assassination

[spice spire]

I ain’t poaching anyone

[oak sky]

Whos coming in with the poach?

Omr <midmax>

[spice spire]

5 hours a week, no OT. They just want AotC, and I’m here to bang

Slurp got enough rogues rn

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

How did skip end up in slurp

Hmmm

Curious

[spice spire]

True

[oak sky]

Idk if you knew

[spice spire]

They saw a future council prospect and knew he belonged

🧐

[oak sky]

But hes the rank 1 outlaw rogue on kelthuzad

[gusty mirage]

Pls don’t say his name, you may summon him

[oak sky]

I love omr

Hes a sin day1 since day 1

[gusty mirage]

I said what I said

[oak sky]

Dont let anyone tell you different

[gusty mirage]

He’s also extremely annoying at times

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

I was about to do it to him

And I didn’t

New year, new me. No toxicity.

Or less anyway

[gusty mirage]

Do it and I’ll mute the both of you

[bleak sky]

quake did you catalog the

"guide is useless"

[oak sky]

[spice spire]

It’s somewhere in the annals of Rh

Yes

[bleak sky]

papa bless

[spice spire]

I don’t think you understand how many Rh screenshots reside on my phone. Apple very confused

[gusty mirage]

Imagine having an iPhone and not FaceTiming me

[spice spire]

It’s just an unfair trade king

I get to see you, but you have to see this

[gusty mirage]

Just trying to see my boy George

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

[thorny pond]

Gorgx

[spice spire]

[oak sky]

[nimble tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/summoned-i-have-been-summoned-power-gif-15859341

[oak sky]

he here fr

damn

[gusty mirage]

[tacit otter]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hvQ9BL2cZ5YqhGFdhTdBKc
can anyone look at my gear and tell me whats the highest priority to change. waist and legs are bad but the best i got until now

[bleak sky]

run a droptimizer for m+ and raid

a phial is probably pretty high up there

[dawn ivy]

its a small increase but, you can easily go grab renown and bump your potency conduits

[bleak sky]

also always run your sims on nightly

[dawn ivy]

both conduits getting 2 levels, totals to something like ~75 dps

[tacit otter]

always using droptimizer, mythic raid is for sure biggest upgrade but not reachable with my 3/10 guild so yeah

[dawn ivy]

and its SILLY to tell you to just go get it, but your biggest focus will always be head/chest with dom socket

you not having that is multiple 100s of dps

so thats your biggest "loss" right now not having

[oak sky]

yeah theres dom gear and phial those are the big things

[bleak sky]

so you know what you have to upgrade then 😛

[dawn ivy]

I'm delusional and dont know the gains of dom sockets vs. ilvl

[oak sky]

doubt

but heroic ones likely will be better

[tacit otter]

i got a heroic helmet and chest, both worse

[round cargo]

do i use amplifier on cd?

[dawn ivy]

WITH dom sockets?

[oak sky]

heroic sylv chest/ mythic eye chest should be better typically

[round cargo]

or save it for vedetta?

[oak sky]

yes

fatescribe helmet should also be better but weird things happen

[tacit otter]

ye with dom socket, helmet was always less but probably because i got the trash verse/haste one

[round cargo]

40 dps increase over remnant for me

[oak sky]

yeah you should target fatescribe helm sylv chest from heroic and possibly eye chest from mythic

and from there you can try running a m+ great vault or 246 droptimizer if you want to see what could be better from m+

[tacit otter]

was never lucky with eye loot but yeah. thanks guys

[oak sky]

oh yeah mythic ocular gland might be a solid trinket as well

[tacit otter]

i wish, but not lucky yet

• the helmet is 39 less

[oak sky]

is that with the shard selected in top gear?

because thats pretty surprising

[tacit otter]

ye

i guess less crit + lower ilvl

[oak sky]

what level are your shard of dyz and shard of bek?

they both should be pretty big damage gains

[tacit otter]

both 5

[oak sky]

thats really weird

can you link your sim just to make sure?

[tacit otter]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n34XbYBsEwJ9i27NUWczA1

[oak sky]

oh its still with the haste vers one

duh

[tacit otter]

ye as i said:)

[oak sky]

yeah i think i just misunderstood something you said later on

happy gear hunting!

[tacit otter]

ty for helping

[humble ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/edited-discord-message-big-chungus-fortnite-gif-23270842

[oak sky]

S tier slurper

[round cargo]

i ant to use infuser on pull right

[oak sky]

infuser?

[dawn ivy]

wtf is a slurp

[hollow river]

A guild

[oak sky]

Skipn0z <slurp> - Mal'Ganis

[dawn ivy]

oh pog grats

[oak sky]

oh

no

hes been there for a while

it was just a dumb joke mostly

[slow marsh]

are people alive this week

[slow marsh]

I could show you if you want

[round cargo]

amplifer

[dawn ivy]

when the ptr build drops

[round cargo]

do i use it on pull

[dawn ivy]

we all crawl out of our dens

[slow marsh]

true

[oak sky]

yeah

just on cd

whenever its up

[slow marsh]

except i still don't have a group to do ptr testing on since my guild has day jobs

[dawn ivy]

theres usually rando pugs looking for people

idk about mythic maybe that will be harder

[slow marsh]

ye i been doing it with rando pugs up to this point

[oak sky]

do lfr testing

[slow marsh]

it has been.....eventful

[oak sky]

you have to do mythic halondrus

[slow marsh]

I've seen what I need to see from a fight perspective

[oak sky]

you have to

[slow marsh]

but I have no real feel for how specs will play

[oak sky]

you arent supposed to sets arent done yet

not quite

[slow marsh]

of course there's changes

sin is a great example of that

but even still you can at least get somewhat of a feel right

[oak sky]

idk

without tuning and stuff we don't necessarily know whos juiced

and whos juiced in exactly which situations

[slow marsh]

but you get a baseline to add the tuning to is what i mean

[oak sky]

yeah hopefully towards the end of mythic testing stuff is more ironed out

[slow marsh]

ye for sure

[reef axle]

grim codex any good for aoe?

[bleak sky]

no idea, prob best to sim it

[balmy condor]

It’s meh

[reef axle]

shame

[echo geyser]

Its uncapped fwiw, but its not super easy to line up

[balmy condor]

So it poison bomb

[echo geyser]

[balmy condor]

The 27 target aoe poison bomb scaling dream

[marble hemlock]

ill hit you whispyr

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

Promise?

[marble hemlock]

yeah

pinky promise

[slow marsh]

pinky toe promise?

[marble hemlock]

psure whispyr can lick his own toe

[bleak sky]

you saying you can't?

[marble hemlock]

idk, ive never tried

all im saying is that whispyr is a limber little minx

[spice spire]

What the fuck am I reading boys?

[bleak sky]

don't question it

[timber pawn]

Is there a benefit to dual wielding Edge of Night outside the higher white dmg

[dawn ivy]

double the damage from the passive

[bleak sky]

if you mean 2 259s, no, it's just damage

[timber pawn]

I don't believe you get extra procs or extra proc chance % from dual weilding

[dawn ivy]

you double the damage

[timber pawn]

yes would be dualing 259's

[dawn ivy]

the proc % is the same, it just adds the amount each dagger grants together

[jaunty kayak]

and why would you not dual wield them? :D

[dawn ivy]

well there is some form of an argument for m+

not a good one, mind you

[timber pawn]

I feel like I remember people talking earlier in the tier about not seeing gains from dual wielding them

I haven't done M+ in weeks lol

[dawn ivy]

sin doesnt gain as much dual wielding as sub does

[jaunty kayak]

i believe its only true of 246 eon

[dawn ivy]

but sin still benefits from 2

[jaunty kayak]

2 246 are worse than 252 random dagger and 246eon

afaik

[dawn ivy]

for sin thats a pretty common occurrence yeah

[timber pawn]

The sims are super super close

[bleak sky]

wdym super close

[rapid flame]

is there a way to sim so that flag/vendetta gets delayed and paired up with Fatal Flaw? (2nd flag at 1:20 and 3rd flag+vendetta at 2:40) ? x)

[bleak sky]

apl changes I guess?

[timber pawn]

52 dps

[balmy condor]

cev actually asked me something similar to sim

[bleak sky]

but what is close

[timber pawn]

259 Edge of Night and 252 Crit Haste Dagger vs Dual 259 Edge of Nights

[rapid flame]

its mostly cause fights are getting shorter and i can afford to delay uses and not miss a cast of either flag/vendetta

[balmy condor]

yeh

will sim it at some point

raiding atm

[rapid flame]

no worries, feel free to @ me 🙂 keen to see the difference as the sim just fires them on cd 10 sec prior to fatal flaw

[regal star]

should i run poison bomb with ww/frost mage in tyrannical keys?

[balmy condor]

no

never run pb in keys

[slow marsh]

what if you pair it with dashing tho

[bleak sky]

what if you pair it with tiny toxic blade tho

[balmy condor]

then you're doing 2 things wrong

[slow marsh]

what about hidden blades

for the burst

[bleak sky]

with PK

[spice spire]

can't even meme this one boys

do your group a solid and pretend to help with aoe with ct

[bleak sky]

massive 30-40k in ardenweald

[spice spire]

yes man

[echo geyser]

my poisonbomb is usually top dmg in ardenweald

[marble hemlock]

Ram. No.

[echo geyser]

@balmy condor 's PB infinite scaling to the moon

its a special poisonbomb

[balmy condor]

it's the only way

the uncapped, infinite PB scaling

no damage reduction

[marble hemlock]

The virus is spreading...

[dawn ivy]

I heard PB is effected by our tier set that means it scales

[balmy condor]

true

[thorny pond]

⚖️

[oak sky]

@gusty mirage I GOT THE 2nd ONE

LETSFUCKINGGO

[gusty mirage]

[bleak sky]

HUGE

ABSOLUTELY HUGE

[oak sky]

@balmy condor is there a way i can sim the sylv belt with crit tea full uptime?

like in advanced would i have to add it or something?

tryna see if im bis or not

[echo geyser]

Gz its for sure dagger day in NA

[oak sky]

^ my gear rn

[balmy condor]

I mean

You can do that in top gear

If you’re doing crit vs crit

On the tea

Unless you mean like

Normal tea

Vs crit tea

[oak sky]

i just need to force it to have crit tea

but with

i dont have the belt tho

[balmy condor]

Yeah you can do that in top gear or anything that has the custom apl box at the bottom

Do it in gear compare then

[oak sky]

oh ok

thanks

i thought i was gonna have to do unholy shit

[spark scaffold]

Sylv belt is very small increase for bis profile i think

[oak sky]

im checking

to make 100% sure

[arctic walrus]

Dude

It literally isn’t

[balmy condor]

shadowlands.party_favor_type=crit

[oak sky]

im obsessed

[arctic walrus]

At most it’s a side grade either way

Link sim

[oak sky]

wat

it says

[balmy condor]

What do you know, are you bis or something

[oak sky]

sim not work

[balmy condor]

Smh

[spark scaffold]

Wait im on phone

[balmy condor]

What’s the error

[oak sky]

@arctic walrus i was making double sure crit tea etc was better than nadjia, all dslice

dslice

i mean droptimizer

contains commands not supported by simbot

wait

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

i throw it in the bottom huh

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[oak sky]

ok

[balmy condor]

You can’t do it in your input

[oak sky]

i used to just throw it at the end of the simc string in advanced

[balmy condor]

Theres a box at the bottom

[oak sky]

yeah

i got it

[balmy condor]

That says “custom apl”

Yeah

Cool

Nice

Radical dude hang 10

[spark scaffold]

@arctic walrus when i simmed i had crit tea selected btw

[oak sky]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2yAohj9YrjK5352Y5CB91L

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

its literally 1 dps

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

So you’re saying

Theres a Chance

[spark scaffold]

Huge

[oak sky]

now i need to get it

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

its low prio but still worth

[balmy condor]

It’s within margin

[oak sky]

yeah

[balmy condor]

Needs more iterations

Do like

iterations=70000

Under that crit tea line

[oak sky]

ok

[balmy condor]

And go again

We must know

[oak sky]

command not work

[balmy condor]

Uh

Iteration no s?

(I do this very often as you can tell)

[oak sky]

nope

expert on?

[bleak sky]

simulation man make it work 😠

[balmy condor]

Perhaps

Well

Hm

Droptimizer is forced smart sim

So that probably breaks it actually

[oak sky]

im using gear compare

for the

belt

[balmy condor]

Oh

Right

True

[oak sky]

whispyr

this is important

i have to know

[balmy condor]

iterations=x

Is the line

Idk

Try expert

And put it uh

Post actor

[spark scaffold]

Agreon do you have kt or ps legs

I cant see on phone

[hollow river]

kt

[oak sky]

i have kt

kt simmed higher

[hollow river]

dude is decked out

my golly G

you sim 1k over me

[oak sky]

yeah i got 2 pieces yesterday

[hollow river]

i got 2 pieces today

pain ring and the nine boots

[oak sky]

ive had a lucky post-holiday set of drops

[hollow river]

we downed pain for the 2nd time

[gusty mirage]

[arctic walrus]

[hollow river]

since our prog kill

[spark scaffold]

We have exactly same gear so belts gonna be like 10 dps with crit tea even on high iterations

[hollow river]

downed him in 7 pulls tn

[arctic walrus]

Glad you got the whole channel involved champ grats on the findings whispyr pin it

[hollow river]

should have a 9/10 box next week

[oak sky]

lmao

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

@arctic walrus ur not bis L nerd

[gusty mirage]

[oak sky]

not even phial

[hollow river]

[arctic walrus]

Link logs?

[oak sky]

always next week big man

[arctic walrus]

Oh nvm you shouldn’t need to

[gusty mirage]

[arctic walrus]

Since you’re rank 1 I’m guessing?

[balmy condor]

Sorry what faction do you play?

[arctic walrus]

Cuz you have full bis correct

[arctic walrus]

Sorry did you know there’s 4 difficulties in the game?

[oak sky]

Agreonr-tichondrius go look and make fun of me

[balmy condor]

I’m blue/bad colorblind

Sorry

It’s hard to differentiate

[oak sky]

i live for it

[arctic walrus]

Damn I shouldn’t have looked

It’s fine I’m bad as well

We in this together

[oak sky]

theres a new top no external log on sylv

idk

how he can do 9.8k

[gusty mirage]

prolly rolled some fat winds crits

[oak sky]

ridiculous highroll and not stuck on colossus maybe?

[hollow river]

That’s insane

[oak sky]

@balmy condor i could change the number of iterations off smart sim i think

[arctic walrus]

@oak sky check the new soulrender and remnant

[gusty mirage]

probably had his trinket bound too

unlike some people

👀

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Idk if that’ll help

How high does that slider go

[oak sky]

really high

i just put it on 10k

[balmy condor]

10k ain’t high

[oak sky]

wait

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

did i miss a cast again

[balmy condor]

No

Vel was a dumb silly boy

[oak sky]

oh

lmao

[balmy condor]

And didn’t have fusion amp bound

So we’re all chortling

[oak sky]

my first time doing like

8.8k

i missed a cast of trinket

its macroed to my vendetta

and i slammed it right off cd and the trinket wasnt up yet

9 dps now

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tmTYDT2wnCpjMtuTBy7VXt

[gusty mirage]

still slaughtered the name of the good doc too

[oak sky]

100k iterations we go

[hollow river]

How the fuck

17k

What on earth

[oak sky]

holy ur gaming brother

i always suck on remnant

and i own that

but shit

i thought i was taking the top spot on sylv but that asshole had to go do 9.8

@spark scaffold @arctic walrus @balmy condor confirmed 10 dps

[balmy condor]

Google doc right?

[spark scaffold]

I did exactly what you did today couple days back lmao

[balmy condor]

That’s gains

[oak sky]

worth

[balmy condor]

Big stonks

[oak sky]

this is good

now i can roll giga bis on it

[balmy condor]

parse acquired for sure

[hollow river]

Still gaming tho man #21

[oak sky]

i acquire those on my own

[arctic walrus]

Check for me what that box on the right says

Something something margin perhaps

[balmy condor]

That’s what happens when you’re a successful handsome bossman slaying thotties on the regular king

[spark scaffold]

I mean you can have the argument its gonna be even better for next patch when you want less crit

[oak sky]

yeah its still margin

but ye

gain is gain

[arctic walrus]

Also who the fuck lied to me

[oak sky]

vel i havent done remnant or soulrender yet this week i can still come for yo ass

[arctic walrus]

Mfd resets on remnant orbs

[spark scaffold]

it does though

[oak sky]

yeah they work now

got bugfixed

[spark scaffold]

same for rupture energy

[oak sky]

wait ur playing nadjia too vel

[arctic walrus]

I mean

[oak sky]

theotar is better if you roll the good shit

[arctic walrus]

I don’t understand why you people play Theo

Okay and who has time to high roll

[slow marsh]

Because we hate thrill

[arctic walrus]

When my low roll beats everyone

[bleak sky]

2 things are good teas

[oak sky]

bro vel

[bleak sky]

haste and crit good vel

[oak sky]

you literally have to roll 1 time

[bleak sky]

they prob sim the same to you idk

[pine tusk]

GUYS! I did it! I got my first Heroic Sylv dagger after 20 kills with 4 guildies trying to funnel me each week and 2 vault slots

[oak sky]

and if you dont get haste or crit you go nadjia

[spark scaffold]

you can get higher uptime on t/g in patchwerk fights than it says in the sim from my experience

[bleak sky]

so it's a 50/50 whether you're good or not

[arctic walrus]

Here’s another thing

Play other specs you fucking bozos

[oak sky]

actually true

[slow marsh]

I do tho

[oak sky]

maybe ill do some sub ok

[arctic walrus]

I am not going to my order hall to change theotar off sub

[oak sky]

oh

true

[slow marsh]

Order hall

[hollow river]

Same

[oak sky]

i feel so ratioed rn

[slow marsh]

You bald or what

[oak sky]

no yeah thats the only good argument for not doing theotar

acceptable

[arctic walrus]

It’s my order hall I run that shit

Yall live in my castle

[spark scaffold]

its not that bad if you have hs there

[oak sky]

vel im proud of you for bringing mfd to the masses

[arctic walrus]

Okay and when I swap covs?

[spark scaffold]

but it fucking resets every time you change cov

[oak sky]

[bleak sky]

you're not hearthing to swap shit

[slow marsh]

Weird that you have forge of bonds in dalaran

[arctic walrus]

Exactly

[spark scaffold]

yeah

[bleak sky]

I agree with vel on this one

[spark scaffold]

i mean i hate that part too

i just wish you had a covenant hs

[balmy condor]

Have y’all considered just not playing sin

[slow marsh]

But my nadjia is set to outlaw so I feel

[balmy condor]

Great way to combat this

[arctic walrus]

I’ll port to sd if I for some reason am being held hostage by cev and he tells me to do an assa key

[oak sky]

if my guild has no aoe padders in on soulrender i can slam tomorrow

[spark scaffold]

sin plaguefall with zoldyck and 2 necros is fun af

[oak sky]

covenant swap

[balmy condor]

Yeah next patch swapping between necro and fae multiple times a raid because they’re both so good

[oak sky]

no

get out of my head

[balmy condor]

[spark scaffold]

26 min to vault dagger in there

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[arctic walrus]

When the war against furries erupts I cannot wait to put your head on a spike and parade around California @balmy condor

[oak sky]

ok so

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

the sylv belt is better if you play theotar with crit tea

i bet with haste tea its worse

with nadjia its also worse

problem solved

[spark scaffold]

did you sim it with nadjia?

[balmy condor]

Important theorycrafting happening here

[oak sky]

vel did

[slow marsh]

One of these is maybe true

[oak sky]

i seen his dungeon slice

droptimizer

bruh

[arctic walrus]

I don’t to sim to know

[oak sky]

my brain gone

[balmy condor]

Kyrian rupture works with tier set

[hollow river]

Stonks

[slow marsh]

Why wouldn't it

[oak sky]

its not gonna be venthyr

[hollow river]

I bet RC Dusk is stonking

[gusty mirage]

Think of how easy it would be to hit the anima charged combo point with resounding

[balmy condor]

Because big venthyr doesn’t want you to see the truth

[slow marsh]

Ofc not

[hollow river]

Think of the energy you could save with RC

[slow marsh]

Why are you telling me this tho

I am the last person

[oak sky]

we aint saving energy we have a tier set

[slow marsh]

Like the absolute last person

[gusty mirage]

Thank God, we’ll be so energy starved

[slow marsh]

You'd ever have to convince

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

i can finally delete these 6 raidbots pages from my browser

[hollow river]

0 haste 50% mastery build for phat 7cp envenoms

[gusty mirage]

I’m already physically energy starved with all this tier nonsense

[arctic walrus]

@oak sky okay now sim outlaw

[balmy condor]

Idk you always have the stupid ideas and I cba stooping low enough to match that energy so I’m spurring you to find something

[oak sky]

what for

[arctic walrus]

So I can say I’m better than u

[slow marsh]

Soon ™️

[oak sky]

i dont have veiny

[arctic walrus]

Bozo

[oak sky]

and i dont play outlaw

💀

[gusty mirage]

[arctic walrus]

How

[spark scaffold]

do you still play veinripper on sylv?

sounds annoying af

[arctic walrus]

weren’t you one of the og people

[oak sky]

vel probably thinks im a fake zoomer now

[arctic walrus]

Surely that means you play outlaw

[oak sky]

yeah

i had a wicked pfp when i joined

me skip and poyboy

[arctic walrus]

Yeah the holy Trinity of zoom

[quasi hill]

Hey guys, I tried a bit assassination and coming from heavy sub gear.
Sim telling me to go obedience and not scoundrel for st. Is this fine or a product of my sub gear (crit/versa) ?

[oak sky]

yup

but ive been sin the whole time

[slow marsh]

Fine

[oak sky]

next patch might be the time to pick up outlaw

idk

i know the basics i just havent practiced it

[slow marsh]

Outlaw next patch kekw

[oak sky]

just for fun

idgaf if its good

[slow marsh]

When it's still capped kekw

[gusty mirage]

Button lights up, push it, win

[quasi hill]

That would result in a reroll

[slow marsh]

All I know is my surv hunter is 228 ilvl and climbing boys let's go

[gusty mirage]

Or may I recommend going fishing for the finest flounder you can find and just setting it on the keyboard?

[hollow river]

Outlaw is fun

[slow marsh]

Holiday break was good to me

[hollow river]

Love playing wannabe warrior spec

[oak sky]

its so weird

[gusty mirage]

wtb combat daggers again ty

[oak sky]

my character is done for the tier unless i go for m+ title

[slow marsh]

Hell yeah 252 phial gang

Did you get yours today Vel?

[oak sky]

he didnt

[balmy condor]

No

[gusty mirage]

I wonder if I’ll ever see a max level phial in my vault

Next season for sure

[balmy condor]

Because that would mean theres nothing stopping me from playing outlaw

[hollow river]

Atm artifact daggers again pls

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

I can’t hide behind “oh sorry no mainhand”

[arctic walrus]

@balmy condor I’ve been struggling trying to get my parses up do you have any tips

[oak sky]

yo vel i got you play sub instead

[balmy condor]

Yeah so you’re gonna want to get sylv belt first

[slow marsh]

Find a kyrian druid friend

Then loot 252 phial

[arctic walrus]

Okay then what

[balmy condor]

Then bind your fusion amp

[gusty mirage]

[arctic walrus]

I use counter measure sir

[balmy condor]

Same trinket different flavor

[arctic walrus]

It was a gear swap fluke

[balmy condor]

Then you’re gonna want to say 3 hail rae’s

And buy your entire guild out to simp

[arctic walrus]

He steals KA from me then runs dashing as sub but okay

[balmy condor]

@shy dust yo dawg early onset dementia or what

[arctic walrus]

And I almost lost but let’s not discuss that

[balmy condor]

Gotta take this man’s keys away

Gramps can’t drive anymore

[gusty mirage]

I vaguely remember someone running resounding as venthyr too

[quaint carbon]

hey where do i have to on a log to see the gained an wasted CPs?

[balmy condor]

Tables Resources, combo points

[quaint carbon]

ah good ty !

[slow marsh]

Tables resources -> combo points

[balmy condor]

Combo points is a little Dropdown-menu on the left

[slow marsh]

No problem

Oh and combo points will be in the drop-down on the left

[shy dust]

Yo dawg your logs are still shit

Lost to a sub rogue using dashing

L

[balmy condor]

[arctic walrus]

This discord is the only time you’ll see your name in Orange

[shy dust]

Had to handicap myself for getting an external

[arctic walrus]

I portrays my greens accurately

[balmy condor]

Orange on nerzul tonight with tornado L

[slow marsh]

Savagery

[oak sky]

yo that one went hard

[balmy condor]

Cry about externals

[arctic walrus]

Literally basically in essence if you round up I’m rank 1 nerzhul L

[balmy condor]

[arctic walrus]

[oak sky]

actually true though

[balmy condor]

Round up to the nearest 100k?

[slow marsh]

Can't wait to see what Vel can do with a 252 phial

[oak sky]

vel logs slap tbh

[arctic walrus]

They don’t

To me

[oak sky]

at least 2 of them do

[arctic walrus]

I’m literally depressed over them

It is a problem

[oak sky]

i only care about sylv now basically

[balmy condor]

Yeah, the 2 vel logs that slap, rae and doc marten

[oak sky]

i need to beat more of these external bitches

[arctic walrus]

I got arrow 9.9k dk gonna shit on me still

[oak sky]

damn

i got arrow tonight

i get bitch side in p2 tho

[gusty mirage]

Let’s be real he was gonna shit on you anyway

[arctic walrus]

I got the same arrow TWO PULLS IN A ROW

[gusty mirage]

It’s a kink for him at this point

[oak sky]

is your sylv private logged vel?

[arctic walrus]

Yeah but I like it so it’s a symbiotic kink

Why would it be

[oak sky]

idk

[strange python]

Sylv my only log under 98 :(

[arctic walrus]

Should be up

[oak sky]

yeah i didnt see it yet earlier

[slow marsh]

My logs are retired this tier

[arctic walrus]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qkGfyaQdtwbv1X2L#fight=1&type=damage-done

There ugo

[oak sky]

oh

was your

9.9k in p3

[arctic walrus]

Yes

[oak sky]

thought u meant whole fight

thats why

[arctic walrus]

If it want to parse you play ct don’t let guy see this comment

[oak sky]

naaaah

[strange python]

Oh what's considered good for p3? I did about 10.3

[oak sky]

i did 10.4

but cev did 11k once

ive been trying

its like

really difficult

[strange python]

10.8 is my max a few weeks ago

[arctic walrus]

Our kill time has been consistently fucking dogshit

[strange python]

We're doing fast push tomorrow I'm so excited

[oak sky]

i just got my 2nd dagger tonight

so i was behind on gear compared to other top logs

[arctic walrus]

Me too

[oak sky]

idk how much i can do

[strange python]

I wish we could filter logs by p3

[arctic walrus]

How about we first take care of externals 😆👍

[strange python]

That too

[slow marsh]

Yeah

[oak sky]

you kinda slammed on some of your bosses though vel

keep up the good work

[strange python]

I've managed to get top 70 without but feeling pretty gassed

I wanna ask for a kindred and Pi week to see how I do, but I don't wanna be that guy

[slow marsh]

I mean this late in the tier with externals being what they are for sin it's pretty rough

[arctic walrus]

Humans forget. Wcl saves for years.

[oak sky]

true

[strange python]

Our druid would give me Kindred Aff on first 7, since we make him re-venth for last 3 for sales

But I'll never get any simpage on last three

[oak sky]

yeah ive never gotten an external

maybe a pull of remnant

or a few

thats it

we dont have a disc usually

[arctic walrus]

Btw

I never wish to commit the atrocities I committed on soulrender

Never again

[slow marsh]

I lost windfury with new guild

[oak sky]

lol did your whole guild not touch vel

[strange python]

I'm a trial who's already been accused of caring about parses too much. But I so badly wanna ask for a simp week

[oak sky]

my good log on that boss a bunch of people were gone

like all our padders

[arctic walrus]

No they definitely did but I still felt fucking vile

[oak sky]

we had alts in and shit

[arctic walrus]

Go look at the log and you can see who has prio

[oak sky]

ill check when i finish this aram

[arctic walrus]

But outside of opener I never touched boss with cds

[strange python]

I'm not positive how to top log on painsmith tbh. I think I'd have to ask for us to hold lust until potion comes up p3?

[oak sky]

i think you get lucky

[slow marsh]

With dashing too nice

[oak sky]

and balls spawn on you

[arctic walrus]

You’re not gonna top log just because you got 2 pots

[oak sky]

one thing ive tried is funneling on the 2nd ball

like with a rupture

the one that doesnt die

[strange python]

I've already got like 80 something on painsmith I'm not sure what else I could do. I guess just simpage

[slow marsh]

More add damage

[arctic walrus]

I mean you can run ct, edge fok spam, play around mfd resets

[strange python]

I do that.

[slow marsh]

Painsmith parse is largely on adds

[strange python]

The logs above me are primarily externaled as far as I can tell

[arctic walrus]

Gives you more funnel but it’s a greater risk that it bank on crit

[strange python]

Rank 80 something, not 80%.

[arctic walrus]

Didn’t you just say you get ka on first 7

[strange python]

No

I could if I asked but I haven't so far. And don't wanna build a reputation as trial

[oak sky]

i dont think adds matter tbh

[slow marsh]

I mean you could run CT and dot up balls more for harder winds I guess

[oak sky]

nah

thats more rng for winds to hit balls

[arctic walrus]

That’s what I said but go off queen

[oak sky]

o

iunno

ill just have to see what i can do with my gear now

on painer

[hollow river]

Could track Winds

[oak sky]

i mean the externals are awful even worse than i expected

[hollow river]

Only do when it’s safe

[oak sky]

nah tracking winds doesnt do anything

[hollow river]

?

[oak sky]

but then you just do less damage unless winds hits

[hollow river]

If you’re specifically trying to funnel on balls

[oak sky]

idk

[slow marsh]

Tracking winds is low-key useless unless you're gonna sync a vanish or some shit for it

[oak sky]

that doesnt work

you cant force your winds to crit

[hollow river]

You simply wouldn’t dot balls if Winds would go off while they’re on the platform?

[oak sky]

yeah ok

so

ct is 11s right

that means you can only press ct when winds isnt up for over 11s

and you would also have to watch your fok

and your deadly poison

and then you just lose boss damage since you dont have pb

idk

[arctic walrus]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qkGfyaQdtwbv1X2L#fight=28&type=damage-done&source=13

@oak sky

Find a ball hit

In the first 6 wipes

Of winds that is

[oak sky]

i get them a lot tbh

[slow marsh]

Hey did you guys know that you can hit 2cp animacharge with vanish garrote garrote inside of vendetta for 9.2 kyrian stonks?

[arctic walrus]

That’s it for new tho

[oak sky]

it just seems sussy

[arctic walrus]

If You high roll go big dick

[oak sky]

true

[arctic walrus]

Don’t pick and choose

[oak sky]

how did you do so much damage

on soulrender

i still

[hollow river]

Disagree tbh

[oak sky]

i meant your deadly poison in relation to fok mostly

dunno

i dont think ct seems like the move on painsmith really

[hollow river]

Isn’t Winds consuming all your crits over a set 20 seconds

That are under 3k or something iirc?

[slow marsh]

I mean the top log Russian guy has twice the amount of PB dam as a lot of others under him

[oak sky]

rng pb can be hype

[slow marsh]

My run tonight I only had 80k pb

Meanwhile he figured out how to

[hollow river]

Was he juiced with externals

[slow marsh]

Sorry 128k lmao

[oak sky]

wait

[slow marsh]

Ofc he was

[hollow river]

So PB crit a lot I’d assume

[oak sky]

my last log it did around 120k

[slow marsh]

I accidentally ran obedience is probably why mine was so low

[arctic walrus]

Ct go mongo target the adds with all of your abilities

[oak sky]

ill take notes and attempt to blast soulrender tomorrow

[arctic walrus]

I’d rather you not

[oak sky]

i dont think i can do 17k

i wouldnt worry too much

im not a very good padder

[slow marsh]

Ptr notes tomorrow for Thursday maintenance or next week

[bleak sky]

ptr tomorrow

[slow marsh]

There's scheduled maintenance Thursday for mythic testing why not

I'm tired of all the parse degeneracy I want to get back to 9.2 speculation degeneracy

[oak sky]

i want the 9.2 prog log degeneracy

[carmine vigil]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[carmine vigil]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Herodamage: https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[regal cloud]

Anyone know if the the Sepsis stealth ability trigger nightstalker talent?

[balmy condor]

Does not

Sepsis allows the usage of a stealth ability, it does not grant stealth bonuses

[regal cloud]

Fak unlucky, thx for answer :)

[eternal turtle]

yo if you are on 5cp 40energy, shiv coming off cd in 3 sec, do you pool and shiv at 5cp or do you envenom and then shiv with lower energy

[oak sky]

if i had to guess it really doesnt matter as long as you dont overcap

so if you wouldnt overcap by pooling for shiv you do that

overcap on energy that is

3 seconds is kind of long so it might be the move to just envenom

[strange python]

Legit excited to do fast push sylv

[scenic kelp]

15 weeks, still no edge 😦

[uneven summit]

dont worry im on all 29 weeks

[molten galleon]

Guys 252 IQD or 239 Ocular, IQD sims 200dps more but I Know that that thing can be off quite far, any recommendations? 🙂

with 100% Stat SIm and no Execute

[uneven summit]

IQD, but if you´re short on Crit, then ocular imo

i used 252 iqd up untill yesterday where i got FCM

[drifting cloud]

can I see that iqd sim

200 doesnt sound right

[molten galleon]

Got 40% crit with IQD 43% with Ocular,, still IQD ?

On bloodmallet, its Oculat > IQD on the ilvls but i dont trust that site lol

[strange python]

Iqd should sim a good bit higher than ocular. Imo both are slightly sim baity

[drifting cloud]

how is ocular sim bait for assa lol

I have kills when it literally has 100% uptime, and the lowest it goes is like 97

[barren stirrup]

What does assas opener look like?

[drifting cloud]

its the same

[strange python]

Because it functions entirely differently if you're an average player who stands in more mechanics, has worse healers, or heals yourself less effectively

I have friends who would have atrocious uptime on that trinket if they ran in

[drifting cloud]

that doesnt make it a sim bait

[strange python]

I guess simbait is the wrong phrase, but people should look at how often they're below half if they plan to run it

It's not like an amp/phial/faulty where the sim largely just translates directly to play with no other considerations

[arctic cloud]

boys we made it, we got a HC dagger out the vault today

what a time to be alive

[thorny pond]

Gratz man!

[alpine latch]

Well, we 1-shot Tarragrue (like I said we'd do months ago). Got the Eye down to 17%. Just need people to do more damage 😢

[viscid spear]

At least we know you're doing damage

[alpine latch]

I'm still beating #2 by 2k DPS on almost every pull (and doing more than the bottom 2 DPS combined)

[viscid spear]

My only competition is an insane Warrior

[alpine latch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3r4Yn7WkKdxchtGB#fight=27&type=damage-done

That was our best pull last night

[viscid spear]

Like there's no one else, it's just the two of us competing for top

[alpine latch]

Yeah, that's common

In both of my guilds, almost no one can touch me.

Every now and then when a Boomie gets PIs I lose

[whole cypress]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[viscid spear]

Warrior always gets me on encounters like The Nine though

[alpine latch]

Warriors can pump

We have a warrior coming back to re-join us after being part of a CE guild. I expect to be #2 almost constantly

[spice spire]

That’s fairly low across the board. It’s a simple fight that will just trip guilds up due to the swapping mechanic.

Just work at it, the first three are pretty free

[alpine latch]

We aren't swapping

We're just burning the adds

If people would stop dying to dumb shit, we have it.

One of the pulls, a hunter stood on top of the chains marker with lethargy and killed like 3 of them

[spice spire]

That’s even worse

[viscid spear]

Always hunters

[alpine latch]

yeah

We got it though

One of the DHs we had in there last night hadn't played in 4 months

We're doing a heroic re-clear on Thursday

[viscid spear]

Demon Hunters

[spice spire]

Ash crapping on all my Alts

[viscid spear]

My alts are Mage & Priest, so have at it

[rotund oak]

Silly question so late into the tier but

is it an actual gain to let bleed fall of or refresh later into their pandemic or it doesnt rly matter

[spice spire]

You definitely don’t want the bleed to fall off, if it can be helped

[rotund oak]

was thinking about what was the actual gain on that minmax afer hitting a dummy and wathcing my logs fo an hour or so

[spice spire]

DH and Mage, though I apparently need to roll a warrior to make sure we have buffs, which is fine it seems fun

[rotund oak]

progressing on sylv

[viscid spear]

I started working hard on the Mage because neither our main or alt groups have one. It's boggling, but no one wanted to be a Mage last tier

[nocturne geode]

My prog kill with Sylv I took blood set just Incase lol small loss in damage but ended up healing about 1.4-2k hps to myself or the tanks/raid

[drifting cloud]

[nocturne geode]

Still did top boss damage 😂

[spice spire]

But frost also does about the same healing and is better damage

[viscid spear]

Trololol?

[quasi ledge]

Yeah not sure on that thought process of going blood set :p

[hollow river]

Sometimes I would refresh dots early on sylv

Right before a veil perhaps

(In p1)

Trying to keep 100% uptime on em

Also in p1 intermission you can keep up 5 stacks of alacrity

By using PK on the boss and MFD if you’re running it

[viscid spear]

Do we throw knives at her in P2 while crossing bridges?

[hollow river]

Then make sure you go into p2 with 5 cp

[hollow river]

I didn’t

I would hit her right before phasing and refresh alacrity and build 5cp

If I fucked up the 5 cp part I’d MFD her in p2 when crossing bridge if I had to

I kept 100% alacrity uptime for that entire fight

Unless I got double jump Wailing Arrow in p3

[soft shale]

double jump is the same you save cp and use snd or whatever

[hollow river]

Sure I just never really prepped like I should have for it

I’d refresh dots

Instead of saving 5cp

[soft shale]

just remember to do the short jump way

[hollow river]

Before I left

[hollow river]

Ye always

I’d come back before veil too

[quasi ledge]

I just finish as I go to jump, easily back in time before it drops

[hollow river]

I never made it back in time

I jumped back after the scream

[quasi ledge]

I usually land as scream spawns and make it to my spot before it goes off

[hollow river]

My spot was far

So I never risked it

[bleak sky]

ngl

with this damage you guys should just swap sides

[alpine latch]

Probably, but it's not my call

I get into enough arguments with the RL

[bleak sky]

I know this is a P3 pull but

[spice spire]

I thought the same

We swap and our damage is a bit better

[bleak sky]

actually, watching the replay and watching other kills

taking a min to kill the intermission eyes is fine I think, but I don't think some of them can take the damage

anyway NEXT RAID NIGHT IS A KILL EZPZ

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

GM 88.6 best average mythic parser oxii-Illidan

[gusty mirage]

so you inted your damage for 100 more hps?

interesting.

[spice spire]

Every raid king

@ me

[bleak sky]

that fleshcraft value

[spice spire]

Yes man

Never skip flesh day

[gusty mirage]

lmao not you

man that nine parse coulda been something special if I didn't get LIED to by our boomkin

[bleak sky]

fleshcraft

[hollow river]

We did the most ghetto ass strat for the eye last night

We usually never swap and we do fine

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire look at these deviants

[hollow river]

Roughly 6-7 stacks

Last night we had trials in

[spice spire]

Animals

[hollow river]

We held CDs on pull guys

[bleak sky]

what

[spice spire]

Just take one external like a real man

[hollow river]

And only CD’d the adds

[bleak sky]

but why

[spice spire]

[hollow river]

It felt disgusting 😦

[spice spire]

So I learned last night our boomy holds his frenzy for adds

[hollow river]

We didn’t have our boomies in

[spice spire]

And everything makes so much more sense

[hollow river]

And more

[bleak sky]

lust on pull?

lust on pull is fun

[hollow river]

We usually lust on pull

[gusty mirage]

only 17 of us in the top 100 that have 0 externals

[viscid spear]

We lust after the boss dies

[hollow river]

I think we listed p3 last night

[spice spire]

We lust p3 still.

[spice spire]

Elite club

[bleak sky]

so you're top 17 rogue US

[spice spire]

I don’t feel as bad for getting KA as necrolord

[gusty mirage]

only 3 sin rogues in the top 50 with 0 externals on the 9

YIKES

[potent dagger]

Hey guys , i'm back in the game since two days , and was wondering if there are any change to optimal covenant for assasination in raid and in MM+ ?

[bleak sky]

venthyr

[gusty mirage]

still venthyr

[potent dagger]

K great

[hollow river]

I love when I see people with KA get top 100 logs and they’re not even using CDs correctly

It’s so awesome to see

[spice spire]

You’ve brought about the age of externals

[hollow river]

Great game

[potent dagger]

Still with obe yeah ?

[spice spire]

see my copy pasta

[spice spire]

That or dashing

[viscid spear]

It's sad that you guys get Kyrian Druids when all I get are Venthyr and NF

[hollow river]

For raid Daahing with Frost shards

[thorny pond]

Why are you attacking me like this in public?

[spice spire]

Whichever sims better

[gusty mirage]

who's you guys?

[hollow river]

[potent dagger]

i rather obe gameplay ^^ find dashing to be too sluggish ^^

[spice spire]

Man doesn’t have shooters in the streets

[gusty mirage]

dashing gives you energy

[spice spire]

He is the shooter

[gusty mirage]

how does it feel too sluggish?

[hollow river]

Feels the same to be real

Obe is actually easier to fuck up

By a decent margin IMO

[potent dagger]

But i njoyed the gameplay obe + MfD

[hollow river]

If you fuck up 1 flag window and get a mechanic you auto lose out on so much value

Or if you hold flag

For anything

And lose out on CDR