assassination

[kind talon]

Yes

[thorny pond]

Where's that cracked sim from earlier where that dude did that

[young nacelle]

[thorny pond]

because it was his top DPS

[arctic hare]

The switch to venthyr, get obedience, then go to necro

That, sounds hilariously powerful

[thorny pond]

yea

[kind talon]

?

[spice spire]

Except

[thorny pond]

because flag is a necro

ability

[kind talon]

U don’t have

Flag

?

[spice spire]

Obedience is useless without flag 😦

[arctic hare]

OH LOL

[kind talon]

Sadge

[young nacelle]

r/woosh

[arctic hare]

I hadn’t even thought about it

[kind talon]

Every sbs

Is a flag

[mental laurel]

Do we put Doomblade on back now as necro? Wowhead seems to show it

[arctic hare]

Woosh indeed

[spice spire]

Yes we do!

[mental laurel]

Ty. Why is that?

[winged basin]

is obedience getting nerfed? WOULDNT YOU LIKE TO KNOW NERD

[winged basin]

Domination sockets op

[spice spire]

Domination sockets on other two slots @mental laurel

So in order to keep the legendary and not mess with other slots, it goes to back

[mental laurel]

Rip I need to figure out what domination sockets are now... Haven't looked into that yet...

[thorny pond]

I hope they nerf domination sockets

so yall can get new content

[young nacelle]

just delete them tbh

[spice spire]

Hope they nerf you papi

[thorny pond]

This channel is the George Lopez of content, stealing everyone's jokes

[young nacelle]

isnt that carlos mencia?

[warped moon]

mr lopez stole jokes?

[thorny pond]

Who knows

[arctic hare]

Who?

[warped moon]

@worn jay

[kind talon]

I heard he had ligma

[young nacelle]

hate to see it

[kind talon]

Who had ligma

😦

[arctic hare]

Everyone

[kind talon]

No

[young nacelle]

[kind talon]

Who had ligma

[arctic hare]

lol

[kind talon]

Not everyone

[arctic hare]

Oh, the person who

[spice spire]

#off-topic 👈

[kind talon]

Sorry

[spice spire]

I have no authority here LMFAO

[arctic hare]

LOL

[young nacelle]

[spice spire]

Same shtick currently tho

[arctic hare]

But you do quake

[kind talon]

We respect u

[arctic hare]

Indeed

[kind talon]

[arctic hare]

And I haven’t been here for 3 days

[spice spire]

Nah I’m a shitter. I just enjoy people and want to help where I can

[odd hazel]

you dont enjoy me cause im a mecha

[young nacelle]

imagine enjoying people

[arctic hare]

Which is the entire reason why we respect you lol

[odd hazel]

#QuakeForCF

[balmy condor]

#off-topic

[odd hazel]

oh

that person does have authority

So uh, hows sin looking for you guys?

[kind talon]

obedience

prety cool

[thorny pond]

Ban me chief

[odd hazel]

what

the fuck

happened to your red beach

[thorny pond]

you all beat it out of me

[neon cloak]

We will all be vampires soon

[thorny pond]

I'm a free agent

[arctic hare]

Hahaha, nice move

[kind talon]

guys

sylvanas dagger

lets tlak about it

[oak sky]

Good sub pretty good assa ok outlaw

[spice spire]

It looks aggressively mediocre but good if that means anything. Push did some testing and it was about 3% over 5 minutes with normal

Like fine, not great, but fine

[odd hazel]

it'll still be BiS

[oak sky]

Im curious if going double fists on outlaw will be better than a fist and a sylvanas dagger

Or some other setup

[arctic hare]

Yeah, 5% fo a weapon will be nuts

Then don’t forget that from what I’ve seen, most of the dmg we’ll do it melee

[young nacelle]

so what exactly is the whole deal with the sylv daggers?

[arctic hare]

And since sylvanas is last boss, her weapons will be higher

[magic gale]

are you guys gonna craft obedience when we unlock it?

[odd hazel]

i mean

it stacks too so

[arctic hare]

They have a pretty powerful effect

[odd hazel]

if it stays liek it is, of course

[young nacelle]

didnt i see somewhere they removed that tho?

or is it back now

[spice spire]

When you use a finishing move it has a chance to proc. It was removed until last night on PTR

[arctic hare]

Do good damage with a 3% chance per combo point

[spice spire]

And it was tested

[magic gale]

im in the fear of it getting nerfed the week after we craft it kek

[teal bloom]

Obedience

[odd hazel]

knowing my luck, i'll craft it then it'll be nerfed 30 mins after

[oak sky]

It was bugged and messed up but hopefully when people get it on live it should be back

[young nacelle]

oh pog. so they fixed the daggers then

[fleet mango]

does serrated bone spike work with doomblade legendary for assa?

[balmy condor]

yes

[spice spire]

They halved the proc rate but kept the damage

[arctic hare]

Oh crap seriously?

[spice spire]

Yes

Originally the proc rate was bonkers

[arctic hare]

No no, not that, I meant the serrated bone spike thingy

But thats good to know too

[spice spire]

Oh yeah

Always has been

[desert pasture]

u still leaning venth sub/sin @balmy condor ? I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet beccause I had to beg for my place back at the vampires

[odd hazel]

yes he is

[spice spire]

I know you didn’t ask me, but he’s streaming Rn 😛 sims say yes for both

[arctic hare]

Well now I know why sbs is so good

[spice spire]

And he’s also venthyr

So I’d say yes he’s leaning toward venthyr 😛

[desert pasture]

o ye didn't know he streamed that will do for me

[odd hazel]

#GoGive our boy whispyr a follow

https://www.twitch.tv/whispyrttv

[spice spire]

It also deals a lot of damage through gemstone windows making it a neat burst window for cheap cp generation+high damage

[winged basin]

GIVE HIM YOUR MONEYS

THATS MY DAD

[kind talon]

sbs is a lot of damage

yep

[young nacelle]

o whispyr cute 👀

[kind talon]

but venthyr is more damage

yep

whispyr is v cutie

[spice spire]

Can confirm

[winged basin]

I thought that said kinda cute

I was like scuse me, he adorable

[young nacelle]

[arctic hare]

Gemstone???

[kind talon]

marrowed gemstone

soulbind

[arctic hare]

Which doess?

[kind talon]

heirmir

gives u 18% crit iirc

every 60 seconds

p much

for 10

iirc

[arctic hare]

Oooo, tastay

[odd hazel]

didnt they nerf a necro soulbind?

[kind talon]

idk

[arctic hare]

I remember hating bonespike

[neon cloak]

how much Soul Ash we are getting in the 2nd run

[arctic hare]

20%

[tribal magnet]

if i wanted to min/max the shit out of my rogue, what professions would be the best to pick up for 9.1 . Any ideas?

[neon cloak]

Oo

[arctic hare]

Which was like, 100-200?

For a 9 anyways

[neon cloak]

thats too low tho

[arctic hare]

Heyyyy

Better than nothib

[kind talon]

professions dont matter

[arctic hare]

Nothin

[kind talon]

lol

[neon cloak]

i though they are giving us much more 😦

[kind talon]

go alch for 2 hour flasks

[odd hazel]

you getl ike 1000 for layer 9, and then 20% after that for each run

[tribal magnet]

so there aint a special jewelcrafting ring or so to craft?

[odd hazel]

nah

[white igloo]

yall still thinking Zoldyck for M+?

[arctic hare]

Pins

[odd hazel]

obedience is looking like top for M+

[arctic hare]

But yes, I believe so

[spice spire]

If not venthyr, yes

[arctic hare]

Oh, right, if obedience gets nerfed then prolly zoldyck again

[odd hazel]

current sims

[arctic hare]

I haven’t tried zoldyck, seems interesting enough

[white igloo]

what is obedience? a new leggo?

[arctic hare]

Yeah

[odd hazel]

venth leggo

[white igloo]

im necro

[arctic hare]

lol

[odd hazel]

then yeah zold

[white igloo]

on pants currently, that good?

[odd hazel]

yeah

[arctic hare]

Yup

[spice spire]

It’s not. It’s good, but it’s not interesting 😛

[arctic hare]

That sucks

[spice spire]

It’s just a passive execute

[rugged zephyr]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[arctic hare]

I absolutely LOVED doomblade

There was a conduit on feral that acts just like doomblade, except for the fact that doomblade is just straight up stronger

And more interesting

[cinder dagger]

anyone having energy probles?

[arctic hare]

Well

[kind talon]

whats interesting about doomblade

[arctic hare]

Mutilate

Puts a bleed

On a target

[kind talon]

ya

[arctic hare]

Thats awesome lol

Heh, I’m a sucker for bleeds

[spice spire]

Not really. Are you keeping bleeds up? Also what’s your ilvl? That comes into play 😛

[long furnace]

vamp bois

[arctic hare]

True

[kind talon]

i guess its cool

[cinder dagger]

almost at 200

im using vigor though

[spice spire]

Ahhh

[arctic hare]

Same

[cinder dagger]

it seems a bit different before patch

[kind talon]

meh i think its pretty cool but like

got old

[cinder dagger]

im really used to sub

[kind talon]

fast

[arctic hare]

Keeping rupture on as many targets in aoe as you can is a huge part for energy regen

[kind talon]

garrote

[arctic hare]

Usually what, 4?

[spice spire]

Yeah you’ll have it in a bit. It should be about the same

[kind talon]

and rupture

[spice spire]

It’s just slow Rn

[kind talon]

all of them

[spice spire]

All if possible

[arctic hare]

Garrote too? Good to know

[oak sky]

5 for prio damage as many as possible for damage

[kind talon]

yes

[cinder dagger]

im talking more on single target

[spice spire]

Garrote as many as you can

[kind talon]

5 bleeds for prio damage

[arctic hare]

Same thing

[kind talon]

that includes garrote

and rupture

[cinder dagger]

with bleeds on

[arctic hare]

Then use slicendice and keep it maintained

[kind talon]

but for aoe

[cinder dagger]

maybe its cause im in master vers gear

[kind talon]

u just rupture everything

[arctic hare]

True

[oak sky]

Yeah haste makes your regen feel a lot better

[spice spire]

Yeah mast VS definitely affects it

[arctic hare]

Mmmmm hmm

[spice spire]

Instead of haste that is

[kind talon]

yepcock

[arctic hare]

Hey guys, ever had less than 7% haste on a rogue?

[spice spire]

Yes

[oak sky]

Usually for st sin rogue gets a lot of haste and a lot of crit

[arctic hare]

I died that day

[oak sky]

But secondaries dont make or break damage

[spice spire]

You just adjust accordingly 😛

Also @cinder dagger what’s your first row talent?

[cinder dagger]

Master poisoner-

[arctic hare]

I was outlaw before, and ended up messing up my stats bad

YEOUCH

[spice spire]

Oh no no no

[arctic hare]

Nononononono

[west yoke]

is crit/haste best for doomblade on back? or sim it?

[cinder dagger]

.<

[kind talon]

oh no no no

[spice spire]

Go blindside

[cinder dagger]

blindside?

[arctic hare]

Third talent

[cinder dagger]

I only had the poisoner legendary xD so i figured

[kind talon]

blindside

[arctic hare]

Oh, hmm

[spice spire]

ST IS 3/3/2(until you get to about 215, 1 should be fine)/2/0:/2/1

[oak sky]

Elaborate planning in aoe or burst dps is good blindside in st or execute is good

[arctic hare]

Yeah

[oak sky]

Also poison bomb is good in pure st but crimson tempest is good in 2 targets or more

[arctic hare]

Hey make it quake, any idea how worth it using marked for death over vigor is?

[cinder dagger]

I feel like poison bomb never procs

so i figured the tempest would be better

[arctic hare]

Also, when moving a ton in single target, crimson tends to be better

[kind talon]

never

lol

[spice spire]

Depends on the type of fight. For dungeon slice iirc it’s 30 or less

Not worth the efrort

[oak sky]

Poison bomb is only really better if theres 1 target to damage

[cinder dagger]

im just world questing /world pvping tbh

[arctic hare]

Good to know lol

[spice spire]

For ST not worth

[cinder dagger]

second talent?

should i run master assasin over poison boy leggy

[lean quail]

Depends on what the fights are like yeah; i almost never see mfd on sin thi

[spice spire]

Subterfuge for aoe/dungeons/master assassin for ST

[kind talon]

MA is

[spice spire]

I assume poison leggy is Zoldyck’s?

[arctic hare]

I still suck at using master assassin

[kind talon]

terrible leggo

for assa

[oak sky]

Its ok

[spice spire]

It’s not terrible

There are builds that make it shine

[oak sky]

But you only get it if you multispec hard

[cinder dagger]

i only have that and the poisons legendary

[kind talon]

MA is only good for outlaw

[spice spire]

But they even out so we usually don’t recommend as they’re pretty weird 😛

[kind talon]

wot

[oak sky]

Poisons legendary? Like zoldyck insignia?

[kind talon]

dashing

i think

[cinder dagger]

yeah

[kind talon]

he means

[spice spire]

MA/Nightstalker/CT is a thing

Ahhh dashing/MA

[kind talon]

not quite sure

[kind talon]

oh

[spice spire]

Keep Zoldyck’s for now

[lean quail]

I like MA, but then yeah i played all 3 specs at the time

[spice spire]

It’s a good all around legendary 🙂

[thorny pond]

Tiny Toxic Blades

[arctic hare]

Pfffft

[spice spire]

TTB gamers

[chrome widget]

Can you still farm leggos in twisting corridors?

Does it still work the same?

[thorny pond]

aye

[spice spire]

Should still be able to yeah

[kind talon]

ttb is cracked

[arctic hare]

lol

[thorny pond]

what is cracked?

[spice spire]

Master poisoner is just undertuned is why we don’t run it even with Zoldyck’s @cinder dagger

[chrome widget]

I need Zold leggo.. And I don't wanna wait for cold heart

[oak sky]

Just for world stuff you should probably go blindside for first talent and the rest of those talents are probably ok

[arctic hare]

Yeah

[spice spire]

I’d agree with that

[cinder dagger]

what do you guys run for the third row talents

[thorny pond]

Vigor usually

Unless we are ST

[arctic hare]

Same

[thorny pond]

then DS

[chrome widget]

I'm definitely swapping venth today too I think and banking the incoming freebie I think

[oak sky]

Pure st is deeper but other than that vigor yeah

[arctic hare]

How, how do you manage your energy that well

[odd hazel]

might see more EP Vigor this patch

[young nacelle]

i hope so

i fucking hate ds

[oak sky]

Yeah, with higher uptime it gets better right?

[thorny pond]

I play sub

that's how

[arctic hare]

Oh

[odd hazel]

i mean

[arctic hare]

Never played it

[odd hazel]

energy feels fine with deeper

[thorny pond]

I pull up a side browser

and put on a show for sin ST

and be pateint

[cinder dagger]

does master assasin + MA legendary stack?

[thorny pond]

No point

[spice spire]

Unsure, but it’s not that great even if it does

[thorny pond]

MA + MA is just shudder

[spice spire]

Zoldyck’s is better than MA in the same niche

[oak sky]

^

[spice spire]

Doomblade is your ST, unless you go venthyr in which case you craft obedience and call it a day

[thorny pond]

Someone put it this way

MA is great if it's a 20 sec pull

[cinder dagger]

why we talking about sub in assasin

i was looking for doomblade

on assasin

rip

LOL

[thorny pond]

not as great if it's a 5min pull

[cinder dagger]

im not new dw

[oak sky]

Zoldyck is probably the best first leggo on sin unless you only want to raid on it

Ur fine

[cinder dagger]

is MA better than nightstalker?

[thorny pond]

For what content?

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[cinder dagger]

assasin low geared

[thorny pond]

Okay. So raids, M+, PvP?

[cinder dagger]

mhm

[gusty mirage]

Excuse me sir. Where is your red name?

[thorny pond]

are you trolling me?

They beat it out of me mang

[spice spire]

Yes

[oak sky]

Red names only 😡

[spice spire]

Night stalker has a niche place, but creates a weird build and play pattern not normally recommended

Very bursty though 😛

[oak sky]

Mfd nightstalker shenanigans

[spice spire]

Mfd NS MA legendary CT

[kind talon]

nightstalker is

less uh

whats the word

consistent

[oak sky]

Damage?

[kind talon]

imo

that too

kekw

[cinder dagger]

Thank youu btw for all yalls help

ppl in game suck

😄

[alpine latch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Fuus Shadowlands evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/uxr1tz

[spice spire]

Yessir anymore questions just ask whenever

[cinder dagger]

RIP messaging another rogue in the world

[oak sky]

[winged basin]

yo, so real talk, I am gonna ask a dumb question. Does anyone know how hard it is to get from 40-42 once you swap covs?.. am I going to be a week behind cause I had to wait to swap?

[lean quail]

Catching up generally is pretty forgiving

[kind talon]

u wont be

a week behind

for more than a week

iirc

[lean quail]

And also yeah blizzard is giving everyone 1 free swap per account

[kind talon]

but if u did the weeklies

[spice spire]

You won’t be behind at all

[kind talon]

wdyjm per acc

[spice spire]

Apparently you can do it again and all is right in the world

[kind talon]

betrayal status is rese4t for everyibe

every character

and every covenant

[lean quail]

Oh lit

[kind talon]

ya

[oak sky]

I think you can only get to the maximum rank if you save the weekly renown quests for last

[lean quail]

Cool, so every charactee then

[kind talon]

and its not 1 swap

[spice spire]

I thought so too, had a few refuters and oxi confirmed

[thorny pond]

Next patch it'll cost $25 to reset the status

[kind talon]

its all betrayal status

so u can swap back to any cove

[alpine latch]

FML ... Do I swap to Venthyr tonight or not

[kind talon]

sure

[spice spire]

So I’m going with the refutes

[lean quail]

True, theres a difference

[alpine latch]

I need to decide within the next 48 hours if I swap or not 😢

[kind talon]

doesnt rly matter just semantics

js

@alpine latch swap

[spice spire]

Yes

[kind talon]

now

dont be anxious about it

just do it

dont look back

[alpine latch]

It's not 40 renown. My rogue is newer

[winged basin]

well I knew about the free swap, but I am only 40 renown on my venth, so I just dont want to be behind lol

[alpine latch]

So that means I'm grinding renown

[kind talon]

u wont be behind

dw

[winged basin]

❤️

[kind talon]

the nwe catchup

[spice spire]

Catchup is ez king

[kind talon]

makes it so ez to get to 40

dw

[alpine latch]

There's a new catchup?

[kind talon]

yes

[alpine latch]

What is it?

[kind talon]

cove campaign is 2

not 1

[alpine latch]

Oh shit

[kind talon]

iirc

renown

[alpine latch]

So that's like 18 right there

[spice spire]

Just higher rewards, world boss is 3, and higher drop from other stuff

[alpine latch]

Is there an update wowhead guide that covers this?

[spice spire]

But also I remember your weight loss story king, I know you’re a grinder

You got it

[kind talon]

omg

i dont have

[oak sky]

Does 30-40 still have lower drop rates?

[kind talon]

cp

on my ui

anywhere

LLOL

[spice spire]

Probably? Just going with what the gamers™️ have said

[alpine latch]

❤️

[kind talon]

LAPTOP GAMING
TM

[spice spire]

Unsure actually

[kind talon]

droprate of what

[vestal wren]

i also play on a laptop

[kind talon]

ya mine is a school laptop

macbook

so

not ideal

[spice spire]

Renown from 30-40 unsure if it’s still lower

[alpine latch]

One of our better healers is a truck driver and plays on a laptop

[kind talon]

and trackpad so keybinds are wrecked

[vestal wren]

i think a macbook would beat my current device 😛

[kind talon]

:p

[spice spire]

I played on a laptop in throne. Used the touchpad and everything

[vestal wren]

7th gen dual core club

[spice spire]

I was such a cracked gamer

Washed now tho

[kind talon]

if i had a uh

mouse

then it would be fine

[vestal wren]

you can get a cheap one

[kind talon]

ya i could

[oak sky]

I think a mouse is a game changer

[kind talon]

probably should

yes it is

but like no usb port and shitr

so id have to buy adapter too and probbaly at that point its like

100 bucks

[spice spire]

We tablet gaming?

[arctic hare]

I’m a desktop gamer

[oak sky]

Same

[kind talon]

macbook

[spice spire]

Most people are

[kind talon]

but ya i have a desktop

on vaca rn

[oak sky]

I actually dont have a laptop

[spice spire]

Wait on vaca? Take the week off

[arctic hare]

Heh, I’m on vaca rntoo, which is why I’m so ignorant about 9.1

[oak sky]

Damn that makes 3 of us

[spice spire]

Y’all wilding 😛

[arctic hare]

Oh yeah

[kind talon]

im vaca laptop gaming rn

not doing anything else

[arctic hare]

At the beach livin it upppp

[kind talon]

grandparents watching the news kekL

no way i join them

noty

[spice spire]

That’s not vaca then. Vacation is going somewhere desirable 😛

[arctic hare]

Beach is desirable

[kind talon]

LOL

well i mean

its my cousins wedding so

my parents flew me out

for a week

[arctic hare]

Thats

[kind talon]

vaca?

[arctic hare]

Not desirable

[kind talon]

o

not vaca?

[arctic hare]

Depends

[kind talon]

anyways im playying assa rogue in the background rn kinda pog

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s just going to a wedding unless you’re in Vegas or some shit

[oak sky]

Sounds like a trip

We gatekeeping vacations tho?

[arctic hare]

I’ve never actually been to a weddin before, i just can’t wait to play my rogue again

[oak sky]

If he calls it a vacation thats what it is

[quaint dragon]

is necro assa still best for m+?

[kind talon]

LOL

[arctic hare]

Oh no

Not this again

[thorny pond]

Sounds like my queue

[lean zodiac]

do i only do 5 cp rupture in aoe if they'll live or just fan and rupture with whatever it gives me?

[oak sky]

Beach is back

[winged basin]

if they will live long enough

[kind talon]

yes

fan

rupture

fan

rupture

keep fct up

and garrote x3 with vanish 🙂

[thorny pond]

FCT? Florida Crimson Tigers?

[lean zodiac]

ty 🙂

[kind talon]

florida crimson tempest

[arctic hare]

lol

[thorny pond]

So like CT but stickier. Got it

[kind talon]

ct on meth

[thorny pond]

CT with armor pen, got it

[kind talon]

no thats

fmjct

i expected better from u

hand me ur resignation papers before u leave the office today pls

[arctic hare]

lol

[thorny pond]

you ever seen those cats on meth? They'll get through a tank

[spice spire]

Man already resigned and came back

[thorny pond]

I was offered a contract

[kind talon]

true

i offered him an alternative to resignation before he left

and he accepted

glad to have u back

[gusty mirage]

Glad to have you back

[spice spire]

You leaving early today, king?

[quaint dragon]

so venthyr assassin is best for dungs?

[spice spire]

Dungeons and ST at the moment

[oak sky]

Looking that way

[rustic stump]

Anyone know if I after I hit Renown 44 for flying I can switch and keep flying?

[wooden knot]

is obedience like super OP, is that why everyone's talking about potential nerfs? or is it just a general heroic week rebalancing concern

[oak sky]

I think you get a consumeable and its account wide for flying

So yeah

[rustic stump]

Nice thanks

[alpine latch]

Yes, it's an account-wide achievement

[oak sky]

Obedience is big damage and its way past other rogue options but compared to other classes its not that op

[spice spire]

You can look at the numbers and see it’s out of line. Personally I don’t find 8% that OP especially compared to others. But outliers are always a concern. I think it’ll be fine and it is fine

[oak sky]

They should buff our other leggos YEP

[kind talon]

YEP

[spice spire]

The argument is it’ll just be a nerf to obedience with no compensation, which I 100% agree with. Ideally that happens, but it would never in reality

[kind talon]

i mean

obedience getting nerfed is like

pepega

[spice spire]

They’d just need obedience and put us in the dumpster

But I also cba to argue. It’s happened for so long

[oak sky]

Rogue wasnt looking awful without obedience

But like for sub and sin it potentially brings us to near the top of melee st if not the top right?

[kind talon]

yes

[spice spire]

Comparing other classes sims; without obedience sub gets sent to the dirt. And sin is bottom tier but not dirt.

Correct

[kind talon]

fury is bonkerds

guess i main woyer now?

kekw

[oak sky]

I have a 60 warrior but its nf

[kind talon]

ya just swap

kekl

[wooden knot]

isn't fury running nf now?

[oak sky]

Its also like ilvl 150 or something

[kind talon]

no

fury is venthyr

[oak sky]

I think fury goes venthyr leggo now

[kind talon]

or else ur giga trolling

frfr

[wooden knot]

o gotcha

[kind talon]

sinful surge is busted

[spice spire]

It does

[oak sky]

In m+ i think its competitive

[spice spire]

It’s another one that’s GIGA

[oak sky]

Honestly i think i like nf better anyways and idgaf about my warrior

So when i play it its nf

[simple holly]

So sin vebthyr is the way to go? Glad I gather that NL rep....ffs Infexious Gaming...

[kind talon]

ya

sin venthyr

[oak sky]

Is top damage for nf fury the nf leggo?

[wooden knot]

infexious is worth watching because of the accent

[spice spire]

Yep always listen to your local theory crafter over CC

[oak sky]

Or is it using whatever their old leggo is

[kind talon]

no clue

their pins are dogshit

[gusty mirage]

It’s 4:32 and still here with a buncha stuff to do. So prolly not 😂

[kind talon]

and i cba to interact in that discord

too much misinformation

[oak sky]

I dont think im gonna be able to handle going to any other class disc after being in this one

[spice spire]

F. I’m leaving in like a couple. Hoping soon papi

[kind talon]

lol fr

[simple holly]

I live in Scotland, so it's not special...

[gusty mirage]

We’re discussing infexious?

[kind talon]

apparently im getting my anima examined

is this like a animoscopy or somerthing

[gusty mirage]

Did they buy you dinner first?

[kind talon]

are they touching my anima inappropriately?

[wooden knot]

so when i tried to race change my Void Elf rogue to Night Elf, the transaction failed - was this the gods telling me to stay Void Elf or should I power through and try again

[oak sky]

I didnt even join with a specific question or anything but i learned so much from cev, whispyr, pins, and the gang anyway

[kind talon]

[vestal wren]

impact seems low

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

yes its bad

why is there no default trash emoji

id like to speak to the emoji manager

[gusty mirage]

Because I’m enough trash. Just tag me it’s the same thing

[kind talon]

ok

sinful surge is @gusty mirage confirmed

YEP

[gusty mirage]

[kind talon]

get bent

[oak sky]

Sorry guys im not gonna be chatting for an hour i gotta watch growl pug with sv hunter as mw monk

[spice spire]

Oxi you put yourself down one more time and I’ll show you how homies treat other homies

On GOD

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

We lift each other up

[winter vapor]

couldnt just let Necro stay 'optimal' for M+, bleh.

[simple holly]

Is nl still better if playing outlaw in m+

[kind talon]

true

i mean

self appreciative oxi is not oxi anymore

he has to be self deprecating or else its offbrand

its raining now yikers

[oak sky]

Doesnt matter oxi is a winner

[kind talon]

this is ture

oxi is a 🐐

[spice spire]

Oxi’s brand is being a qt

[oak sky]

Literally drowning in juicer parses

[kind talon]

sec ill brb

gotta follow venari

Stay close, Maw Walker.

[next solar]

mannnnnnnn i just got done getting my mage caught up on venthry lol

[kind talon]

whats wrong

dont wanna do venthyr agin?

[next solar]

no 😐

[midnight temple]

just go chad necro

[next solar]

thats what i currently am

[kind talon]

venthyr is v far ahead

[void pecan]

before maybe some tuning. Who knows next week or mythic week.

[thorny pond]

Please don’t bet on assumptions

Plenty of things much more OP go unchecked

[void pecan]

just sayin if you're necro now, swap then tuning goes through next week/week after..

Imma wait until next week before I swap back

[thorny pond]

Or you’re necro now, then no tuning happens and you’re playing catch up

Either situation you’re behind

[forest delta]

worth upgrading?

[kind talon]

sure

[oak sky]

Is that a heart of azeroth

[forest delta]

indeed

keeping the memories

from the best patch

[kind talon]

hoa is bis

aso

also

uh

cloak

whats it called

[forest delta]

yea the leggo cloak

[kind talon]

ya

ashkandi

or whatever kekw

[forest delta]

ashjra

[kind talon]

heart of alar

?

o

ashjrakamas heart of resolve

sheeeeeesh

i guess u can have 2 leggos technically

if u wear ashjrakamas

[wooden knot]

is the free covenant swtich-back in the game? the blue post says it will be hotfixed in soon - did that happen?

[kind talon]

no

[wooden knot]

kk ty

[serene wyvern]

heya guyz

for m+ and raiding what cov u go for rogue?

necro or venth?

[hoary isle]

NF

[thorny pond]

NF cobra

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14947968

[kind talon]

i think i just played for 1hr

and forgot to press garrote

LOL

fried vaca brain @spice spire

[rapid flame]

any ven rogues who could tell me what conduits you'd be running in m+, with zoldyk, CT and new theotar potency?

[pale heart]

are there any info on which of 9.1 "domination socket sets" we are supposed to go for? could not find any data on this topic

[spice spire]

Unlucky dog. Happens to the best of us 😛

[loud birch]

so what yall doin for raiding prog? necro or ven?

[west geode]

Staying necro til more stable sims

[lean coral]

i went venthyr for the ST dmg

[celest crescent]

hey guys, I want to change my cov for the first time should I do it now or there are some bugs live rn?

just came back after months of break and I heard some rumors that something is bugged rn

[hollow river]

Not that I’ve heard

[fleet anchor]

haha you should see my void storage 😄

[cold spoke]

i say to myself ill clean my void storage one day

[arctic hare]

You use void storage? For what????

[cold spoke]

wdym for what, old gear

[arctic hare]

You can just use the reagent storage, or your bank

[cold spoke]

cant use reagent storage to store my zulian slicers

[arctic hare]

Zulian slicers? Never heard of em

[brisk orchid]

bank storage for raid consumables you can pull in with jeeves

[arctic hare]

Oh, those look nice

[cold spoke]

my bank looks the same as my void storage

full of tabards

and old trinkets

[arctic hare]

You use the well over 200 slots for raid food/pots?

Surprisingly enough, my banks on my characters are almost always pretty much empty save for a few old items

[brisk orchid]

yes 😄

[arctic hare]

Good god

[brisk orchid]

😂

[hollow river]

PTR flex

[brisk orchid]

nope

[arctic hare]

That is something known as dedication right there man, kudos to you

[brisk orchid]

9.1 raid preparations

[cold spoke]

that is a tidy bank

[halcyon zealot]

that’s like half a mil of runes lol

[cold spoke]

im not gonna link mine lol

[arctic hare]

Yeah lol

[brisk orchid]

yeah was about 300k of runes

bought them 2/3 week ago

[arctic hare]

I recommend adibags for your bags, they’re great

[cold spoke]

its full of shit like soul capacitor warforged which i felt bad to vendor so it sits there

[fleet anchor]

Bank is for all the current xpac stuff I might need, redundant backup trinket, upgradable gear, consumables etc..

[arctic hare]

Oh, hmm, interesting

[brisk orchid]

^ ^Jeeves bank is too underrated

[arctic hare]

I just like the fact that they just straight up added a bank in the first place

[brisk orchid]

it's so useful for being able to transfer things

[arctic hare]

Jeeves bank???

[brisk orchid]

yeah if you're an engineer you can use jeeves to access your bank

which is how I took that screenshot while doing my venthyr campaign 😂

[arctic hare]

The jealousy arises

I have a mailbox toy that I can use once every three hours

[cold spoke]

i cant even make myself to sell my old fishing rods lmao

they all sit in the bank

[arctic hare]

Now that thing, that thing is underrated

[brisk orchid]

underlight angler though, never need another fishing rod again

water walking + druid swim form on any class

OP

[arctic hare]

I’m wanting to get that

But

[cold spoke]

nah its some green one from leveling

[arctic hare]

Idk how really, and it requires far too many rare fish

[brisk orchid]

Well if your server is active and you're lucky you can buy the rare bait from the AH for a few k

then all you need to do is fly to each zone

[arctic hare]

Oh, cool

[brisk orchid]

and do the baits

[arctic hare]

I play on sargeras lol

[fleet anchor]

Can't get rid of that stuff! 😄

[arctic hare]

So

Many

Legendarrries

[cold spoke]

oh ye i also keep like all of the legion legendaries

[arctic hare]

lol

[cold spoke]

my entire void + banks looks like this

[fleet anchor]

Although it's sad now they don't do anything...

[brisk orchid]

I have a similar thing on my feral 😂

[fleet anchor]

But I still won't trash them

[arctic hare]

Yeah, i wish they still worked on timewalking

[brisk orchid]

some legendaries do though

[cold spoke]

i see youre also man of culture

and bank the trinkets

[brisk orchid]

like the MoP cloaks do

[arctic hare]

MoP cloak, never got that oe

One*

[cold spoke]

convergence of fates

[fleet anchor]

Hey well, it pays off occassionally

[arctic hare]

I did however farm the warglaives of azzinoth about a year back and got them back to back

[cold spoke]

i think half my bank is trinkets

[fleet anchor]

🤣

[cold spoke]

lol

[arctic hare]

Noice lol

[fleet anchor]

These moments just reinforce my hoarder mentality

[arctic hare]

Hahaha

[cold spoke]

use the battlemaster one

[fleet anchor]

5% of my damage from a 50 ilevel trinket. Prepatch was wild man

50 ilevel MYTHIC TITANFORGED version ofc

[pure moth]

I organized my void storage by tier sets. In columns from how you see it in a character panel.
Ocd lol

[fleet anchor]

Can't ever vendor that

Too much pain gone into getting it

[cold spoke]

my hoarder mentality was booming when timewalking happened

[bitter canyon]

anyone know if its possible to pull out a korthia rare in the rift out to the regular world?

[cold spoke]

ofc i hoarder all bis siege gear

[bitter canyon]

have a friend in the rift next to a rare but none of us have keys

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[silver fog]

!guide

[coral hazel]

Hey guys, would anyone be able to recommend a source that discusses 9.1 legendary meta that includes the now functional obedience?

wasn't sure if obedience may bully out doomblade or something like that

[balmy condor]

the pins

[coral hazel]

the pin about legendaries is pre-obedience right

it's from march

[balmy condor]

the pin from yesterday

[coral hazel]

oh

sorry

i didn't zoom into the image, thought it was about conduits only

thanks

[balmy condor]

it's each soulbind with it's given best setup

[coral hazel]

perfect, exactly what i was looking for

[alpine latch]

You have lost the title 'Baroness Krymoore'

[low bramble]

is it worth swapping before we've got access to obedience?

[alpine latch]

LETS GET IT BOIS. #vampiregangformaybeapatchwe'llsee

[balmy condor]

it's about the same

[alpine latch]

I just made the swap. I need to grind renown anyway

[safe barn]

did the blizz hotfix dropped?

[fleet anchor]

Poor Bron living vicariously through his pins

😄

[safe barn]

yo koji

which guild you are raiding with this tier

and u whispyr

[balmy condor]

poor kevin, stomped under the foot of this obedience

[balmy condor]

I joined a world 2k guild for next tier

[fleet anchor]

Same guild I've been raiding with for 6 years 😛

[spice spire]

Gamer

[balmy condor]

they swapped from alliance to horde, lost their slg lockout, started late due to christmas, took 2 weeks off because their raid lead had an emergency, and had roster issues

and somehow still ended 2k

and they want to get more hardcore

[hollow river]

both specs using Nadjia now

sadge

[safe barn]

all 3 specs are using nadjia

the dream is real

[spice spire]

You’re gonna be a hardcore gamer this tier whisp

84 hour raid weeks

[oak sky]

I cant wait for the return of Count Agreon

[kind talon]

monkagiga

[balmy condor]

8 hour 2 night

[kind talon]

whispyr

shape up

[balmy condor]

but close enough

[kind talon]

u got this

top500 inc

[balmy condor]

nah but hopefully 1k this tier

[kind talon]

nah but

now they have u

so top 500

[oak sky]

Whispyr about to juice Pog

[balmy condor]

I'm aboutta run sims

between pulls

like a real gamer

[oak sky]

Lol

[kind talon]

raidin rn?

[balmy condor]

nah

we don't raid this week

[oak sky]

Sim each gear piece that could be a possible upgrade

[balmy condor]

that's just droptimizer

[oak sky]

Yea

[balmy condor]

do I look like some weak pussy shit simmer to you

[kind talon]

oh

whispyr

thats why

[oak sky]

No

[kind talon]

because there are only like

[balmy condor]

[kind talon]

2k guilds

lo

that finished ce

[balmy condor]

yes

[kind talon]

i didnt realizze

[balmy condor]

world 2k sounds a lot better than "barely CE"

[teal bloom]

Whispyr is gamer

[oak sky]

Are we the perfect optimized horde race whispyr

[kind talon]

true

it really does

[balmy condor]

no

[teal bloom]

I joined a 8/10M guild WidePeepoHappy

[kind talon]

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor why am I bad at sub and outlaw?

[safe barn]

[oak sky]

Are we the poggers cool looking horde race

[safe barn]

barely CE

but again, its the first time of the guild going for CEC

the guild was created in prepatch sl

[spice spire]

Grats papi

[spice spire]

You’re not bad, just misunderstood

[gusty mirage]

Am I just a OTP?

[odd hazel]

because out law is bad

[gusty mirage]

[fleet anchor]

The high APM is just overloading your brain is all

[balmy condor]

yes

[gusty mirage]

Confirmed I’m too old to play other specs

[modest glen]

Is the ‘swap covenant without penalty’ change in-game already?

[safe barn]

i dont know what guild that is 😛

[slender urchin]

Hi guys. My guild is like ~300 pulls into M Denathrius. Our best attempts are around 7%. We are looking to go in tonight and I’m not sure if I should play sin or sub. Sub is simming higher by about 300 dps~ (3-5%). I’m very comfortable with both specs but all my pulls are as sin. Is Sin bugged? Should I go in tonight as Sub?

I heard there was a deadly poison bug

[safe barn]

Sub is simming higher in your sims or are you saying that because of the discord sims?

[slender urchin]

For me, personally

[kind talon]

sin is much stronger on denathrius

for prog

[slender urchin]

Sin is around 6650~ sub is 6950~

[fleet anchor]

I raid with Occasional Excellence, usually in the US 60-110 range depending on how the chips fall. Raid 2 night schedule.

[crisp steppe]

both will be fine. you should probably just play what you're comfortable with

[kind talon]

but ya

whichever ur comfortable with

[safe barn]

Tbh if you are this far in deny with sin i dont know why would you change it

[crisp steppe]

yeah

sin owns on denathrius

[kind talon]

not to mention

u have zold

for p3 dam

[slender urchin]

I was under the impression there was some kind of bug affecting Sin and with damage being our main detriment I wanted to bring whatever will pump the most

[crisp steppe]

their guild might not even get the boss to 37.5% in time so

[fleet anchor]

I don't really think the Sub buffs in 9.1 were substantial enough to change just for one week

[crisp steppe]

probably dont play zold then

[fleet anchor]

Assassination is honestly one of the best--if not the best--spec in the game for Sire

[crisp steppe]

yeah big boss dmg, also does great on both named adds

[fleet anchor]

Don't be deterred by P1 damage

P1 damage doesn't matter at all

[kind talon]

just play obedience Kappa

[fleet anchor]

I'm literally bottom DPS on P1 Sire every week

And still top overall damage at the end of the fight most weeks

[safe barn]

koji if im with 2 target bosses in raid

and running flag

[fleet anchor]

Assassination is a monster in both P2 and P3

[crisp steppe]

no havoc in raid?

[slender urchin]

I’m not, was mostly worried about bugs. I read DP wasn’t applying on many skills and around ~150 dps loss

[safe barn]

do i apply rupture in both targets inside flag?

[fleet anchor]

Havoc are the opposite. They blast in P1, fall behind everywhere else

[crisp steppe]

yeah I mean

[fleet anchor]

P1 doesn't matter worth shit so who cares 😛

[crisp steppe]

you topping overall damage at the end of the fight

havoc farms so much p1 its chilling

rest of the fight on overall

[kind talon]

thats been a thing

but only recently implemented in sims

which is why its lower than sub for u i guess?

still stronger on sire

[fleet anchor]

Shadow Priest and Assassination usually dominate P3

[kind talon]

yep

[crisp steppe]

yeah excellent specs

also

[fleet anchor]

P2 is actually just Assassination pwnage

I have never had anyone beat me at P2

[kind talon]

pwnage

[crisp steppe]

if you play sub you probably want to play with staccato in case ur doing that

[slender urchin]

I will probably give Sub a few shots when we are warming up but sounds like I’ll stay Sin

[kind talon]

luv u koji

[crisp steppe]

3min cd cooldown is rough for last phase

like worst possible timing

[kind talon]

just stay sin

[safe barn]

that brings back memories

[kind talon]

we just said stay sin

[crisp steppe]

yeah

[kind talon]

but u can play sub if u want

[crisp steppe]

just pointing it out

[fleet anchor]

P2, I think this classifies as pwnage 😄

[kind talon]

yes

[crisp steppe]

does the ROGUE stream

[kind talon]

^sub will never do this