assassination

[gusty mirage]

ran a few dungeons with him in bfa, it was rough

[balmy condor]

Sin is a mechanic check

[arctic hare]

I still haven't managed to pull off 1 minute yet

[balmy condor]

Realistically sin challenge is a 3v3 arena fight but really drawn out, scripted, and you need to do sustained dps

[arctic hare]

Yeah, uh

[balmy condor]

But in terms of cc and shit

[arctic hare]

I fail SO BAD at it lol

[balmy condor]

It’s more like pvp

Than actual PvE

[arctic hare]

Really?

[gusty mirage]

yeah

[thorny pond]

It's straight from TotGC

[gusty mirage]

it's figuring out the triggers of abilities and stopping them

or you die

[arctic hare]

Hmm...

yeah, dying is my forte in the fight

[gusty mirage]

nab the weakaura off Wago

it'll help you

[arctic hare]

oh?

heheh, TO WAGIO!

[gusty mirage]

I got you

one sec

[uneven hamlet]

got to the enrage 3x before buying the bfa pot, and killed it

[gusty mirage]

https://wago.io/H0S9XkEC4

[arctic hare]

K, time to find the talents that are recommended, to the wowhead crap

Which poison is recommended

the slow or numbing

[thorny pond]

numbing

[arctic hare]

sweet

[thorny pond]

you only really kite as few times and that's not totally needed since you can just KS and evasion

[arctic hare]

Hmm, okay

[thorny pond]

I treated it almost like a tank would

just live,

[arctic hare]

Trying to figure out what my best chances of doing this stuff is

[thorny pond]

It sounds like the weak arua is your best friend

[arctic hare]

it is

already have it

[thorny pond]

there's basically 9 mechanics, 2 of which you just have aren't consequential, the other 7 you need to know them and how to counteract them

[arctic hare]

Right

[thorny pond]

I know everyone says be ready for overlap but no matter when the mechanics happen you always do them the same way

[arctic hare]

theres the pools, stupid pools

K, who should i focus first? or just focus all of em?

[thorny pond]

Just focus on going in and knowing you are going to die a bit. Try to get father each time and understand why you died and how to get past it next time

[arctic hare]

GAHH

They refuse to stop hitting me

[thorny pond]

Open with garrote on all 3 and rupture them all, keep bleeds up (vanish on CD to keep empowered garrotes on 2/3) CT when possible and you'll envenom not as much as you are used to

[arctic hare]

For some reason they won't stop meleeing me

[thorny pond]

They really don't

[arctic hare]

even the mage dude, and I can't use kidney shot against warlock

[thorny pond]

Jarl is the only one with deadly melee

[arctic hare]

And those axes,

those axes SUCK

I feel like this is gonna suck a lot

[thorny pond]

Just have fun with it

[arctic hare]

tried sub and got much farther lol

[thorny pond]

don't stress out over it

[arctic hare]

Think I'll start saving evasion for that berserk thing Jarl does

[thorny pond]

yep

[desert rain]

The sub one is Def harder than the assa one imo

[thorny pond]

different kind of hard

Pornstar hard vs acne nerd at prom hard

[desert rain]

Haha I'm no sure I got it

[thorny pond]

That sucks because it’s an amazing metaphor

[desert rain]

If you keep your calm and stay reactiv at all time assa one is fairly ez, but with the sub one I felt like I could not fuck up a single input

[desert rain]

Yeah that's why I'm trying hard to figure it out

[radiant gale]

If Jarl starts coming in to melee am I screwing up?

[balmy condor]

No

You just want to hold him at a distance to make it easier to dodge axes

But kidney is good to mitigate it

[radiant gale]

I watched your vid lmao. You made it look ezpz. And thought I had some insight at that point but guess not yet

I suppose I'll do the macro for him

[plush isle]

Monk WW Challenge is a joke compared to Sin

No Damage Check, just Chill until both are dead

[radiant gale]

I'd consider Outlaw since I think I saw it was "easier" but no sword and meh

[plush isle]

@radiant gale Do you Kidney Shot the Bladestorm ? Blind on Sigryn before she got the Debuff so you can damage her immediately, Unbridled Fury is Strong, some Guildmates told me the Mechagone Trinket would do much damage but didnt needed it, first trys my overall damage was 900-1k but after some Damageuptime Changes i got to 1,3k

after that you dont have any problem with the damage check

[radiant gale]

The Mechagon Trinket?

Oh the punch card thing?

[plush isle]

yes

[radiant gale]

Lmao this Rogue existed after SL launch

[balmy condor]

:) lots of practice

[lethal heart]

tbh its allright to tank a bit of axes early on for dps etc

realistically you only die if you fuck up and get hit by an angel

or tank berserk

[radiant gale]

Kick every Shadowbolt I can, yea? Nothing else to kick?

I made it to getting 1 healy orb once

[plush isle]

@radiant gale if you have problems surviving just run some old raids and hope for leech gear, got to 24% leech, but had damage problems with Whispyrs Build so i switched to EP and it was easy

[lethal heart]

id kick 1st sbolt insta and then hold kick for 1st runes so he moves with me when i run

just for the extra dps uptime

[radiant gale]

EP?

[grand ridge]

i only bothered kicking to get the dude to move.. sometimes he just stands wherever he feels like and other times moves while casting

i think the move while casting is triggered by being in mele range of him

[radiant gale]

Oh Elab Planning

[lethal heart]

yee you can kick on cd tho doesnt really matter i think

bolt does like 500-600 damage i think

[radiant gale]

Yuh got 16% Leech atm. Mainly from the talent lol

[hollow river]

there's a cast you have to kick

[balmy condor]

Yeah… the directions for the guides were to make them apply to the average player that didn’t have tertiaries, old world cheese, etc, and when you only got leeching poison for your healing, MP is just too good, the damage loss isn’t even that bad. If you have a ton of leech already though ep is definitely better

[hollow river]

when you break they're shield

iirc?

[lethal heart]

yea

correct

there is

that shield is easyish to break. If you just have dots on the target and commit 1 evis you'll break it

envenom*

[hollow river]

really hoping now that i have time i will clear one of them this weekend

[lethal heart]

idk if there is benefit to trying to kick very last seconda tho

id just kick once some other ability appeared like angels

[radiant gale]

Ope messed up his big kid shield but that was my best attempt though low dps but oh well

[hollow river]

it'd be nice if you knew when they were going to do they're mechanics

[lethal heart]

dps check is decently tight

[hollow river]

like % phasing

or something

is the fight scripted at all?

[cobalt gyro]

yeah pretty scripted

[lethal heart]

i think it is scripted ye

[radiant gale]

Can't I just leave Sig more or less blinded?

[lethal heart]

its very messy in the end tho

[balmy condor]

You’ll struggle with dps that way from experience

[radiant gale]

Butts

[cobalt gyro]

i did it to reduce damage when i was low, but otherwise there's not much point to it

doesn't delay her spells

[lethal heart]

once you get to 5-6 minute mark its lots of stuff happening at the same time

like you'll get shield quite often with berserk from axe guy

super annoying

[radiant gale]

Which uh old content you suggest then? If I decide to farm it at all

[cobalt gyro]

tbh the brutal one i found was around 4 min in where it's glyph / zerk / glyph + charge

always had to cloak it

[radiant gale]

Yea his charge is mean

[lethal heart]

you could make lazy macros and make your regular blind bind be blind at sigryn macro

[radiant gale]

Oh I did lol same with Cheap Shot

[hollow river]

when exactly do you blind

[lethal heart]

probably handy so you never have to sorry about it

[hollow river]

right after the cast goes off right?

[plush isle]

Legion Raid, dont have to be Mythic, all will scale to 50

[cobalt gyro]

ideally before she gets it off

[lethal heart]

worry*

[cobalt gyro]

if you do it after you need to let her sit in it

[lethal heart]

i dont remember the name of the ability sorry

[hollow river]

i heard something about her casting it again

if you fuck something up

[cobalt gyro]

blood of the father or something

[lethal heart]

one that makes her do big aoe dam

[plush isle]

Emerald Nightmare is good because no T-Sets.

[cobalt gyro]

i never had her cast it again but i was using soul capacitor so i found it really hard if i blinded her after she got the buff

sometimes the soul cap explosion would break her out

[radiant gale]

Side note: Does Deadly Poison unbuff itself from time to time?

[lethal heart]

you really wanna cast it beforeshe finishes it coz then you have to let her sit full blind and your dps is gonna suffer and maybe even impossible to meet dps check

[radiant gale]

Or am I dumb

[lethal heart]

bot sure if its even possible to let her sit full blinds idk

[cobalt gyro]

blind will remove all your effects from her

[radiant gale]

Oh no no I meant like in all content

Like the weapon buff on you

[hollow river]

does Agatha have any kind of dps check?

enrage w/e

[cobalt gyro]

soft enrage on her

she slowly deals more and more damage

[strange python]

its rly insignifcent tho

[radiant gale]

I'm constantly having to reapply Deadly when my other poison still has a lengthy timer left

[hollow river]

what's the timing

if anyone knows

[cobalt gyro]

she gets stacks from the imps that channel on her

so its not really a t imer

[hollow river]

oh

[cobalt gyro]

i think on my clear she had like, maybe 5?

[plush isle]

after a wipe ?

[slim jay]

dude when i get this shit down to low health the runeseer yells his line then doesnt show a cast bar but still cast his stuff

[hollow river]

i only tried the outlaw one a couple times tbh

[opaque lake]

Okey, I tried MT now the whole day. Now I cant get even close to a kill. I do get a lot of damage from the axes. How should I play this mechanic? I just stand in meele if jarl throws his axes and try my best to dodge it but the axes are so unpredictable.

[radiant gale]

Wipe or rezone sometimes iirc

[hollow river]

sub one seems very doable but i never saw the end

[cobalt gyro]

i struggled with that too, i found it way better to just apply rupture/ct on him and fuck off for awhile to reduce incoming dmg

[strange python]

outlaw is alot easier, if you understand how the fight works it gets rly easy

[hollow river]

i mean its basically just turn and burn

kill any imps asap

[plush isle]

maybe its a scaling issue and they have to erase the poison on your weapons, had to reapply everytime, its not just you

[cobalt gyro]

yeah in TW you have to do it every time

[radiant gale]

What about like current content? It's not like the biggest issue. I just reapply it BUT was curious if I was just dumb or not lol

[opaque lake]

I feel like I have to dot all enemies because the dps check is so high. On my best try I reached enraged with like 8% left.

[strange python]

everything is on timer except her tp, tp is health based, first 50% then 35%, after that she tps every 50 sec, you can just ignore the suicide imps by walking to the edge while cleaving and let them explode

[cobalt gyro]

i didn't know there was an actual enrage on it tbh

but i finished it with like, idk. 1.3k dps or something

[hollow river]

let them explode on me?

[strange python]

let them start the cast and walk away

[hollow river]

i was trying to kite them, in a circle around the boss lmao

ahhhhhh

that just made my life so much easier tyty

[strange python]

but make sure the pool will not be in the way

[cobalt gyro]

boss died the first time i killed either of her generals, the diffuculty drops incredibly once one is

[hollow river]

yeah

generals?

[cobalt gyro]

yeah, there's sigryn and her two generals

[hollow river]

oh you meant the assa challenge my b

[strange python]

if you get ravage seeed pod it basicly one shots every imp phase, and lines up perfect with it

it from first boss emerald nightmare, takes 3 minutes to try to get it

[hollow river]

only get 1 shot to try and get it?

[strange python]

it did 30 k damage on one of my kills, i think it will be rly good for the assa as well since its a aoe ability

[hollow river]

for the week i mean

[strange python]

2, heroic and myhic

[hollow river]

damn was hoping it was a shorter lock out

i was trying to get a tincture

[strange python]

is it expensive on your server?

[cobalt gyro]

tbh might go farm for unbridled fury mats

holy fuk those are expensive now

[hollow river]

non existent on my server

was trying to get a guildie to make it for me but they'd have to go farm old dungeons for gear to make Expulsom

[strange python]

ah, i have done it on to acconts, one without anything except enchants, and the other i did with tinc and ravage seed pod, and it was like 50% easier

but i also had more experience when i used the trinkets so that helped aswell

[hollow river]

how much dam does Satyr enchant do

[strange python]

not sure i used siphoning for both kills

[hollow river]

nonexistent on my server as well

[strange python]

wanted to buy dreadful gear, but each piece was like 25 k and you had to snipe them to get em

[hollow river]

war-scrolls good?

ahh those are lvl 50 and below

[cobalt gyro]

you're 45 in TW

[hollow river]

true

didn't know if that'd work

[grave scroll]

so anyone beat mage tower as ASS rogue yet

[hollow river]

yes

some have

[cobalt gyro]

yeh i did it

[strange python]

i would just try get ravage seed pod and tinc, and focus on the fight, there is not that much that will help, if you do 700 dps you are more than able to do it

[clever kindle]

does about 4400 in timewalking

might be worth even with the channel

[cobalt gyro]

its not rly that good for assa trial

[strange python]

i think ravage seed pod is bis for almost every class for my

mt

[grave scroll]

😮

[strange python]

1820 dps for every enemy

damage, not dps

[hollow river]

you can't get this anymore tho correct

[drifting cloud]

isnt it just mechagon rep

[strange python]

tbf i dont that trink is that good, its a channel and a 2 min cd

[oak jungle]

on 3 targets do you only tempest to maintain dot or do you spam it

[oak sky]

Maintain

[oak jungle]

legend ty

[strange python]

*update on my post about assasss mage tower, i checked my bank found that i had 3 legos from legion time, literally made it very very easy, i think its just bc of the stats, bc the lego bonuses dont work

[drifting cloud]

stats on 2 item dont change much my dude you just played better

[hollow river]

Pog he played better

[strange python]

i was reaching my dps check

whereas i wasnt before

i would reach enraged timer

every time

i got 4 legendaries on atm

[austere mango]

To anyone wondering if you could CC Sigryn; you cannot. I was told I could earlier, but I found out the hard way that was wrong

DPS check is definitely fairly tight on the enrage

CC sigryn when she enrages*

[shell ivy]

do you mean blind doesnt work when she enrages?

[austere mango]

yeah

I tried to blind, and Kidney shot

didn't work. Unless I'm going completely mental

[shell ivy]

well kidney sure doesnt work

but i'm very skeptical about the fact that y cant blind her on enrage

would be very evil

[glass tulip]

Why would that be evil

hitting the enrage timer means you are supposed to lose

[shell ivy]

well she supposed to spam cast it

so ur just ultimately gonna run out of blind cd

[cobalt gyro]

you can blind her 2x in a row

before you won't be able to do it again bc of cd

[shell ivy]

yeah and thats why u have some leniency

for enrage

so if u cant blind her while enrage would just be very sad for hopeful ppl

[cobalt gyro]

i didn't even know there was an enrage on the fight though so

it shouldn't be that tight

[shell ivy]

i think its called a soft enrage

i havent tried other classes but the hard enrages ones are clear

this one is just, you run out of ur tools

[glass tulip]

There is a hard enrage as well

[shell ivy]

what is it?

[cosmic sandal]

is there a reason why evasion sometimes decides not to dodge anything

jarl can suck my nut

[glass tulip]

Sigryn will stop casting and beat you to death

[balmy condor]

they get a buff for like 300% more damage and you can't cc sigryn

[balmy condor]

are you facing him

[shell ivy]

wtf

[balmy condor]

evasion (and dodge) are directional

[cosmic sandal]

sure am

[cobalt gyro]

Well it must be a pretty low damage check because I didn't see it whatsoever

[balmy condor]

so you gotta stare him dead in the eyes

[shell ivy]

then you were right you reached the hard enrage

[balmy condor]

if it doesn't work

you're hitting enrage

[cosmic sandal]

unless i was sidewards but i swear i wasnt

[shell ivy]

so am i just crazy or there is indeed both a soft enrage and a hard enrage?

i have never experienced the uncc'able one

[cosmic sandal]

im just giga tilted

[balmy condor]

there kinda is

[glass tulip]

5:00 and 6:30

[balmy condor]

they'll start casting all 3 at once

[shell ivy]

yea so i'm not crazy

[balmy condor]

which isn't managable if jarl is alive

so if you get there with jarl alive, you're boned

[shell ivy]

i thought the overlap casting ones were the 6:30 timer

[drifting cloud]

nah whispyr

you evasion and kidney the last 1/3

but I mean breaking the shield is free anyways

[shell ivy]

and at 5:00 is just part of the script

[drifting cloud]

you can just kite jarl and shield just breaks from dots

[cobalt gyro]

I assumed 5:00 was part of the script as well

[balmy condor]

you can kite my shaft and break my nuts homie

[drifting cloud]

but if they do that more than once then youre wiping to enrage anyways Id assume

[cobalt gyro]

Didn't feel like even a soft enrage, just felt like I sucked

[drifting cloud]

atleast to me they only did it once

[balmy condor]

I struggled on the triple overlap

tbh

took me 2-3 times seeing it to actually figure it out

[drifting cloud]

yeah same because I forgot to blind two or tree times

[cobalt gyro]

Same pretty much whisp

That and the uh

[glass tulip]

I always go blind -> kidney/kite -> dps shield

[cobalt gyro]

Double runes at about 2:50

[glass tulip]

on the triple

[balmy condor]

double runes are cringe

idk who decided that was a good idea

[cobalt gyro]

Double runes with the dash

[glass tulip]

smetimes triple

[cobalt gyro]

Real cool

I just cloaked the dash, fuck that

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/legion-timewalking-mage-tower-extended-for-2-additional-weeks-325285?webhook

[shell ivy]

damn

was there an inscrease in player base

i wouldnt be surprised

but thats nice

[balmy condor]

@low girder my dream is becoming reality

[cobalt gyro]

Now madge at them on Twitter about legion m+ staying

[low girder]

[glass tulip]

I bet a bunch of boomer legion players resubbed to play mage tower

and then tried it 3 times and quit

[cobalt gyro]

Did u see this tweet tho he apparently 1 shot the sigryn trial

[shell ivy]

XD

[cobalt gyro]

Because it's a fucking demo lock trial

Imagine how fucking easy that would be

[balmy condor]

arcane mage cleared it in 2 minutes

[cobalt gyro]

Thd*

Do they just slam explosions and barrages

[shell ivy]

can i see that twteet

[weak plover]

Just refresh dots 4head

[balmy condor]

but yeah it honestly didn't feel that bad

[shell ivy]

i had a friend who did it as wl and felt it was much harder than what he was witnessing on my rogue pov

[cobalt gyro]

What lmao

[balmy condor]

that's cap

[shell ivy]

well

the legion one

[cobalt gyro]

They can just run away from anything that kills you

[shell ivy]

dunno if its different then

[austere mango]

Yay managed to beat the enrage timer

[drifting cloud]

yeah legion assa was easier than this one

[shell ivy]

i mean i thought the same honestly, wl doesnt have as much mobility

[drifting cloud]

and lock was getting shafted back then by it

[austere mango]

I tell you what, keeping up with the bleeds and the mechanics on 450ping and unstable african internet was rough as shit

[shell ivy]

so we jsut reverted

😤

but i'm actually happy assa one wasnt as easy as it sounds like it was in legion

[cobalt gyro]

Aww are the wanged cwasses having a hawd time, awwwww

Now they know how we feel in raids

[shell ivy]

i'm not sure if i wanna venture into the sub one

i've done the outlaw quickly

but the sub one is

[indigo valley]

is countermeasure buffed by vendetta?

[austere mango]

I've been told the sub one is rough on the dps check last phase

I did it pretty easily on my arms war

[shell ivy]

i watched a friend do it as arms

i thought warriors didnt have self healing until he explained me they have this health regen talent

[balmy condor]

trinkets are not buffed by anything spec related

no nature damage trinket shiv stuff

no vendetta stuff

no nightstalker from stealth

MA crit

[hollow river]

they're nerfing the trinkets

ahahaha

[balmy condor]

I hope it's not overnerfed

old world stuff being good should be welcomed

[cobalt gyro]

Just don't nerf my soul cap and I'll be ok

[hollow river]

yeah i mean i wasn't planning on farming it at all but i didn't mind it

gives the playbase something to farm

so they can pArSe

i am happy about the extension though

gives me time to farm MT on other classes during my vacation 🙂

[balmy condor]

I think it's okay if they keep a couple items at equal or slightly better

[hollow river]

same but

it shouldn't ever feel obligatory for people progging raid

[balmy condor]

like would maelstrom or countermeasure being 0.3% better compared to fusion amp really be that bad

[hollow river]

ya kno

nah

it being 2% is nbd

can always just make more OP trinkets in next raid

[echo geyser]

? are they

[hollow river]

ye

[echo geyser]

u mean the healing one for challange

or legion tw ones

[hollow river]

no

tw ones

check wowhead

blue posts are in

[echo geyser]

[celest ruin]

do you guys think theyll also nerf the cos ring or nah

[hollow river]

the launch codes have been leaked

no telling

if it's anything over 1% it's possible i suppose

[echo geyser]

they better not nerf the trinkets

[echo geyser]

i think they already did

[shell kettle]

Looks like thats exactly what is happening :/

[hollow river]

Mage Tower officially gutted, congratulations casuals, everything has to be free in this game now I guess 🙂

LOL

[echo geyser]

good it was too hard

[cobalt gyro]

Ok I take some of the blame for this

[hollow river]

bruh

[strange python]

when did they nerf it?

[hollow river]

how many tried did it take you

[cobalt gyro]

I'll admit it, I used broken ass time walking sets on every timewalking week

[echo geyser]

idk dodging balls is pretty hard

[shadow tulip]

Guys am I dumb thinking mastery MIGHT raise in stat prio with 2set?

[hollow river]

no nerfs to rogue chalenges

[echo geyser]

4 tries all death to balls

[balmy condor]

no

[hollow river]

WF key doer

dies to balls

amazing ❤️

[echo geyser]

[shadow tulip]

That seems like a pretty banger bonus now compared to the original

[balmy condor]

the 2 set went from like 1.3% dps gain to 2.5%

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

better in aoe obviously

but you still need crit to generate any amount of cp

so

[hollow river]

gonna be weird tying shiv to aoe lol

but its a nice change of pace

[shadow tulip]

😄

[balmy condor]

i mean

[shell kettle]

I died to balls once :x

[balmy condor]

you still shiv in aoe

right now

[shell kettle]

Balls op, nerf balls

[hollow river]

yes

but like

now you might delay "X" seconds

for add sets

etc

[oak sky]

Wait they nerfed mage tower

Noooo

I didnt have time to do it earlier

[cobalt gyro]

I think they wanted the average player to be able to complete it which I guess is fair

Glad I cleared mine before nerfs

[hollow river]

no rogue challenge changes yet

[shadow tulip]

I didn't even bother to 😄
Got the artifact skin, so I didn't really care honestly 😄

[hollow river]

literally added 1 second before Xylem casts his barrage inside the razor ice

that's it

they nerfed some of the others

[versed mica]

After spending two days of constantly throwing myself at them, I hope blizzard nerfs them

Good on those with the skills to do it but damn

To be fair I didn't minmax old gear and shit

[strange python]

i feel like we shouldnt need to

and thats why it needs to be nerfed

[spark scaffold]

Did they say they're gonna nerf them?

[versed mica]

Blizzard put out some nerfs, but none for rogue challenges yet

[balmy condor]

xylem got nerfed

that's sub

[versed mica]

Oh, I thought he was only nerfed for DH and frost dk

[spark scaffold]

I mean the tw items

[balmy condor]

they did say that, yes

[versed mica]

They mentioned they were looking at them

Didn't name any specifics but

[normal mist]

New date for mage tower yey

[spark scaffold]

RIP whetstone?

[normal mist]

Until 4th jan

[versed mica]

Faulty counter is probably the culprit

[spark scaffold]

Pretty much

[balmy condor]

whetstones and countermeasure for sure

[cosmic sandal]

i actually dont think i have the mental capacity to do mt after that rubbish

[versed mica]

But idk, I did the outlaw and sin rogue MT stuff when it was current, it was hard but I would be like "okay, it's because I messed up on this"

But this time around it's like

I just don't do enough damage and struggle to survive

[oak sky]

Oh cool im gonna finish it tonight before it gets nerfed then

[cosmic sandal]

mines always " i messed up", legit ill be focused on one this and something will go off that i should hear because of my weakaura but my small brain just doesnt think

every time

[drifting cloud]

the assa one? I doubt it would get nerfed

[cosmic sandal]

enhance shamans have 0 issues

the boss on my enhance was so easy

[hollow river]

hardly though blizzard damage was completely a non issue

[cosmic sandal]

as sin, im struggling

idk

[drifting cloud]

its not easy, just not sure its nerf worthy

[balmy condor]

I agree

[drifting cloud]

I struggled on frost mage which is probably a 3 shot for most people

[cosmic sandal]

yeah i dont want them to nerf it

[balmy condor]

I don't think it's honestly that bad

[drifting cloud]

[cosmic sandal]

this close to just not bothering

[spark scaffold]

Assa challenge is a lot more fun than others imo

[cosmic sandal]

not fun after your 91st attempt

[drifting cloud]

just get the weakaura and nythendra pod and should be good to go

and the 2-3 macros so you dont have to think

[copper sundial]

boo if they nerf the trinkets

ppl farming the crap out of them last few days

[spark scaffold]

Yes

If I'm not too bad at maths for cos it takes 15 dungs in average to get either ring or trinket and 30 more to get the other

Thats 45 dungeon runs for both items in average and if you do it and then they get nerfed its such a huge time waste

[copper sundial]

half way there myself

[drifting cloud]

it should just get nerfed its way too strong

like half a tier better than mythic trinket

[spark scaffold]

If they plan to nerf it they should announce it as soon as possible

[drifting cloud]

that just means you have to refarm it in 6months

[copper sundial]

whats the point of nerfing it now anyway, the tier is almost over

[drifting cloud]

whats the point of farming it now anyways, the tier is almost over

see how that works

[copper sundial]

you must be fun in parties

[drifting cloud]

upset because your argument doesnt hold up?

[grim tangle]

imagine going to parties instead of playing wow

[drifting cloud]

yeah the only party is in vault of the wardens

[hollow river]

exactly

[thorny pond]

you forgot about my pants

[bright pulsar]

Faulty Countermeasure Still worth it after the "Hotfix"??

[echo geyser]

theres no nerf yet so who knows

[bright pulsar]

I just got it dropped xD and after that 1 read about the trinket nerf xD so I hope its not going to be massive haha

[balmy condor]

okay I didn't ask who knows, I asked if it's worth kiddo

[echo geyser]

just do this

[clever kindle]

true is being lazy because blizzard always nerfs fun

[bleak sky]

faulty countemeasure doesn't reset

and I'm madge

[cosmic sandal]

I SUCK

[honest rain]

whic trinekt is op?

for mt as rogue

[cosmic sandal]

I blinded syg as soon as she started casting her big bad, and she still casted

is that enrage

or did i just not do it

1 dude left on the field

[honest rain]

can someone tell me which trinekts are bis for magetower?

im to bad to bear ith with pvp gear only

[drifting cloud]

seed pood, 2nd one can be alot of things

[honest rain]

for example?

[drifting cloud]

arcanocrystal, cof, the mechagon laser

[honest rain]

whats cof?

[drifting cloud]

the one from nighthold that reduces vendetta cd

[honest rain]

hm okay ty

now i have to farm old content for doing shit tower

[drifting cloud]

well 4 runs of nythendra take like 10min 😄

[honest rain]

it already droped

but still

they disabled a lot fo stuff

and i still have to do it

any other good trinekts from emerald dream

wasnt the ursoc one op in legion?

[shell kettle]

This boss is a cuck and im not sure I can be arsed with the effort when I've already gotten my set through the sub challenge

[honest heath]

is hte ravage seed pod also good for the outlaw MT too?

[pure sinew]

so does the 100% crit change make dashing scoundrel better or worse

you get more energy but the crit chance is no longer real

[drifting cloud]

were not gonna play dashing with tier

most likely

obed/dusk looking strong

[pure sinew]

ye i read pins

never heard of dusk before today

[dawn ivy]

@pure sinew either way dashing effects your poisons, 2pc effects your bleeds

[pure sinew]

o ic

they dont interact at all

i read it wrong

mb

[cosmic sandal]

holy dooly man what the hell am i doing with my life

guys i did it

thanks

[drifting cloud]

gratz

[thick sail]

Is this Mage Tower challenge possible, or am I just bad

I am not going back and farming old gear just to do this crap

[honest rain]

did anyone beat the mt trio while blindign syg on dr?

i have like 900~ dps

[balmy condor]

gratz

[balmy condor]

very possible

[clever kindle]

wtf actual rogue dev post

3 posts

been a long day so i didnt see until now

[thick sail]

should I be wearing the legendary daggers or just my 252 mythic daggers

This fight is cancer

[clever kindle]

legendary daggers are too low ilvl I think if you mean the cata daggers

[thick sail]

Yeah, those

[clever kindle]

I dont think stuff scales up, just down

[thick sail]

That is unfortunate.

[strange python]

I DID IT BOYS

FINALLY

40 tries today

literally had to stay in melee range of axe thrower all the time and dodge to manage the dps check

and break the blind instantly

[balmy condor]

[strange python]

and obviously maintain dots on all

[edgy orbit]

I got about 100 runs in and can't do mt. I basically gave up, my last run I was at 1k dps and hit enrage again

[spark scaffold]

Which enrage?

The soft or hard one?

[edgy orbit]

630

[spark scaffold]

Damn, did you itemize for haste mastery?

[edgy orbit]

i got mosty haste and crit

I can try swapping in some mastery

[thick sail]

am I like, supposed to crippling kite the Jarl guy?

or am I supposed to use mind numbing?

[strange python]

i used crippling

i ended up 1.2k dps overall when i finished mine

i think i managed my dots better in my kill

[balmy condor]

I used numbing personally

[strange python]

i think the main thing is to keep crimson tempest (a tip someone gave me) which helped a lot

on all 3

and garrote+rupture

[cosmic sandal]

I tried but nah, you have to break it instantly.

[thick sail]

So I just used Blind on Syg while she was casting Blood of the Father, and broke it instantly as everyone is recommending.

The bullshit ability then continued damaging me after I broke it.

Really great fight lol

So is that a bug, or do I need to keep her blinded for a while and then break it?

[shell kettle]

You need to use blind to interrupt the cast. If the cast goes through you cant break it

[faint harness]

Same

Whats your take on numbing vs no utility poison at all?

I feel like there is a bug where i am doing less dmg if i have numb or crippling up, care to comment?

[strange python]

you need to blind her before

before the cast goes out

if the cast goes out keep her in blind but will be tight for dps check

so always try and blind before she is buffed

[shell kettle]

I wouldnt be half as annoyed as i am if I didnt have to fly back from the GY when randomly spawned there, repair, phase back in and listen to the RP every single time it doesnt work out

[marble hemlock]

[stoic bobcat]

Will 2 piece set rework make it strong enough?

[balmy condor]

In what context

[thick sail]

Okay, I tried Assassination 30 times and couldn't get their hp below 75%

I tried Subtlety 4 times and got it to the last phase

Balanced gameplay

[balmy condor]

This is a you problem, not a fight problem

[slow marsh]

Dang I was vibin so hard today until that blue post too

Maybe I sleep and wake up to a new post saying just kidding

[thick sail]

It's not good game design

[balmy condor]

?

[thick sail]

When I need to read a guide to have some semblance of how to beat the fight, it's not good game design

[dawn ivy]

oof

[balmy condor]

Who said you need to read a guide

I didn’t need to read a guide

I wrote it all by myself

[thick sail]

I read your guide

[balmy condor]

The fight is just one overlap to the next

[stoic bobcat]

In single target, aoe and cleave. I assume it is good enough for aoe compared to other two spec.

[thick sail]

In the assassination fight, the battle doesn't make clear enough when abilities are being cast

[balmy condor]

It does virtually nothing for single target, the okay in cleave, good in aoe, but it’s also Assassination so if you’re trying to aoe you’re already losing the fight

[balmy condor]

[thick sail]

Let me put this another way

It's bad game design that I need a mod for a UI and macros for focus targets in order to effectively fight this boss

[balmy condor]

Every important ability has a cast timer and an announcement, both in audio, and visual

[slow marsh]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

You don’t need that either

[dawn ivy]

i mean this in no harmful intent, but you might just be ignoring things

[balmy condor]

I didn’t use the macros I put in the guide

And idk what ui elements you need for the fight

[slow marsh]

Bad game design that you focus blind even though it's been in the game since it began

[thick sail]

It's a very punishing fight and it's dumb that you need to stack leech and use Leeching Poisons, a talent that's been worthless all expansion, in order to have a chance

That's super non intuitive

[dawn ivy]

wow

thats a hot take i think

[balmy condor]

Leeching poison has been good

[thick sail]

"wear gear that isn't your highest ilev gear"

[slow marsh]

Yikers

[thick sail]

That's not intuitive

[slow marsh]

You are not intuitive

[balmy condor]

I also didn’t have any additional leech gear

[stoic bobcat]

that means, for single target 2 piece set bonus needs a complete rework / a change

[thick sail]

Weren't you wearing a trinket that continuously heals you?

[slow marsh]

Yessir

[thick sail]

I don't have that, and it's dumb that we should farm outdated content

To clear "current" content

[slow marsh]

We need the 2p to make bleeds do damage not increase crit rate for them

[charred wraith]

You have alternatives in current content

You just didnt bother looking into them

[balmy condor]

I used a vendetta cdr trinket and ocular gland

[thick sail]

Well, true I guess I could kill Morgeth once per week in hopes I get the selfhealing trinket there

That I threw away a long time ago

[balmy condor]

And CoF got nerfed

[balmy condor]

It doesn’t really, because the power single target is the 4 piece

The 2 set is weak out of necessity

If the 2 set were crazy in single target, then the 4 set would need to be not crazy

[slow marsh]

Sounds good to me where can I sign up

[balmy condor]

You also don’t have to btw, the tower is beatable in current shadowlands gear. I wouldn’t be using the legion trinket if I did it now, and you don’t need the extra 4% vers I had either

[manic harness]

Hey that Crit Trinket from Legion M+, what is it called?

[balmy condor]

Assassination mage tower is a mechanic check

And a dps check

And that’s it

If you can deal with the mechanics while multidotting, you win

[balmy condor]

Faulty countermeasures from vault? It’s like fusion amp with crit as a stat?

[manic harness]

Yeah I think that's it

[balmy condor]

Unless you mean eye of command, which gave stacking crit

That’s not obtainable

Since Kara isn’t available

[stoic bobcat]

it does not need to be crazy but what i see that if bleed damage stays this low 2p and 4p bonus combined will not compensate the lost of frost shards bonus, am I wrong?

[manic harness]

yeah Faulty Counter

[thick sail]

It's not a mechanic check. You can't use Shiv to dispel the Jarl's enrage, which makes no sense.

It's not a multidot check. It's, "did you stack enough Leech to survive 3 people hitting you while also doing the mechanics"

[slow marsh]

No you're not but they'll figure it out

[manic harness]

Okay so I guess I need to do Vault and COS

[balmy condor]

In what world is bleed damage low with the 4 piece, did you do raid testing?

[thick sail]

You need to manage your limited interrupts without actually knowing at what intervals the mobs will use their (near) oneshot abilities

[slow marsh]

It is a mechanic check bubba

They go in a set order

Evasion tank jarl enrage and then kidney, or vice versa

[faint harness]

last phase IS the sub fight, so unless you killed it already i dont think you can declare yourself a winner already

[slow marsh]

You just want to blame the game instead of taking responsibility

[balmy condor]

You don’t deal with Jarl’s fixate with shiv, you use other class mechanics for that.

It is a multi dot check because you need enough dps to kill jarl before the soft enrage

[shell kettle]

I mean the cast is longer than your kick cd though

[thick sail]

The mage's cast is longer than the kick cd, sure. But the main girl's cast is quick, sometimes would give no warning, and it kills you in like 4 ticks

[balmy condor]

There are 2 things to interrupt, the fixate, and blood of the father, and you have kidney/evasion for the first, and blind for the second. You can free-kick the caster adds shadow bolts because the shield cast is longer than kick cd

That’s just a bad argument

[slow marsh]

Pull out the spellbook and put blind on the bars

[thick sail]

Fixate, blood of the father, the whirlwind, while also dotting, while also picking up the runes

[shell kettle]

I dont see what the one has to do with the other

[thick sail]

Should i just not be kicking the mage's shadowbolts?

[balmy condor]

You don’t even need to interrupt the whirlwind

[slow marsh]

They do no damage

[balmy condor]

But you can kidney that as well

[slow marsh]

You just kick to drag it

[small basin]

they definitely do damage

2nd on my damage taken

[balmy condor]

They do damage

But you Just Spam kick it for free

There’s nothing else to kick

[small basin]

yea

you always have kick for the channel

cos its so long

[thick sail]

Do you not find it disorienting to go into a fight with Blind having a 30s reduced cooldown without any mention of this except a debuff

I probably tried this at least 10 times having no idea about Blind

[stoic bobcat]

No I didn't. That is what i gathered from previous comments. Regardless of the bleed damage, do set bonuses compensate the lost of domination shards. I am curious about this because what puts sin in a good position in SoD was primarily domination shards.

[shell kettle]

You can literally just make macros dedicating blind to boss 1, kick to boss 2 and kidney to boss 3. Never even have to target them just press the right button at the right time and be in range for them to work.

The overlaps are more fucky than anything else, but I wouldn't say the mechanics are hard to deal with on an individual level

[small basin]

it has a lot going on

just have ot keep doing it

until you get it down

took me 2 hrs

[balmy condor]

End of the day, if you do the mechanics, and you do the damage, you win.

If you’re dying to overlaps, you need to adjust how you’re dealing with those overlaps

If you’re not doing enough damage, you need to figure out how to get more bleed uptime

If you’re dying to axes you need to dodge them, kite out, kidney the axe cast, and use your orbs better

If you think you’re doing all of that properly and still wiping, you’re not, and you need to look at yourself because the fight simply is not the problem anymore

[thick sail]

Yeah three mobs that essentially look the same, trying to tab target to get the correct one, and the targeting UI of the game being so bad that you need to create focus target macros in order to beat the fight

Is not good design

[small basin]

the design is fine lol

[balmy condor]

Idk if it makes up for it, but garrote and rupture are your top damage by a good amount

[small basin]

its just difficult

and use the macros whispyr added in the guide

[thick sail]

Oh no question about that

[small basin]

for auto targetting

kidney blind

[slow marsh]

You are my top damage by a good amount

[balmy condor]

Blaming the base game UI ain’t the move here king

You have ways to work around that

[thick sail]

Using focus macros feels like cheating, my man

[small basin]

yeah garrote rupture and CT were my top damage by far

[thick sail]

But yeah

[small basin]

its a bleed fight

[thick sail]

I guess I will try them

[small basin]

what???

focus macros are part of the game

[slow marsh]

I guess stick to classic then ? Idk. Season of mastery just came out

[balmy condor]

Well if it feels like cheating, do it without it, like I did, and others have as well

[shell kettle]

So then cheat, nobody is keeping score

[charred wraith]

Pvp players are cheaters man

[small basin]

focus macros are just efficient

clicking/ tabbing is not

[charred wraith]

We should ban all ppl in arena

[balmy condor]

If you make the fight hard for yourself, don’t come here and bitch that you aren’t good enough for it

You chose this

[small basin]

yeah idk how i could play arena without focus

[balmy condor]

The gear isn’t the issue

The game isn’t the issue

[thick sail]

Well

[obtuse robin]

keybinds r cheating im gonna go back to clicking my spells

[thick sail]

Me wearing the legendary daggers for 5 attempts

[balmy condor]

If you aren’t clearing, it’s your fault and only your fault

[thick sail]

Was an issue

[slow marsh]

Same

[dawn ivy]

you need to use complex maneuvers to complete a complex task

you cant expect to use normal simple rotations to complete a complex task

[small basin]

i mean you could easily click to blind/ kidney

but why

just use a macro

[slow marsh]

I don't play sin for complex buddy

Those words are too big for me

[charred wraith]

Fuck me im using mouseover on 2/3 of my spells

Am i getting banned?

[balmy condor]

I was too lazy to change my keybinds

[small basin]

mouseover on harmful spells?

[balmy condor]

Personally

I just tab and hit my regular bind

[small basin]

i wouldnt use mouseover on harmful spells, probs ninja pull stuff

[shell kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/table-flip-jontron-rage-reaction-gamer-rage-gif-20907707

[manic harness]

Let me give you a big brain pro gamer tip

[small basin]

i already have every cc on focus binds from pvp so

[charred wraith]

If you dont have pistol shot on mouseover you r missing out

[manic harness]

Shift tab returns to your previous target

oh no is blizz banning me

[small basin]

not if you click though right?

only if you tab then shift tab

[balmy condor]

Cheating at game

[shell kettle]

Pistol shot on mouseover?

[slow marsh]

Why wouldn't you ps on mo

[shell kettle]

Why would you?

[slow marsh]

You get more value on flurry

Do you even outlaw bro

[small basin]

how

[slow marsh]

Flurry always melees

[shell kettle]

I dont see how the one has to do with the other

[slow marsh]

If you ps a mob outside of range

[charred wraith]

Eh there is almost no reason outside of explosives affix

[slow marsh]

You still melee current target

[small basin]

what

really

[shell kettle]

But why would I ps a random mob out of range

[small basin]

you stop melee during pistol shot on current target?

surely you just wanna pistol shot the mob you're hitting

[charred wraith]

To slow it

[slow marsh]

Na

[small basin]

for the damage and BtE debuff

[slow marsh]

If you have mouse over

[balmy condor]

Cringe outlaw gamers -> #outlaw

[manic harness]

yeah but why would I do that when I can make my ranged DPS do that instead

[dawn ivy]

am i high

[slow marsh]

Am I dead

[small basin]

pistol shot slow is also piss

like 30% right

[balmy condor]

This channel is exclusively to complain about how I’m not good enough to do a mechanically difficult fight, and blame everything except myself in the process

[charred wraith]

You r just jealous

[balmy condor]

Stop talking about outlaw

[slow marsh]

No

[balmy condor]

I want to complain

[dawn ivy]

oh snap

[charred wraith]

That we r capped

[oak sky]

can they nerf melee damage

and nerf ax dam

an

[slow marsh]

This channel is for me to cry about how the devs can't get tier set right

[balmy condor]

Axes should heal me

[obtuse robin]

and im here to entertain myself with whysprs complaining

[slow marsh]

Then get in fights with cfs

[spice spire]

Based

[manic harness]

I'm just here to admire Whispyr

honestly

[spice spire]

Also on brand

[balmy condor]

stop I get nervous when pretty people look at me

[slow marsh]

Then after I get in a fight with cf work on my redemption arc

[manic harness]

I tried switching back to Assassination so I can focus on raid leading, it did not go well boys

[slow marsh]

Path to reformed

Then do it again next tier

[spice spire]

The iceblades post outlaw arc

Truly a reformation of the ages

Rivals the story of even tyler1

[oak sky]

can we nerf

shadow bolt

too

!

[manic harness]

warriors?

oh

I thought you were gonna say those low int yellers

[slow marsh]

Warriors nerf themselves

[oak sky]

can we nerf berserk auto damage

can we buff sin rogue damage in mage tower

[spice spire]

Are we zooming

[oak sky]

but dont change our tier set it looks sick

[balmy condor]

We got a warrior trial who isn’t in a single class discord, denies sims, argued about legendary usage, and then called himself tyler1 for going against the grain and being a chad by himself with no tc help

[slow marsh]

Stop that

[spice spire]

Yes of course

Kinda based tho

[slow marsh]

I say that we push to get 2p changed to :

[spice spire]

imagine if he had good info tho

[oak sky]

fr though

the aoe on tier set

is 👍

but

[slow marsh]

Pressing mutilate increases the damage of your next mutilate by 500%

Then we can achieve godhood

[spice spire]

I forget what this channel looks like at 2 am on a Saturday

[oak sky]

he forgor

💀

[spice spire]

You apes unleashed

Kinda love it actually

[slow marsh]

Bruh it's 1am on a Saturday I been in bed for 3 hours I have to reverse my boomerness

[manic harness]

[spice spire]

Been awake for 23 hours - L + u fell off + 9.2 is an outlaw tier

[manic harness]

Why do you say 9.2 is an outlaw tier?

[obtuse robin]

L + ratio

[slow marsh]

I hope 9.2 isn't an outlaw tier cuz then I'll get flamed for being good at it

[spice spire]

It is not, it’s just a meme, I promise

[spice spire]

I got the screenshots ready to use too king

[obtuse robin]

just like how u got flamed earlier for your feelcraft

[slow marsh]

Oh boy

[manic harness]

oshi~

[slow marsh]

I always get flamed for every thing it's kinda my niche

[obtuse robin]

can wonderboy ice do it again

[slow marsh]

Yeah but oshi was never right. That's the difference

[obtuse robin]

he did once already

[spice spire]

What you all don’t realize is ice is a man of science

[raven vapor]

is the countermeasure nerf hitting it outside of the mage tower do we know?

[spice spire]

If he fucks up 500000 times, doesn’t matter if he finds the solution

[manic harness]

what we really need to be asking ourselves is, does he also hate the orphans?

[slow marsh]

Hey if there's a will there's a way

[balmy condor]

Cause outlaw 4 set rework with 2 set nerf combines to infinite damage

[manic harness]

fuck

[spice spire]

Timing was impeccable

[slow marsh]

Outlaw 4p is gonna be they summon a giant cannonball that destroys the whole raid

[balmy condor]

We don’t know

[charred wraith]

The gun will just one shot like irl

[umbral rapids]

[balmy condor]

And I’ll point it at my head if you make me play that spec

[spice spire]

Mind… wheels turning…. Outlaw 4p… infinite damage

[umbral rapids]

oh man

[slow marsh]

I'm calling the police

[umbral rapids]

i don't want you to do that

[slow marsh]

@gusty mirage

[umbral rapids]

but i would love to see you play outlaw ngl

[slow marsh]

Arrest this man

[balmy condor]

Russian roulette type beat load a bullet into the chamber

Everytime it fails, load another bullet

[umbral rapids]

everytime main gauche procs*

[slow marsh]

Are you sure

[balmy condor]

At 6 bullets, die and go to heaven where you play a real spec

[umbral rapids]

yeah 100%

[charred wraith]

Gun just jams at 6 bullets ez

[slow marsh]

Are you really sure

[umbral rapids]

yes

[oak sky]

lol i just got countermeasure

with leech

[obtuse robin]

BIG

[slow marsh]

Massive

[shell kettle]

Do you guys have a link to these reworked sets?

[slow marsh]

Agreonr best rogue on tich now ez

[balmy condor]

and right before a huge nerf too!

[oak sky]

2 tries baby!

[balmy condor]

They aren’t reworked yet

[shell kettle]

Sorry I dont follow, surely these things dont come out of nowhere

[charred wraith]

We ll have at least one 1 week to play around with them in raid next reset

[manic harness]

wait they're nerfing countermeasure?

fuuuu

[balmy condor]

The blue post said they’re reworking 4 set

[charred wraith]

They just said they are looking into specific tw legion trinkets

[balmy condor]

The 2 set will have to get nerfed to balance it

And uhhh I’m not saying anything more

[shell kettle]

[obtuse robin]

[slow marsh]

Can you say

Potato

[balmy condor]

Which pronunciation of potato

[slow marsh]

Any of them

[balmy condor]

Potato

[slow marsh]

Thanks

[charred wraith]

Thats cool

[balmy condor]

Np

[small basin]

if i play internal bleeding its a dps increase to kidney right?

i know iron wire is better

[balmy condor]

Yes

[small basin]

ok thnx

[balmy condor]

Internal bleeding kidney is worth more than an envenom

[slow marsh]

IB energy gen kinda nutty too

[balmy condor]

But less than a rupture

Is I think how that works

[slow marsh]

Can we agree to nerf 4p by 50% to change 2p to make bleeds be affected by shivs damage amp

Like is that too much to ask

[keen garden]

Bloodfang simming at 1% behind doomblade, 2% behind zoldyck in dungeon slice... Is this memes? (dont like obedience desyncing Flag+amp trinket)

Feel like blood-fang talk is usually bout it being bad (still newish to sin)

[charred wraith]

Why do you ppl put so much meaning into flag + amp syncing

[dawn ivy]

because it makes me feel pretty

[keen garden]

It just feels good, I got nothin else

Gives a thing to macro together so there's less buttons to press, keep that brain nice n smooth

[oak sky]

i feel like this+ the crit buff applying in aoe would be decent

[tropic fog]

Yo guys been at this challenge for 16 hours fury took me only 3 i don’t grt what i’m doing wrong

[oak sky]

if they really want to do the crit buff

[tropic fog]

1.1k overall dps i keep dying to the enrage after jarl dies all i can i think of is allocating all vendettas to the caster instead

[slow marsh]

The crit thing is irrelevant imo idk why they're stuck on it. Just tacking on bleeds to shiv's damage amp and keeping the aoe portion would be great

[oak sky]

yeah either way

i think the crit thing could keep the aoe from being out of control while still giving us nice st/funnel if we get bleed amp only with the shiv debuff

[tropic fog]

Any advice would be great

[solid venture]

there is literally a guide for mage tower in the pins sir

read it

[tropic fog]

Already did

[tropic fog]

Asked a specific question give me a specific answer next time or don’t bother

[slow marsh]

Full blind sig and get caster to 8%

[slow marsh]

I mean aoe won't get out of control though it's still tied to shiv

[tropic fog]

No shit, Vendetta mainly on caster or Jarl

[thin trout]

aw yis i got the trinket, now i just need the ring from COS - https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/avWjYVxsBzcWjjSLsFGYk5

[balmy condor]

They share health it doesn’t matter

Use on whatever you can hit

I would use it on caster

Cause I held jarl away

[tropic fog]

Sounds good thank you

[slow marsh]

What's up with slow MT gamers being so fiesty

[cinder topaz]

Hi all ! i'm extremely new to rogue - so i grabbed an addon to help with my rotation and it's recommending this - what is this ability?

[slow marsh]

Crippling poison

And I would uninstall that addon and just take 10 mins to read through a guide

[balmy condor]

Np

[slow marsh]

Sin is quite simple conceptually and using those kinds of add-ons, most of which are not even updated, is just setting youtself up for failure