I just link them that log
#assassination
kind talon
Parses aren’t the most important thing
strange python
parsing should never be an excuse to play poorly I guess is my point
gusty mirage
scuffed the opener, got all 3 runes, scuffed like 3 flags
kind talon
Ppl that ask why u play x spec should honestly just shut the fuck up if they are sub wr 50
balmy condor
@verbal mantle said he would do it 
the fool
kind talon
Pisses me off
gusty mirage
<@!193393699319840769> said he would do it <:kekl:753617830296944660> the fool
oh sweet dadsen
kind talon
Oh no dadsen 
strange python
Ppl that ask why u play x spec should honestly just shut the fuck up if they are...
ok but you literally play outlaw 
oak sky
evasion everything 
kind talon
ok but you literally play outlaw <a:kekWloser:791836536454512695>
Problem?
kind talon
<:Cringe:750832154358972427>
gusty mirage
<:PEEK:701199446737944710>
you still have time to back out
kind talon
That emote man deep fried
verbal mantle
tazavesh m+ when?
balmy condor
9.2
verbal mantle
I have to mentally prepare
gusty mirage
oh idk I only did it on hardmode
balmy condor
gusty mirage
@balmy condor was there
kind talon
oh idk I only did it on hardmode
Yeah hardmode is cancer
kind talon
I REMEMBER
full tendon
Just got r5 blood like last week. Will work on UH next, but genuinely feel our healers struggle, and my AOE needs less boost than ST
kind talon
Just got r5 blood like last week. Will work on UH next, but genuinely feel our h...
Good man
You will probably parse pretty poorly on monk with blood compared to unholy in big aoe fights
But
The st value of blood is better for the raid
And defensive
And consistency
full tendon
I'm really not worried about parsing. Big numbers is cool, but I want the kill/loot.
kind talon
W
full tendon
But tired of what feels like more than half our DPS concerned more with parsing than killing.
We're easily gonna be a 300 wipe Painsmith. Currently like 130.
subtle tundra
true rogues dont play for the parse, they ARE the parse. born in the parse
kind talon
True
strange python
true rogues dont play for the parse, they ARE the parse. born in the parse
true rogues track every single buff and debuff to every exist 
100 buffs anchored to their nameplates
hollow river
@gusty mirage do you go left/left in p2?
hollow river
Yeah they tried to send me right/left too
Either way my issue is, since I don’t have bleeds or alacrity rolling when I get to a platform I feel starved as fuck
I’m barely getting any damage out on first add platform
hollow river
I always do that
oak sky
yeah then you use a finisher right before it runs out
echo geyser
actually i dont have memory of sin but it should be possible?
oak sky
it is
echo geyser
echo geyser
What do you use mfd for on first add platform
send it on the low hp add
well i never went left on first
oak sky
um
echo geyser
but right side has a small hp add + 2 big ones
hollow river
I’ve used it to get a rupture rolling on Goliath
oak sky
just build to rupture
i would build to rupture then get it off on as many balls as possible
hollow river
Left side just has adds no orbs iirc?
oak sky
yeah just hit an add
hollow river
I could switch back to right side if I wanted
oak sky
nah it doesnt matter really
oak sky
wherever they like your damage
hollow river
And then they always call to run from Sylvanas before she’s immune
Feels so wrong but ik it’s correct
hollow river
Just gotta make sure I have sprint or something to catch up a bit
I’ve done that a couple times as well
Does anyone know
If I rupture/garrote her right before she goes immune
echo geyser
then u get
hollow river
That’s what I’m wondering
echo geyser
i would always make sure u have cp for alacrity refresh when running tho
hollow river
I will check logs to see if the dots stick after we go to the trashcan man
echo geyser
unless theres other adds nearby
hollow river
True
hollow river
I always do that for p1 -> p2
echo geyser
obedience or dashing for sylv
hollow river
Yessir
hollow river
hollow river
I don’t send CDs on adds
ebon notch
<:monkascheme:585734083590750219> obedience or dashing for sylv
dashing
you should
or you lose a cast
ebon notch
yep
ebon notch
because you dont have vendetta back up for 2nd burn if you use it on first
hollow river
You get half of it on 2nd burn
ebon notch
nope
hollow river
Yes
ebon notch
i get full duration also
hollow river
Sure
ebon notch
i literally get it just before end of 2nd platform
hollow river
Because you send on adds
hollow river
I know that
That’s what the method guide says to do
I’ve explained this to my RL
He wants me on burns
ebon notch
so why are you insistent on 1st/2nd burn
hollow river
I get PI
ebon notch
is the priest nf
ebon notch
boomering for sure
hollow river
Ik what would give me the best parse
ebon notch
i also flag 2nd platform
hollow river
I’m just doing what I’m asked
hollow river
2nd add platform?
ebon notch
yh
hollow river
Colossus?
ebon notch
yh
hollow river
Yeah I think we need more dam there tbh
ebon notch
cause if im using cds on 1st platform
i dont want to be holding flag for that long for 2nd burn
ebon notch
nah
dam on 2nd still good
especially if i have step up
cause i can step over 1st waves
and get giga uptime
echo geyser
what does step over waves mean exactly
hollow river
Step over first waves?
echo geyser
hollow river
I always cloak waves
strange python
shadowstep
hollow river
Duh
echo geyser
strange python
i presume it means you go back a bit and then shadowstep to boss
after waves have come
echo geyser
oh lmao
i thought there was a step trick to make u take 0 wave dmg
while full uptime
hollow river
Idk I’m just doing what my RL asks
Maybe I can talk him into letting me switch it up but I highly doubt it
ebon notch
i presume it means you go back a bit and then shadowstep to boss
im in key
ty for translate
hollow river
He referred me to Seli’s kill log for timings
strange python
np
hollow river
Both he and the other rogue in his guild used on boss burns
And the other rogue synced flag+vendetta every cast in p3
echo geyser
true heath
Is assa good in m+
ebon notch
who cares about killing boss
this certainly was a cringe comment
hollow river
some of the top logs for the fight only use 6 casts
echo geyser
maybe they kill fast
drifting cloud
thats normal
drifting cloud
then he fucked it up, unless they do early platform 4 lust
or he got arrows when vendetta comes off cd
hollow river
there's 12:29 kill times wow
echo geyser
getting arrows
hollow river
i don't see any 11s on top 100 assa logs at least
hollow river
still insane
full tendon
Is assa good in m+
Depends on what you mean by good
spice spire
Push absolute mad ma
true heath
Like, does it do good damage
spice spire
Is assa good in m+
Assassination is the worst m+ spec but still very good. Rogue very good at the moment
full tendon
Easily the worst of the 3 specs for rogue in M+, but it can still do well
hollow river
idk a lot of the logs im looking at send on boss burns
strange python
the damage it does do is good because it's to the right target
just that's the same for every rogue spec
hollow river
no external buffs either
strange python
no rogue spec does conventionally "good damage"
spice spire
We’re literal funnel and kick bots
strange python
if your beating other's overalls with a rogue spec, they're playing bad
drifting cloud
idk a lot of the logs im looking at send on boss burns
I can tell you as someone who has done almsot all variatons
if you do both boss burns, you can fuck yourself over really easily
full tendon
if your beating other's overalls with a rogue spec, they're playing bad
So sad but true, and happens more often than I care to see---even in 22s
drifting cloud
p1, 2nd burn is probably the easiest one
theres an arrow that overlaps with vendetta coming off cd when you use 2nd half of 2nd burn if you get that arrow
youre basically losing a cast in p3 because of it
or if you just space out for 10s, youre just gonna delay your vendetta out of the standard lust after veil on 4th platform timing
hollow river
i see where you're coming from
maybe i make a WA to remind me the exact timing of when to send?
everything in the fight besides p1 phasing is scripted correct?
true heath
Okay
hollow river
so timers shouldn't change?
drifting cloud
how are you using now?
true heath
I’m coming from playing a BM hunter. Sub is super weird, I don’t really get it. Assa seems more uhh user friendly
hollow river
pull, after 3rd veil/boss burn 1+2/3 in p3=last with lust
echo geyser
I’m coming from playing a BM hunter. Sub is super weird, I don’t really get it. ...
sin is a lot more forgiving for sure
im actually surprised theres more sub logs than sin this tier, but not sure if private logs affect this.
echo geyser
true i guess it doesnt matter how good the parses are
but i bet sin parses better on avg
drifting cloud
did you know bm has more logs on sylvn than mm
echo geyser
drifting cloud
I find that super odd atleast
hollow river
i guess exactly when you phase out of p1 would effect timers later on in the fight...
carmine dawn
Isn’t Bm the more braindead one
hollow river
yes
echo geyser
bm yes
carmine dawn
I find that super odd atleast
Figured it out
drifting cloud
yeah I know that jake but I legit dont know anyone that plays bm
sub still has more logs than assa on sylv
😄
echo geyser
nf bm is rly strong st
carmine dawn
lmao my one friend who did just hated playing hunter in general
echo geyser
also its just wayy too chill to play raids with that spec
carmine dawn
So he played whichever was better
drifting cloud
yeah I get that, and that usually shosw in log numbers on earlier bosses
but its still last boss atleast
drifting cloud
I guess its just because theres like 2k guilds that are 9/10 now
which is a big number not that far into the tier
atleast compared to literally any tier in the last 3 xpacs
but yeah damn on early bosses bm is just doubling mm logs on some bosses
drifting cloud
number of logs
drifting cloud
I guess its just super popular in casual world
I mean on tarragrue theres more bm logs than boomie logs
actually on all first 3
timid cloud
It’s an easy spec & gamer dads are stuck at 3/10. I said what I said.
timid cloud
😂
ebon notch
theres a reason why roger played bm on pain
drifting cloud
yeah I get all that Id just never think theres more bm logs than freaking boomies
ebon notch
@full tendon i saw you in hunter discord 
plain onyx
Anyone familiar with SpellQueue Window ?
balmy condor
Yeh
balmy condor
Anyone familiar with SpellQueue Window ?
What’s the question
glass tulip
That was it, wdym
plain onyx
What’s the question
hehe sorry went away, apologize. thing is read an article on reddit that no matter which class the SpellQueue window should be set equally to your ping and not to keep it 400 by default.
balmy condor
Oh
plain onyx
This is why i asked, need a professional answer if this is true
balmy condor
Yeah that doesn’t really make any sense
I think for the most part, 400 is a little overkill for most “good” internets
But setting it equal to your ping isn’t some magic bullet or something
fallen charm
hey guys you know the season affix miniboss that pulls the group and we have to kill the chains? most of the time I'm not pulled with the group
sly monolith
3 days testet several times
fallen charm
is it a rogue thing or what?
fallen charm
is there another way to get dashing?
archivists but it's rgn
sly monolith
what do i need there=
balmy condor
Sucks
balmy condor
hey guys you know the season affix miniboss that pulls the group and we have to ...
Idk, it happens sometimes but I’m not quite sure what causes it
Maybe some weird dodge
frosty bridge
hey guys you know the season affix miniboss that pulls the group and we have to ...
happens and i have no clue why tbh
frail niche
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
vast forum
hey guys you know the season affix miniboss that pulls the group and we have to ...
i think you can "dodge" it
haven't tested with evasion
but i've generally only seen it happen to tanks, melee and hunters
never casters
and i assume it's because casters can't dodge while casting
oak sky
yeah sometimes you just dont get one
dusky vault
do we use CT in ST at all or only 2+ targets
steel ridge
no CT in ST so far
you can check pretty easily in quicksim, it wont show your CT in the damage details, since the sim doesnt use it for Patchwerk
sinful cradle
Depends on the legendary you use tbh
with dashing its dps neutral to use it in ST
while its a gain with other legendaries iirc
steel ridge
with dashing its dps neutral to use it in ST
i use dashing and it has been a 200 dps loss so far
hollow river
without dashing it should be a small gain but only when talented into it
so for dungeons always, for raid only a couple fights
oak sky
i use dashing and it has been a 200 dps loss so far
Compared to never pressing it?
Or compared to poison bomb
oak sky
Yeah that should be around 200-300 dps
hollow river
you skill into it for dungeons and certain boss fights
hollow river
he's asking if he should cast it in a ST situation, when talented into it i'd assume
steel ridge
no doubt
hollow river
aka dungeon bosses and when there's no adds around
hollow river
can't wait to try out sbs again for giga cleave
oak sky
And if ur doing dashing you only press it when multiple targets show up like they were saying
hollow river
oak sky
Dude fort weeks are gonna blast
steel ridge
i just wanna have ER back
hollow river
oak sky
U want kyrian?
steel ridge
i am looking forward to it, havent been kyrian since 9.0
oak sky
Go for it if you enjoy it
oak sky
Dont think the leggo is great on sin but its good on the other specs for sure
steel ridge
kinda worried about ST loss for Assa tho
yeah i am multispeccing anyway, so its no biggy
its more a mood thing
oak sky
Kyrian is ok ish on sin but the leggo is like worse than playing nf
If ur feeling it for fun thougj
Full send it
fallen charm
is it worth to hold shiv for vendetta or nah?
steel ridge
yeah sin probably sticks to dashing right
steel ridge
tempted to switch before reset, but i kinda need the 80 renown boost items for alts
hollow river
80 renown boost?
steel ridge
with 80 renown you can purchase the 40 renown booster pack for alts
hollow river
oh u mean your first 80
steel ridge
my kyrian cov on rogue is 32 renown 
hollow river
mine are all 40 cept nf
hollow river
im 78 venth lol
steel ridge
sitting on like 60k anima that i might need to transfer to kyrian
hollow river
gotta do shaping fate and anima after reset
steel ridge
arent you eligible for catch up ?
steel ridge
portal is bis
hexed frost
Forgive me for this noob question but does zoldyck insignia buff our class bleeds or does it buff necro bone spikes? Or does it buff all of them? I did a 17 SD and did 910K damage from bonespikes, where i normally do 400-500K dmg on other dungeons.
There's no way i did this much dmg from spikes by just multi-dotting.
244 ilvl, if it matters anyways.
golden basalt
cant say for sure but it would be very weird for sbs to not be included since its a rogue ability that puts a bleed effect
hexed frost
From icyveins guide for SBS/Necro sin rogue:-
"While this damage over time effect is considered a bleed, it does not interact with most of our bleed-related specialization mechanics like Exsanguinate or Venomous Wounds. Our Mastery, as well as the Zoldyck Insignia and Doomblade legendary power, do synergize with it."
subtle tundra
compare number of casts
also consider venthyr buff so it will naturally do a bit more dmg
hexed frost
Oh yeah, venthyr buff too. Forgot about it
spice spire
Zoldyck’s affects the bleed, the IV guide is correct. And should be considering seli is a NL OTP
limber lion
Forgive me for this noob question but does zoldyck insignia buff our class bleed...
"Does it buff our class bleeds or bone spikes?" is a bit of a weird question because it buffing the former does not mean that it wouldn't buff the latter.
Zoldyck buffs both. Garrote, Rupture, Crimson Tempest, Internal Bleeding and even Serrated Bonespike among other things.
prisma cypress
zoldyck is just for non-venthyr, right
limber lion
Huh?
prisma cypress
does it ever out-perform obedience?
limber lion
It really depends on the dungeon and what you want to do.
prisma cypress
i sim it from time to time and it's always way behind
limber lion
Obedience is not necessarily always the best choice.
Dungeon Slice is a generalized simming method for dungeons.
But all dungeons are different.
In some dungeons you can get more value out of Zoldyck and less from Obedience.
It also depends on your group comp
prisma cypress
what factors favor zoldyck? larger/longer pulls?
limber lion
If you do a high key where a fire mage burst down the entire pack to 30-0%, you'll likely get more value out of the Zoldyck.
Playing with burst heavy comps where your allies do most of their portion of the damage near the beginning of the pack is favorable for Zoldyck
gusty mirage
^
limber lion
And some dungeons by design benefit better from Zoldyck.
prisma cypress
so it's really a comp-specific optimization for high keys, not something you'd just use in general
limber lion
Have you simmed multiple targets with low fight lengths as well?
Not just Dungeon Slice.
gusty mirage
well tbh if you're worried about front loaded damage you shouldn't play sin anyway
sin in m+ can synergize well with ww monk for example
because they just blow up packs if they get a proc
and everything goes from like 100% to like 20% health in like 2-3 gcds
zold doesn't seem exciting because it isn't
no assa leggo is really wow in m+ tbh
it's like Cev said it's really based on what your role is in your group
obedience offers you more flags, which is essentially the only burst we have as assa rogues
zold is more consistent
its a set it and forget it leggo
hard to play bad around zold
hexed frost
So I M+ as a necro sin what leggo is favourable if not Zyldock?
My premade has frost mage and ele shammy though
limber lion
You should just play Zoldyck, why wouldn't you?
hollow river
Zoldycks
gusty mirage
yeah if you're not venthyr your only option is really zold
hexed frost
Ohh I misinterpreted the comments xD
spice spire
You should just play Zoldyck, why wouldn't you?
Doomblade in ToP naysayer right here
limber lion
Zoldyck is the best choice for all covenants, except for Venthyr.
spice spire
Smh
limber lion
And that is arguable.
hollow river
Deathspike for the pad 
limber lion
Doomblade in ToP naysayer right here
yuk
spice spire
gusty mirage
@spice spire besides top, PF tyran, and maybe spires if you play doom you're actually trolling
spice spire
100%
limber lion
Yo @spice spire ping me
spice spire
@limber lion
gusty mirage
spice spire
hollow river
gusty mirage
@spice spire I'll miss you
spice spire
Yeah, I turn them off nonstop
limber lion
I always end up missing Quake's comments because he didn't have reply-notifications on
spice spire
I’m sorry 
limber lion
it's oki :)
gusty mirage
Cev about to ban you 
spice spire
If I feel I’m just adding local commentary compared to a valid point, I turn them off
limber lion
Fair enough
gusty mirage
but yeah you play zold because what else are you going to play essentially
spice spire
Yeah
gusty mirage
I want something that actually changes my gameplay
playing the wrong class for that bud
hollow river
gusty mirage
I think that's probably why the outlaw rogues had boners for deathly in 9.0
because it actually changed gameplay
even though it was definitely less damage than celerity
limber lion
It also did mad damage
gusty mirage
lol
hollow river
MA too
limber lion
Which is always fun
gusty mirage
celerity is a lot like zold
limber lion
Nah the first iteration of Deathspike did more than Celerity
hollow river
Sin and outlaw not allowed to burst over 35-40k in dungeon
Bursting 60k+ as sub was a nice change of pace at least
kind talon
whats a reply notification
limber lion
Idk what it's called, but whenever you reply to someone you get pinged.
You can turn that functionality off so you can reply to people without them getting pinged.
spice spire
Ethical replying 
subtle tundra
now that we can compare to ww, original deathspike doesnt even seem that op anymore
gusty mirage
Ethical replying <:joeagony:807416277249163264>
Fu
vestal wren
sbs on beta > pre nerfed deathspike
kind talon
Ethical replying <:joeagony:807416277249163264>
i would never do that
lol
get pinged idiot
cosmic sandal
Alright lads, I need proper advice/a chat. Guild is flaming me because on Mythic Remnant, my orb damage is low (legit dumbest thing just wait), so i get one mut off on an orb before both die, and like 2 when the 3'd spawns. Our orbs drop proper fast. But they have blamed me and the other rogue for wiping due to out low orb damage. What the hell am i supposed to do
also, parsing 99's on literally every pull apart from the ones i switch to orbs, throw out 2 muts and lose a bunch of dps for some dumb reason
am i shit
subtle tundra
Alright lads, I need proper advice/a chat. Guild is flaming me because on Mythic...
the orb has legit 100k health
tell them to get better and stop complaining
if you need an assa to swap targets to a low hp mob your guild is doing something wrong
static mirage
Wiping with orbs probably more related to not getting them off the platform quicker. I never hit them
cosmic sandal
Thats what i'm saying, legit askin 10/10m rogues on my server and they said same as you guys
cheers ima have a word
limber lion
Alright lads, I need proper advice/a chat. Guild is flaming me because on Mythic...
Currently wiping to orbs staying alive for too long is not an issue.
Those things used to have A LOT more health so it was actually a valid complaint back then
But nowadays you shouldn't really focus them down too heavily and just let them die to cleave, unless you know you'll be facing a really bad overlap or you're struggling taking them off the platform.
Feel free to refer them to me if they start whining and I'll set them straight.
fleet anchor
also, parsing 99's on literally every pull apart from the ones i switch to orbs,...
The dumb reason could be due to getting Frost procs on Orbs which is definitely a problem as it wastes a bunch of damage if you aren't careful
frozen turtle
Hello everyone i recently started raiding again since WoTLK and I'm pretty new to all these advanced tools and resources available these days. I have been trying to up my parses which seem to hover around 70's and 80's ...i've watched tons of YouTube Videos and tried to study higher parsing rogues with similar iLVL but cant seem to make any progress. Below is my profile on wow logs. Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can get the most out of my sin rogues damage potential and hit those 95+ parses ??https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/osharko
cosmic sandal
The dumb reason could be due to getting Frost procs on Orbs which is definitely ...
yeah legit, i told raid lead that called me out that i lost a fuckload of winter damage when i swapped. The orbs die REALLY fast, like, if it were an issue i can easily switch, but the fact i get one global in is dumb. 100% a not being thrown off fast enough issue
hollow river
yeah legit, i told raid lead that called me out that i lost a fuckload of winter...
Rupturing them before they’re actually taking damage, if they’re like right next to you/boss, is good.
You get energy back.
cosmic sandal
You get energy back.
Oh true, cheers
fleet anchor
Rupturing them before they’re actually taking damage, if they’re like right next...
Except if you get a crit on them before your Winds proc fires off and you do a Winds damage against 99% immunity
Ask me how I know
🙂
Problem with Winds really is we have no way of specifically controlling what they go on, it's just RNG based on the last crit that registers before it fires off. So any time an immunity is mixed in, there's some pretty significant risk of losing damage
hollow river
I mean RNG is RNG
subtle tundra
when remnant of kt gets phased 1 sec before winds proc :(((
hollow river
With what you’re implying this could happen on any fight with adds, no?
Oh, an immunity
I suppose that’d be a decent reason enough to track Winds
So you can try to prevent such an occurrence
echo geyser
Except if you get a crit on them before your Winds proc fires off and you do a W...
You just never swap then right?
Them dying with rupture doesnt even give energy refund, same with mfd
fleet anchor
Well when they die they don't really die
spice spire
Hello everyone i recently started raiding again since WoTLK and I'm pretty new t...
If I could get a thread here, might be helpful.
But a couple of things I see, without going super SUPER in depth.
A. On your opener, you want to get that bleed damage going a couple of globals earlier. So basically you’re right, it’s mut, snd, Mut, garrote , flag, rupture.
B. You have a 246 EoN mainhand and a 252 offhand, swap those. Eon Is a powerful weapon, but it’s effects will work in offhand, and you want your highest ilvl weapon in mh.
C. On the eye specifically, your bleed uptimes were a bit low.
D. You seem to waste exactly 5 CP on mut every fight, avoid that if at all possible. Remember you can use your finisher on max-1. So if you have 4 CP built? You don’t have to Mut, you can just send a finisher
hollow river
The energy you get is from when they’re immune/before they die, but yeah
fleet anchor
They just go friendly and take overkill damage until they expire
spice spire
That’s it without going all in and looking at shiv placements, exact rotations, pooling, etc.
lusty surge
That’s it without going all in and looking at shiv placements, exact rotations, ...
i think a good mindset for learning sin rotation is to force yourself to use shiv on cd every time
had success teaching a guildie that way, your rotation gets adjusted correctly to get 3 envenoms off
and all the bleed refreshes fall into place
kind talon
If I could get a thread here, might be helpful.
But a couple of things I see, wi...
Edge of night is a powerful weapon, but it’s effects will work in offhand
That wording bro
Too pure for this world
vestal wren
Problem with Winds really is we have no way of specifically controlling what the...
just get 100% crit 
spice spire
It is, and envenoms aren’t really the issue. It’s just making sure it’s on CD, it’s easier to find it as an uptime buff than an “I gotta burst this window” buff
I mean people have this weird prio in sin for edge of night, but in reality. Offhand gaming is where it’s relegated unless you’re hyper unlucky or 259 edge of night gaming
lusty surge
ya for sure, the uptime mentality works well too
limber lion
Sharko log review
frozen turtle
If I could get a thread here, might be helpful.
But a couple of things I see, wi...
Thanks! i'll start by working on the things you highlighted
spice spire
Yessir. And there’s a thread below as well - there may be some more in depth feedback from others
I’m just an ape that does review from mobile at work
When I’m waiting on SSA to answer 
frozen turtle
i think a good mindset for learning sin rotation is to force yourself to use shi...
there have been several times i forget to shiv because i try to line it up with having a refreshed rupture and or vendetta
limber lion
Please continue in the thread. :)
spice spire
@gusty mirage reminder to do KT today king
gusty mirage
<@192059095279337473> reminder to do KT today king
hollow river
I'm more stressed because the fight exists
I can try to help too if you ever need a hand
gusty mirage
I can try to help too if you ever need a hand
can you help lead me in front of a bus?
preferably a moving bus
gusty mirage
kind talon
preferably a moving bus
I gotchu
kind talon
thx bb
But only if u push that mage from plaguefall in front of you he deserves it more than u do
gusty mirage
LOL
kind talon
MENTALLY
kind talon
YEP YEP YEP
gusty mirage
didn't realize it was March still
kind talon
some of the bozu deaths were a bit
gusty mirage
because my tank wanted to copy ryfie's team's route
kind talon
int
gusty mirage
kind talon
because my tank wanted to copy ryfie's team's route
YEP
i remember discussing the mdi route tank 
spice spire
This man should have paid you for that carry king
gusty mirage
awkward
spice spire
Unacceptable mage damage
gusty mirage
forgot to change talents
I was actually trolling my own key
played MoS instead of tornado
and soothing darkness instead of cheat
spice spire
Deadass telling me I inted a key when I was 2k ahead 
And you’re trolling a 21
On jah
spice spire
Doubt
gusty mirage
plus I brought a certified pumper
I noticed the wrong talents after 1st boss
because I'm actually throwing
spice spire
Good thing it’s a tyran week because fortified might have been sketch with two rogues
gusty mirage
it was an actual grief
gusty mirage
Papa Ion didn't want you to get the phial
kind talon
L
gusty mirage
said it was frankly a skill issue
kind talon
true
hollow river
I got my phial in like sub 15 pf
hollow river
🙃
kind talon
gusty mirage
you helped carry tf out that key
blizz should take away that mage's PF portal
and give you a 2nd one
kind talon
kind talon
oxi is misrepresenting the damage meters
spice spire
Technically a portal to top top
spice spire
Oxi is fake news
kind talon
Technically a portal to top top
spice spire
kind talon
spice spire
Same here
kind talon
W
spice spire
Actual useless portals for me
gusty mirage
spice spire
<@!170031192400199681> do you have the details of you getting hit with that fron...
Healing mechanic
He’s too busy pumping
kind talon
i was STANDING BESIDE HIM
kind talon
its not my fault hes fucking FAT AND has a BIG MOUTH
gusty mirage
he was actually getting griefed lmao
kind talon
okay?
spice spire
Meters say pumping
kind talon
yeah i
spice spire
Sorry king
gusty mirage
9.2k is low for monks
kind talon
spice spire
Monk alt
kind talon
i just need to improve at my class tbh
gusty mirage
its actually disgusting the difference
kind talon
spice spire
Oh true
spice spire
spice spire
How’s that 4k boss damage tho
gusty mirage
lmao he went from last to first 3rd boss
got a proc on the adds
zoomed to 1st
sick classd
gusty mirage
true
gusty mirage
the dude I used to run with
would obliterate meters in AoE
and be right there with me on boss dam
spice spire
Yeah.
gusty mirage
these were 18s and 19s
spice spire
They have burst
kind talon
cause ele shaman can do OK in cds with u but
gusty mirage
spice spire
But after it’s dog
kind talon
in 23+
gusty mirage
bruh
kind talon
it falls off out of cds
kind talon
and second set of cds doesnt save it
kind talon
spice spire
It’s okay, my highest is a 20 sanguine
Deadass haven’t pushed a key in a month
Dead inside
gusty mirage
we should
kind talon
ele shaman OP ST
gusty mirage
that's what blizz thinks the "baseline" should be
kind talon
just yoinking ur third leg oxi dw
spice spire
Ele shaman aoe is a crime against god so it’s a wash
kind talon
gusty mirage
@spice spire have you met a ww monk ever?
kind talon
its all sustained dmg
u can do like 20-30k over a pull
but u cant burst 100k
bad dmg profile
dense hamlet
ele shaman aoe is not even that good
monks arent that good aswell
spice spire
Ours pumps up to about 65
dense hamlet
ur details buggin
dense hamlet
spice spire
Flat damage profile on jah
gusty mirage
actual dogwater
spice spire
Facts don’t care about feelings
gusty mirage
yeah neither does the fact that the "free CP" argument
kind talon
and mage teleports
gusty mirage
not as great anymore
kind talon
this class has everything
kind talon
dumb game design
spice spire
5 CP foks nonstop btw
kind talon
5 CP foks nonstop btw
spice spire
After you argued that ran a key
kind talon
And?
spice spire
Got the singular
gusty mirage
no better feeling
spice spire
Huge w
kind talon
you think we believe u?
gusty mirage
I believe him
spice spire
On jah king
gusty mirage
just fok better @kind talon
spice spire
True
kind talon
"yeah i got 6 chiji procs in a row"
gusty mirage
that's what I meant when I sent you "u want sum fek"
gusty mirage
you leave my otp friend alone
hollow river
I’ve gotten hella 4xCP muts in a row
gusty mirage
he's sensitive
spice spire
Overcapped so hard
gusty mirage
@spice spire just spam CT
spice spire
Don’t
hollow river
spice spire
kind talon
i tuned into his stream one time deadass
he was spamming ct
i asked
why are u not spreading ruptures
"because ct does more damage"
spice spire
kind talon
slow marsh
What about night fae @gusty mirage ?
gusty mirage
what about it
slow marsh
idk i thought you said something about how you cna't wait to test it tomorrow
echo geyser
gusty mirage
idk i thought you said something about how you cna't wait to test it tomorrow
yeah bro for sure
I'll get right on that
I love doing less damage for no reason
timid cloud
No there’s a reason.
slow marsh
it's only 3-400 less than venthyr
gusty mirage
because I hate myself?
slow marsh
and it's not even optimized
timid cloud
The reason being you’re Night Fae & that legendary is fucking horrible.
gusty mirage
it's only 3-400 less than venthyr
yeah man some of us are hot ass garbage and need that 3-400 dps
gusty mirage
I just need to beat the DH in boss damage
and I'm content
idc if I'm doing tank damage
timid cloud
THIS IS IT, MASTERY BUILD NIGHT FAE PUMPERS RISE.
You ever just willingly go back to doing Castle Nathria numbers?
spice spire
THIS IS IT, MASTERY BUILD NIGHT FAE PUMPERS RISE.
Oshosi shooters still in the streets
gusty mirage
everytime a sin rogue says mastery's good an angel cries
quasi grotto
Looking for a quick bit of advice for CD usage on sylv. Should I pop vendetta early on pull to try maximise second usage before veil in p1?
I'm also being asked to pop all only on Goli for p2, not burn phases
limber lion
Looking for a quick bit of advice for CD usage on sylv. Should I pop vendetta ea...
Yes, the p2 sounds perfect as well as you'll have it back for the second burn
quasi grotto
Sorry not goli. Collosus
hollow river
Oshosi shooters still in the streets
For real
oak sky
hollow river
Sorry not goli. Collosus
That’s kinda weird use of your 2 minutes
hollow river
Yes, the p2 sounds perfect as well as you'll have it back for the second burn
If I’m assigned to pop on both boss burns, with no faeries, should I pop as soon as I use a GCD on boss?
quasi grotto
That’s kinda weird use of your 2 minutes
Yeah I'm not happy with it to be honest, going to ask to use it more efficiently. But currently on trial
hollow river
To try and minimize the delay for 2nd burn
gusty mirage
To try and minimize the delay for 2nd burn
ye I asked him about it last week
hollow river
Yeah I'm not happy with it to be honest, going to ask to use it more efficiently...
I mean if they’re positive they don’t need the boss damage, then go along with what they want. But usually sim uses on Goliath+2nd burn or on both burns; with 2nd burn being a bit delayed
hollow river
ye I asked him about it last week
gusty mirage
because I noticed I was hitting 2nd burn with like 12s until vendetta up last week
he said to just pop vendetta earlier in the rotation
to make sure it's up for 2nd burn
hollow river
because I noticed I was hitting 2nd burn with like 12s until vendetta up last we...
Yep
Kk
Yeah I mean vendetta will help get bleeds up faster anyways since it gives energy iirc?
hollow river
because I noticed I was hitting 2nd burn with like 12s until vendetta up last we...
Maybe I can get our disc priest to go NF after reset
Is faeries from their nf leggo?
Or just cov ability
gusty mirage
Cov ability
slow marsh
The real tech is.
the real tech is to actually sync sepsis with shiv and vanish instead of when it pops
but idk i haven't tried it yet
oak sky
slow marsh
the apl right now has shiv like halfway through the sepsis cast for some reason
subtle tundra
have they even fixed AR/SB on assa?
true heath
but yeah you play zold because what else are you going to play essentially
Isn’t dashing scoundrel good too
subtle tundra
na the leggo still shit
hidden m+ giga dps
true heath
I’m either going to craft scoundrel on my alt rogue today or swap to Venthyr tomorrow and make the Venthyr leggo
oak sky
Isn’t dashing scoundrel good too
In m+? Not really
subtle tundra
I’m either going to craft scoundrel on my alt rogue today or swap to Venthyr tom...
you can do both 🙂
farmable cinders
oak sky
Necro zoldyck next week 👀
true heath
I don’t have the memory for zold yet or I’d make that