assassination

[spice spire]

Better stats

[normal mist]

RN, status wise im: 43% crit, 13% haste and 22% mastery

[balmy condor]

I thought we use frost set?

[hexed frost]

Yes we do sir

[spice spire]

Stats don’t matter that much 😛 you’re at a fine place

[timid cloud]

Nah, I’m more of a Mixture of gems kinda guy.

[arctic hare]

So technically, we freeze and forget

[normal mist]

Aight, pretty happy then

[hexed frost]

Bruh

[timid cloud]

[arctic hare]

lol

[hexed frost]

[normal mist]

OH another question: for conduits, do we use specific one for m+ aswell or isnt good? (havent played necro ever)

[arctic hare]

I would like to know this too for when I inevitably switch

[spice spire]

SF good, poisoned katar, lethal poisons all are good

[normal mist]

I switched from venthyr to necro and vice versa like 10 times already today xD

[arctic hare]

Ahhhh crap, I’ve gotta get sudden fractures up now

[spice spire]

If you’re having boss issues on tyran you can run WPS

[arctic hare]

Ewwwwwww

[hexed frost]

SF, lethal poisions

[timid cloud]

Relics are farmable.

[arctic hare]

Relics?

[hexed frost]

WPS?

[spice spire]

Well placed steel

[arctic hare]

Way prepared strike

[timid cloud]

Imagine not having the relics prepared knowing this day would come.

[arctic hare]

Whattttt relics?

[timid cloud]

Korthia.

[arctic hare]

Oh

Those

Yeah

I ain’t even rank 6

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

Almost t5 gaming

Rares uncapped

Time to camp yorick

[arctic hare]

Wait, they’re uncapped? Sweeeeeeeet

[hexed frost]

Oh yes.. I use that regardless of affix. Priority damage doesn't hurt

Love me topping boss damage

[arctic hare]

Me likes shiv

Shiv is funny dmg

[spice spire]

Yes they’re uncapped

Go to yorick

And just get 15 stashes

[arctic hare]

I know nearly nothing about the rares

I just kill

[normal mist]

SAME

[normal mist]

i need more intel

[arctic hare]

Same

[hexed frost]

Someone in Hunter discord switched to venthyr without having a renown 80 on that covenant

Now he cannot switch back

[normal mist]

OOF

[arctic hare]

Ouch

[timid cloud]

Yeah, I’m not doing it until I’m set free. Since this account doesn’t have an alt.

[spice spire]

Yorick has a one minute spawn timer

Go to rift

[timid cloud]

Just in case.

[spice spire]

Run to yorick

Kill fifteen times

Rinse and repeat

[arctic hare]

So

You’re saying that I can farm korthia rep?

[kind talon]

SHEEEEEEESH

🥶

thats some tech right there

how much research does he give w the new improved droprates and such

[spice spire]

A lot apparently

Check OT

#off-topic message

Down

[kind talon]

the tisu post man

holy fuck

my monk and mage are getting 252 conduits for sure now

[spice spire]

Demonic

Not even t6 on my main

[kind talon]

well now u actually have no excuse

[spice spire]

Not even t5 on main

[arctic hare]

Lol

I'm like

T3

[thorn fjord]

Crit haste on DS right?

[spice spire]

Yeah I went from 200 t4 to 7k in like 20 minutes yesterday

[spice spire]

Seems good, yeah

[arctic hare]

Thats friggin ridiculous Quake

[gusty mirage]

imagine not being t6 since end of july

how does it feel to not hate yourself?

[spice spire]

Deece

Too busy proposing king, apologies

[gusty mirage]

you'll always be the one that got away

[spice spire]

[kind talon]

thats like 14k in 20?

research

so like

3k per upgrade

[spice spire]

No 6.8k

Still a bit

[kind talon]

?

[spice spire]

I’m still t4

[kind talon]

wdym

6.8k rep is double that in research

[spice spire]

Oh

[kind talon]

so like 13.6k research

[spice spire]

You’re right

[kind talon]

which means

[spice spire]

I’m just not reading

[kind talon]

one hour of farm is

hm

40k

about

[spice spire]

I high rolled a bit

Too

[kind talon]

which is enough for 13 conduits?

[spice spire]

I got like 9 purps

[kind talon]

and there are how many conduits in total

hm

theres like

10 conduits per spec or something?

12?

[arctic hare]

Think so

or about that yeah

so yeah

GUD farm

[kind talon]

so one hour lets u upgrade every conduit once basically

thats insane

[gusty mirage]

there's that item that increases the rep you get from research

idk how much it is now

[kind talon]

ahhh

i see

true

but u need tier 6 on main for that dont u

[gusty mirage]

ye

[thorn fjord]

so they increased the rep gain?

[kind talon]

no

[spice spire]

They just uncapped rares

[thorn fjord]

ahh

[spice spire]

So it’s not once a day

[brazen zodiac]

pog

[thorn fjord]

Gotcha

[gusty mirage]

Players at Tier 6 can now purchase the item “Research Report: Relic Examination Techniques”, a new bind-on-account item they can send to an alt to increase the reputation granted by Relics and Relic Fragments by 50%.

[thorn fjord]

im still tier 4 lol

[gusty mirage]

so like

[limber lion]

You just sit on Observer Yorik

[gusty mirage]

technically yeah

[limber lion]

For like 4 hours

And you're donezo

[kind talon]

and get every conduit

thats so lit

man

[gusty mirage]

you don't have all your conduits on your rogue already? @kind talon

[kind talon]

i mean

i have all the ones that matter

!

[spice spire]

Cto

And?????

[kind talon]

lashing

[spice spire]

CTO

[kind talon]

wps

[timid cloud]

When you get T6 you get like 68k of research by then.

[kind talon]

stiletto

dd

[spice spire]

Decaf a bit of a whale

[gusty mirage]

yeah but poisoned katar

[spice spire]

True actually!

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Uncapped !!!

[timid cloud]

Even my alts got full 252’s brother...

[gusty mirage]

why do you hate yourself?! @timid cloud

[timid cloud]

WPS is Tarragrue.

So it doesn’t count.

[spice spire]

This man is nonstop on that octillionaire research grindset

[thorn fjord]

252 lashing scars is a myth 😛

[timid cloud]

I just did it everyday for sockies.

[kind talon]

My alts don’t have full 252

So

Poggars

[spice spire]

Took me 4 grue kills for wps

Unluck ig

[gusty mirage]

just loot the item

???

[strange python]

did any sims change? im too lazy to look pls tell me

[spice spire]

No

Nothing changed with 9.1.5 keep mfd venthyr

For raid

[timid cloud]

All changes were to AOE. I think Whispyr said something about sims being neat last night.

[balmy condor]

I could just say "updated 11/3" and not run any sims

and it would be the same thing

[kind talon]

took me over 10 i think

lol

[strange python]

word to big bird

[spice spire]

Do it, no balls

[spice spire]

I pugged it a few times. Guild just took plunge to mythic Monday

[kind talon]

toon plunge???

[spice spire]

Autocorrect smh

[kind talon]

ill show u a toon plunge

[spice spire]

Bro?

[kind talon]

🪠

[kind talon]

so ur just starting mythic now?

[spice spire]

Yeah. Guild slow, been big chilling

Which is why I never t6’d

[slow marsh]

hey nice hat

[timid cloud]

Being able to CT 2-3 seconds earlier than normal.

[balmy condor]

ty

[small basin]

crit/haste for zoldyck?

[slow marsh]

if it's for m+ and your itemizing for it i think crit mastery is the play now but i'm not 100% sure

[spice spire]

Crit and haste or mastery is fine. Both are fine big thing is, it needs crit

[small basin]

ok

its for m+ yeah

[brazen zodiac]

is anyone else havin issues tryna soulbind with emeni

[small basin]

dont you have to do a quest?

[brazen zodiac]

i did everything lold

finished the campaign n shit too. abandoned it like 4 times. it just lets accept, then phases out idk

[timid cloud]

Did you go talk to Emeni again?

[spice spire]

Forum post

She’s phasing

It’s not just vita having the issue apparently

[slow marsh]

Gross emeni

[brazen zodiac]

yeah i saw someone else talkn about it thought i was buggin

he aint used tho right?

or she

[spice spire]

Yeah she didn’t before

Post started today

So I’m assuming new patch madness

[brazen zodiac]

haha okay

[vestal wren]

new patch new bugs, thats expected

[brazen zodiac]

mhm

ice have u done nerco m+ before

played

[slow marsh]

She sims well for st actually but my thought process is that if I'm playing Necro I should lean in to the cleave which I believe is heirmer

[spice spire]

Marileth also good cleave

Kevin decent ending for m+

But heirmir got the crit

[brazen zodiac]

67 renown and finished the campaign rip. idk where else to get it

[slow marsh]

For m+ yeah I think marileth

Heirmer for raid tho cuz crit matters more

They are all 3 pretty close tbh

[spice spire]

Emeni was a side quest, it wasn’t from main line. Like I said only covenant that operated that way

[slow marsh]

I would go with emeni in m+ cuz it's easier to keep the primary stat boost up with resets and pustules is OP

Marileth for tyran weeks maybe idk

I haven't thought enough about sin m+ as Necro lately

[spice spire]

I just no brain heirmir

Crit go brr

[small basin]

would you play the first strike thing for plaguey?

or just 3 potency

[spice spire]

3 potency

[small basin]

lethal WPS and the covenant one right?

[brazen zodiac]

is the nerco legendary used in anythin

[small basin]

nah

[slow marsh]

They nerfed it into the ground unfort. Thanks outlaw

[small basin]

yeah it cant be balanced cos it blade flurries with outlaw

so it ends up shit for all specs now

[slow marsh]

Yep

[brazen zodiac]

haha

thats unlucky

[spice spire]

For ST, sure.

[slow marsh]

Outlaw is the only one who can reasonably use it and they don't even use it over celerity most of the time

[spice spire]

For m+ I swap PK and WPS

[brazen zodiac]

PK?

[spice spire]

Poisoned katar

[small basin]

interesting

every dungeon?

[spice spire]

No lol

[small basin]

imagine it wont get much value in top for example

[viscid spear]

So what's the best way to grind Renown, sinners?

[small basin]

torghast

[spice spire]

I was also about to say, top soa and PF it kinda bad on

Yeah torghast or comp stomp this week

[small basin]

comp stomp is slow asf

dont bother

after renown 50 or something you get renown very rarely

unless htey buffed it from last time

[brazen zodiac]

dont think so

tried that shit after 65 and never got any

[slow marsh]

Brawl comp stomp

[viscid spear]

Ugh 145 Sudden Fractures

[small basin]

go do the world boss

and then korthia

seems the soultwined crescent are no longer 1 per day

i got 3 on my rogue

[viscid spear]

True, looks like I'm scouring Korthia for a while, lol

Gotta learn how to Necro

Doomblade the best for Necro bc of SBS affecting it?

[slow marsh]

Not necessarily

[small basin]

think that and dashing are really close

[slow marsh]

Dashing is still best. It was just that doomblade held on for longer as Necro. So

[small basin]

im just using doomblade cos its what i had for pvp

[viscid spear]

How does SBS work in ST?

[small basin]

just press it

and odnt cap charges

the bleed does a lot of damage

esp with conduit

[slow marsh]

if you are using heirmer you dump during gemstones

other than that you don't cap and hold for shiv window

[hollow river]

You should get a WA for your gemstone window

[small basin]

ah ok

ignore me then

[fallen arch]

Don’t hold for shiv window

[slow marsh]

yeah it's the other way around

i haven't played necro in awhile plz forgive me am noob

[gusty mirage]

How’s the fae simming going?

[slow marsh]

i was done with that last night fam chill

[gusty mirage]

No secret tech discovered?

What if you play toxic onslaught, throw salt over your left shoulder, garlic pepper over your right and delete your character?

[slow marsh]

i figured out how to get higher than 2 parse on fatescribe

[gusty mirage]

Yeah dude just copy what I did in my 3 parse

Hello?

[slow marsh]

xD

jk i have to kill it before i can get my 4

[gusty mirage]

you orange parsed in my heart

dw

[slow marsh]

i said i have to kill it first

nerd

[gusty mirage]

not for orange parsing in my heart

dummy

in my heart you're a giga chad 10/10 HoF raider who pink parses everything

just accept my love damnit

wait nvm that's Cev

sorry bud

[slow marsh]

kek

too bad he quit

[gusty mirage]

yeah he inspires me every day to never log in again

[slow marsh]

lmao

he did what you never could

[drifting cloud]

how dare you accuse cev of having pink parses

[gusty mirage]

get CE?

[slow marsh]

quit

[gusty mirage]

he does

[drifting cloud]

is this pink to you

[gusty mirage]

yes

you're going to bully me for being color blind now?

[drifting cloud]

[gusty mirage]

[halcyon zealot]

no wonder cev quit

no competition

[gusty mirage]

there's always competition

there's a new challenge

it's called the Passassin challenge

how many externals can you get and still not get 100 parse

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

he holds the record at 11

[halcyon zealot]

lmfao

[hollow river]

Dude doesn’t even play wow anymore

He’s playing collect the simps simulator

[spice spire]

Brother pas

[viscid spear]

SBS is pretty fun in open world

[slow marsh]

yeah sbs is widely accepted as the most fun rogue thing

[gusty mirage]

if venthyr wasn't so good

I would've never switched

SBS is by far the most fun covenant ability

and on top of that fleshcraft is HUGE dr

[slow marsh]

yeah

flag just better

and theo

[drifting cloud]

and not bugged half the time

[slow marsh]

yeeee

[viscid spear]

Just trying this junk out while I level my renown

[slow marsh]

careful you might fall in love

[gusty mirage]

[slow marsh]

I'm still of the opinion that the bugs were just karma for the OP bugs during sire

one sbs full cp

during burn phase

like 4-5 envenoms in shiv

[gusty mirage]

its more the opinion that the spaghetti code can't handle sbs

remember ptr when exsang would crash the server with sbs?

[slow marsh]

[drifting cloud]

youre telling me that wasnt intended?

[gusty mirage]

that's how you beat wow

we all switch necro sin

and exsang wow into the abyss

[viscid spear]

I do miss my Flags though, but I wanted to do something different and have Necro good so I can do better in M+

[small basin]

bonespike is so satisfying to press

[viscid spear]

Doing WQs and it hits pretty hard on these weaker mobs

[celest ruin]

tfw bonespike doesnt refund low level mobs in islands

[storm belfry]

I still prefer necro assa in keys over venth. But I love venth raid

[gusty mirage]

overkilling so no refund

sadge

[viscid spear]

Is there no normal buff for the Gemstone trait until you get the 10 crit buff?

[small basin]

nop

[viscid spear]

That's what I figured, and explains why a WA was recommended to me earlier

[slow marsh]

There is

but it stacks too fast to actually track

then it goes away for 1min

[spice spire]

I have a sound with mine

[slow marsh]

yeah sound would work nicely or i just have it with my other external stuff above my afenar WA

[viscid spear]

Supposed to dumb SBS charges when you get the Gemstone buff, right? And just maintain not capping on SBS charges until then?

[slow marsh]

correct

an hold shiv up to 10s? i think is the number if gemstones is coming up

[viscid spear]

But don't use SBS charges in Shiv window unless it somehow alighns with Gemstone?

[slow marsh]

it's either 10 or 12 but ideally you would have shiv inside of gemstones

[hollow river]

Al I remember is slam shiv on CD

And a threshold for vendetta

Idr a gemstone threshold

[viscid spear]

Is there an internal CD to the Gemstone buff? Like you can't get charges for the next buff while you're in the current one

[slow marsh]

1 min cd

[hollow river]

Yeah it just procs every 1 min

Quite reliably

And if you’re using SBS with gemstone correctly you should never cap charges in ST

[storm belfry]

Do you guys align flag w vendetta every time or it varies? Seeing if I’m doing it right

[hollow river]

Only in cleave when you get refunds basically is where it can get a little trickier

[storm belfry]

Gemstone go brrr. Love that shit

[hollow river]

It varies

[storm belfry]

That’s what I was thinking. Just seeing.

[hollow river]

You sync if you won’t lost an extra flag cast

[storm belfry]

Like I don’t wanna hold it for a min

[gusty mirage]

^

I wouldnt worry about syncing last one tbh

[storm belfry]

Sometimes I use when vendetta off CD if I have shiv and some alacrity stacks

If that seems okay

[gusty mirage]

just pop it on cd unless theyre close to lining up naturally

[storm belfry]

Okay. That’s kinda what I been doing

Been necro gaming for so long. Leveling my venth renown up forgot how I played it. So just double checking. Ty for input

For raid ST you use obedience or that weird scoundrel crap

[gusty mirage]

either or

dashing usually sims higher for most

[storm belfry]

Use dashing w frost 3 set tho right

[gusty mirage]

yeppers

[storm belfry]

I love doom blade. Smodge

[viscid spear]

Did world boss, and man does Gemstone stack quick af

[storm belfry]

But I’m gonna craft obedience anyway for sub OS so might as well

[wraith mantle]

question im stuck at renown 79 with no quests granting me renown how do i get to renown 80?

[gusty mirage]

if youre caught up on campaign: raid, m+, pvp, torghast, or world boss can drop renown

[storm belfry]

Or do weekly quest

[gusty mirage]

^

[storm belfry]

And cov assault

[small basin]

you need 80 renown to mog other covenant stuff right?

[gusty mirage]

a guildie of mine was saying he couldn't use the mounts unless he got that character to 80 renown on that covenant or something like that

but I'm not sure

[hollow river]

You need 80 renown with whatever cov u wanna mog from yes

Only then can you switch and still use their mog or mounts

[storm belfry]

I have 80 of each cov so I can’t tell you

Lol

[gusty mirage]

actual crazy person lmao

but I respect it

[drifting cloud]

dont respect 80 nf

[small basin]

legit just leveling venthyr

[storm belfry]

Dude I have 6 toons I’m playing rn lol

[small basin]

so i can mog their stuff

[hollow river]

BR

[storm belfry]

Rdruid is NF, Hpal, is venth, rogue necro, and shaman is kyrian

[hollow river]

You are something else

[storm belfry]

Just got my 4th KSM today too. 2 more and I’m done w my goal

😀

Just a stay at home dad man.

[hollow river]

Lucky

[storm belfry]

Yeah it has its pros and cons

[hollow river]

U know u don’t need KSM on alts now right?

[storm belfry]

Did they revert that??

I’m also doing it cause I want to

[small basin]

i dont have a job

[hollow river]

Account wide baby

[small basin]

and i cba maintaining more than 2 chars

[storm belfry]

Goal is 3 toons at 2400+ and the rest 2100

Well my Druid, paladin and shaman don’t need anything

[gusty mirage]

did they change the mythic+ ranking requirement for upgrading stuff on alts?

[storm belfry]

So I worked on mage and rogue together

[hollow river]

@gusty mirage

[storm belfry]

And then my last is my disc priest

[hollow river]

Let’s quit our jobs bro

And go all in

[gusty mirage]

on what

[hollow river]

Hall of fame

[gusty mirage]

lmao

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

yea for sure bro

[hollow river]

Let’s do it man

[gusty mirage]

raiding 5 days a week sounds like a blast

[storm belfry]

Lmao

[hollow river]

Let’s show these zoomers

[storm belfry]

Hell yeah

[gusty mirage]

I'd rather play frogger irl

[drifting cloud]

just go alliance and you get hof with 2 days

[storm belfry]

I’m hoping we kill Sylvanas within the next 3 weeks

[gusty mirage]

sameee

[hollow river]

Same

[storm belfry]

But I cba to play hpal that fight

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

I need @drifting cloud to channel me some of his greatness

so we can kill this boss

[storm belfry]

I have 3 raid ready healers and they won’t let me play the other two

[hollow river]

I heard KSM is account wide again

[gusty mirage]

hmmm

[storm belfry]

I’m just a top tier multi classer

That gets forced to play hpal

[gusty mirage]

I wish I had an alt leveled enough to have upgradeable gear

just the monk but he's 2100

[drifting cloud]

arent you pretty close to a kill anyways oxi

[hollow river]

Same

[gusty mirage]

kinda

platform 3 is kind of a shit show tbh

[storm belfry]

Just spend all your valor on shit to sent to Alts

[hollow river]

No kill by Christmas

[storm belfry]

If I swap roles next tier and main rogue again I cba to heal on hpal

But then I risk getting sat

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

Kirbyau is that you?

[hollow river]

?

[storm belfry]

For higher keys zoldyk is still the play as venth right. On fort at least? And then obedience for tyran?

[drifting cloud]

he is not aware of the legendary kirbyau

[hollow river]

Bro post the pic

Everything I do has tactical reasoning behind it

I’m one of the top rogues in the world

[gusty mirage]

yeah you'd still play zold for assa in m+

obedience is fine

[oak sky]

Obedience is good in certain keys especially when you need prio damage

[gusty mirage]

ye

good for more flags

[oak sky]

Even on fort

[gusty mirage]

which is our only burst as assa

otherwise sin dps is about as flat as my optimism for raid tonight

[storm belfry]

How often would you swap between the two?

[timid cloud]

Cringe guild, never again.

[storm belfry]

What shard set do you use for obedience in ST raid

[oak sky]

Its a kill

[oak sky]

Always frost

[storm belfry]

You get the kill 100%

[gusty mirage]

yeah maybe we got all the dumb dumb stuff out last night

[oak sky]

Frost with any legendary

[gusty mirage]

so many people dying to swirlies and waves

[storm belfry]

Could I use doom blade

[hollow river]

Dying to waves of the cool new fad

[gusty mirage]

doomie's fine in top, and PF/Spires tyran

[oak sky]

Always frost set

[gusty mirage]

but tbh obe's better

[hollow river]

Git good bommer

[timid cloud]

Dying to daggers is the NEW NEW wave.

[storm belfry]

I was meaning raid at that point

[spice spire]

oxi correct

obe just better

[gusty mirage]

oh

I'd probably just play obedience if you don't want to play dashing

[storm belfry]

What I’m getting at is zoldyk or obe in keys.

[gusty mirage]

new mfd secret tech makes getting 28-30 stacks ez

[timid cloud]

Dashing in keys. 🤢

[storm belfry]

I could do dashing. Just don’t want to be a sheep kekw

[gusty mirage]

obedience in raid is more than good enough

[storm belfry]

I’m meaning in raid. I’m jumping all over the place. I may have adhd

[hollow river]

Mfd dashing > all

[gusty mirage]

I'll say it, fuck mfd

[storm belfry]

I was about to say

Fuck MFD

[gusty mirage]

I hate it so much

[storm belfry]

Only in pvp I’ll use

[hollow river]

Then fuck SBS

[gusty mirage]

but I'll be damned if I don't play it

[hollow river]

[gusty mirage]

yo someone ban this guy

[storm belfry]

How dare you

[timid cloud]

FUCK SBS

[hollow river]

I’m sorry I love SBS ):

[drifting cloud]

play bs, mfd, exsang, ct

it works trust

[gusty mirage]

bs?

[timid cloud]

Nty.

[gusty mirage]

imagine not playing master poisoner

smh ryler

[oak sky]

If u hate mfd just go necro

[spice spire]

ryler with the big brain 600 brain build

[oak sky]

😄

[gusty mirage]

MP, lethal poisons, dashing

[timid cloud]

I'll play MP, NS, DS, VR, HB*

[storm belfry]

Tbh with the swapping I’ll prolly be necro assa in keys and venth in raid

[viscid spear]

[oak sky]

Ns is good in keys

[hollow river]

Actually seen top 5 logs with MP/LP @gusty mirage

[oak sky]

No K

[gusty mirage]

how many externals

[hollow river]

13

[gusty mirage]

LMAO

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

It was tarragrue wasnt it

[timid cloud]

Master Poisoner is where I draw the line in trolling, Night Fae is too far.

[small basin]

is necro generally better than venthyr in keys?

[hollow river]

Sylvanas

[small basin]

due to bonespike resets?

[oak sky]

Lol what

[gusty mirage]

that and easy CP generation

[spice spire]

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[oak sky]

Necro is better on most fort keys for aoe basically

[gusty mirage]

sbs is the most energy efficient builder

[small basin]

necro is a lot harder to play tho

imo

[gusty mirage]

not harder but yea def a bit more involved

[oak sky]

Venthyr obedience can be better based on comp dungeon or being tyran

[storm belfry]

I find it so easy and fun

[small basin]

do you use mouseover for bonespikes?

or just tab

[gusty mirage]

I just tab because I used a mouseover in a 21 halls last season

and pulled a dif pack

and blamed it on the hunter

[oak sky]

Lot of people mouseover

[small basin]

lol

[gusty mirage]

[timid cloud]

Flag is fire & forget, SBS is fire & forget x3

[slow marsh]

i can see it

[small basin]

well its not quite forget

it can reset

[oak sky]

I have mouseover mfd and will probably do mouseover sbs i guess

[small basin]

flag doesnt

[timid cloud]

Clip it & ship it.

[gusty mirage]

listen man idk who pulled the houndmaster

it wasn't me

[small basin]

tbh

[slow marsh]

he prolly legit though tit was him too

[small basin]

i would always blame hunter tho

[gusty mirage]

HE DID

HE APOLOGIZED

[timid cloud]

Jesus, you condemned that man.

[storm belfry]

I tab or click

[timid cloud]

Take that kinda backstabbery to the Sub section.

[slow marsh]

he deserves it tbh

[gusty mirage]

he played MM hunter

its his fault

everyone knows its year of the spear

[viscid spear]

[storm belfry]

Always hunters fault

No cap

[small basin]

do i use crimson tempest in ST with zoldycks?

[timid cloud]

Yes.

[small basin]

ty

just outside shiv?

[timid cloud]

Yes.

I think the only time that changes is with uhhh, Dashing Scoundrel.

[small basin]

aight

[timid cloud]

If I remember correctly.

[oak sky]

Yep

[hollow river]

Uhh

You ct no matter what if 2 or more targets no?

[spice spire]

yes

[hollow river]

Oh nvm

He said st

[kind talon]

@brazen zodiac

do u have an alt

this u?

[oak sky]

[drifting cloud]

[viscid spear]

Why not Bistingfitch?

[soft shale]

why would you fist bitcoins

[viscid spear]

Yeah, dogecoin is where it's at

Good thing I saved this Soultwined Crescent, did the Venthyr Assault at got a 226 Sudden Fractures.
Minor upgrade to the 145 I'm using.

[arctic hare]

Turns out they patched the Korthia farm thingy

[viscid spear]

Which one? The research one from Vorik?

[spice spire]

@kind talon think she'd be fistingbttch

[arctic hare]

Yeah

[viscid spear]

Shame, was going to get on that soon

[arctic hare]

Yeah....

[viscid spear]

I've been lacking on getting that rep

[arctic hare]

Yeah

Was hoping to have all 252's just so I can switch to Necrolord without having to go through upgrading sudden fractures a million times

[kind talon]

TRUE my bad

[viscid spear]

Got a 226 SF from the Assault and I had the 145 on

[arctic hare]

Really?

Jesus

[spice spire]

yeah

[arctic hare]

I just have raid tmr, so

[spice spire]

you get it from doing the assault

[arctic hare]

I can't switch yet

[spice spire]

you can swap infinitely

[storm belfry]

It’s hilarious cause I just told a friend about it and right as he joined it got hot fixed

[arctic hare]

its more of a lack of conduits

and I've got raid tmr

[drifting cloud]

the 1 conduit thats different?

[arctic hare]

So i'm not sure if I could get to renown 80 by that time

[viscid spear]

And I got two of the 226 SF from the Shaping Fate weekly cache, and I had used the 226 I had gotten from the Assault

Nuts

[arctic hare]

Jeez

[viscid spear]

And I can't use the Soultwined because everything for my spec is max for that item

So now I have to get to Tier 6 with Professor Mumm-Ra

[arctic hare]

Lucky bastard lol

It'd be great if korthian relics dropped even more

[viscid spear]

You can skip the Cov campiagn, right?

[arctic hare]

No Idea

[kind talon]

no

which is good

because it gives u like 100 renown

but u can unlock 40 renown and all soulbinds insta with the item

[drifting cloud]

if youve done it before

[viscid spear]

Yeah I did that, just hate drudging through these campaigns time and again

[thorny pond]

It kills my motivation too man you aren’t alone

[viscid spear]

You can't carry souls over, right?

[storm belfry]

You don’t “have” to do the campaign now, can hit 80 w/o it. But it is good and easy renown. Other than that campaign is for mog basically now if you don’t have it

[storm belfry]

Nah don’t think so. Can still cheese bringing anima into new covenants without the sending of anima between toons

[arctic hare]

I can't figure it out, how do I make a macro work both in Stealth and out of stealth?

[viscid spear]

Still such a dumb system. Their method isn't better than "buy a bunch of stuff with Anima in your old Cov and sell it to your new one"

[storm belfry]

Yeah I like that method Tbh. Done it a lot

[novel arrow]

@balmy condor hi! Do you know the best soulbind for NF Assa ?

[balmy condor]

:/

[novel arrow]

Dont ask! it's happening

It's real!

[balmy condor]

Not sure if serious question or I’m getting hard fucking trolled

[novel arrow]

GIGA chad Sepsis

[drifting cloud]

then you should have no problems running a sim

[novel arrow]

@balmy condor nono real question. Not sure which to use. Haven't looked into NF at all.

[loud light]

raidbots.com

[thorny pond]

Why do you want NF to work?

Are we bored?

[novel arrow]

For fun.

[viscid spear]

[storm belfry]

NF is good single target but lacks in others I think

[oak sky]

Nope

Its just bad

But if hes doing it for fun

[thorny pond]

It doesn’t offer great synergy with the crit heavy build we are now

[oak sky]

[novel arrow]

Guys this is real. It's happening

I'm gonna get rank 1

As NF

It's happening

[storm belfry]

Bunch of copium on websites then w NF

[balmy condor]

Good luck with that one chief

[thorny pond]

I saw some dude selling his snake oil with unholy set and whatever NF setup he had

But I dismissed it

[balmy condor]

Name them

[thorny pond]

If you need a place to start

[balmy condor]

I’ll fucking obliterate them

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-bang-bang-bang-shoot-gif-17986214

[balmy condor]

Literally wipe them off the planet

[oak sky]

Nf is real Copege

[drifting cloud]

nf is for people that cant understand that something has to be the worst

[storm belfry]

Wowhead was saying it’s competitive now cause of the changes to their leggo for ST kekw

[drifting cloud]

it just happens that for rogues its still playable

[thorny pond]

Sepsis sucks and you have to give up a real legendary for the cool NF ability

[drifting cloud]

atleast I havent seen any necro hpals running around

[balmy condor]

I find that hard to believe, because I’m wowhead

[storm belfry]

Yeah I dislike NF and Kyrian

[thorny pond]

Like maybe if you’re getting Pi and fae guardians

[storm belfry]

Omegalul

Though Kyrian is good for sub pvp? I think idk

[thorny pond]

Kyrian is sub dream ST

[oak sky]

Kyrian is good on outlaw and pure st sub

[drifting cloud]

yeah kyrian is bis for sub pvp but what has that got to do with anything

[thorny pond]

I’ll blast some adds with 7pt BPs

[storm belfry]

Just talking about covenants I think are useless kek

[drifting cloud]

rogue only has 1 useless covenant

[storm belfry]

Assuming NF

[novel arrow]

!!!

Haters

[storm belfry]

Lmao

[novel arrow]

Haters!

[storm belfry]

GL man

[novel arrow]

I mean after CE, u just gotta have fun. Numbers be damned. Because NF is the best.

Can any other covenant let you be an alpaca?

[thorny pond]

More movement lol

[novel arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-alpacas-squad-gif-10843585

Thats me

[oak sky]

I have fun by winning damage

But its fine

[drifting cloud]

we really dont care dude, have fun with nf

[oak sky]

Havr your fun

[balmy condor]

Wtf is happening

And why does it have to happen when I clock in for work

[storm belfry]

Be a corgi

[weak plover]

Is there a macro for flag/sbs so that you dont have to rebind keys every time you switch cov?

[novel arrow]

Theres no corgi shapeshift

[storm belfry]

Luckily it’s slow at my job rn. So I am enjoying reading this lol

[storm belfry]

Crittershape I thought

[novel arrow]

That too.

[storm belfry]

Ik not useable in content but in rested area

[balmy condor]

#showtooltip
/cast Serrated Bone Spike
/cast Flagellation

Should just use whatever is available

[weak plover]

thanks

[balmy condor]

[storm belfry]

Maybe the person I saw post themselves as one used a toy then? Idk

Oh wait

There is a corgi one

[novel arrow]

I dont know

if that was released

I've honestly never ever seen it.

[storm belfry]

Says it’s “secret” kek. Whatever that means

So it is real

Must find

Gotta talk to someone to activate crittershapes. Then find this guy in the sanctum and pet him

[golden basalt]

Get this into general chat, too much fae shit going on here

[slow marsh]

LITERALLY WOWHEAD

[slow marsh]

You're probs thinking for sub. It's the best leggo for NF sub but still not good

[echo geyser]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[echo geyser]

@eager stratus

[eager stratus]

Ty yeah im looking at it now

[slow marsh]

My successors doing the work of the devil

[full tendon]

I want night fae to be good ;_;

[slow marsh]

i wwant night fae to be good but not cuz i want to play it

[balmy condor]

Venthyr is Just night fae but better

I don’t really get the point of night fae

[oak sky]

I want night fae to stay bad 😈

Tbh only kyrian and venthyr actually interact with the rogue base kit

[slow marsh]

NF does

shiv

[oak sky]

Nf kinda does but not in a good way

[slow marsh]

it's just the rest of the kit is shit

and the stealth ability on sepsis pop is llegit useless

[oak sky]

Yeah thats what im saying

[slow marsh]

like there's actually a ton of potential there

but nobody plays rogue on the dev team

[oak sky]

L for us

Guy for community councilmember

✊

[balmy condor]

Think about how shit fae is, that it’s buffed by shiv, which is buffed by wps, and the conduit, and mastery, and haste

And it still gets obliterated by flag which is just “lul does some damage and gives haste”

Lashing is good tho

[oak sky]

Actual good conduit

Really makes you feel like big dm

Dam

Like q turret

[balmy condor]

Can really feel the instant 4% haste from lashing the moment you hit flag

Feels so good

I came

[drifting cloud]

[slow marsh]

yeah

it's sad

design

compounded by sad shard set design

[oak sky]

I like flag as a kind of add another cd thing

Necro is nice multitarget and passive damage choice

Kyrian is fine i guess a nice little boost

Sepsis is a weird short dot or whatever

[echo geyser]

if sepsis did big dam it would be like flag

just add the stealth element again

let it proc MA / subterfuge

[oak sky]

No

Keep it bad i like venthyr

[echo geyser]

also found out lots of the good soulshapes cant even be used in combat

[oak sky]

L

[echo geyser]

nice blizzard

[oak sky]

Door is bis for korthia

Cant change my mind

[glass tulip]

^^

[oak sky]

I missed it so much when i was doing necro renown grind

[solar stump]

Flesh craft is really nice on prog tho

[oak sky]

Necro is good for stuff

Yeah

I was gonna say

[glass tulip]

at 78 and finishing the cov campaign now

[echo geyser]

sbs for openworld pull mobs from everywhere

[oak sky]

Also nice

[glass tulip]

feel good in pvp

[slow marsh]

sepsis should be 1 min burst cd like i think it was supposed to be designed as

and yeah if the stealth actually worked with stealth talents

[oak sky]

Im enjoying all our QoL in 915

But i want to hear about 9.2

[slow marsh]

same

[solar stump]

Imagine 9.2 we could double dip Covenant abilities

Although that'd be awful because we'd all have to reroll boomkin

[oak sky]

Convoke venthyr druids at the end of ramp

[solar stump]

So never mind

[oak sky]

Lol

Imagine

[solar stump]

Yeah that's immediately what I thought when I said it 😂

[glass tulip]

So question: on KT were you guys all in the jar in intermission?

I'm assigned outside and am scared, I've only ever gone in during intermission

[slow marsh]

lucky you

[glass tulip]

hm i just realized I should probably take CT then. hmmm

[oak sky]

Should be taking ct either way tbh

[glass tulip]

🤷

[oak sky]

I mean unless the raid needs tons of phyla damage

[glass tulip]

im not even going in

[oak sky]

But like that fight is mostly a stay alive 4Head thing

Moreso than a damage thing

[glass tulip]

so yeah, add padding andy over here

[drifting cloud]

you overestimate guilds 1k ranks lower than you agreon 😛

[glass tulip]

im expecting something like 50-60 pulls from my raid, we'll see how it goes

[oak sky]

Bro im not even high rank

I got CE 2w ago

[drifting cloud]

well yeah b ut youve had ce for a few weeks

guilds that just got 9/10 are like 2k

[glass tulip]

okay and?

[oak sky]

We were around 50-60 pulls but some of those were before the changes

[drifting cloud]

its just easy to wipe alot on kt, same as how some guilds can just kill him under 20 pulls

[glass tulip]

our raid's main issue is a few liabilities of players. The thing is, we cant recruit and replace them because there aren't better players that aren't 10/10

just tough when the game is so low pop rn

[oak sky]

Its a player market not a guild market

[echo geyser]

this is the time when 6/10M people get their chance for higher ranked guilds

[nimble tartan]

that is very very false thinking

[clever kindle]

we just had to replace 20% of our guild after we killed painsmith

lol

[nimble tartan]

trust me if u do due diligence and look into ur apps even of lower progged players u can find good ones

[clever kindle]

not even stuck on him anymore, but people were quitting or taking breaks

[glass tulip]

We are trying to help them improve but as a combination of several factors officers would rather replace

[oak sky]

No hes talking about recruitment moreso

It seems

Like he means theres good players not 10/10 yet

[clever kindle]

there are plenty of great players that raid with certain guilds because of friends or time constraints

[glass tulip]

I was speaking generally, so that is fair

[echo geyser]

i wonder how does a recruitment officer go through logs to see if lower kills people are good

[glass tulip]

however, based on our experience so far everyone we have trialed is basically a 1-to-1 replacement

[echo geyser]

defensive usage etc?

[balmy condor]

I’m 9/10 whats good bb no prior CE experience you tryna fuck?

[echo geyser]

[balmy condor]

[echo geyser]

u can join me

[clever kindle]

I mean, damage parses, execution, damage taken and deaths on progression logs maybe

[glass tulip]

whispyr you gotta chill

[clever kindle]

you have to look at everything relative

[oak sky]

Me, a cloak presser, healthstone user, health pot enjoy

Er

[eager stratus]

Yeah my slate is wiped clean no progress since I main swapped.

[balmy condor]

Dinner at my place first, I feel you

[oak sky]

Down to trial? 👀

[clever kindle]

always getting topped up by that frost set

[glass tulip]

I mean, I'm in

[clever kindle]

and recup

[balmy condor]

👀 Issa joke

[oak sky]

👀 i know

[drifting cloud]

whispyr how much to remove the stupid hat

[balmy condor]

I’m actually quite happy with my guild atm aside from the brain dead

[balmy condor]

A lifetime supply of full mythic carries

[oak sky]

Sounds unfun

To never earn ce for yourself

[drifting cloud]

bro I have to carry our alts

people legit cant do 7k in p3 sylvn

[glass tulip]

I would pay for CE but I'd be more embarrassed for someone to look at my logs and see a carry than I would be to be 8/10 at the end of the tier

[drifting cloud]

and then we lust start of platform4 just because everyone is alive

and boss still dies 1min after lust ends

[balmy condor]

I can probably do that do I get a discount

[oak sky]

Paying for gear funnel after you already got CE is 👍

[drifting cloud]

youd probably outperform a 1/5 of our roster

atleast

[glass tulip]

now that sharkshoes has 2 259 EoN's I want to drop a toaster in my bathtub

[oak sky]

Idk

It annoys me too

[drifting cloud]

but yeah the atlantic ocean is the bigger problem

[glass tulip]

I havent seen a dagger since my 233 in week 2 vault 🙂

[oak sky]

But max is a better player in general than probably 99% of the discord

So its whatever

[glass tulip]

that is fair

I am doing what they call "saving my luck"

[oak sky]

Well anyways

I have kt reprog

In 10min

[glass tulip]

good luck!, get that skip

record a vod for me 🤣

[oak sky]

Might crash my computer lmao

[drifting cloud]

can you give people the skip like you could in CN?

[glass tulip]

I'll buy you a new hamster

[oak sky]

Yep @drifting cloud

A guy in our guild paid 300k for ot

[drifting cloud]

nice

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

[oak sky]

Thats how were on it

[glass tulip]

yeah, the person that opens it gets 250k

[drifting cloud]

the guy doesnt even get saved right, he just ports out after 1min?

[kind talon]

almost 3 hours later

[brazen zodiac]

i was watching tv

[kind talon]

L

[oak sky]

@spice spire lol i did less on the nine than i did last week and i didnt even miss a cast of vendetta

i didnt have windfury this week tho

[drifting cloud]

dont look at winds %

[oak sky]

the first winds must have crit

last week

idk

[umbral sandal]

Tarra mythic parses is getting out of hand hahaha

[jaunty goblet]

Can you evasion the dark sentinels on M sylv?

Got pulled in randomly for a guilds prog

[drifting cloud]

yes

[jaunty goblet]

cool thanks!

[balmy condor]

Not playing mfd

[marble hemlock]

Can also always safely use it as you'll only ever get one sentinel in p1

If you got it on second the second wave you'll never get it on the third, and vice versa

[tired thistle]

As an example if you dot something upstairs on KT and then go down do you get the energy regen from the dot ticks in the other phase?

[marble hemlock]

Yes

As long as the poison is still active

Can also have people downstairs hit the remnant and go back up, i.e dh applying their debuff real quick and then going back out

[ebon notch]

he got rank 1

clearly vigor is better

[balmy condor]

Fuck you’re so right

[limpid willow]

got something better for ya

[hollow river]

I mean daps Pman said it

Must be true right

[limpid willow]

#show
/cast Echoing Reprimand
/cast Flagellation
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Serrated Bone Spike
/cast Sepsis
/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell(GetRunningMacro(), G"Echoing Reprimand" or G"Flagellation" or G"Serrated Bone Spike"or G"Sepsis")

[weak plover]

!!!! Big

[hollow river]

a macro for signature abilities:
#showtooltip
/cast Summon Steward
/cast Door of Shadows
/cast Fleshcraft
/cast Soulshape
/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell(GetRunningMacro(), G"Summon Steward" or G"Door of Shadows" or G"Fleshcraft" or G"Soulshape")

This ones for signature abilities

[limpid willow]

modified that for the venthy boys

#showtooltip
/cast [@ cursor] Door of Shadows
/cast Soulshape
/cast Fleshcraft
/cast Summon Steward
/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell(GetRunningMacro(), G"Door of Shadows" or G"Soulshape" or G"Fleshcraft"or G"Summon Steward")

for door of shadows

[hollow river]

Pog

[ebon notch]

[glass tulip]

those macros are very pog

[hollow river]

very pog indeed