assassination

[rapid talon]

I boost simply because I can play during the day

[slow marsh]

Idk I haven't gotten into it yet. I've just been flipping boes

[rapid talon]

Id give it a try

Easy to get started

But I would say find a good community

Boosting is only bad if the fellow boosters are

[slow marsh]

My guild is selling heroic 1-9 for 200k but it's going to guild bank

[gusty mirage]

we sell last 2 and each raider gets like 20-50k depending on how many buyers we have

[slow marsh]

What server are you on again ?

[gusty mirage]

Zuljin

[slow marsh]

Horde?

[gusty mirage]

yes sir

[slow marsh]

K xferring rn

[gusty mirage]

just take my spot too

so I can finally quit

we're progging fatescribe right now

enjoy that

[oak sky]

didnt you finish painer?

[gusty mirage]

yea

[oak sky]

why are you still tilted then?

[gusty mirage]

I'm not

[slow marsh]

We did 2nd week of pain this last week

[gusty mirage]

I just don't really enjoy the game rn

[oak sky]

fate is pretty fun to prog as long as it doesnt go on for toooooo many pulls

[rapid talon]

pain is next for us

[gusty mirage]

160 pulls to down painsmith, almost 30 to down guardian

it's going to go on for too many pulls

[rapid talon]

oof

[slow marsh]

We are on 67 rn and people still haven't figured out how the intermission works

[gusty mirage]

it'll start to click

peeps just have to not greed corners on the spikes

[oak sky]

our reclears are rough but we got guardian in 10 and fate in like 50

[slow marsh]

We have gotten 2nd set of balls in p2 so once they figure it out we've at least seen the whole fight

I'm just trying to figure out creative ways to keep my sanity until then

Ive done swap to sub on the fly challenge, wound poison challenge, no CDs challenge...circus music

I'm running out of options

[halcyon zealot]

i started messing around with keeping 5 stack alacrity up through intermission during prog while the brain dents figured out how to just do the basic movements

[west geode]

Im currently a Necrolord Ass Rogue. I blew My shards to max out my unholy set before Frost was determined better, working on my frost shards (rank 3 atm), would it be worth it to wait til i get my frost shards to rank 5 to switch to Venthyr. I currently have 33% crit. Top gear still says to run unholy necro

[slow marsh]

Yeah wait

You might be able to swap at r4

But I'd sim to be sure

And you'll need more crit too

Otherwise you'll just be venthyr uh which is also fine

[spice spire]

@west geode you just need more crit rn. 33 wasn't quite enough for me (also necrolord) and it didn't start until about 35ish. I'd level up your frost to be sure because eventually it will be a better

[west geode]

Thank you guys!

[kind talon]

Also

[balmy condor]

you're enough for me

[kind talon]

Rank 3 set won’t beat a rank 5

[spice spire]

Rank 3 almost beating my r5 rn

@balmy condor I wish

[oak sky]

Sussy

[balmy condor]

god having it that big

genuinely hurts my eyes

[oak sky]

i always delete when i send big gifs

it clogs up the chat too much

[kind talon]

Sorry

[spice spire]

how dare you

[kind talon]

[spice spire]

in this very serious moment

[next junco]

hey is there a big diffence between vent and necro/

[balmy condor]

necro is more cleave/aoe, venthyr is more single target

[next junco]

ok its just i dont like sub im just thinking of going back to outlaw for m+

[cedar lynx]

We did wipe at 90k hp

242 pulls so far, i'm going crazy

[hollow river]

At this point just back pedal off the edge bro o.O

We will all be out of pain smithy hell soon boys

[slow marsh]

lmao never catch me back pedaling bro

[hollow river]

Ah, another man of culture I see

I’m on the verge of running outlaw on the fly challenge

[slow marsh]

outlaw is nice for the acrobatic strikes tbh

but i dont touch balls so i just do whatever

[crisp sluice]

Are we going for Zoldyck or Doomblade for ST?

[slow marsh]

neither

[crisp sluice]

I'm not venth

and im not switching

[slow marsh]

you're like 4 months too late bud

[crisp sluice]

I know

[slow marsh]

dashing

[crisp sluice]

I was gone for 8 months

since january lol

[frigid kestrel]

Lmao

I thought you died

[crisp sluice]

xD

I quit right after SL came out lol

[frigid kestrel]

Roflmao

I saw, i looked at IO Scores and was like... WTF happened?

[slow marsh]

raid you go dashing frost set

m+ still zoldy

[strange python]

It takes so long to get embers 💀

I need a frost set but it’s gonna take me like 5 weeks +

Pretty cringe

[balmy condor]

the chad maneuver

[hollow river]

did your guild kill it whispyr?

[balmy condor]

maybe tomorrow

@abstract leaf right? tomorrow for sure

[drifting cloud]

for sure

[brazen zodiac]

for sure

[balmy condor]

for sure

[abstract leaf]

idk i'm looking for a rogue who can play the hidden meta sin swords to help fan of knives as many balls as possible

[balmy condor]

[abstract leaf]

i'm banned in like 5 seconds

no way around it

[balmy condor]

if you give me the veinripper that drops from the mythic kill

I'll play double veinripper on sin

whenever you'd like

[spice spire]

Toxic af

[abstract leaf]

I think there's a couple of DH's that would blow up a hospital if that happened

[brazen zodiac]

i am excited to do painsmith on Wednesday whisyper

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

wrong.

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

[clever kindle]

like taking the legendary bow from a hunter for the stats

back in the day

[brazen zodiac]

painsmith has always been my favorite boss

[abstract leaf]

whispyr is one of those guys that loves to hate this game

[balmy condor]

incorrect.

[abstract leaf]

vita, don't listen to him

[brazen zodiac]

LOL

[balmy condor]

painsmith is not your favorite boss

the fumes from the lava

[brazen zodiac]

sir he is :C

[balmy condor]

is rotting your brain

wear your mask

[brazen zodiac]

jokes on you i inhale that shit for breakfast

oh wait maybe you're right

[abstract leaf]

whispyr, are you the kind of guy to stand behind someone at starbucks and order for them, too?

"you don't want that latte, you're brain damaged"

[brazen zodiac]

LOL

idk i was watching ur stream whisyp it didn't seem too bad

[abstract leaf]

I get why whispur hates it, he's told me

[brazen zodiac]

u on the other hand looked like u were about to dye ur hair again and go rogue

[abstract leaf]

but genuinely speaking I love the boss and the painful prog that comes with it

[obtuse robin]

something is hundo p rotting vitas brain

[brazen zodiac]

go rogue ha get it i hate myself

stfu black

i drink too much that is for starters

ngl black 99% of the time we call im either drunk half asleep or

[obtuse robin]

get fucked

[brazen zodiac]

o right right

[obtuse robin]

[muted bramble]

So question, crit >> other stats apart from agi for frost right? I know -Sim it, but as a general rule because it's hard to Sim higher ilevels of the pieces I have that I can upgrade with Valor. It's hard to tell what crit % is the tipping point for me with my current bits

[brazen zodiac]

[obtuse robin]

safe space

[brazen zodiac]

i don't feel safe with u here

[balmy condor]

you know, I actually have a starbucks on campus, and the only thing I have ever ordered from there, is a venti hot chocolate, because I don't like coffee. So much so, they see me in the line, and will make my hot chocolate before I even order

that's called consistency

[obtuse robin]

not my problem u insecurwe with ur parses

[balmy condor]

correct

[brazen zodiac]

my vanish insecure that why he was out there all alone LMFA9

[abstract leaf]

that's called getting you to leave quicker

[balmy condor]

it's about 45% when people usually start seeing other stats

[balmy condor]

[abstract leaf]

IM SO TOXIC IM SORRY

I LOVE YOU

ILL STOP

[balmy condor]

I'm reporting you to HR

[muted bramble]

Well I'm miles away from 45% so I'll stack that crit. Thanks

[brazen zodiac]

black ngl i used Theo and it felt kinda diff

idk

[abstract leaf]

legit though got that apple crisp machiato cause there was nobody in line at starbucks, thought why the fuck not

like 45 minutes ago not even kidding

That was a waste of $5

[brazen zodiac]

also whisper uses Theo as sub and nad as sin so ur trolling

[obtuse robin]

i guess ill keep doing well then

and helping my healers

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

i wish there was a dummy in the maw or somethin ffs

[balmy condor]

get a turnip

[brazen zodiac]

when i used Theo on the rares tho in korthia it did kinda fe-

oh my fucking God

km RE

how do i get one

[brazen zodiac]

SHUT THE FUCK U0

[obtuse robin]

lmao

so lonely

nothing in sight

[brazen zodiac]

show the vanish LMFAO

[obtuse robin]

i couldnt find it

[brazen zodiac]

dude im based as fuck udk what to tell u

it vanished

ha get it

i absolutely hate my existence

[obtuse robin]

sike bitch

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

where do i get one and good idea

fuck u black

[balmy condor]

https://bfy.tw/RgfM

[brazen zodiac]

ooo ty

[dark token]

@balmy condor real or fake whispyr https://i.imgur.com/T5X9lQW.png

how much for the sylv dagger if it drops

[spice spire]

fake

[balmy condor]

definitely not me

[spice spire]

no shot he's a digital athlete

[dark token]

[halcyon zealot]

lmao

[balmy condor]

I don't have an accent in my name

look at my discord name

[dark token]

oh i didnt notice

[spice spire]

not enough spspspsp for the catboy memes either

:/

[balmy condor]

:/

[slow marsh]

go rouge

[brazen zodiac]

go rogue

[balmy condor]

@dark token get hosed kid just btw

[dark token]

?

[balmy condor]

?

[dark token]

i got the soulders

11th week

im very happy

https://i.imgur.com/Ip9k8VG.png

are you actually in this run

[balmy condor]

[dark token]

playing sub

[spice spire]

oh definitely not him then

whispyr is an OTP

[dark token]

heroic kt parses

[balmy condor]

[gloomy knoll]

kt parses

[dark token]

wdym this is no pad whatsoever

https://i.imgur.com/TWJztz8.png

[gloomy knoll]

crimson tempest on kt

[dark token]

crimson tempest on sylvanas is the real play

[gloomy knoll]

crimson tempest on sylvanus

[balmy condor]

I find

all these gains for you

and you don't even use them

[dark token]

wdym

[gloomy knoll]

hey i used mfd

[balmy condor]

just straight spitting in my face

[dark token]

i havent played wow in like

3 weeks

[gloomy knoll]

last raid

[dark token]

raid logging

[balmy condor]

[gloomy knoll]

mfd on kt is pog

[dark token]

cba putting that much effort into reading pins and pressing marked for death

[balmy condor]

smh

[gloomy knoll]

sheeesh

[balmy condor]

@dark token I FORGOT MY TEA

[dark token]

I always forget tea when playing sub

[balmy condor]

can blame me for the speed on that kill I guess

[ebon notch]

@obtuse robin wtf was vitas pot

[brazen zodiac]

shut up

im coping

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

i lagged on pull OK

[ebon notch]

did you get into an intermission and like

[brazen zodiac]

i thought i pressed it

then i got mad and pressed it

[ebon notch]

"fuck i need to use this now or i miss a use"

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

[obtuse robin]

pot she decided to use in the misddle of the fight with no cds or lust

same with vanish

[brazen zodiac]

suck my cock

ima get this mount from this mist world boss

just u watch

[obtuse robin]

[ebon notch]

what was that vanish for also

[brazen zodiac]

copium

[ebon notch]

what were you coping from???

[brazen zodiac]

my therapist doesnt make enough for me to answer that question

let alone u

[ebon notch]

poor @obtuse robin

how has he been coping

[obtuse robin]

1 hour

[brazen zodiac]

dude my computer freezes on every pull

it sucks

[obtuse robin]

thats all

oh yea she plays o na laptop

[brazen zodiac]

i sent him money for this therapy session

its ok

[ebon notch]

uninstall all your hentai weakauras

[brazen zodiac]

lfmao

[ebon notch]

wait ur a chick?

[ebon notch]

im getting mixed vibes

[brazen zodiac]

yes

uh

its 2021

is my response?

[ebon notch]

not 2021 enough for this

[brazen zodiac]

stop

before they pin it

and i get memed for lfie

"list of things not to do"

[obtuse robin]

clear that up and ur parse good for nine

i promise

[brazen zodiac]

still kinda fuckin up the opener and not using vendetta

[halcyon zealot]

wait was this some MA vanish with dots ticking tech

[brazen zodiac]

feels weird as fuck

[halcyon zealot]

or

[brazen zodiac]

no i just aped out

[halcyon zealot]

nice

[ebon notch]

its the "oh shit fuck i missed pot" tech

[brazen zodiac]

im screaming

[ebon notch]

thats probably why you missed the pot lmao

[obtuse robin]

how u do u fuk up not using ven on opener

[brazen zodiac]

what

[ebon notch]

"guys i did a 10k opener what am i missing???"

[brazen zodiac]

SHUT

up.

[ebon notch]

its just the pot LMAO

[brazen zodiac]

@balmy condor help

how do i delete logs

[obtuse robin]

what does this mean

[brazen zodiac]

how do i delete my character

i told u they dont lust on the mini bitches

[obtuse robin]

i thought i wouldnt have to go here but

[brazen zodiac]

stop

stop

[obtuse robin]

you might to macro ur entire opener

fuk it

[kind talon]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

[kind talon]

Sheeeeeeeeeesh

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

dude its too hard

idk

[ebon notch]

its ok the pot wasnt the only victim

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

[obtuse robin]

yo

lmao

thats on the same fight to

unlucky

[brazen zodiac]

dude

[ebon notch]

AHHAHAHAHAHAH

[brazen zodiac]

the nine was my only ape fight ok

the rest were good

admit it

.<

[ebon notch]

did you press vanish and just sit there like

[oak sky]

🧢

[obtuse robin]

ur improving yea

[ebon notch]

"fuck what do these buttons do"

[brazen zodiac]

ngl sometimes i do just be like

"shit how do i play rogue"

[ebon notch]

yeah same

[brazen zodiac]

u make fun of my nine kill

but u dont talk about my top 10 fatescribe kill

:C

[dark token]

fatescribe parsing

[obtuse robin]

kinda misleading parse tbh

[brazen zodiac]

yeah absolutely

[ebon notch]

ur top 10 fatescribe kill was pretty pog

[brazen zodiac]

but

[obtuse robin]

ignoring runes

[dark token]

imagine being at the pity of whether u get orbs or not

[brazen zodiac]

i just remember doing 5k on that shit

[ebon notch]

wait why

[brazen zodiac]

and being like shit i suck

[obtuse robin]

she ignores ruines

[brazen zodiac]

so feelsgood doing more

[ebon notch]

NO

[dark token]

fatscribe parsing more cringe than KT parsing

[brazen zodiac]

is all

ALSO YEAH DAPS

[ebon notch]

YOU LISTENED TO MY STRAT

[brazen zodiac]

I PULLED A U

[ebon notch]

FFS

[brazen zodiac]

AND IGNORED

LMFAOO

LMFAOOOO

BRO WE HAD LIKE

30 PEOPLE

I THINK IDFK

[ebon notch]

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS

[brazen zodiac]

im based idk what to tell u bro

[ebon notch]

@obtuse robin kill it with fire bro we made a monster

[obtuse robin]

[brazen zodiac]

YOU MADE a monster

black is innoc-

[brazen zodiac]

mayne not innocent but u did it

[ebon notch]

this is me dodging responsibility

[obtuse robin]

yea those wil be good mems for a couple weeks

[ebon notch]

its a solid template

can you link the log btw

i gotta see what happened

[brazen zodiac]

god damnit

no

plz

[ebon notch]

@obtuse robin

hmu homie

[brazen zodiac]

i have feelings plz

[halcyon zealot]

a picture really is worth a thousand words, i might make that my banner tbh

[obtuse robin]

hol up let me hook up vita first

/castsequence reset=15 Mutilate, Slice and Dice, Mutilate, Garrote, Flagellation, Rupture, Vendetta, Inscrutable Quantum Device, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vanish, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate

there u go

lmao

[kind talon]

[brazen zodiac]

FUCK

OFF

[ebon notch]

[brazen zodiac]

ta, Inscrutable Quantum Device, Blood Fury, Shi

i dont even

use IQD

and im a goblin

LMFAO

[obtuse robin]

yea just delete those ur be fine

[kind talon]

/castsequence reset=15 Mutilate, Slice and Dice, Mutilate, Garrote, Flagellation, Rupture, Vendetta, Inscrutable Quantum Device, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vanish, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom, Mutilate, Mutilate, Envenom,

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[brazen zodiac]

/castsequence reset=deleteaccount

[ebon notch]

/castsequence reset=15 Mutilate, Slice and Dice, Mutilate, Garrote, Flagellation, Rupture, Vendetta, Inscrutable Quantum Device, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vanish, Mutilate, Envenom, , , , , Potion of Spectral Agility, , , , Vanish, , , ,

@obtuse robin updated

[obtuse robin]

holy shit

[brazen zodiac]

flmaorinekwmr

[obtuse robin]

oiajrhweQOIR

[brazen zodiac]

nim scremaing

[kind talon]

[ebon notch]

LE CHIIIIIIICHE

[obtuse robin]

you hate to see it

[ebon notch]

link log

[brazen zodiac]

bouta go hit a turnip in in the maw for an hour

[ebon notch]

go hit the boss instead

[obtuse robin]

i cant find it

sh does so many raids

[brazen zodiac]

its the last one i did

[obtuse robin]

oh

[slow marsh]

wtf is going on here

[brazen zodiac]

yesterday

iceblades

hold me

:C

[ebon notch]

we made a personalised and tailored cast sequence macro

to suit vitalitas's unique gameplay patterns

[slow marsh]

oh

[ebon notch]

it even involves pooling

[slow marsh]

ok well then

proceed

[kind talon]

ok

lets

stop

[slow marsh]

some qt gonna come in here and lay down the law

[obtuse robin]

kinda wierdchamp

[brazen zodiac]

someone's gonna come and copy that tbh

[ebon notch]

[brazen zodiac]

BLACK WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST NIGHT OK

[obtuse robin]

true

[brazen zodiac]

VENDETTA AFTER FLAG RUPT

[obtuse robin]

heres one we didnt go over tho

[brazen zodiac]

oh no

is tht also the nine...........

[obtuse robin]

yea wer alot of work to do

nah

eye

[brazen zodiac]

oh that might be ont he add

on the add

[slow marsh]

but where is your vanish

[brazen zodiac]

it..........vanished.....?

[obtuse robin]

i have never ven on a add

[slow marsh]

i do

[obtuse robin]

really

[brazen zodiac]

on mythic

[slow marsh]

on eye mythic yeah

[brazen zodiac]

at least idk

[slow marsh]

flag the first one and vendetta the 2nd

[brazen zodiac]

i did that run like it was mythic cause i was bored

[ebon notch]

the only one where vendetta lines up with an add is the one before p3 but i save it for lust

[slow marsh]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rY2GgFLVy7Xnx8cd#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=12

[obtuse robin]

yea i save for lust

[slow marsh]

i could've played cleaner but the first add set you def flag 1st and vendetta 2nd

unless your group is blasting it and you have to stop dps then i guess yeah hold

[obtuse robin]

idk about def

[balmy condor]

this is legit painful

why did I tab in

[halcyon zealot]

masochist?

[obtuse robin]

hehe

[brazen zodiac]

u thikn ur in pain

ive been getting my ass roasted over apit for 20 minutes

[slow marsh]

yeah

[brazen zodiac]

and on top of that i didnt get the mount from this raid >.<

[halcyon zealot]

i forgot 9 even dropped a mount i think we've seen maybe 2 total

[obtuse robin]

i got it

and didnt notcie till after raid

[brazen zodiac]

wasnt talkin about nine but yeah ive only ever seen like 3-4

looks cool af

[ebon notch]

i dont think you ever stop dps on the eye do you?

[slow marsh]

you might have to if you are doing the full swap strat

[ebon notch]

oh shit

you shouldnt have to anymore cause of how much gear everyone has

[slow marsh]

whole raid goes on left eye then lock gate to 2nd at 4 stacks and ranged finishes off 1st one

yeah you shouldn't have to

but

here we are

[ebon notch]

yeah thats how we killed it first time

was a pain in the ass

[slow marsh]

that's why i just flag 1st and vendetta the 2nd. gotta do what you gotta do

[dark token]

guardian always my worst boss

[ebon notch]

just hit boss bruh

[dark token]

this sims better than mfd or vigor for me

https://i.imgur.com/p4fslwy.png

[ebon notch]

on updated apl?

its not on nightly yet

[oak sky]

fate reprog

[noble umbra]

how many targets does spamming CT over evenom become worth?

[oak sky]

no

[dark token]

0 targets

[ebon notch]

if CT is up, keep envenom buff up and rupture shit

[dark token]

The only situation that is useful is if you got stuck behind a wall out of melee range but in fan of knives range so you just spam fok CT until you run out of energy and cry

Aka never

[ebon notch]

does CT do on hit damage also?

or is it only dot

[drifting cloud]

wasnt there a target count in bfa where it did

so maybe in 9.1.5 it does again

[gloomy knoll]

whispyr simmed ct spam a bunch last tier and it wasn't worth iirc

maybe with new target caps at like

a fuck ton of mobs it might be

just from the on hit damage

[ebon notch]

i mean best thing about the target cap is that the bleeds and poisons get applied

[gloomy knoll]

is also envenom buff for poison applications though

[ebon notch]

because they wont reduce that damage

[gloomy knoll]

yea

[slow marsh]

with uncapped spamming CT is even worse than it is currently

that being said wtb black powder

[ebon notch]

i can offer you some white powder if you want

[slow marsh]

no ty I made a promise to DARE

i even got a cert for it

[ebon notch]

LMAOO

[drifting cloud]

sorry to tell you but that cert expired

[slow marsh]

I go to the local elementary school and renew it every year

[ebon notch]

[slow marsh]

I also renew my promise ring vows at my church every year

even though i'm married

i live a live of chastity

[ebon notch]

life*

[slow marsh]

yeah that one

i'm more excited to see what other talent changes they are gonna make for us or if that was just another empty promise

[gusty mirage]

[dark token]

Black powder would actually wanna kms on sin

[ebon notch]

good one

[noble umbra]

wait

[dark token]

If there is one finisher we are lacking it should be something like BTE to buff your crit for a certain amount of time

[ebon notch]

no dude just make CT and PB baseline

then make a talent that makes PB or CT giga

[dark token]

That does literally nothing lol

[noble umbra]

ive seen alot of logs on soulrender mythic

[slow marsh]

I would cry if they made CT baseline

[noble umbra]

durings adds people just spam FoK and CT

[ebon notch]

depends on how strong the talents are

[noble umbra]

so its better to rupter like 2-3 then just evenom?

with 1 ct ticking?

[slow marsh]

Well you fan on 4+

then you CT on 2+

and you rupture / garrote up to 5

So that would all just apply on soulrender

If the monk and hunters haven't obliterated them by that point that is

[noble umbra]

well ye

ur not getting 5 garrotes off

[slow marsh]

5 garrotes/ruptures

total of 5 bleeds

[noble umbra]

i havnt seen anyone drop 5 rupters on the agonizers tho

[slow marsh]

well then i guess just do whatever you've seen people do lol

[noble umbra]

ok

[drifting cloud]

just proc frost set crit on double branded mob

soulrender is whatever for assa

if you do 11.5k youre gonna blue parse, if you do 13.5 youre gonna 99

and when youre killing the boss in less than 6:15 youre losing a vendetta cast

[fleet anchor]

Should be in tomorrow's (tonight's) nightly build. I'm just testing a few more things and will check in shortly.

[slow marsh]

My group has necro monk that just smashes the small adds so I just garrote what i can, throw up CT and funnel into boss

[ebon notch]

np i was just clearing it up for someone who asked, thanks for your work

[fleet anchor]

Build should be in 2-3 hours

[slow marsh]

just in time for vault sims yay

ty Koji

[balmy condor]

did you find any better variations

[fleet anchor]

Mostly I was trying to get DS doing things properly, I also found a 0.2% improvement due to avoiding shiv timing overlap

So you get something a little bit more like this for the opener. It's minor but simple so figured why not.

[balmy condor]

yeah okay

[fleet anchor]

basically just !cooldown.shiv.ready

[balmy condor]

on the mfd line?

[fleet anchor]

Because we're always gonna unconditionally use Shiv, so just a waste of CP for no reason

Yeah, I'd imagine it could be a very slight gain for non-Venthyr also

[ebon notch]

isnt this the opener you suggested before @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

it is

the apl in the pinned sim doesn't quite achieve that

but I didn't have time to find something of value on the fly

[fleet anchor]

Anyway, will have it checked in momentarily

Alright should be in now

[sudden canyon]

inb4 no phail, sylv dagger, or 252 dagger

9 weeks, couldnt be that unlucky could i.

[balmy condor]

for the brother friends

[sudden canyon]

GL to all my NA friends

[fleet anchor]

I haven't gotten a single Sylv item since day one on the patch in any difficulty until this week on Mythic and then I got the belt.

So yes, could be that unlucky

😄

[nocturne geode]

same killed sylv on heroic since week 1

havent seen a single dagger drop

or even a normal dagger lol

super unluck

[sudden canyon]

oof

[fleet anchor]

Dagger acquisition really is awful

[sudden canyon]

luckily for me i cant not loot the mythic dagger if im not in a CE guild lol

[fleet anchor]

And our other Rogue just quit so won't even have the chance for it to be traded. lol

[sudden canyon]

oof

[fleet anchor]

(Not that he ever got one either)

Weapon tokens plz

[nocturne geode]

wep tokens were kinda yikes too

[sudden canyon]

i seen 1 heroic dagger and it was in a guild run. on sylvanas some dude logged over to his rogue. looted a second one and traded it to the other rogue in the raid group

i cried myself to sleep that night

also a couple of weeks ago i had signet belt and chest in my vault

i already owned signet and chest

that one felt bad too

it was soo close

or maybe the belt was a different one

still felt bad tho,

i dont know what i preffer. having our chase peices be leggos and the weaps garunteed like in legion, or having them be weapons and the legos garunteed.

which thinking about it there should be a progression path to get both outside of rng but for some reason that seems outside of the realm of possibilities in a game like wow.

which there kinda was after 7.2 i think

[brazen zodiac]

at this point ill settle for a normal dagger

the only sylv dagger i got was the lfr one the first time i did it

like wtf

[ebon notch]

i once joined a sylvanas run

just to practice the fight

both rogues looted a dagger

and they both had double dagger already

and they wanted to trade me

but i was locked

[left plaza]

Dudeee

[ebon notch]

ikr

[obtuse robin]

nightly has mfd?

inb4

[woeful wigeon]

@balmy condor dont shoot me what you mean with the pin mdf with ventyr

[balmy condor]

ep mfd > ep vig

[spice spire]

What about NS > MFD mister theory crafter

My thicc envenom

[balmy condor]

[woeful wigeon]

btw dus any of you know if its possebel with elvui or plater to only see rupture garrote poisen shiv on the targets i have dificulties to keep track on dots on targets

[sudden canyon]

yea you can filter so that it only shows ur debuffs

[hollow river]

Take it back

Say it’s a sick joke daps. Say it’s a sick joke

[obtuse robin]

i guess its updated

[ebon notch]

hold on i have screenshot

[hollow river]

Nope like I don’t wanna see it bro

I’d start crying along with you

[ebon notch]

https://i.imgur.com/byXLYn9.png

[hollow river]

This is why we don’t redo bosses kids

Take a lesson from this mans despair

[ebon notch]

i had to practice

[hollow river]

I’d ragequit

[ebon notch]

my sylvanas was astro dogshit

nah im dead inside

[hollow river]

I was nearly ready to quit tonight

Then I finally looted fking kt neck

[ebon notch]

crit haste?

[hollow river]

Yeah

[ebon notch]

no remnant neck?

[hollow river]

And only heroic

I have remnant

Kt sims better for me

My haste is giga troll dogshit basically

[woeful wigeon]

with frost set what crit % we shut stop 40-41-or no limit

[hollow river]

I can have 52%+ crit if I wanted

[hollow river]

Sim it

It’s a little different for everyone my friend

[fleet anchor]

Won't be for another hour or so

[hollow river]

I have mythic pieces that are being outsimmed by heroic pieces it’s nutty

[woeful wigeon]

yeah i have prob with high sims i can sim to 16m bur still cant get away with it

[obtuse robin]

oh shit nice

[hollow river]

Huh?

16M iterations?

Even with the cheapest subscription on raidbots I sim all my stuff just fine

[woeful wigeon]

you got time for screen share i can show you

[hollow river]

Not really, how many pieces are you adding to it?

[woeful wigeon]

cause whaver i change in sim all stays the same at the end of the road

[hollow river]

Turn off “replace gems and enchants” or any talents/soulbinds you don’t need to sim atm

Oh o.O

I thought you meant you were overloading it with too many iterations or something

[balmy condor]

oh also not yet

raidbots hasn't rebuilt

so

there's that

[woeful wigeon]

na whaver i change in gear or gems or enchant or cov noting changes at all

[hollow river]

So you mean you’re already using your best set up then maybe?

[woeful wigeon]

cant really belive that tbh but yeah i am sure i am doing a mistake

[hollow river]

It’s possible, try linking a sim

I’ve got heroic crit/haste gear simming higher than certain mythic pieces atm (like haste/vers stuff etc). Pretty different from last tier’s gearing/sims.

[woeful wigeon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/54TowD48g9V38bPyTjpDna this is 52%crit 10%haste 20% mastery 5%vers 4% leech

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uiuUDgXFRrqktXzxe2dLny 43%crit 16%haste 20%mastery 4%vers 1%leech main speck /gear

the one below is the one i use always

[ebon notch]

rip

[woeful wigeon]

this is the simulationcraft stuff with all gear ect

whatever i change i cant get a better result so i think i am doing someting wrong

[hollow river]

10.2k is pretty solid for 243 ilvl

[woeful wigeon]

in real i only do 7-8k

12-14k burst

[hollow river]

In raid?

[woeful wigeon]

y

[hollow river]

Or dummies?

[woeful wigeon]

raid

[hollow river]

Might want to check in sometime and see if anyone could review your logs

Maybe there’s things you can do to improve

[woeful wigeon]

pressing to fast the buttens cant that be a problem

like i dont play on keyboard i play on a tartarus spamming the buttoms

[hollow river]

You mean not pooling your energy? That’s not too big a deal

But you wanna make sure you’re not over using mutilate

You want to make sure you use rupture/envenom/CT(if talaneted) at max or max -1 combo points.

Without wasting combo point generators and going over the limit

[woeful wigeon]

like what i do for exaple if muti is on cd iam like 4555555555565555555556 so it goes of then pres next ability yeah not really paying atention to combo point whole fight

keep pressing it utill it goes of then swap buttom

[hollow river]

Yeah that used to be an issue for me before I knew how bad it was for your dps

[ancient kraken]

I mean I do the same, it’s not a prob

[hollow river]

Combo points are super important

[ancient kraken]

But you should pay attention to combo points

[woeful wigeon]

maby try use a wa with big combobar ?

[hollow river]

A lot of people press their buttons fast

[woeful wigeon]

dus that sounds silly

[hollow river]

Yeah

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[hollow river]

Check those out

You can make stuff bigger

But you’ll have to mess with the settings a bit

[woeful wigeon]

gone check i use luxthos atm

[hollow river]

Can be a little intimidating at first but not hard

[ancient kraken]

Same, then there shouldn’t be a problem

[hollow river]

Some can be easier to pay attention to, but once you’re used to keeping an eye on it, it’s all the same usually

[woeful wigeon]

my hardest part with what i have problems is keep track on multi targets dots dont see then on elv ui and on plater

dont see then on the enemy healthbars

[hollow river]

You can get plater profiles on wago.io

And import the profile to your player in game

https://wago.io/gf0Dg_Ujr

This one is pretty good, from what I’ve read people say about it.

[woeful wigeon]

so i diable addon plater then

disable

?

[hollow river]

Nope

Use the Plater add on, open its menu, and go to Profiles. Then import the string you copy from wago

Just like importing a WA, but it’s a Plater string.

[woeful wigeon]

this is wat i see atm freaking hard to keep track

[hollow river]

Is that the plater profile from wago?

[slow marsh]

why do you have two weakauras

[rocky pecan]

What this ui sorry but...

[woeful wigeon]

i am chaning it atm

[slow marsh]

put your luxthos in the middle above your abilities, make your abilities smaller or hide them, get rid of that one in the middle

[hollow river]

I don’t see two WAs?

[slow marsh]

the one above abilities

[rocky pecan]

It's just a part of is wa

[hollow river]

The big ones? Look like custom elvui actions bars no?

[woeful wigeon]

no that hekilli activated all adons atm

[brazen zodiac]

Dear God let me organize ur ui profile

[hollow river]

Ah

[slow marsh]

yeah whatever that is scrap it if you're using luxthos

[brazen zodiac]

hi ice

[hollow river]

Probably uses it for GCD comprehension in peripheral vision

Other ways to go about it tho for sure

[hollow river]

You can also turn off certain debuffs from being tracked on plater in the settings

[rocky pecan]

I couldn't play like this but we'll ppl made there ui how they feel OK for them I suppose

Well*

[slow marsh]

everyone has to start somehwere. looks more to me like they downloaded a bunch of stuff and haven't sifted through it yet

[hollow river]

I’ve seen some sick players play with their WA HUD off to the side

[slow marsh]

took me a solid 2-3 months playing again and constantly tinkering before i settled into something i like

[hollow river]

Same

[brazen zodiac]

I spent like a total of 22 hours in elvui setting it up to my preferences lmfao

Another on weakauras qq

[woeful wigeon]

better diable the other addons

[hollow river]

[alpine garden]

Even now I don't know where to put my quest list

[rocky pecan]

He is max level quest list is fine kek

[hollow river]

Remove it

Lol

The point was plater boys

[woeful wigeon]

yes ty @hollow river

[hollow river]

I think he’s got the hang of everything else from the looks of it, add on/wa wise

He needs some plater tips

For tracking bleeds on multi target

[rocky pecan]

Cev profile

[hollow river]

I sent

[rocky pecan]

Totally fine for that

[ebon notch]

You can lose up to 500 DPS by not pooling btw

[hollow river]

Idk man

I’ve heard it’s barely half that

Multiple times

[oak sky]

pooling is big gains

especially on bs/ds

[hollow river]

Bs/ds for sure

[brazen zodiac]

I've heard from a lot of people that it's not important

[hollow river]

^

[brazen zodiac]

But daps is number 1 fatescribe

So his law>>>>

[hollow river]

Na

Feelycraft

[oak sky]

i think

[brazen zodiac]

Im memein but I'm p sure whisypr said it didn't matter at one point himself

[oak sky]

cev said its like 900 or something with bs/ds

vs never pooling?

[brazen zodiac]

Gonna check rq just to see don't quote

[hollow river]

[oak sky]

dont quote me on that

[ebon notch]

You can sim it btw

Cev literally showed me step by step

[oak sky]

with ep/vigor its smaller

[ebon notch]

On my sim I lost 500 DPS on a 5 min SIM with ep/vig by not pooling

[rocky pecan]

Its fine we will play mfd so

[oak sky]

never pooling is different than sometimes pooling tho

[brazen zodiac]

Yeah for sure

Idk when to pool tbh

[oak sky]

most people do a mix

[brazen zodiac]

I just smash smash

[ebon notch]

I mean yeah but you can't be like "yeah I pool sometimes"

[rocky pecan]

I only pool in hot tub

[ebon notch]

Don't say that cev wasn't happy when I said that to him LMAO

[rocky pecan]

OK bad joke

[hollow river]

Why not

[brazen zodiac]

LOL

[hollow river]

I pool sometimes

[ebon notch]

You pool when you are outside shiv windows

You don't need to perma slam envenom

[brazen zodiac]

so you don't eveonom whe-

[ebon notch]

You maintain the buff

[brazen zodiac]

I don't believe u

[ebon notch]

You pandemic your bleeds

[woeful wigeon]

look all that stuff of plater its crazzy tbh

[ebon notch]

You slam shiv on cd

[brazen zodiac]

Don't make me get out of bed just to go to korthia to hit that dummy

Daps I burned my hand so badly

I'm scared I can't raid

:C

[ebon notch]

How did you burn your hand wtf

[hollow river]

That’s what a lot of people use

[brazen zodiac]

I took a fuckin plate of nachos out of the oven with my hand

Idk what the fuck was wrong with me

[ebon notch]

No wonder your vanishes looked weird you can't even reach the other buttons now

[brazen zodiac]

Dude im losing my mind

[ebon notch]

Did you leave it under cold water for a few mins

[brazen zodiac]

No that's a myth cold water is bad

[woeful wigeon]

guys i dont play oon a keyboard dont forget that

[brazen zodiac]

I used warm water

[woeful wigeon]

i play with keybad tartarus

[hollow river]

Same thing really. Just a different button layout. I have one too

[brazen zodiac]

I'm tempted to go practice pooling until the vault opens

[oak sky]

its not difficult you just need to remember to do it

[brazen zodiac]

Yeah that's why I need to practice it for 9 hours

XD

Drill it into my brain

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

Whatever left of it

[hollow river]

Butter that burn baby

[brazen zodiac]

Sorry I read your cold as ice cold not lukewarm

[ebon notch]

Smh

Don't hit a dummy btw go hit bosses

[brazen zodiac]

Since most people assume cold rather than cool

But cold and cool are not the same

[ebon notch]

How many kills on soulrender do you have

[brazen zodiac]

Idk

U have my logs open u bully go check

.<

[hollow river]

LOL

[ebon notch]

I never got a link

Lmao

[brazen zodiac]

F

Just look up my name badbttch

Area52

[ebon notch]

Damn I have 42 soulrender heroic kills

Good thing I'm unemployed

[brazen zodiac]

Me too

Based

[ebon notch]

12 only

[brazen zodiac]

I'm bouta start working at this funeral home soon tho I'm excited

[ebon notch]

Don't touch a target dummy ever again

[brazen zodiac]

Yeah I don't clear heroic much

[ebon notch]

???

How do you practice then

[brazen zodiac]

Idk I hit the dummy

[ebon notch]

Dummy only works when you're brand new to the spec

[brazen zodiac]

Whats there to practice that would be any different

[ebon notch]

Go hit bosses

[brazen zodiac]

I'm not pegging bro

Pugging&

[ebon notch]

[ebon notch]

Just do it trust me

[brazen zodiac]

What is there to practice that's any different

[ebon notch]

Mechanics affect DPS

Dummy has no mechanic

[brazen zodiac]

I ignore 99% of mechanics

[ebon notch]

Boss has mechanic

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

[ebon notch]

Ignoring and optimising are not the same

If you don't have 100 logs on every boss you haven't finished optimising it yet

[brazen zodiac]

I meeeaan

[ebon notch]

So go and kill it

[brazen zodiac]

You gonna pay for my shit

Lmfaoo

[ebon notch]

What shit

Go boost make gold

[brazen zodiac]

Cause you know they wiping 30000 times

[ebon notch]

I made 4mill last cycle or smth

[brazen zodiac]

Idk I did that with my guild yesterday and it sucked

[ebon notch]

And that's not even a large amount

[brazen zodiac]

At least it didn't till fate

[ebon notch]

Even if you only have 500k you can cover all consumables for like 2 months

[brazen zodiac]

I have 5k

[ebon notch]

...

[brazen zodiac]

Cause I just reupd on consumables and shit

But that's gonna be for mythic

Esp for painsmith

Idk I don't get any dps gain from doing heroic and I don't wanna wipe over and over again in pugs

Makes sense no?

[ebon notch]

No

I sleep

[brazen zodiac]

Sleep well

[fallen arch]

I think you’re missing his point

[slow marsh]

[fallen arch]

You are getting better by practicing boss fights

[slow marsh]

You guys seem like you need a hug

Here you go

[fallen arch]

Some iceblade love right there

[slow marsh]

Damn I want to stream just so I can get sick emojis like whisp

[fallen arch]

You don’t need to stream for that?

[slow marsh]

I have to have an excuse

[fallen arch]

Hehe right

[slow marsh]

Either stream or have a disc

And I'll pass on the disc

[fallen arch]

Just start streaming, ezpz

[brazen zodiac]

i get his point. like i said, i just don't want to pug it is all.

[slow marsh]

Yeah I have a channel set up I just need to do it

[brazen zodiac]

maybe i can grab a few nerds and do a 2/2/6 run a few times. probs would be just as good, no?

[slow marsh]

2/2/6 is maybe the best way to learn cuz it's harder to just get carried

[brazen zodiac]

yeye.

[fallen arch]

Then don’t expect to get that much better at boss fights

[brazen zodiac]

never said i expected shit tho

[fallen arch]

Right, ok fair

[brazen zodiac]

[slow marsh]

When I was starting I just ran shit over and over dude

[fallen arch]

Pugging is harsh tho

[brazen zodiac]

pugging is dogshit.

[slow marsh]

Pugging can be rough but they're ez come ez go

[brazen zodiac]

true ^

[balmy condor]

Does that justify the near 600 dollars for them

[fallen arch]

It can be nice if you have patience to put a good group together

[brazen zodiac]

^^^^

absolutely right on that one oz

[slow marsh]

For yours yes

What a qt

[brazen zodiac]

whisps emotes bring genuine happiness for me

cause the colors

tbh

[fallen arch]

Same

[brazen zodiac]

[balmy condor]

Good

Cause it’s not my money

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

[fallen arch]

We can support

[balmy condor]

[brazen zodiac]

i cant support shit but i can give u that fat expensive moral support

[slow marsh]

I have a .0165% claim to them so I want to share them with the world

[balmy condor]

Impressive

[slow marsh]

That's some real quick maths and totally not done on calc by trial error

[obtuse valley]

is it generally only worth switching to dashing scoundrel(as necro) once you have frost set and decent crit? My alt is around 222 right now but just got a 239 ocular gland tn and sitting around 34% crit now and was thinking about if I should make the switch (should probably have frost set this reset).

[balmy condor]

They’re about equal for necro

[obtuse robin]

GULP

and so it begins

[brazen zodiac]

oh

oh no

i wa sso close

so close

[alpine garden]

85 dps increase with mfd

[arctic walrus]

@balmy condor pain haste on obe actually makes a dif

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[rocky pecan]

pain haste ?

what that means

[balmy condor]

It means he’s in pain

Because haste is good

[rocky pecan]

oh y

well y prolly less than 20% is kinda meh with obe

[balmy condor]

Idk where you got that number from

Or what that means

But sure

[rocky pecan]

i got this from nowhere this is why i say "prolly" :d

[balmy condor]

Very cool