assassination

[gusty mirage]

You follow through always

It’s always okay to kiss a homie

[thorny pond]

No kissing, no eye contact, 30 minutes only. No touching

[gusty mirage]

Oh

[alpine garden]

It's gonna be a sad time when 9.2 comes out and we have to switch to whatever new set mechanic there is

But we have a couple of years still

[gusty mirage]

For 2 sylvie daggers? Still worth

[thorny pond]

As a sin XD

Think I'd have to sub again

[gusty mirage]

Still worth

Build rapport with GM AND 2 sylvanas daggers? I don’t see a loss here

[tacit wedge]

Idk why but droptimizer is obsessed with me using 2xEdge of Night with Sinful on both

[thorny pond]

I assume you are telling it to pick other enchants?

[tacit wedge]

Yes

I always pick sinful/celestial for both wep

[cedar star]

Imagine having Sylvanas daggers

[tacit wedge]

Because m+ would be celestial MH/Lightless OH

[thorny pond]

Imagine imagining

[hollow river]

Pretty sure I say screw it and open vault as outlaw today.

[tacit wedge]

Gotta accept i need that sweet 6% extra dps on st

[tacit wedge]

O no

[thorny pond]

Also, droptimizer looks at things in a vacuum so it assumes only 1 upgrade that's why

[hollow river]

Missed H sylv kill this week and I only pugged N sylv

9/10 H no sylv this week

Should do 10/10 with my new guild tonight tho

And 3/10M tmrw

[thorny pond]

Good luck. Nobamboozle

[hollow river]

Yep 2nd trial of the tier

Thx

[thorny pond]

me last tier

[hollow river]

They’re 4/10 atm

[thorny pond]

soulrender prog is fun

[hollow river]

Next week I do 4/10 and go to prog

[chilly viper]

I'm so sad seeing wow dieing

diying w/e guys

[thorny pond]

Never dying

[hollow river]

I don’t see it dying

[chilly viper]

do you see it dieing though

I tried final, and that game aint for me

[thorny pond]

Even when WoW is bad, it prints money. And Activision loves money even more than they love sexually harassing

[hollow river]

They will at least try to fix shit next tier/expansion

[faint harness]

its not dying

[hollow river]

Hopefully the new ceo will do good

[faint harness]

the game literally still has millions of players

[hollow river]

He’s a gamer

[spice spire]

Can’t miss holy moly

[faint harness]

games that have a few 100k players are still alive

i think its more likely that blizzard wants to win back the mmorpg top spot by investing more into the game rather than it dying

[chilly viper]

I know I know

[chilly viper]

that's what I trully hope tbh

[thorny pond]

You think we're competitive with logs and percentiles? WoW devs would love to have their name on the top mmo for another decade

[spice spire]

Tbf the “wow is dying thing” happens every other patch

[faint harness]

what is blizzard without the warcraft franchise

its their baby product

theres just no way it dies

[spice spire]

And yet 17 years later

[chilly viper]

that's true but this last 2-3 months it's been worst

[faint harness]

ppl grow up and move on tho, the game adjusts and fits other type of players. The game can definitely die for you and for many others, but the actual game should be living on

[ocean cave]

the game has been dying for 10 years somehow 🧐

[polar cape]

Wow is dead since mop btw, or so i heard <.>

[faint harness]

ive met quite a lot of people irl recently that say "oh i play wow, do you?" and i say i play wow. And then they reveal they are classic gamer boomers that play once every week. Lots of these people coming back to the game, 30+

[verbal mantle]

it's also getting quite old at some point

like we get it, you're not happy/you grew up

[narrow ravine]

you are aware that millennials could be up to 40 years old now right 😛

[hollow escarp]

internet boomers

[faint harness]

yes i mean boomers as in a state of mind

[thorny pond]

Yea gamer boomers

[chilly viper]

OG gamers

[narrow ravine]

haha

[faint harness]

like family and kids boomers

not actual boomer generation

[thorny pond]

I have a buddy who still brags about Microsoft Flight Simulator from 1999

he's a boomer

[narrow ravine]

both the MT in my raid are married with a kid together

[hollow escarp]

the ones that when they push to talk you hear 3 kids crying in the background

[spice spire]

I agree, it’s a very uh. Trite thing at this point - it’s not going well for you and you’re not enjoying that’s fine, but there are still plenty of people who do. Even when I left a decade ago I didn’t leave because “games dead xd” I left because I had other priorities at the time.

[narrow ravine]

we take raid breaks for 'brown outs' they have to go change a diaper

[thorny pond]

I resent that.

[faint harness]

yes boomers do play wow, i am one of those myself

[spice spire]

It seems to be a weird Cop out that people use

[spice spire]

Factual

[winged basin]

Boys, I think I finally broke the last straw

[faint harness]

50% crit?

[verbal mantle]

exactly

[hollow escarp]

applied to a decent guild?

[narrow ravine]

no, he needs a new package of straws, he broke his last one

[hollow escarp]

ooh

[spice spire]

Only 49% unluckily

[winged basin]

I did, nothing yet, but I got sat on mythic reclear and prog this week

[spice spire]

@winged basin new guild search?

[winged basin]

They will bring me for “a boss”

[hollow escarp]

so I was right

[faint harness]

why bench rogues in the current year

[gusty mirage]

Hey

[winged basin]

I preformed poorly on sylvanas so they are sitting me for mythic prog which I have yet to fuck up

[hollow escarp]

they don't fit 3 envenoms in shiv window

[thorny pond]

I literally had a kid so I could sit out bfa

[gusty mirage]

[faint harness]

solid

[burnt star]

Not pulling u in the nine and eye is cringe imo

[gusty mirage]

What if I get 2 one shiv window and rngesus blesses me and I get 4 in another. Does it offset?

[hollow escarp]

depends on the roster though

[cerulean nest]

tell em

[spice spire]

Kinda toxic response but respect the grustle chief

[hollow escarp]

and if it was due to performance, it's probably not a bad idea to improve on that

[winged basin]

2 dhs over 2 rogues?

Nah if it was sylv fine sit me

[spice spire]

Darkness gaming?

[gusty mirage]

Momentum go brrrrrr

[winged basin]

But I haven’t made a single mistake on mythic ontop of being higher then the other rogue that didn’t get sat

[thorny pond]

politics

[chilly viper]

How much time have you been in the guild

[hollow escarp]

[gusty mirage]

Answer my question pls

[winged basin]

About a year, been raiding with them since they started progging Mythic CN

[hollow escarp]

yeah, if you mfd

[gusty mirage]

ty mr kojack

[chilly viper]

@winged basin that's odd, prove your point with facts they might change their choice

[hollow escarp]

you guys haven't killed Sylvanas yet?

[winged basin]

I went into SoD with a better guild last night and parses 2 98s, would have been 2 more if tank mitigated on eye and chain person didn’t die on tarragrue

no

We are 9/10 h 3/10m

Gonna outgear sylvanas

[hollow escarp]

can't outgear it

[winged basin]

ik

[hollow escarp]

she goes immune and you have to dodge stuff

[burnt star]

Despite having a bad overall sylv.. how is your p3 damage?

Because. Mostly only p3 damage mather. (And i hardly doubt u aint reaching the required p2 hp)

[hollow escarp]

pretty sure people die to picking up puddles, not jumping with arrows, standing in poop or running off bridges, dps shouldn't be an issue at this point

[fallen arch]

Hehe he said poop

[hollow escarp]

forgot the name of veil

[ocean cave]

it’s called veil of darkness iirc

[fallen arch]

Yes

[burnt star]

Veil of poop

New name

[fallen arch]

Poop of darkness

[ocean cave]

that’s what 100 pulls week 1 will do folks

[narrow ravine]

id like the game to drop more gear that helps my team do mechanics

[winged basin]

My p3 damage is good, my damage in general isn’t bad on sylvanas, I was just eating darknesses which is fine, sit me for sylvanas prog, but not mythic reclear and prog that I’ve not messed up at all

and consistently did high damage

[hollow escarp]

I mean, sylvanas is still a prog boss until you kill it

[chilly viper]

sometimes you just suck on a certain boss

[lavish lichen]

Weren’t you the one that kept trying to convince them to do Slyv?

[chilly viper]

I was total crap on council, I asked to be benched on this one lol

[fallen arch]

Not getting hit by darkness > high damage tho at first

[narrow ravine]

if someone sat me from the raid, id just move on to a new game or guild, not about to sweat over a game

[thorny pond]

We looked at his logs yesterday. His GM was being obtuse and there were much worse performers. The GM was selling Toad out for things that weren't true

[fallen arch]

Oh lol

[chilly viper]

Meh that's a red flag haha

[fallen arch]

That’s fucked up

I’d be outta there immediately

[frigid kestrel]

Ye you should bounce

[burnt star]

Yep. Id get the f out of there

[frigid kestrel]

thats legit wack

[silk thunder]

Guild politics are a thing. Many guilds out there

[knotty cradle]

What is the best way to open as when using Deeper Stratagem , Master Assassin and no BL? That is, with a 120 energy pool and no insane energy regen. I read that Slice and Dice is the priority and that the opening should be Mut - SD - Mut - Garrote - Rupture, but doing so leads to be energy starved with no bleed before being able to apply Garrote

[burnt star]

He will never aknowledge you

[chilly viper]

@knotty cradle do a quicksim and watch the opener under the result

[spice spire]

When beach is calling people obtuse you know it’s real shit.
But 100% correct - there were far worse performers on the fight, though toad didn’t do the best, they were not the reason the fight didn’t go well solely

[knotty cradle]

This assumes that you get BL, but I'm talking about the case where you don't have it

[frigid kestrel]

I follow this opener, except i Pop Vendetta right after Garrote because i get Energy Regen issues and that puts a hault to that

[hollow escarp]

if you are blood elf, you could arcane torrent before garrote

[frigid kestrel]

You just Vendetta earlier then whats in the sequence and your solid

[chilly viper]

I'm so sad I ranked up my unholy set before the frost buff

[frigid kestrel]

Same

[chilly viper]

It's too late go back now haha

[thorny pond]

Eventually all gems will be max

just go with it

[hollow river]

That’s probably more so about you proving him wrong more than once yesterday so he has to flex his ego and power and sit you

[chilly viper]

Right

[thorny pond]

lean with it, rock with it

[chilly viper]

Just need a couple of embers to max it out, will switch to frost after that haha

[wide ridge]

same. Got all 3 unholy to rank 4 and now got my frost ones to rank 4 too

[winged basin]

Is what it is, guess I’ll just perish. Will spend my day in wowprogress

[chilly viper]

@winged basin warcraftlogs recruiting tool is neat

[knotty cradle]

hm, well the sequence from SimulationCraft seems to be to have to wait 2 sec before the Garrote and only use Vendetta after Rupture, odd

[zinc frost]

@winged basin I hope you find a better guild, we are all rooting for ya

[hollow river]

I always vendetta after rupt

[knotty cradle]

I do too, but it seems that being energy starved for 2 sec is better than using vendetta a bit earlier to avoid it

[winged basin]

❤️

[fallow glacier]

The energy starved is just sin without Vigor, that’s just how it be

[frigid kestrel]

Once you get going its not that bad at all.

Dashing helps out alot

[toxic quail]

@winged basin get out of that guild dude. that RL is lost in his own world.

Im tryna see you flourish

[strange python]

can someone link me a proper weakaura which shows which item set you have currently equipped, i constantly go in keys with doomblade eqipped

wanna have a reminder and none on wago.io work since legion

[alpine garden]

I just use different transmogs

[winged basin]

Well the guy in the message I just sent was the GM, still just silly. It was a collective decision to sit me apparently cause when I confronted the GM about why I was sat he said we had to make a officer to player discussion so now I’m in a random channel with officers so someone can explain it to me

[thorny pond]

World politics

[winged basin]

I’m prolly about to get gkicked anyhow so oh well lmao

[thorny pond]

You know what solves that quick? Pulling you into a voice chat and sorting it out

[toxic quail]

getting kicked would be a pleasure at this point haha

[dark token]

ye i played it in a couple keys it felt ok but obedience was much better

MA is definitely the play tho

[chilly viper]

wtf is this guild

[winged basin]

Turbo skulled

[toxic quail]

when they kick you tell them how thankful you are to be free

[amber mountain]

I'm necro, so i bought the skeleton wing transmog specifically for that

[thorny pond]

Send them here so they can see how they look like 🤡

[toxic quail]

hahahah feed em to the wolves

[wide ridge]

maintenance extended to 9pdt

[chilly viper]

https://tenor.com/view/pletter-gif-4360442

[thorny pond]

They told us yesterday

[toxic quail]

well now i have time to go get starbucks

[wide ridge]

I like to cope it's gonna be 1hour only

[burnt star]

Whats tour guild name? I find nothing under turbo skulled
Trying to see how bad of a decision making they did

[thorny pond]

That's kinda a witch hunt

and a bit frowned upon to dox

[spice spire]

Beach being the non-toxic voice of reason. Truly a wholesome gamer moment

[winged basin]

I mean this discussion is off topic anyhow that’s all my b, but def not openly putting everyone on blast go search

[thorny pond]

I see they tried to do Aotc with a small group and still turbo failed tho lol

[winged basin]

Yup

[spice spire]

Unlucky

[regal cape]

KekW

[winged basin]

Didn’t want me in there

[thorny pond]

so obviously your fault

[winged basin]

I went with another guild to raid last night and showed tf up so

[chilly viper]

Toadie holding em back just by being in the guild

[winged basin]

The better I make my parses look the easier it is to get ahead

[spice spire]

Trialing?

[winged basin]

I wish lmao

Just a for funsies

finding guilds is lowkey hard tho, why this difficult

[chilly viper]

bruh I'm telling you

warcraftlogs recruiting tool

I've found like 7-8+

[spice spire]

There’s also a discord

[toxic quail]

my guild climbing has come from the WoW Forums. Either the guild recruitment or realm specific pages.

[misty holly]

Find another guild with raid times you like and search up their rogues. if you find one that parses badly send the GM a message with link to your parse. Tell them kick him invite me pls

works every time.

[winged basin]

I got brought into a private nothing leaves discord room with all the officers and nobody in here is saying anything 💀

[toxic quail]

hahahahaha kinky

[winged basin]

Maybe I’m in the wrong

[chilly viper]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[winged basin]

I was really bad on my first time ever on sylvanas, so I guess I lost my ability to preform myrhic mechanics

[keen aurora]

If they're benching you and can't be bothered to say why they're benching you, you're not in the wrong

[winged basin]

Well the gm won’t tell me why I got benched, that’s why I’m in this private officer chat

[keen aurora]

Right

[toxic quail]

theyre scheming

[silk thunder]

It's a game. If they are sucking all the fun outta it then it is irrelevant if you are benched or not. Make a change to enjoy the hobby. Life has enough drama already.

[keen aurora]

Listen to that man^

[spice spire]

Agreed

[winged basin]

Honestly. This is some of the best advice I’ve been given so far. I don’t listen to it often enough.

[terse talon]

dafuq i just upgraded one of my frost shards to r5 (other two are r4) and simmed 10 lesser dps

[spice spire]

Is that within error margin for your sim?

[fallen arch]

Impossibru

Oh wait one of your shards

[chrome cedar]

Anyone willing to look at some logs for me

[fallen arch]

It can be one of the non dps ones?

[spice spire]

Always

[fallen arch]

Hit us

[chrome cedar]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rbM8KCqphL3kYwyR#fight=20&type=damage-done&source=48 here go, appreciate it

[rancid basin]

is there a difference in damage being in front of or behind the target in PVE?

[spice spire]

I have an immediate question, why are you running EP/DS?

[spice spire]

You don’t get parried behind the target

[fallen arch]

Any reason u play ep/ds?

Oh lol

[spice spire]

And secondly @chrome cedar problem number one I see is a large LARGE waste of energy. You’ve about 900 blanked which is a GIGA amount of energy.
You also missed a cast of flag - which is also a big deal. Remember, we sync unless we’re going to miss a flag cast
Finally 13 casts of shiv on a 7:30 minute fight seem low. I’d expect two more casts at least.

[winged basin]

I am not being brought to raid cause we have trials that are running.

[burnt star]

Nothing worse then getting parried during opener/flag window.. the feeling when u use a finisher and nothing happens

[winged basin]

does that happen???

[toxic quail]

YES

[burnt star]

Ya. If ur in front of the bosss

[toxic quail]

HARD YES

[burnt star]

In the opener man

[winged basin]

whaaaaa, that’s wild, glad that’s never happened to me

[toxic quail]

I tilt so hard

[burnt star]

Wasting a +50% crit mut

[misty holly]

how do you check wasted energy?

[toxic quail]

Its even worse when youre using the talents BS and DS

[burnt star]

I had my tank pull always the same way

And i shadowstep to avoid it

[fallen arch]

Lol ye if your first sbs gets deflected

[rancid basin]

thanks guys also is obedience simming higher than dashing scoundrel when running frost shards?

[fallen arch]

Ragequit

Not for everyone

[burnt star]

Not for me

[rancid basin]

my crit is just at 30%

[burnt star]

R4 crit at 41

But its close

[rancid basin]

yeah i hear my crit is too low

[winged basin]

I got like 34% crit r4

[lavish lichen]

You can’t afaik

[rancid basin]

r4?

[burnt star]

R4 frost set

[rancid basin]

ah

so scoundrel is probably preferred for enhanced crit chances

[frail solar]

@chrome cedar alot of only x2 envenoms in your shiv window

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter

[lavish lichen]

At least Outlaw faq says blizz doesn’t track energy overcapping so

[fallen arch]

Thats not a massive dps loss

[chrome cedar]

Hmm idk if I have an answer for that, thought I remember it simming higher for me at one point

[spice spire]

You can in logs - go to resources scroll down to energy

[lavish lichen]

Energy overcap?

That’s just energy up to the max

[spice spire]

Yeah I’ll link @chrome cedar ‘s

[chrome cedar]

Also, not saying it’s the sole reason, but my raid is often called to literally stop dps on eyes, one side is usually massively higher than the other so I just bounce around

[lavish lichen]

It doesn’t track how much you wasted by being capped

[fallen arch]

This doesn’t help for parsing

[fallen arch]

Your druid doesn’t seem to have that problem tho

[toxic quail]

@chrome cedar the first thing i notice is your uptime. its 95% but if you look at the DK he is at 99% and I think you have better utility on that fight.

[chrome cedar]

Hmmm ok

[toxic quail]

So def work on your uptime on boss/eyes

[chrome cedar]

For sure

[misty holly]

Maybe the druid is on the side with eyes that die too slow

[spice spire]

Stopping doesn’t help. Another tech I’m unsure if you use here. Do you step to the boss over using the chain at the end or do you not cheat the mechanic?

[fallen arch]

Definitely

[misty holly]

Cherry on side that has to hold dps

[chrome cedar]

Yeah I do

[spice spire]

That’s Unfort on holding dps

That will ruin it

[toxic quail]

Stopping dps needs to go away already.

[spice spire]

Maybe full sprint to other and greed or idk

[fallen arch]

That also explains the energy overcap

[spice spire]

Yeah

[burnt star]

When rl call for a dps stop. Try to make sure u keep ur alacrity at 5 stack. It can easely be done by just throwing dagger to get to 5 cp. And snd when timer is almost over

[spice spire]

I could go into more detail and see exactly when but cba

[burnt star]

Its not much but

[chrome cedar]

Yeah for sure

[burnt star]

Throwing dagger is basicly almost no damage

[fallen arch]

It does keep poison up

[burnt star]

Ya but

I mean

[fallen arch]

Thats fine

[burnt star]

If your poison phase the boss the call was too late. Cose a lot of class has dot up too

[fallen arch]

Its basically nothing

[lavish lichen]

Is there no passive energy regen for assa? Am I just dumb?

[burnt star]

And u want to be at your best for when eyes comes back

[winged basin]

One more thing lmao look at this 😂😂 Im not coming in cause we have trials and I am doing more dps then everyone with the same gear score so they want people to catch up to me

[spice spire]

Venomous wounds Is our passive energy regen haha

[spice spire]

Rough take

[burnt star]

Hmmm

That reasoning

U should leave tbh

[lavish lichen]

If you don’t hit anything you don’t regen energy?

[burnt star]

Being top dps doesnt mean being well geared

[peak badger]

yikes

[spice spire]

Very low energy regen

[peak badger]

get out of there fast

[winged basin]

3-4 trials coming in tonight, 242 equipped, so I gotta sit

[amber mountain]

That's... dumb. I'll always keep my top few DPS when trying to gear up the rest... someone needs to do the work

[spice spire]

So low it doesn’t even count

That’s actually not a bad point

[lavish lichen]

Ahh makes sense, that’s what the outlaw faq was saying that the passive energy regen isnt tracked

Ty for the clarification

[spice spire]

There we go phew

Saved by the outlaw boys

[toxic quail]

bro ive never read a worse take in my life. hahaha

i cant with them.

[late bolt]

I would be out real quick, what are they on about

[misty holly]

This channel reminding me of r/relationships. No matter the problem, the answer is always to leave them. lol

[winged basin]

I’m sorry lmao

I just need everyone else to see this goofy ass shit

[amber mountain]

Typically if you're going to outside random people for help... it's at that point

[harsh lantern]

just hit em with the cy@

[misty holly]

My husband comes home from work every day with smelly feet. I just spent hours cleaning the floors then he tromps around on them with his feet. I really love him but not sure what to do. Reddit: hire a divorce lawyer now.

[fallen arch]

Wait whaaaaat

That’s the ‘it’s not you, it’s me’ part of the breakup talk

[winged basin]

I told them the disparity between me and the others isn’t gear it’s player skill. I play my rogue better then the others ply their classes

[gusty mirage]

Man legit just said you stunt on their other DPS

WHAT A GAMER

[hollow talon]

Are servers up btw

[hasty grotto]

Am I crazy or is it ridiculously hard to get into keys as a rogue? I'm 209 and I can't even get into 4s

[gusty mirage]

it's like that for any dps tbh

[hollow talon]

Do your own key it's a lot easier

[peak badger]

^

[gusty mirage]

I got rejected from 4 15s yesterday and I'm 245ilvl and almost 2300 io

it just be that way sometimes

[hasty grotto]

Bruh

[silk thunder]

What needs to happen is the servers come back online so I can open my xmas present (vault) from the in-laws. Could be something nice but probably won't be.....

[hasty grotto]

Yeah I'll just start doing my own key

[arctic hare]

The heck?

thats just dumb lol

[hasty grotto]

I'm not even surprised tbf

[gusty mirage]

I'm not an ele sham

[hasty grotto]

I've actually not gotten into a single key, the only keys ive done was my own

[gusty mirage]

I could be a 1400 io ele sham and people would bring me

[arctic hare]

Ahh okay

[winged basin]

What is the difference between unholy r4 and frost r4 do we still have Cevs sims for that?

[arctic hare]

I tend to get in to quite a few keys, just gotta be incredibly persistent

[winged basin]

[hollow talon]

Depends on your gear and stuff but for me frost a good amount higher

[silk thunder]

Many ppl are looking for a specific comp they think will be successful regardless of facts. Just spam keys of the level you want until one pops. ppl will be ppl

[winged basin]

Only people who beat me are typically Venth boomies who get PI sometimes I skull my opener like a monkey

[hollow talon]

Honestly might just be better to find a new guild esp if you got some issues with the officers and stuff

You want to be a fun friendly environment

[pure moth]

You honestly need to quit that guild

[silk thunder]

Time to let that go my friend. Stay or go and be at peace with your decision.

[gleaming atlas]

just leave lmao

[hollow talon]

you can spend like almost 10 hours a week with your guild you want to be having some fun

[winged basin]

[gusty mirage]

ngl though its a tough decision with 20 spots and more than 20 people, you want people to get their vault but it's odd they're gimping one their highest dps

[hollow talon]

bro he really told you you can get really good mythic gear from m+

its time to leave

[winged basin]

[peak badger]

extended till 11pdt

fucking blizz

[gleaming atlas]

just /gquit

[keen aurora]

I've noticed this a lot more recently - guilds making decisions on whats best for everyone without taking any input from the people they're making decisions for

[hollow talon]

no way

why

[gusty mirage]

maybe they'll figure out how to make the servers not lag like a mfer

[hollow talon]

theres not even new content

this week

other than conduit hotfix

which should have been in the game 9 months ago

[peak badger]

always something

[hollow talon]

useless blizzard

[iron orchid]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/guild/rankings/392594/latest#difficulty=4
I feel you kinda

[gusty mirage]

[winged basin]

Dude you are a monster

[harsh lantern]

Sounds like when people decline jpc from their 15s lol

[winged basin]

I felt happy about getting some 98s last night

[gusty mirage]

I feel like most of that is they feel added pressure when peeps with high io show up

lol

[harsh lantern]

Hahah could be

[gusty mirage]

this guy begged me not to leave his 15 nw after he got me killed 3 times with the cleave from those big dudes

I was like man I'm just tryin to finish my vault

lmao

[harsh lantern]

XD

[iron orchid]

i got most of those because I had early shards loot

It's getting harder because our kill timers aren't decreasing

[winged basin]

Ahhh gotcha gotcha, I just hit 2 back to back 98s yesterday and creamed

[gusty mirage]

[winged basin]

on heroic :// but still

[manic pebble]

is the server up?

[gusty mirage]

not yet

extended maintenance

[manic pebble]

aw

[grim tangle]

I feel like they extend maintenance every week

[manic pebble]

can't wait to get my 252 phial

[gusty mirage]

hey man it counts just the same

high 90s/99s/100s in heroic are still big pp gaming

🙂

[winged basin]

Last week we were live right on time

[arctic hare]

i'm sorry, till 11 PDT?

Thats like 1:00

[winged basin]

and yeah I was pogging out, if parsing was an Olympic sport I’d aspire to be an athletes

[sterile ocean]

Which seems more stronger in peoples opinions Obedeonce or Doomblade?

[hollow talon]

heroic parses are kinda wack if youre guild is just over geared and your kill times are really short

not even doing a ton of dam but high parses cause the bosses just melt

[winged basin]

Oh dang

[harsh lantern]

Just grief the homies

[winged basin]

Yeah no, I usually parse around a 90 in normal raid

The group I was with the other night melted shit

I finally fixed my painsmith parse tho, no more 52 hello 98

Just gotta fix KT and I won’t have any blue parses

[limber lion]

What a show off!

[winged basin]

Oh no

[limber lion]

Damn so many gamers in the chat today

[winged basin]

Don’t post yours Cev, you make me feel like a grey parser

[limber lion]

love to see it

nah I won't

[harsh lantern]

^

LOL

[winged basin]

I have your page bookmarked so when I feel sad I can just stare

[harsh lantern]

cev too good

[toxic quail]

cev too good indeed

[solid venture]

[chilly viper]

are servers up my dudes

[solid venture]

Built differently

[winged basin]

I used to meme our other rogue cause he was necro for a bit, and complained about Venth being so good and I was like bro, Cev r1 parses with necro, no excuses

[cerulean nest]

maintenance extended two more hours

lets gooo

[gusty mirage]

what seems stronger? Whatever sims higher my guy

[harsh lantern]

gl today on phials boys

[solid venture]

2 more hours of playing ff xiv I guess

[gusty mirage]

I want a heroic sylvie dagger

[solid venture]

[winged basin]

I’d rather a weapon then phial

[harsh lantern]

same

But phial Sim higher

[sterile ocean]

@gusty mirage was gonna say on warcraft logs theres more doomblade then obedince

[chilly viper]

@cerulean nest think that's for TBC

[silk thunder]

Give me high io folks all day. Less pressure as I know they stand a good chance of doing their jobs.

[harsh lantern]

that’s 246 phial too

Not even 252

[winged basin]

I got 242 phial so I need a big boyo weapon still have a 226

[harsh lantern]

I got 252 main 246 oh

[winged basin]

236 and 226 weapons

[harsh lantern]

no sylv dag

[silk thunder]

Normal sylv dagger OH is 2.5ish % of my dmg

[harsh lantern]

I’d imagine it sims the proc dmg correct?

[wide ridge]

servers will be up 11am pdt for sure, not more extends

[cerulean nest]

says so on the homepage of retail..?

[toxic quail]

i ran a 15 PF yesterday with guild and finally got a phial AND the crit dagger. so im already happy. but gimme sylvanas dagger to call it a good week.

[rancid basin]

hey not seeing it but is Nadiya preferred over Theotar?

theotar 3x potency sims lower for me but im not trusting raidbots

[winged basin]

That would depend on which tea buff you got too huh

[toxic quail]

I think it comes down to what you like better if you dont want to trust raidbots. I feel slower playing Theo so i stay Nadja

[winged basin]

^^^

that too, I feel like for frost build fatal flaw is just big

[rancid basin]

i prefer nadja for sure and sims higher with her

[toxic quail]

the tea is sick when i get crit. but if i dont i go back nadja

[rancid basin]

yeah thats a good point

[wide ridge]

cant wait for 252 lashing after servers come up

[winged basin]

I’m still at 200 lashing

[toxic quail]

its spicy mate

TOAD OH NO

UPGRADE THAT SHIT

[harsh lantern]

I got 213 hehe

[winged basin]

I cannnnnnnt. I still haven’t found a SOULTWINING crescent, and I’m not even r5 yet

I’m actually horrible lmao

[wide ridge]

just do korthia 4Head

[toxic quail]

man your rng is so sad. D:

[harsh lantern]

In addition to this change, we’re increasing the drop rate of Death-Bound Shard when completing Adamant Vaults in Torghast, Tower of the Damned.

Gg bro!

We good

[wide ridge]

ngl i got death bound shard once

[toxic quail]

like i have 4 saved on my feral and 30k research. so im gonna get him caught up fast

yeah ive done Adament like 8 times and only seen 1 upgrade.

but now ill be more likely to run it with the change.

[harsh lantern]

same here

[toxic quail]

more incentive.

[harsh lantern]

213 lashing is a snooze

do I just do mythic sire

LOL

[toxic quail]

I get rng is rng but damn dude, its so discouraging sometimes when youre a grinder

[wide ridge]

I just do the 2 wings, aim for 5 stars and do adamant, i don't keep repeating them, torghast is a slog as is

[silver fog]

What exactly is bugged about mnemonic equipment in general and regarding assa spec? Certain skills not proccing it or what?

[dark token]

cant you get unlimited 226 upgrade conduits at this point of the patch

[polar cape]

Kinda have to grind those

[harsh lantern]

Prolly I don’t play XD

korthia who

cba for that stuff honestly

and before the new change I’ll I get for upgrade are conduits on a diff spec

Cringe game

got 10 226 deeper daggers if you need

[golden kraken]

If you shadowstep balls on painsmith does it put you behind them and you also dont get squished?

[manic pebble]

you die

[golden kraken]

Ok wont try that on prog tonight then

[wide ridge]

just door of shadows

[cerulean nest]

nah try it

[manic pebble]

just shadowstep on mages

or don't shadowstep at all, just kill the ball

[plain thistle]

vanish > shadowstrike is my favorite way to die

did once, was hitting the ball really close but ended walking backwards a little too much before vanishing

[toxic quail]

I second Kanye, give it a try

gotta be a team player on them balls bro

[limber lion]

Might wanna get that checked, I swapped realms yesterday so probably outdated :P

[winged basin]

glad you are doing big pumper things ❤️

[dark token]

scoundrel + deeper strategem/MA + theotar dungeonslice hype https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hRcGZfvZP9RM1L32fSGaZn

[winged basin]

Imagine having all those r1 heroic parses, what’s it like being the best?

[limber lion]

Yuup. Joined a new guild that private logs everything as well. Won't be seeing my mythic logs in a while :P

[limber lion]

I have r1 on 8/10 bosses on mythic as well :(

[toxic quail]

god tier

[winged basin]

boutta get you in a coaching session wtf you monster

[balmy condor]

[limber lion]

Sylv still has some massive upgrades I could get, I'm sad that we'll be only clearing 9/10m today :'(

[balmy condor]

some random new guild huh

[limber lion]

yeh just some rando

[gusty mirage]

yikes

[limber lion]

gonna play bs/ds dashing today on most bosses, let's see how much I troll on my first clear with the guild

[gusty mirage]

how the mighty have fallen

[winged basin]

Just a random guild

[limber lion]

I've played ep/vig/doomblade on like every boss

since the beginning of the tier

[gusty mirage]

Cev about to 101 parse

[fallen arch]

You swapped again?

Oh wait

Method scooped you up

Nice

[limber lion]

Yupyup.

[fallen arch]

Method rank 1 next tier now, I know it

[limber lion]

Who says I'll be seeing any play next tier?

[winged basin]

No way

Fr?

Method my fav guild

Now I get to watch CEV TOO?

[kind talon]

Just have an alt that ur good at too

Ez clap

and then pray that rogue isn’t dogshit

[winged basin]

Nah we only get this one tier of being good

[limber lion]

I do have an alt

It's called "Ceveriontwo"

it's a rogue

:)

[fallen arch]

Also rogue

Right

[winged basin]

LOL

[kind talon]

Didn’t you need a rogue alt and a non rogue alt

Like what is your non rogue alt gonna be

[limber lion]

Yeh, probs gonna gear up my warrior.

[arctic hare]

@thorny pond You were so close, bursting and volcanic

[kind talon]

Boomkin

[kind talon]

Live???

[arctic hare]

no

wowhead said so lol

Though

it might be, one sec, I'll check

[chilly viper]

@limber lion grats man

[toxic quail]

dude gratz Ceverion

[arctic hare]

They are not up no

[balmy condor]

datamined

[chilly viper]

oh okay I understand why you guys said checking ceverion's log was depressing

[limber lion]

hey you aint gotta expose me like that

[hollow escarp]

last patch we also got to check his mythic logs

[thorny pond]

That could be anyone

Could be Erra

[lavish lichen]

Isn’t that heroic? Much less impressive than the mythic ones 😛

[chilly viper]

that was indeed my logs

ahaha

[spice spire]

99 on sylv, washed

[halcyon zealot]

is that a 99?? pathetic

[limber lion]

:(

[spice spire]

Unlucky

[winged basin]

I can’t wait to do 2 keys to get KSM and then not do anything the rest of the week

Those affixes are 🤢

[spice spire]

Imagine needing KSM still

[winged basin]

TRUE

[spice spire]

Affixes really aren’t that bad tbh

[winged basin]

POINT AND LAUGH

[spice spire]

Bursting sucks but volcanic high key free af

[thorny pond]

What did I guess?

[winged basin]

Trueeeee

But I need sanguine cause I don’t have a tyran time for sanguine

and that’s why I don’t want to exist this week

[arctic hare]

Back after we did the 15 you were guessing which affixes they were

[spice spire]

My highest is a 12 on sanguine

But high key it’s so free dude

Timer is so lax

[harsh lantern]

Isn’t SD free?

[halcyon zealot]

ya SD is free as fck

[harsh lantern]

Yeah

Timer so long

[thorny pond]

Yea what did I say

[arctic hare]

You said something like volcanic and another one

[halcyon zealot]

timed a 19 SD last week with like 12 deaths or smth rediculous

[spice spire]

On the 12 we timed week one we had 23 deaths and almost two chested

[arctic hare]

I can't remember the other one

[winged basin]

Every group I run with loses to the 2nd boss

and we just perish

[fallen arch]

Nobody here doubted the gamer he is tho

[balmy condor]

he's only in method

thats like

[fallen arch]

That 99 on Sylvanas keeps him awake at night tho

[balmy condor]

not even top 3

cringe

[chilly viper]

casual

[spice spire]

Imagine only being in a top 5 guild

[cerulean nest]

I think I beat Cev on my inerva parse last tier one time, with PIs

taking it to my grave

[fallen arch]

Must have been with 10 priests on your team

[delicate bone]

the affixes this week are so nice honestly

[fallen arch]

One of the best tyrannical push weeks ever

Not gonna get much better than this

[delicate bone]

yea 100%

[winged basin]

Oh

Well in that case

💤

jkjk

[thorny pond]

bursting volcanic is basically healer week and even then we have a great tool to deal with burst

[delicate bone]

if the healer is a disc too, MD is huge

dont even have to think about bursting

[fallen arch]

Bursting is awkward with triple melee and a hpa tho ngl

[thorny pond]

cloak it and forget it

[spice spire]

Hella free

[fallen arch]

Oh wait

[spice spire]

Volcanic the weird one there

And you just tell the hpal to gtfo

[fallen arch]

I was thinking about quaking

[thorny pond]

tell the hpal to leave. More like tell the carry melee to go boomkin amirite

[spice spire]

I think about myself too

[spice spire]

You just don’t miss today damn

[arctic hare]

Lol

[thorny pond]

I'm the Michael Scott of sin channel

[fallen arch]

He’s my wft wdym

[spice spire]

Well. I spoke too soon chief

[thorny pond]

Yea Hpal Rogue WFT and boomkin carry

[kind talon]

Hello

[thorny pond]

Hello decaf

[arctic hare]

Less depresso more expresso

[cerulean nest]

imagine not getting the sylv dagger in vault today

[frigid kestrel]

Couldn’t be me

….. until it is in fact me

[misty holly]

Nothing but disappointment from the vault so far this patch... domination slots make it so unreliable.

[frigid kestrel]

If the vault give me a 252 Phial and a Heroic Sylv Dagger today I will legit think that Nlizz has a personal vendetta against me

[arctic hare]

Lol

[frigid kestrel]

Like I know what imma choose out of the two, but it’s like spitting in my face.

[arctic hare]

Indeed

[pure osprey]

just be glad u get something.

[thorny pond]

This server maintenance getting extended every week is really messing with my work schedule

[hollow river]

How lol

[thorny pond]

I schedule my lunch around end of maint

[high berry]

You actually have to work on Tuesdays?

[kind talon]

[frigid kestrel]

Yea I’ll be happy getting a key and and a Token

[sharp star]

Just swapped venth. Is opener mut,slice,mut,garrotte,flag,vendetta,rupture?

[hollow river]

You have a job?

[hollow river]

Flag,rupt,vendetta

[fallen arch]

Swap rup and vendetta

[sharp star]

Ty

[chilly viper]

I see jpc sometimes do mut garr mut flag rup

[hollow river]

Might need more cp

[fallen arch]

He’s necro

[chilly viper]

Used to at least

[fallen arch]

He doesn’t need snd because of his muscle mass?

[hollow river]

[chilly viper]

I just skipped this part 😛

mut slice mut garr mut flag rup vend

[balmy condor]

that's the opener yes

[fallen arch]

Ye that’s with deeper I think

[balmy condor]

wat

[fallen arch]

Or really unlucky with 2nd mut?

[balmy condor]

yeh

you just mut again if you're not at finish level

because you always finish level before flag

[hollow river]

Opening on sylv sucks cuz of all the lag on pull

[fallen arch]

It was worse with sire imo

That wonky teleport that he did

[hollow river]

Sometimes second mut is so delayed it doesn’t get counted in MA window

True

[balmy condor]

just stay in stealth until the lag is over

[hollow river]

I was necro for sire tho

[balmy condor]

it's like 2 seconds

[hollow river]

But but

[fallen arch]

2 seconds

[hollow river]

Then my dps is scuffed

[balmy condor]

she's immune cause of the lag for 1.5 of the 2

you'll live

[wide ridge]

why does she lag anyway

[hollow river]

Who knows

[balmy condor]

why does anything lag

[hollow river]

Lots of people raiding across all servers

[balmy condor]

poorly coded

bugged

things happen idk

[hollow river]

She didn’t lag as much for me first week or two

At all

[wide ridge]

poorly coded, nah blizz wouldn't do such a thing

[plain thistle]

for me she always lagged, since week 1

[hollow river]

Weird

[fallen arch]

Doesn’t seem that bad for me?

[plain thistle]

its unplayable for 1-2 seconds, I just stay in stealth

not completely unplayable but I did a couple double/triple mutilate

before the first snd

[hollow river]

[fallen arch]

Just press it once?

[thorny pond]

realms finally went offline

[arctic hare]

Its beginning

[fallen arch]

Or does everybody play like Jpc?

[chilly viper]

junior devs worked on sylv

[kind talon]

Yes

[plain thistle]

yes

[fallen arch]

1111111122222222211111111133333333

[plain thistle]

always

[stuck thistle]

Why does every guide show mutilate prio over ambush prio during subterfuge? They cost the same energy, gives same amount of combo points. But ambush deals more damage. What am i missing?

[thorny pond]

!mut

[prisma monolith]

Ambush is currently only used from blindside/sepsis proc, not from stealth.
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3).
Some other factors to consider are increased poison applications, blindside, and doomblade. This is true for all talent combinations and legendaries.

[thorny pond]

If you're playing subt, probably hit garrote on multiple targets, otherwise follow prio

[stuck thistle]

ye obviously. But the bot made me kinda see the point. Cheers.

[chilly viper]

you press mut for it banger sound effect

[stuck thistle]

haha right 😉

Still like vigor and sub more than master and stratagem. Guess its a haste question.

[manic pebble]

server is up

[dark token]

having sound effects on

after the 50th grunt and moan i turned everything except dialogue off

[chilly viper]

League of legend's champion select is up there too

[wide ridge]

thank you sir

may all your vaults have great upgrades my friends

[manic pebble]

time to claim my 252 phial

[wide ridge]

same

[winged basin]

Good luck yoooooo!! big loots inc

[plain thistle]

give me ro kalo (?) head

[manic pebble]

no phial

😠

[upper trout]

edge of night woooooo!

[plain thistle]

yes boys

I was using a 226 one

[dark token]

nice fatescribe helm damn

good sub ring i guess

[plain thistle]

called it 1 min ago haha

[arctic hare]

My loot was kinda crap

[dark token]

252 ocular gland actually beats 239 guardian trinket i guess

but i can loot that any week

[limber lion]

god dayum

[plain thistle]

that was my second best upgrade (sylv mythic dagger is better) https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xjaNqJVqgCpibQhcdgtjiQ

really nice

[limber lion]

I won't be getting a vault this week

[limber lion]

[plain thistle]

good ring

[arctic hare]

Its crit vers though

[dark token]

crit vers is good man

as long as it's heavy crit

[arctic hare]

Thought it was crit haste, oh, right, yeah, and I can use it for sub

but THATS a dagger

[spice spire]

Yes man

[plain thistle]

more crit please

[spice spire]

Juiced gamer

The fuck

[manic pebble]

only +66 dps 😦

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nGQLP5i7jVDnX9VarjSjSY

[wide ridge]

uber trash loot

[still elm]

finally got my frost set 😄

[manic pebble]

[arctic hare]

guys

[peak bobcat]

Sad

[deft obsidian]

Wtb 252 wep tbh 😮

[arctic hare]

I'm trying to sim my vault

[peak bobcat]

That’s a fat dagger and trinket lol

[arctic hare]

but my sim is being dumb

[dark token]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5CLT8yPakkQdD9bw2f7Sbi im surprised 252 eye of the jailer trinket is this good

[fallen arch]

Replace trinkets with gland and howler

[arctic hare]

nvm, It was me bein dumb

[fallen arch]

+++ crit

[plain thistle]

[toxic quail]

ill take it

[plain thistle]

just need to get a 252 gland and i will

[fallen arch]

That would be like 55%

[arctic hare]

it isn't letting me sim my great vault

like, its saying something about not being able to sim with the items selected

[plain thistle]

just out of curiosity i simmed stats weight, haste is now a little bit better https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hd2DHCDNEKHXnKMQNBPLjQ , I wonder why

[fallen arch]

All you casuals with 4 rewards from dungeons. Here I am looting 3x cloaks at 252 tomorrow in that row

[still elm]

i didnt have to time to play that much this week 😦

[fallen arch]

Was joking

I’ll get some good rng some day I guess

[alpine latch]

NA servers are up (if it hasn't been said... I haven't caught up)

[arctic hare]

its up

[alpine latch]

Guess you all knew 🙂

[arctic hare]

yup

finally, its letting me sim myself properly

[alpine latch]

RIP

[sterile ocean]

not the best vault for me

[dark token]

you need the nine boots for more crit

[plain thistle]

yup, but it never drops

[dark token]

really surprised this ring loses for sub to a crit/haste ring

https://i.imgur.com/lZA1ImR.png

[arctic hare]

Wow

[upbeat needle]

guys help

what do I pick

[limber lion]

Actually filthy af

[harsh lantern]

Phial or sim

[upbeat needle]

guys pls help

[limber lion]

Are you trolling or serious?

[upbeat needle]

I'm trolling

[limber lion]

Figured as much

[upbeat needle]

BRO I JUST GOT MY FUCKING PHIAL LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[harsh lantern]

gg

[limber lion]

eyyy

[upbeat needle]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-saiyan-goku-gif-5009523

[arctic hare]

Epic

Lol

[dark token]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ttzLJ6m6GY4tDku9T9Sdyu eyeball gamin

[arctic hare]

i'm simming myself now, I'm pretty sure the ring will be better, but that dagger is a 6 ilvl gain

[dark token]

40% crit gang

[fallen arch]

It’s just a phial no biggy

[bleak sky]

my vault had an INSANE 3x token of Merit

[fallen arch]

Got like 14 of those

[arctic hare]

GUYS

[limber lion]

Ya'll are insane.

[arctic hare]

The weekly gives you a heroic piece, holay crap

[fallen arch]

What’s the weekly

[bleak sky]

heroic sylv dagger from weekly?

[arctic hare]

imagineeeeeee

I swear to god if I get that, i'll die

[viscid spear]

4 Mythic dungeons
Hurry and get your crap piece.

[arctic hare]

OH WOW

Yeah, apparently

[dark token]

i just want kt shoulders these are making me really sad

https://i.imgur.com/6i6at9I.png

[arctic hare]

The dagger I got is going to be better than the 252 ring

ruh roh

[dark token]

@still canopy rogues ill trade heroic sylv dagger for heroic KT shoulders

hmu

[fallen arch]

EU, reset tomorrow

[viscid spear]

Oh really, where do you live?

[arctic hare]

Idk what to do

sim says the dagger is better, but this is a 252 ring with heavy crit vers on it

Which could be exceptionally useful later on

[limber lion]

I have that as well with a socket.

[still elm]

frost bonus with dashing is simming +1000 😄 im going to try and get the normal shoulders then take the dagger

[limber lion]

And it loses to my 246 Arachnid ring without a socket.

kek.

[fallen arch]

🇳🇱

[alpine latch]

blah, another useless GV 😦

[viscid spear]

You're Dutch?

[fallen arch]

Palmer about to delete characters

[alpine latch]

Naw

I should just start gearing my other rogues

And see who gets the dom sockets first

lol

[arctic hare]

Lol

[alpine latch]

I already have 3 level 60 rogues

Fug it

[arctic hare]

What do you guys recommend?

[fallen arch]

Ye so what’s the point in that? I saw Gingi level an extra druid for some reason?

[hollow river]

Diff cov

[viscid spear]

I live in South Jersey just across from Philly, it's like the WoW General Discussion forum section down here

[bleak sky]

good god, disgusting gear

[viscid spear]

Wish I was home so I can see my GV

[bleak sky]

wait but

are you running your 10 weekly dungeons on a single char yet?

[plain thistle]

[kind talon]

splits

[fallen arch]

That’s the sole reason?

[kind talon]

for w1st?

ye pretty much

[bleak sky]

and he's a degen gamer

[arctic hare]

Ahahahah

[kind talon]

but otherwise ppl like doing like

2 covenants

[arctic hare]

Got a necrotic wake 15

[kind talon]

and stuff

[loud light]

also if you get a system like dom shards

you just dump the char that got bad luck

and play the good luck one

[kind talon]

^^^ yep

splits are OP

[loud light]

degenerate, yes for sure

[cerulean nest]

ugh i'll be 20 embers short this week toward getting full r4 frost

[grand ridge]

Just got a 252 phial from my chest 😤

[spice spire]

Huge

[brazen zodiac]

silly question but i wanna press iqd instantly right?

[alpine latch]

Typically, no. 4-6 a week. I'm not farming 10 dungeons just for an extra chance at the slot machine.

[bleak sky]

yet.....you're running other chars...?

[alpine latch]

Nope. I leveled the other rogues in 9.0

Haven't logged into either since 9.1 hit

[kind talon]

I mean

U could just do

8 dungeons on 2 characters

Is 4 loot choices

Quick maths

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I'm not actually gearing the other rogues... lol

[kind talon]

Oof

[alpine latch]

I'd have to pug it all for Dom sockets/shards

Eff that

I'm missing 2 Dom sockets as it is

[arctic hare]

That moment when a 228 ilvl gets declined for the four mythic weeklies, like, what the heck

[wide ridge]

just create your own group

[fallen arch]

Wdym

[wide ridge]

[fallen arch]

There’s applying 20 dps a minute of which 18 are higher ilvl than you

[winged basin]

I pug all of my keys as long as it’s a 15 you get like 50 dps apps instantly

[burnt star]

M0 give like 213

228 is kinda low

🤣

Lot of 240 player to chose from

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I posted a +15 instead of a +14 last week. In 3 minutes, I got about 130 people who apped to the +15. I took it down and posted it as a 14 and after 15 minutes only 1 person had even applied

[burnt star]

Ya. Only people who do 14 are people looking for loot

[still elm]

is shadowgrasp totem a pain to use or do we just drop it on the floor lmao

[burnt star]

As oposse to all the +15 for vault

[fallen arch]

Just use on cd

[still elm]

ok ty

[thorny rampart]

sub or assa loot spec for sylvanas daggers?

[alpine latch]

Either work

Just don't be Outlaw

[thorny rampart]

but what if i'm superstitious

[alpine latch]

We have the exact same loot pool

So same percentages either way

[burnt star]

Then go sub

Sub are sneaky shadow ninja

[thorny rampart]

i lost 😦

not sure if i can post images here

[cerulean nest]

only got one piece that isnt a dom or leggo slot lol, and its a sidegrade

with a socket at least

ugh

[proven moth]

I have 252 mist dagger and mythic dom socket chest. Pretty unsure due sims are weird xd

[strange python]

hello my assa friends, i just swapped back to necro what soulbind do you use for raid? bonesmith?

[narrow ravine]

vault of disappointment, every item in my vault is a dps downgrade

even something 22 ilevels over what I have on (230 neck) was a 60dps downgrade due to stats

[wide ridge]

sounds like the tuesday special

[wintry mica]

classic dump valor into my phial last week and then get one out of box today

[strange python]

happens to me too

[wintry mica]

at least its worth equipping

better than most of my vaults

basically on the korthite vault train this patch so far