#assassination
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You okay?

cheer up buddy
No guild and none of my friends play wow
realm?
Illidan
ur coming with me
I havent looked for a guild tho
Agreonr
I cant
😱
oof
Maybe agreon proudmoore
I think my best logs are inerva and sire
ya they r
And i didnt self log so theres other pulls ive done that might have been better or worse
Sadge
I also pugged m inerva to like 1%
And hungering to like 20ish but the group spent like an hour doing some shit strat
Man, i can't imagian doing bosses like Council with pugs :S
My guild isn’t a mythic guild at all
And my huntsman and shriek groups were a very ass but consistent guild group
They were bad damage but their coordination and mechanics werent bad
On huntsman? Kudos to them
As long as your consistent you'll do progress. This tier was the first for our guild, we got CE pre-nerfed Sire. I think thats pretty good tbh, atleast for a first tier.
God my guild, even after getting aotc still sucked at huntsman
They didnt even try past huntsman
Mostly cause of pugs
Pugs are NOT good for huntsman in the slightest
tbf
my guild prog was also
not good in the slightest so
rly just depends on the competency of the pugs ig
My inerva group for m that failed i was top 3 damage every pull except the last few
I got 4 beams in one of those last few
Is that bad?
LOL
nice
Im not tryna brag though im not an insane juicer like some of you guys here
O
and then
2 weeks into tbc guild i raided with
got it
which is awesome
super proufd
Im actually really new to wow so i dont do classic
this was
I started in prepatch
Just bring a milion dk's 😄 then the fight is super easy!
You can just immune every single add and you can just do single target all the time 😄
ilvl parses of a greek god
Im gonna try sub in heroic week
i could never get used to it but
tbf i only hit dummies for like 1 hr
thats my
entire history with sub
kekw
I think i like learning from trying shit
I learned outlaw rotation imperfectly in heroic dungeons while i grinded my necro renowny
Maintaining buffs etc
Outlaw is not a tough spec, but
To perform it its maximum capability you need to "soak" the dps rotation into your muscle memory, especially in dungeons where we expect you to deal with a lot of mobs ability throught CCs
And the outlaw rotation, while not being fundamentally "hard" mechanically, still have a lot of button to press in the correct situation.
So yeah, basically you just need to play the spec a lot.
fair enough
Sub aoe is really boring though
Tornado
Sadly
I think i saw that you do dance and sod in the first global of tornado
Idk the exact thing
Yeah
a bit
ye
I like playing sub in dung
sin feels energy starved
maybe if backstab wasnt such a shit button to press
Cause it is energy starved
Sub is also awesome when clearing through old content. Just ninja popping to each target and one shotting them.
Play it right, minimal downtime
Imma have to try that out, do they have two shadowsteps or somethin?
Yeah
yep
Am i wrong in thinking that outlaw mobility is usually more useful in pve
Since it goes wherever you want it
Very true
And some abilities hurt you as you travel through them, or still apply debuffs or hit you
Blinks are by far the best mobility
hello sire denathrius
Uunat was the big one imo
Yeah i wasnt thinking about things hurting when you go throuh them
Througj
Througj
Througj
Through
Where rogue would take zero damage from beams all fight
The only downside of shadowstep is that you rely on someone else to get there first which wastes some of your time then
I'd say it's kinda 50/50
There are some places where hook is infinitely more useful than Shadowstep
One thing i was thinking of is xav in m+

xavela?
Xav the unfallen
o
Big slowy banner
Like shadowstep is still good
But i think hook is way better
Sometimes your teammates might barely get out
Grappling hook is extremely valuable in situation where you need to soak something far away
from example
It has a big range as well
Especially with the conduit
true

I’m thinking of making a mouseover macro, just to use in the case that a bossfight like xymox happens again
Which, afaik, it will happen with the first boss of next tier
Shadowstep p3 sire 
venthyr master race
#gothbois
I believe you only hold flag to line up with vendetta if it's the last time you use both
aka boss dying
i could be wrong tho
I think its just on cd
You line it up unless you miss a cast
Ie. Six minute fight you’d press flag on cooldown
But with obedience every other flag lines up with vendetta right?
does obedience reduce flag cd?
yeah in a pure 5mn patchwerk scenario. Below 4mn30 fights you sync anyway tho.
But in practice, I almost always sync theim
Because you can get 4 casts instead of 3, and yeah with obe it’ll line up stats
1s per cp spent i think
I think you end up holding vendetta for a couple seconds with obe but its fine
Because like for Sire for example, it would completly desync theim for phase 3 etc...
if they didnt change anything i m not aware of
In almost 95% of the cases you want to have specific burst damage windows at specific key moment (like Bloodlust) so I just sync every time usually
Yeah that makes hella sense
obedience waiting room 
Agree with miki
I feel like on sire i often had to hold dmg in p1 for hc pugs so i just ended up syncing for example
Totally makes sense
yup
in some case you delay Flag, in some other you delay Vend. With obedience in the picture that might be somehow irrelevant tho
Is doomblade still being crafted on Hands? Played Outlaw all season 1 M+...might give Ass. a go in season 2.
cloak
but you would never play doomblade in m+
you'd play zoldyck or obedience if you play venthyr and it doesn't get nerfed
zold on legs, obed on cloak
i know...im talking for raiding
oh
sorry, wasnt clear enough
Thanks for the help :)....I'll craft it now
he went to play classic
gg
Hey guys, i wanna craft Doomblade for PvP and probably raiding depending if Sub is better. Should i craft with Vers/Haste or Haste/Crit?
Anyone tested out the 233 trinket from korthia? That bleed at max lvl seems pretty OP
guys the venthyr legendary isnt recommended in the pin (or am i blind) whats the reason for it?
u blind
Legendary choice:
Single Target: Doomblade > Dashing Scoundrel > Duskwalker > MA > Zoldyck*
:/
this is an old pin
look at the sims
aight tyvm guys
so the venthyr lego is as op as i thought. do u guys know how it affects the playstyle?
i mean the lego itself reduces the Lashing scars cooldown
do u play it on CD then?
i mean like can u get 2 Flags in 1 Vendetta CD
fixed
close
it's like 1:05-1:10 for sin
@balmy condor aight, ty
!bis
we don't support bis lists anymore
they lead to people trolling themselves
sim yourself instead


we putting dauntless on helm or cloak
any idea which trinkets are gunna be bis?
bro waht
Propably kelthhuzads and guardian of the first ones
We really Wildin’ out here
obedience*
Bro am i schizing out or what
phial + shadowgrasp/fusion
Cloak, don’t wanna mess with dom sockets
cloak, helm is a dom socket
yes
Dauntless goes on the cloak 
works out well
party favors goes on this dick
;)
O


Damn everyone wildin’ tonight

u guys hear what happened in kenya?
Respect
?
Really
My brain hurts
Yo tobey
yo
Kenya fit this dick in your mouth?

Rolled
Xd

lmao thats a sick gif actually tho
bender is pogchamp
Assa rogue 😎
Assassination rogue
@balmy condor assassination rogue
assassination r
gue
that's what Im saying
are you guys planning on playing sub
Yep
or just sticking with sin
unless
Trifecta specta
sub gets nerfed or obedience
I like sin the most both on pve and pvp
if we get nerfed ill flip my desk
Sub feels like I'm mages bitch
Ima play sub in heroic week for at least normal and then prob play sin
tru
No 😛
my b
Nerf d*wntime obedience scaling
"stealth dependency" is actually the new one we're adding to the list
Ya ima play sub for the mega dungeon and see if I like it
im staying necro for the first 2 weeks then swapping to venth unless venth is doing wild first week in
Sounds like something fortyone would say
Haven’t seen that, guess I’ve been blessed 
Who tf coined that beauty?
Can't wait for sylvanas dagger 😊
Bless my eyes please 👀
I'll use it in a sentence
"Sin has more stealth dependency than outlaw"


lmaooooo
Is this a term now
I love it
Actually with the master assassin legendary outlaw has quite a lot of stealth dependency
U just
but it's just not really that big anymore
Aren’t educated on stealth dependency man
I mean it sucks if you arent in stealth for garrote opener but vanish is a key anyways its fine
Waaahh one pull ruins my overall waaaahh
I think this term should be used more in pvp scenarios
yeah but no one cares about pvp
I love love love stealth dependencu
This is the optimal copium phrase

9.1 really bringing some bait
No this is awesome
But why sin is so chill to play in 2s just for the 2.1 gear
Sheeeeeeeeeesh
Sheeeeeesh
Is 2.1 gear 2100?
it was a thing all of bfa
we're just stomping it now
I cant wait for people to come in here and talk about stealth dependency
Y
I c

The mental gymnastics to justify
What does that mean kreay
distract both ways
Also yes
maybe pick pocket in stealth
Stealth dependency... cant cast pickpocket 
It's all vampires and blood Anima now :( have to leave necrochads
True

necro will dominate in m+ tho if ure main focus is on that
Will it?
I mostly raid and pvp
Obedience out sims it
in dungeon slice?
Yes
necro won't dominate shit with obedience atm
O.O

Also
good heavens
Sin in m+
you also would be trolling to play sin
Is it that bad ?
In m+ yes
U haven’t seen the scriptures man
are u talkin about m+?
what would we play then
Sub or outlaw
oh damn
Sin is fine to a point tho
this is all news to me
You can for sure do 20+
But it's very weird cus of stats
and i thought i was well researched
I mean
it can be annoying tho if you play with a tank that never let you drop combat
asass for cleavies then huh
Well, not quite sure how it’ll do for m+ do to cleave situations but
sub for everything else? even m+?

bofa
Yep
Oh it does
jesus
Deadly Poison doesn't apply on some casts like Garrote, Rupture, and Shiv.
It's a minor bug but "notable" in that it does have some noticeable impact on DPS.
Should be around a 100-200 dps loss
interesting
But how many bosses from raid it's really a patchwerk
Some sleuthing occurred last night 
But the bug is like
300 I think
So if the bug is fixed
Then we should be only 400 simdps behind 🙂

Assa feels fine for most keys obviously when you reach the higher end it's gonna be more noticeable but I'm comfortably doing 21's. Just broke top 50 assa in the world for m+ today
gratz
Gz
Gz
pog moment
Keep pushing 
Thank's everyone
3 more portals to secure
I would love to get portals but its gonna take some effort
Maybe even finding friends
And improvement but thats the fun part
yuck
finding friends
that requires interacting with people
and people are the worst
Random wow players 
ikr?
Im cool with real people
Hi dad
Oh
Its like im busy pugging and its so rare that people are good, not that i am either
And then i have to add some of them
Surely im losing jt
It
Surely.
Finding portals is loving worst
aye cov swap is out poggies
Yeah.
I was about to say usually i overdose on copium when i tell myself ill have fun playing league, but im on vacation so that definitely isnt it

yeh the portals to the dungeons if you time 20's
the only fun you have during league is when you hit the exit game button 
feels weird that we are able to get portals before the season started
Yeah
wonder if we'll keep them
League is Poggers
It was on wowhead too lol
What a lie
Try 8
Clown ur coping

Now I play assassination rogue
#off-topic that way
Quick save
I can understand u want to make obedience on the cloak for your "bis" list
But how about in the start of the tier, isn't a high level head piece better?
I mean as soon as you need the unholy socket bonus you need head to have a socket
the main reason you're putting it on cloak is for domination sockets slots to be open
not for the stats on the item piece
I think head is like the most important since it gives the set bonus
Ah okay, fair enough
I mean even then, "better" is super super relative in this case
head vs cloak obedience is probably like 15 dps
this korthia neck looking kinda 👀
Yeah same
I realyl doubt it's worth it to upgrade that to 233, the amount of currency you need is crazy
bro theres so much stuff to do in the opener
o.o
my shriveled up little brain cant process all that
yeah
Oh I thought u were referring to
sin opener so much easier than sub lol
First week of 9.1
(imo)
LOL
make a cast sequence macro and let it auto open for you!
Yeah I mean
Just practice
It’s kinda sorta same every time
there is not such a thing as hard gameplay or openers in wow soooo......
ghost out here tryina sell macros
class gameplay is easy for all specs
clown
Chess gameplay
reason i quit playing sub was bc it was too easy lol
lol
rotation is very bland imo
I'm old school. I remember when the autorogue addon existed/worked.
i dont say X is more easy then Y cus that just always starts stupid discussions
Yrue
but its simply: no spec in WoW is hard
the FIGHTS are the hard part
the classes/specs can be learned in 1hour
Just play whats fun
Anyone who tells you youre less for playing something "easier" is stupid
Except for outlaw
did io scores get inflated or something i dont remember being 2200 before yesterday
Yes
its using the new wow rating system
Blizzard in game score
where 2k is ~all keys on tyranical/fort in a +15
4K
imma keep it real with you bro all except one key are 19/20
Im curious what my new one is
Yeah
Ooh mine is 2k
it should be 4k for all +15s tyrann/fort
oo
Yep
thats kinda cringe
r u guys gona be running with vent or necro?
I just did weeklies after getting ksm tho
venthyr personally
ty
im perma stealthed rn wtf
But obedience is an 11% leggo
Right
Whereas zoldyck is 11% only in execute phase
Mbmb
If I switch covenants this week, will I be able to gain the new two renown lvls this id? Or will I have to wait for next id and grind the two lvls before I do the weekly stuff?
Next
Thank you 
Nah I was asking the same question today
i thought you could get them this week
you get a new 1k anima quest when you switch i heard
you get return lost souls too
you can get it somehow
Doesn’t give you renown
thats dumb
i need like 3 catch up renown
U get renown only from Korea weekly and anima weekly
and souls quest didn't show renown
lame
probaby gonna have to finish venthyr campaign
need to either way
assault gave u renown?
yeah its a weekly
gives u 1 renown i think
That’s not catchup
and oh
Only way to increase past max yeeah
No
are u fking kidding me
guess im gonna have to
what rep do korthia dailies give
jw if im inting not doing them
one of em gives relics :/ shit
Deaths advance
you should have waited with the 1k anima quest till you are renown 40
question, i want to craft doomblade leggo, the ingame tooltip sais that i can craft it on hands, sholders, and back, should i go for the back one to keel the shard item slots open?
i`m necro btw
cool thanks
Pretty sure you can catch up to 42 by doing mythic+
I did plague heroic till 42. So, it's easy to reach 42
just skipt the first 2 bosses and you're gucci
question: Does dauntless duelist reset if the mob is killed but you're still in combat?
like if there was a boss and add, and you hit the add first, and then it dies and you continue on boss, will you mark the boss with dauntless?
Yes
It will move over to your next target
okay, good to know. For a ssecond I thought maybe you had to be out of combat for it to reapply
guys how come outlaw sims have dagger in? is the effect implemented or not?
tyty
whispyr sub ahead of outlaw in dslice without daggers implemented?
yes

it was ahead before as well
year of the shadow bby
Yeah just like 9.0 
Ambush is currently only used from blindside/sepsis proc, not from stealth.
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3).
Some other factors to consider are increased poison applications, blindside, and doomblade. This is true for all talent combinations and legendaries.
Seasonal power prio in pins next week?
Which stats should i put on doom blade cloak?
Crit haste
yup if you get doomblade that is
sorry yea, with Doomblade
obedience looks good on venthyr for maximum single target
if u check the sims @pins
Guys quick question, this week im Necro and did the 1st quest to swap for Venth. If i reach renown 44-45 next reset with Necro then swap to venth, do you know if i will have the cach up mechanic on Venth (renown 40)?
I swapped from necro (42) to venthyr (40) and the world boss gave me one renown this week, there's probably some catch up for you
@rigid pine i see, thanks for the info m8
holy shit i run out of energy so quick in the opener
Is there any easy way to get a high ilvl lashing conduit? I heard it was going to be easy to get 226 conduits from Korthia but now I don’t remember where I heard that
So Venthyr inf u only aim to play Sin for m+ and raid?
It depends on your luck. If you have all conduits at 213, getting 226 lashing can be first or it can it be last as the conduit that gets upgraded is random
Need help?
just trying to figure how to pace myself because i run out of energy after i mutilate snd garrote
Are we talking about the upgrade from venari that’s bought with stygia?
What u can do is
The whatever crescents you can get from korthia rares/treasures work exactly the same way as venari conduit upgrades
Gotcha. I didn’t play my rogue much last tier so that sucks for that lol
Short Question: Does the "Fire Razorwing Quill" (Trinket) Bleed work with Doomblade ? And is it in general an okay trinket for sin ?
@kind talon pooling worked but now im stuck with another issue my dps is ass outside of burst period
idk how im doing 4k at 226 lmao
yeah
If you’re not popping cds
ah i see
im hitting about 15k on opener without prepot lust or buffs
i think thats pretty good
yeah
does liquifiying ooze trinket and flayedwing toxin cound towards doomblade legendary?
Are they bleeds? :^)
No
no
There’s no interaction between trinkets and rogue leggo’s
what about the korthia trinket proc
No
ok ty



what does more dps ? vanish mutilate envenom mutilate or vanish mutilate mutilate envanom
Depends of your cp generation
jesus christ its the morning aint it ( for me )
what situation is this in?
you want to line up vanish with CDs
so if i get 4 cp i go for envenom ?
so u think its worth to maybe overcap 2 cp cause of master assasin proc ?
If u vanish and u have max cp you open with env ofc
u dont get my question
It doesn’t matter damio
As long as you
Cast 2 mutilates
And one envenom
Within the window
You are golden
but if i get 4 cp with my first mutilate what do i do with master assasin proc sec mutilate or envenom
its not a proc
its a buff
if you're playing deeper, you want to finish at 5 CP or max, if vigor you want to finish at 4.
you want to line up shiv with Vanish.
You should shiv before vanish mut. It would be very very unlucky to get only 3 cp after that
Or low gear lack of crits I guess
u cant shiv all the time before van mut
Yes u can and u do
u cant press shiv on cd
Wot
slam that shit
Slam shiv
Well that's an issue
yo guys you have raid mech^^
Oh yea true on sludge u don't use it on CD
Shiv?
thats one fight though and even then you still use it
Otherwise it's on CD for 9/10 bosses whatever the mecanicq
no mechannic is changing the fact you SLAM shiv.
Keep it mind when u press vendetta u have 10s to press vanish
vanish is like a 2m CD, shiv is like 20
if you use shiv on CD ( rather you use it right away or not )
they should line up
99% of the time
its okay if you wait a few seconds
alright



WYF

