assassination

[quaint carbon]

any people her use eternal skirmish as chest enchant? turns out it sims 21dps higher than +30 agi for me

[lyric crater]

use bone spike on cd if it a add fight one one charge to use on swithing targets

hold one charge

[strange python]

Ty guys

[thorny pond]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[obtuse robin]

are the aoe changes on ptr?

[silent parcel]

Is there a big difference between blood and frost set?

[sharp zodiac]

No

[real solar]

@limber lion i miss u

[paper bridge]

Hi guys ! Is there any ressources about the "pooling" concept? I'm not sure how to apply it to my gameplay.
I've found this on some (2years old) reddit post :
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/az36ix/assassin_rogue_energy_pooling/

Try to portrait it as following:

    Vendetta or toxic blade buff up? ->get as much envenom casts as possible in this buffed dmg windows. Do not pool.

    Vendetta and toxic blade on CD? -> use Mutilate, use it again. You have 4bor 5 cp and ~30 energy. You could use Envenom now, but you rather wait... Wait... Till around 100 Energie. Then Envenom and your mutilated. They will be guaranteed buffed by envenom and ep as well as you will have enough energy if tb comes off CD.

My basic understanding is : "If garrote and rupture are up and won't fall in seconds : Keep your energy to 80% for your envenom and then spam."
But I can't really figure out why .. in the case i'm somehow right.
Thanks in advance.

[timid coral]

more casts with envenom buff/EP up

fewer with them down

[static apex]

hello sorry i am starting playing in m+ assa and idk how its possible climb the dps in multi target

[fallen arch]

What do you want to know

[static apex]

how climb the dps

[fallen arch]

You mean do more dps?

[static apex]

because when i try to play i use tempest garrote in all targets and my dps is 3k

and never increase

[manic pebble]

spam FoK

[fallen arch]

You start from stealth, garrote 4x, use crimson tempest, maintain slice and dice, rupture every target you can with cp built with fok

Use zoldyck, profit

Use your cooldowns on cd (so cov ability, shiv and vendetta) and maintain as many bleeds as you can

[manic pebble]

also restealth with vanish then apply another x4 garrote

when they're running out

[fallen arch]

I hope that answers your questions?

Lot of tab targeting involved, takes a little practice

[static apex]

ohhhh ok

nice

i will try that

not spam crimson right?

[manic pebble]

maintain CT too

[sand heath]

Not spam, maintain it like you would rupture on targets, as a bleed 🩸

[limber lion]

[warm plover]

Is it worth playing sylvanas dagger offhand on sylvanas mythic?

[winter vapor]

Wondering whether to stick to doomblade in keys this week, zoldyk faithful but stuffs dying too quick

[manic pebble]

sim it

oh wait she never gets below 50%

so you only get 2 stacks

[warm plover]

mhm

So thats why I am corious

[manic pebble]

what other dagger u got if you're not using syl dagger off hand?

[warm plover]

246

[manic pebble]

stick with syl dagger then

[warm plover]

I am using cds on big boy in p2 so I guess thats some value

[winter vapor]

also as a die hard sin player, how hard is sub to master? I've lietrally never done it but one of my m+ tanks says I should try it

[hollow dirge]

Imho, just about the same to master really.
St , you need a bit more time for sub, though difference is not huge.
That said, aoe is much easier on sub and once you master assa aoe , sub aoe feels rather simple.

[winter vapor]

yeah that I gather, just not keen on recrafting leggo's and stuff but

much obliged though

[static apex]

@fallen arch sorry for other question for aoe what is betteer leggo obedience or doomblade?

[fallen arch]

Obedience

As long as you flag on cooldown in aoe

[ebon thorn]

anyone got the string to sim consumables

stones, lube

[winter vapor]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[ebon thorn]

Advanced sim section

cant find that

nvm.

[slim pebble]

I just started running Zoldycks last week. Is it worth it to save vanish for end of big packs/boss kills for extra damage? If I’m running subterfuge

[lavish grove]

Guys, any tips for Soulrender Mythic?

[cursive silo]

hit the boss

[lavish grove]

Dks, mages, hunters, warriors in the raid 😦 Always last on dps

[sinful cradle]

then flex boss dam

overlord dam

[empty pasture]

On nerzuhl is it best to hedge your bet by facing away with malevolence? Who do you target for shadowstep? Is cast at .2 second?

[lavish grove]

I was thinking going Obedience for every overlord but he melts so not sure its worth

[slow marsh]

Use on CD

[slim pebble]

TY, just wasn’t sure if there was a better optimization since I’m running that leggo now ty

[slow marsh]

Yeah it doesn't really change anything at all

If anything you want to make sure you're vanishing on CD as well as popping vendetta/flag even more since you can get CDs back up during execute

[fallen arch]

On high tyrannical to have both up at start of a boss fight so u can prob get 2 casts off, of which one will be in execute range

On fort use them always on cd, usually they’ll come up somewhere in the boss fights then

[placid pagoda]

99 parse on mythic eye

so happy

[obtuse robin]

gamer

[cerulean nest]

252 eye trinket outsimming 239 guardian

fact or fiction?

not that ive gotten guardian one to drop, but still

[obtuse robin]

fact esp with more crit and hgher rank frost

[cerulean nest]

i do have crit and frost

just for the first time this week guardian starting losing out in sims

[lavish lichen]

Use this to sim titanic ocular gland more accurately
(shadowlands.titanic_ocular_gland_worthy_chance=.8)
.8 means 80% uptime, change that to your desired value

[cerulean nest]

got like one slight crit upgrade

where do I put that?

[lavish lichen]

Raidbots, Under “Custom APL and SimC Options”

[cerulean nest]

cool i'll give it a shot. no clue what the uptime accuracy is gonna be but ill see lol

[drowsy parcel]

95%+

depends a little bit on what boss, maybe 90 or so on guardian

[wintry mica]

Even looking at logs from soulrender prog our trinket users were all between 88-95%

[sharp zodiac]

Looking at the new sims in FAQ. Is Obedience way better than Doomblade on Cleave fights as well? (Can’t sim right now on mobile)

[fallen arch]

If you consider 120 dps on everything bis as way better then yes

Oh cleave, sorry I misread that. Idk

[obtuse robin]

new sims

whispyr doing gods work

[fallen arch]

No surprise there

God doing gods work

[obtuse robin]

[kind talon]

No

[plain thistle]

no, why would it?

[winter vapor]

CT for KT/Sylv?

[limber lion]

KT yes, Sylv no

[winter vapor]

ty 🙂

[placid pagoda]

I just quit my guild - where is the best place to look for recruiters bar wowprogress

[shadow tusk]

warcraftlogs has a recruitment feature as well now

[lavish lichen]

On wowprogress update your profile to looking for guild

Put what prog, what times, link your logs and contact method

People will reach out

I also dm’d you a discord link for a recruitment community

[placid pagoda]

Cheers man

[dark token]

I think warcraftlogs is the best recruitment place atm since you can actually search by hours

And you can't anywhere else

People also stopped updating wowprog lately it seems to be dying

They set "looking for all classes, updated 5 months ago" or something similar

[placid pagoda]

@dark token thanks man will get on this

[dark token]

Not sure how well it works for private logging guilds tho

I think it determines hours + raid comp from the public logs they run on bosses unless officers setup the guild page

[wintry mica]

just tried dashing in m+ after seeing people talk about it, and it felt like a mistake

[dark token]

Compared to what

[wintry mica]

compared to just running zoldyck

or obe

[dark token]

If they are equal ilvl Zoldyck will win

[brazen zodiac]

hi ray

[dark token]

But I find it performs similarly to obedience

[wintry mica]

it didnt in my dslice sim earlier

[dark token]

Are you venthyr theotar?

[wintry mica]

hey!

i did a sim with both triple potency theotar and nadjia

and obe dashing and zoldyck

oh wait ur saying equal ilvl zoldyck and dashing

the zoldyck and obe are both 235 the dashing was 262 but obe still simmed highest

[subtle tundra]

dashing is only bis in raid bcs frost set

there's no frost set in m+ afaik

[gloomy rose]

anyone noticed some issue with sbs recently? today I kept ninja pulling the boss by just targetting it and it always did the sbs dot damage somehow

[obtuse robin]

prolly ask in outlaw ch

way more necros in there

[spice spire]

No issues so far - you’re not the only person that’s mentioned it but I’ve had 0.

[limber lion]

Has not happened to me ever.

[gloomy rose]

it happened to me three times today, but it was just hc farm, so we didnt wipe, maybe just dying would fix it, alright at least I know I dont have to be super wary of that

thanks

[ebon thorn]

yo gyus

just came here to

post

Goodnight

[brazen zodiac]

bless

[drowsy parcel]

@gloomy rose i think its something with sudden fractures conduit on bonesmith

i dont run sf on bonesmith anymore so i cant confirm but

[spice spire]

Run that as well, still haven’t had an issue

[gloomy rose]

what do you run if not sf on bonesmith

[hollow escarp]

Do you have a log?

[drowsy parcel]

i play lethal poisons and wps

[hollow escarp]

Because I've also never encountered that and I play necro for 6 months

[drowsy parcel]

play marileth on most bosses anyway

[gloomy rose]

here for example https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NF3QHTxLt7XK4Aym/#fight=31&view=events

[slow marsh]

yeah dashing in dslice is better than it actually is in practice

[ebon notch]

https://i.imgur.com/dS497Fv.png

any rank 1 healers??

fucking lmao

4.3% overall as a rogue what a joke

[placid pagoda]

Jheeez grats man

The eye ad on mythic eye deflected my SBS lol

@limber lion got my first 99 mythic parse tonight , going back venth boi Wednesday tok

[limber lion]

[limber lion]

Great job!

[ebon thorn]

yes and

ceverion

imagine i get that

with a solid 16 parse

[limber lion]

[placid pagoda]

Lol

[placid pagoda]

Thanks man

[ebon thorn]

Solid gamer

[obtuse robin]

yea we throwing hands on sight

[placid pagoda]

Snow what cov are you

[limber lion]

better start parsing giga with that dagger >:(

[ebon thorn]

im venthyr

[ebon thorn]

Need to learn how to play rogue first

then i'll parse well

[dim estuary]

when I see top 100 breakdown nearly no one is using obediance, did I make a mistake taking obediance over dashing ?

[limber lion]

Yes.

But you can get a relevant ilvl Dashing fairly quickly

So no worries.

[dim estuary]

Since i have 6 alts 60 i guess i can do quick soul ashes

[placid pagoda]

@limber lion you staying venth? I’ve swapped back for next reset. Hit my m+ score goal so just gunna raid log now tbh

[wooden urchin]

Hi. (No intention of making fun of spec) Is assa an easy spec compared to other current melee classes ? Im looking to play an alt but dont want nothing too complicated like momentum DH.

[placid pagoda]

Has a easier to follow rotation for sure

[placid pagoda]

Momentum DH is literally 3 buttons bro

[wooden urchin]

I really dont want to talk about other specs now, maybe later

[placid pagoda]

Go BM hunter if you want an uncomplicated alt

[wooden urchin]

I kinda prefer a melee.

Actually would go a hunter maybe, but I hate the idea that the dmg are doing your pets.

[placid pagoda]

Assa is abojt maintaining bleeds, using mutilate / envenom as a filler between

[placid pagoda]

But yes, it’s easier rotation : class to learn over something like outlaw

[wooden urchin]

How is AoE ? I believe that WW monk has more complicated aoe than ST for example

[placid pagoda]

Monk aoe is spinning crane kick spam. Aoe wise for assa, we take the talent crimson tempest; another bleed. 1/3 targets you maintain garrotte and rupture, 3+ targets normally fan of knives / crimson tempest whilst maintains rupture on all 3/5 targets if you can

[placid pagoda]

It’s a bleed based spec so you want everything having a bleed on as much as you can. It’s probably the ‘harder’ part of assassination spec

[wooden urchin]

I see, thank you for briefly explaining.

[placid pagoda]

Assassination is a very strong ST class, good for boss damage, aoe is not it’s strong point (that is what outlaw is good for & sub in some scenarios). The new aoe cap beint removed may help push assa and sub above outlaw though due to uncapped FoK and CT

[wooden urchin]

Im not sure I'm fan of maintaining DoTs on targets.

Do other two specs work similar ?

[placid pagoda]

You defo need a plater or WA to help track the bleeds

[placid pagoda]

Outlaw is m+ king, you press blade flurry on cool down that allows you to hit 5 targets for I think 15 seconds, similar to warrior sweeping strikes.

[placid pagoda]

Sub is just spam FoK and Black Powder, not too crazy

[oak sky]

Sub maintains rupture in st and cleave

1 dot

But mostly just using abilities

Outlaw has no dots

[placid pagoda]

what @oak sky said 😎

[oak sky]

But outlaw also has a little more decision making, but the upside is it has basically the same rotation in st and aoe

[wooden urchin]

But the most important thing I wanna know.

[placid pagoda]

Yep outlaw is very like a fury warrior; no dots all damage

[wooden urchin]

Is rogue gay ?

[placid pagoda]

???

[limber lion]

Yes, my second rogue is Necro

[limber lion]

[oak sky]

Weird question lmao

[placid pagoda]

Good to hear - tbh I wanna play sub and Theo is my highest simming sim so buzzed to have a go

[balmy condor]

god I wish that were me

[real solar]

My 2nd rogue is necro too and 3rd ally rogue is kyrian ;D

[placid pagoda]

Lol

[obtuse robin]

bunch of hardcore gamers in here

sheesh

[oak sky]

[balmy condor]

yeah but I wish I were cev's second rogue

idc bout what you are

[real solar]

waow whispyr

i thought u luved me

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[oak sky]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-who-asked-gif-18211844

[balmy condor]

[real solar]

[balmy condor]

I only love you if you outdps ryfie

thems the rules

log check

[real solar]

I don’t have blood shards or dagger and he gets PIs too

[heavy coral]

Outdpsing Cev will be a heroic task

[real solar]

And I play w like 30 fps

[balmy condor]

sounds like a convenient excuse

[heavy coral]

Even legendary i would say

[real solar]

DAM

[obtuse robin]

5 excusses in a matter of 10 sec

[balmy condor]

admit it

[real solar]

ok look at last tier logs @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

it's just cause he's korean right

[real solar]

fuk this tier

I’m chinese

[balmy condor]

oh

but you're not playing outlaw?

[real solar]

Sir this is the sin channel

no outlaw chads allowed

[heavy coral]

You meant, the cool rogue spec channel

[slow marsh]

LAAAAMAWWWW

[balmy condor]

aight you know what

[slow marsh]

Whisp on a rampage

[balmy condor]

I'm teem ivanrah

ryfie getting put in the dirt

god damn

[real solar]

U see those logs last tier?

[balmy condor]

yuh

[slow marsh]

what about my logs last tier

[real solar]

im just washed rn no motivation

just wait till i try hard ok

9.1.5

[balmy condor]

[limber lion]

[slow marsh]

Buff Kyrian in 9.1.5 so I can live the kleia dream?

[oak sky]

Keep venthyr ahead so I don't have to think in raid

Let me focus on shiv

And only shiv

[glossy jewel]

i have access to r6 doomblade & obedience right now, im using max rank frost set. sims suggest to use obedience over doomblade but i dont see a lot of assa obedience logs. any merit to trying it?

[oak sky]

Dashing is the leggo right now

[ebon thorn]

bumper cars

[glossy jewel]

only have access to r4 dashing right now which sims lower than both r6 obedience & doomblade..so i guess im sticking to either one of those for now

[oak sky]

Either is fine tbh

[wheat vigil]

Is it best to dump all 3 serrated bone spikes into the target at once during vendetta windows? After getting the initial bleed up

To keep Kevin up

[thorny pond]

Play your best sim

[wheat vigil]

Or two I guess since vendetta is 20s

If that makes any sense

[winter vapor]

@wheat vigil you want to wait for marrowed gemstone from heimir

but should usually occur in vendetta windows

[wheat vigil]

Well this was assuming marileth bind

[winter vapor]

then I assume your proposition is correct

[wheat vigil]

Roger that thanks

[wheat vigil]

Can’t really control when that comes up though can you?

[bleak sky]

https://wago.io/txbPprlnP

[wheat vigil]

I get that but you can’t just stop critting. I guess it makes sense that it should proc in vendetta windows though

[slow marsh]

gemstones procs about every minute so it'll be up at some point during vendetta

[wheat vigil]

Right

[slow marsh]

only takes a few seconds into the fight to get it to proc

[drifting cosmos]

is it just me or this psy guy the mdi caster is being ridicules?

"calculated tank death cause you have earth elemental"??

[oak sky]

Hes trolling bro

[ebon notch]

https://i.imgur.com/kLVKSJT.png

boys

we almost top 10

[oak sky]

Must be nice to have gear

And be good at the game

Congrats tho keep the grind going @ebon notch

[ebon notch]

❤️

[limber lion]

Refresh that list in 8 hours.

😉

[oak sky]

LOL

[ebon notch]

oh no

what will happen

[oak sky]

Hes coming for the top

[ebon notch]

HAHHAA

doesnt affect me

if only these fucking boost raid leaders could put a monk and warrior in each group

i could have at least 3 rank ones rn

5% dam bullshit

[drowsy parcel]

heroic logs

[ebon notch]

bro we extended after painsmith

i would be pumping mythic rn if theyd let me reclear

[oak sky]

If my guild extends im so fucked

Already like 4 ilvl below everyone else

They said we probably wont extend until sylv tho

Fingers crossed

[ebon notch]

did you kill PS yet

[oak sky]

I joined during prog

[drowsy parcel]

are you in 2 day guilds? 3 day and above should enver extend this raid imo

its easy reclear

[oak sky]

Should kill it in reclear tuesday

[drowsy parcel]

and you get a break from smashing your head into shit sylvanas for the entire week

[oak sky]

Progging fate

[ebon notch]

2 day

[oak sky]

Im in a 3 day

[arctic hare]

holy crap

I just timed a 15 in which I disconnected and couldn't get back in for like, 5 minutes

They four manned and I came back just in time for the last segment of the run

I logged back in once and ended up with 6513 ping

[spice spire]

4 manning a 15 isn’t that hard tbf

[oak sky]

Thats why they have boosts

[arctic hare]

Still scary lol, I haven't done all that many 15's as of yet

[spice spire]

Especially if it was 4 pugging a 1, very few dungeons are super punishing for four manning

Once you learn the season it’s kind of just doing the right stuff you’ll get there frost 🙂

[south hollow]

Do you guys manage to get 30 stacks on flagellation all the time?

[arctic hare]

I'm used to 15's, it just made my heart pump

I haven't managed to get to 30 stacks on flag yet outside of torg

[spice spire]

No, sin is arguably the hardest to reach 30, mid twenties looks amazing as assassination lol

[oak sky]

in aoe 30 is pretty doable

but not guaranteed

[south hollow]

in aoe..

I just get sad when i see 22 stacks

[limber lion]

22 is pretty normal outside of lust

19-22 is pretty much the consistent number you'll be hitting outside of lust

and during lust/cooldowns it can get up to like 28

if you're super lucky

well tbh

don't even have to be super lucky

[obtuse robin]

iv never been below 25

[limber lion]

but that's about the tippity top

[obtuse robin]

[limber lion]

[south hollow]

Thanks I thought i fucking suck

[limber lion]

log check

[obtuse robin]

chill

[limber lion]

@obtuse robin

[obtuse robin]

so uh how ur trial going bro

[limber lion]

waiting.

[oak sky]

ive never been below 28

tbh

[obtuse robin]

gamer

[south hollow]

next stop echo??

[limber lion]

aight

logs

give

now

@oak sky

[oak sky]

no

[limber lion]

what's your ign

[oak sky]

dont want my soulrender leaked

cant have that

[obtuse robin]

iv seen his logs

his guild got snitchs

[limber lion]

found em

[spice spire]

Agreonr iirc

[limber lion]

that wasn't too hard

yup

[oak sky]

lol

[obtuse robin]

lmao

[oak sky]

i couldnt get agreon on illidan

then i swapped tich

you got me

[spice spire]

Rookie move

You make a character on tich named agreonr and force the name change

Ez

[limber lion]

@oak sky

cute 23 stacks buddyu

[oak sky]

yo

LOL

[limber lion]

that's with lust

[obtuse robin]

HAHA

[limber lion]

and all cds

ouch

[south hollow]

he was lagging

[spice spire]

Oh no it was a lot check

[limber lion]

mr. I've never been below 28

[oak sky]

i wasnt trolling

never been below 28

the logs are fake news

[obtuse robin]

[balmy condor]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/whispyr

[spice spire]

LMFAO

[balmy condor]

[limber lion]

Alright Black is next

[obtuse robin]

yo

uh

[limber lion]

Holddat is an interesting name

[obtuse robin]

fuck

[pure moth]

Lol

[oak sky]

[obtuse robin]

good name for a rogue

if i do say so myself

[limber lion]

You'll never guess what the lucky number is this time

[obtuse robin]

did i say 25

i ment

[obtuse robin]

23

there u go

[oak sky]

just wait cev im gonna get a sick fate log when we kill it this week

im not gonna get a single mechanic

28 stack flags only

[obtuse robin]

ight im pissed im hunting all of cevs normal logs

[ebon notch]

ive literally never been below 24 stacks

of flag

[gray sleet]

is it worth to change a main hand 252 for a sylvannas HC dagger?

[ebon notch]

ever

[oak sky]

hes fotmrogue

check him

now

[ebon notch]

LMAOO

[spice spire]

Gatekeeping newer players on claims is

[ebon notch]

cev has my logs bookmarked at this point

[obtuse robin]

that man bout to be a wf raider

he can do w/e the fuk he wants

[balmy condor]

usually not, but you should sim it

[obtuse robin]

whispyr on the other hand

oh

i mean

[limber lion]

Guys I've got bad news

[obtuse robin]

oh no

[oak sky]

[obtuse robin]

say it aint so

[ebon notch]

i died

doesnt count

[balmy condor]

okay but that's the 3rd flag, which is the second flag out of opener, and 15 x 2 is 30

[obtuse robin]

true

quik maffs

[ebon notch]

get shit on @limber lion

[limber lion]

[ebon notch]

which log is that so i can quickly erase it from existance

[spice spire]

Mans about to be looking for every heroic fatescribe group he can

[balmy condor]

lmao

[obtuse robin]

dude i swear when i finally get a syl dagger ill never drop below 28 stacks

[spice spire]

And using cloak to the fullest of his abilities

[spice spire]

[ebon notch]

ive only found one so far that lets me skip runes

cev only does boosts so he cant skip them

[obtuse robin]

how much for a syl carry with full loot

[oak sky]

rogue discord should organize some heroic carries

get some of the boys a daggy

[obtuse robin]

im talkign mythic fu kthat

[ebon notch]

its like 6 mill or smth

for the kill

idk about loot

[oak sky]

yeah, i have 6 mil

[obtuse robin]

oh not bad actually

[oak sky]

once i get 11 more boes

🙂

[ebon notch]

i did 2 boosts this week and my balance is already at 1 mill LMAO

[oak sky]

very nice

[obtuse robin]

id ask what place but i might get nuked

[ebon notch]

for waht

[obtuse robin]

guild boost?

or other

[ebon notch]

no

my guild isnt good enough for that

[obtuse robin]

wat

u mythic boost?

[limber lion]

I personally boost and lead raids in Dawn. :)

[ebon notch]

as in we arent good enough that we consider doing boosts as a guild

[obtuse robin]

wait wat

[ebon notch]

thats a lie he never invites me

[obtuse robin]

gimmie a discord inv

[ebon notch]

so they cant be real

[limber lion]

All 3 of these statements are correct.

[obtuse robin]

oh wait cev is eu

[limber lion]

Yes sir

[obtuse robin]

[ebon notch]

when is your next cev ill sign up

[limber lion]

Never

[ebon notch]

i signed up for the 9:30 tomorrow

[limber lion]

Cute

[obtuse robin]

i should sign up to boost im so bored

[ebon notch]

i mean the other one on the community i usually boost with the raid leader is very new

and it makes the raid very painful

i did one with him on friday and it took 3 hours

[obtuse robin]

yikes

[gusty mirage]

[oak sky]

almost out of prison

[obtuse robin]

imagine

like imaginew

not being tier 6

this far in

[oak sky]

imagine grinding it

[gusty mirage]

until you realize theres a mount tied to that rep

[oak sky]

from the start

[obtuse robin]

but we r rogues its so easy for us

[ebon notch]

i wish i grinded it from the start

would have been way better

[oak sky]

omg a mount

great

[limber lion]

2 from death's advance as well afaik

[gusty mirage]

yep

[obtuse robin]

i have all conduits 252 and i have 50k catalog

[limber lion]

have fun boyos

[obtuse robin]

shits ez

[limber lion]

[obtuse robin]

i have all 3 actually

i think

[gusty mirage]

from the paragon boxes?

[soft shale]

im on paragon 4

[obtuse robin]

yea

[soft shale]

still no second mount

[obtuse robin]

oh wait

[limber lion]

is everything okay?

[oak sky]

i got a deaths advance one

[obtuse robin]

2 from da

def not nvm

[limber lion]

do you need to talk to someone?

it's okay, we'll listen

[oak sky]

i love the shardhides

[gusty mirage]

[obtuse robin]

yea just dont mention eoc

and ur good

[limber lion]

evolution of combat?

[obtuse robin]

yea

[limber lion]

that shit slaps

[obtuse robin]

nutty tech

[soft shale]

i miss the loss of terrorbound nexus more

that one could highroll so much

[limber lion]

anyways boyos

I still need one more dagger so I can play assa on my second rogue

someone trade me one, thanks

[obtuse robin]

if only u streamed and u could do asmongold things

dagger in no time

[oak sky]

can i get that?

[obtuse robin]

i paid for a aotc week 2

and still no dagger

[oak sky]

why would you do that

[obtuse robin]

cuz i was guuildless

and have gold

[oak sky]

i killed sylv before my guild did

in a pug

my old guild

[ebon notch]

lets do a key

[obtuse robin]

plu i got a discount from homies

like 300k off

[limber lion]

I actually fixed my computer recently

So I guess I have no more excuses

[obtuse robin]

yes sir

[ebon notch]

what was wrong with it?

[obtuse robin]

stream and teach us

[limber lion]

Who knows

[obtuse robin]

ur method now im sure streaming is somehwere in the contract

[ebon notch]

mustve been a really complex problem

hard to solve

[limber lion]

Yes

A new monitor, fresh install of wow, deletion of a few addons and changing to bigwigs

something did something

that worked

[ebon notch]

you missed a step

[limber lion]

which one?

the one that didn't do anything?

yep

[ebon notch]

hmmmmm

yeah nothing at all

[limber lion]

legit

didn't

me turning on my overclocks and xmp did nothing

my fps was still at a solid 12

in raids

memory was faster, sick

[ebon notch]

because the game is dogshit

[limber lion]

still shit fps

but something happened the day I did a fresh install

idk if it's the dbm or the monitor or the fresh install

but we're chilling now

[obtuse robin]

those dam addons and weak auras

i did the same tihng

[limber lion]

anyways, assassination boyos

[obtuse robin]

re did all that shit

fixed my fps

[ebon notch]

i swapped to bigwigs also

dbm is kinda

heavy

[limber lion]

exciting news tomorrow, hopefully!

[obtuse robin]

leak?

[oak sky]

[limber lion]

osrs group ironman mode release date

so I can never play wow again

[obtuse robin]

give us a taste

[limber lion]

[obtuse robin]

[limber lion]

how about a

[oak sky]

osrs

[limber lion]

fresh uninstall

[ebon notch]

you'll reinstall the moment someone overtakes you on heroic all stars

[limber lion]

big true.

[oak sky]

daps is that a threat

?

[ebon notch]

do you know how many times

i have verbally threatened him

[limber lion]

I'm sure JPC will overtake me again in a few days

[ebon notch]

eventually it will become a reality

whats ur key cev

[limber lion]

idk

bedtime

[oak sky]

yeah hes going venthyr

he might

[obtuse robin]

oh im 321 on all stars i didnt even realize

im also coming

[oak sky]

im 441 🙂

[limber lion]

it's okay, I'll be getting a 259 dagger from vault and a 259 off hand from our sylv kill

so we'll be chillin

[obtuse robin]

[ebon notch]

on 2nd rogue?

[oak sky]

or wait

thats

mythic?

idk

[limber lion]

bedge

behave yourselves poison boys

[oak sky]

oh yeah im ass in heroic

lol

[ebon notch]

i got told off by whispyr last night

for being too rowdy

[obtuse robin]

yes u did

[ebon notch]

bro nobody was asking questions

except that guy who upgraded one gem from each set to rank 5

LMAO

[oak sky]

r5 frost next week

[obtuse robin]

god bless

[oak sky]

and i get hands off eye any difficulty

[obtuse robin]

have never seen the shoulders from terra drop yet

doesnt exsist

[oak sky]

i got them in mythic

[ebon notch]

i got them in vault this week

on mythic

hehhehee

[oak sky]

the terra shoulders is worse than hc kt

tarra

[obtuse robin]

ill be seeing kt after 9.1.5 at this rate tho

unless pain smith somehow goes good

[oak sky]

heroic

[obtuse robin]

myhtic

[oak sky]

kt

is better

[obtuse robin]

oh

[oak sky]

in my sim anyway

[obtuse robin]

u might be right

[ebon notch]

i only killed 2 bosses on mythic this week

no chesto

sadge

[oak sky]

i killed 6 😄

[ebon notch]

but its ok im getting double heroic sylv daggers np

[obtuse robin]

dam benchign the boiy?

sad

[ebon notch]

no we extended

[oak sky]

they were extendo i think

[ebon notch]

killed guardian and fate

no wait

just fate

and kt

ye

[oak sky]

we might kill fate tom

idk

[ebon notch]

fate is

giga easy

as long as your raid learns how to stand in grim portent

[oak sky]

we have like 3 pulls

[ebon notch]

bro it turns out one of our raiders couldnt see the great portent thingy

so they just started guessing

and we lost like 4 pulls till we figured out what was happening

[oak sky]

lol

i messed it up on the first pull

i had the debuff

didnt know which one to go to

now ik its just the malevolence vfx above it

[balmy condor]

yeh but that doesn't mean it's shitpost season

that's what #off-topic is for

[ebon notch]

when is shitpost season

i need to mark it in my calendar

[oak sky]

same

fml

rift chest just despawned as i clicked it

[soft shale]

yea it happens sometimes it was changing places

[oak sky]

yeah

but that doesnt change the fact that i want to die rn

[soft shale]

do 10 sit upts

and it spawns again

[oak sky]

same spot?

[soft shale]

nope

[vast forum]

nop

[soft shale]

diff one

[oak sky]

thats what i thought

now i need to check

ooh cool i got the deaths advance flying mount

[brazen zodiac]

finally was able to get my fatescribe parse up >.<

runebitch qq

[obtuse robin]

link it u wont

[ebon notch]

btw @obtuse robin i went theotar today

rolled 4 times never got crit

good game

agil twice vers twice haste once

[grand ridge]

with dashing scoundrel in raid, has anyone tried it in keys? is it any good?

[ebon notch]

its fine

keep the envenom buff up

havent done it in like 23+ keys

[grand ridge]

ill give it a shot ty

[ebon notch]

but 20s it should be fine

[balmy condor]

strictly worse than something like zold

or even doom tbh

[brazen zodiac]

@obtuse robin https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/badbttch#difficulty=4

[balmy condor]

but it's good enough for people I guess

[brazen zodiac]

theyre no CEV parses but we workin on it

i whispyr i hope ur having a great night! :D

[obtuse robin]

[grand ridge]

I have a 235 zoldyck

I think I am going to give it a shot due to itemization

[balmy condor]

I went to my guilds heroic run and they wiped to painsmith 3 times

and then wiped to guardian

so I fucking dipped

[brazen zodiac]

oh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-kitten-kitty-shy-gif-17733420

if it makes u feel better my bfs guild fell apart 10 minutes after they started forming for mythic

f

[balmy condor]

yikes

[brazen zodiac]

im hoping to be 4/10 this tuesday!

got to 33 on soulrender without bl lmfao

[ebon notch]

what how

[obtuse robin]

ur guild is doing soul b4 nurzul?

[ebon notch]

please say it was because they got the bug with the traps during intermission

[brazen zodiac]

yeah they are

[obtuse robin]

why

[brazen zodiac]

we have two 2 dks

so ig thats why

[balmy condor]

because they're idiots I guess idk

[obtuse robin]

or

your raid has no priests

[brazen zodiac]

is there like a real reason to do it in order idk

no we do

[obtuse robin]

well yea nurzul is easier

[brazen zodiac]

hm

[obtuse robin]

much eassier

[brazen zodiac]

soul doesnt seem to hard, but it is kinda a snooze

[obtuse robin]

let me guess

[brazen zodiac]

honestly our biggest issue is just people dying to fuckin torment lol

[obtuse robin]

u have no chain duties

[brazen zodiac]

just not reacting enough

oh i do

3rd chain 3 group

3rd chain squad where we @

[bleak sky]

Tbh both are giga free with 2 priests / 2 dks

[obtuse robin]

another rogue on 3rd chain

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

[obtuse robin]

3rd chain gang

[brazen zodiac]

3rd chain gangang

i rly like doing mehcnaics idk

[obtuse robin]

i guess but nurzul is so much easier

never gonna parse with that attitude

[brazen zodiac]

i dont see how i was able to improve my fatescribe so drastically. i did start throwin daggers and applying dots before running out lmfao

guess thats all it takes

idk if ur rly good u can parse and do mehcnaics!!!!!!!!!!!

[obtuse robin]

well u thorw daggers when he middle

to keep ala up

if doing rune

[brazen zodiac]

yeah but i also just started throwing when running runes on the adds and stuff

[ebon notch]

@brazen zodiac link log

[brazen zodiac]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/badbttch#difficulty=4

i did b4 but here u go

[ebon notch]

very nice

what frost set you running

[brazen zodiac]

tbh one of my biggest issue was uh pre-running out when the runes havent stopped moving? idk why i did that lfmao

uhh

tier 4

wont be tier 5 for 2 weeks f

[ebon notch]

i got rank 1 by ignoring the runes

so

[brazen zodiac]

thats

thats pretty based idk bro

LMFAO

i rather just do mechanics and 1 shot then uh rely on other people and spend gold

no trust

[obtuse robin]

thats not how we roll round these parts

we ignore mechanics

we pop def cd's to ignore and dps

[brazen zodiac]

oh i do do that for some stuff

[obtuse robin]

we use cheat death to keep dpsing

[brazen zodiac]

LMFAO

honestly if ur cheat death isnt on constantly on cd ur playing wrong idk

i tried leveling dk cause was thinkin of making another op character but

dk feels os slow compared to rogue lol

plus apaprently it doesnt pump as much as my bf hyped it up to

[ebon notch]

https://i.imgur.com/KY9iZSG.png

peep this uptime

never stop hitting shit

if ur out of range hit ur tank

hes built for it

keep that uptime up

[brazen zodiac]

huh

[ebon notch]

the only downtime should be when you're shadowstepping to hit more things

[brazen zodiac]

dude i shadowstepped to fatescribe when he was in the middle

i got fucking pwned

[ebon notch]

xd

[brazen zodiac]

shit hit me for liek 20394812094812098419208412 damage on the chart

u pump

my damage shit

f

[ebon notch]

??

wtf

did you or did you not

kill the boss

[brazen zodiac]

ya

wait

[ebon notch]

thats all that matters lmao

once you get good at killing it

then focus on numbers

[brazen zodiac]

hm

press more buttons

ignore runes

GOT IT

[ebon notch]

what have i done

[brazen zodiac]

do u keep ct up when shiv's off cd or am i inting myself

[obtuse robin]

ur inting

[brazen zodiac]

u just caused pugs to fall apart at fatescribe mister

fk

[obtuse robin]

never in shiv window

[ebon notch]

shiv is giga prio

[brazen zodiac]

i meant

[ebon notch]

ct whenever you dont have to refresh bleeds

[brazen zodiac]

shiv on cd

mb

[ebon notch]

and no shiv available

[brazen zodiac]

chiv on cd

[obtuse robin]

yes on cd

[brazen zodiac]

i never ct when shiv off cd

[obtuse robin]

still inting

[brazen zodiac]

that is giga int

LMFAO

[ebon notch]

sometimes its nice to pool a bit before your shiv

but you should rly be doing that before its off cd

[brazen zodiac]

idrk how to pool in a sense that like

idk i cant not press buttons lfmao

im not like starved per say but

i def could get 1 more evnom in rip

[ebon notch]

nah wtf

its not ebout

shoving envenoms into shivs

[brazen zodiac]

yeah?

edcuate me sir

[ebon notch]

its about using it on cd to maximise damage

[brazen zodiac]

before black comes and drops 9348092384 more L's on my ass

[ebon notch]

black is mean

but he speaks the truth

[brazen zodiac]

black is a mere teacher

[ebon notch]

just go through my log and see waht i do

thats how i did it

[obtuse robin]

not pooling b4 shiv

[brazen zodiac]

L received sir >.<

[ebon notch]

ive spent hours looking at cevs logs checking cd timings and stuff

some real nerd shit

[brazen zodiac]

i tried doing my own log reviews and stuff and doing the same

but im kinda new and not really sure if im lookin right

honestly ur not playing rogue if u havent stalked cev's logs for at least 4 hours a week

[ebon notch]

best thing i can recommend is

just spamming groups

[brazen zodiac]

wym

[ebon notch]

and doing the same bosses over and over

and trying different shit

[brazen zodiac]

ohh

hm

PPFPTTT

i like ur guild name haha

[ebon notch]

tyty

had winds of winter hit for

120k

LMAO

https://i.imgur.com/h3HY1Zx.png

here

[brazen zodiac]

lmfao

is the ring from plaguefall bis

[ebon notch]

the crit haste crit heavy one?

[brazen zodiac]

was it haste too? thought it was ves

but yeah the heavy crit one

i guess it would be xd

[ebon notch]

find the wowhead link

pls

[brazen zodiac]

i cant

my computer will explode if i touch those sites

[balmy condor]

its crit haste

[inner cobalt]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=178933/arachnid-cipher-ring?bonus=6805:1472

[brazen zodiac]

ty

and here i thought i was done with plaguefall >.<

[ebon notch]

yes its giga bis

im running it with sylvanas ring

[brazen zodiac]

my rings are so haste heavy fk

this was when i thought haste was primary f

[ebon notch]

do a droptimiser sim

and sim yourself

i did it before i got some gear and there were some items at 246 that were over 100 dps increases

[brazen zodiac]

yeah i did a while back rip. kinda sucks doin it one by one but ima do it rn

[ebon notch]

wdym 1 by 1

[brazen zodiac]

i dont have a sub so can't run all at once

and it's kinda lame opening 10 tabs xd

[ebon notch]

ah fk you cant sim all the dungeons?

go through and look which most likely have best stats

and then sim those

[sterile ocean]

did they buff some the legendairys this week?

[balmy condor]

nop

[sterile ocean]

was gonna say my gear hasnt changed its not telling me Doomblade it was dashing

was simming with one my other gems i dident look at

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7cCgWBTgvsF9X1JQ758K93

from the one you did to @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

you run blood set?

[sterile ocean]

i was simming with my max gems thats blood

i got frost atm

[balmy condor]

I don't understand what I'm supposed to look at sorry

[cobalt pelican]

ominous shard of tel

pranked

[balmy condor]

yeah idk

[sterile ocean]

Basicly last sim ya did for me whisp

it was dashing

[balmy condor]

my guy I run so many sims for so many people

I have no memory what or why I simmed something for you

[cobalt pelican]

what on earth

what are you doing

[balmy condor]

yeah I have no clue

what's going on in this sim

rank 5 blood versus rank 2? 3? frost vs rank 4 unholy

[sterile ocean]

i have a rank 1 i was looking if it had it in now or a rank 5

[ebon notch]

you have many shards

[balmy condor]

I don't know what you're trying to say sorry

[obtuse robin]

no wonder my sims are slow

this mf taking all the processes

[brazen zodiac]

that is a lot of shar-

lmfao black

[cobalt pelican]

if you're just trying to sim rank 5s uncheck everything besides portentous

[ebon notch]

hes stolen all my shards bruh

[cobalt pelican]

if you're trying to sim what you own just tick what you own

[ebon notch]

@balmy condor the way you do the painsmith intermission is super trippy but i love it

[cobalt pelican]

legendaries are very in flux if you have very low shard sets

[brazen zodiac]

how do they do it? :o

[ebon notch]

https://www.twitch.tv/whispyrttv/clip/FurtiveBloodyJellyfishNotLikeThis-x6qiCJVJ2yfIQxYt

[obtuse robin]

backwards gang

[brazen zodiac]

mans jammin AND GAMIN

[balmy condor]

I did it that way just out of boredom

[brazen zodiac]

i find painsmith super fun haha

[balmy condor]

watching people run into spikes on painsmith intermission

[obtuse robin]

the mechanic lover over here

[balmy condor]

is super pain

[obtuse robin]

[balmy condor]

took 2-3 hours for more than half the raid to be alive at the end of an intermission

[obtuse robin]

i wish half the raid was just patchwerk

[balmy condor]

was gouging my eyes out

[sterile ocean]

@cobalt pelican thank you

[brazen zodiac]

rip

having people die to torment is rly fuckin lame tbh

cant imagine how it feels on painsmith

i'll knwo when i get there >:)

[arctic walrus]

@balmy condor that is trippy wtf

[ebon notch]

same

after the first few pulls

i went deathless for like 3 prog days

and we had 12 total hours on that boss

[cobalt pelican]

pretty hard to die when cheat works

[vast forum]

my guy, i respect the grind, showing all the brainlets that intermission is piss easy 😄

[vale shore]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[torn atlas]

Is there a way to sim a fight similar to sylvanas? Like can I make the sim boss die at 50% or something to get a rough idea?