assassination

[sly ferry]

Hey guys after playing DK and monk for the past years I decided to leave them behind and start playing something completely new. As towards getting into the spec based on the guides out there would you recommend wowhead, ravneholdt or IV ?

[balmy condor]

all fine

[scenic meteor]

wowhead has good beginner guides but there are great experts here

[balmy condor]

they have the same content

just displayed differently

[indigo mulch]

Man sub is popping 😮

[fallen arch]

Stahp

[dawn ivy]

@balmy condor any chance you woke up in a cold sweat realising you messed up the sims?

[indigo mulch]

Maybe we can finally give sub a serious try in raiding and not just for 2 weeks :X

[fallen arch]

Don’t wanna hear it

[indigo mulch]

lol

[dense narwhal]

Should I be ashamed that I'm wayyy better with sin compared to outlaw in m+?

[scenic meteor]

be proud

[fallen arch]

Same, that’s why we hang out here

[indigo mulch]

Its 250 dps behind sin, but even when sin has been behind sub its still been played in raids. :X @fallen arch

[dense narwhal]

Niceeeee

[balmy condor]

I have tickets to work through, but nothing to make kyrian bad

[dawn ivy]

NOOOOOO

[scenic meteor]

is kyrian sub not ahead of sin?

[indigo mulch]

I'm pretty sure all the cov are ahead of sin no?

[fallen arch]

I’m gonna commit suicide if I have to play kyrian sub

Or you know, roll a mage

[oak sky]

dude im just finishing necro theres no way i swap sub and level kyrian too

[fallen arch]

Arcane seems fun

Also Kyrian FUCK

[limber lion]

I mean

[indigo mulch]

Why tho? 😮 Like i said, even when sub has been ahead on ST assassination still have been the go-to spec. I'm not sure 250 dps will change that.

[limber lion]

Why are you stuck up on playing the best spec in single target?

[dawn ivy]

i feel like one of us rogues prayed to a god for rogue to be good, and we got a monkey paw agreement

[limber lion]

What does it matter if a covenant does 30 dps more

What does it matter that a spec does 200 dps more

In Single Target

[fallen arch]

Just kidding dude

[limber lion]

Not talking to you

[fallen arch]

I’ll be playing sin all 9.1

[dense narwhal]

Do we hate the deathspike nerf?

[oak sky]

sin is the move

[gusty mirage]

Everyone hates the deathspike nerf

[limber lion]

Eh, we're not Outlaw so we don't care either way.

[scenic meteor]

i dont care

[limber lion]

It was pretty dank, would have enjoyed playing around with it for sure.

[scenic meteor]

i like zoldycks

[indigo mulch]

I'm actually sad that dashing is still not better than doomie 😦

I wish they would just nudge it a bit more.

[fallen arch]

Zoldyck is bae, but Deathspike looks wicked too. Hope it’s gonna be better than it seems

[dense narwhal]

So I have zoldyck legs. Should I remake in another piece or finally make dashing or MA?

[scenic meteor]

legs are fine

[oak sky]

legs are good

[dense narwhal]

Oops

[fallen arch]

Nope, perfect

[dense narwhal]

I meant my doom hands

[scenic meteor]

im recrafting my doom hands to cloak

[fallen arch]

cloak

[scenic meteor]

eventually

[fallen arch]

Once you get a domination set of gloves

[dense narwhal]

Yeah

[scenic meteor]

i got these boys waiting in my bags 🙂

[fallen arch]

Good boy

[dense narwhal]

I guess I'll just HODL my soul ash

[indigo mulch]

Already have the legs 😦

[scenic meteor]

hold to the moon

[oak sky]

having soul ash to hold

[limber lion]

Imagine not having 12k+ soul ash stored up

[scenic meteor]

im sitting on 1k 🙂

[oak sky]

i have 200 🙂

[scenic meteor]

absolutely not doing any untill 9.1

[oak sky]

yeah same

well

maybe this week

[scenic meteor]

yeah prob will lol

[dense narwhal]

Boys I need valor

[scenic meteor]

why?

[balmy condor]

you need valor for the last week of a patch?

[hollow river]

Lol

[dense narwhal]

Lmao

Savageeee

[hollow river]

I need to SPEND my valor

Got like 7k

Gonna waste away if I don’t spend it

[dense narwhal]

My main was ele this patch, but I've mained sin since wrath

[indigo mulch]

I'm thinking about playing ele for m+ atleast.

[hollow river]

I was considering the same

[dense narwhal]

Switching back to bae

[halcyon zealot]

atleast you’ll get some silver coins in the mail for it 🙂

[dense narwhal]

Ele is great, not gonna lie

[hollow river]

Trollwswasswsaass

[dense narwhal]

But sin is home 😍

[dark crag]

Buy things for valor on last day and hope you can sell them back after patch is live

[minor bronze]

Is Sin going venthyr for 9.1? thinking about coming back to rogue after going lock to help out my guild this tier

[limber lion]

Most of us are going Necrolord. If you want to play Sub as well, you'd go Venthyr.

Venthyr is just slightly ahead in single target, but I'd argue that it's not worth the loss in cleave/aoe/funnel/prio situations.

If you wanna go ham in single target, you should go ham with Sub.

[shy dust]

Buy mats

Sell the mats

Profit

[peak bobcat]

Are there many fights where subs inability to 2-3 target cleave will make sin just much better overall ?

[dense narwhal]

I need some heirmir advice for m+

[shy dust]

Depends on the fight

Some people would say nine

[dense narwhal]

sudden fractures? or katar as well

[shy dust]

And that would be wrong

Nine is basically a ST fight

Assa could be better for the eye though

[gusty mirage]

Sudden fractures

[shy dust]

Since it’s 2t cleave for a good amount of the fight

[dense narwhal]

ty

[modern heart]

im finally brought into mythic on my rogue, already got asked to swap back on inerva for amz ..

[lost mist]

1- Tarrague? No.
2- Eye of the jailer valky+little eyes? Yes.
3- The nine? absolutely YES (2 target cleave 1st phase of the fight), then full ST (where sin IS STILL GOOD, but an entire phase where subt is not good...)
4- Ner'zhul? some insignificant cleave there but idk how sbs interact with those little orbs. Maybe yes, maybe not.
5- Soulrender? a lot of cleave add spawn which have a nice amount HP to multidot. Yes.
6- Painsmith? ST with some aoe, think subt is better here so. No.
7- Guardian full st, No.
8- Roh-kalo? Lot of ST, then some add spawn and pretty short cleave (tank's add) maybe yes, maybe no.
9-Kel'thuzad? aoeaoeaoe BUT prio ST on .5 phases
10- sylv idk haha

that's MY opinion

[azure bronze]

You have to consider that once you are not able to attack the boss sub is at a disadvantage where sin is not

[limber lion]

Amz on Inerva instead of a sin rogue

[alpine latch]

Fuck, I hope Sub isn't THE raid spec for 9.1. I fucking hate Sub

[limber lion]

Sin is looking just fine

No worries.

[azure bronze]

I mean considering how close they are in dps

Sin probably is better for progress

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I'm not CE so I'll be fine either way. I am just a very strong optimizer so if it's a noticeable difference, I'll go Sub and just be angry

[azure bronze]

Unless Sub has giga gains with the sylv daggers + deeper daggers somehow

[limber lion]

You also have to realize

That in order to hit those sub numbers, you need to play it optimally as well.

[lost mist]

it won't, people is looking for subt for pure ST dmg, which is very rare

[limber lion]

You might see better success with sin if it's a familiar spec

Compared to Sub

Even if Sub sims 200-300 dps higher

[alpine latch]

Yeah, I can get there with Sub, though.

My goal is to eventually get into a CE guild. Using 9.1 to build up my parses

[lost mist]

why people is keeping necro over venthyr for progress? the same reason that why people will keep playing sin over subt.

[alpine latch]

Since I haven't played a rogue since Legion

[strong tide]

do you want to maintain crimson tempest in st?

[kindred rapids]

might be worth switching to sub for guardian

mostly expecting to play sin for most prog though

[lost mist]

so u can try venthyr to do that

bc necro sub pog

[kindred rapids]

yeah, should be easy enough to switch venthyr for guardian prog, then switch back

since it will probably take us at least 2 weeks anyways

[bleak sky]

yes

outside of shiv

[kindred rapids]

and it's not like venthyr sin is bad

[lost mist]

if u are looking to swap in between progress for guardian, then u should swap to kyrian haha is better for subt in ST (right now, later we don't know), but u can still play venthyr and keep swapping between subt/sin for ST-aoe/Cleave respectively

[indigo mulch]

Even when sub has been better single target, assassination was still the spec of choice for progression in mythic.

[lost mist]

im going necro sin

[limber lion]

Yep.

[indigo mulch]

I dunno if thats going to change now but i highly doubt it.

[limber lion]

As long as it's tuned well, it's usually the common choice for mythic progression.

[lost mist]

idk how blizz can make subt better on cleave

[tight ginkgo]

secret technique redesign to be like that monk clone thing

ez

[lost mist]

SecTech baseline no CD but less dmg 😮

[thorny pond]

3 subt finishers baseline oof (Rupt/SND maintance buffs)

[lost mist]

worst than evi on pure ST but overall better on cleave sec tech 😮

[fallen arch]

Jpc is testing stuff out atm on stream

[lost mist]

lol

[indigo mulch]

The only issue i do see is that the last couple of bosses is almost pure ST. When people build comps for world first they only look at like the three last bosses when they build comps.

[fallen arch]

Sub vs Sin on PTR

[indigo mulch]

And as we all know, WF raiding has a tendancy to trickle down on us mere mortals.

[lost mist]

Sub should have garrote, cttc, vendetta

[south hollow]

Sub might sim higher

but you need high uptime and no movement

[lost mist]

and their name changed to subsination

in order to cleave

[indigo mulch]

I think this is pretty impressive.

[fallen arch]

Pog

Thought my 0.6 was close

[indigo mulch]

I'm actually impressed.

That run didnt seam like a waste of time anymore.

[sacred isle]

That should be an achievement tbhw

[bleak sky]

jpc just asking whispyr sin stuff

guess whispyr truly is a god

[sacred isle]

Beeing a high ranking player doesn’t mean you know everything. Ofc they want input/discussion with the theorycraftibg community

[frigid kestrel]

I win lol

[hollow escarp]

somebody asked whispyr if sin will outscale sub by the end of the patch

[frigid kestrel]

This

[frigid kestrel]

I did not see that

[civic trellis]

dont ever put garrote/rupture on mouseover

worst decision of my life

i think i refreshed like 4-5 full garrote 3-4 full rupture with the mouseover shit

[peak bobcat]

how much does PI buff sin during CDs?

[limber lion]

You can sim it yourself in advanced sim

Just paste your profile and paste this below it:
external_buffs.power_infusion=5/125/245

[peak bobcat]

thank you

[slow roost]

Which convenant will be beat for sin in pvp? Venthyr?

Will be best*

[vestal wren]

#pvp

[slow roost]

Sorry, my bad

[soft shale]

for pvp you want to be venthyr or necro yes necro is better sustained damage venthyr for sub flex

[mental trout]

any one know if the gear from season 1 pvp will be affected by the change coming in 9.1? where pvp gear will be -7ilvl in pve content or do you think only the 9.1 season 2 pvp gear will have that change of into effect?

[halcyon zealot]

#pvp

pve andy’s in this channel

[sacred isle]

Well that is a pve question

[mental trout]

yea, well its a pve question to. Im hoping my pvp gear from season 1 wont go down for when i start the raid

no read andyssss

[sacred isle]

As I’ve interpret it it’s only the new gear. But can’t point to a post or reference.

[mental trout]

man thats gonna screw me if the old gear gets hit with that! we are planning on going right into Heroic raid but im using my rogue who really only has pvp gear =/

[bleak sky]

watching JPC: jesus fuck sub's damage is GOOD

[balmy condor]

I agree, that's why it sims higher

:)

[dawn ivy]

lmao

[thorny pond]

Does more damage, sims higher. Seems sketch

[devout temple]

We're all going sub?

[limber lion]

No.

[civic trellis]

Any tip of what i can improve here? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Tv2wrXNAg1cbnm7M#fight=19&type=damage-done&translate=true&source=14

[kindred rapids]

Guys I'm panicking

I just switched necro

[civic trellis]

I really appreciate any single tip 😄

or anything i did wrong

[winged basin]

THIS IS A MOOD LOL, doing the quest rn coming from venth and am riddled with anxiety

[kindred rapids]

haha

just let me play both already

[trim dirge]

necro still amazing for sin

[limber lion]

Good.

[devout temple]

Necro = Chad

[indigo mulch]

I mean :c sub in m+ looks so fun 😦

[trim dirge]

not wrong

[spare flame]

Is everyone swapping Necro. Someone just give it to me straight, Ill likely just play Assa with a snif of Outlaw if its exceptional on progression

[thorny pond]

1. Bleed uptimes could be better. Aim for always up on garrote and rupture, refresh during pandemic
2. Slam Shiv in CD. Don't hold. Be cognizant of it coming up soon to pool a lil bit but never hold it.
3. You were capped on energy a bit, wasted 76 which could've been spent.
4. Make sure you only use SBS in gemstone windows

[halcyon zealot]

it’s just the more versatile option for playing both specs and excells the second there’s more than 1 target. Venthyr still wins in PURE single target, but not by much

[brittle vessel]

which covenant/spec will be the best in 9.1 for raiding, i dont care about m+ or pvp

[loud light]

if only there were a single correct answer

[halcyon zealot]

ya it’s kinda funny because everyone always advocates for choice and being able to play what they want, but when that’s truly the case everyone panics and wants to be told X is the play over Y

interesting to me

[kindred rapids]

I can't handle all these meaningful choices

[brittle vessel]

idk, i think im still going to play sin but am just curious

[ornate raptor]

Its like what Whysp said in pins. All covenants are looking good

[meager kiln]

Best ST is looking kyrian sub isn't it? 😂

[limber lion]

Yes.

[loud light]

but then on 2 target that's not the right answer anymore

so

[ornate raptor]

Depends to be fair. If you have a team full of aoe people your st could still be better but thats my opinion

[cerulean nest]

my emotions are wild today about all this lmao

[indigo mulch]

I want to play sub for m+ but i want to play necro in raids 😦

So many problems 😦

[proven pike]

Assa is better than Outlaw for Raid?

[thorny pond]

Level another rogue\

[limber lion]

I'll definitely be simming prio damage comparisons when the ptr simc implementations hit the live servers.

Necro wins in prio damage on 2t as sin at least.

Even if it's a council-kind of fight where you don't actually do damage to a secondary target.

[ornate raptor]

100% agree with you. Like i didn’t swap to necro yet. Cause i just want to be able to see how it goed and feels. And ofcourse to do some sims

[limber lion]

There's no rush. Renown is easy to get up when necessary

[ornate raptor]

Exactly

[limber lion]

And most of us have everything maxed out anyways

(Except Kyrian)

[ornate raptor]

Yeah i only got 2 maxed out hehe

Nf and vent

[loud light]

need some kind of secret kyrian sin tech so there can be the one true covenant

[halcyon zealot]

god i can’t wait for the day i can(hopefully) return NF

[ornate raptor]

Any ways my 2th rogue is necro so i can just raid with that for now haha

[halcyon zealot]

2th

[thorny pond]

Think you're looking for the warrior discord mate

[hollow river]

Nope got that too (;

[limber lion]

Yuk.

Gonna take some giga gains to get me to swap to Kyrian

[loud light]

all hail bron

[lost mist]

2k dps gain ST, 5k gain on AOE or nothing.

[limber lion]

[halcyon zealot]

someone also needs to fund all the inky black potions required to play kyrian

[lost mist]

just buy sunglasses

irl

[azure bronze]

I believe they fixed the skybox for bastion so it isn't 'as bright' anymore compared to now

[indigo ginkgo]

well that damage is assuming you are on boss 100% so, dont think it will be viable

[echo geyser]

was kyrian actually good now after bron changes?

[balmy condor]

probably not on sin

[dense narwhal]

Whispyr's the goat

[balmy condor]

🐐

[brazen rampart]

Is there a good WA that shows bleeds on the boss frames?

[thorny pond]

plater

or do you mean like on the actual frame and not bar?

[rare ember]

Shadowed Unit Frames

[brazen rampart]

Frames on the right

Not the nameplates above their heads

[thorny pond]

If you have one now just change the conditions to be the boss bar

[brazen rampart]

Oh wait that's an option?

[thorny pond]

Yea make a copy of your weakaura that exists

then just change it to the boss frame

[brazen rampart]

Man I'm clueless with this stuff

Ty

Does that option make it attach to the frames automatically?

[thorny pond]

I believe so

On a conference call can check after

[brazen rampart]

Guess I'll play around with that tomorrow

[limber lion]

Haste/crit probably

[thorny pond]

Yes in 9.1

[limber lion]

But it's not available yet, wait for 9.1

[muted jewel]

sylvanas dagger waiting room buddies

[limber lion]

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-hello-friend-kitty-cat-hi-gif-16726289

[soft shale]

[lost mist]

now that i think, rogue specs/covenants seems to be balanced... blizz doing their work?? sub/sin venth-sub/outlaw kyrian-sin/outlaw necro lol

[muted jewel]

something's wrong with that paw mate

[lost mist]

let's see what happen on live

[muted jewel]

aye

sin is actually the spec with the highest floor on warcraftlogs now

[lost mist]

dot spec ❤️

[thorny pond]

usually is near that since it's a pretty straightforward spec

assuming we are balanced and.... "scale" =p

[muted jewel]

scale(tm)

everyone's talking about it

noone can predict anything

[balmy condor]

and everyone's an idiot

coincidence?

[grim jay]

did someone say [Scaling, cursed word of the community] ?

[balmy condor]

I think not

[limber lion]

Not 100% sure what that means, but I'm pretty sure SP takes the cake regardless.

[thorny pond]

Thanks for explaining the joke dad

[muted jewel]

just means that because i'm shit sin is the spec i'm least likely to fuck up

[gloomy knoll]

if you mention scaling in a non ironic manner chances are you may be an idiot call 1-800-amifuckingstupid now to find out

[thorny pond]

It's called "Shit Priest" for a reason

[muted jewel]

but if you suck, priest is worse

[thorny pond]

We still have people in here who think garrote is a stealth only ability

[muted jewel]

i came back to rogue after having it benched since tbc, i thought that up until last week

[balmy condor]

aight

please god

let's hope

they fix the dagger stuff

cause only one rogue applying

is super duper stupid

[stark heart]

Naaaaaaaah

[limber lion]

I'm like 100% sure they'll fix that

[thorny pond]

One rogue per guild, that's how we get our raid spot

[limber lion]

Because it has happened so many times now

[muted jewel]

only rogue in raid, i can live under the illusion of being good for an entire tier

[limber lion]

The stacking thing has to be fixed as well. Going from 3% damage to 25% when you equip a second dagger is kinda

well

dumb.

[brazen rampart]

Imagine having multiple rogues

[stark heart]

that's how Blizz establishes ranged/melee dps balance in raids

[muted jewel]

imagine being the raidleader deciding "nah this is too many moonkins, let's get a rogue"

[brazen rampart]

[muted jewel]

all the rogues just got done nutting all over classic content, they'll be back now that they're not literal gods in tbc classic

[dense narwhal]

I use Infexious gaming's bleed WA. It's even color-coded and notates when it's okay to refresh, whether your garrote is empowered, etc.

[limber lion]

Infexious' bleeds are not attached to the boss frames afaik

And he was specifically asking for that.

[balmy condor]

can never get rid of infexious, he always comes back

[soft shale]

some people never disappear like me

[limber lion]

[soft shale]

nah man im made of iron ran over 2 times 6 times stabbed

[limber lion]

The more content we get in the game, the more stuff he can make videos about and the more we get to deal with his shit.

[soft shale]

i will die of old age

time to make our own videos with hookers and blackjack

[limber lion]

[halcyon zealot]

it keeps you and whispyr in business Cev

[soft shale]

but not the good business

[balmy condor]

telling people to stop listening to infexious is not a business I want to do

[jaunty fable]

does anyone know anything about using the refined palate soulbind to increase your pot duration for a boss fight

[soft shale]

that was fixed

[jaunty fable]

back in may?

[soft shale]

no two weeks ago

[jaunty fable]

the logs that have people using them are still up

so those logs should be taken down

lol

[soft shale]

ahaha

well

[stark heart]

CN is over, who gives a shit

[cobalt pelican]

goodluck with that one bud

[soft shale]

gl

[limber lion]

The logs will not be taken down

And there is no partition.

Unlucky.

[soft shale]

we will just point at them

[jaunty fable]

?

[limber lion]

Should have abused it when it was relevant.

[soft shale]

and swear in german

[jaunty fable]

lol

i mean im just saying

xD

[brazen rampart]

Does it not count if its not german?

[cobalt pelican]

upstanding honest non-abusive ethical rogues get a ravenholdt sticker of approval, though

so great work

[devout temple]

did i miss drama

[brazen rampart]

Gonna put that on my future guild applications

[jaunty fable]

lol wha

seems like you guys are more salty about it than i am

xD

[halcyon zealot]

that’s going on my resumé

[jaunty fable]

im just curious about it

[limber lion]

Nah, you're just a month or so late.

That's all :p

[jaunty fable]

obviously

as to why i was askingxD. was looking over logs a bit

[limber lion]

Yeah.

[oak sky]

we talking theotar cheese

[limber lion]

If you got a rank 1 log in may

It's probably safe for eternity.

[devout temple]

power infusion

[jaunty fable]

cns over yet they're still fixing bugs like that

lol

[thorny pond]

I couldn't get a rank 1 on a world first kill

[jaunty fable]

okeh

[limber lion]

I mean

It would have carried over to 9.1

They didn't fix it for CN specifically.

[balmy condor]

leave bugs in

[jaunty fable]

yea, but someone said cns over who cares

[balmy condor]

no fixing bugs

[jaunty fable]

lol

[balmy condor]

[stark heart]

I did

[jaunty fable]

im just saying why fix it then right

[stark heart]

because you wanted logs to be taken down

who cares about CN logs mate

[brazen rampart]

Don't nerf sylv dagger

[stark heart]

it's over

[brazen rampart]

[limber lion]

But... I just explained it.

It wasn't just a bug that happened in CN.

[stark heart]

fixing bug is Blizz job

[jaunty fable]

i didnt say i wanted that, ethically they shoudl be taken down though

?

[stark heart]

taking logs down is not Blizz job

[limber lion]

Why?

[jaunty fable]

Im being sarcasticxD

because its an exploit?

[limber lion]

Okay, sleepy time.

[stark heart]

how do I sleep in this heat

[brazen rampart]

[stark heart]

teach me

[jaunty fable]

really is full of salty people in here huh

[stark heart]

I think it's 30 in my apt

[limber lion]

I didn't sleep last night at all because it was 29 degrees in my room

[stark heart]

yeah, blame others, this is the way

[limber lion]

I'm hoping that I'll just get knocked out from sleep deprivation

[balmy condor]

no idea what you're even arguing at this point, we're just trying to understand honestly

[brazen rampart]

Just power through summer without sleep

[stark heart]

I kinda have to get up in 6 hours

[limber lion]

Ouch.

[stark heart]

work work

office has like 22 C inside

no complaints

[jaunty fable]

started with asking about the exploit, that was the pointxD

[stark heart]

today we got cakes from AWS but I didn't get even a slice

[brazen rampart]

AWS?

[stark heart]

amazon web service

or something like that

[brazen rampart]

No cake

[solid mica]

i just downloaded a WA to track some things, what is toxic blade?

[balmy condor]

Shiv

[mint narwhal]

hey there , anyone has a good opener for Necro sin rogue . trying to figure out when to Sbs and the normal opener .

[solid mica]

that's what i thought, ty

[balmy condor]

Sbs first gcd, then during gemstone

[oak sky]

31 renown lets go

[mint narwhal]

alright .

and whats the opener , i mean . stealth , garote , SnD , sbs , mut x2 , rupture , mutx2 + vendetta , Evenom shiv , vanish then what?

im kinda confused here lol

[balmy condor]

There’s helpful guides for that sort of basic info

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[balmy condor]

Pick your favorite

[brazen rampart]

Wait you're supposed to use sbs only during gemstone in st unless you're gonna overcap?

[mint narwhal]

i lookled into it . but theres not opener for necro sin

these guide only talk about Ventyr

[oak sky]

for necro you just replace the first mut with sbs

[misty holly]

I set up a WA to track gemstones so I could SBS at the right time and my dps was much worse after that. I think I just can't pay attention to so many little things like that, it ends up hurting the bigger things and causes worse performance

[humble portal]

Hey guys, pretty new to WoW only been playing Outlaw. I want to switch to Assassination though, I saw 9.1 is gonna be big for them but looking through the patch notes I don’t see any huge changes for them? What exactly is making them better?

[halcyon zealot]

yeah coming from venth which is more or less a push and forget, i just sat and hit a target dummy for honestly close to an hour getting the feel for tracking sbs charges and gemstone windows without losing uptime on other buffs

just takes practice and muscle memory like anything else

[balmy condor]

They’re good right now, and received no changes, which means they’re good in 9.1

[vital tapir]

51% aura buff making them good?

[misty holly]

Can't wait for 9.1 and that 51% buff, we are going to be so op.

[vital tapir]

51% aura buff's uhh...already there?

[halcyon zealot]

lol the day that came out and people saw “51% aura buff” in notes and thought we actually got a 51% buff for a few hours was hilarious

[vital tapir]

yep.

[oak sky]

wheres the necro training dummy

[halcyon zealot]

upstairs

by the transport portals there’s another portal off to the left; think it’s called the overlook or something

[oak sky]

yeah gotcha

[tired jasper]

"Only one rogue is allowed to tag any given enemy. If you have two rogues, the first one to apply the debuff tags it, giving all procs to that person. The other rogue will not apply the debuff, nor get any damage" Do i understand this right so maybe only one rogue per raid gonna be viable if they dont fix it ?

[misty holly]

what debuff? nm I checked the pins

[balmy condor]

Correct

[misty holly]

Is that effect strong enough that heroic daggers will be better than +14 vault weapons?

[drifting cloud]

yes

[vital tapir]

think so

the sims currently don't include it

so there's that

[rancid pier]

Would someone be able to look at my logs and tell me how I can improve my rotation? I know i fudged a little before me 2nd Vendetta by pooling to 100% energy. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XYFrLDQp8PqMJ7f4/#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=1

[spice spire]

Don’t open with garrote on ST.

I assume you have master assassin?

Also where’s slice and dice? Was it already going before then?

[gusty mirage]

is this a target dummy? @rancid pier

[spice spire]

Also six minutes APM seem low what talents are you running?

[rancid pier]

im thinking i didn't capture everything. I opened with mutilate then slice n dice,. Yes it was a target dummy

[gusty mirage]

target dummy logs are always a bit wonky

Are you playing Emeni or Heimir?

[rancid pier]

is there a better target to be testing against?

[gusty mirage]

unfortunately, besides an actual boss not really

[rancid pier]

i just realized im still using outlaw conduits

[gusty mirage]

testing dummies are our best bet, so we're kinda stuck with them

You have very little CPs wasted

the seal fate ones are whatever, and 2 from shiv is more than fine

esp in 6min 35s

so it seems like you have a good understanding of the fundamentals

[rancid pier]

I'm trying to broaden my horizons. I usually outlaw absolutely everything because I find it way easier and I like the extra range.

[gusty mirage]

your uptime on bleeds are great

[rancid pier]

My goal is to swap to assassination fo rpure st

[gusty mirage]

99.7% on garrote, 99.19% on rupture

the dif in damage is most likely just the conduits tbh

I assume you're playing heimir for assassination?

[rancid pier]

i will be yes

[gusty mirage]

You seem to have a good grasp of everything man

Only thing to keep in mind is SBS from stealth as your opener, and make sure you optimize your SBS use. The priority is: SBS whatever doesn't already have the bleed, make sure you don't cap charges, and dump whatever available charges you have during gemstones

[dense narwhal]

Shiv > CT?

in ST

if both are up, and the CT dot is off

[rancid pier]

I have 2 questions. Do you every hold shiv for vendetta? and do you always build to 4+ cps after vendetta before vanishing?

[gusty mirage]

You CT outside of shiv windows

in ST

[rancid pier]

I had no idea you were suppose to sbs out of stealth

[gusty mirage]

I wouldn't hold shiv unless Vendetta is about to come off cooldown soon (I'm not entirely sure on what the cut off is, but I'll only hold it if its like less than 8s until vendetta is off CD)

[dense narwhal]

so if they're both off cooldown, shiv, as soon as shiv debuff drops, then you can apply ct?

[gusty mirage]

Yeah that came a while after 9.0.5 as part of the gemstones/sbs optimizations our TCs did 🙂

[gusty mirage]

yeah always send shiv on CD

[misty holly]

Do you only SBS out of stealth with master assassin?

[gusty mirage]

Shiv is a priority

[gusty mirage]

Kinda, if you're specced into subterfuge (which should never be for ST) you'd want to spread the empowered garrotes

[rancid pier]

Talent or lewgendary?

[gusty mirage]

talent

assassination doesn't play with the legendary outside of limited legendary options in M+ or torghast

[rancid pier]

thanks for the help oxi appreciate it

[gusty mirage]

no prob

Assassination is typically very forgiving the biggest issue is usually CD usage, wasted CPs and bleed uptimes

and yours look like they're on point

[lime edge]

how much better is outlaw in m+?

[gusty mirage]

right now or in 9.1?

assassination can compete okay in damage, but outlaw is better

[lime edge]

both?

[gusty mirage]

as sad as that makes me lol

[lime edge]

but how much better

if outlaw is a 10/10

what is sin

[gusty mirage]

6 to 7/10

[lime edge]

whats sub

4/10

[gusty mirage]

closer to 8 if you're just really good at it

Sub now is like a 5 or 6/10, in 9.1 9/10 easily

[fervent beacon]

Sin is great on tyrannical week tho of you have we monk and fire mage

[lime edge]

9/10?

wtf

[fervent beacon]

They can melt trash while you melt bosses

[gusty mirage]

yep

[pure bloom]

Sub looks very good with 9.1

[gusty mirage]

Sub got some GREAT buffs in 9.1

[strange python]

and assa ?

[pure bloom]

better tzhen assa/Outlaw :/

[gusty mirage]

Outlaw will still beat sub for higher keys because of how useful gouge is

but the damage is neck and neck

[pure bloom]

yeah we will see

they should just buff necro leggy again ;D

[gusty mirage]

They should just give all 3 rogue specs gouge :3

assassins gouge and so do ninjas

[strange python]

Can i compet on assa on high keys ? (23+) in 9.1

[gusty mirage]

well @warped temple knocks out 23-25s now as assassination

so you should still be able to

[strange python]

Sub is looking that good in 9.1?! I saw the buffs but was reluctant it'd be competitive in m+ and raiding...figured assa and outlaw would still be the play. Gosh I hope sub is viable...love the spec.

[soft shale]

seli also did high keys

as assa

[gusty mirage]

Yes, Sub is THAT good

[strange python]

#excite

[gusty mirage]

that it stays that way

and blizz doesn't decide to nerf it for no reason again

because I will sue Ion if they do

idc

[lime edge]

i dont play sub

[gusty mirage]

it's literally been an entire expac and one patch where sub's either been bad or meh

[lime edge]

nerf sub

[gusty mirage]

ever since the stupid ass zul nerf

[thin path]

necro is still not the play for sub? cause l love it on sin but wanted to snoop into sub playstyle a little 👀

[gloomy knoll]

necro sub bad

yes

you can still play it

just won't be that great

[thin path]

yeeeeeea

l wanna be optimal tho xd

[sand heath]

Check pins, as the answer is no and necro for sub, but I don’t like play style of sub, and generally and hopeful assa and ol in situations is best

[gloomy knoll]

~150 dps worse st than necro sin ST

[thin path]

not like l'd swap anyways, sin ftw

[gloomy knoll]

if you necro sub

not the end of the world if you just wanna play around with it a bit

but yea i feel you

[thin path]

l know the pins ;p

[gloomy knoll]

sucks that every spec wants a diff covenant lol

meaningful choice my ass

[gusty mirage]

go fae

[gloomy knoll]

xD

[gusty mirage]

then you can be sad as all 3 specs

[gloomy knoll]

LOL

[sand heath]

The cov difference unless you play in top 5% guides, is irrelevant anyway

[thin path]

yea assfull choice

[sand heath]

Guilds

[gloomy knoll]

what even is top 5%

[soft shale]

well kyrian is good for sub and outlaw if you want to raid and do keys or necro assa/outlaw is still really good

[gloomy knoll]

yep that's my plan

kyrian sub in raid kyrian pirate in keys

[strange python]

Top 5% of progression guilds? That number is probably quite small.

[soft shale]

i will stay venth because i will play sub on raid and m+ then assa on cleave

[sand heath]

Sorry missed a decimal 0.5%

[gloomy knoll]

i'm just curious what the cut off is actually

like what is HoF for example

[soft shale]

there are like 3 or 4 million guilds and most do not raid or are dead

[gloomy knoll]

is that .1% 1% etc?

[thin path]

yea but you forget that pleb community judges you as if they all were top5%

[soft shale]

now if you go by hof

that seems interesting

well some players in shit guilds will just never parse

[gloomy knoll]

fun is relative my dear stabb

[soft shale]

because their bosses are 2 min longer

[gloomy knoll]

we define what fun is for ourselves

if you don't like being suboptimal you do you

i know some people who play awful talents

like gloomblade

because they just vibe with it

and that's ok

[thin path]

tbh l dont find it fun doing less dmg just cause l went with the Flair l prefer

[gloomy knoll]

i wouldn't do that but

not gonna knock any1 who does

[sand heath]

I want necro, as I wanted at the beginning, and went Kyrian, then fea, for no reason … puke 🤮 now I have a dot to play with …

[strange python]

There are 2,014 10/10M Castle Netharia guilds. 5% is approximately the Top 100 guilds. So, that's appropriate @sand heath.

[thin path]

l wanted necro, l went necro, l was lucky it got buffed or l would have swapped cause l'd like to keep going to raids lol >>

[reef axle]

Still feel the sin necro is the go to, the sub kyrian raw st seems alittle Baitish 🤔

[sand heath]

Good estimate, thanks for the validation

[strange python]

Solid work indeed ^^

[gusty mirage]

r/theydidthemath

[strange python]

Hardest part was paging through 100+ pages of Raider IO guilds. 😉

[soft shale]

you know you can just go to the last that killed sire

what i find weird is how big chinese etc guilds are getting

they are pumping ranks

[sand heath]

Pumping = big D’s right!

[strange python]

Now you tell me.

[soft shale]

dont worry also if you want to have fun there is a twitter account named overtime police

on first mythic weeks its hilarious

[strange python]

Haha, going to follow now, thanks!

[civic trellis]

Thanksss

[hollow river]

fae hidden op 9.1.5 buff haven't u heard?

[soft shale]

fae is not that bad for m+ but abysmal for raids

[sand heath]

But you can spirit jump that has to be a benefit right!

[silent fossil]

fae is super viable. look how hard i was clapping on first sire kill as outlaw when i was still hardcore jaded and didn't care about my performance much. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NmqbfLGHKMA6r1hd#fight=8&type=damage-done

actually carried by sepsis 2.7% dmg

[prime atlas]

is 9.1 rogue looking useful?

[shy dust]

yes

[misty holly]

still the best class in the game.

[soft shale]

not really but still useful

its leather so can trade gear to druids and monks

[drifting cloud]

[toxic ivy]

monks don't scale they're gone

[dense narwhal]

guiz

I think I'm back on the Elemental bandwagon. Until we meet again... when I change my mind and come back to sin tomorrow.

[velvet haven]

my poor monk PepeHands

[solid mica]

can we sbs remornia in p1?

like on pull?

[steep obsidian]

i don't think so but it wouldnt matter much anyway

most of the time ppeople have to stop dps in p1 nowadays at least if you are talking about mythic

[solid mica]

ya

[edgy cosmos]

anyone got a WA for crimson tempest tracking and ONLY CT not anything else

[dusky vault]

She's untargetable

[steep obsidian]

I'm sure wago.io will have a few

[edgy cosmos]

its all kits

i dont want a full kit

[dusky vault]

Grab one for rupture and change it to CT, easy

[steep obsidian]

you can just take the bit out that you want

or that

[edgy cosmos]

its annoying to do but i guess

[fallow otter]

Lol

[fallow otter]

It's the best way, just duplicate one that you have then you have same style size and everything, just update position and the skill

[velvet haven]

is there a bis list for gear prior to 9.1 anywhere? trying to find one for target farming

[fallow otter]

Phial + any other gear

[velvet haven]

xd

that trinket is indeed pre nuts

[fallow otter]

Do you mean target by doing mplus?

[velvet haven]

nah, just a general listing, raid + m+ is fine

[fallow otter]

Raid is nearly over

[velvet haven]

As I said, I dont care either way, I was simply asking if a said list existed, if it doesn't that's cool, if theres one for raid and m+ cool, if only m+ cool

just looking for some point of reference without going and simming every gear piece is all friend

[fallow otter]

The idea of a bis list is flawed

[dusky vault]

Sim using droptimiser on raid bots. Afaik whispyer removed the bis list because it was creating more confusion

[fallow otter]

That's the problem

[velvet haven]

aah fair @dusky vault ty

[dusky vault]

Also I wouldn't bother, everything you have will be replaced within a couple of weeks

[velvet haven]

Just power farming all week to get best gear I can for week 1, as I am hard pivoting off monk as they kind of got killed

[fallow otter]

That's why I asked what content because I think the better approach is to just do content like clear raid raid etc see what drops

[dusky vault]

Tbh you won't get anywhere near bis so why bother. Better to hard farm m+ week of mythic raid next tier

[fallow otter]

Then juggle with droptimizer or sims

[velvet haven]

okay it was a flawed question then, ty for ur time.

[fallow otter]

Wait what

[dusky vault]

Bis list for this tier is going to be 233 gear off sire and slg then phial plus whatever other combo sims the best which you can do at 220 with droptimiser

[velvet haven]

Yeah, I kinda asked the problem being too BC brained

with farming on there towards bis pre raid stuff

just flawed question is all

[fallow otter]

Yeh it's not like that anymore, in bc it's bang on get x y z

So what makes you think monk is bad @velvet haven

[velvet haven]

They aren't scaling as well with gear, and ever since the bug fixs they're just not the same

[fallow otter]

Well

I disagree

But ok

[dusky vault]

Scaling

[fallow otter]

https://www.peakofserenity.com/2021/01/03/windwalker-scaling-the-sky-thats-always-falling/

[balmy condor]

how will I recover

from the 1% dps

I can't scale man

fuck

that must be why I'm blue parsing

[ebon patio]

Stahp 😂

[plush garnet]

I know its the million dollar question, but what y'all running necro or venth, I can't decide 😭

[balmy condor]

I'm running venth cause I'm also playing sub

[plush garnet]

So venth seems to be the sweet spot for sin/sub?

[peak bobcat]

^ I like the prio damage venthyr comes with

[fathom swift]

I leveled both to be safe, but from the look of the last few bosses I wouldn't be surprised if venthyr ended up slightly better for the raid

[thorny pond]

Whyspyr has a good pin on the matter

[balmy condor]

well

it's a halfass pin

wouldn't call it GOOD

but it's there

[thorny pond]

Take the compliment

[plush garnet]

I did see that, but fuck I keep hearing different answers, I got rogues in my guild saying their going necro because of the new legendary and shit

[thorny pond]

New legendary is not a good reason

[plush garnet]

I'm just coming back so I'm just trying to figure out whats going to be popping

[thorny pond]

It’s pretty much dead

Necro or venth are safe picks if you are in this channel

[plush garnet]

I plan on playing sin or sub basically, and it seems like venth is the play

[thorny pond]

99/100 people in here will not lose their raid spot because of their covenant. The 1 will be because of a jackass raid lead

[plush garnet]

Oh 100%

I know that, but it still doesn't make me relax you know

[thorny pond]

Venth was the play for sludge but necro still litters the top 100 parses.

[woeful juniper]

ho estly with the way kt looks necro could be big

[thorny pond]

With the way it looks kyrian could be big

[woeful juniper]

but then vent is gonna be good for downstairs

yea well fuck us i guess

just go nf

[thorny pond]

Think mystler is

[woeful juniper]

I got all of them on 40 but i have no idea what to do

[thorny pond]

You’ve been them all, do what you enjoy

[plush garnet]

wtf all 4 of them on 40

Respect

😂

[balmy condor]

You'll never take me alive

[woeful juniper]

after sirw nerf we were told do whatever with your covenants so I did them all. NF does feel shit tho not gonna play that one

[thorny pond]

The difference between best sim covenants and worst sim cov no leggo is still smaller than the dude who told me “sin was dead”’s dps and mine in the key I just ran

So it honestly doesn’t matter kek

[woeful juniper]

well you probably wanne play sub or pirate in keys

with pirate probably being better

[thorny pond]

You’re the kid I just carried :p

[woeful juniper]

[thorny pond]

I raid think for myself but I just copy ryfie for keys

[umbral portal]

sin is good for keys

if you are carrying people through 17s it doesnt matter one lick

[thorny pond]

Next week all 3 will be quite good for keys

[woeful juniper]

Sin is good but outlaw and sub are going to outperform

[plush garnet]

I swear I saw in some patch notes black powder is getting changed a bit? is it even stronger now ?

[thorny pond]

BP is stronger now yes

[woeful juniper]

play whatever you want tbh it really doesnt matter that much unless yore really pushing

[umbral portal]

yep it barely matters at all

[thorny pond]

Sub will be good for big pulls and prio damage but cleave they’ll still lack

[plush garnet]

I dont think sub/sin will ever compete with outlaw on cleave

just a matter of how close can you get

[thorny pond]

Sin cleave is one of the best in the game

There’s a reason necro sin rogues bust open p2 sire

[plush garnet]

Well fuck I hope it stays that way

[woeful juniper]

p2 necro sub is insane. so much fun to play

[thorny pond]

It’s not changing

[woeful juniper]

i mean sin

sub rogue o n sire

[plush garnet]

Sonndo what cov you said you were going?

[woeful juniper]

necro atm

[plush garnet]

Gotcha

[woeful juniper]

but i dont know tbh

[plush garnet]

Feels like most people don't

😂

[woeful juniper]

it kinda just depends on what is going to be bedt for kt and sylvanas

[plush garnet]

True

[thorny pond]

Think most have settled in barring any major sim uncovering

[woeful juniper]

and i think necro for kt but vent for sylvanas

[thorny pond]

Comes down to the content you prioritize and the specs you enjoy

[thorny pond]

Tell your raid leader you are glued to KT or downstairs

Don’t take no for an answer

[woeful juniper]

ill go down for sure

[thorny pond]

I bet you do 😏

[woeful juniper]

so vent might still be better but theres so many adds and sbs is going to be nice

also you can probaly sbs the 2 big guys before going down so that would still be very good for dmg

[thorny pond]

Hopefully it doesn’t bug out

[woeful juniper]

i didnt test kt and guardian so i dont know

maybe someone does

[thorny pond]

Saw some stupid ptr vids and it looked like SBS was bugging out or causing issues

[plush garnet]

Beach what did you say you were doing for cov?

[thorny pond]

Need someone who did kt to confirm

Venth

[woeful juniper]

ill probaly just check what kushr is doing next week

and go thst covenant

[thorny pond]

Cev is staying necro and he is running sin for prog

I plan to play sub in m+ and raid sin

[gusty mirage]

imagine not simping Cev

smh

[sonic schooner]

True

[thorny pond]

Cev hangs out with the hottest dudes and wears the freshest clothes.

[gusty mirage]

he's completely jacked too

[balmy condor]

his cock is huge

[thorny pond]

You wouldn’t say shit to his face at raid

[gusty mirage]

[balmy condor]

@limber lion your cock is huge

[sonic schooner]

🤔

[thorny pond]

Pin that for a few days

See who really checks and doesn’t

[gusty mirage]

so no one will see it

gotcha

[sonic schooner]

This tbh

[thorny pond]

The amount of times check the pins has been said versus pins checked is incomprehensible

I don’t have a metaphor

[sonic schooner]

Last time someone came and ask for help

His question was answered in the latest pin

[thorny pond]

Except sim day then everyone looks for top st number and parrots that with no context

[sonic schooner]

So we kindly asked him to check pins

And he went full mad for no reason

[thorny pond]

Sounds like #outlaw

Ping guy

[gusty mirage]

oh I remember that

dude went mental at censi

[sonic schooner]

I ping only ceve and whisp

I'm not intrested in other rogues

Sorry not sorry

[thorny pond]

That’s how we got 50000 rogues playing kyrian when 2 were only going to benefit from the early potency

[gusty mirage]

I thought what we had was special

[pale fossil]

I used to ping Guy and Solo when I played Outlaw and they were helpful

[balmy condor]

damn didn't even take me out to dinner wtf

[fallow otter]

So you're saying you're interested in whisp sexually?

[balmy condor]

are we exclusive or what

[gusty mirage]

solo's good people

[thorny pond]

You’re good people

[pale fossil]

Even if Guy was mostly telling me to stop giving a shit about things

[sonic schooner]

Lemme breath

[gusty mirage]

no u

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/blushing-shucks-aww-gif-4120218

[fallow otter]

[sonic schooner]

Sad part is

[thorny pond]

I interviewed for a new guild tonight and the first question they asked me if I was gay

[sonic schooner]

I've the same hairline

😔

[pale fossil]

WHAT

[sonic schooner]

[gusty mirage]

on this holy month of all months? smh

[woeful juniper]

for the hairline

[thorny pond]

I said no so they rightfully assumed I was not a healer

So I guess healers are gay?

[fallow otter]

Petition to have mythic rank in avatars so we know who is just regurgitation junk

[gusty mirage]

[sonic schooner]

May I have lfr rank?

[silent fossil]

at least 6 of the 10 healers we've had over the years are/were gay

so yea mostly

[pale fossil]

What I’m smart but bad at gameing

[woeful juniper]

petetion to not have mythic rank in avatars cause my guild still take 11min on slg

[gusty mirage]

woah man, why do you gotta attack me like that

[fallow otter]

Lol

[gusty mirage]

my info is above average okay?

[thorny pond]

Oxi is a treasure be nice to him

[sonic schooner]

5 out of our 6 healers are girls

So

[pale fossil]

Also I don’t think Whisp even runs Mythic IIRC?

[sonic schooner]

[silent fossil]

https://i.imgur.com/BawBO53.png do i pass the mythic rank test

[gusty mirage]

Whispyr's a mythic boy now

[pale fossil]

Oh hot damn

[gusty mirage]

our boy's back in the saddle

[woeful juniper]

cries in 44% slg parse

[thorny pond]

He will Never have time to do all his sim homework

[gusty mirage]

what's it like to not get stuck on council and then have half your roster quit the game?

[thorny pond]

Raid hop

[pale fossil]

I’m only 4/10M and with one kill on Sire and it was terrible, so could be worse @woeful juniper

[thorny pond]

I skipped council sludge and slg prog that way

[silent fossil]

only lucky because 1/3 of our roster has played with each other since MoP when we were in supermassive

[gusty mirage]

hey man, CE is CE

[sonic schooner]

Imagine losing to a boss that ask you mecanically to know your right and your left

[pale fossil]

What do they call the literal worst rogue to kill Mythic Sire?

Cutting Edge 😎

[thorny pond]

CE

[woeful juniper]

[sonic schooner]

1/10 but CE

[gusty mirage]

hey I used this same logic when I found out how much I passed the bar exam by :3

[thorny pond]

Gray parse means it died man

[sonic schooner]

[pale fossil]

Lol I’m also a lawyer so that hits even harder

[gusty mirage]

AYYY TWINSIES

[pale fossil]

❤️❤️❤️

[gusty mirage]

Passed on the dot

didn't even care, I was like fuck it I passed

[thorny pond]

I’ll ping you next time I’m in jail

[woeful juniper]

rank 34 sire parse git gud scrub

[gusty mirage]

I got you, I need more pro boner work

Bono*

[thorny pond]

No no

[gusty mirage]

shit I always make that typo with the cute ones

[thorny pond]

I like that

[pale fossil]

17% grey parse get fukt

[thorny pond]

If that isn’t a porn title already I’ll make it and cut you in on it

[pale fossil]

The only response. I actually have no idea how much I passed by haha

Didn’t even look

[gusty mirage]

Just mention me in the credits, I'm not a flashy guy

[sonic schooner]

0% parse sire . Being that bad is harder than going for 100% parse

[pale fossil]

It’s ok, anything above a 10% parse is just pad damage.

[gusty mirage]

I was shitting my pants because I wasn't sure if I wrote my seat number down right. So I was on edge until the results came in, and of course mine got delayed in in the mail by like 2 weeks

[thorny pond]

That’s when you sue for mental distress

[pale fossil]

I would die. That’s awful.

He’d be suing himself for NIED lolol

[woeful juniper]

TBH good sire dmg means alot of add dmg

[thorny pond]

TFW you don’t sort parses by boss damage

[woeful juniper]

still nr.1 in boss dmg tho

[thorny pond]

And then again by ilvl

[pale fossil]

Yeah, and my parse was always going to be in the toilet because it was prog and we had to stop mad DPS. I just like to meme about it haha

[sonic schooner]

By ilvl bracket *

[gusty mirage]

I just compare it to my fellow raiders

if I grey parse and its still top 5

that's a win in my book

I may suck but at least I'm the shiniest piece of shit in the toilet

[thorny pond]

Secrit beach plays: when you need to link your logs for a guild app, link by ilvl

[gusty mirage]

I think my ilvl parses are shit

[woeful juniper]

https://gyazo.com/3400c8bd7b41b20fd997daf59136bbc0

[pale fossil]

Yah, IIRC I was top 3 in P2 and P3 damage, just low in P1 so

[sonic schooner]

I love when I'm 95 parse rogue, and still behind my boomie who are at 60 parse

[woeful juniper]

sire p2

[sonic schooner]

[woeful juniper]

[thorny pond]

That’s when you link a past tier when you were good

[gusty mirage]

oh I got one for you that you'll LOVE

[pale fossil]

Uh oh

[woeful juniper]

I swear its good for sire dmg to kills adds

[thorny pond]

Who was the guy who called out whyspyr with his sub logs earlier and did like 6k on hunts?

[pale fossil]

That makes sense, doesn’t it? Energy regen from bleeds on adds.

[gusty mirage]

@sonic schooner heroic sludge

[woeful juniper]

maybe 1 or 2 envemons on the adds

you know

for sire dmg

[sonic schooner]

Outlaw sludge

[mint narwhal]

do they reset valor point next week on patch day ?

[sonic schooner]

Everything but fun

[thorny pond]

Probably

[woeful juniper]

yes valor will be reset

[mint narwhal]

ok

[woeful juniper]

buy leather with it for big stonks

[sonic schooner]

When on a pillar you only got the snd buff

[thorny pond]

You’ll get compensated with silver

[sonic schooner]

[gusty mirage]

february was a scary time for me

[pale fossil]

I was riding the pine for Sludge. I want to do the fight on mythic but need to find a new guild.

[thorny pond]

Guild I just left needs a rogue

[sonic schooner]

Why would they need a rogue?

[pale fossil]

Why’d you leave?

[sonic schooner]

They need a should?

Shroud *

[woeful juniper]

shroud to skip trash just to have you leave before boss

[thorny pond]

Tricks and mind numbing

Mind numbingly boring raid atmosphere

[pale fossil]

Ah makes sense

[gusty mirage]

ah the warlock m+ treatment

[balmy condor]

@pale fossil how dare you not call me a mythic raider, I have you know I wiped on invera yesterday like everyone else

[sonic schooner]

I should put ToT in my keybinds one day

[pale fossil]

LOOOOOL

[sonic schooner]

As the simp I am

I confirm he did

[thorny pond]

ToT is hot macrod and my TSM yells at the tank every 30s an annoying whisper

[sonic schooner]

[thorny pond]

When they reply it puts them on ignore

[woeful juniper]

i always ToT the mage on pull for the luls

[pale fossil]

Is it that important to ToT in a raid fight? I never did it LOL

[gusty mirage]

you're a mythic raider to me

in my heart

in my mind

[sonic schooner]

I used to have a whisp aswell to my tank on mythic+

The guy told me to go fk myself

[thorny pond]

In your body

[sonic schooner]

So I did

[balmy condor]

assert dominance

[silent fossil]

did you do it right then mid key

[thorny pond]

Tell him to fuck you himself

[gusty mirage]

oh no everyone found out

[sonic schooner]

Yea

[thorny pond]

Coward

[sonic schooner]

I just heartstone