assassination

[compact pumice]

Probably get way better performance to start off

And if you need a DNS you can probably get a cheap one

[gusty mirage]

have an old PC at work that I can set up as the database for it

and keep everything internal to start

[compact pumice]

Yeah. Old computers usually do pretty decent as low bandwidth servers

I don't have much exp with free AWS though

Seems it would have to be very limited to be profitable for them though

[limber lion]

Exsanguinate is my favorite talent.

[gusty mirage]

[vestal wren]

most providers have generous free tiers (azur, aws, google cloud) but also some limitations you need to read up

[compact pumice]

Not accounting for taste, I guess.

[vestal wren]

but if we want to discuss hosting we can move it to #off-topic

[compact pumice]

Ah, yeah I guess it's a selling point.

[odd hazel]

what would happen if we just fought fuu on this

how quick would that ban hammer come

[gusty mirage]

he'd probably just mute us for an hour

until we got bored and moved on

[vestal wren]

fight me on what, exsanguinate?

i don't like the talent

[odd hazel]

uh

yeah

exsanquinate

[gusty mirage]

its okay it seems blizzard doesn't either

[vestal wren]

its not tuned badly intentionally

[gusty mirage]

it'd just be a nightmare to balance if they tried to buff it

[limber lion]

It's dead.

[vestal wren]

it just doesen't go well with the spec design anymore

[limber lion]

The best talent is also the worst talent

[vestal wren]

you could buff it by a lot and it would still be bad

[limber lion]

Such is the life of Exsanguinate

[vestal wren]

basically would need a rework to become relevant again

[slim wagon]

what potency conduit do we use for m+ as sin ?

[desert inlet]

give us Expedient again

[compact pumice]

I mean.... Blizzard used to "balance" far more complex talent trees. Not balancing this few rows of talents is kind of lazy. There really is no excuse for having parts of such a small tree that no one ever would pick without trolling.

[limber lion]

Lashing Scars for Venth, Sudden Fractures for Necro, WPS/LP/PK for the rest

[slim wagon]

ok thank you

[vestal wren]

exsang is not a easy talent to balance, so i wouldn't blame blizz for it

also exsang did when it was good always rely on haste snapshotting iirc

[odd hazel]

why is exsang so hard to balance?

[limber lion]

Exsang relied on using Shrouded Suffocation and having 60%+ haste

[vestal wren]

^

[limber lion]

Without both, it was useless

[dawn ivy]

if they force the talent itself to work for sin, we would find ways to make it busted

[odd hazel]

why?

[limber lion]

With just 80% haste, it's bad.

With just SS, it's bad

[vestal wren]

it was good in early bfa

[limber lion]

Needs so much borrowed power to make it good

[vestal wren]

because you used galecallers that gave you a ton of haste

that you could then use to snapshot to exsang

[limber lion]

And because Shrouded was broken

Legit broken

[vestal wren]

and in nyalotha

[odd hazel]

why is it bad though? does it just do so little damage with out so much pumping into it?

[limber lion]

You could oneshot people in arena

[compact pumice]

It might be harder than something like Subterfuge to balance but it's not really "unknowns" for them how the dots scale and calculating the minimum, average and maximum DPS potential of Exsanguinate shouldn't take someone that long to do.

[limber lion]

With a single garrote

[vestal wren]

with corruption that drove the haste levels very high

exsang was outside of that not rly used

[dawn ivy]

alacrity is just unfortunately better in all scenarios

[limber lion]

It makes our bleeds faster and our bleeda aren't really great to begin with

[compact pumice]

If it doesn't work with Shadowlands changes but did before why was it ignored when they changed all the other stuff then?

[vestal wren]

also in bfa you now have alacrity thats just doing a lot for the spec

and that the talent competes against

[limber lion]

We would need massive buffs to our bleeds, a complete rework of the talent or massive borrowed power to make it good

[dawn ivy]

they didnt change exsanguinate because toxic blade was what got alot of attention

[limber lion]

I mean they changed Venom Rush in 8.0 as well

We never played the talent in BFA

And still don't

They're both completely dead

[vestal wren]

vr is undertuned

[limber lion]

The old VR was fine

No, it's just awful

It makes our 50 energy mutilate cost 42 energy

[dawn ivy]

i wish venom rush got changed to being a shiv focused talent

[limber lion]

VR was great in legion, but it was too op

So they had to tune it down

So instead they butchered it completely

[gusty mirage]

lmao

that seems to be the common way they deal with balancing issues

[compact pumice]

If they redesigned it to be easier to balance it would be even easier for them. Something like "Increases Garrote, Rupture to their maximum duration and they now do damage once every second". Then you can tweak how often it does damage.

[dawn ivy]

but then haste stocks would plummet

[mental trout]

just race changed to Orc - I see Blood Fury increases your attack power by 122... Didn't even realize Attack Power was still in this game lmao. So how do i even find out/ understand what it is even really doing to increase my power- in terms of what?

[dawn ivy]

its basically a flat damage amp to almost everything you use

[limber lion]

Yeh

It's just more damage on most things

[dawn ivy]

nothing to focus/track

[mental trout]

flat damage how though? like 122 dmg inc on each thing? just want to know what it actually does loil

like the math behind it

[balmy condor]

it's equal to 122 agility

[dawn ivy]

attack power is the man behind the curtain ACTUALLY giving you increased damage

[balmy condor]

each ability multiplies attack power

[mental trout]

its really 122 agility ?

that seems really strong

[dawn ivy]

its good

[balmy condor]

its aight

[dawn ivy]

one of the better racials that lines up with vendetta for a baby bump in dam

[mental trout]

yea seems really good... that plus Hardiness is lovee

[gusty mirage]

the real downside is the fact that all your mogs look like shit compared to belf

(:

[balmy condor]

its no mechagnome

[compact pumice]

Orc is pretty much the best DPS horde race

[balmy condor]

but it's pretty good

[halcyon zealot]

female orc is close second in terms of how mogs look imo

[compact pumice]

But Alliance have so many better

Female orc is just less bad than male orc.

[halcyon zealot]

nah armor looks good on them

better than most races in the game

[compact pumice]

I feel like none of the rogue sets are supposed to be that thick.

They look better on skinny types like Undead or Belf

[mental trout]

i like the way they look tbh, but 122 agility on a 2 min cd macro with badge of ferocity along with vendetta is so dopppppe

[plain thistle]

for now at least

the attack power is flat

[gusty mirage]

added perk of orc being bis for pvp as well

[compact pumice]

Right. does Trolls scale better later?

[compact pumice]

Yeah it's good, but Night Elves for rogues are pretty crazy in PVP tbh due to meld

[plain thistle]

belf, troll and/or troll zandalari can be better in 1 or 2 tiers

[mental trout]

yea hardiness is insane... thats why i race changed for pvp

[limber lion]

Belf is always better

Imagine looking at an orc's butt for 8 hours a day

Couldn't be me

[dawn ivy]

i was going to mention orc getting outscaled but its such a small number people get uppity

[plain thistle]

female orc is just a thicc human

[teal bloom]

Me neither, unless... 😳

Actually my rogue is fem blood elf too

[mental trout]

orc getting outscaled?

[mental trout]

when?

[balmy condor]

when 122 agi isn't as good as other racials

but racials in general are like

maybe 0.5% apart aside from the outliers

so tbh no point in caring

[dawn ivy]

it typically happens much later into an expansion

[plain thistle]

but I need all the dps

[dawn ivy]

i think orc started to get "outscaled" around end of EP?

I was alliance though so i didnt have much stake in knowing

[balmy condor]

I don't have space in my brain for useless info like that

so Idk either

only thing I know about racials is troll gives haste, orc gives attack power, belf gives energy, and mechagnome is crazy

[gusty mirage]

tauren rogue when?

[balmy condor]

oh and zandalari get to pick a bleed that doesn't work with doomblade or venomous wounds

[gusty mirage]

the voiceover for /moo alone makes it superior

[balmy condor]

cause that was something people thought worked

for like a month

[jade raven]

anyone has wa for rupture with dynamic pandemic pls?

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/aL6XDBEGg

mine has it in there

[limber lion]

Nutty Blood of the Enemy on the preview

[jade raven]

ty

[balmy condor]

yeh

I mean I've just been updating it

it looks the same

XD

[limber lion]

Bring back BotE

Actually a really fun ability.

Putting all bleeds up on aoe then slamming that boy

[rugged sandal]

Is it bad to save flag for vend every time

[empty tide]

depends on fight, usually slamming flag on cd gets you an extra flag

really depends on kill times

[limber lion]

Just use it on cooldown my man.

[rugged sandal]

Yeah we’re on sire prog so I was just wondering what would be best

[limber lion]

On Sire you just slam on cooldown and start syncing in P3

[rugged sandal]

okay

[odd hazel]

@gusty mirage my group is gonna attempt mythic.

send help

[outer lodge]

Recommended Necro opener with MA? I've heard a few different ones

[balmy condor]

On 1 target?

[outer lodge]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Sbs snd mut rup

Could do mut gar rup too

Doesn’t matter

[outer lodge]

Use other 2 charges of sbs during gem/ 4+ point env during shiv?

[balmy condor]

Yep

[outer lodge]

Or just spam 3 in opener to apply rup

[balmy condor]

Gem should proc shortly after

So you should be able to slam another, shiv vanish, do a bit of that, then sbs again

[outer lodge]

Cool thanks

[gusty mirage]

alt+f4 hurry

[odd hazel]

like.

i want out, SAVE MEE

[gusty mirage]

I can't even save myself

[odd hazel]

its okay, my GMs fiance just threatened to Disband the guild

[dawn ivy]

mythic prog is fun

i envy people still finding difficult content

[odd hazel]

like

im 220 and havent stepped foot into mythic

im jealous of people who get to do it

[gusty mirage]

not when you have a boomkin on your raid team pulling 3.1k dps

Krey's in trouble

[odd hazel]

and a aff lock doing worse

[spice spire]

Just faction swap, E Z

[fringe anchor]

can i ask some silly questions that have come up while leveling?

[balmy condor]

No, we ban for silly questions

This is serious conversation only

[spice spire]

Whispyr is a tyrant :/

[balmy condor]

[cobalt pelican]

press silly on cooldown

[balmy condor]

As long as you’re aware that leveling is basically meaningless on retail, I think it’s fine

Had some guy ask me for stat priorities for a level 25 one time

Was an interesting conversation

[fringe anchor]

ok serious business only, so uh, is it worth to use an ilvl 110 weapon with haste on it over my 233 sire weapon token that doesn't have haste?

😉

[balmy condor]

Yes

100%

[fringe anchor]

heard chef

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I tell @limber lion all the time, if you can’t get a 233 this week, just do lfr and get a haste dagger, just as good

He doesn’t get the dagger from lfr either

But it’s worth a shot

[odd hazel]

debating it, if anything happens or this shit gets worse. this mechagnome is going orc on area-52 again.

[fringe anchor]

so i know that refreshing my dots increases the duration, pandemic something something, but if they've already been increased, there's no reason to refresh until they're closer to expiration?

specifically for garrote, where i feel inclined to refresh it every 6 seconds when i'm pretty sure that does nothing (besides throw out energy)

[odd hazel]

just refresh before it falls off

[balmy condor]

Yeah that doesn’t do anything

You can’t extend past the maximum

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[balmy condor]

So 18 + 5.4 is 23.4

That’s the maximum for any garrote

If you cast at 15 left, it’s still just 18 from the new one, plus the 5.4 from the old one

[spice spire]

Who plays on area 52

[gusty mirage]

WOW

rude

[spice spire]

Toxic I know

[slow marsh]

I thought a52 was a dead server

Especially for horde

[gusty mirage]

your mom

[slow marsh]

like 3 guilds on it or

[spice spire]

True whispyr’s guild, some crappy mythic guild and their one alliance guild

[slow marsh]

Yeah

[fringe anchor]

subterfuge doesn't snapshot its damage increase does it

[gusty mirage]

garrotes from stealth do 80% more damage, so it just passively empowers the entire garrote

[odd hazel]

Satire orrrr

[gusty mirage]

they're being mean

[odd hazel]

BULLYYYSSS

[gusty mirage]

and bullying me

[odd hazel]

when i played a lock for 4 years, area-52 was my home

[spice spire]

Not JUST you 🙂

[slow marsh]

Yeah

[gusty mirage]

whispyr ignores us anyway

[spice spire]

But very much you

[odd hazel]

tbh though i dont even know of any other good horde servers

[spice spire]

How dare he not respond to every single thing

[gusty mirage]

zuljin, tich, illidan

[spice spire]

Illidan, zuljin, tich, Mal’ganis

[odd hazel]

Mal'ganis......gross

[gusty mirage]

pretty much any high pop server that isn't stormrage lmao

[spice spire]

@ me

[fringe anchor]

so double garroting after stealth would give me an extra ~5 seconds of buffed garrote

that's what i've been doing, habit i need to break?

[odd hazel]

are you garroting right away after your first one?

you shouldnt do that

[spice spire]

In ST, that’s a DPS loss still. The only time we open with multiple garrotes is for AoE/cleave

ST the talent should be Master Assassin

[fringe anchor]

garrote-amush-garrote is what i've been doing w my 3 seconds

[spice spire]

Oh no

[odd hazel]

yeah, dont do that

[fringe anchor]

aye

[spice spire]

!mut

[prisma monolith]

Ambush is currently only used from blindside/sepsis proc, not from stealth.
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3).
Some other factors to consider are increased poison applications, blindside, and doomblade. This is true for all talent combinations and legendaries.

[spice spire]

On top of that, for a single target opener with subterfuge it’ll be more along the lines of garrote > mutilate > SnD >

[fringe anchor]

was wondering about the combo point difference tbh

i've replaced it on my stealth bar

[odd hazel]

you only use Ambush with BS procs

[fringe anchor]

yeah sounds good

[spice spire]

Realized how it may have come off, but you’re learning a class, it’s not big deal. We’d rather you ask questions than continue to mess up - it’s all a learning experience

[balmy condor]

I’m at work wtf man

[gusty mirage]

I'm working on becoming a multi millionaire dw

[balmy condor]

Hire me I’ll do your sims

[odd hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-smell-danger-faint-animated-gif-5567071

[gusty mirage]

you don't even have to do my sims, friends don't let friends work if they're multimillionaires

[stoic needle]

mechagnome

[stoic needle]

[fringe anchor]

oh shoot my poisons drop if i die right

[slow marsh]

no

[stoic needle]

No

[fringe anchor]

hmm

didn't think i'd been playing for an hour already .-.

[stoic needle]

Alliance

[odd hazel]

226 gloveless people

think they know something

[stoic needle]

Sorry you aren't allowed to flame unless you're at least 4 ft tall

[balmy condor]

You’ll never catch me with sub226 gloves

[odd hazel]

you arent allowed to flame until you're atleast decent

[balmy condor]

OOF

[stoic needle]

Says the heroic raider

[odd hazel]

Says the mastery lover.

[balmy condor]

MORE OOFS

[stoic needle]

IO check

[slow marsh]

Ouch nice burn from the heroic raider

OMG

WHY YOU BEAT ME TO IT

[odd hazel]

1300. no mythic raiding

also 220

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic needle]

Don't make me get

[odd hazel]

You already are?

[stoic needle]

Fake news

[hollow river]

too much toxicity in this class discord omg

[balmy condor]

AMR was right

[stoic needle]

This is the poison spec channel

[balmy condor]

[odd hazel]

if we let the good rogues in here, Osh wouldnt be allowed in.

he'd be stuck in off-topic

[stoic needle]

You wouldn't either

[odd hazel]

death would let me in because i dont wear mastery.

[stoic needle]

All of the cool kids are in OT

[balmy condor]

Well

Now it’s time for a name change

[stoic needle]

Whyspir

[balmy condor]

When you got a new nickname

[odd hazel]

WhySpIrDeAtH

[balmy condor]

The name gotta go

[odd hazel]

wihspyr

[hollow river]

ouch

[unreal kayak]

Should have changed name to «Did you check the pins»

[hollow river]

AMR?

[stoic needle]

Whydontyoureadthepinspyr

Still the best

[odd hazel]

pinspyr

[fringe anchor]

wish y'all had faq channels like acherus 😦

much better than pins imo

[odd hazel]

everything you need to know is in pins

literally

[balmy condor]

Oh were you not around when ask mr robot came in here during legion and told people the class discords are shit, and then made up random nonsense statistics showing how toxic the channels are?

[odd hazel]

wait

what

[hollow river]

i just started playing wow a few months ago, 2021 baby here.

[odd hazel]

welcome to hte freak show

[balmy condor]

The blog was taken down really quick

Cause everyone came after amr

[stoic needle]

Wow

[balmy condor]

But I think infexious still has a video on it

[stoic needle]

I wish I could've seen that

[balmy condor]

Where you can kinda read it over his shoulder

[stoic needle]

That sounds like some a++ shit

[balmy condor]

They had all sorts of pie charts like “questions answered”

And it said 78% of questions were unanswered

Or some shit

[hollow river]

who is ask my robot

dude who made an add on?

[balmy condor]

And they were like “you know we’re right because we used a bot to scrub the chat logs”

[balmy condor]

Askmrrobot is a raidbots-esque webpage

But they do their own sims

[hollow river]

ahhh

[balmy condor]

And it’s really bad

And their numbers make 0 sense

[hollow river]

o.O

[balmy condor]

And no one knows who their theorycrafters are

And who maintains their sims

It’s like the Noxxic of simulations

[odd hazel]

ive seen people say noxxic is good

[balmy condor]

You should politely tell them to get a new hobby

[hollow river]

Lol search the term fuck you and it’s like every hour in #OT

[balmy condor]

Yeah

@verbal mantle fuck you

Filthy monk player

[hollow river]

O:

[balmy condor]

This would’ve been funnier if he were here

But he’s also terrible at responding

[hollow river]

Can you use emotes from@other servers ever

[balmy condor]

I just did

[hollow river]

O:

[dawn ivy]

gotta be nitro

[hollow river]

How do you nitro

[balmy condor]

Yeah

It’s a discord thing

[hollow river]

$?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[hollow river]

):

[balmy condor]

On mobile

[hollow river]

I’ve barely messed with this thing I just found out I could check my @‘s

Jeez that’s nearly a wow sub

[balmy condor]

I think there’s nitro classic

That’s like 5 a month or something

Idk I pay for a whole year so it’s cheaper fore

[compact pumice]

I use Discord way more than WoW tbh

[balmy condor]

Same

[compact pumice]

Figure it's worth to donate some to the developer for a good product

[balmy condor]

I just fork up the 100 a year or whatever

[hollow river]

Tbh that’s how it’s been for me too lately

Log in for raid maybe a few other things other than that it’s chillin with the boiz and the occasional ladyfriend

[compact pumice]

Before Discord it was way harder to create lasting communities, especially since it's harder for them to have similar uses and how they work

Easier to explain to a newbie than IRC

Less fucky than facebook groups or whatever

Just a good product tbh

[hollow river]

Used to use IRC a lot too

[wanton terrace]

Random question, should I oil and stone my weapons or use stones on both?

[balmy condor]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[compact pumice]

I mean IRC is pretty great, but there's just too much "shit to know" about IRC to explore communities and get other's to join yours or whatever

[balmy condor]

The old irc days

[hollow river]

Yeah lots of commands

[compact pumice]

I mean I could probably teach my mom how to use Discord, over the phone, with just a link.

Imagine doing that with IRC

[hollow river]

Used to use IRC for RuneScape rofl

[compact pumice]

I used to only communicate ingame via color coded wavy text to sell my lobsters

[hollow river]

Yeah discord is definitely much nicer

Lmao

[strange python]

anyones sim randomly drop?

[balmy condor]

Windfury totem fix

Most likely

[hollow river]

Noxxic says vers>crit>mas>haste

[compact pumice]

vers highest? that's a new one

For PvP I guess?

[balmy condor]

Bunch of clowns over there at noxxic

They throw darts at a board tbh

[compact pumice]

I mean I wish I could sim PvP stats tbh!

Is there a way?

[balmy condor]

No

[hollow river]

Anyone using that pawn string is screwed up lol

[balmy condor]

Anyone using pawn* is screwed up

Fixed that for you

[hollow river]

I like the design of the website

Really?

[balmy condor]

Pawn is giga shit

Why would anyone use it

[hollow river]

Can’t you plug your own sim stat weights into it

[balmy condor]

Yes

But we don’t recommend stat weights sims either

So you’re taking a “bad” sim

And plugging it into an addon

And then making decisions from that

[hollow river]

O:

[balmy condor]

And then if you want your pawn to be accurate, you have to resim on every piece of gear

If you don’t, it’s inaccurate again

So you have to resim for every piece

When you could just sim top gear instead for it

But instead of just using an accurate sim type

[compact pumice]

Does Pawn have a website? Can't find it

[balmy condor]

You take like 6 extra steps

To get a worse result

[hollow river]

I meant noxxic

But yea their info is much different than here

[fringe anchor]

pawn in general is .-.

[compact pumice]

Ok checking it out. Looks like it has a designer with a good eye tbh! But the information seems reaaaaaally outdated. It's easy to get fooled by good design if the content is lackluster.

That might be why the stat weights are pretty whack. Just check the Gems and enchants. They seem like they are still BFA? Just guessing but not relevant to Shadowlands at least. Even though the title is AssassinationPvELevel 60 (End-Game) 9.0.5 Shadowlands

[balmy condor]

Noxxic is just a cash grab

[compact pumice]

Yeah that might be the case

[hollow river]

From the ads?

[compact pumice]

It's way more lucrative to focus on good, marketable design than accurate data and information, because that shit is hard to get.

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[hollow river]

Going to every class discord is hard? xD

[compact pumice]

But if you look like you are smart and talk like you know everything then you're basically doing what every fucking MBA in the world is doing. Just trying to "fake it til you make it"

It's not a bad strat tbh. You can get by being quite average if you can just sell yourself better than average.

[hollow river]

They definitely have plenty of ads though

5 per page

[compact pumice]

I wouldn't know. I just see this shit: "noxxic is supported entirely by ads. please whitelist us to support our continuation of guide updates and site development. <3"

[hollow river]

And yeah I’m not speaking from the perspective of using the information if that wasn’t clear lol

[compact pumice]

Yeah, it's just the first I've seen it

and my honest first reaction

[hollow river]

Ad blocker?

[compact pumice]

Yeah

[hollow river]

How does one do such magic

[compact pumice]

I just use UBlock Origin. Good shit. Can't barely use the internet without some equivalent

[hollow river]

Until the past few months I have not had my own computer or gamed for like 10 years

[compact pumice]

Funny thing about Noxxic: The stat weight has Versa highest but basically no gear in the BiS gear has Vers, that's just contradiction

[hollow river]

Ive got a lot to catch up on lol

[compact pumice]

I was interested to see the BiS list if he has that weird stat weight

[hollow river]

They basically just put in all raid gear almost

[compact pumice]

You have a lot of gaming to catch up on! Though I was kinda on a gaming pause during my Uni years. I did not trust myself to game "casually" since I never do that and I didn't wanna fuck up my studies

[peak haven]

Anyone know when mortgar wing opens so I can get doomblade

[compact pumice]

You can get it whenever in Twisting Corridors. Just go to floor 3 and check what boss you're getting and reset if you don't get him

[odd hazel]

you can just farm twisting corridor to get it

[peak haven]

Oh dang thanks so much guys

<3

I was so worried lol

[fringe anchor]

how long does it take runes to begin decaying

err. combo points

[balmy condor]

Think it’s 20 for the first and 10 after?

Or something like that

We had a convo about this like 3 months ago

[peak haven]

Do you know what the bosses name is

[verbal mantle]

wdym im terrible at responding

[balmy condor]

He says, an hour later

[verbal mantle]

it's 3:40am sir

[balmy condor]

6:40pm

Check your clocks man

That’s really weird

[verbal mantle]

giga weird, ima get a refund

[compact pumice]

Yeah it's 20s for first then 10s per consecutive after like @balmy condor said. Just tried it on a dummy

[balmy condor]

Wow I’m good

[fringe anchor]

yeah i was thinking it was 15 but that didn't feel right

[compact pumice]

[wise fiber]

shadowgrap totem any good now a days for us?

[balmy condor]

It’s real good yeh

[compact pumice]

It scales pretty weird. the 220 is way worse than 226 for some reason

More so than other trinkets

Also it's really good esp as Venthyr right? Since it is hasted

[peak haven]

Twisting corridor isn't open for me..not sure why. I know it requires a quest but the guy that gives it doesn't have one for me

[steel geyser]

Questchain from Bolvar in oribos?

[compact pumice]

On one char you need to complete the questline that starts from your Covenant but basically actually starts in Oribos yeah

[steel geyser]

Maybe you have one already in ur quest log in the maw categorie

[peak haven]

So the first quest in his line is explore torghast, I did it but he didn't give me a second quest

[steel geyser]

Hmm

[compact pumice]

It's still time gated I think

You need to do a new Torghast-related quest each week

I think

[steel geyser]

Yea some quests of the chain are still gated I reckon

[compact pumice]

But it's shared between chars now

[peak haven]

So its going to take me 7 weeks to up twisting corridors? Lol

Ffs.

[steel geyser]

But most of them are not anymore for sure, I did it on 5 chars already 😭

No way not 7 weeks

Way less

[peak haven]

Guess I may as well wait for mortregar wing to open.

[drifting cloud]

I think someone once said only the first quest is timegated apparently, but have you tried relogging

[steel geyser]

Maybe tied to covenant compaign? Idk tbh I never had any problem with this quest chain tbh

[peak haven]

I have my covenant

[compact pumice]

Do you have no quest in your log pertaining to Torghast?

Or have another char that is almost finished with the q-line

[peak haven]

Nope I don't @compact pumice .I turned in the first quest for the line to him that gives him the key

And he gave nothing after

Nah this is my first char

[compact pumice]

If no quest then you'll get a new one next week. Might be gated per week for the next 7 weeks until the first TC questline or might not be. Most people have done it already on one char so I don't think many in here have first hand experience on how it works now with all the catch-up systems but I have specifically heard that the basically only thing time-gated thing left is the Torghast q line. How much I am unsure of.

[peak haven]

Shit.

I hate knowing it will be a while til I get my legendary when 98% of people have access to it

And it feels like such a big part of pvp.

I wonder how long til mortgar wing opens.

[compact pumice]

Just checked it:
"Currently, it seems like Torghast wing rotations are simply randomized."

[peak haven]

Do they reset weekly

[compact pumice]

Yes

[peak haven]

When does the week end.

[odd hazel]

every tuesday

[compact pumice]

Tues on US and Wed on EU

[peak haven]

Just BEND ME OVER BLIZZARD

[compact pumice]

Also I haven't seen any Torghast wing be up two times in a row

So it's pretty much 50% chance of Mort'regar being up next week if it's randomized between the 4 wings not up this week.

[peak haven]

this is depressing.

Just gate me from having a shot at pvp

Ffs.

[stoic needle]

you can make MA

[peak haven]

Guess so.

[compact pumice]

But he prob doesn't have the ash for multiple leggos? If you just started farming Torghast

[peak haven]

Guess it's better than nothing

[compact pumice]

MA is really good dude

Don't worry

[stoic needle]

it's only a week

[peak haven]

How many Ash you need

[stoic needle]

its not that big of a deal

[compact pumice]

1250 Ash for a r1 lego

5150 for a R4 iirc

[peak haven]

I better get farming.

Oh shit..there's tiers of leggos?

Can you go straight for an r4

Since you know...I got time

[compact pumice]

If you're this upset that you can't farm basically the first week then you should have a bit more patience with the game tbh

It's the long haul for most things

[compact pumice]

You can yes. It takes about 4-5 weeks Torghast's worth of ASh to do

[peak haven]

I have 25k hours in BDO. Patience is something I have. Just gets a bit annoying when weeklies gate you and not your own time input.

[compact pumice]

But it doesn't cost more Ash to craft a Rank 1 first then upgrade it to a rank 4 later

[peak haven]

Especially when everyone else has legfos

Leggos

[compact pumice]

They removed a lot of systems that you could farm by time input. Many people like it unfortunately, so that they don't have to "nolife it" to be competitive.

I miss actual farms 😦

[peak haven]

I wouldnt mind it if everyone didn't have leggos but since I don't that really kicks me in the nuts for pvp that's all.

But ya its cool ill wait thanks for the info

[compact pumice]

PvP gear takes a while to accrue.

Grinding that shit out is gonna improve more than a lego

[peak haven]

For sure

[compact pumice]

especially since Legos are only damage

Meanwhile PvP gear is more about a combination of surv and damage for free (since it's all upgrades at the start).

Start grinding some conquest and honor. Look at some guides on how to quickest gear in PvP because it takes some finesse, more than I have, on how to balance your input and maximize your vault each week. Especially with bad gear.

Doomblade is more of a... slower PvP lego anyway. It basically gets effective when you can survive for a long time. If you rely on burst to end games quick then MA is gonna be a lot better for that.

[peak haven]

Can I solo ToF at 188 ilevel

Thanks for all your info btw

[compact pumice]

(a downside is that it makes your defensive CD Vanish into a DPS CD, but with low gear it's usually make or break from the opener anyway)

[peak haven]

Just figured doomblade was really good since im necrolord

[thorny rampart]

ct on 2+ targets?

[compact pumice]

ToF? @peak haven

[peak haven]

Theatre of pain

[compact pumice]

Yeah

[peak haven]

For my master

[low girder]

definitely not

[peak haven]

Google says its there

[thorny rampart]

@compact pumice tyvm 🙂

[low girder]

you can queue for it though

[compact pumice]

Yeah you're gonna need to queue for that

[peak haven]

Np thank guys

[compact pumice]

Soloing lvl 60 dungeons even on normal is going to be tough if you're not a tank

[peak haven]

So just get tier 1 master first

[compact pumice]

Even with max gear

Yeah if you focus on PVP or want to have a lego that works on all specs now at the start it's a really good choice

[peak haven]

I just heard about the nerf so I was worried

[compact pumice]

I basically use it for BGs, open world pvp, some Comps in 2s.

But Doomblade is kind of the better if you can't burst something down (also it's just always there so it's easier to use and will be more effective damage overall for longer arena matches)

[compact pumice]

Oh it's gonna be pretty bad in 9.1 yeah

Well unless we're talking Outlaw M+

[peak haven]

There's a good bit of time til then I guess

So ill just make a t1 master til I can make my doom

[compact pumice]

Yes. Probably at least a month

Some think more, some think about a month but who knows, they seem unsure when to release it themselves.

[peak haven]

Off topic question, why isn't haste our most used stat since its bled and poison dmg

I mean mastery

My bad

[odd hazel]

because our bleeds dont do much

[peak haven]

Tragic.

How much Ash can I farm a day?

Is there alockout

[odd hazel]

you can only do each wing once for ash

[low girder]

1140 per week, plus possible missions

[compact pumice]

Yeah you get 50 for the first Torghast q's then you get as much as 200 in the end for the q's.

[low girder]

also those, yeah

[compact pumice]

But other wise doing layer 8 is 570 soul ash per wing

[peak haven]

Oh wait so I cant even make a leg in 1 week

[compact pumice]

Mission table can reward some Ash too, but I'd say most weeks you should probably count more on those 570.

[peak haven]

If it requires 1250

[compact pumice]

You probably get 110 from the Torghast q's if you can do several OR you are real close unless you also make a mission table first week and do quests until you get the Ash mission which rewards 150 more usually

[peak haven]

I have 320 Ash and I've done 2 runs of torg

[compact pumice]

I've made a lego first week on alts at least.

But we get to go to layer 8 right away on alts

Once you get to layer 8 you will max out the amount of Ash you get from that wing

[peak haven]

Can a high level take me to do that

[compact pumice]

Yes

[peak haven]

Nice

Do you get extra Ash within the wing or only at the end? I've been stealthily all the way through to the bosses

[compact pumice]

So you will need to do layers 1 through 8 then do a layer 8 on a second wing to max out Ash first week

[compact pumice]

Only at the end

[peak haven]

Ok good lol

Was worried

Thanks for your time man haha

[low girder]

the high level will have to still do them one at a time though

they can't just take you to layer 8

[compact pumice]

No probs

Yeah

You'll be fine on the first ones

Might even make a layer 8 TBH, Torghast is not really hard, but it's gonna be harder than for most good geared chars at least

You can queue for Torghast in the LFG tool if I'm not mistaken

never done it

so not sure

But you can probably do some 5 man runs

probably makes it real quick and easier, but don't know about lower layer runs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fringe anchor]

i should be saving any ambush procs for after my vendetta ?

[compact pumice]

If you proc Blindside you use Ambush instead of your next Mutilate.

[fringe anchor]

even during vendetta? i feel i'm dangerous close to overcapping then

[compact pumice]

During the first 3 seconds? Yeah you might overcap then but it's worth it over losing the proc chance for a new Blindside from a mutilate

[fringe anchor]

hmm

so is overcapping not as critical as i'm used to

[compact pumice]

I think you should be able to use the energy quick enough, unless you start with a blindside, muti then proc blindside again, but odds are the third ability will be a finisher anyway

[fringe anchor]

it was in the guide somewhere but where should i be looking to be at with cp and energy when using vendetta

[compact pumice]

Overcapping energy is for sure a loss of damage. But in the opener at least you will be pretty starved WHEN you pop vendetta so that any blindside proc in those 3 seconds will not automatically lead to a overcap

But using a mutilate when you have Blindside is a big loss

[balmy condor]

With opener energy, lust, and lucky blindside procs it can get a little bit hairy

But usually deeper strat is slow enough to make it very rare

[compact pumice]

Even with Vigor it feels like it should be pretty rare to overcap. It feels really hard to overcap with that huge energy pool.

At least during the opener, but if you pool before a shiv window+mid pull vendetta and get a lucky BS proc there it might be harder to not overcap I suppose

But you don't need to pool as much energy for one of those Shivs+Vendettas mid pull, due to vendettas energy boost

[fringe anchor]

are vigor and deeper strat the two main picks on that row

[balmy condor]

Yes

[fringe anchor]

shame if so mfd is fun

[balmy condor]

Mfd in keys is okay

[fringe anchor]

fair

[balmy condor]

But it’s kinda painful

[compact pumice]

MFD does sim Higher for M+. If you perfect it you should be better with it

[balmy condor]

To play subterfuge and mfd

[compact pumice]

But it's harder for some reason

as Assa

On Outlaw I run both mouseover SBS and MFD and don't really feel like it's too much (well on some pulls it might be hard to get all spikes out and MFD the right targets if they have low HP).

But it might be just getting used to, and since Vigor is so close in M+ I just run it instead

🦥

[fringe anchor]

i'll give vigor a shot in this dungeon

lvl 46 tho

almost there 🙂

[cerulean nest]

how do I gain good info from m+ logs? just checked my page for the first time and I have insane parses, but I know that's not a real thing

[balmy condor]

You have to dive into it and see uptimes etc

Or you review a vod

[cerulean nest]

how does the Leaderboard scoring thing work?

feels jank

[balmy condor]

It’a purely based on the key level and time from what I can tell

But the parse is based only on the key level? Or the speed at that level?

[fringe anchor]

another silly question is wowAnalyzer maintained for y'all

[balmy condor]

No

[fringe anchor]

shame

so i gotta do all the legwork manually

[balmy condor]

Yeah I don’t really think something like wowanalyzer is worth the effort

[cobalt pelican]

i think key parses on wcl are including every key level or at least segmented key levels, cause in each log there's a specific key% parse

[balmy condor]

At least not for how basic it is

[cobalt pelican]

idk though just ignore all those numbers lol

if you wanna do anything with m+ logs it's all manual

[balmy condor]

It’ll tell you like you had downtime on shriek

Which yeah fucking duh you did

It’s shriek

[teal bloom]

Just kill it before the intermission starts EZ

[cerulean nest]

good thing almost nobody logs those lol

i have like a small handful of randomly logged ones

[cobalt pelican]

i log all my keys, it's handy and no input from my side

[cerulean nest]

I probably should start

[fringe anchor]

can get them to auto log

then you just gotta do the work to upload

[cobalt pelican]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/user/calendar/789184/

these are the log names

of a true large brain

[fringe anchor]

i mean i use wowA just to yell at me for lots of missed cooldowns or overcapped resources

which is pretty basic, but it saves a lot of clicks on wcl

but again, it seems significantly easier to overcap here than on my bdk

what with the seal fate procs

[compact pumice]

Yeah but I don’t think it bases any of the parse on damage. It’s due to it checking many of the logs from the leaderboard which usually doesn’t have an accompanying log so it doesn’t have any damage done to go by. So it’s probably like some algorithm that accounts for speed and key level some way, and then also they key% probably only accounts for speed?

[compact pumice]

You shouldn’t play around seal fate though, you play around the guaranteed 2 CP from mutilate only.

[fringe anchor]

oh i know

but wowa wouldn't necessarily know that

[compact pumice]

Well, it can, since the seal fate CPs are grouped under Seal Fate basically

[fringe anchor]

oooh fun

[compact pumice]

Tbh I find over capping CPs is easier as Outlaw with Broadside rolls together with SS procs and opportunity, also with SBS being kind of unpredictable sometimes.

[compact pumice]

I really like doing it (well, that it does it auto for me) because WCL is a lot more reasonable in counting actual interrupts from stuns and gouge, while Details only displays full interrupts (and I think silence?). And it also groups how many spells per pack etc goes uninterrupted. Pretty neat for actual analysis

Just too bad that the actual parse nr is kind of yank. But that’s mainly due to many of the highest “parses” are from the Leaderboard and doesn’t have an uploaded log for it to count.

So the system has to be based on information from the leaderboard

[gusty shore]

If we want to be only using bone spike during gemstones / cap wouldnt we also want to cast it during the MA window ?

[slow marsh]

First MA window is more about getting your buffs/debuffs up

[gusty shore]

I mean on the vanish one

[slow marsh]

On pull that is

[gusty shore]

In ven

[slow marsh]

yeah

you should have gems up at that point

[gusty shore]

It just tends to desync a bit on latter casts

Still within ven tho

[slow marsh]

Yeah idk about later casts

If you can line it up then cool but idk if it makes that big of a difference to sacrifice other stuff to get the perfect lineup

[gusty shore]

Like if your on second ven and shiv is ready right away but gemstones comes like half way though ven

I wonder which you would prioritse to dump charges

[stoic needle]

dumping charges in gemstones is the only way that necro is close to venthyr in single target

so it's pretty important

[gusty shore]

Wouldn't it be logical then to do it duing ma as a higher priority then ?

[slow marsh]

I mean sure

[gusty shore]

+50% rather than 18

[slow marsh]

as long as you're not capping, that would be the ideal setup

[stoic needle]

no not during ma

[gusty shore]

Why is that

[stoic needle]

the MA window is shorter

[gusty shore]

What does that change though

Once the dot is on

They are both basically instant damage

[stoic needle]

once the dot is up, mut is a better generator during MA because it gives more CP

[slow marsh]

I think in that instance more envenoms outweighs extra chance to crit with sbs

whereas you can still get crits with sbs during gems

either way

but idk

I get what you're saying

[gusty shore]

Your only ever getting 1 enven in the ma anyway right

[slow marsh]

but that would be more of a question for the man himself

[gusty shore]

I'm just curious to understand the distinction

If the cp is worth more from mut during crit buff

Wouldn't you then want to either mut for both or nether ?

[stoic needle]

you can get 2 if you get lucky with crits

[slow marsh]

The distinction is mostly towards extra mut cp > sbs dam

[stoic needle]

envenom > mut > envenom

[slow marsh]

Cuz you're literally doubling your cp generation

[gusty shore]

Doesnt it max at +4

[stoic needle]

yes, and sbs doesn't give 4 unless there are multiple targets with the dot

[slow marsh]

vs getting a little extra chance to crit on something that already has a good chance of critting

[gusty shore]

So would you 4cp enven then

Cause you wouldnt be able to get to 5

[stoic needle]

you prioritize SBS during gemstones because you're guaranteed to use mut during gemstones as well, and if you dont use it somewhere you will overcap

i'm talking about with vigor

[slow marsh]

I mean if you're running vig which you probably are then yeah

[gusty shore]

Nah ds

[slow marsh]

Have you simmed both

[gusty shore]

Yeah

If the logic is that mut is better during crit buff

THen wouldnt you want to use charges randomly outside of gem

And only mut during gem too

[slow marsh]

no

[stoic needle]

gem is a longer buff

you wouldn't have the energy to mut the whole gemstones window

the energy efficiency of sbs lets you do both

[gusty shore]

Ah so it comes down to an energy thing

Making the difference

[stoic needle]

law conduits?

[slow marsh]

you are using outlaw conduit

[gusty shore]

Wait wtf

Its not replacing

Ph

[slow marsh]

imo run the sim and link the whole sim not a screenshot

[gusty shore]

Oh

Emeni

[slow marsh]

so we can actually look at what it is

[gusty shore]

Wrong guy

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3JS4kifEE3UG3Yjj3h3jqS

[slow marsh]

that's weird DS is so much higher imo but

[gusty shore]

Its always been like that for me

Seems most on logs too

[slow marsh]

I mean I knew it was close at least

Most people go vigor for the feels since it's close

[gusty shore]

Maybe cause of high haste

[stoic needle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hT5Ck342xDdNdhMVNM4dbF

the last thing you linked didn't compare the talents properly

[gusty shore]

?

[stoic needle]

the last sim you linked

didn't compare the talents properly and had outlaw soulbinds

i fixed it for you and posted that new link which should be finished simming shortly

[gusty shore]

Not the top two

I know that fractures is the highest

[stoic needle]

still the comparison is between EP/vigor and BS/DS and you didn't sim that

also found some other gains from the gear in your bags

wait this is a dslice sim lol

[gusty shore]

You linked dungeon slice

[stoic needle]

hold on

[gusty shore]

The gems on my gear are wrong ik that

Outlaw gems

But I just did the sim to be fast

The haste would make vigor worse

[stoic needle]

haste gems/enchants sim best for necro sin regardless of talents and don't really change the value of the talents in relationship to eachother

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/47UdeQmtNYNwE9zmNqynp

BS/vigor is worse than EP/vigor at this point so that's why we compare bs/ds vs ep/vigor

[gusty shore]

My understand was haste making dots tick quicker and the base regen gives you more energy which devalues the energy regen of vigor

Could be completely wrong

idk

[stoic needle]

sure, but we aren't at that point yet

in next tier's gear we will run ep/deeper

check the sim i linked, ep/deeper is only 11 dps behind bs/ds for you

similar to me

and hateful chain is a little better than memory for you which makes sense because it's hasted

[gusty shore]

Ye

[balmy condor]

just btw I took a glance at sbs usage, and you happened to link some of your characters sims, so here's a sim comparing certain sbs usages. I don't really have an explanation for it cause I didn't look too hard, but it doesn't seem to matter too much https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/96qcsZ8QsCxU9rqKGew1qk

I'm guessing it's some thresholding jank

[gusty shore]

Would it be difficult to add sbs during ma

[balmy condor]

that's been shown to be a huge loss

but I can make that happen real quick

[gusty shore]

Does "sbs during vend/gem" not do it during gem outside ven ?

[balmy condor]

it casts during vend/gem unless it's about to overcap charges

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/st29CmMPydS2BEei8PfwQA

with MA

[gusty shore]

Interesting

[balmy condor]

I remember one of the first passes during beta

was to get SBS out of MA

and then eventually it was shown to be a gain to cast it with <0.8 seconds left on MA

(which only really happens when you're kinda starved and can't get anything else out)

so it was sort of a catch-all

so with heirmir it was just kinda casting it to prevent overcap

[gusty shore]

Is that string only casting it during ma strictly ?

[balmy condor]

which

[gusty shore]

~actions.direct+="/serrated_bone_spike,if=variable.use_filler&master_assassin_remains>0&(fight_remains<=5|debuff.shiv.up|cooldown.serrated_bone_spike.charges_fractional>=2.75|soulbind.lead_by_example.enabled&!buff.lead_by_example.up)"~

[balmy condor]

yeh

[gusty shore]

My though process it to still use if about to cap, and during gems outside ven

[balmy condor]

so that uses it if you have ma, and the other lines prevent it from overcapping

[balmy condor]

that's how it works atm

only difference is that it also casts on gems in vendetta

[hazy crater]

I think that line only makes it cast during MA no? because it's &

[gusty shore]

Yeah

Thats what i was thinking

[slim cipher]

Good Sin leggos to farm for 9.1?

[hazy crater]

You have to change the whole line to also prevent from overcap

[slim cipher]

I have the master one already

pvp wise

[gusty shore]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bXoXrVPHvsMYPYrswHvLhf

I changed it to also do it during gems

+3

[hazy crater]

[gusty shore]

Within margin

@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

yeah

that doesn't actually change the usage

you just got it back to the default usage

or at least it changes like

2 globals

[gusty shore]

It should use it with MA but not Gem

If that occurs

[hazy crater]

yeah but that probably doesn't really occur so

[balmy condor]

yeah the usage is pretty much identical

[gusty shore]

It should at the start of the vendettas right

Past the first

[balmy condor]

only real difference is that it does sbs snd sbs

instead of sbs snd mut

[gusty shore]

Ah right

Would need to get it to not do that

[hollow river]

How do you get to the strings?

[gusty shore]

Raw input

At the bottom

[hollow river]

Ah right so you have to find it in all that?

[balmy condor]

well that's 1 global, and the rest is still just the standard

[hollow river]

Looks like 95% of it is the base code of the class/spec

[balmy condor]

I think the lesson here is that it doesn't really matter that much

[balmy condor]

if you have a sim that looks like this where it says full html report

you can click on that

[gusty shore]

Yeah

Seems to not matter either way

[balmy condor]

can select something like here

and then profile

and it'll give you the raw input with the APL

[gusty shore]

Can get it here too

[balmy condor]

yeah that works too on advanced sims that already have it

[hollow river]

My page looks like this

[gusty shore]

Click the thing circled in red

[balmy condor]

if the sim didn't run with APL you won't be able to get it from the input

[gusty shore]

And modify the copies at the bottom

[balmy condor]

but the raw input in this case has it

[hollow river]

Ah I lied I have the full html as well

[balmy condor]

the full html would be for things like quick sims and top gear

where you don't already input the APL

the advanced sim here already has it

so you can pull it from there

also to note, if you're using a code editor, APL is similar to make

[hollow river]

(dot.serrated_bone_spike_dot.ticking*600),if=variable.use_filler&!dot.serrated_bone_spike_dot.ticking"

When MA is not at high duration, use SBS to apply Lead by Example during Vendetta, otherwise keep from capping charges

actions.direct+="/serrated_bone_spike,if=(variable.use_filler&master_assassin_remains>0)|(variable.use_filler&

[balmy condor]

and the actual engine and stuff is C++

in case you wanted to look at that

[dawn ivy]

whispyr why are you giving people the tools to their own destruction

[hollow river]

It has been a very long time since I’ve coded anything, and that was mostly simple web development/JavaScript

[balmy condor]

I've seen some uh, lets call it "out of the box thinkers" come up with some gains

more eyes on things is usually a good thing

we don't really need the eyes

tbh

but it's all opensource

so it's not detrimental or anything

if anyone needs help it's shamans/warrior/warlocks

those guys always need more hands

[stoic needle]

out of the box thinkers?

who

[balmy condor]

people I've flamed enough for their dumb shit

I'm reformed

[stoic needle]

[balmy condor]

if everyone around me stops saying stupid things

[gusty shore]

How would i check if vendetta is on target

[balmy condor]

I'm super reformed

[gusty shore]

Is it debuff.vendetta.up ?

[balmy condor]

yep

[stoic needle]

i'll never stop saying stupid things

sorry

[balmy condor]

yeah I've made my peace with that

[stoic needle]

[hollow river]

Youch

[teal bloom]

[balmy condor]

if you can't beat em, just become a frenchman and give up

[dawn ivy]

so hypothetically if the damage domination gems are actually powerful, we would need to craft dashing on cloak and drop doomblade wouldnt we

[balmy condor]

depends how powerful

but that timeline is a possibility

[hollow river]

Is spike not looking good for st?

[balmy condor]

I actually also see a possibility for duskwalker to be a good

[stoic needle]

oh really?

[hollow river]

O:

[balmy condor]

that ones a bit of a stretch

but that vend uptime, pretty decent

[stoic needle]

1 min vends are kinda stonks

[balmy condor]

all depends on what blizz decides to do with the gems

cause who fucking knows at this point

[hollow river]

Zoldy slots are also gonna be gemmed aren’t they

[balmy condor]

I don't think legs are

maybe they are

idk

[stoic needle]

legs aren't

for now.......

[balmy condor]

new maw rep allows adding domination sockets

get on the grind osh

[stoic needle]

[balmy condor]

but you can only socket every other item slot, on a thursday past 7pm when saturn is in retrograde

so

good luck

[stoic needle]

my analysis: bitch what the fuck

[balmy condor]

blizzard: "This is a compelling system that rewards the players with enough courage to brave the depths of the maw"

gating random nonsense behind more random nonsense

that's the shadowlands way

[hollow river]

[placid dawn]

before sire p3 should i dot remornia?

i mean before the phase starts

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

remoria becomes immune

or 99% or something

idk shits weird

either way she doesn't end up taking damage

but sbs stays for a little

and then disappears too

the transition from p2 into p3 makes for all sorts of weird interactions

[gusty mirage]

@balmy condor we need to make you a big time streamer so you don't have to go to work anymore

[balmy condor]

I thought you were working on multi millionaire

[gusty mirage]

I am

but I know you're a strong independent rogue who don't need no sugar daddy

[balmy condor]

I work 35 hours a week now

And finals are this and next week

[teal bloom]

10 days since Whispyrttv strim. I walk through the empty streets trying to think of something else but my path always leads to the stream. I stare at the screen for hours and try to summon the lord. I watch other asian girls streaming but it is no good. I flame Oshosi's ilevel 220 gloves in Ravenholdt and try to resist caring about secondary stats but it is all meaningless. The end is near. I then usually watch some old Whispyrttv vods and cry myself to sleep.

[gusty mirage]

first locked in koji's basement forced to sim stuff

now work & finals locking you away

[balmy condor]

Sim streams for 9.1

When blizzard decides on what 9.1 is