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Yeah that's why the 2nd proc seems to line up, makes sense nwo
Ew
Gland instead of phial

actually better sometimes
oh fuck

it wants me to play 246 countermeasure and gland on sub as well
you simmed it, right?
man
for KA
i only have 246 phial
that'll do it too
and gland sims higher for me
Some people living the good life
BiS check
litteraly
im never getting
252 phial
bro
i legit did 10x +15 keys for all of nathria
and got 226 phial last raid week
so 252 is not happening
#believe
I never got a 233 weapon from Sire/vault
But hey, giving up is for losers
we aint no losers
that aswell
gotta keep grindin
not even pvp?
took 14 sylv kills to get 2x daggers
took me 4 sylv kills to get 2x daggers
well in that case i wish u a sack in first vault in 9.2
yikes...
lol
you forgot a 0 on that number
Same @grim tangle
zovaal's dagger 
I love this for you and at the same time with the most respect, I hate you. bahahaha
Are all the theotar tea buffs around the same dps gain or should I prioritize re rolling a certain buff before raid
Crit ideally
you can sim them
So pretty much just always roll for crit if you can.
crit best haste ok typically
see how each one performs for your profile but agreon is right
drop this in your custom to check
profileset."primary"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=primary"
profileset."versatility"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=versatility"
profileset."crit"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=crit"
profileset."haste"+="shadowlands.party_favor_type=haste"
Alrighty thank you
advanced sim not custom apl ^^
oh yeah
Got it
nabs don't know what they're missing out on smh

pugs just wanna be carried and expect an io of like 3000 or something of a meta class only
they dont like rogues, we are like gutter rats to them
keys normally like rogues
rogue is absolutely meta class
nice monkey

ty
New pp
didn't even notice you
are you playing outlaw now that's why you changed it to a monkee @gusty mirage
no
o
Why pink name 
I stepped down as CF
Oh
it was nice while it lasted 
Well you'll always be a figure in my community
❤️
Shiv causes enemies within 15 yards to take 100% increased damage from your Poisons and Bleeds for 9 seconds.
Grudge Match Shiv's debuff causes your Bleeds to gain 25% Critical StrikeShiv causes enemies within 15 yards to take 100% increased damage from your Poisons and Bleeds for 9 seconds.
lool

set bonus change
thats old news]
idk it just posted one sec
Why are the rogues on sylv speed kills holding second vend in p1
The first Patch 9.2 build of 2022 contains some Tier Set Bonus tuning which includes changes to the Restoration Druid, Protection Warrior and Rogue set bonuses.
new rogue changes were announced a year ago lmao
ptr seems to be going live
for real this was 1 month ago lol ?
cuz they dont have enough time
ya
any new changes will be ptr next week
why they only post this now
it was posted before
red name then 
rip
They do. P1s are lasting 2:30
baited
naw
smh
way long ago
I'm so confused on the p1 fast push single vendettas.
thats old news
...
that's what the pin is about
mut
so they didnt touch the tier set ?
not since before Christmas no
so the nerf to it is the 25% cc gone?
yea
no
what
no i meant, i thought it increased CC and damage, but now just damage
it only did crit before
oh allright ! makes more sense now
it will likely be nerfed
i mean assa kinda needed a strong set considering how strong the frost shard set is for assa rn
like kt and slyv have so much gating
if you read the pins it explains
true
if they nerf ours they better bef alot of others
they're losing that lol
there alot of huge sets
is this november
at least on patchwork
you woke up in 2021
i didnt see a nerf announcement im sorry

maybe on a phasing fight or mechanic heavy fight bm could be best
but ass on anything like guardian or tarra
Where?
hasn't 9.1 been out since jan
i have covid sorry ive been dieing
lol
damn, feel better homie ❤️
missing a whole tier of content
feel better soon man
thanks
its horrible. i just got out of covid myself
thanks
bdo's action combat is my fav tho too bad that game wants too much money for me anymore
Yo that sin change is fucking sick
isn't bdo action based
wow is tab target
live action
i can't think of th e term
real combat
the f was it
@balmy condor how big is the nerf?
oh wait they nerfing that sin change already?
we don't know
because they haven't announced any numbers
we just know its getting nerfed
ya
bruh
Okay so fast push sylvs, if we take 2:30 to push, why not double vend p1 and then hold p2 vend for second burn with pot? Assuming pot be up for first burn
oh okay
everything in this patch is stuff we knew
new stuff next week basically :p
just looked at a 12:00 minute kill and they cast 2nd Vend @ 2min
so idk what you're talking about. faster kill?
nope that was the fastest sin kill on WCL
so
There's an 11 min something
Idk I looked at the vision and pure kills and they both didn't vend a second time
there's no 11 something sin kill on WCL
i sorted by kill time
12:04 is fastest i see
unless this crap is only showing me the top 100 sorted by time
nope there's nothing faster than 12:04
even in top500 kills
i just looked at Vision's best, 12:03 and yeah both rogues didn't cast at 2min
illi missed a cast
dibze used on souljudge on first add platform
that's why he held im assuming
**The change listed on the newest PTR build is the change we talked about before Christmas. It didn't make it into the last ptr build of the year, and simply is coming now. **
This is all known info, please see the other pins for sims and more info
I assume we'll see more
confused people
so we'll just put that up
My plan is to double vend p1 and then hold vend p2 for potion. So we'll see how that works. Slightly worried it'll fuck my p3 vendettas
hey so is this a nerf???
this is why you lost cf scrub

that might be why they held in p1? but it doesn't look like it
calls me dumb then bullies me for no longer being green


Don't think p1 has much to do with that. But the p2 desyncing vend from potion is likely why
why would you desync
you wouldn't just hold a cast because of pot desync
that's not how that works
Disgusting
you don't sync if it loses a cast
that's like, the widely general rule for anything
I'm not saying lose a cast.............
even lust iirc
You only get 1 vendetta in p2
No
Not what I'm saying
I'm saying you double vendetta p1, and then in p2 you vendetta second burn instead of first burn
Because that's when pot is up
Ohhh
not what you're wanting to try
We crossed wires big time
Yeah I'm v confused on their vend timings
yeah they don't make sense
but they likely didn't know what they're timings were going to be
is what it seems like
maybe they held thinking they'd get 2 in p2 instead of 1? no idea
pot comes up first burn for me
we're talking about speed kill
You do slow push p1 though right?
12min kill
Ye
it's a cool concept
I'm pretty sure the big parse strat is so push and have guild let you slam boss anyways
slow or fast push
why would you want a slow phase 1?
oh i missed the whole conversation
CDs
ah
I was in a plaguefall for the past 57 minutes (didn't finish btw) and I heard the most amazing thing I've ever heard
our healer thought skipping soggy makes the last boss in PF poison everybody during her rain
as opposed to not poisoning 🙃
offtopic as fuck but I needed to get it out of my chest

today we raid and veinripper drops 
sims are up
Are they?
it's all in the pins
its on ptr, but the changes dont actually change the feeling of the spec
it will change the playstyle some
GL 
Shiv'ing boss during adds is going to feel really good
anduin shiv massive pad 
imagine spreading all your bleeds, casting CT, subterfuge garrotes etc
and shiv BAM
and shiv during Vendetta
is going to be big dam
whats the current hold rule?
hold shiv 10 sec to line with Vendetta?
i forget exactly 
i assume it would still be 12
as 12 is the minimum amount of time for you to still get 9 seconds of shiv in a vendetta
@balmy condor what if 2p no nerf?
we stay venthyr because thats still actually useful
why tho
One more word parsley
Ravenholdt and guild gulag I’ll send you
1.why would a rogue need soulshape
2. its not even a % above venthyr and NF doesnt provide benefit to anything but ST
venthyr at least will be able to provide some benefit to multitarget
idk i just dont think NF is needed even if we dont get nerfed
nf ahead on dslice and single target tho?
but idk I just want to do some big dam and be happy
if youre talking dslice, we need to see the next tiers affixes
Toxic Onslaught has some multitarget benefit IMO
but if necro is that close
you'd run Deathspike for multitarget fights
yes mr. notrickz, drink the undead kool-aid 
Not really true. Sepsis itself does not, that's for sure, but the soulbinds definitely do.
never stopped 🙂

necro i understand tbh, thats only a slight % loss on ST but a pretty giga gain on something like the 4 council boss
the number of pulls I could have saved by blink soaking in P3 sylv... 👀
its something like ~<4%
that seems like a player issue ngl, no malice intended
or, apologies, a raid issue
not specifically calling you out
Im talking about farming
killed sylv 4th week I don't really worry about any raid issue :D
i mean prog or not its still just raids being lazy when circles go out
instant blink is so much valuable, even for rogues
thats my point
I played nf early SL and I fell in love with soulshape, would love to play it again
instant mobility is pretty huge
the distance you can cover with idk, shadowstep + blink almost instantly is insane
Playing kyrian on reclears, I feel so slow on bridge..
More like

Because we'll just roll with whatever is thrown at us and still be kings
okay so scarizard literally just said its getting nerfed again, so yeah NF is dead
no id rather not imagine that
Imagine all the people
you keep that thought to yourself young man 
"But she has 8 legs!"
@dawn ivy
Trying to do this pug HC run, the Eye has been fun
Put us three Rogues on one side, add dies while the other hasn't even hit 75%

Hold!!!
So we run over and blast the shit out of it, but not fast enough
THis group sounds so laid-back though, they were impressed with people that were 4/10H applying to join
And here I am with AotC trying to get a damn dagger from Remnant
fight the good fight fren
im sorry
Did you grease his palm?

I'ma give this group one more attempt and then I'm just leaving, real talk 


Pretty sure most of these people haven't even seen Heroic Painsmith, let alone downed him
You go down on painsmith? Respect
Now this mage is saying oatmeal raisin is better than chocolate chip 
He's a bottom, real talk

We got an add before the eye phase and our side still killed our side first
This after tank died to boss 5 seconds in and three people died to first beam

I just want a dagger, frens

I already left
ah
come take my spot in alt raid ash
Just sitting in LFG now looking
it's all fucked
Sounds like a trap 
Here's a Sylvie kill, so let's hope 
7 Hunters 
2 Rogues, including myself



How many CP should I able to get into frag
No CDs at all
This breakdown makes me happy, even if it's just temporary
Doesn't really matter, but normally without cds you get around 19-22
Not much you can do there, other than to use Flag before a finisher every time.
Just thinking if there's double lego woulbe make a difference
Not really
Doesn't dashing give more energy
I'm second in damage on Sylvanas, that doesn't feel right considering we have a lengthy phase 2
You’re forced into cov legendary as your second
If anything, the tier set with dusk will give you way more energy during flag
what is vedetta cd like with dusk ?
We're not even getting across the second bridge to interrupt her in time 
whats the dps like gorup
what
Dying to Rive, thaty's what
1 min
With tier people are getting it to around 45-50
Hunter 5.1k
Boomie 4.7K
Me 4.6K
Hunter 4.3k
Hunter 4k
Aaaaaand group is done
Fantastic, another group where I gain nothing and we don't kill anything 
Oh I forgot who I was talking to a couple of days ago
But there were talks about syncing vend with euphoria/fatal flaws vs syncing with flag like normal
Here’s the sim on that
Idk who you are
But if anyone knows them let them know pls


I like vividly remember talking to someone
And being like “yeah cev asked already I’m simming for him”
And I tried searching for the convo
Cannot find it for the life of me
Hah, yeah I was just trying to look into sync-logic and which is better to do
i remember whisp
I personally didn't talk to anyone else about it, just thought of it when going through cooldowns for Guardian
it was a rando new face
He’s getting his vegetables
To grow up big and strong
Damn, I do love veggies, should've went with something else
Like Nickelodeon Slime or something, idk if that's edible
Define "healthy"
Physically? Maybe
Mentally? Probably not
Emotionally? Hell naw
Hotel? Trivago
You’re red
And sweet
Like a strawberry

I wanna be a raspberry
Shut the fuck up you’re a strawberry and you’re gonna fucking like it

yessir
uwu
@rapid flame
😳
You a real babe pull through later tonight

is that a fixed 3:45 whispyr or does it still have 20% variance
how the hell is it not a gain
is it losing flag casts because of fight variance?
So it's better to hold Vendetta for even longer to sync with Flag, instead of slamming it with Euphoria
No
0, 1.5, 3 flags
oh I think when the guy was asking he meant with obedience im pretty sure
not sure how much that changes things
since tbh I have no clue when euphoria procs
Pushes the Vend + Flag sync even further ahead if anything
Euphoria procs once every 80s
Trying to do a PF+15, tank keeps pulling two groups of the shrooms, wipe a few times, healer keeps saying to just pull one group, tank keeps pulling two and we wipe
Tank says "gg" and leaves 
I feel like I'm a bad luck charm 
Now we're trying it at 14
Hello guysn girls
Fairly new too assa in SL.
Anything new how we are looking in 9.2 ? 
looking good
Any changes to the tier sets yet ? Looked a little broken with the setbonus from shiv
No, but it is getting nerfed unfortunately.
To what ? I saw some picture with. 35% poison bleed crit chance but didnt know if old or new
if we end up playing nf i blame whispyr
No, you’re gonna blame cev
Was confused with that with what was crossed out etc.
Talking with the og here i feel blessed 
Just did some testing in ptr and nf felt pretty dank
hes too far gone lads

Sepsis is still awkward
Nothings crossed out
80
thank fuck
We get other stuff instead.
I see fae has some interesting possibilities next patch
Worth tracking winds at all to possibly pop vanish for it? I'm scrambling trying to figure out how to minmax as much as possible now that snapshottings gone
not worth it
You cannot affect the wind proc with Vanish
It does nothing.
You can't buff it with anything
Thanks whispyr. So 100% dmg sound pretty busted too
only reason i track it is so i know for example not to change target too soon and have my winds hit go into the wrong target
Yeah it’s insane
Is there just like...no minmaxing left?
Tier is 30% atm
Doing rotation right is the min max
its mostly small shit unfortunately
Last tier I played competitively was SoO when you could outplay
I thought he meant vanishing before hand to get the extra crits from MA for winter
Syncing cooldowns whenever the fight allows it is the best minmaxing you can do
But it comes with its risks
Nothing else really
hit buttons, watch number go high
wdym you could outplay
what does that mean
I'm talking in voice chat, writing emails, and doing disc. My brain froze. I meant minmax
Like with snapshotting
brainfarts are rough, I feel you
I don't like that my option atm is to just accept my spot or beg for winds highroll or externals
That's just the nature of the game unfortunately.
So just be fine with the pink all star rank until I wear down the druid and priest to simp me
But would it still make sense to vanish before winter procs and get a couple more crits in with MA if ur not at 180 stacks ? I mean would it be worth
I mean I'm mostly itching to go from 50ish all star to top 10 and having both seems like the main way
180 stacks?
What stacks are you talking about?
And no, you use Vanish normally
It would not make any difference when you vanish, except you lose value by not doing it inside Vendetta/Shiv
What about running nadjia and iqd on guardian and syncing second vendetta with iqd and thrill seeker
Instead of theotars
No.
You just hold Vendetta for Flag and use second IQD then
I only get 2 vendettas
Yeah
You hold the second Vendetta for a minute
I wanna Galaxybrain things :(
I had 90% winds of winter crit in p1 sylv today then we wiped ):
But what if there’s 10 seconds left on a fight and I won’t get a winds proc and so I vanish before to get the winds to do the damage earlier and I’m playing nightstalker and my doctors said I’m terminal with only 2 weeks to live is it worth doing m+ for a phial or do I risk it and wait for legion m+ idk maybe the doctors are wrong do I rob a bank to buy more wow tokens for avoidance boe’s do I divorce my wife and murder my children so I have more time to play
Cev I need answers
I miss snapshotting

I'm just sad about externals
first things first Whispyr: lawyer up, hit the gym and delete discord
I have the best lawyer on this… on the other side of the Mississippi, @gusty mirage
Nevermind the german translation is fucked up. I understood the english one 
Actually what's the logic on running nadjia vs theotar. Seems like it splits on some fights
I have to admit something 
I came from the dark side
I was a feral main
Please dont hurt me
I love feral mains
that's just a worse furry rogue
Ferals are chads
Thrill Seeker can proc at very bad times completely killing the point of playing Nadja.
Erster Fehler: irgendwas im Spiel auf deutsch

Is it just a highroll gamble then? I still see lots of split logs. I know the difference between them is small though
The difference is indeed super small and usually comes down to people not giving enough of a fuck to change.
Who the fuck gonna open their spell book and call it “erdrosseln”
German wow is whack
A lot of people still play Vigor, even though it's ultimately just worse
Alsob du deutsch bist 
(Wowhead stellt sich immer automatisch auf deutsch)
Is there no value to running nadjia over theotar ever? Genuinely just laziness?
Schon mein ganzes Leben alter 
„Kopfnuss“ mit ner Keule als bild 
Nadja can be good for some fights, like Guardian
Or fights where there are adds, but where you can get value out of Euphoria/FF, like KT
As long as you can get close to full value from Nadja, it's a good pick
Its nice that we still have germans that make international guides … normally we just all suck ass 
It's also less rng than Theotar
What's the reasoning? I genuinely don't understand why
What do you mean?
damn Whispyr flexing his German skills out here
Thrill Seeker gets more stacks from killing adds
@limber lion PI feels so good tho you gotta admit
Which means more Euphoria procs
Seli is german too, he does icyveins
Which means more Fatal Flaw procs
Right. So why guardian?
Which means more damage
It's just a 20 second window where you shit out damage
Because you get full value from Euphoria/Fatal Flaw* and you don't waste it on stuff like movement or intermissions
I’m german not even trying to flex 
So nadjias main downfall is downtime
Yeah, I too, don’t like getting 20% crit & haste
Yes, just like I said previously
I misunderstood
.
1 blocked message 
Rolling tea for 6 hours before raid is pog wdym
Well proc at bad times could theoretically mean out of CDs or something, but I get what you're saying now
Who?
Cool cool. But u know its 4:30 am in germany. I mean im working but wtf are u doing 
Getting only AGI and Vers is giga pog wdym
Yeah
I'd be worried about losing crit tea :(
It can proc during stuff like Painsmith intermission, Sylvanas p2 running, Fatescribe runes etc.
I live in california, my parents are german
yeah yeah one of those I'm 69% German

That's where you get your efficiency from whisp
50% german, 50% Austrian, german citizenship and all
Had a license to translate for a couple years
That's where all the other classes parse
Went to a private school that taught in german
You don't pad the adds anyways
Now I’m actually flexing
xd
You just consistently fuck the boss
That's not how you parse
German stream when?
That's a fight where you can minmax really hard
Every single raid comp kills the adds in a second
My damage to boss on PS is higher than my dam overall parse.
Assa can't do much
you single? just asking, no second or malicious intents
By a good chunk
@balmy condor @drifting cloud thank you 🙂
Fan of knives on the balls to pad winds damage and then funnel it into the boss
Im jealous man … i wanna move there too. Any tips on how to get American citizenship? @balmy condor wann marry or somethin ? 
Not hitting the balls at all if you know winds is gonna go off so it's not wasted
Be born here 5head

You want to move to the US?
Bruh germany is fucked up
Gf of 6 years and she’s very cute
do you guys want to adopt me or something and gimme double citizenship? asking for a friend
Yep idk how you would want to leave Germany
Its not that good here as it looks in the media trust me
Same in the US

Let's do citizen swap. You can come take my place in LA and I'll take your place in Germany
Bro I've been to both Germany is amazing
Same brother
You can pay my 3500 rent bill :(
You don't know what you're not missing
And healthcare
I mean I do know, cause I visit my family in Germany every year
It’s much nicer in Germany
Trust
Not you whisp
Xd

ban inc
Oh god that’s a joke from legion you zoomers won’t get it
I know us isnt great either. But having a master and getting paid half of what i can make in other countrys and beein judged for having a broken body with 24 is hard
That's not how the joke even went
I am god king skovald
Skovald was a legend
Is exactly what the like is
skovald my boi
Any wotlk joke ?
That was my progress time 
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah, jump off of icecrown like sylv did
Get a W and come back to me
DM’ing me about something we talked about a month ago
L
I got your mom is that enough
Too busy with Ur mom
U didnt need to jump off. Just suck ass and fall of the platform
Goldfish brain
Did you like your present
curious what rotation you guys think is harder/more complicated of the three?
Outlaw
Wtf is happening 
three specs*?
It's outlaw
Hands down
Other two are just practice
Outlaw is a whole priority system + rule system
- memorising the buffs
??
- learning not to quit the spec when you roll shit buffs
Is my present not having to deal with you for a month
Outlaw is super easy
You get a weak aura for it
Wow great answer guys
and you press the glowy button
Smh
outlaw doesnt have buttons light up that often its just pistol shot
Like you legit don't even have to think about your buffs in Shadowlands
Yeah like your mom, your dad, and your step dad L grew up with divorced parents + didn’t love you + alcoholic
You just press that shit whenever you can and whenever you weak aura goes boop boop

Stop quoting my biography wtf
How old are ur parents ? Wanna make them laugh ? 


50-55
They laugh at katzenklo
They’ll laugh at anything
Just tell them its turning DDR all over again 
@balmy condor did you enjoy me not messaging you for a month
what leggo and covenant would we play if 9.2 were released rn?
Yeah keep it up 
Venth dusk
he means nf
I'm not googling boop boop outlaw weakaura

I like u guys already
Aight that invitation for a slobber knobber is off the table again
I need that emote name
I'm gonna live in this discord come prog it's gonna be great

Where do i get that emote 
Only gives me the name 🙃
cK8pQVQyPS
Type it into the discord search
Aight back to work for me
Ahhaaaa
Don’t burn the place down

Didn't get anything from the PF14 🥲
20 bucks for 2 @ everyones 
Soon to be California if all goes to plan in July
Is the New assa tier active on ptr?
Yes
I’m gonna miss master assassin
missing master assassin


Yeah I miss you too seli
Miserable*
Ye I don’t like subterfuge 
Will definitely not get nerfed :copium:
I miss you regardless of talent
how about that?
thats good, because im very talentless
NFNSMFDCT
Yall remember pk ns bug in legion
what a time to be alive
SMDTISAC
think id rather play DH than nfnsmfdct


Only if you’re offering
How much for a pound
What a deal
i misunderstood the question
Hot

this is new meta
yo speed
boomers dont get it @balmy condor
whats a monkmain doing in a town like this?
im enjoyer of st dmg from time to time

true
fotm, it's an religion
when are we playing dota speed?
Rogue is basically monk
Sbs Infinite scaling to the moon 
Because it’s unnecessary and preys on the poor and stupid?

because its just a social construct for population control
not happening any time soon, dont have any spare time 
If I ever become a religious figure, hell has frozen over
not doing any keys until last 2 weeks
psure some people already wank off to your streams with cam religiously


Some people
they may or may not be present for this conversation


I heard religion invented external buffs

whered you find that sir
On ptr, ever heard of it?
Tournament realm andy

sounds like a fun night out
not another dagger that you dont get for 20 weeks....
some candles, some light bruising
A combo meant to make sure it doesn’t get buffed by dumb shit like deeper daggers
some light knifeplay
Wait, people get daggers?
sign me up
Sin stonks if Shiv works on it 
Poggywoggy, any lfr gamers in the chat
imagine if bloodfang would apply properly with fok
i still need my off hand
and shiv worked on it
someone @ everyone here?
Everyone doesn't work here.
only cool ones
who












that explains my low numbers













