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#assassination
subtle tundra
fallen arch
SD last boss * with soggodon and frost guy debuffs is interesting too
ebon notch
skipping spaghetti hands and frost dude is monkaS
spaghetti hands 
winter vapor
aaaanyone all of a sudden getting the boss ability GFZ on Guardian flickering like crazy?
GFX*
plain onyx
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
silk thunder
Switching from outlaw to sin for m+. What stats do I put on zoldyck?
nimble thicket
Relic of the Frozen Wastes 246 ilvl. Thoughts on this trinket as a whole? I run a 252 Phial and have 246 ooze and 239 Glad but have really good stats. (With max frost set for raid)
Frozen waste just beats Glad on sims by about 40, just wondering if anyone has been in my place
balmy condor
Relic of the Frozen Wastes 246 ilvl. Thoughts on this trinket as a whole? I run ...
probably not great, but sim it
inland heath
for mythic+ zoldyck is always better than dashing?
slow marsh
what does lower keys have to do with zold
inland heath
zoldyck does more dmg under 30% hp in lower keys that frame of time is shorter
versed mica
I don't get that logic?
Higher keys means more health which means more time you have increased bleed and poison damage
Besides, I thought obedience was the best leggo for sin m+?
subtle tundra
Higher keys means more health which means more time you have increased bleed and...
also means they stay above 30% for longer
misty holly
Relic of the Frozen Wastes 246 ilvl. Thoughts on this trinket as a whole? I run ...
I tested Relic out a few times and it did awful damage. Really disappointing as the effect seems cool. 246 ooze is almost certainly better.
west geode
IQD246 not as good as 246 Phial and 239 Fusion amp?
arctic hare
I'm guessing not, but sim yo self
nimble thicket
I tested Relic out a few times and it did awful damage. Really disappointing as ...
Thanks, I haven’t actually used it yet because I didn’t believe it could… sim trap Relic
slow marsh
painsmith is so painful
gusty mirage
painsmith is so painful
my biggest piece of advice would be getting his health to 0% before everyone in your raid dies
hope this helps
slow marsh
thanks
slow marsh
my biggest piece of advice would be getting his health to 0% before everyone in ...
if you saw my group rn
gusty mirage
if you saw my group rn
ily
delicate raft
does it make sense to use the deathly lego opener or not worth since we use vanish in early rotation
balmy condor
deathly doesn't work on sin
at least the pre-pull stuff doesn't
the legendary itself obviously works
but it's trash
delicate raft
ok good to know, trying to pick up sin
toxic quail
Had a great day in M+. Managed to get to 2471. Knocked out 23 HoA, 22 Mists, 23 DoS and some other big boys.
balmy condor
bleak sky
2471 is BIG
toxic quail
Thanks man! Tomorrow my team is gonna try a 24 SD.
fallen arch
Big keys, nice
brazen zodiac
painsmith is so painful
it made me cry and eat 3 bags of ramen
if u want i can make u some
balmy condor
You all laughed
Said painsmith isn’t so bad whispyr
Painsmith very fun
And now look at you
You miserable slops
fallen arch
Guys a couple of days ago someone posted an assassination rogue video of a mythic Sylv kill, he had a WA/addon that showed a half circle as green when he was spread properly and red when he was not spread
toxic quail
I hate Pain. I’ve re killed him 3 times and every pull is just as bad as the first.
fallen arch
Anyone knows which one this is?
toxic quail
I think I have that one Oz. It’s a weakaura.
toxic quail
In P3 when I spread for veil if no one is range of me it’s green, if it’ll hit someone else it’s red. And the circle is like a timer for when veil appears.
fallen arch
Ye exactly
toxic quail
Is that what you mean?
fallen arch
That one
toxic quail
Ok bet. Let me log on real fast and share it.
its gonna be included in this pack. this is my SoD pack of auras ive either collected or made for certain bosses/mechanics.
but the circle will be in it at the bottom
everything is labeled very nicely so youll be able to find it perfectly
fallen arch
Great thanks a lot mate
toxic quail
youre very welcome! anytime man
balmy condor
Can you teach me how to not parse purple every kill
And then extend till sylv
So you never get to fix it
fallen arch
Idk maybe Cev has some tricks
spice spire
gusty mirage
Can you teach me how to not parse purple every kill
Yeah want my logs for my 3 parse? That’s not purple 
You asked for not purple 
smh
kind talon
LMAO
I JUST KILLED SYLV
AND DIDNT HAVE A SET BONUS FOR P1
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AINT NO WAY
stiff mural
Any assass rogues doing +22 or better keys atm? I'm having a hard time pushing more overall AoE damage and I don't know what to do about it 😦 I pull good ST in keys but i seem to cap out at 10k each dungeon where our hunter is like 12-13k and monk is like 13-14k overall 😦
oak sky
its ok if you have less overall
oak sky
you probably do prio damage on important mobs anyway right?
that speeds up the dungeon a lot
subtle tundra
Any assass rogues doing +22 or better keys atm? I'm having a hard time pushing m...
you should be able to get to 11k+ overall
charred wraith
I JUST KILLED SYLV
gz skip
spice spire
Any assass rogues doing +22 or better keys atm? I'm having a hard time pushing m...
11k shouldn’t be an issue. I’m just running 19s and 20s and can do it.
seli posted a 13k a few times, so it’s doable - more bleeds is almost always the answer lol and bigger pulls
As for comparing yourself to Hunter/monk. I just wouldn’t. They’re better classes for m+ rn. 9.1.5 may change that 
subtle tundra
As for comparing yourself to Hunter/monk. I just wouldn’t. They’re better classe...
copium
spice spire
But the uncapped bleed and poisons 
subtle tundra
you will feel it in some pulls but your overall wont go up by 2k from that xd
glass tulip
bigger pulls = bigger damage required / more health to do damage
higher keys = bigger pulls
viscid spear
Necrotic week post-9.1.5
"Pull a bunch of stuff, my FoK is uncapped!"
north basin
11k overall in m+ is how much in logs?
Coz i forgot my numbers ingame, but in logs its always lower by couple K
frosty bridge
Hear me out, I think I invented a new build for M+
I beat a WW in a PF23 with this yesteday
Nadjia: Lethal Poisons, Poisoned Katar, Lashing
fallen arch
I always beat ww’s ez
kind talon
tiny toxic blade
frosty bridge
Nono, hear me out
fallen arch
Poison katar ew
frosty bridge
In AoE you just spam FoK envenom
POISON CRITS M8
and CT to apply dot ofc
and ez
kind talon
in AoE you just spam fok CT rupture and envenom to keep up the dashing buff
but even then
fallen arch
And get energy starved
frosty bridge
poision go brrr
kind talon
zoldyck is good too
frosty bridge
once we got 2 leggos we go zoldyck dashing ez
frosty bridge
Dude trust me, 10.5k dps in pf23
dense hamlet
frosty bridge
Sims arent optimized for this build yet
fallen arch
Bad monk then
fallen arch
A monk that doesn’t do at least that in PF
frosty bridge
CRACKED
kind talon
nah
dense hamlet
kind talon
brain turned off
frosty bridge
Meh
fallen arch
It does that way better
kind talon
but like
frosty bridge
I gotta stop with this blasphemy
kind talon
nah
its not that
its just
why would u think that poison crit % is more worth than
1 min CD flag
with vers
15% vers is overall damage not just poisons
in aoe
and its more value to katar as well
frosty bridge
Math checks out 
kind talon
u can tho
oak sky
different builds can be fun
frosty bridge
It was a meme 23pf which wasnt an upgrade for my rio
kind talon
GG
frosty bridge
So I thought.. what if?
In fact i wasn't thikning what if
I just had wrong gearset equipped
limber lion
You can literally play a combination of any potencies
and you'll never feel the difference
Our potencies are shit
frosty bridge
Guess so
oak sky
i feel like i notice lashing but none of the other ones
limber lion
No it's not
kind talon
limber lion
lol.
kind talon
ohok
frosty bridge
I ran 3x potency tho
limber lion
That's just wrong
kind talon
ok
frosty bridge
In keys, guess it's better than dauntless
limber lion
They're both shit
frosty bridge
Was actually quite happy with how Sin felt in keys
kind talon
frosty bridge
Lel
frosty bridge
Kek
limber lion
They're both dogshit
and you'll never feel the effect of either
Katar being more overall is just incorrect
It might be, it might not be
and even if it is
it's literally max 10 dps
like
frosty bridge
Yeah, you wouldn't be able to easily tell which conduits you have a equipped after doing a dungeon
limber lion
you'll never see/feel the difference
ever
never
ever
like why are you putting so much emphasis on potencies
they're literally dogshit
You can play WPS/Maim and you'll do the exact same amount of overall dps
Your tank pulling differently
doing a different route
pulling bigger
smaller
packs lasting longer
packs lasting shorter
frosty bridge
Yeah, Sin literally has the worst conduits outta all 3 specs i guess
limber lion
cooldowns being up at different times
frosty bridge
At least you can feel CtO and Staccato
limber lion
all of that matters much more than a single potency ever will
When you look at your overall damage after a dungeon
I pray to fucking gods
that you don't think "god if only I used a different potency"
because it literally does not matter whatsoever
You should be thinking "god if only I used my cooldowns better" or "god I wish the tank pulled bigger packs" or "god I wish the fire mage would have used 1 less combustion throughout the dungeon"
like I'm done with all the minmax shit in m+
It's an environment with thousands of variables
You running a different conduit will never ever ever ever ever matter whatsoever
north basin
@frosty bridge u ran without katar with same monk after? Just to do reality check?)
frosty bridge
Haha
kind talon
why would u ever play venthyr without lashing
limber lion
You don't
limber lion
You always play Lashing
frosty bridge
It was my friends' alt, he is not a bad player, 2700+ rio
limber lion
Exactly
But you don't
You still play Lashing
You can literally play anything
and you'll never ever feel it
It's not about
you should be playing something else
oak sky
i feel lashing tbh
kind talon
yh
limber lion
but you'll never feel the difference after a dungeon
limber lion
i feel lashing tbh
bullshit.
Every single dungeon that you do
is different
you NEVER do the same amount of dps
limber lion
yeah we're talking about m+
oak sky
but i dont feel any of our other conduits like that
limber lion
your dps meter
is still literally the same
nothing changes
we're talking about dps here
not you pressing a button and getting an orgasm from it
like
come on
north basin
@frosty bridge i ran without wps but with lashing katar and deadlypoisons, i do 20-21 only. No difference noticed with/without wps on overall
limber lion
Poy changing his narrative out of the blue
You will never ever feel the difference in your dps meter
frosty bridge
<@399532949529296916> i ran without wps but with lashing katar and deadlypoison...
Haha, as Cev said, conduits matter veryyyy little
kind talon
and u started blowing up
kind talon
maim is dogshit
brazen zodiac
f
limber lion
I mean
you're true
because ALL of our conduits
are dogshit
You're right
Maim is dogshit
but so is katar
and lpå
and wps
kind talon
maim is the worst conduit
limber lion
Main 107 dps in Dslice, LP 181
WAAAAAAAAAAO
that's massive
My dick shrunks everytime I forget to take Maim off
damn
fallen arch
Sbs conduit dumb
limber lion
and now you say Maim is dogshit
because it does nothing in aoe
similar to how katar does nothing in st
kind talon
LP more ST than katar
limber lion
yes
limber lion
maim more st than katar
kind talon
yeah
subtle tundra
i started using wasteland property just cause everything else is just dogshit
kind talon
thats an objective fact
subtle tundra
for m+
strange python
limber lion
You're dumb
brazen zodiac
kind talon
lmao
strange python
that was mean :(
limber lion
It's facts
north basin
How to overdps afflilock/elem/hunter in m+?!!!! Why he is doing 35k after pack and i end up only with 15-17k. /whine
limber lion
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I can't believe I had maim mangle on
strange python
no, decaf smart 
kind talon
how the fuck do you take what i say and blow it out of proportion this much
its insane
bro
frosty bridge
i was just meming :(
kind talon
every time i chat here the past few months
oak sky
maybe take it to dms or something
limber lion
It's the only word you can use without getting filtered/moderated.
strange python
decaf knows lots about specs where success and high dps is more than just a participation medal 
limber lion
We're chillin
brazen zodiac
brazen zodiac
lmfao
limber lion
Man doesn't even play Assassination
brazen zodiac
always good to wake up to a good laugh
oak sky
you can have knowledge about another spec anyway, at least to some extent
limber lion
damn, I hope he wasn't playing Maim :/
oak sky
without playing it
limber lion
Definitely
strange python
me and decaf both play SOME assa
kind talon
i didnt even say anything that was incorrect
Cev just doesnt like the way i word things
strange python
I would play it more if it were objectively the better spec
kind talon
cause it seems like
limber lion
But we're chillin now
kind talon
i put more emphasis
limber lion
no worries
kind talon
on stupid shjit
limber lion
it's okay Poy
limber lion
we're chillin
kind talon
i get it bro
strange python
it's mean to call people dumb tho : (
strange python
and saying we're chilling has to be a mutual thing
oak sky
🙂
kind talon
im chilling man
strange python
are you sure 
kind talon
i can be an inflammatory person bro
i can respect cev here
im not 0 self awareneess at least
limber lion
It's okay, we're saying the same thing but in different words
north basin
We are at the moment when we know everything about spec.... boring times. So we need a lil fights here and there )
brazen zodiac
anyone else like sriracha sauce in their ramen?
frosty bridge
anyone else like sriracha sauce in their ramen?
yep
the red one tho
not green bottle
brazen zodiac
soy eggs and bouillon beef as well?
im a psychopath i put in chili garlic sauce too
and red pepper
and cucumber now
frosty bridge
Send pics
oak sky
bell pepper goes stupid
frosty bridge
Sounds quite good
brazen zodiac
next time i make ramen
oak sky
im an absolute bell pepper moncher
limber lion
Good damage control guys, but let's not stray too off-topic 
zinc frost
So what we concluded from that earlier convo is that conduits dog-shit
brazen zodiac
damage control?
kind talon
cev when swapping kyrian? :)
limber lion
So what we concluded from that earlier convo is that conduits dog-shit
Lashing is the only good conduit we have, others are very dogwater and you'll never feel the difference between them (on your dps)
limber lion
cev when swapping kyrian? :)
I don't even play the game anymore, so I guess never
kind talon
:(
oak sky
imagine not raidlogging 
kind talon
damn that sucks to hear
limber lion
But we're getting free swapping in 9.1.5 so I guess we're forced to level everything to 40+ anyways
brazen zodiac
this is totally on topic we discussing what conduits to equip while we cook :D
kind talon
do you raid still
brazen zodiac
f
fallen arch
Very last?
strange python
for good?
limber lion
Quite possibly
kind talon
strange python
fallen arch
Wait what
subtle tundra
its the 2 rogues im tellin ya
brazen zodiac
kind talon
strange python
decaf CF soon
frosty bridge
military service*
brazen zodiac
inb4newworld
kind talon
decaf CF soon
limber lion
its because of runscape right
Well, the main reason being that I just don't have the time to play the game anymore to the extent that is expected of me/where I want to be.
But yeah, I'll be playing group ironman when it releases
:P
kind talon
pop off king
subtle tundra
Can I be a cf too so I can quit wow as well?
kind talon
your violin is more important 💯
kind talon
nah bro
kind talon
my bad for arguing so long too
frosty bridge
WHOLESOME
kind talon
everyone has their bad moments
strange python
decaf took it bad tho
kind talon
but its the moments where we come together in love of the rogue class in world of warcraft that truly shines light on our lives
strange python
he has some serious
kind talon
and nothing else
strange python
lashing scars
fallen arch
U guys makin me weep over here
timid cloud
So what you're telling me is that you're going to....Vanish?
brazen zodiac
he's going rogue
fervent rune
how do you guys take on adds on M soulrender? funnel into boss or apply bleeds
brazen zodiac
on god if you type in soulrender in the search bar im sure you'll find loads of information
might be a lil bit before u get a decent and "correct" response
thorny pond
What does your guild need? Typically you just blast overseer and CT everything. My guild just needed boss damage so I stuck to CT on adds and just smacked the boss
sonic hornet
1 sharpening 1 oil or 2 sharpening for ass?
fallen arch
!oil
prisma monolithBOT
Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ
azure bronze
1 sharpening 1 oil or 2 sharpening for ass?
Best to sim it
Double sharpening for me is a bigger gain with the frost set then oil
gusty mirage
Double sharpening + agi pot is more consistent but yea sim it to make sure
gusty mirage
None of this average shit
Sorry can’t hear you from down here in mediocre land, can you speak up?
gusty mirage
Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/...
Copy and paste your simC input into an advanced sim and copy the pastebin stuff below it
If you want, DM me your SimC input and I can do it for ya
undone eagle
How is opener with CT when i prog sylvannas for example?
(im necro) so my opener is Sbs > SnD > mut > garrote > rupture > vendetta + shiv > vanish > mut > envenom and after? should i keep blast envenom until shiv is gone and right after CT or do i CT right after my first envenom ?
gusty mirage
Are you running dashing or doom?
undone eagle
Doom, sir
gusty mirage
Yeah you’d just keep up CT like you would garrote/rupture outside of shiv windows. So first CT after that initial shiv window
limber lion
How is opener with CT when i prog sylvannas for example?
Why are you using CT?
limber lion
Not really
grim tangle
they're wrong
undone eagle
really?
undone eagle
also logs full of Ct's why is that?
limber lion
huh
sinful cradle
Leave the aoe for other classes
undone eagle
ok then thanks i guess 😂
zinc frost
^
undone eagle
simple as that
sinful cradle
on prog you should defo play for full p3 dam as assa
limber lion
I've gotten multiple r1's on Sylvanas without ever touching CT
limber lion
Not exactly "filled with CT"
Anyways, just stick to Poison Bomb.
Progression especially, P3 is the most important part
undone eagle
oh dafuq , I was pretty sure i saw most used talent : CT some weeks ago 😂
limber lion
and using CT is just trolling there.
limber lion
Ye, you should run CT there.
limber lion
You don't honestly need to press CT ever in single target
Just use it whenever there's multiple targets
undone eagle
In my view i do envom 2-3 times with shiv activated and after CT
ah I see then, thanks
limber lion
ie. adds during intermission, the devoted adds, tank adds are close by or the spikes
undone eagle
I can just add CT on ST when shiv is cd i guess?
limber lion
On KT you don't have much time to be pressing CT on single target anyways
lavish lichen
You dont even as necro doomblade?
undone eagle
true
limber lion
You dont even as necro doomblade?
You do, but KT is just a different kind of an encounter
You would be clipping your CT too early
And wasting energy on CT
The gain is very minimal in single target
lavish lichen
limber lion
And a loss if you clip it
zinc frost
On KT you don't have much time to be pressing CT on single target anyways
I tried using CT in ST when I was necro in KT and just felt like it was pointless
limber lion
Yup.
frosty bridge
Haven't killed KT in a month or so, how do the changes change CDs?
limber lion
Haven't killed KT in a month or so, how do the changes change CDs?
You can pretty much use everything on cooldown.
undone eagle
I tried using CT in ST when I was necro in KT and just felt like it was pointle...
extremly wasting dps when u go down aswell xD
frosty bridge
Just drop Vendetta on CD I guess?
limber lion
Just making sure to hold the first set of CD's if they're needed for Remnant
frosty bridge
Especially if im not going downstairs?
frosty bridge
Vendetta resets after you finish Remnant right?
gusty mirage
They should’ve just kept that change in tbh
Kinda annoyed that they didn’t now that I’m progging KT
Holding CDs for phylactery is 
undone eagle
Since I play with frost bonus , and i currently have 41% crit 22% haste , the sockets im going to buy , should i go for haste or is it better to raise above 41% cirt?
crit*
twilit python
just sim it
limber lion
Since I play with frost bonus , and i currently have 41% crit 22% haste , the s...
Probably just more crit, but yeah, you should sim it.
undone eagle
Alright, cheers
lavish grove
Can anyone please share an Elaborate Planning WA? I'm not finding anything that works
And I'm not very good at making them 😦
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
terse talon
This one is pretty nice https://wago.io/SkavCyb47
lavish grove
I'll try to extract it from the packs see if it works, thank you.
hollow river
but mine is atrocity UI
quasi grotto
looking at logs of people with similar i lvl to me on gaurdian. the winds of winter damage is like 800 more than mine. we done similar amount of casts and fight time was similar. do i need to be tracking or doing anything around the buff?
hollow river
for sin? no clue what'd be best for kyr
not many kyr sin rogues. prolly have to sim.
limber lion
looking at logs of people with similar i lvl to me on gaurdian. the winds of win...
Nope, it's just passive damage.
sinful cradle
looking at logs of people with similar i lvl to me on gaurdian. the winds of win...
Could be because of crit rng on abilities
humble ginkgo
ill just settle for kleia for crit
limber lion
Sometimes you get lucky and it pops off, sometimes not so much.
quasi grotto
thought so. feels like im forever unluckly haha
lavish lichen
ill just settle for kleia for crit
yea kleia is lit
limber lion
No
humble ginkgo
ok
shell ivy
whats the script to sim boss that die at 50% for edge of night
drowsy parcel
do you play MFD?
depends
do you want to be a beta vigor cuck
or alpha male mfd gang
sinful cradle
isnt mfd a gain for venthyr only tho
limber lion
Yes sir
drowsy parcel
its a very small gain for me as necro
negligeble on single target but obviously gets better with resets
lavish lichen
they are kyrian
drowsy parcel
i know
marble bear
Theotar for M+ or for everything?
limber lion
M+ yes, Nadja for raids
shy dust
whats the script to sim boss that die at 50% for edge of night
enemy_death_pct=50
at the top of the sim in advanced
marble bear
do you keep CT up on bosses?
winter vapor
outside of shiv window
lavish lichen
not with dashing
slow marsh
Theotar for M+ or for everything?
Sim yourself to be sure. Triple potency Theo with reroll is better for a lot of people
marble bear
i use obedience
slow marsh
ill just settle for kleia for crit
I envy you tbh. I wanted to play kleia sin but it's kinda troll vs venth with as much as I play sin
shell ivy
`enemy_death_pct=50`
at the top of the sim in advanced
thanks
lavish lichen
I envy you tbh. I wanted to play kleia sin but it's kinda troll vs venth with as...
soon my friend soon
how much lower does it sim for you?
slow marsh
Like 2-300
lavish lichen
oooooff
signal badger
quick question on weapons, whats better a 252 or 2 sylv daggers?
halcyon zealot
typically a 252 dagger will outsim a 246 edge especially if you already have 1 edge equipped, ilvl usually wins for assa
arctic walrus
signal badger
the 246 Edge, and I did sim just curious about actual play
slow marsh
246 eon is good in off hand. 252 main hand tho
burnt star
252 mh with 246 eon is your best combo until u get mythic sylv dagger
But. For some of us. 252 mh OR 246 eon doesnt exist yet..
lime bluff
I tried searching for this but can I use a dagger and a sword on outlaw if I want to play it or is it best to use sword sword? PVE btw
oak sky
sword and dagger is i think good but it probably depends on which 1 handers you have
limber lion
Sword and dagger is best.
oak sky
also probably ask outlaw channel
limber lion
As long as you have 1 main-hand that is not a dagger, you're fine.
slow marsh
Sword and dagger is best.
Don't you mean fist and dagger
limber lion
Don't you mean fist and dagger <:2ez:587982296066424843>
Oh yup
Shoulda said 1h and daggy
limber lion
If you want to play the bleed only build then yes
slow marsh
I just want to use the fist weapon in offhand for extra bleeds
south hollow
Can assa use Jaithys for the passive of course
balmy condor
@lone junco a simpler time
oak sky
exsang gang
slow marsh
Wait whisp used to be orange
balmy condor
no
limber lion
Lol
balmy condor
it just updates everything
slow marsh
Oh I knew that
balmy condor
so if you look at my old messages, it's all orange
but I used to have a lot of fun
going into channels
and just asking really basic questions
slow marsh
Seems like something I would do
slow marsh
I will pick up where you left off
slow marsh
going into outlaw and doing the irisvsblood
What that
soft shale
bfa things
its like the sin vs sub now more or less easy to spark a civil war
premium fuel
covert tapir
what missives should i use for dashing scoundrel lego?
balmy condor
covert tapir
bless
slow marsh
What missive and slot would we use for the night fae legendary when it comes out
As in when they rework it and it becomes bis*
kind talon
slow marsh
Don't look at me like that
oak sky
legs crit haste
lone junco
<@!146753902350434304> a simpler time
It's been a while. But I finally retired. A tiny bit of arena left, But on to other things.
balmy condor
It's been a while. But I finally retired. A tiny bit of arena left, But on to ...
all the OG's bowing out
vestal wren
nice but that should be #off-topic
plain onyx
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
brazen zodiac
As in when they rework it and it becomes bis*
I've been dreaming about it for 3 weeks stpp
stop
tired sparrow
whats the target count for fok? i saw whispyr saying 4+ but i cant see any other info... wouldnt it be 3+? especially with pk
balmy condor
3 to spread poisons, 4 to generate
slow marsh
Also don't use pk, lethal is better
balmy condor
^
rocky sluice
I have a question about crimson tempest, not really sure how to ask properly
balmy condor
Sure
rocky sluice
if you decide to talent it and are only on one target, do you still use it?
single target rotation
balmy condor
Yes but only if you aren’t using dashing
rocky sluice
for example i'm thinking about staying crimson tempest for mythic sylvanas
limber lion
Do not use CT on Sylvanas.
balmy condor
Probably not a great idea
rocky sluice
ah okay, i am using dashing scundral
okay i'll stay poison bomb then, lol, may i ask why
rocky sluice
my thought process was to help with add damage
balmy condor
Yeah but it’s a dot
Literally 90% of your raid handles the adds better
No point trying to play into add damage when you’re shit at it
rocky sluice
true i think so too lol
balmy condor
And your single target suffers because of it
limber lion
my thought process was to help with add damage
P3 is the important bit and you literally get to press CT like 3 times in p1 and 5 times in p2 over the course of 15 minutes.
balmy condor
^
limber lion
Like, not worth it
rocky sluice
so just.. stay on sylvannas most of the time if I can?
balmy condor
That’s your job yeh
rocky sluice
word lol
rocky sluice
I appreciate the advice
balmy condor
Cause those last long enough to snipe a rupture
But otherwise Just fok for cp and dump into sylvanas
rocky sluice
sounds good
fading wigeon
Yes but only if you aren’t using dashing
On dormezain doi only use CT during adds if I'm using dash? Or should i.keet CT on dorm too?
balmy condor
Only on adds
hollow river
i tend to keep it up on Dorm during dance if i'm not cloaking or something to stay on him.
idk if thats proper tho
fading wigeon
Ok thank you
limber lion
It doesn't really matter either way honestly.
rocky sluice
what do you use personally @balmy condor .. shadowcore+phantom or sharpenstones+spectral agilty?
balmy condor
agi double stone
cba carrying different potions and different oils and shit for maybe 5 dps
fire and oil sucks in m+ so no point imo in carrying them for some margin of error maybe it rngs into 15 dps min-max
slow marsh
It can be like a 40-60 DPS swing depending on what you're using but yeah still less than 1%ish
But you can always sim it yourself
!oil
prisma monolithBOT
Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ
slow marsh
@rocky sluice
hollow river
ye but phantom fire also has a tad of rng to it
stiff mural
i love phantom fire it's sexy
balmy condor
it adds a near identical amount of damage, but with more rng, and loses with more targets
I fail to see why anyone would ever use fire pots
stiff mural
I was surprised seeing 294k overall in a +22 halls just from phantom fire. It was the most outrageous amount my team has seen the other night.
balmy condor
and an agi pot would've done more
oak sky
The invisible strength
slow marsh
I fail to see why anyone would ever use fire pots
If they're outlaw 😁
balmy condor
If they're outlaw 😁
then what
slow marsh
Use fire pot
balmy condor
why
slow marsh
Why not
I just do what sims say
I have no brain I only do what my 5 min patchwerk sims say
ember mural
balmy condor
I have no brain I only do what my 5 min patchwerk sims say
yeah I mean I get it
but why is fire so good for outlaw
oh
nvm
of course it is
they have like 15 things that aren't whitelisted
oak sky
Like things that proc it?
hollow river
like damage amps
ancient peak
is it worth applying rupture and garrote to an orb right when it spawns on nerzhul for energy?
balmy condor
yes
ancient peak
cool thanks
slow marsh
they have like 15 things that aren't whitelisted
Yeah outlaw kinda sus
hushed dirge
Got my second 246 Edge of Night off of a sylvanas drop
full tendon
I can't get one 😦
brazen zodiac
Got my second 246 Edge of Night off of a sylvanas drop
you just made about 35 rogues cry
@obtuse robin how's your edge of night doing :(
just think if i didnt invite you, you might not have it :(
violet jackal
We should 15 man sylvannas with 10 rogues
full tendon
Prob better than the 10 hunters I normally run my hunter with
brazen zodiac
We should 15 man sylvannas with 10 rogues
i did this and it was hilarious as fuck
like 5 rogues got the drop. not me tho :(
full tendon
That's sad af
brazen zodiac
probs wasnt 5 but u get the idea lmfao
obtuse robin
@brazen zodiac its doing pretty good in my bag while i play new world
brazen zodiac
i hate u
dude my bfs governor raised the taxes after losing their first war
based move
obtuse robin
u playing ?
brazen zodiac
nah bf is tho
i play when hes offline cuz family share but hes never offline so XD
upbeat needle
<@!237309274500497408> its doing pretty good in my bag while i play new world <:...
Wylin
I got new world been playing it too
Game is dogshit im very disappointed
hallow sage
I got new world been playing it too
just refunded after i realised that in the last 2 hours i spent 30 mins fighting things and 1 1/2 hour running around, waiting on respawns and hitting trees
zinc frost
just refunded after i realised that in the last 2 hours i spent 30 mins fighting...
Fighting the same things every zone* fixed 
fallen arch
you just made about 35 rogues cry
Doesn’t matter, sub boys exclusively
brazen zodiac
man my elvui profile just reset
and i cant figure out how to see if i have a save file in the wow folders or not
f
spring sand
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
brazen zodiac
all my weakauras are gone too lfmaoo wtf happened
hollow river
all my weakauras are gone too lfmaoo wtf happened
Yeah some people keep a back up of their add ons folder
hollow river
The back up?
You have to like, make a copy of your add ons folder and move it somewhere else
brazen zodiac
so say my shit got fucked by a corrupted save file i basically just get owned right
brazen zodiac
how do i do that
hollow river
Asking the wrong guy
brazen zodiac
i kinda already fucked around fixing my profile so idk if thatd change anything
oh lmfao
brazen zodiac
my "invalid target" and other text of that nature aint showing up either lmfao
probs cause i broke something
f
hollow river
Oof
brazen zodiac
im so mad lold
hollow river
Wish I could be of more help
fallen arch
See it as an opportunity
To clean up your cluttered UI
It’s gonna suck for a day and then it’s gonna be better
brazen zodiac
i mean
my elvui was already perfect and fit to my standards
and adjusted for my poor vision took a few hours and lots of research cause its impossible to figure out what half the shit does even with their tool tips
oh well time to make it all colorful and shit to cope ig
oak sky
i swapped computers and all my stuff was in my interface file
fallen arch
Exactly
fallen arch
I fee like this is a ‘problem’ that Blizzard needs to address
Why do we need 284728 addons to make the game playable
fallen arch
Give us more options for customization
hollow river
Idk bro
brazen zodiac
make the game playable for the visually impaired
hollow river
Players have made stuff I think blizzard would never
brazen zodiac
half their settings are still kinda trahs for that shit
kind talon
trahs
hollow river
Shart
fallen arch
Harst
hollow river
Rasht
kind talon
Borscht
oak sky
addons will always offer more customization than the base game though
balmy condor
Off topkis
oak sky
oops
hollow river
oak sky
i won't finish my thought
fallen arch
Do it
balmy condor
Nah finish it
kind talon
balmy condor
Finish the thought
oak sky
i was gonn asay
brazen zodiac
whisper
balmy condor
fallen arch
Whispur
oak sky
blizz doesn't have the dev time to do every single thing addons can do
brazen zodiac
on top of that i fell down a flight of escalators today
hollow river
brazen zodiac
after having 2 police officers escort me half way down
cause i cried to them saying i couldnt go down in the first place
oak sky
like blizz could maybe make our health bars customizable like plater but we would never get the same level of functionality
balmy condor
Not escalator stories
hollow river
So I hear NF bad rogue cov 9.1.5
kind talon
like blizz could maybe make our health bars customizable like plater but we woul...
At the same time blizzard could try and incorporate some of the most used addons in to the base game and make it more accessible and better customizable
hollow river
At the same time blizzard could try and incorporate some of the most used addons...
They’ve done this before haven’t they?
oak sky
rio
hollow river
Just not often.
oak sky
i would rather they focus on the game
kind talon
Can’t wait for 9.1.5
oak sky
not with what they pay their devs
to live in irvine
but
this conversation
can happen another day
oak sky
kyrian sin has no reason to exist
hollow river
So do it 🙂
kind talon
No 🙂
kind talon
hollow river
Venthyr outlaw guud
kind talon
Shit in keys
hollow river
Venthyr sub guud
oak sky
anyway
kind talon
Sub in keys 
oak sky
necro sin should be good too
balmy condor
Sub in keys <:Cring:879404698900262912>
Better than law 
oak sky
i think venthyr and necro are both very fun though
hollow river
And Venthyr outlaw in top/spires ain’t too bad