#assassination

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gusty mirage
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Hacha, please stop shit posting when people ask legitimate questions

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Thanks.

soft shale
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i think we had a clip of a rogue jumping the ball

gusty mirage
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Nice. It’s not repeatable and it’s not contributing to the discussion

ember mural
gusty mirage
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So therefor it’s shit posting

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I don’t go into sub and toss in useless one liners that don’t help anyone

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I kindly ask you to show the same respect here

inland hull
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I shadowstepped to a ball once.

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Once.

thick sail
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I thought I was being clever thinking I could target a player who was already past the ball and Shadowstep to them

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That was a mistake

inland hull
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Yeah, that's when I said my new favorite call out "Using cheat!"

thick sail
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God bless cheat death

stray mural
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When I’m doing high keys and I hear the cheat sound effect go off I think both thank christ I’m a rogue and also oh no my cheat is gone and I’m doing something I shouldn’t

soft shale
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when that raging/bolstered mob does 1 auto

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and you hear the sound

fallen arch
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Always just be cool and say you’re used to proccing it on cd

winged kindle
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If you’re gonna take the talent you gotta get use out of it, it’s just good practice

stray mural
trim vale
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do you use deahtly shadow legendary as assa?

balmy condor
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No

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The prepull stuff is sub only

trim vale
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okok ty!

vestal wren
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it was fixed on sin/outlaw but it wasn't even worth using on those 2

bitter apex
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what is the best soulbind for sin rogue ? Nadja or theo? atm I seem to loose out on the shade every god damn time cus it procs bad would Nadja be better then?

soft shale
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which boss

bitter apex
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currently working progress on painsmith 😦

soft shale
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nadja can highroll more but you wont see huge gains one from the other

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theo does give you avoidance and nadja some damage reduction too on dauntless so pick what you think is best

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in the end everything will end up if your winds crit more or less

bitter apex
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it just feels really bad missing out on the shade due it's procs being fucky as hell 😦

ebon notch
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shade is not super giga for assa

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obviously its nice

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but you dont want to int for it

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just sim yourself and see whats best

bitter apex
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it's a 42 dps drop with Nadja but thinking about having to miss out on roughly 50% of the shades I think it evens out

limber lion
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But Thrill Seeker is not exactly super reliable either

ebon notch
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^^^

limber lion
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It can proc during intermission and stuff

ebon notch
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also saying you will miss 50% of shades is giga theorycrafting

grim hornet
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!guides

prisma monolithBOT
ebon notch
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sry i mean feelycrafting

limber lion
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It takes 80s to proc it so missing out on it is a bigger loss

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Than missing out on one shade

ebon notch
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do ps balls dying trigger thrill seeker stacks?

limber lion
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But it's of course a bit hard to predict

limber lion
ebon notch
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thats kinda cool

bitter apex
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it was honestly just a guesstimate with the % but it feels like it tbh haha but we've just gotten to painsmith so we're barely making it past intermission :/

ebon notch
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honestly you will not lose out by picking one or the other

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i guarantee your rotation has bigger problems that will make up more than 45 dps

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that you would be missing from either of the soulbinds

limber lion
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I would just use Nadja

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Pick and forget

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Never have to think about it again

bitter apex
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also how do I sim IQD correctly cus atm it's only my first use that gives stats no matter what boss we're on

limber lion
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You should be getting stats almost every cast.

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Do you have a weak aura to track it?

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You don't exactly need to press it the second it comes off cooldown

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But you can sim around 80% success rate to see how it does.

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If it's still beating the other choices, just stick to it.

bitter apex
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I've got a aura to track it but apparently our healers are very thirsty cus after first use it mainly just states "mana" after

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was thinking maybe a selftarget macro when I use it could work?

limber lion
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Nah, it prioritizes mana more.

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But your healers shouldn't be manastarved after 3 minutes.

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But if that's the case, just use something else then.

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Not much you can do about your healers misplaying

bitter apex
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I've got 252 flayed and only a 226 guardian trinket 😦 but according to sims it's a roughly 100 dps drop

thin imp
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can I soak with tank the guardian soak?

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need to evasion+cloack or just cheating death?

twilit python
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just cloak

thin imp
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okay someone said that mythic was different

dense hamlet
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evasion and cheat do nothing on the tank soak so its not any different

hollow river
thin imp
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yea we doing it, thanks!

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just I said I could soak with cloack and someone said that I couldn't lol

oak sky
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You for sure can like all of us have done it

viscid spear
ripe saddle
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Hey is there a conduit change for using envenom leggo?

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Like will [Lethal Poisons] be betteR?

oak sky
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lethal poisons is pretty much our 3rd best conduit

slow marsh
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it does gain value using dashing but just depends. sim will tell you what to play

ripe saddle
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@oak skybut as venthry we use the other talent right

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[Dauntless Duelist]

dense hamlet
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yes

ripe saddle
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rip [Dashing Scoundrel] drops from council

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2hr queue D:

dense hamlet
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or buy a token from u covenant hall

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or whatever that was

ripe saddle
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omg

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i love u is it guranteed for right leggo

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rip 0 [Grateful Offering]

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bad rng all my korthia points

dense hamlet
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well

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yeah its abit rng if u dont have those useless legos

brazen zodiac
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@spice spire PAIN IS DEAD

spice spire
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LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

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HUGE W IN CHAT

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Ring check?

slow marsh
brazen zodiac
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i died

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cause im too high for this

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but

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somehow we did it

spice spire
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Enjoy 7/10 homie

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It’s freeeeee

brazen zodiac
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if theres a god he'll bless me with a 252 trinket

spice spire
kind talon
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@sullen aspen

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WTF?

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wrong ping

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@spice spire

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i need your assinsationce

spice spire
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What’s up king?

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Ping me in case I pass out @kind talon always wanna help my fellow rogue brethren Prayge

kind talon
spice spire
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Oh for raid?

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Assassination, then Outlaw following week

inland hull
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First H Sylv kill tonight! AOTC! It was... well it was not very good (green parse) but got it done! Thanks for all the advice/pointers!

oak sky
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great job!

strange python
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Damn this channel died

gusty mirage
gusty mirage
balmy condor
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That’s why channel so empty

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Everyone left

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To uh….. new… world?

hallow sage
gusty mirage
balmy condor
hollow river
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Or free to get CE and dip if you’d like, that probably works too.

fathom swift
balmy condor
fathom swift
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when are you starting?

balmy condor
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I already started like 2 weeks ago

gusty mirage
balmy condor
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Ketsuki Just slow on the announce I guess idk

fathom swift
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o nice

gusty mirage
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Last time I did any serious prog I quit after killing arthas on 25m heroic

fathom swift
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gl with the rotation page update thats gonna be a lot of work prob

gusty mirage
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It’s only fitting I go out a similar fashion 11 years later

balmy condor
oak sky
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im stuck

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in a ragnaros pain pug

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for my weekly chest

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i love monday

balmy condor
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The bbcode stuff is already brain melting

gusty mirage
fathom swift
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you get used to it and start memorizing spell ids after a while lol

gusty mirage
oak sky
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what guide are you writing?

balmy condor
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Not even like

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Standard bbcode

gusty mirage
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Oh wonderful

balmy condor
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Thing is uh, not great tbh

gusty mirage
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That’s peak pepega

balmy condor
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But it’s whatever

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Just something to learn

balmy condor
oak sky
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ur writing the sin wowhead guide??

balmy condor
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Yes

gusty mirage
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Yes

oak sky
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it needed some help

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last i checked

balmy condor
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I already updated talent page last week

gusty mirage
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He’s answered the calling for all 24 of us still playing the spec

oak sky
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bs/vigor kekw

balmy condor
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Yeaaaaa….

oak sky
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is mfd in the guide

gusty mirage
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9.0 were dark times

balmy condor
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I mean it’s meant for a wide audience right

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Not just giga chads in rogue disc

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But bs/vig

fathom swift
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i like putting both as options

gusty mirage
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Is there a way change the layout of the guide or is that not your department?

balmy condor
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That is my department

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The pages stay the same though I think

hollow river
balmy condor
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Idk how high-level I have control

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Bolas probably knows better

gusty mirage
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Just show them your orange name

balmy condor
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I’m just dipping my toes in

gusty mirage
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And your matching in game title

oak sky
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yikes

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im out of this pug

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3rd wipe for literally no reason

gusty mirage
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@fathom swift god bless you for doing that too btw

oak sky
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i wish i got in when they were on soulrender

gusty mirage
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Writing and updating those guides seems like a lot

oak sky
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what happened to mystler did he quit or just not do the guides anymore

fathom swift
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depends on the page, some you have more control over how its formatted and some you dont

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like rotation pages you can have tons of extra stuff if its relevant to your spec

oak sky
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@balmy condor ❤️

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balmy condor
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Oh I missed a capital on that second sanctum of domination

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My capitalization is terrible btw

oak sky
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I could proofread it logs

strange python
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Feel like I haven't seen that many mfd/obe logs pop up on the top of rankings yet

balmy condor
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I grew up writing in german, where every noun is capitalized, and then learned english shortly after where only proper nouns are capitalized, and then instead of figuring out what constitutes a proper noun, I just sorta gave up and capitalized thing that seemed important

oak sky
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i dont think theres much chance of obedience catching on

balmy condor
oak sky
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but mfd should be

strange python
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I like vigor :/ hate the garrote delay in opener without it

balmy condor
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we were so close to ep/ds

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Fucking frost set

strange python
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Next patch

hollow river
strange python
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When sub dies without unholy and edge of night

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Err blood

balmy condor
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Well

strange python
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Whatever. Deeper daggers

oak sky
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ep/ds

balmy condor
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Edge of night gonna be a thing unless they nerf it

oak sky
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what are the conditions for that

balmy condor
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At least mainhand

sinful flicker
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which legendary would be better for m+? zoldyck or dashing or doomblade as necro?

balmy condor
oak sky
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gotcha

strange python
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Yeah but subs gonna drop a bit without it's temporary SoD power. Barring compensation buffs

oak sky
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yeah next tier i guess

hollow river
balmy condor
sinful flicker
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godchas!

strange python
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Hey. I use dashing in keys

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Too lazy to go get a zoldycks

oak sky
sinful flicker
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for single target in raid, is it okay to use dashing instead of doomblade?

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as necro.

strange python
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I do like 11k with it?

oak sky
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and?

strange python
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It works fine

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I can't do more torghast

balmy condor
strange python
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Don't make me

oak sky
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i just run 235 leggos in m+

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i dont do torgy either

sinful flicker
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thanks all mighty whispyr

balmy condor
oak sky
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alright lets get me bis powers for this h tarragrue

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its time

strange python
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What are bis powers btw

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Also how to force raiders to get simp powers

oak sky
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howler huddled carvings elethium weights

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and potent acid gland

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crit power is good too

balmy condor
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Imagine being at your computer to type that faster than me

oak sky
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as im doing a pug

hollow river
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Lmfao

oak sky
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LOL

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well the dream is dead

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2nd power haste buff

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sadge

balmy condor
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I need one more boss for vault

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But I also just woke up from like a 6 hour nap

oak sky
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i need tarra and 1 more

hollow river
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I need 1 more for 9vault

oak sky
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u can probably join this pug

hollow river
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And I cbf

balmy condor
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Is what I need

oak sky
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o

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for heroic?

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are you 7/9 killed or something?

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im just doing 3 including sylv

balmy condor
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8/9

oak sky
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o

balmy condor
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10 bosses, missing 2

oak sky
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right

balmy condor
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Math kinda hard

oak sky
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im hoping my guild can kill m sylv next monday

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might not be until tuesday or wednesday tho

balmy condor
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I’m hoping we kill before Christmas

hollow river
balmy condor
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Apparently we’re doing a reclear this week cause raid lead is off on vacation to some beach or something

gusty mirage
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Pls tell me they’re saving the lockout?

oak sky
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lucky you

balmy condor
oak sky
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i wish i could reclear

gusty mirage
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We’re going back into sylv tomorrow

oak sky
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painge

hollow river
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Just raid lead your guild whispyr

gusty mirage
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Cant wait to wipe to chains again for 3 hours

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About to be lit

hollow river
hollow river
gusty mirage
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Maybe we’ll finally see some of p2

oak sky
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we hit p3 a lot today

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platform 2 prog pog

balmy condor
oak sky
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just need to cut down tank deaths and stuff

hollow river
gusty mirage
balmy condor
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Well not the guild I raid in

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The guild that I made in like legion m

gusty mirage
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Oh nihil

balmy condor
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That one

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Is uh

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Sorta dying real fast

hollow river
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Oh?

gusty mirage
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Ye Jez told me

hollow river
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U have two guilds?

balmy condor
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Not really

gusty mirage
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Great way to build morale, shit on your two tanks

balmy condor
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I was a guild lead until this tier

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But then left

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And that was sort of okay, I’ve left before, but then they stopped caring about it so it started falling apart

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And then it got toxic

hollow river
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😮 never would’ve known

balmy condor
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And then the person I gave lead to gquit and joined my new guild

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And then a healer quit

gusty mirage
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That’s why you can’t leave us

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We’ll all reroll fire mage if you quit

hollow river
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Half of my guild has started Venthyr boomies -.-

gusty mirage
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Imagine not rolling necro ww

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Tell your guild that they’re actually brain dead

balmy condor
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We had a hunter go venth boomkin in this guild, and then we got to sylv and he goes “hm maybe I go back hunter”

hollow river
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We need more ranged

gusty mirage
hollow river
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Or at least good alts for next tier

hollow river
oak sky
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some bitch feared me

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i cba

gusty mirage
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It was me. My bad dude

oak sky
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thanks oxi

gusty mirage
oak sky
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my powers were bad anyway

hollow river
gusty mirage
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@balmy condor my RL won’t let me go sub for sylv

oak sky
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time to kill eye with this sack of shit group then enjoy getting no sylv loot in the vault

gusty mirage
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Send help

hollow river
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Why do you wanna go sub

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It actually feels so bad on sylv imo

gusty mirage
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Because the people in charge of killing chains suck at it

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And I’m actually useless on chains

hollow river
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Oh

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Yep

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Same issue

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Just gots optimize

balmy condor
# gusty mirage ????????

Oh you think that’s confusing, we had a tank, brewmaster, but then he was needed as a offspec heal, so he obviously played mi… resto shaman, that’s right, and then our warlock went brewmaster, but then we didn’t need the heal anymore so the resto shaman obviously swapped back, to enhance, and then we recruited a new tank, who also plays brewmaster, which means the warlock can play warlock again, and the enhance shaman can get benched because lmao melee

hollow river
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Your comp HAS to be better than ours @gusty mirage

gusty mirage
hollow river
oak sky
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does your guild have 2 arms warriors whispyr

hollow river
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Most funny shit I’ve seen all day

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Lmfao

oak sky
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please say yes

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i want an excuse to roast your rl

balmy condor
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We have 1 warrior and he got cucked by realm transfer cross realm something or another so our Paladin tank went warrior tank on Thursday

hollow river
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And we benched wft

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For sylv

oak sky
gusty mirage
oak sky
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theres no way

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melee is good on sylv

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and you bench your enh

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with 2 arms warriors

kind talon
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:)

hollow river
oak sky
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clearly just doing a little bit of trolling

hollow river
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:/

balmy condor
oak sky
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you mean 7k?

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oh wait 7.5k

gusty mirage
kind talon
hollow river
oak sky
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wow is a math problem

hollow river
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My 11k>that

gusty mirage
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One of our boomies went back fae

oak sky
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so is your enh bad?

hollow river
oak sky
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or just no gear

gusty mirage
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Kinda sus

hollow river
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Well

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No comment

oak sky
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fae boomie is totally fine tbh

hollow river
balmy condor
hollow river
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You have a ww @gusty mirage pepehands

gusty mirage
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In true monk fashion he either does a lot of damage or no damage

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You love to see it

balmy condor
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NO I CANT GO FAE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE DAMAGE ITS SO BAD ITS ACTUALLY TROLLING I CANT NO VENTH IS THE ONLY COVENANT REEEE

gusty mirage
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I was so thankful for our fae boomie in 2nd phylac phase

hollow river
gusty mirage
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Legit only person who could do damage

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I couldn’t see shit cause of double spear of bastion

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They coordinated it too so that no one could see swirlies

balmy condor
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Not having spell effects set to essential

gusty mirage
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I like lagging, hello?

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I have a 3070 why not abuse it

balmy condor
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Dude I turned that shit down now I don’t even see wild spirits anymore

gusty mirage
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Okay yeah I’m switching

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Because I legit couldn’t see shit

balmy condor
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One of our hunters used it on pull on KT and someone flamed him for it

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And I was like

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There’s a wild spirits?

hollow river
gusty mirage
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He plays blood

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He’s fine

hollow river
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Or can you switch the settings

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I’m actually interested oxi :/

balmy condor
hollow river
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I want to turn them off too

gusty mirage
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Yeah I’m just doing it

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I can’t see shit under sylv either

balmy condor
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It doesn’t like delete the spell from your screen

hollow river
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I meant like SLT/disc shield

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Oh

gusty mirage
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It’d be hard to miss those tbh

hollow river
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I thought you could turn that shit all the way off

gusty mirage
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You can

hollow river
balmy condor
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Spirit link can be a little rough sometimes

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But I think that’s just it’s a ring and blends in on KT

hollow river
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Yeah I had my stuff turned all the way down

balmy condor
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But disc bubble is still too much

hollow river
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I wouldn’t even see the ring

gusty mirage
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Spirit link is communism change my mind

balmy condor
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Flashbang on my fucking screen

hollow river
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Just faint strings linking people

gusty mirage
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“OUR health comrade”

hollow river
balmy condor
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Blood set is just weak spirit link

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Why do we need a link

hollow river
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Fine then

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4 resto Druid tranqs

gusty mirage
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Rdruid is actually so disgustingly underrated

balmy condor
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Oh god not the Resto druid tranq

hollow river
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We have a resto Druid, technically 2 because our boomie mains resto

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I brought up kyrian to them the other day

balmy condor
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If I have to hear our resto druid respond to “why are you out in fucking China?” With “I stand here so I can ramp” one more fucking time I might actually jump off a bridge

hollow river
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And they had no idea what I was on about

gusty mirage
balmy condor
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It’s fine

hollow river
gusty mirage
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Lmao that one warlock who kept dying on painsmith and got benched gquit

kind talon
hollow river
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Being on bench feels so shit

gusty mirage
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Honestly I couldn’t give less of a shit. Bring me in on those farm kills idc

hollow river
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I got benched because my internet was fucking up for our fate kill :/

gusty mirage
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Let me get my CE so I can stop logging in

hollow river
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Lmao

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I just don’t wanna reprog painsmith

gusty mirage
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It’s not as bad the 2nd time

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Or so I hear

hollow river
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2nd/3rd sylv kills aren’t gonna be fun either

gusty mirage
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Haven’t been in on another pain kill and don’t plan on it

hollow river
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I mean it’s not AS bad

gusty mirage
hollow river
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But after a month or two?

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Ryfies guild got stuck for a couple hrs I think

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But they made it up to kt tn

gusty mirage
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That and remnant

fallen arch
gusty mirage
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Actual dogshit bosses

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And KT

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Fuck KT

hollow river
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Yep

gusty mirage
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Boss sucks

kind talon
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sylv is legit

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so fun

hollow river
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Whole raid kinda shit

fallen arch
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KT was aight from my perspective

kind talon
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m sylv

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is an amazing boss

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extremely fun

fallen arch
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Sylv mythic is dumb

kind talon
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too long, yes

gusty mirage
kind talon
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but the fight itself plays well imo i enjoy playing it

fallen arch
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Sorry but 14 minute prog fight? How is that fun

kind talon
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its too long

gusty mirage
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He already killed it

kind talon
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but its fun

fallen arch
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And every misstep anyone takes is a wipe

kind talon
hollow river
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It’s probably better on later reclears etc

fallen arch
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That for me is the definition of not fun

kind talon
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if i could spend a week

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just killin sylv

gusty mirage
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Sylv would be fine if they let it be a 9 minute fight instead

kind talon
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heroic and mythic

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every day

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and not just endlessly wipe

hollow river
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Heroic is boring as fuck

kind talon
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that would be fun

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its a vibe for me

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i like just sitting there smashing buttons

fallen arch
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This patch has burned me out so hard

kind talon
hollow river
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I just wanna get the best gear I can get

gusty mirage
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Don’t worry, wait until 9.2 where the final boss will be 18 minutes and every boss will require us to stop dps

hollow river
kind talon
gusty mirage
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Also more painsmith fights pls

fallen arch
hollow river
gusty mirage
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I want a boss where 100 of the 160 wipes were because dumb dumbs can’t avoid stepping in stupid

limber lion
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Painsmith still one of the best fights in the instance

gusty mirage
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You’re actually insane

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Are you drunk?

hollow river
kind talon
#

i agree

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that fight is awesome

limber lion
#

I enjoy personal responsibility fights

kind talon
#

esp after they fixed

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certain races not being able to play

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/ specs

gusty mirage
fallen arch
limber lion
#

Like Artificer was dog because it was different every pull because why not

fallen arch
#

It’s so bad in a guild where you have to prog carry 6 people

limber lion
#

Painsmith is the exact same fight

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Every single time

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It's the most scripted shit

balmy condor
#

@limber lion whispyrheart when are we getting married

gusty mirage
#

Yeah I can do without 60 wipes caused by my French Canadian shadowpriest screaming “FUK DIS SHIT GAME” because it’s hard to avoid spikes as a night fae priest apparently.

kind talon
obtuse ruin
#

are they removing slice and dice anytime soon?

limber lion
#

But yeh, we did end up wiping like 150 times on it as well because Door of Shadows is a bit too hard of an ability to press

balmy condor
kind talon
fallen arch
kind talon
#

cttc

fallen arch
#

It’s basically gone

kind talon
#

ez clap

obtuse ruin
#

o thought this was sub

limber lion
#

@balmy condor Blushtips

#

How about right now?

obtuse ruin
#

but I still stand by my hate for that spell

limber lion
gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

I logged a m+ run as sin I pressed slice once at the start, and then didn’t press it for 50 minutes

gusty mirage
#

Sign me up for that petition

balmy condor
kind talon
dense hamlet
balmy condor
obtuse ruin
#

it just feels weird after whole of bfa/legion to waste an opener gcd on snd

balmy condor
#

Waste

gusty mirage
#

No he just kept extending it after zoning out guys

#

Duh

dense hamlet
#

wtf was that

#

jet

limber lion
#

Hmmm

balmy condor
#

Waste a gcd

limber lion
#

Our best finisher

#

A waste

balmy condor
#

On a 1700 dps ability

obtuse ruin
#

ok not waste xD but to press it...

kind talon
dense hamlet
balmy condor
#

How does it feel different from rupture

obtuse ruin
#

I mean would it really be that bad to just make it passive

balmy condor
#

Just out of curiosity

hollow river
kind talon
gusty mirage
#

Sounds like assassination is your calling my friend

#

Come on down

earnest remnant
#

werent you saying you thought it was sub channel, just use the deathly cheese, then u dont have to "waste" the gcd in opener

obtuse ruin
#

I dont have anything to say :/

balmy condor
#

I mean I think disliking “hitting the button” is such a weird ass take

#

That the community has collectively bullied itself into

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Like it’s a buff you hit yeah

#

But why does it feel different from hitting like

#

Rupture

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Or feint

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Or anything

dense hamlet
#

maybe its the icon

balmy condor
#

People hit feint on abilities that aren’t able to be feinted, that’s an actual gcd waste but they believe in their heart that it works and feels great and it’s a great thing to do

limber lion
#

Same as some legendaries "feeling" worse than others when legit all of our legendaries are just boring ass passives that you'll never feel

balmy condor
#

But then turn around and complain that they have to hit a button every 45 seconds for 15% of their dps

#

And I’m like

#

?????

obtuse ruin
dense hamlet
#

you press feint? OMEGAKEKW

#

thats a gcd waste omegalul

balmy condor
kind talon
obtuse ruin
#

What im trying to say is that snd is something absolutely necessary but itd be like a nice qol change to just make it passive

balmy condor
#

Making slice passive through cttc has made a brain dead easy spec completely lack depth at this point

dense hamlet
#

it is passive

#

just press it once

kind talon
dense hamlet
balmy condor
#

I’ve stared at the rotation page on wowhead in hopes that I figure out how to present it better

#

And literally I stare at it

#

And I’m like

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It’s 4 steps

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I can’t explain it any easier

#

Maintain dots
Anything with a cooldown longer than 20 seconds, on cooldown
Envenom at max-1 cp

#

Oh

#

Sorry

#

3 steps

obtuse ruin
#

yeah

dense hamlet
obtuse ruin
#

ok I love snd

balmy condor
#

You don’t have to

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I don’t like it either

#

But I don’t like it because the alternative could’ve been something interesting

earnest remnant
#

i was a dumb bitch

fathom swift
balmy condor
fathom swift
#

ah

#

that's the thing you're supposed to use for it, it hadn't been added to the rogue ones yet

balmy condor
#

They made me sign some funny legal forms and then said “here’s a bbcode guide have fuuuuunnnnn”

fathom swift
#

ok

#

lemme see if i can find the template for it and send to you

balmy condor
#

Thanks

#

But also talent rework when this spec hasn’t changed in 6 years

fathom swift
#

just finishing dinner then ill find it

thin trout
#

Guys how I am getting somewhat consistent into ph3 of sylvanas now, was wondering what the optimal cd usage is in p2 into p3, in ph2 on the first platform I use all my cds, when I reach the colossus vendetta isn’t up yet and it feels like a huge waste to use it on the colossus, how do u manage the cds going into ph3?

tropic ocean
#

just use on boss

#

unless you desperatly need add dmg

oak sky
#

personally i send cds on the first platform, flag colossus, then vendetta burn 2

#

theres probably other setups you could do

#

it just feels bad to hold your cds for too long

subtle tundra
#

That's how I was assigned. If your group relies on you to kill an add then it's different

thin trout
#

interesting i'll try that because i feel like my cds on the first 2 adds in platform one are aa complete waste

rustic juniper
#

Does anyone have, or know of, a weakaura that simply tells you when and whether to use Rupture or Envenom?

We've a rogue in our guild, an older guy who's struggling a bit - we'd really like to keep playing with him but we're trying to figure out stuff that helps

subtle tundra
#

there are plenty of rotation helping addons

#

idk their names, i know they exist

tropic ocean
#

herorotation/rotationhelper/hekili

rustic juniper
#

oh, right - that hadn't occured to me. TY.

spice spire
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
wind totem
normal mist
#

What's the diff between normal and HC painsmith? We cleared 5bosses yesterday, painsmith today but my r.l already thinking it will be hard and if we keep wiping for an hour we'll just do normal so people can get socket pieces. Is it that hard?

arctic hare
#

It has traps which have to be correctly placed in order for the raid to not wipe, cause them getting hit by spiked balls, you, or honestly anything will make them explode, doing raid wide dmg

dull crypt
#

The addition of those traps means there's an extra mechanic that requires good positioning, all it comes down to is you put traps opposite of the tank mechanic in p1 (so the hammer that explodes on the tank and causes the spikes to come your way) and in p2 and p3 you want to beat the spikes and put the traps down where the tank mechanic happened 5 seconds earlier, someone has to be assigned to explode these traps every 2 seconds (as you get a short debuff that increases trap damage taken after each explosion) and that's all, however if people are new to it they will definitely panic and a) place traps in the wrong spot or b) accidentally detonate one and wipe the raid

normal mist
#

Now I understand my rl.

rustic juniper
# normal mist Now I understand my rl.

We worried about HC much more than was mandatory - the raid damage is quite low. Raid members have to be very ready to move through the expanding spike wave in order to drop traps within the ring - dropping them outside will cause an instant wipe. IIRC, with the exception of the first, traps always align with a TB+spikewave. Then just have one ranged dps stagger-detonate them

keen mantle
#

Decided to upload my first sylvanas mythic kill from yesterday . To be honest when i was searching for rogue assassination pov there werent many so i guess it will be a good idea to upload the video

brazen zodiac
#

them fuckin daggers

#

i knew that shit was gonna be some extra shit lmfao

keen mantle
#

100% alacrity uptime pog

fervent rune
arctic hare
#

I learned that if you use something called omen with weakauras, it will tell you the exact amount of time remaining on bleeds and stuff

#

Quite useful for timing pandemic windows

lavish lichen
#

Omnicc as well

rustic juniper
prisma cypress
#

i wonder if that's better or worse than having a pandemic glow on your nameplate debuff icons

lavish lichen
#

Why not both?

arctic hare
lavish lichen
#

I use both

arctic hare
#

How would I go about doing this?

lavish lichen
#

Nameplates help with aoe yea

prisma cypress
#

i'm not some Plater wizard, i just imported someone elses profile

lavish lichen
#

Use plater

arctic hare
#

Lol, nice

lavish lichen
#

There are mods

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And scripts

prisma cypress
#

so idk how to do it lol

arctic hare
#

I’ll have to set that up when I get home, cause managing bleeds sucks in aoe when I try to do it

lavish lichen
#

Its really easy you pick any profile

#

And then go to scripts

arctic hare
#

Usuuuuually in the case of CT

lavish lichen
#

And import the pandemic glow script into your profile

arctic hare
#

Hmm, okay, I’ll have to set that up, I have threatplates atm, and need somethin new anyways

fervent rune
#

It’s going to be so nice when CT hits everything

prisma cypress
#

do we know if the reduction applies to the bleed, or just the initial hit?

#

for higher target counts

fervent rune
#

I’m not sure

gusty mirage
#

Did they finally uncap CT on ptr?

fervent rune
#

I think it would be tough to do the bleed

gusty mirage
#

If they did I can go take a look

fervent rune
#

Not to my knowledge

spice spire
fervent rune
#

I’m sure we would of seen something

gusty mirage
#

Sick. 9.1.5 soon copium

spice spire
#

But it’s not on PTR yet as oxi said

gusty mirage
#

Yeah I can’t imagine the spaghetti code would make it easy for them to tweak the dot damage in aoe

arctic hare
#

Whooo hoooo!

#

Lucky for me, im 1957 io now

gusty mirage
#

Uncapped CT with just the initial hit reduced = stonkS

arctic hare
#

This will be nuts lol

#

Imagine in the keys that you’re forced to pull huge amounts

gusty mirage
#

So like dos

arctic hare
#

Yeeeeee

gusty mirage
#

Outside ardenweald in dos we don’t really do huge pulls anymore

arctic hare
#

The highest dps in aoe I’ve ever hit is about 13 nearly 14 k

fervent rune
#

Yeah we have no burst like that just very consistent

arctic hare
#

But that was with flag lol

#

Now, I’m working on getting a new mh for outlaw in order to do better dps in aoe

#

Specifically 15’s and up

fervent rune
#

I’m still searching for a 252 for this spec

#

10 keys a week and not 1 weapon drop

spice spire
#

My dps is better on sin than outlaw but I’m an OTP.

vagrant obsidian
#

hey guys, can some1 told me which tea proc of theotar best? crit? for raid

fading wigeon
#

you can sim it, but they are all pretty close

fading wigeon
#

thats from the sub faq, just wanted to post how to sim it

vagrant obsidian
#

thanks!

prisma cypress
#

y'all think it's worth it to put a socket in the heroic sylv ring?

echo geyser
#

peeposhrug depends how much korthia u willing to do or if u can farm other better upgrades

prisma cypress
#

rather just use soul cinders for it tbh lol

echo geyser
#

Already made all legos u want at 262?

prisma cypress
#

dashing scoundrel and obedience 🤷

viscid spear
#

3 more Tokens of Merit for me 💩

echo geyser
#

Oh NA vault time

viscid spear
#

Edge of Night when

pure moth
#

Never

timid talon
#

about time DABNAROK

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shrewd helm
timid talon
#

thanksfriend ty

viscid spear
timid talon
#

The meme of never getting things to drop in raid and only in my vault continues

normal mist
#

Holy shit gz!!

timid talon
#

Thank you PU_PepeHappyCry

viscid spear
#

Hoping I have some luck tonight when he kill H Sylvie again prayge

strange python
#

i hope i get dagger from my 7th week i a row of opening at least 2 heroic rewards

timid talon
normal mist
#

You will @viscid spear , 99% sure

viscid spear
#

Haven't seen either the bow or quiver drop for our Hunters either, so we're due for SOMETHING

static rock
#

is iqd actually good for sin?

shell carbon
viscid spear
static rock
#

i have 239 amp and 252 phial and got 252 iqd in my vault

#

iqd sims better the fusion amplifier

viscid spear
#

Hmm, tough choice

#

But yeah, 252 iqd looks better in sims than 239 amp

slim pebble
#

That’s assuming 100 stat proc rate?

static rock
#

ive never even used iqd before

viscid spear
#

Think there's a WA that can help you know what it'll do when you hit it

#

I'm sitting over here with average trinkets and daggers SucksMan

shell carbon
#

noob question, why do we call assa sin?

echo geyser
#

Lazy abbreviation

#

AssaSIN

static rock
#

iqd gives 800 crit

#

whoa

spice spire
spice spire
scenic root
#

Ass is clearly the better abbreviation tho

spice spire
#

I’d recommend downloading the weak aura

static rock
#

alright just did!

#

do you hold iqd for cds or just send it on cd

dawn ivy
#

so heroic EoN is worse than a 252 off hand, i feel like that sounds wrong

spice spire
#

Send it on CD iirc

shell carbon
# spice spire Assa(sin)

oh ty, I'm new here, just learning my assa, missing the corruptions from bfa, but loving the necro Assa style

spice spire
#

Pretty huge

dawn ivy
#

even for sin thats odd

spice spire
#

From my 252 offhand kekl

dawn ivy
#

its also telling me to run my ocular gland now

spice spire
spice spire
dawn ivy
#

yeh

spice spire
#

Normal crit %?

#

Low 40s?

dawn ivy
#

nah almost 50 i think lemme log

spice spire
#

Damn

scarlet warren
#

but it depends on fight length n shit too

shell carbon
spice spire
#

Venthyr best for raid, but if you do both raid and m+. Necro is fine

#

I’m also Necro happybear

scarlet warren
#

venthyr is slightly better but i wouldnt worry unless u really wanna min max

#

yeah its also better for keys

spice spire
#

Also yeah if you just enjoy Necro

#

Okay Necro

scarlet warren
#

facts

cerulean nest
#

sims want me to take the Nine ring. what a world

dawn ivy
#

with no crit food/gland/tea im 47% crit

scarlet warren
#

i would have gone back necro by now but i enjoy sub too much with obedience to give it up

spice spire
#

It’s like 300 dps - I’ll take the L for the sick bone spike game play Prayge

spice spire
drowsy parcel
#

necro vs venthyr is fight dependant

spice spire
#

Link?

scarlet warren
#

bone spike for sin is far more interesting in my opinion

drowsy parcel
#

arguably in necros favor

spice spire
#

Idk about that. Necro is good for painsmith, remnant, soulrender, and idk what else

dawn ivy
#

telling me to gem haste tho i guess itll drop a lil

scarlet warren
#

and ur theotar?

#

that is kinda of weird

dawn ivy
#

yeh

scarlet warren
#

guess its the dr from being so high into crit

#

ur getting noticeably less crit from gear once ur past 40 i think

dawn ivy
#

i dont think its too noticable

#

maybe when we drop frost set we will respect DR again

scarlet warren
shell carbon
scarlet warren
#

eh it is 20-30%

#

id say sim def takes that into account

spice spire
soft shale
#

dr begins at 40% crit

#

so dont worry that much about it

shell carbon
#

I need a lot of research to get my Dashing Scoundrel recipe, no one in CN lfr

#

Guys, sorry, is there a guide for the frost crit sin build?

spice spire
prisma cypress
#

I don't think there's really much of a guide needed

spice spire
#

For the most part - as a NL, Doomblade will be better until a higher ilvl

gusty mirage
shell carbon
gusty mirage
shell carbon
#

i just did abomination factory for mounts

halcyon ermine
#

Hi there, trying out Asassination, after spending weeks upon weeks trying to get my 2nd dagger 😄 I only have 12% haste unbuffed and feel the mega-starved on energy, bareley keeping up with SD extension through Evenom. Should I forget it till I unbuffed get 20% haste or something? I dont feel this is working 🙂

gusty mirage
#

What talents are you running? What’s your opener? Your rotation?

#

If you’re coming from sub or outlaw, sin will feel super slow and there isn’t an achievable amount of haste that’ll fix that

dawn ivy
#

haste also doesnt REALLY affect your energy gain that much

prisma cypress
#

20% haste sounds like a lot

dawn ivy
#

nah 20% haste is average i think

gusty mirage
prisma cypress
#

i have like 14% at ilvl 245

dawn ivy
#

yeah not low-average, just kinda average

gusty mirage
#

But I also don’t have the KT shoulders pepehands

spice spire
#

I have 24% haste monkaW

gusty mirage
#

251 ilvl with 239 tara shoulders PEEK

dawn ivy
#

kt shoulders/second EoN are the final pieces for my build

spice spire
#

And 40% crit monkaW

gusty mirage
#

My mans parsley’s grinding

spice spire
#

Still running that sim btw

dawn ivy
#

im simming too lmfao

spice spire
#

Parsley’s hella juiced

gusty mirage
spice spire
halcyon ermine
#

I guess I just need to get used to the pacing, (outlaw before), running the ST rotation on icy-veins and 2,2,1,2,2,2,3 (for M+). But thanks 🙂

dawn ivy
#

simming nadjia as well just to see

spice spire
#

I do almost all my simming on mobile lmao

dawn ivy
#

i kinda like theotar regardless

gusty mirage
#

?????

spice spire
#

Parsley

gusty mirage
#

No swift sim?

#

You never sim me SAD

spice spire
#

No pepehands

#

I did the cheapo stuff

gusty mirage
#

Bruh just shoot me in the input

spice spire
#

You never asked

gusty mirage
#

I gotchu babe

spice spire
#

We’re 68% on final phase

#

We’re in this bearJAM

gusty mirage
#

Logged in on my phone, my work pc, my laptop, and my gaming pc

spice spire
#

I did a 5 million replace gems and enchants sim bearJAM

#

Just to have no gain bearJAM

dawn ivy
#

im wondering if Depper strat would make the heroi EoN offhand worth taking

gusty mirage
#

Whispyr got me hooked on simming and now I can’t get enough aPES_Snort

spice spire
#

Actual fiend

#

Demonic even

gusty mirage
#

Just feelcrafting rn though

#

I can look at it when I get home tho

spice spire
#

Oh I’m on the mfd life rn

dawn ivy
#

ngl i hate mfd so much on sin for some reason

#

i used it when i played outlaw in bfa

gusty mirage
#

It feels weird

#

I get it. I’m not a huge fan of it either

spice spire
#

@dawn ivy

#

I’ll do a non mfd run too

dawn ivy
#

i loved breath of the dying/mfd outlaw

#

was a big meme but fun

#

poggies

gusty mirage
#

Breath was so giga

#

Chaining snipes Comfy

dawn ivy
#

drestagath didnt know what happened to him

#

such a niche essence but so good for that fight

gusty mirage
#

Huge in keys too

dawn ivy
#

k yeah deeper/bs makes offhand favor EoN

gusty mirage
#

Makes sense, buncha free CP from BS

dawn ivy
#

it mighta dropped gland because i dropped it to 95% uptime but checking that

spice spire
#

I didn’t adjust gland at all

dawn ivy
#

i guess bs/ds makes nadjia haste/crit proc better than theotar

alpine latch
#

So ... Do I open my vault as Sin and try to get another EoN for Sub? Or do I open it as Outlaw and try to get a Pox from my m+ vault

dawn ivy
#

EoN gives more dopamine

lavish lichen
#

Yea i made the same decision today

alpine latch
#

Yeah, and my Obedience is crit/vers, so I guess that makes the most sense. Just curious what others would do in my situation

lavish lichen
#

Tldr it doesnt matter

alpine latch
#

What did you go with Dan?

lavish lichen
#

I aint get either kekw

alpine latch
#

Sure, it doesn't. But in my head it does. lol

#

lol

lavish lichen
#

HAHAH fuck

#

I went with ourlaw spec lol

#

Idk why just picked it

#

But yea same reasoning either 2nd dagger for sub or poxstorm

#

I have 246 pox but still 252 would be nice

hollow river
#

I’ve only gone outlaw spec for 1 vault and I got a 252 main hand

#

Never again tho

#

Another EoN more important

upbeat needle
#

I get 239 outlaw wep instead of 252 one this week, painsmith wep 😦

hollow river
#

Well if it simmed better

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

upbeat needle
#

😦

hollow river
#

Oh I thought you meant you had a choice for 252 as well

#

That’s still not too bad veinripper is good for outlaw

upbeat needle
#

already got 2 252 weps

#

for outlaw

hollow river
#

Oh

upbeat needle
#

and my sin daggers

hollow river
#

Isn’t heroic veinripper better?

upbeat needle
#

idk

#

gonna sim and figure out

hollow river
#

Sim it ye

upbeat needle
#

I just be gettin bullshit outta vault at this point

hollow river
#

Yeah I kinda gave up on m+

#

I need to get a phial

#

I’ve got 252 dagger/252 mace/246 EoN

spice spire
#

I legit have 4 upgrades from m+ vault now. Phial, arachnid cípher ring, IQD, and donina’s oozing shiv.

#

I d

upbeat needle
#

everything is like

#

0.1 for me

pure moth
#

Thats a tough one

upbeat needle
#

or 0.2

#

biggest upgrades come from bosses we haven't killed in raid yet so guardian and up

#

which I'm really hopin I get the first fusion amplifier when we kill it this week

#

ima be hype

#

@hollow river bro

#

it was fucking upgrade lmao

#

for outlaw

prisma cypress
#

are the boe legs best in slot until painsmith?

#

there are no crit/haste legs from m+, right?

bleak sun
#

Right

hollow river
#

Idk if I want to bother upgrading IQD

spice spire
#

Oh I meant 252

hollow river
#

It’s like +20-30 dps for me over my shit trinkets

#

Oh

spice spire
#

No 246 is upgrade for me lol

hollow river
#

Yeah

#

Same basically besides phial

#

And raid loot

chilly summit
#

i have 3 frost gems in my gear and it isnt saying i have any bonus? what did i do wrong?

hollow river
#

You need shoulders or legs from raid

#

To activate bonus

chilly summit
#

ok thank you

#

yeah mine are hands feet chest

#

ok i was like wtf

subtle tundra
#

i have 252 iqd and shadowgrasp but no phial

#

😦

shell carbon
subtle tundra
#

i do obv

shell carbon
spice spire
#

Got that phial with speed at 246

#

We’re zooming

burnt star
#

Still no 252 mh weapon or even a heroic sylv dagger

#

Gonna end the tier with 246/233 equip

#

Lets go

strange python
#

I currently have Lashing Scars, Well Placed Steel and Lethal Poisons. I want to try out Poisoned Katar for more AoE, but which potency conduit should be dropped?

spice spire
#

For aoe, probably lashing or WPS.

strange python
#

so WPS seems right because the Shiv nature dmg is only for that one target

#

thanks

#

well then lashing is like that too

#

I guess my question is which one is worth keeping for the boss fights? shiv or flag? I'm guessing flag in that case

oak sky
inland hull
#

Flag should be better for bosses, especially with lashing

strange python
#

thanks guys

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also would it be worth it for pure AOE to drop blindside for elaborate planning or is that a no-no-no?

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or for that matter master pois.

inland hull
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For aoe, EP should set you up better. The recommended builds in the FAQ are a great place to start

strange python
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this is for like mythics +10 or +12 at highest

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ok sounds good thanks

spice spire
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I’d probably choose WPS but it’s okay to do either logs

placid pagoda
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50+ PF runs and I’m a proud owner of phial

shell carbon
placid pagoda
oak sky
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