assassination

[gusty mirage]

had a buddy do that

"rogue is so easy"

"Which one did you do?"

"Oh outlaw with max sockets"

oh okay

[golden basalt]

but now I really want to do it pre-nerf, if theres a nerf coming so to speak

but im torn between enjoying the challenge and wanting to delete my rogue

[strange python]

I have an enh - i'm tempted to try it on him

They said they just leave the one dude perma hexed

[lethal heart]

im scared to ask but is hov challenge harder now than in legion

or am i just worse

i think it took me less tries in legion than now

[golden basalt]

The dmg check doesnt seem to be nearly as high for enh/arcane as for sin

[lethal heart]

ye i wiped once to enrage i think

[strange python]

You've Got Mail

[lethal heart]

on like 1%

but i didnt really plan my cds or anything just slammed them

[golden basalt]

I get quite comfortably to enrage now but its just killing me around 2% every time

[gusty mirage]

yea I've hit the enrage like 8 tries in a row

super frustrating

[lethal heart]

if anything id fuck up to the overlaps towards the end

getting bad angels with runes

[gusty mirage]

I just save cloak for it

tbh

[lethal heart]

was kinda annoying

ye honestly i fucked up twice coz i pressed my bind for venthyr port

but its disabled

[gusty mirage]

my best try was a wipe where I forgot to set sigryn as my focus

and didn't get the blind off in time

[lethal heart]

also its so weird

coz i once wiped on good try where i blinded bladestorm

and you couldnt

so i just wiped because of that

[gusty mirage]

lmao that happened to me too

[limber lion]

Sebek in a spec channel?

[gusty mirage]

you can still stun sigryn tho

[limber lion]

What year is this?

[gusty mirage]

from what I learned

[lethal heart]

honestly i also didnt want to be stupid

[gusty mirage]

[lethal heart]

and have blind macro

like you can make it kinda free

just have your blind be a macro

[gusty mirage]

ye I have a focus blind macro

and never miss the blind now

[lethal heart]

at whatever

sigryn

or whatever npc name is

[limber lion]

I just used a @boss1 macro

[lethal heart]

ye

you could

[glass tulip]

also boss3 kidney is great too

[lethal heart]

[limber lion]

[lethal heart]

i heard the sub one dps check is rough

ill try tommorow or sth

i watched some warrior do it too and last phase dps check was crazy high

[lethal heart]

ye you can the very 1st 'aoe' or whatever you call it id kidney so my dots dont disappear

[scenic kelp]

someone have the CoS ring and can say if it is worth to farm it?

[strange python]

IS that the +dmg to melee one

[limber lion]

It's definitely worth it if you like free damage

But it's not too too much

[strange python]

scroll up, lots of investigation going on currently.

[limber lion]

Like less than 100 dps

[strange python]

Preliminarily, I'd say it's between 50 and 85 extra dps

But there are some pros working on going over everything i've been working with in DM's

Since I got it and am willing to whack a dummy and supply results I guess lol

I mean for comparison, in sims, Edge of Night 246 vs my old 252 was a 38 dps upgrade so

85 dps isn't a small amount

[scenic kelp]

ty for info. and the faulty countermeasure is in sims a upgrade with 218 dps is it right or are the sims lying?

[limber lion]

Sure is

[scenic kelp]

nvm on assa its 218 and on sub 180~ you think its righjt?

[limber lion]

It's a pretty good trinket

You should get it

[scenic kelp]

ty !

[glass tulip]

ring dropped for healer in my first CoS

[strange python]

lol did he trade it?

[glass tulip]

insta left group

nerd

[strange python]

lol

[fallen ginkgo]

gotta get dem healing logs

[strange python]

Any advice from you Rogue pros on an issue? I'm playing a Gnome (which is my first problem), and I'm tiny. When we're doing fights like Mythic Painsmith, and we're all crowded around his balls (yes, haha), I can't see myself at all. I am hoping and praying that I am not too close to the balls based on where I think I am, but I'm blending in to a larger crowd. Does anyone use an addon that makes it easier to see themselves in a crowd? I have spell settings turned to as low as possible already.

[frosty bridge]

WeakAura

that puts a point in the center of your screen

or a cross

[nocturne geode]

tell them to put a marker on your head

🙂

[frosty bridge]

https://wago.io/position

[strange python]

Oh, I like that. Thank you.

[frosty bridge]

You can also find circles, or dots

Just google "weakaura character position" etc

🙂

[junior rampart]

Drink noggenfogger elixir and become a skeleton.

[strange python]

I actually like the cross so much, i modified the /wa so that it comes on by default in any encounter.

Pretty handy, even for like sylvanas bridges, in case you get mixed up a little

Good advice. Thanks!

[thorn fjord]

The cross is life for people with color blindness too

I was having the same issues on some fights.. started using the crosshair and BAM huge quality of life improvement

[strange python]

Also, the personal spotlight toy - isn't terrible for some stuff - but i do find the crosshairs better

[fleet anchor]

Ok, I think I have initially implemented the ring correctly based on the data @strange python sent over. Maybe some issues with normalization that other specs can deal with but the numbers seem to match for Assassination anyway. But will need some more testing I'm sure.

100 DPS might be optimistic tbh based on the initial look

[spice spire]

Well even for him it was 80ish yeah?

[fleet anchor]

Was only like 45 in his last test

Without random buffs

[spice spire]

Oh

That’s uh worse

Than I thought it would be

I was expecting around a 50ish gain, so maybe not even that

[strange python]

There's a component to the frost shards too though

[fleet anchor]

It's more in reality due to damage modifiers and Vers and stuff though

[strange python]

small, but exists

[viscid spear]

I wish the World Shrinker Engineering toy didn't fall of when you enter combat

[fleet anchor]

Realistically it looks like at the end of the day it's probably ~70-80 DPS

Based on some quick comparisons

[spice spire]

I meant even at base, ghost. But sure

I forget the frost diff

[strange python]

i mean 70-80 free dps is not insignificant

[spice spire]

Ye

I was happy at 50 so

[strange python]

Someone paid me 5 mil gold for 38 dps upgrade lol

[vestal wren]

well gz

[strange python]

Course he coulda been going sub so would be more

[fleet anchor]

Yeah but you give up ilevel so that's the main issue vs. raid rings

[strange python]

yeah - both my rings happen to be 246 anyway hah

I have a 252, but it's crit/vers

[fleet anchor]

Without the effect it's -85 DPS for my raid rings

So basically a wash

[strange python]

yeah makes sense

[harsh thicket]

I've a 252 ring Haste/crit and the sylv one on 246 and the +38dps Legion ring lower my dps by a lot

[strange python]

Good work @fleet anchor - glad i could help D:

[fleet anchor]

Yeah thanks for the logs, at least has generally confirmed the ballpark. Better than nothing

Hopefully a Feral or 2H spec can double check

But we only care about daggers so w/e

😄

[viscid spear]

Why is there rainbow text in my chat?

In-game I mean

[harsh thicket]

The only BiS we can can from this event is that insane counter-mesure trinket who give like +110 dps

[glass tulip]

they did what now

[woven prairie]

yea the ring from court doesnt sim higher for anyone in any spec does it? compared to 252 ring with correct stats and sylv ring? 🙂

[strange python]

lol yeah the heroic sylv EON

[fleet anchor]

Honestly only really an upgrade for Venthyr too, due to it syncing well with Flag. Might not really be that much of an upgrade for non-Venthyr really

[strange python]

It dropped for me a few sundays ago, and a guy offered me 5 mil for it. I couldn't turn it down. Got my 246 EON in the vault two days later anyway haha

I woulda taken a mil

[cobalt hemlock]

lucky

[spice spire]

It sims as an upgrade rn, but I’ll know more once I get it

[slow marsh]

counter measure is bis for all melee

[glass tulip]

literally could pay for a Mythic sylv kill to farm 259 EON just from a heroic drop

some people are wild bro

[strange python]

lol i'm locked out every week though

I wasn't present for Remnant kill, but can't go back and kill...i literally hate how the mythic lockout works

[gusty mirage]

I've seen 2 drop in 23 kills

so not that wild

[glass tulip]

I am also 19 weeks dry, never seen one in an actual boss kill

[nocturne geode]

ive seen 0 drop in 20 on heroic and 20 on normal

[glass tulip]

vault week 2 only

[woven prairie]

eon?

[glass tulip]

yes

[gusty mirage]

ye

[strange python]

Honestly though, even if it were 200 dps upgrade, I'd still take 5 mil over it. like it'll be replaced.

[woven prairie]

oh edge

[storm forum]

I've seen one drop on LFR and they couldn't trade it to me

[glass tulip]

pretty true, I would take the money in a heartbeat

[nocturne geode]

just makes me want tokens back

specifically for farming certain drops

the reroll tokens that is

[soft shale]

yes now we kinda miss them

[rapid flame]

any trinkets/rings in particular that stands out and beats current trinkets in particular? From legion m+ that is

[hollow river]

Check general channel pins

[rough kraken]

Poison bomb or crimson tempest for mythic sylv (prog)?

[slow marsh]

PB

[thorny pond]

It’s all about p3 damage

[slow marsh]

enjoy it while it lasts cuz CT is coming

[thorny pond]

I mean that’s fine

[nocturne geode]

@slow marsh dont say it youll summon whispyr

https://tenor.com/view/door-hide-close-bye-cat-gif-22820275

[viscid spear]

[balmy condor]

I felt a disturbance

[gusty mirage]

[copper salmon]

[viscid spear]

[nocturne geode]

hide

[regal cape]

[nocturne geode]

nothing to see here

[gusty mirage]

[viscid spear]

[kind talon]

that is amazing

holy

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

Hope everyone enjoyed the gameplay from sin mage tower like i did xD

[kind talon]

that is amazing

[kind talon]

havent done it

[restive falcon]

6 minutes 42.87seconds at 21% on sigryn

[quasi venture]

Assa was okey. Outlaw wanted me to hit my head thru my monitor, sub was great fun

Successss= MT ty blizz

[nocturne geode]

Endless Tincture of Renewed Combat - did the trick for me in the mage tower

ez

[kind talon]

does that work for sin?

there are mobs in the sin challenge?

[grand ridge]

What I noticed is CT uptime is the key to getting enough damage

Get it above 80%

It should be tied with garrote for top dmg, or it was for me

And drums on pull helps too

And use mutilate not fok. It's really tempting to spam fok but it's not as much dmg

[flint raptor]

Hey, i just got it.
That was Eric said.
CT ist awesome DMG there.

[slow marsh]

Envenom is a wet noodle in MT so don't bother trying to pump 5p envenoms

[kind talon]

doesnt it still give you the poison buff

[slow marsh]

Yeah but it's not worth if you don't have all 3 bleeds on all 3

[kind talon]

obviously

but thats how it works

in general

[vital depot]

since people are already talking about the MT: my smooth brain doesnt understand the logic of the Hurl Axe from Jarl (Assa challenge). There is seemingly no pattern to the axes movement (that I can see) - any insight?

[flint raptor]

yea, i just moved as much as i can. try to be in the middle for the runes.

[thorny pond]

It’s the same mechanic as the kings rest axes basically

Just slowly kite around counter clockwise

I did a really elongated candy cane shape so I could bleed him

[spice spire]

Brother beach got it down to a science

[kind talon]

sheesh

[slow marsh]

getting as much damage into the jarl is key imo

so you can kill him off when they soft enrage

[flint raptor]

but they split their HP right?

[slow marsh]

yeah

but it's not perfectly even

and getting as much damage as you can just means make full use of evasion to face tank all 3 to get as much x3 bleed uptime as you can on all three

and full kidney bladestorm is a lot of extra dps too

[restive falcon]

6 minutes 30 seconds is the enrage timer?

i cannot beat it it apparently

[balmy condor]

Correct

[restive falcon]

i get to like 22-28% and i cant get any lower lmao

cant find a good time to drums either

[celest ruin]

does legion timewalking mplus give renown?

[nocturne geode]

no

[copper sundial]

Make sure you're around the 1.1-1.2k dps and prioritize your dot uptime. Try not to let them sit in blind/cc for too long, you always want to be dpsing all 3 if possible. Timer is tightish.

[grand ridge]

At the end cc /kite sigryn and nuke casty boi

If enrage happens

Blind sigryn before the cast gets off and you can immediately break blind and reapply dots

[restive falcon]

yea im at 1.1k dps but idk when to nuke/kite sigryn

i just had 3 shield/enrage overlaps in like 25 secodns so

[grand ridge]

I think at like the 5 min mark they all start doing their big abilities almost constantly

That's why you want to finish off jarl

[unborn marlin]

What's the verdict on the CoS ring?

[grand ridge]

Less to deal with and he has the lowest health

[restive falcon]

when jarl is at 10% should i just switch off runeseer and kill him

[grand ridge]

Imo keep dot cleaving if you can but use your mutilates on jarl

Runeseer will be doing the explode absorb thing way more often so you have to switch for that. If you mess that up you can survive it with feint and cos

You can survive at full health with just feint

[subtle tundra]

they share health bro.....

[tidal gorge]

I'm kinda irritated that I probably have to put on a bunch of old legendary/artifact gear due to how broken scaling is in timewalking. I only did a few attempts the other day so far, but I seem to recall having significantly less health than Whisp did in his stream video, and was doing less damage.

[grand ridge]

Yeah I had a bunch of leech gear on and daggers which gave me four extra gem sockets

[subtle tundra]

did it relatively easy with only sl gear

and so have many people

[grand ridge]

It seems like having that sort of stuff really helps tho

[subtle tundra]

obviously helps

not necessary

[restive falcon]

ik they share hp but jarl is at 10% runeseer is at like 19 and sigryn is at 28

[tidal gorge]

Well, we'll see. I think I only did like 5-10 attempts. I did all these when they were current in NH gear but it seemed to feel harder than back then

[restive falcon]

that is why i asked lmao

[grand ridge]

It's because they have different max health

Idk if it's true what people are saying about the dmg split not working properly

[slow marsh]

Yes kill the jarl

When I got the the soft enrage I just full blinded sig, kicked the caster and drug both of them out , full kidney jarl into evasion when it drops and he should die, then you just have to get caster to 8% or something

[glass tulip]

it'll take you a few tries to get comfortable with moving the bosses around for multidotting, I think Eric said it earlier but the key is the highest CT uptime you can get while having rupture/garrote on at least 2 targets

[glass tulip]

sigryn to 20

[plain onyx]

when is the next ptr ?

[slow marsh]

Raid testing is in like an hour

[restive falcon]

i got about 90 pulls and die at 28% and hit enrage i had pull where i was at 21% and she just hit enrage at 22%

[twin bay]

having the main boss sit in blind untill the other 2 did their ultimate worked out very well for me...less dmg for sure but better timings

[slow marsh]

It's just bleed uptime my dude. When you blind sig for her thing refresh on the other two then get her out of blind and full dot her. Promise if you have decent uptime on the 3 bleeds and do the mechanics you'll be fine

[thorny pond]

Do damage
Don’t die
Simple geometry

[slow marsh]

Also try your best to full kidney jarl in bladestorm. That's a lot of free time to dps

[slow marsh]

Big dam don't die

words to live by

[thorny pond]

Send it
Tattoo it

[glass tulip]

I just tanked the axes and leeched

[slow marsh]

Yeah on pull i tanked axes

with drums

and pot

[grand ridge]

Same

[slow marsh]

best time to pump imo

[thorny pond]

Just do whatever
As long as you don’t die there isn’t a wrong way

[slow marsh]

Then slowly drag them into the middle

[glass tulip]

the mog looks so clean on the login screen

[slow marsh]

I wish I had better daggies for it

[twin bay]

true

[glass tulip]

same, I just threw on EON for now

[grand ridge]

I went with the legendary ones for the swag

[glass tulip]

I didnt hate the look of the blue Signe dagger either from The Nine

LFR / Normal I think

[thorny pond]

Do you have legion artifacts?

[glass tulip]

I started in shadowlands

so no

[thorny pond]

They match super well to iceshear and ghostblade

Damn

[agile geode]

What Is the hardest boss from mage tower for.rogues?

[restive falcon]

imma just wait

[glass tulip]

I believe the prevailing order of difficulty would be sub -> assass -> outlaw

hardest first, based on what I have heard

[thorny pond]

Sub is straightforward. Once you get p1 it’s just easy and repeatable, tedious though. P2 is a hard damage check that just tests your ability to not waste time

Sin is execution based. Do mechanics keep bleeds up.

[hazy marlin]

i just did the assa one

and im stuck in combat at the end

is this what normally happens?

[slow marsh]

yeah

l;eave instance

[outer cairn]

still struggling to get them even to 50% and doing the same damage whether i leave her in blind or not

so i'm seriously screwing my bleeds

[ebon thorn]

Does talent change on ptr without dom sockets?

and the 4 set

[thorny pond]

Too early to tell still. It may and there are theories

CT being affected by 4pc will shift that into focus

[grand ridge]

Do less envenoms and more bleeds, keep CT up ideally 100% of the time

[slow marsh]

necro has hope

[outer cairn]

thats what i am trying to do but then snd falls off

like i'm totally fucking it

[slow marsh]

its fine if snd falls off

[grand ridge]

I would let it fall off to keep up ct

[slow marsh]

all bleeds up > snd in MT only

[outer cairn]

i guess. idk or i just suck

[slow marsh]

holy shit this xymox fight is lit i love it

[edgy orbit]

how much leech do people have for MT

[balmy condor]

I had 12%

cause leeching gives 10 and mp buffs that by 2

[flint raptor]

I had 13%

[outer cairn]

i still cannot do this. i'm literally keeping bleeds up and my dmg is still under 1k

[flint raptor]

But i won the fight at 7min30secs. Some trys before the enrage from the godqueen Killed me somewhere lile 6min 30secs
Dont know what was different that try. Maybe she was locked into blind.

[outer cairn]

like idk how

blind up or not

[flint raptor]

Maybe try more. I was like "i cant get it without farmimg gear" 5 trys later i got it. You will got it too.
Have a good start. Use vanish garrot to all three guys (with subterfuge)

I started to hit her out of the blind do deal more dmg. Before i kept her in blind. That was a lost of dps too.
Sorry, most Tips were repeated. Just saw it.

[outer cairn]

i am hitting her out of blind. i've got more than 50 pulls now i think. i am struggling to keep bleeds up on all 3 if i pull her out of blind

then if bleed drops energy gets fucked and there goes dmg so may as well die and reset

[grand ridge]

Are you using mutilate or fok

Do you have a nameplate ui like plater

[tawdry dust]

i missed the dmg checks a lot. But then i keep all three in combat. I only blind her to interrupt her cast. The Axe guy when he does his whirl just kidney him. At the end just ignore the shield on the caster mob and cloak his cast, it helps a lot with dmg cause u dont waste any in an absorb shield

[outer cairn]

i been trying to keep all three in combat but then i'm gettign smacked with 14% leech and can't keep bleeds up

[flint raptor]

Nice Tip cloakin the cast I destroyd it everytime.

[outer cairn]

i save cloak for valkys and stupid shit like runes in puddles

[tawdry dust]

they do little dmg when u dont eat any flying axes or tank the axe guy in his "enrage". I did it with 12 % leach 4% vers.
But u have to be rly quick on stuns etc

If you are doing around 1k dps you should be fine

[outer cairn]

i have blind set to macro thats fine. the fucking axes are a pain in the fuck to dodge when you are trying to keep all 3 on you to do dmg

[tawdry dust]

You can stun him while he throws the axes sometimes he just stand there for 10 secs and does nothing

[outer cairn]

i'm geting over trying this with the same result. dying to stupid shit like axes or not meeting dmg

[wild beacon]

i'm doing 1k dps but jarl is at like 10% hp by 5.5 minutes when all the mechanics start stacking up

very close to pushing it over

[tawdry dust]

My kill was 7 mins 11 seconds. Its very messy at the end. just skip one cast with cloak and dps one of the other guys

[outer cairn]

shouldn't even be an enrage

[tawdry dust]

Skadooshbag u can ignore the axe guys when he starts throwing axes and just dps the other two guys. I dont know whats your dps is? But when its around 1k you should be alright and its just execution with a little luck

[outer cairn]

i can hit 1k if i'm doing all 3

now

but now i'm dying to stupid shit

[fathom lynx]

i just want you to know im in the same boat mate

[outer cairn]

like runes in puddles or getting knocked the fuck away when trying ot hit a rune or run over a rune and it doesn't count

[fathom lynx]

i think im at 70 tries lol, just cant get the hang of this one

[wild beacon]

plenty of us working on it still

i'm on 50 tries

[outer cairn]

or getting hit by axes cause they all over the fucking place

it shouldn't be a dmg check imo. it should be exactly what it was before

[tawdry dust]

well at the start of the magetower it was kinda hard. But at the end of legion it was pretty much faceroll because of gear etc

dont know if it was this thight but i rember that i used drums pots etc. the first time

[fathom lynx]

first time around i just used valeeras and just focused on tactics

maybe i should try the latter part actually

[wild beacon]

and that time she kept casting blood of the father after being blinded for 20 seconds, brilliant

[tawdry dust]

yeah if u blind her to late

she gets a aura

then you cant break the blind early and have to wait its full duration. I wiped on that as well

[wild beacon]

how can i go 50 pulls and not realise that's how it works 🤪

[outer cairn]

i didn't really use shit in legion but i was able to SURVIVE

which is what it was, not a damage timed event

and i did it before 7.3 so i didn't have fancy argus gear

[pulsar sable]

is it still not possible to simm the auto attack ring?

[jaunty steeple]

#outlaw message

[pulsar sable]

aight ty

aalso another question, is faulty countermeasure really better than mythic guardian trinket? cus when i run droptimizers it sayts the guardian mythic is a 0.9 upgrade but the countermeasure is a 2.1% upgrade

[balmy condor]

yes

[halcyon zealot]

the trinket is very good, a rogue in my raid was using it last night on slyv and on a pull where my 252 shadowgrasp would average 170-190k dmg her trink was doing 300-330k dmg, same cd same # of uses

[strange python]

damn

I ran it about 6 times now, nothing

[pulsar sable]

pog then ill farm it like crazy now

[glass tulip]

Our DH got it to drop on run #34 and a warrior kept it for fury

Crit isn't even good for fury

[halcyon zealot]

definitely spam low keys especially if you have valor to blow

i was running like 5-7s in like 12 min

[glass tulip]

100%

[pulsar sable]

yeah im only doing low keys

[glass tulip]

If its above a 10 no shot

Court of stars is a really cool dungeon too

[strange python]

yeah we were running 2-7's

[glass tulip]

But the rp makes it suck to farm

[strange python]

i just ran single target cause

nothing i can do on those trash packs that the dh's blow up

[glass tulip]

Pretty much the only difference is CT, I like having it

Especially on the huge belcher pulls in the beginning

[strange python]

CT should just be baseline

i mean it's like borderline not even that good anyway so

[glass tulip]

It is really good if things stay alive long enough

[strange python]

yeah

I mean it's 100% the goto on fate for sure

if your goal is to get more numbers

[balmy condor]

I hate mfd

[outer cairn]

fucking axes!

[pulsar sable]

can you do thee legion dungeons as m0 for ez cahnce on the trinket and ring or only as keys?

[balmy condor]

keys

[pulsar sable]

RIP

[limber lion]

just do a +2

[balmy condor]

I mean even if you could do m0

[limber lion]

it's basically the same thing

[balmy condor]

you would only be able to do it once a week

so it's not great, even if it would work

[pulsar sable]

BUT WOULD BE WORTH TO DO THAT 1 TIOME THO :S

caps ❤️

[jaunty steeple]

why do M0s even have a lockout

[balmy condor]

because idk

tradition

[modest jasper]

you playing it on Lihuvim atm?

[balmy condor]

yes

[modest jasper]

mhm

adds?

[balmy condor]

I'm playing it on everything

[modest jasper]

Oh fair.

😄

[balmy condor]

cause it's strictly better

[modest jasper]

fair fair, did not touch assa in a long time.
Just saw you raiding with us 😄

[limber lion]

[plucky thistle]

Are there any OP trinkets for mage tower?

Other than mechagon trinket

[balmy condor]

cof is pretty good

[wild beacon]

ravaged seed pod from first boss of EN, 4th highest damaging ability for me

gives a bit of leech too

[sand canopy]

Testing breakdown with Subterfuge,MFD,Duskwalkers. bleed bois?

[balmy condor]

looks about normal

[sand canopy]

I wonder with Obedience/Duskwalkers if we might have each flag line up with vendetta

[balmy condor]

you will

they're both a minute

[restive falcon]

after finally changing my entire plan for tower i beat it at 5:43

[balmy condor]

no reason not to

[sand canopy]

that will feel so much better, the timings atm felt so janky

[normal slate]

lol not meeting dps check in tower =[ 1k, need some MT specific gear

[gusty mirage]

what'd you do different?

[restive falcon]

everytime jarl was casting i left him alone and hit sigryn and runeseer, and when sigryn was blind i decided to never break her blind and hit the other 2 and switched 2 talents

[plucky thistle]

But you can blind sigryn before she finish cast and cancel blind or not?

[restive falcon]

i would blind right before she cast and just max bleed on jarl/rune and then max bleed rune/sigryn when he stands still bladestorming and throwing axes

[gusty mirage]

you can

[gusty mirage]

ye I was thinking of doing something similar to that

[restive falcon]

then i just cloaked 2 sets of val'kyr/shield burst and pumped more damage

[winged kindle]

If you’re feeling greedy you can just stand next to Jarl while he throws axes and use feint

[gusty mirage]

yeah idk what to change tbh, I'm hitting enrage at 1.2k dps

[peak bobcat]

What do you mean by enrage?

[slow marsh]

are you full kidney jarl when he starts bladestorm?

[gusty mirage]

ye

[halcyon zealot]

i hate that subt mfd is becoming an reality

[slow marsh]

you forgot CT

[gusty mirage]

at around 6ish minutes they start overlapping everything

[halcyon zealot]

[slow marsh]

yeah i had 2 wipes to enrage then figured it out

[peak bobcat]

So what I found was if I could greed my evasion and cloak early on, then later it was worth to stop attacking during the shield and just bleed and kite

The 6 min over lap is tough but if you can’t kidney the jarl during his Beserk it’s worth to just kite him out the best you can

And stop dps

[slow marsh]

evasion tank jarl berserk before you kidney helps

[peak bobcat]

^

[plucky thistle]

That spell you need blind its her buff? Bcs i dont had target buff enabled in Elvui so sometimes i get aoe dmg and wipe and sometiems not

[peak bobcat]

Your bleeds will do most of the shield damage especially if you have shiv

[slow marsh]

yeah i usually ignored shield as long as i had bleeds up

envenom does no damage so I just focused more on figuring out how to keep 3x bleeds on all 3 as much as i could

[peak bobcat]

It’s actually worth to stop attacking everything and just kite the beserk if you have no evasion and spam FOK to hit them

[slow marsh]

hard casted snd instead of envenom refresh

[gusty mirage]

yeah envenom is actually awful fucking damage

[slow marsh]

yeah dont bother

[gusty mirage]

I was using it to refresh snd

[slow marsh]

it's actually more worth to hard cast snd as sad as it feels

[gusty mirage]

but it didn't even feel worth

[copper sundial]

1.2k u should be killing it before enrage pretty sure

[peak bobcat]

It doesn’t really matter

[slow marsh]

na he needs to kill jarl during the enrage

[peak bobcat]

There’s no true enrage

[slow marsh]

he's right at the end

[peak bobcat]

Just kite it out until jarl dies

And then it’s free

Plus they share damage so hitting the jarl with fok and bleeds lowers the shield no?

[copper sundial]

pretty sure

you basically need to output 405k ish dmg

and the encounter is over

[peak bobcat]

It doesn’t matter how long it takes you though is all I am saying you can just kite and do the mechanics and be fine

You will never be stuck with nothing to do , and will never be an instant loss as long as you keep bleeds up

[copper sundial]

pretty sure they enrage after a certain amount of time

[slow marsh]

they do but it still doesn't necessarily mean it's over

[copper sundial]

u can probably deal with a couple of cycles if your overall dps was a little low but yeah

[gusty mirage]

best attempt I forgot to set my focus

and the aoe went off

[peak bobcat]

Mine too

[copper sundial]

[peak bobcat]

I wiped twice at 3 percent due to no focus

And I broke my blind with CT

[slow marsh]

the biggest hurdle i had to hop was coming to terms that garrote/ct/rup carries the fight so i just needed to keep bleeds up and run around in circles

[gusty mirage]

probably better to just tunnel the last 2 when it gets to that point yeh?

[slow marsh]

yeah full blind sig

[peak bobcat]

Yes

[slow marsh]

and kill jarl

[gusty mirage]

that's probably where I fucked up tbh

[slow marsh]

then caster to 8%

[peak bobcat]

Sig should barely play

Just keep her blind at all times

Less mechanics

[winged kindle]

I found more success by keeping her in the trio personally

[copper sundial]

same

[winged kindle]

Blind before the cast and keep the dots up

[copper sundial]

dpsing all 3 worked for me

[peak bobcat]

I always had dots on her until blind

But I never broke blind

[gusty mirage]

also about a dozen attempts I griefed myself by greeding near the edge of the valykr line rather than standing safe

[peak bobcat]

Yeah it’s tough especially when shield is up

You feel pressured but you have so much time it’s best to just stress the mechanics and you’ll notice your dps will be good enough

I was at 1.2k on mine and I kept sig blinded as much as possible

But I also didn’t use subterfuge I used MA

So I wasn’t triple garroting

[winged kindle]

I also preferred FoK over Mut when they were 3 stacked. Figured with the shared health and all. But Mut during shield

[fading wigeon]

Is it worth putting rupture on painsmith adds?

[restive falcon]

now that all of mage tower is done, any trinkets/ring i sohuld get from timewalking? i got a 259 sylv ring and 252 painsmith ring, and 252phial/252/amp so is getitng the ring from court or vault trink even worth?

[thorny pond]

Sim it

[copper sundial]

you can run droptimizer to see if its worth it for u

[plucky thistle]

Finaly Completed it after 2 days

Potion of Unbridled Fury MVP

[thorny pond]

Gratz

[kind talon]

nice mage tower bug

love it

cannot target them

[fair ether]

Hey

[gusty mirage]

@thorny pond finally started playing smarter

and it was actually ez af

wtf

[fair ether]

How many dps must i have ?

Im around 700dps

[thorny pond]

Do dam
Don’t die
Win

Around 1.1 to 1.2

[oak sky]

@gusty mirage what did you do different

[thorny pond]

Oxi confirmed built different

[gusty mirage]

I just stopped envenoming for snd

and just hard casted it when needed

and only envenomed into vendetta

and just focused on keeping bleeds

forgot to drums lmao

[kind talon]

i got a weakaura

and its making it so easy

LOL

[thorny pond]

It’s a giga easy one once you get grooving. It’s very choreographed

[gusty mirage]

yea the wa helps a lot

[kind talon]

hly

[gusty mirage]

also saved cloak for shitty overlaps

[kind talon]

this weak aura is unreal

[gusty mirage]

I just let one of the shields explode

cuz I didn't wanna risk it

[kind talon]

whoever made this weak aura deserves a raise

irl

[thorny pond]

They put out a WA?

[gusty mirage]

yea

[wild beacon]

yeah it's good

[kind talon]

its insane bro

its so good

[gusty mirage]

https://wago.io/H0S9XkEC4

[fair ether]

Link it please

[thorny pond]

I already did it but glad they put one out
It just lists abilities as they happen?

[gusty mirage]

yeah

with sound queues

almost let an aoe go off on this one

but then it yelled "BOSS"

bam focus blind

ez

[thorny pond]

Oh neat
My autismo wouldn’t be able to handle it

[gusty mirage]

just let her sit the full blind while I stabilized health

and it wasn't even close to enrage

[thorny pond]

Good boy

[gusty mirage]

crazy

[thorny pond]

Whispyr called me crazy

[fair ether]

How do you get 1.2 dps im around 700 with full duellist gear and bleed rotation ok

[gusty mirage]

skipping out on the angels makes the other overlaps manageable

didn't get a full cp kidney on jarl

so I kited it out

[thorny pond]

Atta boy!!

[thorny pond]

Subterfuge garrote keep garrote on CD

Keep rupture up on all 3 unless blinded

CT always up

Dump extra into envenom

Shiv cd

[wild beacon]

i use full consumes, the trinket from first boss EN + unbridled fury pot to get to 1.2k. i'm not skilled enough to reach it without

[thorny pond]

I dunno why the 1.2 number means anything. Like are you dying to enrage?

[wild beacon]

nah just hitting a point near 6 mins where it gets hectic when my dps was lower

[thorny pond]

Yep. That’s the best time to max dps. Refresh dots before bladestorm and use that time to tunnel caster

Little things like that get you there

[wild beacon]

yeah it's all lining up. i'm not a great player but i'm slowly improving. best attempt is jarl at 2%

should get it today

[thorny pond]

Just make conscious decisions. “Oh I know during this bladestorm sig will need blinded. Let me dot him, kick the caster, blind sig, and dumpster the caster

[kind talon]

@thorny pond are you goin

for the mount

[thorny pond]

I may. I’ve been super busy this week and need to do 4 more

But I have the three toons ready

You?

[kind talon]

ye

only 3 done

4 more

including the assa one

working on it now tho

havent been using drums or pot tho

[thorny pond]

My biggest concern is the BM hunter one since BM is easily my worst spec

[kind talon]

and my trinkets are bum

which one is the bm

[thorny pond]

The worm

[kind talon]

frost mage one?

oh

the worm is easy as fuck

lol

dw about taht one

[thorny pond]

Yea but that’s my only spec I have for it lol

In legion I cleared the tower so I’m. not concerned and took good notes then

It’s just a time constraint for me

[gusty mirage]

tell these nerds to invite me to their +2 vaults @thorny pond

[thorny pond]

Dude I couldn’t get in any +2

Like bitch imma carry you

Let me in

[gusty mirage]

bruh this guy messaged me and said "lol sorry buddy"

like

why

[thorny pond]

Just message him back a picture of your wang and tell him it’s okay

[hollow river]

because they want the items you want

[gusty mirage]

yeah

but like

its a +2 bro

tf

[nimble tartan]

y u doin 2s bro

[outer cairn]

LOL they nerfed a trinket and enchant for MT

what a joke

[jaunty steeple]

don't see why fixing broken stuff is a bad thing

when they have announced that they will tune/nerf the actual encounters

[outer cairn]

i'm sure they'll fix it in before it ends. real sure

[hollow river]

if it were to stay in the game indefinitely instead of 2 weeks i'd say leave it as is and not nerf it

I WILL grind this shit non stop all weekend if i must

[gusty mirage]

whats the point of doing a +17 omar

for that nonexistent score?

[hollow river]

[nimble tartan]

15 bro

[hollow river]

did you do you tower oxi

[gusty mirage]

ye

[gusty mirage]

for what

[hollow river]

gamer

[gusty mirage]

why would I make it harder than needed

lol

I have 7k valor

I think I'm set bro

[nimble tartan]

thats it!!

bro u need more

[gusty mirage]

I just set 6k worth of valor shit to my pally

I'm gucci

[thorny pond]

Damn bro

M+ much

[kind talon]

damn rbo

[nimble tartan]

damn bro

[wild beacon]

worst blunder 2021. had jarl dead for the first time but i had blinded sig slightly too late (every other time had blinded before cast). lost my focus and broke the blind to try finish off but yep, got owned by the blood of the father aura

[fair ether]

is the WA helping that much ?

[strange python]

I ++'d 2 16s on vault

they were literally the only vault keys available

[gusty mirage]

yeah I'm not doing that

I don't care

[strange python]

would much rather have just run +2s as well lol

[nimble tartan]

the council will be hearing of this

[slow marsh]

I did a 17 on my first run

Def recommend just do the 2s

anything under 9 so you can just be in and out in like 15mins even if they dont know how to use the light

[heady rain]

gz on trinket @balmy condor 😛

[strange python]

it feels so hard to do even 15s idk

[balmy condor]

ty

[strange python]

doing like +22 on normal keys now with full bis is kinda just brain afk and press w

cant rly do that on legion +15s tho

[wild beacon]

56 attempt lucky. finally got it

[wild beacon]

i actually spoke to myself out loud and killed it lmao

[thorny pond]

damn man

broken cock is right more than once a day huh

gratz 🙂

[wild beacon]

cheers bro, and you should probably get that looked at

[outer cairn]

so i did watch Infexious do this and he did it by mostly keeping Sig in Blind and then if Jarl was acting a fool, he switched to Sig

and he kept up a lot of dmg

so i mean it is possible to do this without having to face tank all 3

[outer cairn]

wish i could get lucky

[wild beacon]

i kept her blinded until i was caught up with other mechanics

2 unbridled fury pots were 6% of dps, ravaged seed pod was 8%

[kind talon]

what is ravaged seed pod

[kindred rapids]

Is faulty countermeasure affected by haste?

[balmy condor]

yes because it procs on melee hits

more melee hits is better

same as fusio namp

[kindred rapids]

Ok, wasn't sure if it was limited by an ic or something

[zealous marsh]

i've just equipped ring from court

and my mutilate suddenly

says in tooltip ofc

that it hits for less

for about 85 dmg

by changing a ring i've dropped only 7 crit and gained 1 point of haste so how come (and ofc this additional effect and 6 less ilvl)

[kindred rapids]

I guess I was thinking of rppm procs, although those can also be affected by haste?

[outer cairn]

i think i'm just going to go that strat from now on honestly

[zealous marsh]

Soo; mutilate dmg is affected by agility right?

[drifting cloud]

stop overthinking tooltips

when theres a 100 different reasons it could be

it doesnt matter

[jaunty steeple]

tooltips are shit

[zealous marsh]

Hm

So you want to tell me that tooltips are there just to be there

[kind talon]

yes

they dont accurately reflect much

[balmy condor]

tooltips exist so people can read what it does

the damage number on them is super worthless

[zealous marsh]

I’ve just saw it by accident tbh

And it made me wonder

How it messed up must be

[wild beacon]

trinket from first boss in EN that drops a pool that dmgs mobs in it for 10s, and gives you some leech too. dunno if it's the best or anything i just grabbed it and it worked out alright

[arctic hare]

Welp

a edge of night just dropped

for me, but I went ahead and traded it to our outlaw rogue, since I already had one in my oh

[kind talon]

bro

when the little runes

spawn

and it gets small

i stg u cant hit it

its too small like my peepee bro

[severe sparrow]

yeah fuck that

i swear to god that's been at least 25% of my deaths. or sig just randomly instant casting her shit the second she gets out of blind

[wild beacon]

i worked out way too late thanks to someone in discord that that occurs when you blind after she finishes the cast, as she gains an aura

[severe sparrow]

oh shit. thanks.

[dim wasp]

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[prisma monolith]

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[kind talon]

im getting close

figured out how to deal with the hard overlap

[hollow river]

pog

wish i could be in tower rn

stuck in raid continuously wiping to sylvanas for yet another day

[thorny pond]

Take my viagra and power through it

[kind talon]

feels like

im

not doing enough dam

idk

[thorny pond]

Are you bleeding then all?

Keeping CT up?

[kind talon]

yes

of course

1k overall

at 550

wiped

didnt even kill jarl

[balmy condor]

1k is a bit too low

[thorny pond]

Make sure you are sitting jarl fresh before kiting or bladestorm

Slam vendetta

[kind talon]

i might have too little mastery

idk

[thorny pond]

I think a lot of people are just tossing vendetta up and not maximizing it, bleed your targets CT vendetta and go bam

I had literally 5 mastery

[kind talon]

ig

[thorny pond]

All crit vers

Cuz I’m dumb

Just aim for more bleeds uptime, lean into vendetta a lil bit and you got this

I believe in you

[kind talon]

im gonna try and gem mastery

[slow marsh]

for MT?

[kind talon]

ye

[slow marsh]

vers

[kind talon]

no lol

[slow marsh]

ye

[kind talon]

btw

lightless force

is very good

[thorn fjord]

QQ guys... would i still be able to pull off using MFD with around 16% haste?

[slow marsh]

yeah but you can sim and see it yourself

[balmy condor]

why would haste matter

[oak sky]

@kind talon you didnt do it yet?

Havent you been on the grind since i got off

[slow marsh]

@gusty mirage @balmy condor shinodh says that he's bad

[kind talon]

no i cant fucking do it

lol

[balmy condor]

he is

[drifting cloud]

garret1 garret2 garret3

[oak sky]

@kind talon ill do it later or tomorrow

:)

[kind talon]

like

i just need to play better

but im getting tilted as fuck

[gusty mirage]

tell him he'd be better if he remembered his interrupt button

[kind talon]

im going to lose my mind

i need cloak for a specific part and i keep getting unlucky

and have to use it early

and its just over

[marble hemlock]

What are you using cloak on

[severe sparrow]

i keep meaning to change my talents and forgetting till im already inside

[rugged spindle]

I am doing on level 53 rogue with no SnD and Shiv , going well nearly done

[kind talon]

the angels

[rugged spindle]

Borulas Sausage give 12 Agi and Lightning forge Augement Rune (1min CD) saveyou alot of gold

[marble hemlock]

Try socketing speed gem, you shouldn't need cloak for angels unless it's a really bad overlap. But that shouldn't happen every attempt, maybe 1 in 5

[loud silo]

for venthyr dashing frost whats my stat prio?

[kind talon]

its just the one where

i have to kite

while getting runes

and angel overlap

i just want cloak

so i can ignore a rune and a set of angels

after evasion wears out

cause he bladestorms after so i cant rlly kidney

[marble hemlock]

Don't think I've ever had that happen in that order

Jarl barely cast shit

Think he did like 2 enrages and 2 blade storms in 6 minutes

But yeah, managing the scarce utility CD resources is definitely the key to making it

[rugged spindle]

is this normal I killed Jarl and other 2 bosses enrages? time was 6:33

[balmy condor]

6:30 is the enrage

[versed mica]

I just don't know if I have the skill level to do this

I literally can't stop getting hit by axes and idk how to do better

I'm just throwing myself at a wall all day

[balmy condor]

its just practice

[severe sparrow]

i seem to have a better time dodging the axes while standing closer to him lol

[fathom flax]

I just did it in like 6:20, jarl died and I had to burn sigryn with the caster shield up

Reckon I got it with literally 2 seconds left on cast haha

first attempt I used fusion amp too and it only did 4K damage the whole fight, trash

[versed mica]

I honestly don't remember the axes doing this much damage back in legion, jesus fucking christ

[fathom flax]

Blind @steep linden1 and kidney @steep linden3 macros were awesome, and never yank them near an edge or you might get fucked on with movement

[spice spire]

Damn

A double ping

[fathom flax]

Sorry to that guy in particular haha

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/frostmourne/Orrockk

Officially pre nerf gamer

[spice spire]

[outer cairn]

welcome to how i feel

[balmy condor]

I didn't use the macros personally but I'm glad it helped someone

[spice spire]

Well yeah

You’re just cracked

[balmy condor]

a chip on my shoulder

[spice spire]

Literal mad at world

[fathom flax]

I didn’t see if you could stun the cast of his enrage

[kind talon]

oh

i should try that

[wild beacon]

how much leech have you got, i barely bothered with dodging them

[fathom flax]

But I just did stun -> evasion so you can avoid 16 seconds of it the 20

[versed mica]

just the 12% from leeching poison

time for an angry nap

[fathom flax]

I found it go a lot easier when I remembered the fight was based on cleave and rupture garrotting all 3 while rolling CT as much as possible was way more important than envenom

[versed mica]

That's what I do, still gotta envenom sometimes to keep snd up tho

[outer cairn]

is edge of night still good for this fight or should i just put another 252 in its place?

[wild beacon]

i have 2, they did like 3% of my dps

[balmy condor]

should use edge

[fathom flax]

Hellscream daggers 5head

[outer cairn]

i don't have any random legion gear or anything and not gonna farm it

[fathom flax]

Nah they’re super old rare ish boa’s you got from garrosh heroic that you can’t get anymore

[outer cairn]

i just want to get this shit done and over with. i've been doing it for days

[wild beacon]

getting legion trinkets got me over the line imo

[fathom flax]

Idk it probably took me 20 attempts over 2 sittings and I ended up tanking my damage using fusion amp anyway

Use CDs defensively not offensively

[clever kindle]

oh fuck

I forgot about the legion boa trinket

[outer cairn]

what boa trink? and yeah i don't think i have any old stuff

[kind talon]

did i do it

?

[outer cairn]

yes

[kind talon]

fuck me

[clever kindle]

idk if its good

[wild beacon]

grats decaf

[clever kindle]

10% demon damage tho

[outer cairn]

yeah i don't have any old gear

[kind talon]

look at that fucking

lightless damage bro

[cobalt pelican]

keep pulling till good rng

📉

[outer cairn]

its not even rng. im able to live through 6 mins im just not getting the dmg

[spice spire]

Sheesh king lightless putting in the twerk

[kind talon]

yeah bro that ting was popping off

[outer cairn]

are those enchants better than celestial and sinful>

[kind talon]

KT trinket maybe not so good

LOL

[kind talon]

probably

[fathom flax]

Honestly raid gear is fine man, SL sockets still work etc

[clever kindle]

when I actually get around to trying mage tower this weekend ill try this boa trinket

[kind talon]

double lightless is probably bis

for sin mage tower

[fathom flax]

If you’ve got eye/phial trinket you’ll be sweet

[outer cairn]

i have eye and salv

[fathom flax]

Are the mobs demons

[clever kindle]

why go eye if this works, 10% damage on demons is huge

yeah

[kind talon]

i ddidnt get an achievement for it

[spice spire]

Double

[fathom flax]

Idk yolo smash it

[clever kindle]

ill try it

[fathom flax]

When the RP finishes

[kind talon]

i mean

i didnt get an achieve

idk

is there one for each

[drifting cloud]

youre not gonna get achiev if you did any other rogue ones

theres only one achiev

[outer cairn]

i feell like shouldn't have to get old stuff and use old enchants to do this

[kind talon]

ok

[drifting cloud]

other than doing them all

[fathom flax]

One and a meta

[clever kindle]

its timewalking

[kind talon]

im going for the 7

that was my 4th

[wild beacon]

from my kill

[fathom flax]

You don’t, they help a tiny bit but aren’t required

[outer cairn]

well i apparently need help cause i can't meet the dmg threshold

[kind talon]

bro what the fuck is infested ground

[clever kindle]

figure legion timewalking comes back around before the end of expac

[kind talon]

jesus bro

thats

[wild beacon]

first boss EN

[kind talon]

a cracked trinket

10% LOL

[spice spire]

And 30 leech

[wild beacon]

took me like 10 minutes to get and carried me lmao

[outer cairn]

or they could just fix it and tune it like they should have

[kind talon]

brp

bro

the tank one is so ass

[misty holly]

Good for agatha?

[bronze spade]

does anyone have trouble with the mage tower appearance ? Just did the mage tower and still didn't get the ghostblade appearance ....

[tacit plover]

Stupid question,when do we drums on the Mage Tower?Cant seem to find it on the guide

[kindred rapids]

Whenever you want to

[clever kindle]

whenever feels right

[kindred rapids]

Don't let anyone tell you how to play

[misty holly]

Ive been druming early because less mechanics going off.

If you evasion the first rage cast, you can dps straight until runes spawn.

[outer cairn]

i fucking hate this

[fathom flax]

This is a meme right

[cosmic sandal]

I’m still proper struggling on this fight hey. I’m not sure if crippling poison is bugged or something but sometimes all 3 just decide to afk in the middle of the room and I lose out a bunch of damage while old mates spinning and valks are flying it

In

[bronze spade]

excuse me ?

[gusty mirage]

you can't get artifact appearances

[outer cairn]

no clue. can't break 1k. not with all 3 or just managing 2. seen it done both ways

shit needs fixed

blue hasn't posted a goddamn thing other then they evaluating

[sharp stump]

Doesn’t need fixing lmao

[rugged spindle]

are you using old flask? extra agi

[outer cairn]

yeah needs fixed

[sharp stump]

It’s fine as it is

[bronze spade]

oh..... shiet.... unfortunate, thank you very much for the response... so the only reward is just the transmog ?

[outer cairn]

nah

its broke

[gusty mirage]

yeppers, and a mount if you do every scenario

[sharp stump]

Challenging content being challenging? ;o

[gusty mirage]

and a feat of strength if you do it on every class and spec I think

[bronze spade]

haha, yeah..... not that interested into achievs, only looks and ghostblade does look cool :(... thanks a lot though !

[rugged spindle]

currently is fine just remove the enrage timer

[gusty mirage]

np happy hunting 🙂

[balmy condor]

I mean honestly you've been in here complaining about it for enough time to see plenty of other people clear it right? the gear is scaled, there is cheese gear for it that helps to a certain extent. At some point you just gotta look at yourself as the issue, and not the fight

[sharp stump]

📠

[outer cairn]

making it like it was yeah

[outer cairn]

k. well keeping all bleeds up and ct so idk

[sharp stump]

Are you getting good value out of vendetta and using consumables?

[outer cairn]

yep

[gusty mirage]

also leech doesn't work on absorb damage

[outer cairn]

idk what else to do. not buying cheese gear for something that i've cleared before argus gear. i can either facetank all 3 and do 900 or i can do 2 at a time and do 900

[sharp stump]

Idk man, if you reckon you’ve got all bleeds up and everything then you’re doing something else wrong otherwise or you’re not really maintaining decent bleed uptime

[balmy condor]

and there's people here that have done all 3 at almost 1400

the gear is the last 5% of the dps

not the last 45%

[drifting cloud]

hey its alot more than 5% if you pimp out

[balmy condor]

well yeh if you go full pump cheeser

[shell ivy]

that feeling when u didnt know the scenario ends at 20%

[outer cairn]

well good for them. i can't do it and its frustrating

[shell ivy]

and i was stuck on that last overlap without knowing i just needed to survive that one to pass 😭

[outer cairn]

been at it for 3 fucking days. tried different strats. keeping bleeds up and shit and idk how to break 1k at least.

[shell ivy]

do u use all consumables?

i've had 900 on my first couple of tries without using all of them

[rugged spindle]

use old gem use old flask use sauage that help you alot

[wild beacon]

you do know you've just said you don't want to do it though, buying or farming some old world gear/consumes

[outer cairn]

i have spectral flask, shadowcore oil and the damn rune thing

[shell ivy]

but it went at 1.1k when i started using unbridled + drums + runes

[cosmic sandal]

Yeah I don’t want it nerfed even though I’m struggling. It’s 100% killable, I’m just rubbish

[outer cairn]

what old flask?

[rugged spindle]

you want to use Greater flask of the current 31agi

[wild beacon]

currents

[outer cairn]

what about shadowcore oil

[rugged spindle]

Boralus Sauage 12agi food

[bronze spade]

I personally think it's not worth getting those unless you get to 10% ish at least on the axe guy, cause otherwise you are just throwing away gold and it's not going to 1 shot them.

[balmy condor]

stones are better than oil

[sharp stump]

Yeah that’s the thing. It’s 100% achievable but you just need to play well. The crutch old world stuff can help but it’s by no means necessary

[wild beacon]

yeah those sausages are 1k each on my server haha

[outer cairn]

yeah not buying all that shit unless i can get them to near death. even not doing 1k and only 900ish i'm not even gettign them down to like 50

[balmy condor]

that doesn't sound like enrage

[cosmic sandal]

What poison you guys running? I’m finding issues positioning the bosses if I’m running crippling

[shell ivy]

what are the other achievements u can get when u have completed one spec of ur class?

is there smth if u do all 3 specs

[drifting cloud]

no