assassination

[bleak sky]

being able to raid everyday + spamming content is huge

[marble hemlock]

willingness to sit on the bench an entire tier or two, if you dont perform or happen to play bad classes

[limber lion]

Is just not happening

[marble hemlock]

people underestimate the strain it puts on your ability to perform to play this much every day, especially when each individual mistake is hurting and could be the difference between losing the race

[bleak sky]

it's why these people take job vacations / don't work regular jobs

[limber lion]

On top of 3-4 raid days every week for months after prog as well

[marble hemlock]

more than that, actually

depends a bit on the rwf economy each tier

this tier was kinda tame

only 2 BoEs

[limber lion]

Yeh

[glass tulip]

do you know how much method spent in the race?

[marble hemlock]

but most guilds continue a 7day schedule once the content is over, most of which are hc boosting

[glass tulip]

I heard some esimates were north of 300mil

[limber lion]

Yeh sounds pretty close

[marble hemlock]

yeah, 200-300mil seems to be the average atm for most tiers

[glass tulip]

pain

[marble hemlock]

nya was more expensive due to corruptions being so massive

[gusty mirage]

Just remember how fucking expensive flasks, feasts, legendaries, enchants, etc are at the start of a tier

[marble hemlock]

but yeah

anyone saying they can totally raid and perform the same in a rwf guild, even after raiding in a 7day guild that raids 4hrs daily

dont know what theyre talking about

[gusty mirage]

200-300 mil seems kinda low considering boes were selling for like 600-700k at the start of the tier

[marble hemlock]

raiding 14+hrs is rough

[glass tulip]

to be clear I wasnt trying to imply that was how it works at all

[limber lion]

Boes and consumables are just a tiny portion of it as well right

[glass tulip]

compared to the old guard I am literally a brand new player since SL is my first expansion

[gusty mirage]

Raiding 6 hours a week makes me want to throw my computer out of the window

[marble hemlock]

you can see a drop in performance wiht most raiders after 2-3hours

[limber lion]

In SoD most rwf guilds were hosting community events and giving out millions of gold to people trading Sylv daggers, hunter bows and quivers

[marble hemlock]

ye

it was quite disgusting this tier, actually

literally a bidding war

[gusty mirage]

Ye I remember pieces and method were paying a ton for people to show up who COULD trade the dagger

[marble hemlock]

and pieces is the only guild that actually has the gold. all the others are borrowing

[gusty mirage]

And gave a bonus for those who did lol

[limber lion]

Yeh the entire rwf scene is extremely degenerate nowadays

[gusty mirage]

But I guess at that level you need whatever edge you can get (pun only kind of intended)

[slow marsh]

Still no edge for me btw

[limber lion]

Yrh, I also remember watching Rogerbrown's streams where they did like 5 full hunter runs on Sylv b2b and they only got like 2 bows out of those runs

[slow marsh]

Just gonna roll my vault as outlaw this week for fist since dag will never pop

[limber lion]

Not sure if they paid em or not though

But insane if they did

[gusty mirage]

I’m sure they did

[marble hemlock]

i mean, just imagine having to sit on the bench the entire time during prog cuz your class is shit, spending all that time watching the PoVs, participating in strategy sessions, spamming m+ on all your chars to get as good gear as you can possibly get, and once prog is over youre still required to do heroic boosts 7days a week 6-8hrs a day

[gusty mirage]

Tbh

[limber lion]

Good 10m gold per run

Down the drain

[gusty mirage]

The RWF guilds still rely heavily on the community

[limber lion]

This was one of my worst fears when joining Mfthod.

[gusty mirage]

It’d be bad for business to burn people

[primal egret]

Or you just dont loot the right dom gems :/

[marble hemlock]

yep

[primal egret]

Felt so bad for some of those guys

[limber lion]

Why do I grind 2 rogues and 2 alts only to warm up the bench

What's the point

[marble hemlock]

yep

[balmy condor]

The point is you’re method, and maybe next tier someone else is that guy

[limber lion]

Perfecto breaking down was completely justifiable, the whole thing sucked major dick

[balmy condor]

[marble hemlock]

you really have to become part of the collective, and thats difficult to do when you usually have a bit of an ego (not in a bad way) and are new to the guild while others have basically served 5+ tours already

[gusty mirage]

Idk I know personally the max I could do is one character and maybe 3 nights a week of hardcore raiding

Idk if I even have it in me to push WR for HoF tbh

Just time alone is asking a lot

Plus I don’t think I’ll ever reroll

[marble hemlock]

not just sit on the bench

but sit on the bench and having to do korthia on 5 different chars to maybe get a tiny edge

[limber lion]

HoF is definitely possible in 3 days

[gusty mirage]

Maybe

[marble hemlock]

just be better than us by like 1%

we missed hof cuz we had a 0.01% wipe on sylv

[limber lion]

Some people in the guild had spread out their characters on multiple accounts

[marble hemlock]

good times

yeah

thats the efficient way for sure

do it on 2-3 or 4 chars at once

means you gotta have 4 accounts though

[limber lion]

One Paladin in Method was literally doing Korthia on 3 accounts at once

And it looked so fucking painful

[marble hemlock]

mike was running 3 as well

[slow marsh]

That sounds not fun

[limber lion]

Like actually dreadful

[marble hemlock]

2boomies+hunter iirc

[gusty mirage]

I mean you’re essentially just doing it on one

And benefiting the other 2

At the same time

[bleak sky]

what a fucking degenerate

[slow marsh]

But 3 subs

[marble hemlock]

i mean

[bleak sky]

I guess that's what it takes

[limber lion]

Not only that but 3 accounts

3 games

[marble hemlock]

the sub gold/money is nothing

[bleak sky]

but god damn it SUCK

[marble hemlock]

lets be real

[limber lion]

Yeh

[marble hemlock]

making gold is piss easy

at that level, anyway

[gusty mirage]

Just by boosting your sub’s paid for for the year if you really wanted it to

[slow marsh]

Well yeah when you're in that position the gold is nbd

I had my first boost earlier tonight

[marble hemlock]

i have more gold than i know what to do with and im not even trying

[bleak sky]

ez 200k for 1h30 of work

[gusty mirage]

Like boosting heroic now you could easily make enough to pay for your sub for the year

[slow marsh]

It was every bit as toxic as I've heard people say it is

[marble hemlock]

wdym toxic?

[bleak sky]

i dont get it either

[primal egret]

Oh really? Who'd you run with?

[bleak sky]

raid boosting it's giga chill

[gusty mirage]

I’ve never had an issue with houkan

[slow marsh]

People are just toxic to each other idk

[gusty mirage]

Everyone’s chill af

[bleak sky]

who'd you boost with

goldcap is chill, huokan is chill

[slow marsh]

Maybe they know each other and are pretending to flame

Idk

[bleak sky]

maybe that

you run with the same people a lot

[primal egret]

Was it a guild sale or with a community?

[slow marsh]

Didn't seem like it tho

[gusty mirage]

Yeah you get a bit of banter from regulars

[bleak sky]

befriend them, friendly banter

ye

[gusty mirage]

Report it to management then

[marble hemlock]

Dont think ive ever had such an environment in a boost

[slow marsh]

I mean to be fair the guy who got the brunt of it had a massive ego for no reason so

[limber lion]

Even rwf guilds boost via a community

Community finds the customers

[gusty mirage]

Houkan’s been cracking down on people who are being toxic

[slow marsh]

The RL said he reported people for strikes

[gusty mirage]

Then ye

Problem is a lot of peeps want gold now to prep for 9.2 or whatever

And you get people with egos

[bleak sky]

you can report that guy ice

[gusty mirage]

Who think they’re hot shit cause they avg parse 90s in mythic

[bleak sky]

communities don't really want assholes in raid

[slow marsh]

Yeah but I mean it was fine other than wiping on sylv at 51% cuz a troll dispell

[gusty mirage]

Just need more rogues tbh

[slow marsh]

It was huakon

[gusty mirage]

Every rogue I ran with besides one was always cool af

[slow marsh]

Cuz we just sit there and do big dam to boss

[bleak sky]

yep

it's chill

do big dam, trade loot, ez 99s-100s

[slow marsh]

Meanwhile the boomies and locks have to measure cocks

[gusty mirage]

Stick to the Adois runs on Sundays tbh

He’s a good dude

[slow marsh]

What time is that one usually

[gusty mirage]

8pm est I believe

He never does aotcs after

You make like 100k less but who cares

[slow marsh]

Ah yeah mine was 8:30 est with aotc

And I was late to raid by 30mins

[bleak sky]

damn

late to boost?

[slow marsh]

Na

[bleak sky]

or main raid?

oh

[slow marsh]

Late to off night raid with trial guild

They were struggling to kill guardian and when I came we killed in 3 pulls or something idk. I felt bad though cuz I hate being late and esp when it's new people

Oh well. This week has been an eye opening experience for me I guess. Just need to get better and keep trying stuff to keep me on my toes

[hollow river]

The 10/10 guild you were in recently?

[slow marsh]

Yep

[gusty mirage]

Nah that other rogue was shook

[bleak sky]

this is technically a rank 1 parse right

[obtuse robin]

dam did my boy ice dirty

[hollow river]

Yeah I agree didn’t you say something about the other rogue running the incorrect talents?

[slow marsh]

They said "I got the sense you weren't super sold on our guild and would fit better in a more competitive environment"

[hollow river]

Did you say something to him + leadership?

[gusty mirage]

You don’t believe in blindside vigor?

[slow marsh]

Na I was chillin I was actually pretty quiet

[hollow river]

Yeah they’re 2 more casual in that aspect and you saying something about his talents maybe didn’t vibe with them?

Oh wow

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s your problem, too quiet

[obtuse robin]

or maybe they have got that vibe from trials b4 and they always leave

[hollow river]

Gotta try to fit in maybe

[balmy condor]

Should’ve went on a 15 minute bender about how the shadow cabal of simulationcraft is actually hiding the evidence of night fae sin rogue

[slow marsh]

Yeah that'd for sure do it

[hollow river]

Idk my guild isn’t even CE and we’ve kept some decent players

[glass tulip]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/91wB7JvcYMLmp6tP#fight=22&type=damage-done
Why is kindred affinity like this

[hollow river]

Issue isn’t people leaving for other guilds it’s people quitting the game atm

[gusty mirage]

Because you touch yourself as night

[slow marsh]

I can behave when it's necessary

[gusty mirage]

But also because otherwise no one would play kyrian druid

[obtuse robin]

ice tried to push theo on the other rogue and he got him yeeted i bet

[slow marsh]

Bro not even that

I just recommended he not go blindside vigor with doomblade frost set

[hollow river]

Oh

That might be part of it then

What’d he say

[obtuse robin]

was he part of leadership

[slow marsh]

I mean I didn't call him out about it or anything. I just mentioned it to him directly

[hollow river]

Actually can’t believe some guilds are CE and mine isn’t yet it’s kinda weird

[gusty mirage]

All it takes is one good pull man

[slow marsh]

But ye he's a core raider I guess and I think I just opened my fat mouth at the wrong times about stuff and maybe it just didn't sit too well with them idk

[toxic quail]

Kinda sussy NoTrickz

[frosty bridge]

Well the speed of you getting CE is more impacted by your worst players than your best players

[hollow river]

[obtuse robin]

from the vibe of that message hundo p

[toxic quail]

I believe bro.

I’m a believer.

[bleak sky]

ehhhh

I get that

it's probably for the best, king

[hollow river]

Just find another trial bro you’ll get it

[slow marsh]

No it for sure is

[hollow river]

You were already apping

[slow marsh]

Ye ik so I'm not like mad about it it's just kind of off-putting to me idk

[balmy condor]

Same

[gusty mirage]

Yeah like me, I suck

^ me

[hollow river]

Yeah it’d be off-putting to me too bro but you can obviously get into a better guild you know this

[obtuse robin]

same im trash

[toxic quail]

The other rogue in my guild just bounced cause IRL issues.

I’m solo again.

[gusty mirage]

You learn to make friends with the other melee brains

[slow marsh]

I'm gonna app to agreons guild just to see what he says even though the raid times don't work for me

[gusty mirage]

That’s weird

[slow marsh]

Well I'm weird

So

[hollow river]

I almost apped too his guild lol

Raid times are a bit rough for me too

[slow marsh]

I'm not trying to take his spot I just want a rogue buddy

That doesn't play blindside vigor

[hollow river]

They had 2 rogues before I think

[gusty mirage]

Then I’m not your guy

[balmy condor]

I’ve been alone for 3 expansions but if everyone keeps apping to my guild I feel like eventually my raid lead is forced to take one

[gusty mirage]

Sorry

[obtuse robin]

i still play ep / vigor

[gusty mirage]

Those two weeks with me were nothing huh?

God I still feel bad about that

It’s been like 6 months too

[hollow river]

What happened lol

[slow marsh]

Yo is wowprog the best place to go for recruitment tho or is something else more active

[oak sky]

brb just apped to <whispyr's guild>

[gusty mirage]

I was asked to help recruit. Got whispyr in. Then the raid called it quits lol

[hollow river]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yeah bro those two weeks dps racing on council after I didn’t mythic raid at all because people kept dying to shit and we were bored out of our minds

[slow marsh]

That's what I thought but wanted to make sure.

[bleak sky]

come to my guild, we're playing 3 rogues right now

[toxic quail]

I found my current CE guild on the forums.

[hollow river]

Oh I forgot about that

[gusty mirage]

We were so good together

Baby come back

[balmy condor]

Yeah we were, the synchronized shadowsteps to the third boss for the garrote in opener

[hollow river]

Finding a guild on wowprog is sorta hard to do on the site tho I feel

[slow marsh]

Oxi doesn't even want me I already tried

Sadge

[hollow river]

Gotta like scroll through the ranks or search on 1 server at a time

[gusty mirage]

??? I told you to apply

[slow marsh]

The site is dumb fr

[gusty mirage]

Just fucking apply

[toxic quail]

Come raid with me.

[oak sky]

[gusty mirage]

Then I can get benched and brought in on farm

Ez

[hollow river]

[slow marsh]

No you didn't actually

[toxic quail]

I got two daggers already. Ez trade to you.

[slow marsh]

[gusty mirage]

Ye I told you apply anyway

[bleak sky]

recruitment discord maybe

idk

[oak sky]

i would try to help

[bleak sky]

if I blade rush on painsmith's balls do I die or no

[oak sky]

but all my guild activity has been through nepotism

[bleak sky]

i know it's outlaw but

[gusty mirage]

Shiiiiiii this man leaking DMs

[slow marsh]

Yes

[bleak sky]

cringe

[gusty mirage]

I got guildies in this cord cuz

[hollow river]

Yes lol

[slow marsh]

Unless you're already in range

Then no

[gusty mirage]

Why you gotta out me like that?

[slow marsh]

But if you dash you die

[hollow river]

^

[slow marsh]

Stop lying bruh

[gusty mirage]

Okay I’m telling you now

Just apply

I’ll give you my RL’s discord info

Add him tell him I told you to apply

[slow marsh]

I'll pray about it

[hollow river]

Wut

[gusty mirage]

But I’m telling you it’s a shit show most of the time

[oak sky]

all 2 guilds ive been in dekai got me in

[hollow river]

O

[gusty mirage]

Where’s @gloomy knoll he can vouch

[slow marsh]

Pog nepotism. A true American

[oak sky]

i earned my spot after

of course

[hollow river]

He left both ya

[oak sky]

but it started out i was unqualified for the spot they were at

[hollow river]

How so?

Just skill? Or experience

[oak sky]

i mean i joined a 5/10 guild at 1/10

just experience

[slow marsh]

I feel like I'm in a weird spot when it comes to that right now

[balmy condor]

Just wanna say if any of clowns app to my guild I ain’t vouching shit you gotta speak for yourself

[hollow river]

I joined a CE guild at 4/10

[balmy condor]

[oak sky]

i got good between nathria and sanctum

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

They took a chance on me I suppose

[oak sky]

skill wasnt a big issue by the time i was in my current guild

[gusty mirage]

Have you seen my sylv parse? I need all the vouches I can get homie

[oak sky]

i would vouch for you oxi

[gusty mirage]

No you can’t see my nudes

[balmy condor]

Vouching is cringe

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

Those are reserved for @limber lion and @marble hemlock

[hollow river]

I mean if you’ve actually played with someone

Vouching is 👌

[balmy condor]

Yeh

I ain’t play with any of you

Except oxi

[gusty mirage]

And I suck

So

[balmy condor]

I play with his balls all the time

[oak sky]

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

Why does everyone have to raid three days in a row

[oak sky]

ive played with goodoption's warrior

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor my emotes are done

[hollow river]

Because that’s the best way

[oak sky]

live on stream

[hollow river]

Keeps everything fresh on the mind

[oak sky]

i played with vitalitas in a heroic pug once

[hollow river]

[slow marsh]

I guess

[hollow river]

I saw that stream

[balmy condor]

I’m buying more

[oak sky]

[hollow river]

Dekai floor POV

[balmy condor]

It’s not a problem I can stop any time

[hollow river]

Skipwar floor POV

[balmy condor]

[slow marsh]

Lmao

[oak sky]

yup

i was floor pov too

on sylv

[hollow river]

Not on kt

[slow marsh]

Imagine dying damn

[oak sky]

not on kt

[slow marsh]

My brothers need to press vial more

[oak sky]

it was on gromnaks stream

i forget why i fell off

[hollow river]

Bro everyone was dead on sylv lmfao

[oak sky]

but i fell off

[slow marsh]

O I done that

[balmy condor]

I did as well, we did tarragrue, kt, then we were stuck on sylv for 3 hours and she got gkicked or something idk @brazen zodiac probably remembers better

[oak sky]

lmao

[balmy condor]

Was a fucking disaster

[slow marsh]

Couple times early in heroic sylv I've jumped off with wailing arrow not realizing we were on last platform

[oak sky]

i did a couple pulls of painsmith in a pug with her

[hollow river]

Do whaaaat lmfao

[balmy condor]

She was like yeah bro just come sylv heroic we do it every week

[oak sky]

[balmy condor]

And it was a messsss

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

Assist tank kept inviting people or some shit

We went from 10 people to 30

[hollow river]

I’ve tried to get u to come to my guilds sylv for dagger man

Many times

[obtuse robin]

lmao yup

[oak sky]

i gave you a turnip once

whispyr

[hollow river]

We do clean runs 👌

[oak sky]

:3

[balmy condor]

Oh yeah black was there too

[balmy condor]

TRUE

[hollow river]

We don’t bother with heroic anymore though

It’s unfortunate

[oak sky]

i only do heroic for alts now

[balmy condor]

We don’t do heroic either

[bleak sky]

iceblades here's what you do

[oak sky]

even on mythic i only need 3 bosses

[bleak sky]

you join a bad guild

[balmy condor]

But I can’t be fucked trying to pug

[bleak sky]

get someone 10/10M to help them

[hollow river]

Same

[balmy condor]

I do need another dagger

[bleak sky]

play good

[balmy condor]

But like

[bleak sky]

and get that person to poach you

[obtuse robin]

vit is currently apping to top 100 guilds she flying to the moon

[bleak sky]

ezpz works 100% of the time

[balmy condor]

The pain of pugging heroic

[hollow river]

I only go heroic for boosts. But I should pug to get parses up :/

[balmy condor]

Fucking disaster

[oak sky]

getting poached

man

what a dream

[hollow river]

Happens a lot

[slow marsh]

I'd cream

[bleak sky]

ya

and I'm not even good

so you can do it king

[balmy condor]

Still waiting to get poached man

[hollow river]

I could probably get you into my guild ice

[balmy condor]

I’m just a fucking egg

[hollow river]

But idk if you want to get into a 9/10 anyway

[gusty mirage]

I’ll turn you over easy if you know what I mean

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

Yeah I’d let you scramble me and flip me into an omelette

[slow marsh]

Lol you were just talking about leaving for greener pastures don't act like I forgot

[hollow river]

Where

[bleak sky]

s-s-senpai

[hollow river]

Pics or it didn’t happen

[oak sky]

classi

c

[hollow river]

Nah was just offering anyway

[slow marsh]

My days of screenshotting messages are over I'm reformed

[balmy condor]

Boutta slap a !purge bajillion on this shi

[hollow river]

Lmfao

[balmy condor]

Too much sussing and sharing happenin

[slow marsh]

You are sussy

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

!purge none

im not ashamed of anything ive said

[slow marsh]

I was gonna say same

[hollow river]

You sure about that?

[slow marsh]

But

I am

[hollow river]

I seem to remember a certain deleted message

[oak sky]

uh oh

was it about

[balmy condor]

I ain’t scared to tell @gusty mirage to rearrange me like a dyslexic kid reciting the alphabet

[oak sky]

a talent in the third row

[balmy condor]

We going public on this

[oak sky]

sorry

[hollow river]

It was about assassination rogues

[balmy condor]

It’s official

[oak sky]

lvl 50 row

what would i have said

[solid venture]

[slow marsh]

H1dd3n b74d3$

[hollow river]

Assassination rogues are really cool

Fan of knives 👌

[oak sky]

[gusty mirage]

[oak sky]

oh shit what an emote

[balmy condor]

[slow marsh]

UwU

[hollow river]

How much are those

[gusty mirage]

new high def pfp too

[oak sky]

ooooh saucy

[balmy condor]

Oxi emotes inspired my to spend my next paycheck

[slow marsh]

Bro

[gusty mirage]

so gift another 10 subs

got it

[slow marsh]

Oxi emotes are so fire

[gusty mirage]

[oak sky]

oxi do you stream with facecam

[balmy condor]

No no no

[gusty mirage]

sometimes

[balmy condor]

No

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/money-dollars-cash-rich-shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif-3555042

[oak sky]

i figured maybe since your emotes are your face

[slow marsh]

I need oxi emotes but for like iceblades stuff

[oak sky]

nice with it

[bleak sky]

good god playing alts suck

blasting my brains off to do 3k dps

[slow marsh]

Love to see it

[gloomy knoll]

oxi carry is real

can confirm

[gusty mirage]

I got beat by the venthyr boomie in p3

LOOK AT MY SHAME

[gloomy knoll]

OOF

tis a tragedy

must roast the chicken for dinner

[gusty mirage]

but we hide that

[gloomy knoll]

[gusty mirage]

by showing all phases boss dam

[gloomy knoll]

#1

[gusty mirage]

where you at boomchicken?

[slow marsh]

Who was in fun with friends

Someone here was /is I thought

[hollow river]

Padding on chains and Colossus probs

[gusty mirage]

if you think we sent the venthyr boomie on colossus

you wildin

[hollow river]

We do

[gusty mirage]

we send our convoker

[hollow river]

A lot of guilds do

Venth boomchick can carry colossus hard

If they ain’t trollin

[gusty mirage]

y'all struggling to kill the colossus where you need a venthyr boomie to pop CDs?

big yikes

[gloomy knoll]

i been vendetaing colossus last few weeks

priest keeps giving me faeries

probably the worst spec in the game to get faeries on sylv since you don't actually get any extra vendettas but fuck it i'll take it for the pi

[hollow river]

We don’t have any other CDs being used there really

[gusty mirage]

Esra when are you poaching me so we can play together

[hollow river]

Save em all for boss iirc

[gusty mirage]

we can discuss our love for food

[gloomy knoll]

now if only i could get a kyrian druid

i'd love to if i had any clout in the guild and we didn't already have 2 rogues lol

[gusty mirage]

I suck but I provide some quality entertainment

I make up for it in soft skills

than actual skills

[gloomy knoll]

the guild does love content

[hollow river]

Thought we used on both boss burns with faeries

[gusty mirage]

lmao I'mma go through the vod and clip how dead I looked for the kill

[gloomy knoll]

nah i use on 1st platform and colossus

we do fast push

[hollow river]

O

[gusty mirage]

legit like 3 minutes straight

I was just like this

[bleak sky]

can one of you please tank a normal sod pug on alliance

thanks

appreciated

[gusty mirage]

[gloomy knoll]

LOL

[hollow river]

Lmfao

[gloomy knoll]

honestly we have a pretty weird sylv strat

[gusty mirage]

people were yelling in discord

and my only thought was "I'm fucking finally free"

[gloomy knoll]

fast push p1 lust platform 3 in p3

[bleak sky]

monkaS

lust p3 monkaS

[gloomy knoll]

LOL

[hollow river]

[gloomy knoll]

same man

[bleak sky]

is this Colour

[gloomy knoll]

nah we just do a sort of speed kill

cuz lots of pumpers

my first sylv kill everyone wasn't excited

i was like

WOOOOOOOOO FREEEEDOM

[gusty mirage]

after watching 9 fucking rives

285 times

I was free

[gloomy knoll]

never had a rive death thankfully

[shrewd night]

[gusty mirage]

I died like twice or three times

[gusty mirage]

[gloomy knoll]

watching people get hit by that shit on cd made me big sadge

that's not terrible

[gusty mirage]

my fav was when I was strafing through the rive after the animation passed

and I died

that was super cool

[gloomy knoll]

oh yea that's just bug from when it used to lag

[gusty mirage]

giant sword went by, you safe? nah fam

you not

[gloomy knoll]

i had 1 of those where i died like legit 4 seconds after rive passed

i don't count that tho cuz bug

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

bruh that shits whack

I don't fault anyone to die to that shit

like the sword is 80% down the platform

why am I dying to it

[gloomy knoll]

nah i've had it where

i moved out of rive

so i was in between the two swords in the safe zone right

and then the rives go across the whole platform

i dodge the swirls

and then just randomly die to rive

[hollow river]

Are you serious lmfao

[gloomy knoll]

legit 4-5 seconds after

lmao

[gusty mirage]

lmao ye I had that happen to me too

sick boss

up there with her randomly jumping off the platform

[gloomy knoll]

hasn't happened in months since they fixed the lag and i only had it happen twice ever

[bleak sky]

great fight

[gloomy knoll]

but man was that shit cringe

[hollow river]

I had one weird ass interaction too maybe that was what it was

I was closer to the edge, near where the animation started from

Safe

Watched em go by, then my character smapped backwards and died to it after it went by

[gloomy knoll]

lmao yea

some latency bullshit or game bug

[hollow river]

But I think that may have had more to do with the instance lagging?

[gloomy knoll]

we also had it where

[hollow river]

Rubber banding they call it iirc?

[gloomy knoll]

the swirls that went across the whole platform

wouldn't dissapear

[hollow river]

Bro

That still happens

Stg

[gloomy knoll]

so you'd get like all of the sets of swirls just chilling there

and you couldn't go near them or you'd just randomly die

[hollow river]

Also Sylvanas disappearing

[gloomy knoll]

several seconds later

[hollow river]

But she hasn’t disappeared on us in a couple weeks now

[gloomy knoll]

actual indie company kekw

[hollow river]

@gusty mirage can attest

He’s seen it

She’d go to do an arrow set or some shit

[gusty mirage]

bruh she did it twice the night of the kill

[hollow river]

And POOF BITCHES

[gusty mirage]

like

hello?

[oak sky]

shit ive never seen that bug

[gusty mirage]

[gloomy knoll]

modcheck on the boss

any1 seen her

she go to the store to get milk and cigs?

[hollow river]

She’d just leave to go to the corner store for cigarettes like dad did 15 years ago

[gusty mirage]

she did it too when we phased her

[gloomy knoll]

lmao

[gusty mirage]

and then ended up jumping into the middle of the platform

casually

from narnia

[gloomy knoll]

i love the bug tho

[gusty mirage]

or wherever she was hiding

[gloomy knoll]

where if you phase her at a certain time

you get like 5-6 seconds of uptime on the middle platform

to just refresh every bleed and slap her with an envenom

is pog

[hollow river]

After the veil?

[gusty mirage]

helped a buddy with a normal to get him a normal edge

and we did so much damage

that before her final burn phase in p2

[oak sky]

wait what

esra

what

[gusty mirage]

she ran all the way across the bridge

and then ran back

it was fucking hilarious

[gloomy knoll]

yea you gotta phase her like when the circles come out or some shit i can't remember

[bleak sky]

they fixed it

[hollow river]

?

[bleak sky]

or at least they said they fixed it

[hollow river]

U sure

[gloomy knoll]

gotta get them steps in

[gusty mirage]

this is more correct

[gloomy knoll]

i kinda wanna try

[gusty mirage]

lemme see if I can find it

[oak sky]

this

[gloomy knoll]

crimson tempest

[hollow river]

She does this a lot in our mythic prog

[gloomy knoll]

on sylv next kill

[hollow river]

Filthy padder

[gloomy knoll]

we do the fast push so

[bleak sky]

HMMM

[hollow river]

🤮

[bleak sky]

this sounds fun

[gloomy knoll]

we don't even get the big sentinal set

[bleak sky]

same, no pad allowed

[hollow river]

Then why CT

[gloomy knoll]

but i wanna see how much i can pad with it

i also go colossus

xD

[hollow river]

Go necro

[gloomy knoll]

hell nah

venth gang

[oak sky]

ct

🤮

[gloomy knoll]

i mean the only pad i'd get is

p1 and intermission and 1st platform left side

which doesn't seem like a lot

[bleak sky]

can't you ask to go right twice

it's giga farm for you

[gloomy knoll]

maybe i never have asked tbh

[hollow river]

Necro sin actually does pretty well

On most fights tbh

[gloomy knoll]

in intermission if i go to the set a hunter wild spirits

then it's sad boy hours

0 dps intermission

[hollow river]

For some reason I always end up on the same set and our bear tank and havoc dh

So I get a lil pad in

[gloomy knoll]

i always get fucked in p2 also

the homies just do too much dam so

i never get good vendettas off or get to pad on the platforms

[misty holly]

15 kills finally got heroic edge of night!

sims as a 34 dps upgrade 💪

[bleak sky]

gj king

[normal mist]

Let's go!

[limber lion]

Massive 34 dps

Grats!

[limber lion]

And on top of that you're thinking of using CT, which is already bad with slow push and proper p2 timers

[obsidian anvil]

yo guys

assa venthyr for raids?

havent played the last 3 months

[bleak sky]

yep

venthyr, dashing/obedience, frost set

go ham

[warm drift]

Hey, what's the best cd useage p2 sylvanas m if i only go right side? Just send on slyvanas on cd? Adds on plattform die quick.

And last platform p2 after veil i guess

[grim hornet]

i got told u use on both burns

second burn before veil so they align correctly on p3

but need confirmation on the second sentence as i didn't finish my progress on assa

[warm drift]

I'm always confused with the second burn.

[torn frost]

Do you use flagellation on cd or wait for it to line up with vendetta?

[alpine latch]

I play Sin for everything. I JUST got Pox Saturday, so I haven't even been able to run Outlaw for keys or anything

Even PvP as Sin

[strange python]

I have a pox collecting dust in my bank

[alpine latch]

I technically Sim higher with Outlaw than I do Sin

[strange python]

Do you change your stats and stuff? Or same gear?

[alpine latch]

Mostly same gear

Becauseit uses Frost too

[strange python]

I haven't even tried it honestly so

[alpine latch]

I just swap Obedience for Celerity

Which I have on a ring

And my cloak isn't great

[strange python]

NF gonna be sleeper soulbind in 9.2

I'm coming from behind boys

[alpine latch]

giggity

[strange python]

Take dom shard bonus out and for me it sims like 1.3% behind venth on patchwerk

Those openers though, as NF feel tasty - with doomblade.

[alpine latch]

It'll be interesting once we get a PTR to see what gets tweaked

Balance seemed pretty damn close this tier

[strange python]

yeah i agree - i really want that ptr to come out to watch some vids

balance seemed close this tier

Speaking of boomkins

[vestal wren]

balance this tier is close due to domination sets

[alpine latch]

Everyone I know who played Boomie this tier either quit the game or is considering it. They all fucking hate it.

[vestal wren]

basically slapping 30% dps on each class about equally means that a bigger dps diffrence suddenly becomes a lower one

[alpine latch]

And yeah, that's fine

[strange python]

I mean they're up there, but they're so iffy - they get a mechanic and mess up in that frenzy window, it's over for them.

[alpine latch]

At least it was somewhat close

[strange python]

Oh...and you guys were right. Guardian was a half-night deal

[alpine latch]

The only spec that was really far behind that I remember was Enh, and tbh they shouldn't be that high in damage if they are buffing 4 other people.

[strange python]

We don't even have an ENH! and i was top on guardian

[vestal wren]

gz

[strange python]

But people below me parse like a 90 - and I parse a 38 and still on top

It's cause there's too many good rogues out there or something

or the margins are just that small

thx

Our warrior does recruitment, so i think i have him talked into needing an enh lol

Watch them replace me

[vestal wren]

one thing about parses to keep in mind with 9.1.5 is that there are just a lot less parses

so esp. in mythic its harder now to get high parses

[alpine latch]

I was first on my Ner'zhul kill (I'm not in a Mythic guild so I only got like 3-4 pulls on it total with the kill) and I think I parsed a 32?

[strange python]

yeah - i mean as long as they're not stressing about me parsing green, i dont really care. Top DPS is top dps so

[alpine latch]

Parsing doesn't matter, IMO, as long as the boss dies.

[strange python]

yeah that's the other thing - like 3-4 people dead and wiping on guardian at 4% -- i mean dps isn't your issue

I don't even know how people die - well i do know when like people don't charge the thing right and the healer cooldowns don't line up. But we're kinda fortunate in the sense that we're pretty tanky.

"in need" for us is like boomkin (flex resto) - shaman (flex resto) -- and i mean I tried playing my druid...i just can't do it.

like i was set to gear him up - and i nearly fell asleep in the raid this weekend

[alpine latch]

Yeah, playing around a 3m cooldown seems awful

[strange python]

I think it's especially aweful at my ilvl of 230 with mostly pvp gear (from extra conquest) lol - when you're like middle of the pack. If I was shooting out to 40k in the opener and stayin gup there, passing people at the 3 minute mark, etc...I feel like it'd be more fun, but it's so much work to get there.

like watching our boomkin's dps - it looks fun as heck

[alpine latch]

Your entire playstyle is around a 3m CD

It's definitely not the spec for me

[strange python]

Yeah - I'll stick to rogue - and if i gotta travel the world alone, so be it

Not that i'd have to hah

just saying

I've always got my rogue to max level (every xpac since BC) but he was never my main so

I'm enjoying it

[gusty mirage]

People forget how many aura buffs this spec got from the start of shadowlands to 9.0.5

[vestal wren]

haha true

[spice spire]

• 51 aura BABY

We scale with buffs

[rotund oak]

hmm how is theotar/obedience for KT mythic?

does it work or...

i mean we get to flag both KT and remnant

[spice spire]

It’s probably the best combo to use for most fights

Obedience/theo/mfd is gaming rn

[rotund oak]

above dashing frost?

[spice spire]

Well you should always sim, but our bis profile does have obedience frost rn

With marked for death

[rotund oak]

ehh we keep EP or nah?

where are the numbers though

assafaq?

[spice spire]

Yeah

[rotund oak]

tyty

[cobalt pelican]

you can always get 1 in each phase but it gets a lil tight sometimes/comes up late for remnant

[spice spire]

You can also just sim it - ofc

[rotund oak]

its about 170dps less than nadja

but nadja doesnt behave ok

random euphoria procs

and thrillseeker

cmon

[spice spire]

That doesn’t seem right

Not saying it’s not

But in most of mine they sim extremely close

[rotund oak]

need something reliable for remnant and kt

[spice spire]

Even if nadjia is ahead

[rotund oak]

provided ye nadja is ahead

on the sims

means high uptime

[limber lion]

Wut

[rotund oak]

most likely wont be the case with euphoria procs

[limber lion]

Are you drunk

[rotund oak]

kinda

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

Thrill Seeker is literally consistent

It ALWAYS procs after 80s

Umbrella is rng

Thrill seeker is not

[rotund oak]

so,nadja?

u are the 100log chad here

spit it all out

😄

[limber lion]

Yes, if Nadja sims better you pick it

It's bad on Painsmith because TS tends to proc during intermission

Otherwise fine

[rotund oak]

im talking for KT mythic

specifically

oh kk

[brazen zodiac]

sounds like my path character

[spice spire]

Sounds like your wow character too

[brazen zodiac]

yeah except my wow character isnt gonna die to FUCKIN PIETY

[spice spire]

But we’re fine, dw

[brazen zodiac]

u die in the game u die for real

[spice spire]

I mean I’m already dead inside

What else they takin

[hollow river]

Just make sure you’re hitting the boss every 80 seconds

[rotund oak]

im going through some logs of ours to allign my cds on each phase

timings specifically

see if i can ''fit'' flags and where exactly

[brazen zodiac]

ur gear

u die with gear in hardcore it gets sent to softcore never to be seen in hardcore again

at least that specific piece of gear

u die wiht something that only 2 exist and ur fucked

thats wht happened to my bf lul

[valid spoke]

is pooling for envenom a big gain or is it minor stuff

[hollow river]

Kinda minor

Maybe 50-100 dps max, give or take

Usually less

[gloomy knoll]

Yea I looked at logs and scrapped that idea it’s awful lol

@limber lion

[thorny pond]

Morning kids

[spice spire]

GM mister beach

[thorny pond]

How are ya now?

[gusty mirage]

[nocturne geode]

morning Parental figure

[junior rampart]

Isn't it 40secs now? Last time I saw on my shaman it showed 40 seconds to proc thrill seeker.

[kind talon]

That’s a nice emote wow

[thorny pond]

You a suburban dad now who shops at Eddie Bower, drives a Subaru Outback, drinks organic coffee, and prefers farm to table pop up eateries?

[limber lion]

Definitely 80s.

[hollow river]

[limber lion]

40 stacks, one stack every 2s.

[wary ice]

isnt nadjia bugged?

[thorny pond]

negative

2nd pin

[hollow river]

Nope

Fixed

[wary ice]

pog

oh that was fixed a month ago lmao

[drifting cloud]

nah it started a month ago, was bugged for first 2 weeks of patch

[nocturne geode]

[rotund oak]

bonespike might be rly good KT

doomblade gamer

[thorny pond]

It can be okay. Tank adds die pretty quick in my opinion. I guess if you're up top for intermission it has a little extra value

[rotund oak]

im going phylactery

[kind talon]

Necro is not better than venthyr on any fight in the raid rn

[thorny pond]

Venth is the play then imo. Better CD downstairs with flag

Yea Decaf you right, but it can be closer on some fights lol

[kind talon]

Tru

[rotund oak]

Im thinking obedience for quite a while now but it sims lower

[thorny pond]

Obe and Dashing are usually pretty close

but you can use dashing when you meme necro

[kind talon]

I don’t like obedience for most fights

[thorny pond]

As sin? Negative. Feels bad man

[kind talon]

Yeah

As sin

[thorny pond]

Already slow from MFD then I lose my energy crit ticks

pass

[kind talon]

And also

Holding vendetta for flag

Is so cringe

[thorny pond]

Lot of the time it works out anyways and you just hold the flag since you aren't losing the cast

Some fights

[kind talon]

Yeah

[rotund oak]

we will most likely kill KT tonight or on reset day,we are close,i just need to find somehting that fits better both on remnant and KT

[thorny pond]

Not with Obe though\

[thorny pond]

Venthyr

[rotund oak]

yes venthyr most likely

[thorny pond]

I mean it's not "most likely" it just is

Kyrian is dog 💩 for sin, NF is wut, and necro just doesn't cut it

[rotund oak]

true it was a matter of speech

kyrian dashing frost was rly close on sims though

its

174dps less for me

[kind talon]

That’s a lot lol

[rotund oak]

118dps less is heirmir

nadja is 1st,about 70dps mroe than theotar

[thorny pond]

Theo better w/ crit tea but I digress

[rotund oak]

lul rly?

[spice spire]

Heirmir still best with Doomblade until higher ilvl

[thorny pond]

Also, if you filter US/EU, top damage to bosses, 97/100 are venth, 3 are necro and they got super fed with externals

[rotund oak]

yeah,checked alot of logs

[spice spire]

Yeah who does that?

[thorny pond]

Does what? Get fed?

My ret pally who begs for PI and the boomkin for first sylv chains

[rotund oak]

rank 1 has 15 buffs casted on him

lmao

[thorny pond]

I mean yea, that's the parse meta now

[spice spire]

Yeah

[thorny pond]

Even my KT parse log I got a PI

[rotund oak]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/28#boss=2422&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination

[thorny pond]

and our ele was out

[rotund oak]

[gusty mirage]

[thorny pond]

KA is huge

yet I can't convince one druid to go Kyrian

I've offered money

BTC

"favors"

[gusty mirage]

Favors huh

Looks like I’m going alliance boys

[spice spire]

Too bad u suck at non-rogue

Guess it doesn’t matter if it’s just KA bait

[gusty mirage]

You wish

I suck AT rogue too

[thorny pond]

Boxi is the bear

It's okay. I had to RL last night and didn't set up my BW or WAs, glad I was sin but hell my parses were bad

[kind talon]

[spice spire]

raid leading in melee is not very fun; I know the pain!

Luckily our monk healer (gm) is a sick raid lead

So I only have to do it every once in a while

[thorny pond]

It's fine, I spent most of the tier being a toxic non-mechanics do-er

so I can pay my dues

Got a fat FS and KT log last week and have to enjoy rogue now before it's dog next patch

[thorny pond]

I'll give you favors anytime you want. We might have a rogue spot if they let me heal tho!

[gusty mirage]

I can’t replace you though

[spice spire]

Raiding with beach

[gusty mirage]

[drifting cloud]

do you really wanna raid with a nf rogue tho

[thorny pond]

You def could. I have been phoning it in a bit, super tired lately and the tier set announcement kinda has me lowkey depressed

[drifting cloud]

[spice spire]

True ryler

[thorny pond]

NF rogue will be meta next tier but won't matter bc we'll be bottom third DPS regardless

[spice spire]

This is a very good point

[thorny pond]

Gonna love seeing all the fotm pigs come in, get hooked, jebaited then get stuck on rogue for prog

[spice spire]

You’re on Cev level hopium for NF

[thorny pond]

Nah

I like the sound of it but it needs work

It definitely is more interesting to TO/DW than Doomblade/Obe

[rotund oak]

fairies lmao

nuke them from orbit

[thorny pond]

I don't care. Tmog it away and never hit soulshape

nobody will know

[rotund oak]

got 3 convenants maxed out

ill never ever

and for any reason play NF

ever

[thorny pond]

What if it's 10% ahead?

[rotund oak]

hate them

dont care

[thorny pond]

You can be #BenchedPatrol then. Take my title

[rotund oak]

[gusty mirage]

If fae becomes the go to all of us will be benched patrol

[thorny pond]

meh

I just want to see boomkins go down with us

[spice spire]

Nah

[thorny pond]

if that happens I am happy

[spice spire]

I’d go NF

It’s a fine covenant

[drifting cloud]

yeah lol its whatever im just not gonna choose to do 5% less dmg

[thorny pond]

Did everyone forget we were NF for the first month of SL?

[spice spire]

First month?

[rotund oak]

lul never was

[drifting cloud]

first month? it was until 9.0.5 😛

[spice spire]

It was like the first 4-5 lol

Yeah

[rotund oak]

necroboy and kyrian forever

[thorny pond]

I went kyrian outlaw when my sin got benched by a guild that now hasn't killed Nerzhul yet\

[drifting cloud]

just because the guild is bad doesnt mean you playing sin wasnt equally as bad 😄

[rotund oak]

kyrian outlaw is for gigachads only

[thorny pond]

I was still like top DPS

[rotund oak]

[thorny pond]

I'm a kyrian sub main now but dabble in sin venth because I like to watch tv during reclears

[limber lion]

[rotund oak]

im watching netflix when i sin,even on progress

its waaay too slow compared to outlaw

[thorny pond]

First of all #outlaw is that way ->

[rotund oak]

yes but KT mythic score-a-kill is this way

so ill park here till its dead

[thorny pond]

What? There are like 2 outlaws in top 100, it's all sub sin lol

[kind talon]

?

[rotund oak]

sub is pretty huge,our tanks are questionable

i dont wanna cry on eveyr dance

f that

[limber lion]

Respectfully disagree.

[thorny pond]

just stand on boss and phalactery

[kind talon]

which fights do u think

[drifting cloud]

painsmith, soulrender maybe?