vendetta then?

[slow marsh]

no

just full send everything

[solid venture]

alright chief

[abstract cargo]

well we open with 3 garrote or garrote mutilate ?

[slow marsh]

press everything on cd

except obviously wait for 5cp for flag

open with single garrote

dunno if gar gar gar in vendetta is worth or not yet

but it would only be in vendetta

[balmy condor]

gar snd mut

never do more than 1 garrote from stealth/vanish

[abstract cargo]

k thx

and i shiv then sepsis or sepsis then shiv ?

[balmy condor]

sepsis then shiv

[drifting cloud]

sepsis and logout

[balmy condor]

also true

don't play fae

[strange python]

True combo

[solid venture]

is it possible to buy the runecrafted item on ptr somewhere to create new legendary?

[bleak sky]

yes, center of oribos

[bleak ledge]

Playing around with Nadjia vs Theotar sims. Sims dont include Tea right?

[balmy condor]

they do

default sims average out the tea buffs

25% each

shadowlands.party_favor_type=crit forces it to crit 100% of the time

which will sim better

[nocturne geode]

nf?

🙂

[bleak ledge]

Gotcha, ty Whispyr. Nadjia w/ duelist simming higher than Theotar for me in patchwerk. Prob wouldnt be the case with the crit tea @ 100% uptime

[deft cave]

how is the vendetta cd with dust?

its like 1:30 or lower?

[balmy condor]

45-50

[deft cave]

wow rly?

thats huge

[balmy condor]

yes that's why it's good

the 4 piece interaction is strong

[deft cave]

so we sepsi every 2 vendettas

[balmy condor]

no

you because you don't play fae

[deft cave]

y im

i want to get the fat cat soul form

noone will stop me

just look at him

[nocturne geode]

imagine not playing fae when its so close/better

[balmy condor]

I literally don't know if you're trolling or stupid

[deft cave]

now whispyr is bulling me

[nocturne geode]

agree didnt know it was okay to call someone stupid for being silly

[balmy condor]

no idc bout your cat form

you're good

[obtuse robin]

[balmy condor]

tech over here has been fae peddling for like

the last week

non stop

and I can't tell anymore

if he's just an idiot

or if it's a really elaborate unfunny troll

[deft cave]

didnt know assa chat was so TOXIC

[thorny pond]

TOXIC mate

[balmy condor]

like

half the channel is trolling

and half the channel is stupid

and idk which is which anymore

cause the line blurred

so hard

[nocturne geode]

i mean if it stays so close i am going to play it

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[nocturne geode]

but obv half troll

[thorny pond]

Green gang and above is troll, red and below is stupid

[balmy condor]

like if IM confused

I can't imagine what a rando jumping in feels

[solid venture]

sir whispyr do you have an opener sequence for us plebs for ptr ?

[balmy condor]

regular subterfuge opener

[drifting cloud]

well he said he played blood on sylvn so you cant expect him to make good choices

[balmy condor]

I don't understand how anyone can look at toxic onslaught and say "yeah I want to play that"

[subtle tundra]

U

[nocturne geode]

speak for yourself tool

[bleak sky]

stupid that's me alright

[digital canopy]

Anyone know why the sylv dagger is simming so poorly for ass?

[drifting cloud]

because the other 2 specs generate alot more combo points

[oak sky]

And we dont abuse deeper daggers

[halcyon zealot]

we dont get to abuse anything

[viscid spear]

Missed timing a HoA+16 by 16 seconds, only got +28 to my score

[halcyon zealot]

28 is better than 0

[viscid spear]

Oh wait, it was 23

1823 now

[bleak sky]

close to 2k let's go ash

[nocturne geode]

ash on that grind

[viscid spear]

My NW & MoTS are still green

13 & 14 respectively, trying to find at least a 15 in those and a PF

Tyrannical Mists gives me hives tho

[halcyon zealot]

NW shouldn’t be too hard, mists is definitely easier on fort weeks i think but all those are doable

[viscid spear]

I'm still working holiday hours, it sucks

Been trying to get runs in when I can but it's been hectic since after Thanksgiving

[deft cave]

u cant get vendetta from it as assa right?

[balmy condor]

nope

just the other 2

[deft cave]

well if we play MP the extra aa speed from adrenaline can be huge

[balmy condor]

no

also the moment you nerf the 2 piece in any way, or introduce a second legendary

you don't play mp

sorry

[thorny pond]

but what iFFFFFFFFF they buff mastery

[slow marsh]

embrace the darkness

if they buff mastery it just makes venth even better tbh

people seem to forget that theo shade gives way more mastery than niya does

[tulip tide]

wait.. envenom doesn't seem to be buffed by the t2 shiv bonus, or am i high?

[slow marsh]

no it's not supposed to be

which is why CT stonks are rising

[tulip tide]

CT?

[bleak sky]

crimson tempest

[tulip tide]

ah.

are we running exsang too..?

[oak sky]

no

[tulip tide]

exsang, shiv, vendetta looks ridiculously high on the burst side of things

[oak sky]

exsang is pretty bad

[slow marsh]

yep then you do negative damage the rest of the fight

[tulip tide]

well pvp would like a word i guess

😄

[slow marsh]

exsang applies to one instance of bleeds which is the biggest reason it sucks eggplant

[oak sky]

yeah it could maybe be a thing in pvp but thats for the pvp channel to find out

[viscid spear]

PvP Channel

[oak sky]

idk, most of us cant help at all with pvp they could probably help more than we can here

[bleak sky]

pvp weird there's no patchwork sim so idk how to play

[strange python]

Lmao

[gusty adder]

which necro soulbind is go to for m+?

[balmy condor]

heirmir

[gusty adder]

with gemstones I assume

[pseudo hamlet]

IS BS+DS better than MA+Vigor for the pure single-target scenario?

[balmy condor]

yes bs/ds usually better for guardian

ep/mfd close second

[pseudo hamlet]

Thanks!

[strange python]

Fuck sin 2set, nerf demo

[viscid spear]

People play Demo?

[strange python]

??? Demo is huge

[viscid spear]

I really only see Destro, weird

[oak sky]

demo is op single target

[bleak sky]

guardian 🤝 demo

[oak sky]

externals 🤝 demo

[nocturne geode]

@slow marsh you repping fae rn

?

how dare you LOL

[viscid spear]

demo 🤝 lition

[strange python]

Still talking pvp?? Destro is awful on live and doesn't look strong on ptr

[slow marsh]

no why would i do that 😛

[viscid spear]

My Lock is Affliction but I sure don't do anything with it so I have no idea

[nocturne geode]

my man

[slow marsh]

lol

[oak sky]

@slow marsh

[nocturne geode]

literally popping off

[strange python]

I so badly wanna try faeries with duskwalkers lmfao

[nocturne geode]

[runic maple]

Been mia for a while. Edge of night was something that was recommended to only 1h, but on todays sylvana logs, I see most ppl dual wield it. What changed?

[nocturne geode]

mythic daggers

thats it

[runic maple]

oh

lol

[nocturne geode]

❤️

[gusty adder]

what do you guys sim as assass in m+?

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[strange python]

Skolex is fucking heinous

[slow marsh]

yeah i dont like this

[strange python]

Melee hitbox too small, swirlies come too often+too fast.

[bleak sky]

but you liking the feel of NF?

[slow marsh]

swirlies are actually not too bad you move out and in

[bleak sky]

did you grind double leggos or nah

[slow marsh]

D=

[bleak sky]

don't even know if they're enabled or not

[slow marsh]

tbh

i did this to troll whisp

but here we are

[bleak sky]

i mean you're doing some damage

or it seems to be some damage, idk what the standards are gonna be

[slow marsh]

double leggo gonna screw all this up

[bleak sky]

oh it's still single leggo rip

[slow marsh]

yeah otherwise i'd for sure be venth

[nocturne geode]

It’s still fun to see it

And watch whispyr cringe a bit in good fun

[covert frost]

for bosses in m+ are you supposed to use combo points on crimson tempest?

[bleak sky]

yes

[covert frost]

okay thats what i thought but wasnt 100% sure

[pearl basin]

outside of shiv windows though, right? Although that would change next patch id assume

[spice spire]

Yes outside of shiv windows

It also depends on legendaries ran

[hollow river]

Guild is doing our first in house heroic sale tonight

[viscid spear]

Mine could never do that, we don't even have many people that stick to one class

One our Druid healers decided back in Ny'alotha that she would main a Surv Hunter for Nathria

Within a month she was healing again

[hollow river]

Yeah I hate constant rerolling

Sometimes it’s necessary for the roster though

[oak sky]

We tried to do that and one of our buyers needed 2 items and both dropped but neither could be traded

[drifting cloud]

[oak sky]

Hi ryler

[hollow river]

LOL WHAT

[oak sky]

Yeah

[hollow river]

that's a bit troll bro

idk

i just hope no one trolls our run

want it to be over fast

[dense herald]

If running mfd as venth with obedience, do you always delay shiv slightly so it lines up with flag and then with mfd between flags?
Or literally just pump on cd and if it doesn’t line up it doesn’t line up?

[upbeat needle]

Joined a new CE guild and trying to figure out what I did wrong on Sylv

any tips?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fkqZwHKzDL6XaN4P#fight=38&type=damage-done

[slow marsh]

no

shiv on cd and if it lines up then it lines up

you can get it to line up most of the time if you pool properly in my experience

[dense herald]

Okay beautiful

You were pumping this morning btw ice

[strange python]

Just curious, what kinda numbers were y'all doing in testing today

Cause tbh it didn't feel like 2set broke things that much

[bleak sky]

this is weird

shiv ->vanish+vendetta

not vendetta -> shiv -> vanish

[hollow river]

Idk i saw a sin rogue out dps a fire mage doing like 14k

Saw some doing low dam and some doing high dam

You can’t really ever tell much from these raid tests when it comes to class tuning

People are testing and learning the fight

Someone could be getting PI or KA and you not realize it

[bleak sky]

also this is wrong

[wispy leaf]

for example you have only 1 vanish cast in p3 and it didnt even line with vendetta

[bleak sky]

you're randomly vanishing instead of doing it with vendetta, the only one you synced was on pull

[strange python]

i watched dratnos on Skolex and both assa rogues were like top 8 dps in every pull.. but this is a very broad assumption, dratnos himself said that assa is good in ST boss fight like this one

[strange python]

Shouldn't rogues out damage fire on skolex?

[hollow river]

No? Lmao

[strange python]

Why

[hollow river]

Even 9.1 fire has insane boss damage

[strange python]

It's a high movement single target fight

[hollow river]

And they are ranged

[strange python]

Sin is also a single target boss damage spec

And skolex is high movement

[hollow river]

No

It is a damage spec

[bleak sky]

and fire mage doesn't rely on standing still right

[strange python]

In what world is sin not a boss dam spec lol

[hollow river]

The World of Warcraft

[strange python]

????

[oak sky]

fire mage doesnt rely on standing still

[ripe shale]

[hollow river]

City: damage per second

[strange python]

Sin has been a boss damage spec basically forever what

That's what the spec does

[hollow river]

The spec does damage

[bleak sky]

does it do aoe damage?

[hollow river]

To anything you choose to attack

[oak sky]

✨

[hollow river]

Sure does

[strange python]

It does primarily single target damage with a minimal ability to funnel with bleeds.

[hollow river]

Crimson Tempest

[strange python]

It's not a burst spec or aoe spec

[hollow river]

Great ability

[bleak sky]

cmon trickzkz

you're being difficult

[strange python]

You're trolling

[hollow river]

I’m not

[oak sky]

did cev steal your account lmao

[hollow river]

I’m quoting Cev here

[bleak sky]

It's a single/light cleave spec right

[oak sky]

sin does st

and cleave

[hollow river]

Sure

[ripe shale]

Any tips on how much st dmg is average in keys right now ? Need something to compare too

[oak sky]

but not saying boss damage is fine

[hollow river]

But don’t lump it as only boss damage spec

[strange python]

Sin should theoretically be a top 3 patchwerk DPS spec based on spec design. The theory that sin set needs nerfs because a single target slam spec is competitive with other specs is kind of absurd

[hollow river]

I agree with Cev on that

[bleak sky]

that's oddly specific

[hollow river]

Guys

[bleak sky]

just do damage and time keys

[oak sky]

spec design doesnt determine tuning thats kinda a bonehead take

[hollow river]

Why are you so ingrained in taking the role of boss dam

Strive for better please

[strange python]

You're being as obtuse as possible

Has to be troll

[hollow river]

I’m really not

And btw to answer your original question

Fire mage tier set is broken as fuck

[strange python]

Sin is and always has been primarily strong as a single target or light cleave spec.

[hollow river]

So no sin shouldn’t do more

[oak sky]

our tier is currently broken too

but this is also

[hollow river]

That doesn’t mean it SHOULD be

[oak sky]

ptr

and tuning isnt final

and full rotations and talents builds arent found out

[ripe shale]

Are we talking about raid dps ?

[oak sky]

and theres no double leggos

[bleak sky]

right now yes

but you're talking about keys, yeah?

[strange python]

????? In what world should sin not be a single target slam spec

This has to be a troll

[hollow river]

That’s fucking boring

[ripe shale]

Maybe the mage hasnt fully upgraded domination sockets and the assa had ?

Sorry wanted to tag trickz

[oak sky]

theyre talking about ptr

live sin is way better than mage

[ripe shale]

Ahhhhhh

[hollow river]

That doesn’t work on PTR

[bleak sky]

everyone has everything on ptr

[ripe shale]

Missed the ptr part

[strange python]

Wanting sin to have more AoE doesn't mean that it hasn't almost always been a big single target spec. You've gotta be trolling

[ripe shale]

The convo is pretty long tbf

[hollow river]

I’m not trolling

[strange python]

That's like arguing that Frost mage isn't cleave because it can single target

[hollow river]

The tier set literally makes shiv debuff cleave

Expand your mind a little dude

Holy shit

[strange python]

Right...so frostbolt only hits one target and frost mage is a single target spec

Having cleave and AoE abilities doesn't change what the specs core competency is.

[oak sky]

[drifting cloud]

damn must be hard to come up with these dumb takes

[hollow river]

Did I ever say sin was a pure aoe spec?

[oak sky]

tuning does

[hollow river]

I said it was a damage spec

[strange python]

You're arguing that sins primary damage profile isn't boss damage.

[bleak sky]

as opposed to other specs not being damage specs?/

[oak sky]

current tuning it is but it could be tuned otherwise

[hollow river]

[strange python]

K trolling for sure

[hollow river]

No

[ripe shale]

Na like im talking about right now in m+ im currently respeccing and i just need an average st number without sockets and stuff. So i can compare myself caus im a min maxing whore

[bleak sky]

you don't need to

just time kekys

keys**

[hollow river]

Ask Cev bud

[bleak sky]

unless you're doing bleeding edge content, just time your keys

[hollow river]

Just keep being a boss damage robot

[ripe shale]

But i want too

[hollow river]

Your choice

[strange python]

You're fucking absurd

[bleak sky]

is your M+ gameplay 100% on point?

are you doing absolutely everything you can to do the most damage?

[hollow river]

And your narrow minded

[ripe shale]

I try yeah

[hollow river]

Go look at soulrender parses

[strange python]

You seem to think I'm saying that sin cannot touch a second target. You're either intentionally strawmanning or you're trolling.

Having a damage niche is not the same as "lul unbind crimson tempest"

[ripe shale]

Can u stop ? Im new to assa and am already annoyed.. if u think ur right just let it go jesus

[drifting cloud]

lmao

[ripe shale]

Sorry

[strange python]

You would unironically argue that Boomie isn't a 3 minute CD spec because "you don't just afk between ramp"

[bleak sky]

Haya: let go of the M+ single target damage thing

[strange python]

Based on this logic

[bleak sky]

just time your keys

[drifting cloud]

youre the idiot claiming sin "deserves" to be a top3 st spec

thats not how the game works

[hollow river]

Stfu already dude

[hollow river]

Thank you

Fucks sake

[bleak sky]

I'm uncomfortable with the atmosphere we've created here today.

[ripe shale]

Ur probably right. I just compare my raid boss parses then

[strange python]

You're misinterpreting the point. Sins rotation and profile is more single target than most other specs in the game and that's near inarguable

[bleak sky]

completely different things dude what the f

[drifting cloud]

actually sin has one of the best 2-3 target cleaves in the game

[bleak sky]

you can't possibly compare M+ boss damage to raid damage

[drifting cloud]

sustained* its just not that relevant in raid most of the time

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cringe-cringe-oh-no-kimo-kimmo-gif-23168319

[drifting cloud]

but I guess you just forget that when it doesnt fit your argument

[strange python]

Sins cleave is particularly strong because of energy funnel, not because it's actually slamming both targets equally.

[ripe shale]

I know i know i its just for me with rotation stuff and uptime u know ?

[bleak sky]

it's not the same thing you can't do that comparison lol

[hollow river]

[ripe shale]

Leave it be ..

[strange python]

"you can touch targets other than the main target" =/= "not a boss damage spec"

[hollow river]

Not usually how things go around here buddy I apologize for your experience

[strange python]

if you guys don't stop i'm going to call law enforcement

[ripe shale]

[drifting cloud]

theyre just gonna pile on

oxi isnt here unlucky

[ripe shale]

How about we talk about something cool like the weather or something

[bleak sky]

[ripe shale]

Or how i am playing necrolord assa

Roast me

[strange python]

Necrolord is fine lol

Just don't use Necro legendary

lets talk about how they should nerf ww aoe - the floor is open for suggestions

[drifting cloud]

no thanks

[ripe shale]

They should tru target cap

[tight ginkgo]

make it so the aoe damage they deal is stored up and then done to themselves with touch of karma

[hollow river]

Yes and buff CT to proc 100k dps

[ripe shale]

Whats ct ?

[bleak sky]

crimson tempest

[bleak sky]

like monk wasn't doing 100k+ before cap removal

[hollow river]

I think he means cap them to 1 target

[upbeat needle]

should I be lining vanish with vendetta every time?

[bleak sky]

yes

vanish + vendetta are friends

[ripe shale]

?

That was fast

[bleak sky]

yeah I was 2Head

[upbeat needle]

@bleak sky and only vendetta after shiv?

[bleak sky]

shiv -> vanish+vendetta

[ripe shale]

What u guys think about feral getting a 2.5 minute tier set effet ?

[bleak sky]

i don't know anything about feral

[ripe shale]

Berserk(feral vendetta) makes an aoe bleed.

With the 2 set u get the 3 minute cd to around 2.5 minutes

Seems fun

[bleak sky]

[hollow river]

Feral is such a busted class

But no one plays it hardly