assassination

[gusty mirage]

Upgrade your Walmart internet bruh

[kind talon]

he said it first....

old man

https://tenor.com/view/club-penguin-dance-club-penguin-gif-22930200

[spice spire]

Hospital net borked king

Sorry

[gusty mirage]

Same opener, except after vanish you mut > env > mfd > env

Then on CD

[small basin]

cool

nice

gonna try it out

[gusty mirage]

Then you’d only hold if flag is about to come off CD within 12s iirc

Or maybe it was 15s

But you can still toss it on CD after the vanish window

[small basin]

would you play it in m+ with venthyr

or nah

[gusty mirage]

I’ve played around with it as venthyr in m+ seems about the same overall damage as vigor tbh

So I’d chalk it up to preference

I’m sure it’s better if you play obedience in m+

[fallen arch]

On my screen Oxi won

[pure moth]

Same

[spice spire]

My reality is the only real one

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

[spice spire]

Nah it’s slow net here -

[fallen arch]

No

[gusty mirage]

Everyone point and laugh at the guy with poopie internet

[spice spire]

Silence renown grinder

[gusty mirage]

Don’t bully Oz

[fallen arch]

Guilty

It’s something to do right

[gusty mirage]

Let em enjoy the game

Dudes a gamer

[fallen arch]

Might do kyrian after

[spice spire]

You were saying, oxi?

[fallen arch]

Since alliance is pretty ded on eu

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

kyrian assa

[spice spire]

I draw the line on Kyrian sin

[gusty mirage]

I’ll kyrian that ass

[kind talon]

gonna steal my r1 kyrian assa bro?

wtf bro

[fallen arch]

All my friends left the game

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

👍

[spice spire]

Bro it’s about that r1 nf 245-247 ilvl sin rogue

Seethe more

[gusty mirage]

How’s George doing

[spice spire]

He’s doing great, went to camp Monday and he’s going Thursday and Friday

So he’s going to be a happy puppy

[kind talon]

imagine not being rank 1 overall

ilvl parse btw

[spice spire]

True actually :/

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Covenant ilvl parse 😤

Only parse that matters

#4800 ilvl covenant parse god!!

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

true

[strange python]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cnjSmRNW77ufHAfEpw8fPS huge lets go

[slow marsh]

fake news

nadjia

[strange python]

wait I swapped

just didn't change the simc

woops

[keen mantle]

Can i find the best in slot gear simulations somewhere?

[kind talon]

wtf @spice spire

my ranking disappeared

[spice spire]

[slow marsh]

in faq

[kind talon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/28#class=Rogue&spec=Assassination&covenant=1&difficulty=4&partition=1&boss=-1

where did it go

[gusty mirage]

Let the haters hate

[kind talon]

[strange python]

do I rly wanna jump onto assa in my first raid with new guild

[fallen arch]

Yes

U do

It slaps

Swap necro first tho

[spice spire]

Did you server xfer or something?

[fallen arch]

The gamer cov

[strange python]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5PT8f6DXwhH86irQGywi68 even bigger than nadija

[spice spire]

@strange python if you’re comfy on it go for it king

[strange python]

my necro renown is like 60 fuck necro

[kind talon]

@gusty mirage @spice spire throwback to the time my internet dced on pull on heroic sylv and i reconnected in p2 but still wasnt bottom dps

[spice spire]

Tell them you’re a multi spec rogue freakazoid

[small basin]

man i love mfd as assa

feels so good

[strange python]

idk if im comfy I haven't played it since last tier so perhaps next week or on 2nd raid

[spice spire]

I dc’d mid June and was still top dam on Monday

[spice spire]

Yeah do it on a later raid then

Comfy raid first raid

[kind talon]

wdym

[spice spire]

Nine

Not June

[kind talon]

haha

[spice spire]

Phone is being fucky rn

[kind talon]

L

[gusty mirage]

Nah nah he meant mid June

Guys been hard stuck necro this entire time

[alpine latch]

You could always try to git gud

[kind talon]

wat

[spice spire]

Bro Necrolord is broken

[gusty mirage]

I can confirm without a doubt that Poyboi is indeed a gamer

[spice spire]

Just get like

All the externals

And you’re gaming

[kind talon]

currently gaming

🧑‍💻

[gusty mirage]

Him and I hard carried a mage to their first portal

[kind talon]

[alpine latch]

I'm bringing it back. 'git gud' and 'l2p' needs a comeback and I'm here for it.

[gusty mirage]

Guy gaped the mage by like 3k dps and got like 2.5 procs the entire dungeon

[spice spire]

On a scale of 1/10 how hard are you gaming?

[spice spire]

Bro?

He gaping?

[kind talon]

what is l2p

[gusty mirage]

Ye he gaped em

[spice spire]

Learn to play

[kind talon]

bro

[spice spire]

Holy moly

[kind talon]

i gaped the mage

[spice spire]

That’s lewd

[kind talon]

l2p

[gusty mirage]

Gapped doesn’t do it justice

[spice spire]

Oh my

[alpine latch]

l2p = learn to play. Both are things that Ghostcrawler routinely told people on the forums.

[kind talon]

@alpine latch l2p noob git gud

[gusty mirage]

Ye

[alpine latch]

no no no

'git gud'

[gusty mirage]

Guy thanked us for the carry after

[kind talon]

fixed

[gusty mirage]

Did 1.5k more than our vdh

[spice spire]

Could have been me oxi :/

[alpine latch]

Ayyy, now you got it!

[kind talon]

@gusty mirage always down for more

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

[spice spire]

Could have carried me harder :/

[gusty mirage]

I’m always down to clown

[spice spire]

Ready to 120% trash top again!!!

[kind talon]

W

[gusty mirage]

There’s only enough room for one assa rogue in my tops

[spice spire]

Yeah

Cuz ur sub

[gusty mirage]

If you think I play top as sub

You’re actually high

[spice spire]

You’re right, you’re an outlul main there

[gusty mirage]

You time a 21 top yet?

Talkin shit

[spice spire]

No

Tyran weeks are doomed for my group

I have to omegapump

[alpine latch]

DAMN son ... The amount of disrepsect

[small basin]

i made obediance today and tried it with sub in a dos 19

that shit pumps so hard st

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

3 shots at top all failed ports

[gusty mirage]

Cuz you won’t run with me

[spice spire]

Haven’t been running keys past few weeks due to swaps

[gusty mirage]

Whispyr and I times TF out of a 21 top w/ Jez tanking

[spice spire]

Jez a gamer tho

Even tho she Ka’d the sub

[gusty mirage]

Ye tethered the sub rogue instead of the sin rogue

Actually hates me

[kind talon]

AHAHAHHAA

[subtle gyro]

i have yet to try it. Is it really that good?

[kind talon]

only once

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

it fun

[subtle gyro]

used during Flag i assume?

[small basin]

i mainly pvp so i'm use to using it

but mfd feels really smooth with assa

imo

[gusty mirage]

Ideally in ST, in aoe doesn’t really matter because it’s easier to put up stacks in aoe

[subtle gyro]

i think ill try it tonight for raid

[small basin]

and you can do the giga burst of vanish double envenom

[limber lion]

Just use Deathly Shadows and do Env - Vanish - Env - MfD - Env

[subtle gyro]

higher haste stacks then?

[limber lion]

Sure, but you won't feel the difference either way

[gusty mirage]

But the extra 2-3 auto attacks

[slow marsh]

kek deathly is actually almost usable for outlaw

[kind talon]

actually

great idea ceverion

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

wow this guy is pretty smart and pretty good i wonder if hes in a good guild

[gusty mirage]

Nah he sucks

[spice spire]

Heard he’s a casual these days.

Washed even

[alpine latch]

Y'all woke up today and chose violence... I'm good with it.

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion actually a casual Andy

[limber lion]

what is this target ban against me

i cri

[gusty mirage]

We’re hoping to bring you back via bullying

[kind talon]

@limber lion rise and grind

[spice spire]

[kind talon]

get your grind set up

[alpine latch]

@limber lion They're angsty because they're hardstuck on Painsmith. Don't let them get you down ❤️

[gusty mirage]

It’s not the smartest idea

[kind talon]

@gusty mirage CE check?

[alpine latch]

roflmao

[gusty mirage]

Nah fam I’m hardstuck sylv

[spice spire]

No matter how casual Cev gets I feel he’d still rogue Circles around me

Some people built diff

[gusty mirage]

To be fair so would wowgrandma

[gusty mirage]

No

[limber lion]

They'll announce/tease the 9.2 patch tomorrow

[kind talon]

[limber lion]

so let's see if it's good enough to bring this casual andy back or not

[spice spire]

Eye log check

[gusty mirage]

They already teased it on twitter me thinks

[kind talon]

can i tease u

[limber lion]

Yeh, but they could tease it more with a proper video

[gusty mirage]

Sorry haven’t been fed PI and KA

[limber lion]

or actually announce it with all the features/dates

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[kind talon]

are u still in method if u come back

[spice spire]

7 minute kill though

[limber lion]

I mean, I'm a social in Method

[kind talon]

lmao fucksing noob lolbad

[limber lion]

If that counts

[kind talon]

like who would u raid with

9.2

[limber lion]

No one

I don't have time to raid my guy

[kind talon]

we mis u

[limber lion]

If I came back, that would mean casual m+ and casual raiding

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

There you go

[spice spire]

Damn

[kind talon]

im just teasin g you you said its ok

[limber lion]

[spice spire]

Beat 1/3

[gusty mirage]

That’s my parse for the eye and the nine

[spice spire]

Nine I got got though

[kind talon]

@gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

Hi

[kind talon]

screencap my sub parses and share them please

for the boys

[limber lion]

Not sure if I wanna pug heroic/normal in 9.2

[spice spire]

Reminder, cloak after getting bleeds up so you don’t get sharded

[limber lion]

I'll only ruin my cute logs doing that

[gusty mirage]

Tbh don’t blame you

[limber lion]

gonna be a blue andy when I come back

[gusty mirage]

Painsmith check?

[kind talon]

wouldnt u be able to do method splits?

[limber lion]

Probably

[kind talon]

quickly nab some 99s

[spice spire]

Can’t beat it

[kind talon]

or 100s

and have those show permanenelty

[spice spire]

Legit if I even get a hundo

[limber lion]

My gear is shit

I still don't have ultimate bis gear

so it's bad

[spice spire]

Lost the mental there

[gusty mirage]

Nah nah

If 220 daggers didn’t hold you back

[limber lion]

still missing 259 off hand, 252 arachnid ring and 252 phial

[gusty mirage]

Non bis won’t either

[limber lion]

and 259 shoulders

sadge.

[spice spire]

Bro I’m deadass still 247

[limber lion]

trueee

[kindred rapids]

Oof

[limber lion]

I'll just snatch a dagger or two from the AH

[spice spire]

And you’ve been gone for like a month and a half

[limber lion]

r1 ilvl parses could be my new thing

[limber lion]

yeaaaaaaaah well

I've also killed Sylvanas like 10 times or something

so it doesn't count

[gusty mirage]

My man’s journey to top 5 in the world started with 220 daggers

Never forget

[limber lion]

I never got the 233 daggers

[spice spire]

I remember the last day of 9.0 Cev FIENDING for heroic number one overall

[limber lion]

Sire was a bully

[spice spire]

He got it though so huge W

[vast forum]

any gamers here can tell me which soulbind to use for necro assa m+? 😄

[limber lion]

hell yeah, good times

[spice spire]

Marileth is best

[gusty mirage]

Heimir

[limber lion]

Heirmir or Marileth

[gusty mirage]

Or Marileth

Sick autocorrect

[kindred rapids]

I have 252 phial and arachnid now, no excuse not to get 99s

[gusty mirage]

Mariel

[vast forum]

soo

[limber lion]

True.

[kind talon]

assa or all classes

[vast forum]

marileth then? 😄

[limber lion]

Sim it.

They're both really good options

[spice spire]

Oxi let the professional NL solve this one

[limber lion]

Marileth is obviously better for Sylv

[vast forum]

cba, just going into a dungeon quickly to practice necro assa for theater 😄

[spice spire]

Yeah they’re both good options

[limber lion]

Because you don't benefit from Heirmir's execute

[spice spire]

Marileth then

[subtle tundra]

i had to choose between phial and 2nd eon last week 😦

[limber lion]

Yeah just go Marileth for m+

[limber lion]

And you chose Phial

surely.

[spice spire]

Triple potency + Kevin is good

[subtle tundra]

ye

[limber lion]

good man.

[vast forum]

which conduits?

lethal, wps and?

[limber lion]

sf

[vast forum]

katar sounds shit for theater

[spice spire]

Sudden fractures

[vast forum]

my SF is 200 ilvl 🤮

[limber lion]

puke

[odd heath]

It took me 11 sylv kills to get 2 eons, first one was from vault lol

[spice spire]

Still

[vast forum]

guess i'll use it anyway

[limber lion]

yes sir

[strange python]

bloodmallet says Heimir for ST Marileth for cleave

[spice spire]

PK garbage and MM also garbage for M+

[subtle tundra]

katar isnt that good for necro

[kind talon]

katar is insane

[strange python]

I always went heimir, but deffo see why mari is good

[kind talon]

so much damage

feels so good

😋

[strange python]

katar is amazing wdym lol

[limber lion]

Marileth was fun when it was still bugged :)

[subtle tundra]

for venthyr its really good, but it loses value as necro 🙂

[spice spire]

It loses value because you use some casts to build with sbs?

[kindred rapids]

So sylv P1. I'm syncing 2nd flag with vendetta, waiting for after veil. But it seems if I'm targeted for arrow I'm just screwed.

[subtle tundra]

sbs = less fok

[alpine latch]

@versed briar You'll be happy to know since the log review last week I bumped my overall parse up like 5% and I set 3 item level records in heroic.

[limber lion]

Who's Cevatron

[alpine latch]

errr

I don't know

[limber lion]

But great job!

[alpine latch]

I type cev and that's what happened, lol

[spice spire]

Yeah - still better for big aoe dungeons - but sure minmaxing

[alpine latch]

He's going to wake up like "who the fuck is Palmer"

[limber lion]

I think he's been tagged a few times honestly

No worries

[alpine latch]

Probably

[subtle tundra]

also if youre playing necro this week ya trollin'

[spice spire]

Oh buddy I’m always trollin

[oak sky]

[strange python]

I am new to venthyr.....Nadija for this week right?

[subtle tundra]

theo

[strange python]

THEAo

kekw

[subtle tundra]

with nadja bugged theotar everywhere

[hollow river]

You can no longer hide the truth. We all knew you were a robot.

[limber lion]

[strange python]

LS LP WPS

[spice spire]

Looks good

[kindred rapids]

Most logs are still nadjia. It's almost like these people aren't hanging out in this channel.

[spice spire]

Unless it’s an omegadungeon that you’re going to fok a shit ton of targets

[hollow river]

No ordinary human being can play their instrument for 11 hours

[limber lion]

I mean Nadja is probably completely fine

[subtle tundra]

imma play ls/wasteland/lp 🙂

[limber lion]

buuuuuuuut

[limber lion]

in raid?

[fallen arch]

I don’t think so

[subtle tundra]

m+

[limber lion]

thought so

[kind talon]

[limber lion]

wasteland is a waste in raid

dank in m+

[alpine latch]

I wish I knew that Nadjia was bugged before raid last night

[subtle tundra]

its like a compromise between aoe and st

[limber lion]

I honestly don't think it would have changed much/anything

[odd heath]

I played theo in this week's clear and it was good, improved log on painsmith and nerzhul, rest was even

[hollow river]

Tbh I’m still using Nadjia on Sylvanas prog

Still doing the same dam

[strange python]

So Theo M+ too this week?

[subtle tundra]

my dmg on sylvanas has been only going down since first kill

lol

[strange python]

kekw

[subtle tundra]

always

[hollow river]

[strange python]

You dont care enough anymore since 1st kill

[limber lion]

I only started caring more

[subtle tundra]

i do care about my dmg, but sylvanas the type of fight where the more dmg the raid has the less you can dps

[odd heath]

My st dmg on sylv is increasing, but dmg on adds is lowering :( our comp is heavy on aoe/cleave

[prime zealot]

with shard of tel being broken atm, is unholy set currently better?

[limber lion]

No

[odd heath]

I can't build dmg fast enough in p2 lol

[subtle tundra]

only place i can fully dps all the time is p3 so everywhere else my dmg has been going down

[limber lion]

The defensive part is bugged

The dps portion of the entire set still works fine

[odd heath]

I feel ya, same issue here

[prime zealot]

but the dps should be lower because of less absorbs or am i mistaken?

[slow marsh]

^ it still does mega damage, the defensive part was just cherry on top

[limber lion]

Just get a r1 from your first kill.

[hollow river]

Nope

[limber lion]

The fact is

that frost is so much ahead of unholy

that nothing will really top it

[fallen arch]

Cev retired, still schooling al of us

Pog

[slow marsh]

Cev daddy

[fallen arch]

Even on stuff that happened after retirement

[hollow river]

How would the absorbs give you more damage?...

[slow marsh]

The real reason he retired was cuz he's getting ripped for shirtless streams in 9.2

[prime zealot]

my understanding was the more absorbs the more dmg the set deals

[hollow river]

Nah

More crits

[spice spire]

No, it does more damage with crits

[limber lion]

Well

I mean

You're both right

You gain damage from healing as well

if it crits

[fallen arch]

The thing about u getting ripped for stream?

[limber lion]

However, Frostrime does not have a crit component

[hollow river]

[limber lion]

Meaning that it does not affect your winds damage whatsoever

[spice spire]

I was going to say, I didn’t think rime crit at all

Because I know frost actually kinda GIGA for MW monks because of the crit healing

And if rime crit on top

[slow marsh]

also why if you aren't using empowered vial conduit and smashing on cd then you're doing it wrong

[kind talon]

dang im doing it wrong

[slow marsh]

as long as it'll actually heal you that is

[kindred rapids]

Got a 100 ilvl parse on remnant without realizing nadjia was bugged

[limber lion]

poggers

[kindred rapids]

I imagine everyone else was in the same boat though

[limber lion]

ilvl parses are also the worst metric to use

but still pretty poggers

[prime zealot]

they broke nadja?

[limber lion]

[kindred rapids]

Trying to get a good overall parse day 1 of 9.1.5 felt impossible

Takes a while for the bad parses to trickle in

[limber lion]

It's okay, @gusty mirage and @spice spire will fill the charts with those for ya

[rigid tartan]

what does it mean? we get less crit than we should? theotar stronger right now for frost assa?

[limber lion]

It means that Fatal Flaw will likely give you versatility instead of crit

[slow marsh]

theotar was already stronger

[limber lion]

And the crit is what makes it good

Just play Theotar now and forever.

[alpine latch]

But.. He's pompous

[rigid tartan]

alright thanks man

[spice spire]

True

It’s my gear man I promise

[alpine latch]

Hey, I was pumping last night. I'll take item level parses at 244 item level

[limber lion]

i joke

:smileyface:

[spice spire]

You’re not wrong though

[subtle tundra]

well, if you look at the top parses like half of them have externals
parsing feels so worthless nowadays

[spice spire]

I’m a filthy sprint clicker

[subtle tundra]

since nyalotha

[hollow river]

How’s everyone feeling about the 9.2 teaser

[limber lion]

[odd heath]

Top parses, 7 pis 1 ka

Lol...

[limber lion]

just because you can't parse doesn't mean it's pointless

[spice spire]

The real top parses are private anyway

[subtle tundra]

who said i cant?

[limber lion]

idk sounded like that

[subtle tundra]

when the game has like 10 different externals that give massive dps boosts, its just not worth caring

[subtle tundra]

i hope we get next expansion stuff aswell

[limber lion]

We didn't have externals in Ny'alotha?

[subtle tundra]

but we did have random corruptions

no, i dont count after vendor

[alpine latch]

But those aren't the same thing. You're shifting the goalpost

[limber lion]

alrighty then

[subtle tundra]

i mean, prog for any decent guild had been over for a long time

by the time they added it

[alpine latch]

@gusty mirage evidently your guild sucks and if you were decent you'd have been done for a long time now

[limber lion]

but doesn't everyone always say

"progression first, parses later"

[fallen arch]

But there’s like 3?

[subtle tundra]

nah

[alpine latch]

Yeah...

[hollow river]

Pretty sure that’s more than 3

[alpine latch]

As far as "massive damage boost" is concerned?

[limber lion]

Well to be fair, just having Kindred Affinity already gives you 15% more damage

It's not really comparable

[spice spire]

Yeah KA is illegal

[hollow river]

Ye

[limber lion]

But I mean, I got r1 on every single boss

[fallen arch]

You have PI, KA and the priest nf thing?

[limber lion]

multiple times

on all difficulties

[fallen arch]

What else?

[limber lion]

without any externals ever

[hollow river]

PI, fae, KA, Warrior necro Banner

[limber lion]

It's not exactly impossible

[hollow river]

There’s more

[odd heath]

Windfury totem

[hollow river]

[subtle tundra]

you had really good gear early

with good guild = good kill timers

[limber lion]

[fallow estuary]

Wait

[limber lion]

Well, I never did heroic with my guild. And I got multiple r1's in heroic

[alpine latch]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[pallid bough]

Also Hunter kyrian legendary

For 10%

[fallow estuary]

you get a random Tee from Theotar??

[limber lion]

I also got r1's on my very last week of playing

[subtle tundra]

not saying you dont deserve or whatever but there are other factors

[limber lion]

when everyone already had bis gear

[hollow river]

Yeah

[fallow estuary]

..

Why

[limber lion]

But yeah

I mean, externals are awful but complaining about them won't change anything

Just gotta do with what you got

[subtle tundra]

and youre most likely better assa player than me 🙂

[limber lion]

I mean, I'm not comparing us two

[quasi grotto]

gambled tea, was a ,mistake

[odd heath]

I only had 1 mythic r1 this tier ;( no externals tho

[limber lion]

And why do I always say I mean

anyways

If you get externals, great! If not, unlucky.

[oak sky]

Just get better winds

[limber lion]

I still like to try my hardest to parse even without any externals

If I get screwed over by someone who got some, then oh well

[subtle tundra]

also winds kekw, i've gotten rank 10s with 20% wind crit or whatever

[oak sky]

Ive gotten one with no warrior buff

[limber lion]

Here's to hoping 9.2 is exciting

[alpine latch]

Right?

I'm curious what the set bonuses will look like

[subtle tundra]

just make gearing characters getting the gear please... no stygian embers bullshit

[limber lion]

Tier sets and double legendaries, don't mind if I do.

[odd heath]

I'm hoping for double legendary + tier set

[slow marsh]

double leggo

[alpine latch]

I'd love to see a m+ set and a raid set

[slow marsh]

will be dumb

[limber lion]

in fact, make legendaries the tier set

[subtle tundra]

i want to play my mage but when i remember i have to do hc multiple weeks for shards...

[limber lion]

so you have to equip 4 legendary pieces to activate a tier bonus

[spice spire]

[hollow river]

Ew

[alpine latch]

Naw, fuck the whole "you gotta do everything to be good at anything" nonsense

If you only care about m+, you shouldn't be forced into raiding to push keys

[fallow estuary]

So the random tee means

i'll reroll till i get crit

and then log out till we raid

[limber lion]

sure

if you care about like 20 dps so much

[fallow estuary]

its 180

[limber lion]

link

[fallow estuary]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/unPpCnzTRU14fdn7A7y15K

[gusty mirage]

who are you again?

[alpine latch]

Well, that's the 161 not 180

[fallow estuary]

i said 180 without checking

[limber lion]

unlucky

[fallow estuary]

because in my mine it was around that number

[alpine latch]

Literally no one 😦

[gusty mirage]

You're an assa homie

don't put yourself down

[oak sky]

[spice spire]

Yeah let oxi do that for you

[gusty mirage]

go take 8 min to kill the eye again

[alpine latch]

It was that or "I'm the fucking money, don't forget it" but I am only 1/10M so ... I'm just a Mythic raider smurfing in heroics right now

[gusty mirage]

I suggest the 2nd option

[spice spire]

Sorry king can’t hear you by that 2k gap I accrued

[gusty mirage]

Sorry can't hear you from below painsmith prog

[spice spire]

250 pulls on Sylvanas + L + you’re a boomer

[gusty mirage]

240 + L + ratio'd + didn't ask + you probably smell bad

[spice spire]

Damn king that last one hurt

[gusty mirage]

got court love you bye

❤️

[slow marsh]

good luck

[ember mural]

forgot cope + seethe

[winter vapor]

I'm probably simming something wrong cos heirmir is outsimming Theotar (Guess its something to do with the tea's?) but its saying I should take IQD, bleh :/

[spice spire]

Post sim

And we’ll figure the issue

[winter vapor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4EaADzgTq5fg9Tmx3teMrC

@spice spire much ogliged

obliged*

[alpine latch]

EZ ...

Your crit is low

So IQD is simming higher

Wait, no ...

Why aren't you using a set bonus?

[winter vapor]

it should be?

[small basin]

hes using frost

[alpine latch]

Nevermind, I was looking at your Armory.

Yeah, your crit is relatively low from what I can see here

[winter vapor]

yeah logged out in M+ spec/gear

SIMC is raid setup

[alpine latch]

You're what, like 35%?

[winter vapor]

41% with heimir rn

[spice spire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f7RQD7EYyA9YotSJMkYj2F

[alpine latch]

Interesting

[spice spire]

You didn’t have 3 potencies selected for Theo

You have to unlock all

Granted this is all 252 potencies

[winter vapor]

ah, many thanks!

[spice spire]

But sf doesn’t work for venthyr 😛

[winter vapor]

yeah I don't have those but its prob more accurate :p

[spice spire]

IQD still the pick though

[winter vapor]

... dang it

[slow marsh]

iqd is gud

[alpine latch]

IQD is a solid trinket

At 252 it's better than almost everything

[slow marsh]

wish i had one

[alpine latch]

If you're not a Mythic raider it only loses to Phial

At 246, Phial is just a tad bit better than a 252 IQD

[winter vapor]

is there a link to somewhere I could get an explanation on how it functions? I just know I've steered clear of it for a) being a button to press and b) the weird buffs it gives

[small basin]

what soulbind / conduits would people go for venthyr obediance m+?

theo with wasteland?

[subtle gyro]

i have a 252 ICD and heroic guardian trinket, but sims get mad at me, if ii take off a heroic gland

[alpine latch]

Pull it up on wowhead and go to Comments -> there's a great explanation of how it works in there.

[winter vapor]

cheers mate

[alpine latch]

Also, there's like 400 different WAs for it

If you're rocking it, I suggesting using a WA

[dusk cave]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[spice spire]

@grim kettle

[grim kettle]

Thanks!

[clever kindle]

From when I was talking to my guild after the encrypted build hit PTR

[oak sky]

Yeah the vendor build seemed like the ptr would be coming soon for sure

Hype

[bitter apex]

Does anybody know if Nad and frostrime has been fixed?

[spice spire]

They have not

[bitter apex]

ofc not -_-

I fucking swear to god

[viscid spear]

Used like 15 Death-Bound Shards, got Lashing and Lethal to 252, but not WPS

[bitter apex]

Frostrime has legit been bugged since patch day

[spice spire]

Ash have you not cleared mythic grue?

[viscid spear]

It's the only one I've done, but only once

Haven't raided in a while

[spice spire]

He drops it

If you’re jones’ing

[viscid spear]

Oh yeah, he does

I forgot, looks like I need to care again, lol

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

Still have Cloaked, Recup, Quick Dec, and Maim/Mangle at 239

So not too bad if I get that WPS

[spice spire]

All sin conduits 252

[bitter apex]

Same

[viscid spear]

I bought some other stuff from Archivist, or else I could've bought more Shards

That 100% increase to Flag tho

[bitter apex]

just looked at our logs from sunday and Frostrime didn't proc even once -_-

[spice spire]

I chose to buy mount + sockets

I have 20k research still

[viscid spear]

Can you lend me some?

[spice spire]

I wish

What else am I going to do

Buy outlaw conduits

[viscid spear]

Only 5 groups in LFD, 4 of which are ads

[spice spire]

Also do a dead server

Since that wowheard article

[viscid spear]

That last one is a Normal

[spice spire]

Ohhhhh lfd I thought research farming

[viscid spear]

Is there even a good way to farm research anymore since they nerfed the exploit?

[bitter apex]

run the rextroy farm?

[kindred rapids]

well, time to give theotar a try

[bitter apex]

30 min rift 12ish k

[viscid spear]

Oh he has something?

[bitter apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNx9ZjhMQ54

[kindred rapids]

did you know theotar just gives you 60 speed and avoidance?

how is that not broken?

[viscid spear]

Don't we normally go the left route at that last fork anyway?

The 5% reduced damage taken while standing in the shade

[kindred rapids]

who can actually manage to stay in the shade

[bitter apex]

shade is rather random tbh

I need a stern talking to my umbrella bois since they keep fucking me over spawning in shit

[kindred rapids]

so many mechanics you won't have shade for

better to have avoidance

[viscid spear]

What Endurance conduit would you use then?

I guess Anima Sphere

[crimson valley]

Quick question on Master Assasin, is it ever worth it to vanish and never come back in multi-target? Outside of the pretty shiny numbers ofc

[bitter apex]

I'm running sphere and recup

[spice spire]

No; it’s not worth for the crit iirc

We had this question a while ago

[fervent rune]

Do your poisons still get the 100% crit while stealthed?

[normal mist]

Hi, i hate sylvanas hc. Thanks for listening.

[fervent rune]

Or 50% sry

[kindred rapids]

nimble fingers

is a dps increase

if you actually feint

[spice spire]

Yes

[kindred rapids]

I thought you loved it

[normal mist]

I did... but after 11 sylvanas kills (6norm/5hc) and never seeing a SINGLE drop from her... yeah no.

Got the chest 246 because of the damn vault

[kindred rapids]

oh for some reason I thought you were still progging her

[normal mist]

as a guild i am

[kindred rapids]

oh

[normal mist]

but i kill her every reset

[kindred rapids]

I see

[normal mist]

probably next reset she goes down as a guild kill

yesterday we managed to get to p3 2nd platform

hyyyyyyyype

[brazen zodiac]

im guessin we wanna use kyrian ability at 5 cps? read faq but think i misread

[oak sky]

it gives you 2cp

i think

so you would probably use it at 3 or less

[fervent rune]

Downed her every week since week 1 and haven’t seen a dagger drop for anyone

[limber lion]

Yeah just like it says in the FAQ, ideally during MA in place of Mutilate

But I mean, you probably shouldn't play Kyrian

[pliant pecan]

What leggo is everyone running for all pve content? Got obedience crafted right now but Doomblade or Zoldyck look nice

[limber lion]

Dashing Scoundrel

[normal mist]

still, seing no loot in both dificulties for 11 kills... weird!

[limber lion]

Dashing for raids, MA for open world content (wq's, Korthia, Torghast) and Zoldyck for M+.

@pliant pecan

Doomblade is quite outdated, would not recommend it

there's usually some better alternatives

[kindred rapids]

ooh, can we disenchant our doomblades now?

forgot that was supposed to be a thing in 9.1.5

[normal mist]

nooo we use them for pevepee

[spice spire]

@limber lion what about our Necrolord brethren

[limber lion]

Just run Dashing

:')

That's what I did on my second rogue as well.

[spice spire]

But it’s a loss

Still have garbage gear tho

[limber lion]

Was always an upgrade for me at t5 shards

weird

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s -20, pretty sure your alt is still more geared than me though

[limber lion]

But yeaah, if you must craft Doomblade, I would recommend crafting it after you've crafted Dashing, MA, Obedience and Zoldyck

I doubt it :P

Stonks

massive if I may say so myself

[spice spire]

No 2 ilvl higher

[limber lion]

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao just checking out the content

[gusty mirage]

This is the guy who called me garbage, do you believe that?

[brazen zodiac]

i like the lil mini games they got like the ember court and abdominal factory

[gusty mirage]

He’s actively throwing at all times

[ember mural]

^

[spice spire]

Hello? Can’t help the vault actually gabagool

[gusty mirage]

You’re actually gabagool

[limber lion]

Which one, me or Quake

[gusty mirage]

Quake

[limber lion]

because we both did

[gusty mirage]

Wait when did you call me garbage wtf

[limber lion]

it's okay

[gusty mirage]

I’m just going to go reroll boomkin

[spice spire]

Yeah he did earlier king

[gusty mirage]

As long as you can breath without thinking you’re top tier

[limber lion]

Can you make it Kyrian pl0x

cheers

[gusty mirage]

Ye I already told you I’ll make my EU Druid kyrian

[limber lion]

Freely swapping between covenants is pretty sick

[gusty mirage]

Believe in the kyrian feral stonks

[limber lion]

And most likely the reason there's so many more kyrian affinities out there now

There were legit like 0 in 9.1

[gusty mirage]

I got the hot sauce showing kyrian feral stonks

[limber lion]

Love it.

[gusty mirage]

We switching EU boys. Going to simp for Cev

[thorny pond]

Convinced my boy to swap and give me KA
We both pump

[gusty mirage]

Smell ya later

[spice spire]

@gusty mirage

[gusty mirage]

Jokes on him

I’m stuck in sylv purgatory

[spice spire]

Going to? If you were any further up, you’d be classified as colon cancer

[thorny pond]

Jesus man

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

Wow dude tell me how jealous you really are

[limber lion]

hey now boys

you're both cuties

[spice spire]

“Cope and seethe”

[gusty mirage]

Didn’t ask + you don’t deserve George

[spice spire]

This is our normal interactions these days Cev

[spice spire]

Don’t

[gusty mirage]

[limber lion]

let's go get a CapriSun and talk it out

[spice spire]

No one deserves that cutie

[thorny pond]

Quake is being a total soggodon gamer

[limber lion]

good

[gusty mirage]

True

[spice spire]

But I’m lucky enough to have the homie

Miss the 9.0 beach :/

He’d have gone in on it

[kind talon]

Shard of dyz

[thorny pond]

Gamer bait

[limber lion]

soggodon dyz nuts

get rekt

[spice spire]

You’ve changed Cev

Toxic gamer :/

[limber lion]

typing in lowercase gets to me

makes me feel powerful

[balmy condor]

put periods at the end of your sentence

that's real power

[kind talon]

stop.

[limber lion]

true.

[spice spire]

What do you mean.

[kind talon]

hey guys quick question. what is the best covenant.

[bitter apex]

Fae

[oak sky]

[bitter apex]

[glass tulip]

If I ever had a shot at a top EU guild fuck it im moving to denmark

[bitter apex]

why fucking denmark?

lmao we're bout to get locked down again

[limber lion]

Amsterdam to get the lowest ping

[kindred rapids]

only matters if you leave your house

[bitter apex]

True

also legal weed?

[kind talon]

Poggers

[fallen arch]

Ye we gucci here

[dark token]

how to get a good remmy parse again

https://i.imgur.com/FvwtnrD.png

1st kill best parse

[limber lion]

4th kill*

[dark token]

true

i think right now we kill right before 3rd vendetta

maybe thats why

[marble hemlock]

well, killtimer isnt particularly great these days

the 4min killtimer definitely hurts your chances

[spice spire]

Yeah 4:01 rough

Right before vendetta up? Yikers

[marble hemlock]

your parses got worse when you swapped to mfd

[dark token]

true

but i feel like mfd is the play especially cause you can snipe orbs now and it sims better ST idk

[limber lion]

Just hold second Vendetta and sync it with the third Flag.

[dark token]

thats what i did yeah

for the last kill

[limber lion]

dank

[timid cloud]

MFD = Worse parses? COINCIDENCE??? I think not!

[dark token]

tbh i have been getting worse parses with mfd but i think its more because we extended since painsmith and then havent fully recleared yet and parses reset, than the talent being bad

like look at guardian

https://i.imgur.com/5xeEB3z.png

[timid cloud]

I know what you mean...

[dark token]

or maybe everyone is an external gamer on rekills

idk

¯_(ツ)_/¯

my best parses tend to be prog kills actually

[limber lion]

I mean I improved 9/10 of my parses when I swapped to MfD

Improved my Eye parse by 1.3k dps, which was kinda nutty

But definitely not just because I chose a different talent xd

[dark token]

yeah i think mfd is good ST and even better with adds than vigor was with the sniping, makes the spec more engaging too

probably loses out on long council fights? (the nine maybe??) due to decreased energy

[limber lion]

Nah don't think so

[subtle gyro]

ive been getting use to Mfd, man, its so fun!

[limber lion]

I definitely enjoy it as well, especially on cleave fights

Not so much on heavy aoe tbh

[solar stump]

Mfd helped my parses too

Although probably not the sole reason I improved

[subtle gyro]

what is heavy aoe that isnt melted with Boomies and DH's?

[solar stump]

But it definitely helped

[limber lion]

Yeah, could be the Kyrian Affinity (+1.6k dps) and PI (+400 dps)

[limber lion]

There isn't any.

[solar stump]

Idk why everyone makes a big deal out of this

Wasn't like I didn't have ranks before that

[subtle gyro]

are u meaning M+ i assume?

[solar stump]

Or like other people didn't do the same and just did worse idk

[limber lion]

You didn't have any r1's iirc

But yeah, bad game what can I say

But everything is irrelevant if you're getting externals

talent choices, soulbinds, cooldown usage

[kind talon]

sup gaz

[limber lion]

everything is irrelevant

[gloomy knoll]

pretty much

[limber lion]

Like you can play your spec very very poorly and still parse top 10

if you get externals

[gloomy knoll]

one kindred buff and you can rank 1 everything

fairly easily

[limber lion]

You had 99's on most bosses, so getting r1 with externals is just a given

Now, getting r1's without externals is where it's at

[gloomy knoll]

i still need my 2nd sylv dagger

[solar stump]

Idk why you gotta make it a pissing contest

[gloomy knoll]

before i can do that

well that's easy on prog

but on farm you need ze gear

[solar stump]

I had 1 on guardian and several 2-10s before the god run. And everyone else in top 100 also has externals, I was just saying when I swapped to mfd my dps went uo

[limber lion]

Well, you downplay externals and make it seem like you're a god player who gets r1's for days

but that's not true

[solar stump]

I've done no such thing

[limber lion]

But yeah

MfD definitely helps, but so does getting extra 2k dps from externals.

[solar stump]

Talk like this is just pathetic and childish over nothing

Legit just said mfd increased my dps and you felt the need to be a bitch about it

[limber lion]

That's true, I agree.

[gloomy knoll]

problem is you can't get honest rank 1's much

this late in to the tier with this much external usage going on

like a 2k+ external boost

is not something you generally gonna overcome with good play

kinda makes it boring

[limber lion]

r1 opener right here.

But yeah, anyways

MfD is great, definitely use it!

[gloomy knoll]

what on gods green earth

[spice spire]

Pre snd’d

[limber lion]

He used SnD at 6s

[gloomy knoll]

during vendetta

and flag

loooooooool

what boss is this???/

[spice spire]

Wait no

[limber lion]

Guardian

[spice spire]

That’s not the play king

[solar stump]

I literally asked him about openers after this because I was unsure

[spice spire]

I just saw rupture first and assumed it was a 25s pull with mfd

[solar stump]

Idk why you're now turning it into an open flame

As if I didn't literally say I was doing it wrong

And asked for help

You're just being a cunt for the sake of ego boosting

And it's tragic

Never implied I was better or a god

[gloomy knoll]

like what is this

lemme just play my spec better

i'll get rank 1 sure

[limber lion]

You're right, I'm sorry.

Read you wrong and thought you were flexing.

Good thing you're self-aware, we're chillin

[kind talon]

i think that is counted as the paladin's dps

[gloomy knoll]

nope

it's in the sins log

[strange python]

externals are for losers

[gloomy knoll]

that's rank 1 guardian

40K OPENER CUZ OF PALADIN EXTERNAL LOL

[kind talon]

lmfao

[strange python]

the guys a loser

[kind talon]

zikli showing us how its done bro

[gloomy knoll]

what is this game

[strange python]

guess which one is external'd

[gloomy knoll]

or you can be like me

[subtle gyro]

Rogues....were always flexing brah 🙂

[gloomy knoll]

and get your first sylv dagger 4 months into the tier

have fun parsing then

[strange python]

guess which one is external'd

[limber lion]

Man skipped orange and pink completely

what a beast

[gloomy knoll]

lmaooo

[strange python]

yea must be a crazy player

[limber lion]

the improvement he's done overnight

it's crazy

must have meditated real hard

[kind talon]

zikli is quite an insane player

extremely strong

[strange python]

yea he read the guide

[ebon notch]

bro its the gamer socks

i got some for christmas last year

[gloomy knoll]

he has 2x259 sylv daggers

[strange python]

ppl really took rogue and turned it into an external whore

[gloomy knoll]

INSAYNE GAMER

[ebon notch]

never been the same

[kind talon]

thank you for the guide @balmy condor i was able to get kindred empowerment and power infusion thanks to your guide

[strange python]

🤢

[limber lion]

np

[balmy condor]

[kind talon]

[ebon notch]

bro dont forget fae guardians

[kind talon]

oh i almost forgot about the fae guardaina

[deep dagger]

Should I have the strongest weapon in mainhand or offhand?

[gloomy knoll]

main

[oak sky]

Brb buying wow tokens to improve my parses

[gloomy knoll]

mainhand weapon dps is yuuge

[deep dagger]

And how is it with weapons? Do I wanna run like a 246 sylv dagger mainhand, and a 239 veinripper offhand?

Or just 246 sylv + 252 dagger?

[gloomy knoll]

veinripper?

you in the wrong channel

[deep dagger]

[gloomy knoll]

#outlaw

[deep dagger]

Yeah, late night

I did mean Assassination :kewk

[gloomy knoll]

sin only uses daggers

or you can't mutilate

lol

[deep dagger]

Never tried without daggers, guess I found the answer

[gloomy knoll]

unless you wanna be spamming fok

[deep dagger]

That do sounds sexy ngl

FoK into CT

[gloomy knoll]

you can envenom with 1 dagger

just not mutilate

which is why in nyalotha people ran slapper in offhand

on the bug boss

cuz all you did is fok spam anyways lol