#assassination

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balmy condor
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if you're trying to aoe balls, fok away

kind talon
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makes sense thank you brother

hollow river
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Poison applications on balls give u regen no?

oak sky
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we arent sub besad

kind talon
oak sky
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you would have to rupture or garrote the target anyway

balmy condor
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with dashing

oak sky
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o

balmy condor
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I assume that's what you mean

hollow river
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I thought dp gave regen

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Have I been lied to

kind talon
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no

oak sky
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idk dashing because i still cant craft it

obsidian socket
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Lord jeezy

balmy condor
kind talon
hollow river
kind talon
oak sky
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You regain 8 Energy each time your

Internal Bleeding
Garrote, Rupture, or Internal Bleeding

Garrote or Rupture deal Bleed damage to a poisoned target.

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lol

balmy condor
oak sky
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great minds....

balmy condor
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idk I skipped the rest

kind talon
obsidian socket
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You energize 8 regens on a targeted poison

kind talon
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@balmy condor

balmy condor
kind talon
oak sky
hollow river
obsidian socket
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Das a talent wtf

oak sky
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venom rush build inc

kind talon
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no its not

balmy condor
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seems very sick

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does it feel better though?

kind talon
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IT FEELS SO GOOD

oak sky
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so called "talents" when they're in the alacrity row

hollow river
kind talon
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why is this an emote

hollow river
balmy condor
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have you never seen the wonders of ravenholdt emotes

kind talon
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i mean ive seen it plenty of times

obsidian socket
kind talon
hollow river
kind talon
hollow river
oak sky
woeful meteor
hollow river
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Love this

kind talon
oak sky
balmy condor
hollow river
balmy condor
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tell me you've seen any of these

hollow river
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Nop

kind talon
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ive seen sandbag

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hachadino is a proficient user of that one

oak sky
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having nitro omegalul

kind talon
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but the others ive not

hollow river
obsidian socket
balmy condor
kind talon
balmy condor
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anyway

hollow river
balmy condor
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yeh

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weird spec

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please rework talents

hollow river
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So many emotes now

balmy condor
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venom rush is doggers

kind talon
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make venomrush usabke

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that would be

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so nice

balmy condor
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hidden blades can get out of here

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poison bomb too

oak sky
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alliance 🤜 🤛 horde

kind talon
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pad talent

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🤮

oak sky
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hb

balmy condor
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ma as a talent sucks

oak sky
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what a fun talent

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🙂

balmy condor
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mp is too weak for anything useful

kind talon
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@balmy condor ok so theoretically

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on soulrender

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could u run hb for max pad

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or what

hollow river
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Wait I thought dashing scoundrel was the passive

balmy condor
oak sky
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thats the leggo

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@kind talon or you can help your raid by damaging the boss kekw

balmy condor
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I don't think it would be better than CT

kind talon
balmy condor
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but it's better than pb

kind talon
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theyre all running CT RHsad

balmy condor
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yeh

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CT is better

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so makes sense

oak sky
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pb is functional

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it just feels shit when the adds come out

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i got a better parse with pb on heroic somehow

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must have had really good rng

spice spire
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Boss moving with Pb feels GIGA bad tho

kind talon
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wait so if u have HB

balmy condor
kind talon
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do u send a 20 stack in ST?

balmy condor
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yes

spice spire
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Nah

kind talon
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LMAO

slow marsh
spice spire
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Nothing feels worse than hb to me

oak sky
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no shot im running hb

slow marsh
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I'ma just gonna run outlaw next week I think

kind talon
oak sky
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no cool noise besad

spice spire
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Not even the pain of daily life Sadge

oak sky
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ur right though

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no shot i find a guild

kind talon
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new guild when

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there is a big shot u find a guild

oak sky
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🕐

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times are everything

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every 1/10M guild has hit me up by now omegalul

slow marsh
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Same actually I might be getting a job where I have to work during a raid night so might have to change guilds for temp or Perma

balmy condor
oak sky
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i have college starting back up soon

slow marsh
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Dang 25% increased ambush to 8 targets sounds juicy

spice spire
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That’s cap

slow marsh
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Clown never works for me

oak sky
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every guild raids too early im not tryna miss dinner

spice spire
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He lacked the critical information pepeclown

kind talon
oak sky
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not worth it

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lol

kind talon
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find a latenight

balmy condor
kind talon
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look at different servers

slow marsh
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My wife mad that I raid 4 hours Friday and sat night

balmy condor
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but now give it a 40 second cooldown

oak sky
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doing that now

balmy condor
spice spire
slow marsh
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So I'm gonna swap to a 3/3/ week guild

kind talon
oak sky
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ye

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i probably want 8 or after pst start time

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maybe 730

slow marsh
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Am willing to xfer for guild hmu

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It's such a meme to me looking for guilds

obsidian socket
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Just be gud and sign up

slow marsh
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I applied to this realm 35 horde guild on malganis and they told me they weren't interested

obsidian socket
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Instant invite

slow marsh
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Like wtf is that

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Imagine the only rogue in your guild is a shitty alt that green parses and I apply and you just say you're not interested

delicate berry
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Some people don't care about parses

obsidian socket
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That’s honesty bs but people hate rogues for mythic prog

oak sky
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right now thats pretty troll tbh

obsidian socket
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At top 100 level

oak sky
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not true

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1 or 2 rogues is all over

slow marsh
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I mean it's whatevs

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I wouldn't say no rogues for prog is trolling but for most guilds it actually is

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The only reason you would run 0 rogues is for full dps raid cds

obsidian socket
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I think the perception and the sentence “ don’t bring a rogue” is stigmatized in peoples heads since max said it or something

oak sky
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limit was gonna run a rogue dude

slow marsh
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But guarantee they aren't even using them properly

oak sky
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if it got gear

kind veldt
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Max was saying if their RNG for Dom sockets went on a rogue they woulda brought one

oak sky
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exactly

kind veldt
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Some good guilds ran 2 rogues

slow marsh
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Yeah he did say that

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It was just Dom rng for most guilds in rwf

oak sky
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im pretty sure in top 10 most of the guilds ran a rogue or 2

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just not limit and echo

frosty bridge
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They would’ve

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Just bad rng

slow marsh
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Echo did for the fights they could

cursive silo
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no set no dagger

oak sky
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even limit ran a rogue on guardian i think

balmy condor
oak sky
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i dont actually remember

frosty bridge
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Max said they would’ve run it on sylvanas if loot was better

slow marsh
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Not having rogue on guardian is actually hard trolling

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Like I would be stacking 4 rogues with enhance for that shit

woeful meteor
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Echo also tried rogue for sylv

frosty bridge
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Just gotta kill sylvy and im going back necro, most fun i had playing sin ever

slow marsh
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It was just too easy of a fight tho

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The only dps check fight was soulrender before nerf and sylv but only because of trying to get it before reset

balmy condor
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reminder that pieces used 3 sub rogues on painsmith btw

slow marsh
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I think rogues will be a real problem next tier

kind veldt
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They are able to FoK the balls and funnel evs into the boss

slow marsh
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We kinda slipping under the radar rn tbh

cursive silo
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depends what next tier gearing is

oak sky
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depends on tier sets tho right?

slow marsh
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Not even

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I mean yeah but no

cursive silo
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yes even

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if rogues don't deal damage you don't take any lol

slow marsh
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That's what I mean though. We do bonkers dam right now

kind veldt
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I mean… pure dps classes like, rogue, mage, locks, hunters, should always be the top of dps as their class only can DPS IMO

oak sky
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yeah but tier sets and tuning are likely to change things

cursive silo
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yea but if next tier set gives 5% damage to rogue and 20% to mage you get mages and not rogues

slow marsh
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Well true

kind veldt
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Just be thankful that blizzard actually made this tier melee friendly

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Lmfao

wide ridge
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are tier sets confirmed for 9.2?

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or you guys are just copium

slow marsh
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But what I mean is that we aren't getting touched going into next tier and we're already on the verge of needing nerfs by blizz standards ... So as long as we get reasonable power the same as everyone else it's gonna be nutty

oak sky
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theyre confirmed or ion lied to our faces @wide ridge

slow marsh
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I mean it is ion

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So

oak sky
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explicitly stated "in our next adventure" we have tier sets

cursive silo
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ion doesn't lie

slow marsh
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Dom sets could be tier sets

oak sky
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no

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like

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he said

slow marsh
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By ion rules

oak sky
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tier sets

cursive silo
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tier set doesn't mean anything

slow marsh
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I used to be excited about that too but I'm not getting my hopes up

oak sky
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nah

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theres definitely tier sets next raid

charred wraith
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they thought shards were like tier sets this patch, dont get you hopes highLaRolf

cursive silo
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they are

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they are a set of item

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that last foor the tier

oak sky
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except they arent for each class

kind talon
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hello guys

cursive silo
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yea so they aren't class sets

kind talon
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whats up

oak sky
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nothing, just talking about assassination rogue

quasi ledge
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It's gonna be like coming out if Uldir though, will lose so much power before we can get tier

oak sky
charred wraith
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except they arent tied to spec specific abilities or something else

oak sky
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which means they cant be balanced class by class

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love dommy shards 😄

frosty bridge
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Anything you guys want from 9.1.5

charred wraith
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any content to play around

balmy condor
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a talent rework

cursive silo
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good raid

frosty bridge
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So i can redirect it to my uncle at Blizzard

abstract flicker
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timewalking m+

oak sky
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raid utility copium

frosty bridge
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I second the talent reworking

slow marsh
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Talent rework 100%

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Take it over smoke bomb tbh

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Though smoke bomb would be 2nd on the list

oak sky
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im still hoping that them waiting on raid utility means we get something special

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and not something lame

balmy condor
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Lmao

frosty bridge
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Nerfs kekw

balmy condor
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Imagine thinking we’re getting something special

oak sky
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just react with copium no need to say it outright

slow marsh
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Imagine anyone at blizz plays rogue in the first place

kind talon
slow marsh
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We are just a pvp class to them

zinc frost
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We just got solo expeditions a whole expansion later, like how greedy can you all be

frosty bridge
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Theoretically you can have 2 legendaries

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What would you guys take

kind talon
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bro

oak sky
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rogue is real copege

kind talon
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2 legendaries

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would be so bad

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for sub

slow marsh
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Na

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Finality and obed

balmy condor
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Would be okay

oak sky
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sin with 2 leggos 😳

slow marsh
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Dashing and doom or zold

kind talon
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compared to like all other specs

halcyon zealot
kind talon
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would be so bad for sub

balmy condor
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Nah

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Deathly + obed

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Would be the play

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Tbh

slow marsh
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Over finality?

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Weird

frosty bridge
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Prepull deathly tho

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For sub

oak sky
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someone had a take that you might get a covenant leggo and a normal leggo

frosty bridge
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You would technically have 2.5 leggos

oak sky
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sounds awful and restrictive

balmy condor
oak sky
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which means its happening

halcyon zealot
frosty bridge
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Lel

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Wdym doing 22k opener is fun

balmy condor
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Prepull legendaries are janky garbage

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Shouldn’t exist in the first place

slow marsh
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I wouldn't mind obed for free

frosty bridge
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Yeah, it’s bs

balmy condor
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And it’s a fucking travesty that they do

slow marsh
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Would force rogues into venth tho

zinc frost
oak sky
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yeah you might not mind obe for free but what about classes with shit covenant leggos

frosty bridge
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Covenant leggos becoming baseline or the only 2nd legendary u can have sounds likely

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I kinda hope by 9.3 we have insane borrowed power like 8.3

oak sky
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imagine you play dk or something idk if theirs are good actually

slow marsh
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Most have a decent option at least

kind talon
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dk's are insane

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so fucking good

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lmao

frosty bridge
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Arms would be so broken wirh 2 leggos

slow marsh
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It's just they aren't better than the other choices

frosty bridge
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Holy fk

kind talon
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arms would be ok

frosty bridge
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Battlelord + Enduring

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Would be nuts

oak sky
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swapping covenants just for the leggo next patch and being stuck on a shitty covenant because the leggo is better

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yikes

slow marsh
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Sounds like blizz

kind talon
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would be the most broken

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spec

oak sky
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skb with disc command or what?

frosty bridge
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Ugh ogh

kind talon
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and sin would be

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obe dashing

oak sky
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??????

kind talon
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or doomblade dashing

oak sky
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no more frost set next tier

kind talon
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oops

zinc frost
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Can’t wait for invigorating shadow dust and tiny toxic blade

kind talon
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obedience

oak sky
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doomblade might just come back

slow marsh
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Dashing is still good without frost even before

oak sky
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or go zoldyck for execute

kind talon
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nah

oak sky
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yeah dashing was good but everyone ran doomblade anyway

kind talon
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no zold

slow marsh
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Imo I would for sure run zold

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If you get it for free

oak sky
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m+ obe.... i guess

slow marsh
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Zold with dashing is synergy

oak sky
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eh

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zoldyck doesnt buff envenom

slow marsh
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Doesnt have to

hollow river
slow marsh
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Zold gives us the only raid utility we'll ever get

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Which is execute

hollow river
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o.O

frosty bridge
slow marsh
slow marsh
hollow river
halcyon zealot
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we’ve got an outlaw one trick in our raid and she fuckin pumps, i’ve been considering giving it a go again, just need a wep

hollow river
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i got lucky and got 252 outlaw wep from vault

frosty bridge
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Be blessed with le veinripper

hollow river
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opened as outlaw literally 1 week and got it

wintry mica
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outlaws good, but i dont have a wep yet either

frosty bridge
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I got the 252 nine weapon, still no Smithy P fist

slow marsh
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It's honestly not as bad as I thought it would be.

hollow river
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i want veinripper too though

wintry mica
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i cant bring myself to open as outlaw with how bad my daggers are

frosty bridge
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As soon as i have 2x sylvy daggers its outlaw loot all the way

oak sky
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i would open as outlaw but i need h sylv dagger

slow marsh
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I got a valor pox with my 252 dagger OH. Could use a heroic painsmith but whatevs

hollow river
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i got lucky on H sylv dagger and H remnant dagger

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i need a 252

wintry mica
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yea if i had a sylv dagger id probably be swapping for it

oak sky
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yeah i have a 252 and remnant dagger

wintry mica
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i got a remnant dagger and that korthia dagger lol

oak sky
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oof

slow marsh
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Normal sylv dagger is better OH than 252 dagger for outlaw by like 50 dps

hollow river
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i'm not gonna bother farming Pox for 246

wintry mica
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yea heroic sylv dagger is like 180 dps for me right now

kind talon
hollow river
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since i have 252 mace im just gonna wait for Veinripper

wintry mica
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I havent seen a dagger drop since 9.1

slow marsh
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I just got pox while farming phial so

wintry mica
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got korthia dagger and a remnant dagger from the vault lol

hollow river
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i think PF dagger 246 would be better for sub/sin

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than me going outlaw loot spec while farming phial

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but thats just cause of my set up atm

wintry mica
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would you be mad if you got the dagger instead of phial?

slow marsh
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You're gonna hate me

hollow river
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nah

wintry mica
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then stay sin

slow marsh
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I already had 252 pf dag and valor dag

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Both pf crit dags

hollow river
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im using 246 edge of night and 239 remnant dagger

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oof

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so uhh

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iceblades

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come to pf with me

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plx

wintry mica
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lol

slow marsh
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I'm ally

hollow river
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that's fiiiine

slow marsh
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K

hollow river
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we can get you transferred

wintry mica
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you can make it work

hollow river
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😄

slow marsh
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K

hollow river
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lol

slow marsh
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Set me up with a guild and I'm down

hollow river
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orly

slow marsh
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I'm tired of @balmy condor trolling me for being ally anyways

hollow river
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O:

balmy condor
kind veldt
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@slow marsh mechagnome OP OP

limber lion
hollow river
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if my current guild didn't have another rogue already i'd bet they'd be willing to

limber lion
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Whispyr is such a troll, jeez

hollow river
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one of my old guilds might tho idk

slow marsh
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Ikr

balmy condor
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:(

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What I do

slow marsh
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He's such a troll I resubbed today so he could keep trolling me

oak sky
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everything.

hollow river
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apparently Cev is Alliance now

limber lion
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Method made me do it

kind talon
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Sadge

hollow river
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are you being serious

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or troll

slow marsh
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Are you mechagnome tho

oak sky
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no shot

balmy condor
wintry mica
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lol

hollow river
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they want WFA

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World First Alliance

limber lion
hollow river
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oWOW

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thats rude

oak sky
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alliance meta coming poggers

limber lion
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But tbh

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Alliance races are pretty cool

wintry mica
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alliance has some good races

slow marsh
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WHAT ARE YOU THO

oak sky
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blizzard fixes faction imbalance by forcing world first guilds to go alliance

limber lion
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I would honestly play Alliance if Horde didn't dominate the entire game

balmy condor
oak sky
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half my guys i would want on alliance tbh

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dark iron dwarf monk alt 😳

limber lion
slow marsh
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And RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

kind talon
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Menscaped

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No shot cev said that

hollow river
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Cev are u gonna start streaming RuneScape now?

balmy condor
hollow river
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since you're part of Method

slow marsh
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Menscaped is the eu version of manscaped

kind talon
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omegalul trueeee

spice spire
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How do you know that monkaW

balmy condor
hollow river
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🙃

limber lion
kind talon
spice spire
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Hello?

hollow river
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ok guys

slow marsh
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So ez

hollow river
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gentlemen

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things are starting to get

balmy condor
hollow river
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a little too spicy

spice spire
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lmao

limber lion
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I can't fucking wait for that shit

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ngl

balmy condor
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Just a couple of lads on a Monday night

echo cargo
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Sap it and tap it 🪤

oak sky
hollow river
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that'd be cool

delicate berry
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And they want no tricks

hollow river
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i lost interest in RS years ago

limber lion
hollow river
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nice nice

sudden canyon
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any1 use ZenTracker for cd's

limber lion
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Yeh, I've used it in the past and planning on getting it in the future as well when I start pushing m+

sinful citrus
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Finally got a sylv dagger so happy

limber lion
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Grats!

sinful citrus
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Broke the 10k club too now to force my ele sham guildmate to simp for my dps on farm lol

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For soulrender mythic is it worth to run crimson tempest? Or just full send st with pb?

slow marsh
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Ok I actually updated my wowprog now let's see if I cant get 5 top 50 guilds to dm me within 5 hours

slow marsh
oak sky
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lets go iceblades

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u swapping horde or what?

slow marsh
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I'd be down to

oak sky
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thats cool

slow marsh
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Thanks dooder!

oak sky
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gl

slow marsh
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Thanks, the idea of leaving my current guild makes me sad in some ways cuz I've come to be good friends with some of them but I'd rather move on to something more competitive that works better for my schedule than force myself to stay in a raid schedule that isn't working for me anymore on top of the more casual vibe

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So we'll see what happens I guess

oak sky
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if they're good friends you can probably do other content with them anyway

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at least hopefully

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idk if you do m+ and whatnot

hollow river
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they'd be on alliance

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so if he does horde he couldn't unless he left an alt on alliance

hollow river
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still a couple people i play with from my old guilds

short token
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so at 45% crit i'm seeing a +38 dps gain switching to frost? is the difference really that small? does more crit now increase my dps more noticeably?

dawn ivy
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crit certainly becomes your biggest stat weight yeah

drifting cloud
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can you please just link the sim instead of describing it, theres no way with same parameteres its 40 dps

woeful meteor
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Did you compare same set lvl?

hollow river
drifting cloud
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you either have lower set lvl, or maybe not 5 sockets

hollow river
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covenant/ilvl/legendary

drifting cloud
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or yeah you might be necro

woeful meteor
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R5 frost vs r5 unholy/blood should be bigger

short token
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i am necro

dawn ivy
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if youre switching from unholy, frost defensiveness is kinda massive

short token
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is it only a venthyr thing?

dawn ivy
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no

hollow river
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necro has a hard time getting Dashing to sim ahead

woeful meteor
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No

hollow river
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frost should still sim higher

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with doomblade

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as necro

short token
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doomblade really?

dawn ivy
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frost is fine with necro, necro just makes dahsing not mesh

short token
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let me sim that..one sec

hollow river
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yea

wintry mica
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doomblade is still really good

hollow river
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^

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im venthyr with frost

short token
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f me for crafting a 262 dashing 😦 lol

hollow river
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i use doomblade still

short token
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i might swap venth tho

dawn ivy
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nah dashing is still pog

hollow river
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venth is nice for raid

dawn ivy
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its not like youre missing hundreds of dps

hollow river
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its like 100 dps for me atm

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im sure with more ilvl itll be more

short token
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wow 100? i'm at 38 at 244 ilvl

hollow river
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im 239/240

hollow river
short token
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i see

hollow river
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i meant for dashing

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not frost

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frost was wayyy ahead of unholy for me

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when i was 230 ilvl

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with 30% crit

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R4 frost was like 300 dps > R4 unholy i think for me

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wasn't small

short token
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jeez

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i'm seeing nothing near that

drifting cloud
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please just link the sim

woeful meteor
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Frost gains a lot from lvling your set how high is yours?

hollow river
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sim yourself as venthyr

short token
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but...let's see how doomblade sims with it

wintry mica
#

pop in maim conduit too

short token
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my gems? r4

drifting cloud
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the lego isnt gonna make a noticable difference

short token
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foreboding

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is r4 yeah?

drifting cloud
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its just since most people had db, when youre necro crafting dashing becomes even less useful

short token
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or is that r3?

hollow river
#

thats r4

short token
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ok

hollow river
#

iirc

short token
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yeah that's what i got

hollow river
#

after u put in doomblade

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link sim

short token
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ok, it's almost done

hollow river
#

might not be a big difference

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but Ryler might find something more for da gainz for u

short token
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i can add a lot more crit with the crit trinket from guardians i think, the decanter

oak sky
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from horny garrosh

short token
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ok...

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weird results

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dashing + frost = 9,175 dps doomblade + frost = 9,172 dps

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so i lost dps

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going back to doomblade

halcyon zealot
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3 dps is almost certainly in the margin of error

drifting cloud
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you ahve 3 sockets

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thats why

short token
#

?

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i need all 4?

drifting cloud
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you need all 5

short token
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wait wtf

drifting cloud
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youre missing dyz with frost set

short token
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how am i this dumb

drifting cloud
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which is 150 dps

dawn ivy
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LAL

oak sky
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you alr have the bonus

drifting cloud
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and the blood one which is another 100

short token
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where are my toher frost gmes?

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gems?

oak sky
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you just get the dps gems from the other 2

short token
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or do i put in unholy

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for the other 2?

drifting cloud
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no you just need dominaton slots

short token
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wait, i apologize slow down for me...so i ahve 2 other sockets, i drop in ilvl severely though

drifting cloud
#

frost set is composed of 2 utility gems

short token
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because they're chest and gloves

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which other 2 gems do i use?

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in those dom slots

drifting cloud
#

dyz and bek

wintry mica
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they are worth the ilvl loss

halcyon zealot
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the dps ones from the 2 sets you aren’t using all 3 from

short token
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ok so blood and unholy

hollow river
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um

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that shouldn't matter

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comparing just 3 unholy to 3 frost

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.>?

woeful meteor
drifting cloud
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ofc it matters?

short token
#

guys, i'm confused about the gems...

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i have 3 frost gems right?

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they're socketed

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i have 6 other gems 3 blood 3 unoly

hollow river
#

do u have 5 socket gear slots

short token
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yes

drifting cloud
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yes so like a heroic gloves/chest

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with correct gem

hollow river
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then socket

drifting cloud
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will be more dps

short token
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i have normal gloves unfortunately

hollow river
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with 1 UH dps and 1 blood dps gem

drifting cloud
#

239 + gem > 252 no gem

short token
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and heroic chest

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what about 226 gloves

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compared to 252 unsocketed

hollow river
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socket Bek and Dyz

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iirc

drifting cloud
#

yeah just run a sim and you will know in 2mins

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in topgear

short token
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yikes and my chest is 2233

hollow river
#

you'd have to sim that specifically

short token
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*233

hollow river
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but u need to socket those

short token
#

ok

hollow river
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and sim it lol

short token
#

but i'm asking which specific gems

hollow river
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Bek and Dyz

short token
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do i put in the other 2 pieces

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ty

wintry mica
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they said dyz and bek like 6 times lol

hollow river
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yep

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lol

short token
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sorry i'm going from screen to screen

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and missing some things

strange crown
short token
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should i level up my bek?

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it's r 1

wintry mica
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r3 only takes like 20 embers

short token
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ok lemme rank that up real fast

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before i sim

drifting cloud
#

you dont have to level it up

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just sim with r1 first

hollow river
short token
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ok

drifting cloud
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because if spending 20 would delay your r5 frost by a week it would be worse

short token
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lol

hollow river
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get all rank 5 frost first

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before spending on that

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lol

short token
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my ilvl dropped to 241

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😦

hollow river
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you'll live 🙂

short token
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u want me to do a top gear?

oak sky
#

ilvl doesnt matter if you do more damage

short token
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or a quick sim

hollow river
#

top gear

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and click the other gear u had on too

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to see which is better

short token
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omfg

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i did NOT have the last soulbind unlocked at my conduit

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i'm so embarassed

woeful meteor
#

That isn’t that much

short token
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ok

hollow river
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shit happens

clever kindle
#

Look I raided a night in mythic without my sin conduits in so

short token
#

still...it's embarassing

clever kindle
#

You're fine

short token
#

LOL ty ryu

clever kindle
wintry mica
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ive got more than one kill with my org teleport cloak on lol

clear shadow
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just did a 15 PF with dashing and god damn deadly poison did as much as my envenom

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drifting cloud
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I did 1h of painsmith prog without a set

woeful meteor
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Limit max got aotc without a soulbind all good

clever kindle
#

gear and conduits are a crutch

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!

short token
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haha

drowsy parcel
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@strange crown you simmed with a lower frost gem rank

hollow river
drowsy parcel
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dashing is +130 dps for me as necro PES2_Shrug

hollow river
clever kindle
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Shouldnt be but maybe based on your stat balances

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Not like bonesmith doesnt have a fully crit based conduit which is the most valuable in the whole tree

hollow river
short token
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i went down big time

slow marsh
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Dashing is still bis with frost as Necro, it's just that doomblade holds on for longer as Necro because sbs counts as a bleed for doom

short token
#

try with dashing now?

drifting cloud
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your sockets are empty

short token
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huh?

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how?

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i pasted in my simc

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with sockets in

woeful meteor
hollow river
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they're not

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?

clever kindle
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anyone elses sims having them use Lethal poisons over Sudden Fractures as necro?

woeful meteor
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Got that from your gear

drifting cloud
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its a raidbots thing, you have to this enabled

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clever kindle
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in your sim you have to check the replace gems/enchants box

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then select your shard setup

strange crown
clever kindle
short token
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damn i read the pins an i had that enabled initially i don't know how it got turned off again

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@woeful meteor so that's my best setup?

drowsy parcel
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i switched sudden fractures to lethal on bonesmith

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sf way better on 2t/3t/aoe though

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i run marileth on most bosses

woeful meteor
#

Probably let me check again

clever kindle
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we have aoe juicers I have one job

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which is to stab the boss

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We normally run a lot of boomkins and warlocks

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mages on deck

drowsy parcel
#

its like 40 dps ahead for me

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lethal vs fractures that is

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not really negligeble

clever kindle
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Yeah adds up

short token
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@drifting cloud so my replace existing box is checked, doesn't it automatically select my gems?

clever kindle
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Because you're telling it to replace them, it's weird, just select the gems you'll be using on the graphic

short token
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oh it still has my unholy selected

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ffs

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sorry again

clever kindle
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np if simming was always intuitive nobody would ask questions lol

wintry mica
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obe dead even with dashing on my sim

drifting cloud
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either way the 9.4 tamaran linked is your highest setup

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I got the same

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9410+-target error

clever kindle
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Even if the DPS is the same though, Dashing build gives you absolutely fucking nutty HPS

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in shields

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Your survivability goes wayyyyy up with Frost set

slow marsh
clever kindle
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We were prog'ing Soulrender and I was averaging over 2k HPS

slow marsh
short token
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so dashing sims lower

slow marsh
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No

prisma lark
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this has no active set bonus, or is it a tooltip error?

hollow river
drifting cloud
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he wouldnt sim 9.5 without a set

hollow river
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no frost in shoulders

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Dyz is in shoulders

slow marsh
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Wtf is this sim dude

drifting cloud
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its in the boots it doesnt matter ..

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you dont need to have a frost gem in shoulders lol

hollow river
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u have to have frost in shouler slot?

wintry mica
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nope

hollow river
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to activate bonus?

drifting cloud
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no.

limber lion
wintry mica
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just need to have shoulders equipped

limber lion
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No.

hollow river
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no?

limber lion
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Of course not

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Why would you

hollow river
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because thats the item that says set bonus idk

slow marsh
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Anyways dashing is only about +10 for you right now @short token so you're chillin

limber lion
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But it says you need to socket 3 gems

short token
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ok so if i bookmark that sim, and just hit "run sim again" will it keep the same sim settings? i'm really looking to upgrade chest / gloves right? and weapons

limber lion
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not "you need to socket a frost gem in this item"

short token
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bookmark tamaran's sim

limber lion
drifting cloud
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its just shadowgrasp totem+normal sylv chest with dyz in it thats your best

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just dont forget to enchant the chest

hollow river
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wasn't he simming 9.4

drifting cloud
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yes iceblades didnt enchant chest

hollow river
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mm

woeful meteor
hollow river
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^thats with his m+ chest and gloves

slow marsh
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Oh oops didn't think there's peeps running in the wild with no chest enchant mb I guess 😆

hollow river
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seems to be comparitive to the Bek and Dyz lol

short token
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well i never use that dom chest that's why lol

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i use the 252

woeful meteor
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He didn’t have a dom cheat in his bags

slow marsh
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Welp

short token
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yeah i just moved it in a fe wminutes ago

slow marsh
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Moral of the story

woeful meteor
#

In the string i pulled from one of his sims

slow marsh
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Upgrade your dps gems

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And wear them

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And stay doomblade for now

strange crown
slow marsh
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And enchant your Dom chest

short token
#

well wait, the sim they're saying is my highest doesnt' have me wearing the dom chest / gloves

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it has me wearing the 252's

woeful meteor
#

If you upgrade dps shards it will pull ahead with 5 dom gema

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Gems

short token
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so...right now it's worth it ot upgrade dyz and bek to r4?

slow marsh
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R3 for now probs

short token
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dyz is r4

slow marsh
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Then save for r5 frost

short token
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bek is r1 tho

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so upgrade bek to r3

slow marsh
#

Up that to r3 then

short token
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enchant chest

drifting cloud
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like I said dont up the gem if it will delay your r5 frost by a week

short token
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i have 83 ember

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because i was running all r4 unholy

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before all this

drifting cloud
#

yeah you cant get 67 in a week

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if youve done all this week already

slow marsh
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Well rip your embers

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I'd say swap out to uh for aoe fights then if you have both at r4. May as well use it

dusk void
#

Finally got heroic KT down in a pug….please god give me some damn shoulders

short token
#

so i'll be a week behind? or multiple weeks?

dusk void
#

There’s really no week behind, unless you’re full clearing mythic every week.

short token
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we're progging on painsmith

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so not full clearing no lol

drifting cloud
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theres no behind we had to swap sets

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im killing sylvn with r4 frost

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its just how it is

woeful meteor
#

The the only players that aren’t behind are the people that full cleared in echo week one

short token
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ok, but with 83 embers atm should i upgrade bek to r3 or just chill?

limber lion
#

chill

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do not touch your other shards

arctic hare
#

holy crap

short token
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ok

limber lion
#

until you're at r5 set

drifting cloud
#

you can upgrade it to r3 tho cev

arctic hare
#

I just timed a friggin 16

drifting cloud
#

2 resets only with hc = 102

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r3 costs 20

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so hes gonna have 63 left

short token
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so i can do it?

limber lion
#

fair, I wouldn't do it anyways

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because it's like 0.1% dps

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just to be safe than sorry

short token
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ok, .1 dps i'm gonna chill

limber lion
#

But yeh, Ryler is correct

arctic hare
#

Sooooo, how different is a 17 from a 15?

hollow river
arctic hare
#

Yeah

hollow river
#

this season no too bad but definitely different lol

woeful meteor
hollow river
#

need more dps and easier to die

arctic hare
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Right

hollow river
#

afaik, what i was told,

woeful meteor
#

This is the highest possible i could find and doesn’t use the blood gem anyway

hollow river
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you need 6.5k dps minimum for +16

arctic hare
#

I can do that easily

hollow river
#

like everyone needs that minimum

arctic hare
#

Ahh, okay

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what about 17's?

hollow river
#

prob around 7k+

arctic hare
#

Hmm, okay

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Guess I probably just won't do my 17

hollow river
#

give it a shot

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no harm in trying

arctic hare
#

hopefully I can get two more high lvl keys done, cause I might end up with 2 252 slots

dusk void
#

10% of 6.5k + 6.5k? So 7250ish

hollow river
#

what dungeon is it

arctic hare
#

DoS

hollow river
#

oof

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long dungeon too

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but if u can get blasters

arctic hare
#

Yeah

hollow river
#

ez clap

woeful meteor
#

Try your 17 the only thing you loose from depleting 17 is 45min of your time

arctic hare
#

True

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Wait

hollow river
#

lmao

arctic hare
#

45 minutes?

hollow river
#

true

#

yeah

arctic hare
#

jesus that is a long dungeon

woeful meteor
#

Dos os long

hollow river
#

DoS is long af

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longest dungeon

arctic hare
#

Also, even if I lose it won't I still get the 17 for the second piece of the vault?

hollow river
#

u will

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as long as no one leaves

arctic hare
#

Hmm

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ok

hollow river
#

and u finish it

woeful meteor
#

If you deplete but complete you still get loot

hollow river
#

but in my experience

arctic hare
#

Even if I deplete it I'll still have a 16 that I can do as well, so, HMMMMM

hollow river
#

if u deplete people just leave

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idk

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thats true too

woeful meteor
#

Just do it 17s aren’t that much harder

arctic hare
#

Also, if you fail the key, do you still get another 17 at the end of the week?

hollow river
#

no

arctic hare
#

you'd get a 16?

hollow river
#

u get the highest level u timed

arctic hare
#

Ahh, okay

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so I'll get a 16 then

drifting cloud
#

yeah

short token
#

so my durability should go up switching to frost right? healers less of a need to heal me?

hollow river
#

if that's what you've cleared, yes

arctic hare
#

It is lol

hollow river
#

how hard is SD this week guys?

arctic hare
#

pfft

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get a good group, it was stupid simple

hollow river
#

i have a 16 SD and no timed Tyran SD

arctic hare
#

thats what my 16 was

hollow river
#

i've done 16 SD Fort

#

ez

drifting cloud
#

the timer in sd is so forgiving its always like a middle difficulty dungeon

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regardless of affixes

hollow river
#

yeah especially since nerfs

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i might see if guildies are down

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and go as sub

subtle tundra
#

its just bosses are straight walls that you need good strats for

woeful meteor
subtle tundra
#

cant just go in blindly

#

(on high keys)

hollow river
#

yeah like last boss of DoS

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i've heard people lust right before going to Totem

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so everyone kills Totem

subtle tundra
#

yea

#

missed 23 dos by 24 secons 😦

hollow river
#

D:

arctic hare
#

Ouchhhhh

hollow river
#

i need to get back into keys more

#

i've just been doing a few a week

#

but i wanna push

subtle tundra
#

i really want an easy forti week next reset

arctic hare
#

I've been pushing like CRAZY

subtle tundra
#

so i can compare forti/tyra

hollow river
#

@subtle tundra the second pack of ToP

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what's the strat for them

#

that's a pug killer

zinc frost
#

I feel like this fortified week is going to be shit

subtle tundra
#

which pack

hollow river
#

2nd pack

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the 3

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before u go down

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they heal themselves

subtle tundra
#

i dont get it wat

hollow river
#

of ToP

subtle tundra
#

the first mobs at the entrance

#

??

hollow river
#

ya

subtle tundra
#

you skip

#

🙂

hollow river
#

no

#

not first pack

#

2nd

zinc frost
#

After 1st boss?

woeful meteor
#

The bloodhorn?

hollow river
#

cant skip

woeful meteor
#

Or the boss

subtle tundra
#

what mobs bruv

hollow river
#

the ones standing where u fight lasst boss

subtle tundra
#

the first boss?

cursive silo
#

the boss?? xd

hollow river
#

sure

zinc frost
#

Isn’t that the first pack?

prisma lark
#

there are 4 mobs before 1st boss before you go down, which are technically 2 packs, 3 being the first and 1 the second

zinc frost
#

I’m so confused

hollow river
#

thought that was a pack always

#

_>

woeful meteor
#

Wow

cursive silo
#

that's the first boss of the instance lmao

subtle tundra
#

they dont heal themselves

#

wat

hollow river
#

LOOOL

cursive silo
#

they do

hollow river
#

they do

cursive silo
#

if you don't dispell

#

one of them gives lifesteal

#

Sathel i think

subtle tundra
#

never seen that lmao

hollow river
#

so it's just dispells

cursive silo
#

just belf it

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or shaman

#

or idk

hollow river
#

the caster?

subtle tundra
#

yea

hollow river
#

kk so caster needs to die 1st