assassination

[cerulean nest]

been doing it as sub for that burst but feel like i'll overall be more useful as sin

[limber lion]

Sin actually does more burst in a small window like that.

Believe it or not.

Especially if you run EP/MFD.

[wet condor]

I want to switch to assa (was sub) and collected some haste versa gear. currently 25% crit. 15% haste and 19% versa gear. are these stats „good“? do I need more haste to be competetive?

[cerulean nest]

yeah seems like running EP is the move for that

[limber lion]

No, your stats are fine

[cerulean nest]

and then subterfuge you think?

[limber lion]

Stats do not matter at all.

Don't look at stats and think "Do I have enough of X?"

It does not matter.

You can be as competitive with 5% haste as much as with 20%

It only matters when you're at 225+ ilvl already.

[wet condor]

I am 224.5

[limber lion]

Yeah, doesn't matter.

I'm 15% haste and I'm doing pretty well.

[lean coral]

Yeh I'm around 15% haste sim like 6700 I think

[wet condor]

thx m8. at 4% haste it felt literally unplayable

[lean coral]

Are you venthyr

[wet condor]

much more fluid

not yet,
im nf

[limber lion]

Haste is much more in demand for non-Venthyrs, but I've never had more than 18% haste

And it's completely fine.

[lean coral]

Helps it feel better

When you get the haste proc plus flag haste when you use it

[cerulean nest]

subterfuge or MA for sun king?

[limber lion]

Just get everything to 226 and then start switching pieces for better stats using Top Gear on Raidbots

[limber lion]

Well it depends on your mission. If you're on shield duty, then MA is a lot better.

[lean coral]

I think some fae rogues still run vigor no?

[limber lion]

If you're there to only kill adds and whatnot, then Sub is better.

[cerulean nest]

ok cool ty

[limber lion]

Most NF do with lower haste levels.

[wet condor]

thank you guys for your help

[limber lion]

Good luck 🙂

Happy to help

[lean coral]

I never played fae rogue

Was kyrian

Then went venthyr when it got bugged

Buffed

[wet condor]

nf ability is like the most boring stuff ever

only soulshape is awesome

[lean coral]

Flag is hella fun in pvp

[limber lion]

It's pretty nice, I like it myself.

[wet condor]

really?

[lean coral]

But the haste procs in pve so nice

[limber lion]

Massive instant mastery buff and you get to play around with the Sepsis explosion

[lean coral]

Burst of energy

Wish door of shadows was better

[limber lion]

I've gotten used to Door

[lean coral]

Hands down worst cov ability

[limber lion]

I used to hate it when I first swapped to Venthyr from NF

Nah, Kyrian is the worst by far

Depends on the content you do tbh

[lean coral]

Especially after the fleshcraft buff

[limber lion]

For raids Kyrian is useless

But for PvP and M+ it's pretty decent.

[lean coral]

Idk it's a free health pot

[spice spire]

Door’s fine. But shapeshift was god tier

[lean coral]

I've used door of shadows like once in prog

[limber lion]

I'm actually getting a lot of use from Door in Sire.

I have to use it to get to the adds

[lean coral]

Still on slg

No lock?

[limber lion]

We use gateway for the first add

But we still have debuff from that for the second add

[lean coral]

Ah idk if havent gotten to do that one yet

We started slg last week

[limber lion]

It's a long road ahead of you my friend.

Hopefully not as long as mine was

I don't wish that upon anyone

Not even my worst enemy.

[spice spire]

That’s the Super OP part of door. Originally when we were progging through even normal - I had to door over to help them kill the add

[limber lion]

Yeaah, but it's pretty much made for that fight.

[spice spire]

Because I’m a masochist and went venthyr sin rogue when it was WiS all around

[limber lion]

It's very thematic to use the Venthyr ability in the Venthyr raid.

[lean coral]

Luckily I am sat

Cause we have way better cleave classes

[limber lion]

Good.

[spice spire]

Other than that, I guess during the suck for artificer?

[lean coral]

Everyone else hates me

[quasi grotto]

If my evenom buff is about to fall odd and I only have say 2 or 3 CP should I refresh? Or wait for optimal CP

[stoic needle]

When you're forced to use door it's pretty nice

[limber lion]

It's fine for quite a few bosses. Council to get to dance, Sire to get to adds/boss after knock back, Artificer sucky, Sun King because adds are all over the place

[limber lion]

No, you always only use Envenom at 4-5 CP with Vigor or 5-6 CP with DS.

The exception could be during Flag + Shiv but no hard proof of that being a gain has been provided for that yet.

[stoic needle]

I use it to get the shriekwing echolocations out, to go over to barghast to redot him, to get into place for the dance macabre, artificer suck, inerva geometry(super bis here), generals for wicked blades or to soak eruptions

To kill people on sludge

I think they did a decent job of giving you lots of uses for door in the raid

And it's really handy in m+

[limber lion]

It's busted in PvP as well with the disorient conduit.

[stoic needle]

Oh yeah that one is always funny

It also works as an extra kick

[limber lion]

I mean, nothing is ever as good as Soulshape

But all of the covenant abilities have their places.

[queen sonnet]

if door had no cast time

would be awesome.

[stoic needle]

If it was just a 1 or .5 second cast instead of 1.5 I would really love it

[limber lion]

Then it would literally be Soulshape that you cannot recast.

[storm forum]

familiar predicamanets + agent of chaos is such a good set up for pvp

[limber lion]

With a higher range

[stoic needle]

It used to have no cast time on the beta but apparently that was too strong

[spice spire]

I could see that being horrendous in PvP lmao

[limber lion]

Was pretty cool seeing Sire P3 today

This was the second night of progression and already seeing P3 is pretty cool

Just need to get there more consistently now :p

[lean coral]

Yeah Ive been upgrading zoldyck in preparation for it

And praying no one misses raid so I don't get dragged in for slg

[tribal mauve]

did you kill him ? 😄

[storm forum]

no, got to enrage sloppily, but probably just one or two more nights

[quaint phoenix]

do you guys go dauntless duelist as venthyr or double potency?

[limber lion]

Dauntless Duelist

[quaint phoenix]

ty mate

[limber lion]

[left briar]

How many pulls ?

[limber lion]

300

[left briar]

No

[limber lion]

Yes

[stable arch]

do you get all your followers back when you rejoin your old covenant?

[stoic needle]

Yep

[stable arch]

oh thats nice, so all you have to do is that shitty "quest chain" then

[gloomy fern]

why dont u just step to evershade

and then gate gloom or hit dusk

wasting precious time using bad ability

[prisma monolith]

Rikiboi: REPORT BUG FOR SND PREPULL PLS

[strange python]

The fk

[limber lion]

Woah

[balmy condor]

hm

I think fuu's april fools joke

is kinda poppin

[limber lion]

For sure.

[strange python]

Joke?

[compact wing]

How many envenoms should I be looking to get in after a shiv

[balmy condor]

as many as you can

if that's 0, unlucky

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: if that's 9, you've broken the game

[balmy condor]

anywhere in between is fine

[balmy condor]

thanks moroes

[limber lion]

Moroes kinda slaps today

[stoic needle]

[tidal gorge]

Moroes is jumpin' off the shovel today

[gusty mirage]

he's probably mad cuz he's still playing illusion spec

[fluid eagle]

!wa

[gusty mirage]

!was

[stoic needle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[gusty mirage]

wut

[limber lion]

Lul

[stoic needle]

Me and moroes have a special bond uwu

[compact wing]

I'm looking at some logs and it seems like a lot of rogues, or at least ones I'm looking at, are only casting 1 mut after their shiv for envenoms. Is it worth the low CP count to get as many envenoms in during the shiv or am I possibly reading the logs incorrectly?

[gusty mirage]

@stoic needle WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MOROES?

[stoic needle]

[limber lion]

Possibly. You want to use Envenom only at 5-6 CP.

Or 4-5 with Vigor.

[tidal gorge]

He just saw that you were crying so decided to console you with a list of weakauras

[prisma monolith]

Ceverion: They possibly crit with Mutilate to get to 5-6 combo points. ┻━┻

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

Interesting

[lost mist]

why are so many people playing EP+Vigor? i tried it, and it feels very comfortable and fluid but it sims lower than BS+DS. Should i follow my sim? idk if i really am doing more dps with BS+DS (that sims higher than EP+vigor)

[compact wing]

True, I was just seeing it a lot and thought it might be odd if multiple people throughout fights were getting super lucky with their crits during that phase

[prisma monolith]

oxi: Sims will rarely steer you wrong (❁´◡`❁)

[gusty mirage]

@prisma monolith leave me alone

[winter vapor]

does anyone know if weak aura's is able to correct give pandemic timers on rupture/garrote or is just a set time for each skill

[limber lion]

It's hard to say. EP/Vigor could be the play for the covenants other than Venthyr

But there's also some people who dislike DS

So when they use Vigor instead, they have to run with EP as well.

[lost mist]

me haha i hate having 4 cp and don't knowing what to do -.-

[limber lion]

Muti/gar/shiv :^)

[lost mist]

sure, but sometimes it just don't match

😢

[gusty mirage]

and that's alright

you just roll with the rng

Just keep in mind you finish at max-1 or max, (shiv even if at max btw if you're going to cap energy) and just roll with it

[lost mist]

yes, and that is what i dislike about DS

but without it is similar

when i have 3 cp haha

[heavy skiff]

EP is better on shorter fights

[storm forum]

cant win

[gusty mirage]

I think you're just overthinking it 🙂 don't worry too much about possibly wasting a CP or two getting to max w/ a mut or just refresh garrote early and shiv tbh

[lost mist]

i know how to play it, it is just that i dislike it x.x

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/UX342zUbLCYiGffHjLHMP
(that's the sim, like ~60 dps in between talents)

[limber lion]

Just gotta play more and you'll eventually get used to it.

:p

[lost mist]

❤️ 🙂

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion I'm half tempted to go necro, tell me not to

[limber lion]

Do it.

[gusty mirage]

but... @stoic needle will disown me

and I won't be able to use anymore

[stoic needle]

i'm tempted too >_>

really wish i was for this push week tbh

[gusty mirage]

same 😦

are we going to turn into stinky boys instead of staying vamps? @stoic needle

[stoic needle]

sbs looking kinda stonks rn i cant lie

[brittle pawn]

never

[gusty mirage]

ST dif is less than 200 dps too

[limber lion]

I might do the switch myself at some point.

But not yet.

You can take the bullet for me first

:^)

[gusty mirage]

oh captain my captain

[tidal gorge]

Can you imagine Maldraxxus as your home zone? Cause that's kinda gross

[prisma monolith]

oshosi: THOSE SWEET SWEET 15 ENERGY CP

[stoic needle]

[gusty mirage]

LOL

I think moroes is trying to tell us to switch necro

[brittle pawn]

how is moroes talking

[spice spire]

MOROES FOUND YOU OUT DOG. NL BEEN PAYING YOU UNDER THE TABLE THE WHOLE TIME

[stoic needle]

once upon a time i was necro

that was my original covenant

[gusty mirage]

he's become sentient

[limber lion]

Oh no

[spice spire]

And then you went to the worst covenant????

[limber lion]

We're losing them all one at a time

[prisma monolith]

Ceverion: I wonder if it's a shitshow still after I wake up

[gusty mirage]

is that whispyr?

[daring pecan]

no, it's fuu

[spice spire]

Mods trolling, everyone post

[gusty mirage]

shit this was easier as outlaw

[prisma monolith]

oxi: "VIGOR FEELS BETTER"

[storm forum]

[gusty mirage]

LOL

[spice spire]

OH NO

[tidal gorge]

EXSANGUINATE CAN WORK, YOU JUST NEED ENOUGH HASTE

[gusty mirage]

If you have 33.4783% haste exsang works

[prisma monolith]

Ceverion: My blessings to whomever tries to get actual help with their class on this cursed day.

oxi: IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT WORKS

[stoic needle]

exsanguinate gaming

[spice spire]

Lmfao

[thorny pond]

!mut

[prisma monolith]

Ambush is currently only used from blindside/sepsis proc, not from stealth.
The reasoning is a little complicated, but the most important of them is the difference in combo points on crit (up to 4 vs 3).
Some other factors to consider are increased poison applications, blindside, and doomblade. This is true for all talent combinations and legendaries.

[spice spire]

One of the mods cracked

[storm forum]

do you think that's fuu typing themselves or this like an adam/frankenstien situation?

[gusty mirage]

It's a script, it's taking things I type out and insta-claiming them

[stoic needle]

from what i've seen i think it's a bit of both

there's definitely some anti-whispyr messages that i think fuu typed

[gusty mirage]

Fuu is controlling my life

[limber lion]

Just take a look at #off-topic for more information.

But be warned

[thorny pond]

Magic Moroes, do I stack mastery?

[gusty mirage]

I'm purple now? Poggers

[tidal gorge]

Is purple Jump off the Shovel spec?

[gusty mirage]

yea

[lost mist]

?

[limber lion]

It's gucci guys

[high phoenix]

Why are my parses on slg so garbo? Something about cooldown timing I’m missing?

[limber lion]

We will always be red.

Wait, why is there so many purple dudes in the red boys channel

[thorny pond]

Are you damaging the immune boss?

[limber lion]

NO

YOU CANNOT TAKE THE RED FROM ME

[torn atlas]

Love me some purp

[gusty mirage]

PINK BOIS

[high phoenix]

I’m not using cool downs on him but if there’s nothing else to hit

[torn atlas]

Oh no

[tidal gorge]

I'm pink now? Like, that's so cool!

[storm forum]

today will go down in history

as the day fuu went insane

[gusty mirage]

all my messages in OT are getting insta deleted

[spice spire]

Fuu

[storm forum]

we need whispyr to get out of his raid or whatever and save the day

[spice spire]

No this is great wdym

[storm forum]

oh it's deleting my msgs in #off-topic too

[limber lion]

You're just not loud enough

[gusty mirage]

OH

[balmy condor]

fuu is the bot

[prisma monolith]

MakeitQuake: That’s kinda rude. (⌐■_■)

[spice spire]

Lmfao

[hollow escarp]

WTF

[storm forum]

omg fuu has become an android

[hollow escarp]

WHAT IS THIS COLOR?

[gusty mirage]

You salmon bois now

[limber lion]

It's the color of Assassination

[torn atlas]

It's lovely.

[limber lion]

... apparently.

[hollow escarp]

damn 1st of april

[brittle pawn]

hm

[spice spire]

Oh fuck

[brittle pawn]

blue boys where

[spice spire]

That’s right

It’s that day

[tidal gorge]

[hollow escarp]

I'm gonna take sub role just for color

[prisma monolith]

oxi: YOU MEAN THE ILLUSION ROLE?

[gusty mirage]

DAMNIT FUU

[hollow escarp]

[storm forum]

so is this a 24 hr thing or a "until all the clocks in the world read april 2nd" thing?

[gusty mirage]

It's still March 31st here 😦

[storm forum]

same, that's why I ask

its only like 7pm too

[spice spire]

I’d assume 24 hours? Lmao

[warm parcel]

Its 2 am here and like 10am already in somme places

So Id guess we go by EU

[thorny pond]

Give me the green boi

[gusty mirage]

So I don't get extra april fools time

[limber lion]

Yeh 2am here and I have to wake up at 7

But this is way too dank

Ugh

[gusty mirage]

today's the day the red rogue turned green @gray fjord

I WAS HERE FOR IT

[spice spire]

Go to sleep

[prisma monolith]

oxi: Yeah man, we'll handle the how-tos so you can get some rest ಠ_ಠ

[gusty mirage]

ty moroes

[warm parcel]

lol

[gray fjord]

🤮

[gusty mirage]

OH HE'S BURGANDY NOW

[spice spire]

Black now

[gray fjord]

Mine show's I'm black. xD

I can handle that.

[gusty mirage]

my eyes might be broken

[limber lion]

Black is pretty dope

[spice spire]

Is that burgundy? That shows hard black

[thorny pond]

Black like my parses

[gusty mirage]

I'll accept black, I'm a boomer it could just be my eyes

[gray fjord]

Literally like 90% of my shirts and jeans are black.

[gusty mirage]

but... you're the RED rogue

where's the red?

[gray fjord]

I have red shirts. ^^

[gusty mirage]

oh fair

[gray fjord]

Only a few though

[gusty mirage]

still counts

[spice spire]

On the blood of their enemies

That works too

[gray fjord]

I wanted that ragnaros hoodie from the blizz store so bad.

But they ran out of mediums T_T

[gusty mirage]

just break your bones until it fits, ez

[gray fjord]

https://www.blizzardgearstore.com/games/world-of-warcraft/mens-world-of-warcraft-ragnaros-full-zip-jacket/o-21497953+t-43725793+p-811743374+z-9-761550885?_ref=p-SRP:m-GRID:i-r0c0:po-0

This shit is awesome looking.

Off topic as heck, sorry, but off-topic is melting my brain and eyes.

[gusty mirage]

well off-topic has been hijacked, along with our colors

[limber lion]

That does look pretty sick

[gray fjord]

It has a mini Sulfuras for the zipper. xD I think technically it's the Sulfuron Hammer or whatever but still, it's sick. Small is just too small, I've tried before to make it work but it just isn't comfortable at all.

So I'm thinking of ideas for an april fool's thing

Trying to think of some memey, assassination specific ones.

[limber lion]

Are the RH ones giving any ideas? :p

[gray fjord]

Nah I pulled a ton out of thin air that I think will be hilarious. I'm making a better patch note joke video than Blizzard has in like 3 expacs, in my opinion. xD

[limber lion]

That sounds great!

[gray fjord]

Hoping it'll make for a good laugh, we'll see tomorrow I guess. ^^

[limber lion]

Fingers crossed!

I'm off to bed now, have fun with whatever this is

[gusty mirage]

I look forward to seeing it

good night @limber lion

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: WHAT DID I COME BACK TO

[limber lion]

Will be interesting to see if it has settled down at all or not. :p

[gray fjord]

For sure Oxi, I hope to have it ready for in the morning early. ❤️

Whispyr has been assimilated by Moroes, oh great.

[balmy condor]

only sometimes

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: :P ╰(°▽°)╯

[balmy condor]

@vestal wren I swear to god

[gray fjord]

I'm impressed the server hasn't literally just broken from the madness.

[limber lion]

I think the green on CF is a bit boring

I think they could use a new color

[gusty mirage]

lmao a great last troll before you go to bed

[prisma monolith]

Sai: GUESS YOU'RE THE BLACK BANDIT NOW.

Zeratüle (The Red Rogue): That's a killer name, actually. xD ┻━┻

[vast patio]

WHAT IS GOING ON

[prisma monolith]

Zeratüle (The Red Rogue): I have no clue (❁´◡`❁)

[gusty mirage]

It's April Fuul's Day

[gray fjord]

T_T

[vast patio]

NO IT ISN'T

[balmy condor]

it is in EU

[vast patio]

What the hell is an eu

is that a kind of fruit

[gusty mirage]

yes

you consume it ingame and it gets you 400 more dps

[vast patio]

Is this why pilav is so strong

is this why pshero is a greek god

[gusty mirage]

YES

sorry had caps on from OT

[arctic walrus]

@balmy condor 2 on uses

i do anything special

[umbral slate]

Does the zoldyck lego buff Zandalari troll racial bleed? 🤔

[arctic walrus]

or just full send fuck it yolo 420

[limber lion]

Yes use memory 15s pre pull

[balmy condor]

stats with vend, otherwise send it

[limber lion]

ez

Rip Whisp

[balmy condor]

I'm a totem

[arctic walrus]

raid spot secured

[limber lion]

Lmao

These colors are actually kinda fucking me up

[gusty mirage]

Vel = windfury now

[limber lion]

Alright, actually gonna go to bed now. Good night :p

[gusty mirage]

Good night sir!

[dire spoke]

oh no

me thinks

I'm in the wrong channel

[twilit flax]

Anyone else getting a bug where Shock Barrier and Glimmer of Light pull you out of stealth?

[gusty mirage]

What soulbind are you playing?

[twilit flax]

Theotar

[gusty mirage]

It might be the last row shield ability with theotar that’s doing it

[twilit flax]

ahhh

Yep, it's Theotar

[icy crater]

!bis

as it should be

[clever vapor]

Fellas, in order to parse well on council, do I need to dot cleave all targets, or just nuke the main one as if I'm playing single target?

[balmy condor]

dot all

[storm forum]

well, kind of, iirc damage that's healed by the other bosses is removed from wcl

[twilit flax]

I assume you'd want to dot for the extra energy?

[balmy condor]

you still want to dot them, since it increases priority damage

[storm forum]

yeah, you wanna apply one or two extra DoTs to the other bosses for energy

[balmy condor]

garrote and rupture on 1 extra boss seems to be a good idea

any more than that and you start running into downtime trying to run around and dot things

unsure if that's worth

but usually the boss you're hitting + the boss that's stacked on it

is solid

[storm forum]

probably do it on nicolaus too, cause stavros sometimes does his annoying jump thing when you wanna try to DoT him

[warm parcel]

The dotting others is only an increase if you do it well tho

[balmy condor]

yeh

[warm parcel]

And there can be a few plates to shuffle on council

So depending on your level of comfy, just ignoreing others might work out better

Like make sure not to drop garr from MT

Or when you gotta swap the attes

[balmy condor]

^

[warm parcel]

But yea in theory its better to dot them all

[wide ridge]

we're starting M council prog today, did yall go doomblade or zoldyck?

[balmy condor]

doom

[strange python]

Whis why is your name white now wtf

[balmy condor]

its april fools

the whole server is boned

you have the shadow color

[strange python]

Oh yeah

[prisma monolith]

BologneseBandit: I SAW THE TOTEMS

[storm forum]

cause fuu has merged with moroes into an android and it's causing some problems

[strange python]

Omg

It’s watch g me

[low girder]

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[strange python]

Shaman is kinda pog tho so if I was forced to be anything im cool being the avatar

[drowsy coral]

@limber lion @balmy condor Thanks to both of you guys for all the infos on Huntsman MM and EP/Subt/Vigor/CT build, I was able to parse at 97ilvl/83total for a first time with this build. You're kings

[balmy condor]

gotchu homie

[burnt lynx]

Hey just working on my rogue alt this week. What first lego do you guys recommend? I know a few are from torghast that aren't here this week

[prisma carbon]

should i be blowing my cds immediately on denathrius? i feel like half of my vendetta is wasted bc of first blood price

[balmy condor]

MA is a solid option, it's okay in single target, good in m+, great in pvp, and works for all specs

[strange python]

What’s this huntsman build?

[balmy condor]

yup

[balmy condor]

basically just m+ build

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: EP SUBT, VIGOR/MFD, CT

[balmy condor]

cause it's 2 target

and blindside/deeper is only good on 1 target

[burnt lynx]

I was thinking that one. I'm only gonna be playing assas but this is the easiest one to get his week it seems

[strange python]

With doom?

[balmy condor]

with doom, yeah

[strange python]

Nice

I’ll try it in hc ty

[balmy condor]

@limber lion you're sleeping, remember

[limber lion]

No problem, hope to see more blasting!

[prisma monolith]

moroes: phren: GO HOME RETAIL, YOU ARE DRUNK (⌐■_■)

[balmy condor]

[strange python]

The bot is on one

[limber lion]

The ping baited me back, I'm off now

[odd tapir]

retail vs classic ?

[strange python]

Dat ammo

[odd tapir]

even with a reload 😄

[strange python]

I just remembered we used to buy throwing knives

And just had a throw ability 😹

[balmy condor]

you can still do that

the throw ability just won't consume them

:)

[pastel shale]

Is there any reason EP sims higher than Blindside when I compare for patchwerk? 235 shoulder doomblade

[balmy condor]

probably not doing single target, or you're not using deeper strat

[pastel shale]

Yeah i had vigor

Is DS the ST talent? I thought we went 3/3/1

[balmy condor]

sim blindside+deeper on top of that

just

for reference

[pastel shale]

Yeah, I'm necro at 16% haste and didn't know what constituted "decent"

jesus i cant even imagine this spec with 50 less energy

[stoic needle]

You get used to it

[strange python]

Looking at the huntsman logs I don’t really see anything other than the ST build at the top

[dawn ivy]

i certainly pray something pushes us to more haste/dashing scoundrel

[balmy condor]

??????????

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr:

[balmy condor]

mother

fuck

it's 75% EP

[prisma monolith]

moroes: BologneseBandit: Soz (⌐■■) (⊙⊙;)

[strange python]

I’m on my phone

Stfu moroes

[dawn ivy]

is moroes just spitting out someones message history

[balmy condor]

no

[strange python]

yes

[balmy condor]

it deletes random messages

[pastel shale]

im theorycrafting

[balmy condor]

and reposts them

[dawn ivy]

lmfao

[balmy condor]

that's a scary sentence

[pastel shale]

FR

[balmy condor]

I'm so lost I don't even know who @strange python is

[lethal magnet]

any fight or timing where pi on rogue would be optimal? maybe 2nd pillar sludge

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: ZOLD SIRE P3

[strange python]

im foreverguy

[balmy condor]

you see

that's what I thought

but foreverguy is foreverguy

[strange python]

is he

[warm parcel]

Guy is too old for this shit

[strange python]

IS HE

[balmy condor]

and I don't have a message history with you

so that means

it's not vaughn

or guy

are you solo

[warm parcel]

A confirming silence

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: the fact that the discord tag is different (⊙_⊙;)

[balmy condor]

is just

wild

[strange python]

[warm parcel]

You can change your tags

[stoic needle]

Nothing is stopping you from using dashing right now

[dawn ivy]

having to compete requires you to put yourself in the best position available

[nocturne ridge]

does cloak / evasion so anything for mythic sire knock

[balmy condor]

no

[nocturne ridge]

so wack

[balmy condor]

is it?

[nocturne ridge]

extremely

[balmy condor]

seems fine to me

[nocturne ridge]

i mean its fine but it's just weird that it works on heroic

and not mythic

[balmy condor]

it doesn't work in heroic

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: YOU CAN'T IMMUNE THE KNOCKBACK ON ANY DIFFICULTY

[nocturne ridge]

am i trippin

[storm forum]

iirc the only thing you can immune the knockback with is that bastion toy

[edgy cosmos]

anyone getting a bug with flag and not getting haste stacks?

[nocturne ridge]

nah bro

you can immune it with cloak on heroic

[strange python]

Is it worth flaging after vend

[nocturne ridge]

im 1000% sure

[strange python]

I was trying to get used to it all night and kept forgetting to pot

[nocturne ridge]

unless im just dodging it?

dont think that's a thing though?

[agile geode]

I saw all sin rogue are all venthyr on parse, do you think ill loss much dps if i switch to necrolord?

[prisma monolith]

Xell: WOULD LIKE TO CUZ I WANT TO PLAY OUTLAW FOR M+

[agile geode]

What s this threachery?

[arctic walrus]

@balmy condor council spread bleed y/n

[shy dust]

yes

[arctic walrus]

gar/rup x2 or

[balmy condor]

yes

[arctic walrus]

oh shit

is the attendant gonna fuck up opener

[agile geode]

Wait for vendetta on first attendant

[warm parcel]

ask your boomies to send the atte to another universe with convoke

[arctic walrus]

we do got 3

[brittle pawn]

asking boomies to do anything

youre gonna ahve a bad time

[agile geode]

Is like 10 second

Seconds

[warm parcel]

they can convoke it before it reaches boss

quite easily

[arctic walrus]

okay i trust

[agile geode]

You wontloss that much if you use vendetta after 10 seconds

Dot the boss kill the attendant and go for all cds

[warm parcel]

Suppose that works too

[wide ridge]

should I pop everything on M frieda on pull or wait for the add to spawn and die?

feels like that fucker fucks my shit

[agile geode]

Read what i wrote

[wide ridge]

o

[agile geode]

Just wait to pop vendetta

Ive done like this

Attendant will spawn in a bit and it Will get fired in 0.1 at inc

[wide ridge]

holy shit that's much better

thank you sir

[agile geode]

Npnp

[shut pollen]

we killed it right tnoight after struggling for 1 week. Usually u open bleed up the attendant spawns u dot 1 of the other 2 and when u are back on Frida the attendant should be dead so ua re free to pop all the cds

[arctic walrus]

yeah dawg it's all good I thought the attendant clears debuffs off the boss

[stoic needle]

infexious must be stopped man this is outrageous

[shut pollen]

soothing shade?

[arctic walrus]

@shy dust I got boots

[stoic needle]

soothing shade is good

[shut pollen]

ohhh the mastery proc. The umbrella thingy okok. Yeah he was prolly trying the build for plusses

[stoic needle]

yeah but he was foking on 3 target dummies when he should have been mutilating, poisoned katar doesn't change that

[shut pollen]

lucky you I got absolutely nothing despite 2 of my bis dropping there. Also quite sad we got 2 trash trinkets in the raid that got pretty much straight into the trash bin

[prisma monolith]

PeterR: any more tips here? (first time as sin on this boss) ಠ_ಠ

PeterR: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FfcJHaG2r4CyRwNP#fight=last&type=casts&source=6 (⊙_⊙;)

[balmy condor]

seems fine

[shut pollen]

fok is actually right since after triple garrote u need to apply poison for venomous wounds to proc and transition into crimsom tempest

[balmy condor]

no it isn't

you don't fok on 3

[prisma monolith]

Eruza: IF IT'S FOR COMBO POINT GENERATION IT'S NOT IF IT'S TO PUT UP DEADLY POISON IT SHOULD BE OR?

Whispyr: okay ┻━┻

[balmy condor]

I want you to read

very slowly

if you have 3 targets

you do not fok

[shut pollen]

ups sorry caps

[balmy condor]

nah that's just the bot

[warm parcel]

its not caps its the bot

[stoic needle]

i just turned back around and he's mutilating they grow up so fast

[warm parcel]

Also not to be a party pooper

APL does use fok to refresh poisons at 3

Still muts as the cp gen outside offtargets losing poisons

At 2 it instead tabmutilates the offtargets

[balmy condor]

are you sure it doesn't tab mut on 3

[warm parcel]

Fan of Knives to apply poisons if inactive on any target (or any bleeding targets with priority rotation) at 3T```

[balmy condor]

oh its >=3

not >3

[warm parcel]

Tab-Mutilate to apply Deadly Poison at 2 targets

[balmy condor]

well

I would like to test that tbh

[warm parcel]

In a 5min quicksim at 3T bot fokked 21 times

So not that often

I havent really played assa on mutitarget so I have no feelcraftian for this

[balmy condor]

we shall see

I could've sworn it tabbed on 3

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tRaNm318xvswNPg6sncagg

bruh

[warm parcel]

[shut pollen]

same in plus I usually go outlaw. The answer I gave was actually knowledge I've acquired watching guides for assa mythic plus. Don't remember if it was infexious

[warm parcel]

Im just pasting the apl for ya

Dont blame me

I mean to me 5man content is largely feelcraftian

I know folks hate it

But thats my take on m+

[drifting ingot]

I'm a big dummy but these conduit icons don't seem to match what's live rn?

[balmy condor]

apl suck you heard it here first

[warm parcel]

Write a better one then

Ive tried working on it many times

Its a pain

[shut pollen]

agree I have some trouble finding a consistent way to simm for multi and dungeon slice is unreliable. For the most part I check up high end raider io players

[balmy condor]

I just did

[prisma monolith]

wEak: Now go pull request it 👌

[balmy condor]

oh that's way too much work

[warm parcel]

And going by what high players do is also what some hate

Cause high players sometimes feelcraft way on their own

[prisma monolith]

wEak: Idno (⌐■_■)

[warm parcel]

I have no real opinion on whats absolutely better and whats not

[shut pollen]

yeah that's why u just have to check up multiples and copy the common parts xD

[warm parcel]

I suppose

[fathom swift]

is the fok on >3 just tied to doomblade

cause thatd be pretty easy to check and add to the apl

also as someone who previously had 0 idea how to use github pull requesting apl changes is actually incredibly easy

[icy crater]

@gusty mirage

we IN it

[rapid stratus]

Do you single pot M Sludge? or pot pull and at 5 min

[balmy condor]

I know how to do it, I'm just way too lazy

and make koji do it

[tribal summit]

would it be better to hold pots for post-pillar burn phases on Sludge?

[warm parcel]

I mean foking could maybe be looked at

[balmy condor]

no

you pot for pillar

[warm parcel]

But thats just trial and error that someone would have to do

Likely poor Koji if noone else is up to do it

[prisma monolith]

IPoD_Max: pot 4th pillar with lust is wat i do

[balmy condor]

it's possible it's a doomblade thing I guess

Idk

I'll take a look

[warm parcel]

I mean obviously stuff like doom and katar affect it

Now question only remains if it matters enough for target counts to change

[balmy condor]

it historically hasn't

but also no one ran doom, and no one ran katar

[pliant sorrel]

THE WHITE

I HATE IT

[warm parcel]

Yeah popularity of whatever is being played plays a role in all of it

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: the results are weird

[balmy condor]

katar is actually swinging it quite hard seems like

[stoic needle]

could the guy in my sanctum have been right?

[gusty mirage]

grats man! 😄

[balmy condor]

depending on the combination, I guess maybe?

it's actually quite muddy

I think it's harder to see the difference in dungeonslice in this case

but on sustain 3 targets, it seems like:
doomblade = mut on 3
katar = fok for poisons only on 3
doomblade + katar = either or

[civic knot]

on mythic sludge, top logs got EP and Vigor, should i be running that or whatever sims highest for patchwerk 5 min

[balmy condor]

kinda not sure tbh

[civic knot]

EP and vigor feel nice i will say]\

[balmy condor]

if I had to guess, EP and MFD would be better

[civic knot]

but idk if its better or not than blindside and vigor or BS and DS

[pliant sorrel]

MFD MA EP NIGHTSTALKER

XD

xdddd

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: DOUBTFUL THAT BUILD STILL IS THE WAY TO GO

[icy crater]

anddddd sat on sludge

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: doomblade is just better (⌐■_■)

Jordan (Siggy): fuck my guild

[balmy condor]

sitting a sin rogue on sludge is questionable tbh

[icy crater]

over a warrior and udk

[warm parcel]

Trust me rogues trash

[icy crater]

I even help call mechanics and offer feedback and they both haven't said a word in discord in weeks

[red bloom]

we're trash, plz buff 50 %

[warm parcel]

Idno how much better dk is

But rogue sure as hell aint hot on sludge

[prisma monolith]

wEak: AND WARRS REQUIRED FOR SHOUT

Jordan (Siggy):

[icy crater]

fuck u moroes

[balmy condor]

nvm kek

[icy crater]

assa is good on sludge?

[balmy condor]

3rd best melee

[icy crater]

esp when our dk isn't getting pi

[balmy condor]

seems ok

[warm parcel]

To me being 3k below any of the ranged specs isnt hot

[balmy condor]

yeah I agree

[warm parcel]

Again, I wouldnt say dk is much better

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: BUT DOUBTFUL A GUILD GETTING TO SLUDGE PROG ATM

[warm parcel]

But like rogue is bad on it

[balmy condor]

has that option

[icy crater]

just say melee is bad on it

that's really what you're saying

[balmy condor]

yeh

[prisma monolith]

wEak: Feral and enha arent bad tho (⊙_⊙;)

[warm parcel]

Enha especially can pump

[balmy condor]

can they pump harder than a sin rogue

cause data says no

[icy crater]

idk only 145 enha parses

they could be #1 overall if a good player plays it

amirite

[balmy condor]

yeah thats why I ask

[warm parcel]

Yall dont have papa Jö playing enh

So Idno

leme find a log

[prisma monolith]

Jordan (Siggy): WE ALSO DONT HAVE AN ENH SO ITS KIND OF MOOT ANYWAYS

[balmy condor]

[icy crater]

literally 3 melee, rogue warrior and dk

[warm parcel]

Eeh he was only 7.1 compared to my 6k

[pliant sorrel]

I WAS 7% AWAY FROM PLAYING SIN AGAIN SLG IS TERROR

[warm parcel]

Okay still not nearly as good as a lock

[icy crater]

so

I'm saying like a motorcycle is faster than a pick up truck

and you're saying bring lambos

[prisma monolith]

wEak: Rets are also great on it (⌐■_■)

[icy crater]

lambos have nothing to do with motorcycles and pickup trucks

[red bloom]

yes bring the lambos

[warm parcel]

Thats the truth chief

Having to pick between 2 pieces of trash

They still trash

[icy crater]

right

but you pick the better trash

[warm parcel]

No matter how much you go polishing them

I wouldnt say rogue beats dk

[prisma monolith]

wEak: Dks more durable too ಠ_ಠ

[icy crater]

fair but in this specific context I bring more to the raid than the dk even if our dps is comparable

so my garbage is shinier

[warm parcel]

Rogue doesnt bring anything tho

Unless you count the poison

[swift sedge]

question on mythic council...should i be trying to keep up at least rupture on the other bosses for energy regen or is it not worth it (on prog)

[prisma monolith]

Jordan (Siggy): me as a person (⊙_⊙;)

[icy crater]

not my class

[warm parcel]

Well thats subjective

[icy crater]

not really

[arctic venture]

guys

[red bloom]

you got sat though so they obv dont think so

[icy crater]

you can have an objectively better raider than someone else

[arctic venture]

opening for sin, master assasson?

[icy crater]

given their in game performance is the same

[warm parcel]

Alright whatever

[arctic venture]

guys? what is the opening for sin (master assassin)? necrolord.

not feeling im doing it right.

[prisma monolith]

Kitzlig: JUST TO CHECK OUT

[light surge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[rancid blaze]

So Zoldyck for M+? The sim has me using Doomblade. Confused a bit

[balmy condor]

that's pretty weird

[rancid blaze]

yeah im just using the the normal D slice sim and it has me using doomblade hahaha not sure if im doing something wrong

[balmy condor]

link it

[rancid blaze]

one sec

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wFsS7EEK3hd4e2sseAoxLx

[warm parcel]

225 lego 203 gloves

[prisma monolith]

wEak: vs 235 lego 226 pants (⊙_⊙;)

[warm parcel]

youre missing out on over 30 ilvl

[rancid blaze]

oh shit yeah i didn't think about that

[drifting cloud]

60 dps difference and losing prolly 150 on stats

maybe even more tbh that was a guess

[gusty mirage]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

moroes: moroes: Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group) ༼つ◕_◕༽つ

[safe barn]

Guys

2 questions

Is it better to cast Shiv on the beginning of the rotation or at the end? Like, 0 cps > shiv or 4 cps > shiv?

Is it ok to delay the Flag to line up with vendetta+trinket?

[balmy condor]

neither, cast on cd

[balmy condor]

only if you won't miss a cast

[safe barn]

respecting the dots rule i assume

[safe barn]

i meant like, 30s or something like that

[balmy condor]

yeah, so only if you won't miss a cast

[safe barn]

thanks

wth happened with the colors

[balmy condor]

april fools

[tawdry falcon]

are ST and MT stat priorities the same?

[balmy condor]

roughly

[tawdry falcon]

i figured

[balmy condor]

crit/mast is slightly better, haste/vers slightly worse

[strange python]

I miss green whispyr

[balmy condor]

I just miss the color green

[tawdry falcon]

For council, should i be doting up another target for additional energy regen?

[balmy condor]

yes

rup and gar

[tawdry falcon]

10-4! Thank you

[prisma monolith]

Tato: wha, yall are white ╰(°▽°)╯

[sweet rampart]

....

no more green

i dunno what to do with my life now

[balmy condor]

it'll go back to normal tomororw

XD

or I guess the day after

depending on where you are

[spice spire]

I’ve never seen the color green

[prisma monolith]

Tulnar: What is this nonsense about colors being gone?

[loud niche]

what the

[strange python]

green just looks so good on you 😔

[spice spire]

Mine was a colorblind joke

[coral imp]

!oils

!oil

[prisma monolith]

Using consumables will increase your damage, however the difference between oil/stone/potion combinations are very minor (within 0.5% of each other). You can sim the difference for yourself by pasting this pastebin underneath your /simc input, in the "advanced sim" section of raidbots: https://pastebin.com/Lbxc7afJ

[indigo mulch]

Did anyone see what happend to the DK discord? They turned into a weeb/sylvanasfanclub D:

[torn atlas]

Gross

[balmy condor]

Okay and what are they now

[prisma monolith]

moroes: ChimChim: GOOD QUESTION D;

[indigo mulch]

wtf lol

[balmy condor]

Ah yes

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: Welcome to our April fools

[balmy condor]

It’s less of an April fools

And more of just unleashed chaos

[indigo mulch]

lul

[soft shale]

chaos not contained

our deadly poison went too far into our head

[indigo mulch]

btw, whispyr. Do you have a list of the gear used for the sims? D:

[soft shale]

noxious fumes

[balmy condor]

You mean a bis list? Nice try buddy

[indigo mulch]

Damn

Close.

If it wasent for those kids and that dog i would have gotten away with it.

[slow marsh]

Wait what happened to the green

[cerulean nest]

had 95%+ uptimes on my bleeds tonight, second night on sin. felt good

[slow marsh]

Why are colors weird now

[indigo mulch]

He got demoted to totem.

[balmy condor]

April fools

[slow marsh]

oh

I should've known

We are the shammy sub now?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[slow marsh]

Sick

[prisma monolith]

Varas: can i be resto then?

[teal bloom]

Is Phial op for all melee classes? It sims like 50dps over same ilevel memory of past sins and I don't even need to worry about on use lol

[balmy condor]

Yeah

It’s pretty good

[slow marsh]

Memory doesn't sim well because it requires multiple users for it to ramp

[balmy condor]

Nah

[slow marsh]

But yeah phial is better

[balmy condor]

Memory just isn’t as good as others

The multiple users thing isn’t that big

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: Cabalist and the slg Vers trinket are the two main “stacking” trinkets

[teal bloom]

good bot

[slow marsh]

I just see a lot of rogues on logs using memory but seems like they are cheesing it for parses

[balmy condor]

It’s just a very easily acquired trinket

[limber lion]

No

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: NOT CAUSE IT’S GOOD

[limber lion]

Memory is one of our strongest trinkets

What are you on about

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr: It’s really not ಠ_ಠ

[limber lion]

It's lit af

[balmy condor]

It’s like barely top 5

[limber lion]

Yoy press and boom big damage

[balmy condor]

Phial dreadfire chain iqd

And then it’s like memory/skulk/ooze

[fallow otter]

Hahaha wut

[slow marsh]

I see more memory phial than i do memory skulker

[prisma monolith]

Stunkei: Can you explain what you mean by memory cheese

[fallow otter]

Sidenote, I feel like I'm the last person on earth that still doesn't have a vault phial

[prisma monolith]

moroes: KUBU: GOT VAULT PHIAL ON BOTH ALTS NOT ROGUE SO I’M WITH YOU ╰(°▽°)╯

[arctic cloud]

Oh ok

[prisma monolith]

Kubu: CHEERS MECHAMOROES

[teal bloom]

I have 213 phial, I am bad and can't upgrade to 220 😦

[fallow otter]

@arctic cloud i havent seen it on any toon

[fallow otter]

If 220 was an upgrade I would get but it's not, ineed dat vault luck

[manic harness]

Hi friends

[balmy condor]

[prisma monolith]

Lunareste: So I 100% went and joined the Sylvanas fan library aka DK Discord

[manic harness]

Sylvanas and anime all in 1 place? Sign me the fuck up

[arctic cloud]

I had surgery yesterday on my WASD hand. Life is difficult 🥲

[manic harness]

1. Buy ddr mat

2. Wasd with that

3. ???

4. Profit!

[fallow otter]

Wut is this sorcery... Looks like whisp

[cerulean nest]

so fan of knives applies "active poisons"

does that mean just deadly and numbing when i have them on

[gloomy fern]

Yes, if ur lucky enough

[dusky orbit]

Can anyone explain how to aoe with master assasin legendary as assa rogue?

[balmy condor]

What talent are you running

Subt or ns

[dusky orbit]

Subt

I've found it easy to dps on single target but i'm struggling on aoe

[torn atlas]

Mmmm memory cheese 🤤

[limber lion]

Memory cheese is where you press memory, the best trinket in the game, and top the charts

You press it and all of your groups Boomies damage starts counting as your damage instead

It's kinda litty

[cyan kite]

does blind count as valid cc for stacking on the shades of bargast?

[limber lion]

Yes

[limber lion]

Also one time I was killing Huntsman and I pressed memory and it spawned Argus as my pet to smite the fools

Kinda weird how I haven't seen the Aggramar proc yet though :O

But for reals though, Memory is just a really easy trinket to get at 226 when compared to stuff like the SLG trinket or Dreadfire, and a 226 memory beats those at 220 ilvl.

[round harbor]

True

[limber lion]

The memory cheese is using it in pre-pull, allowing you to use double on-use trinkets

[round harbor]

Wth why am I lime

I hate it

[limber lion]

Or even possibly just getting a second or third use of it

[limber lion]

At least lime is better than pink

[subtle tundra]

226 memory beats 233 slg trinket for me

[limber lion]

Wouldn't be surprised. It was in favor of Herald before 9.0.5's trinket update iirc

[fallow otter]

Im a memory skulkers boi

But that's coz i suck at vault phials

[shy dust]

Fuck memory

Embrace Iqd

[fallow otter]

Hahaha iqd can eat a bag of dicks, no thanks

[compact pumice]

220 phial tho

[fallow otter]

If you mean phial, it's a downgrade

226 or bust for me

[fallow otter]

Rae no drop luck?

[muted ridge]

Is there any set Haste that I need for DS being good?

I mean it sims higher it's just that gameplay is so slower compared to Vigor

[simple python]

As an Assa rogue do I have to leg to stand to ask for PI’s in my raid, I don’t get any currently and I top our meter, yet we have a frost dk and enhance shaman getting 2-3 a fight.

[compact pumice]

I sim 226 Memory as 0.6% downgrade in ST and 0.3% worse in Dslice

[compact pumice]

I mean you should get it over the Enh Shaman at that point

But there might be better targets, like a Unholy DK during army

[arctic harness]

Do Frost DK's even raid?

It really is April Fools

[simple python]

We do have a funky comp...

[shy dust]

No I have it

It’s just significantly worse

[fallow otter]

Yeh it's busted for sin

Rogue *

[compact pumice]

I would love to see how you sim 220 Phial as worse though

[fallow otter]

Im a ww

April fools

Huge upgrade if I hit it on my 222rogue

[compact pumice]

But if you constantly top the meters just say "hey, look at damagemeters!" but sounds like the Enh Shaman is best friends with a priest or something because I'm wondering what conclusion they would have landed in in giving him it otherwise

[arctic harness]

PI turning raiding into House of Cards

[subtle tundra]

i honestly think people make PI more of an issue than it actually is

as long as the person who's getting it isnt dogshit, its fine

or a tank/healer

[quiet valley]

There are probably better ranged targets for PI either way? Guess it depends a bit on boss as well

[fallow otter]

You take that back, traitor

[limber lion]

I'm considering making Deathly Shadows for Sludge

[fallow otter]

Do you remember the Nike slogan

[prisma monolith]

MTVCRIBS: @subtle tundra TRY DK WITH PI AND NO PI

MTVCRIBS: WTF

Ceverion: Rip

[limber lion]

Oh no

[sullen pagoda]

o ye april fools

my guild finally managed to reclear sire poggers

[prisma monolith]

MTVCRIBS: GOT TRINKET

[limber lion]

Eyy nice, grats

[sullen pagoda]

i even logged dk for slg i was like ill carry this just give me that sire kill on rogue already xddd

[limber lion]

Damn. I can't wait to kill it and get nothing. But I guess that's fine on the first kill :p

Second night progressing yesterday, made it to P3 once.

[prisma monolith]

Ceverion: Definitely a fun boss when compared to the shit that was slg

Mtvcribs: dude u shouldve seen our kill yday legit everyone died and shaman ankhd just before last person died and boss dies to dots

[sullen pagoda]

https://i.imgur.com/AWwp0p8.png our boss dmg p3 was bad af

most ppl below 5k xd

[limber lion]

Daaamn good thing Shaman had ankh then xd wiping there would have been rough

[torn atlas]

We wiped on Sire and the Venth DH tank got the kill from death explosion like 3 seconds after.

[sullen pagoda]

yeah been month and a half since our first kill and this is our first reclear xdddd

[limber lion]

Funny how you can still make the P3 dps check with people doing less than 5k

Welp

I thought it would be a lot tighter

[sullen pagoda]

yeah boss is really forgiving now

last phase is basically just live and its dead

[limber lion]

Yeaah

Gotta get the movement down and not die to the overlaps

[sullen pagoda]

getting there in 2 nights is really good u guys can even kill it next raid

[grave cove]

Necro gang, you guys going Emeni or Heirmir for m+?

[digital ravine]

i think emenir is the go to

[prisma monolith]

Grizzled: from the reclear we have had I felt like p2 big add timings were a bigger issue than p3

[patent topaz]

if you get into p3 clean it was easy

[limber lion]

Sick! I can't wait, actually hyped to progress it

[patent topaz]

our biggest issue was people inting in p2

[prisma monolith]

Grizzled: we only needed a few p3 pulls to kill (╯°□°）╯︵

[sullen pagoda]

yea p2 is always "lets discuss who uses cds on which add" on ranged groups cuz they always lack dmg somehow, we do 2 > 2 tactic

[patent topaz]

im on gloomveil where I cloak the hand and pop my cds

[limber lion]

Yeah we had a few pulls where people just didn't know where to go and when

[prisma monolith]

Ceverion: But after doing it a few times, it's getting better every time.

GRIZZLED: IDK PEOPLE ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT GETTING GRIPPED INTO SWIRLIES AND OTHER SHIT LIKE THAT

[patent topaz]

never happened to me

[shadow pivot]

holy fuck

the notification discord icon is some kind of insane April fools joke?

[reef vine]

oh well played

[shadow pivot]

Im done.. been scrolling up n down not understanding tf happened

[prisma monolith]

Theff: xD