assassination

[onyx cove]

thats denathrius btw

[stoic needle]

You don't want to do this, you won't be able to see anything in multi target situations

Like it's good to track dots on nameplates, but not as bars

[frail fossil]

i mean i saw boomkinds and affli do it for their dots

[onyx cove]

i think with enough finessing it would be easier for me to see

[slender trail]

i appreciate how you accurately recreated his foot size differences in your drawing. a++

[covert stratus]

how much dps is Well Placed steel from 200 to 213?

[stoic needle]

Bars don't stack well on nameplates

[slender trail]

have to sim it

[frail fossil]

afaik nameplate aura does it very cleanly

[onyx cove]

everyone knows that his left foot bigger

[frail fossil]

worth trying imo

[limber lion]

Probably like 3 dps. It's not a huge gain.

[onyx cove]

yeah i find looking at the actual seconds left on my dots is taking too much mental power

i need caveman coloured bars

[frail fossil]

p sure they even show up

on blizz default ui

[icy crater]

outlaw main talking in sin chat smh

[frail fossil]

multi spec gamer

[limber lion]

Coming from someone with a sub-tag

[frail fossil]

this tbf

[onyx cove]

I NEED THE BARS BEFORE I CAN SWITCH OK

[frail fossil]

even more embarassing

[icy crater]

yoo my sub tag is from 2016

[strange python]

after the last elvui update combo points above enemy nameplate keep randomly disappearing it’s really annoying

[tulip osprey]

why would you want CP on enemy plate?

[dense axle]

to RP as classic

[tulip osprey]

heh

[limber lion]

I can't live without having combo points on nameplates

[onyx cove]

i cant find nameplate auras is that an option somewhere? dont see a standalone addon

[limber lion]

Really useful for aoe

[strange python]

w.e. It is, I have them above whatever my focus target is so it’s easy for me to see

[limber lion]

I literally typed "nameplate auras" in google and this came up

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/nameplateauras

[onyx cove]

gotta love wow up search ai

needed to be one word

[gentle gyro]

hoh boy, time to run a few more mists before bed

I will have this dagger

it's personal at this point

[spice spire]

Bro.

[gentle gyro]

once I have it i will stop playing for a week or something

[spice spire]

This is beyond unlucky at this point

[brazen pine]

Just get it from the vault 🥳

[stoic needle]

@frail fossil

[frail fossil]

is it next tier ?

am i rerolling sin ?

[stoic needle]

But you've already rerolled

[frail fossil]

? i didn't play sin once in mythic raid

[stoic needle]

You literally have 235 doomblade shoulders bro

[frail fossil]

S T O P

[limber lion]

Even I don't have those 😦

[frail fossil]

but tbf i will stop the cope

[limber lion]

And I only play Assa 😦

[shy dust]

Didnt you craft

[frail fossil]

me going sin next tier

[shy dust]

235 lego

[frail fossil]

is a probability

[shy dust]

That seems like preparing to reroll

[stoic needle]

Just going through my screenshots

[shy dust]

M8

[loud light]

🚔 legendary police on the scene 🚔

[shy dust]

Everyone excepted massive sin buffs

[stoic needle]

Did they though?

[shy dust]

Yes

[stoic needle]

[gentle gyro]

how can I remove other roles? i just got sub and outlaw cause i played all 3 at the start, but now that sin reclaimed its "best spec ever" title

i ain't needin that

[stoic needle]

[citation needed]

[shy dust]

Sin has been the go to raid spec

It was only half a tier because it became the predominant raid spec again

[loud light]

go to bot spam and do the command again to toggle them off

[stoic needle]

That may be true but that's not really a guaranteed thing because blizzard balances by throwing darts at a board instead of any particular strategy

[covert stratus]

literally 9 dps. what the fuck

[shy dust]

You mean

They tune sin to usually be very good raid spec for rogue

[frail fossil]

nerf lashing scar it's an outlier

(i dont wanna rename in oshosisimp)

[maiden plaza]

do i want to delay flag to line up with vendetta or just let it fly?

[shy dust]

You can delay if you know you won’t lose a cast

[maiden plaza]

makes sense

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/DjZzrqz.png

i think i scared him

[faint harness]

Not posing yet

[stoic needle]

I'm not gonna do that tbh

I welcome all sin players

[gentle gyro]

you are gatekeeping people

with your mastery build

don't deny it

[nimble tartan]

if i get a blindside proc while under MA should i blindside or mutliate in the crit buff :)

[safe barn]

dude im a rogue player

[frail fossil]

not posing yet

[safe barn]

ill always be with the best spec

[frail fossil]

NOT POSING

[stoic needle]

That's missing a bunch of context of people clowning on sin all day long

[safe barn]

DONT @ ME

[iron orchid]

blindside proc lasts 10s iirc, so you should be able to fully use the MA buff, and then use your blindside proc

[stoic needle]

The blindside buff should last until the end of ma buff

[nimble tartan]

ok but listen what if im vanishing into mut 5cp get blindside proc, envenom, last global in MA is mut or blindside what me do

[stoic needle]

Mut

[nimble tartan]

danke

[stoic needle]

Blindside after ma

[icy crater]

is there an ideal way to deal with attendants as assa

or just like low cp rup and do normal shit

[ebon bramble]

i dnt knw. doesnt feel massive enough to me

[stoic needle]

I mean going from the worst dps spec to top 3 is kinda huge

[teal bloom]

Is that really the better play to mut even if you risk getting another blindside proc 🤔

[stoic needle]

I think it depends on how fast your raid deals with them I guess. If your damage is actually needed to kill them maybe save shiv for them if it comes up a few seconds before it gets summoned but otherwise garottes+low cp ruptures

[ebon bramble]

excuse me, not top 3 in Mythic CN.

[stoic needle]

Give it 2 weeks

[sand heath]

But assa should be up there before now, due to its heavily weighted on single. Good to see and feel the spec is playable again

[shy dust]

Sin is shit for damaging attendants

Probably one of the worst specs in the game for damaging them

[sand heath]

To much ramp for that little time a attendant lives for

[icy crater]

yeah I kinda figured but

wondered if there were any tricks or anytihng

[shy dust]

Just envenom it I don’t see any other thing

[icy crater]

ye

[ebon bramble]

i doubt it'll get to top 3 tho. if only we had more aoe/burst damage

[shy dust]

You can do to get meaningful damage

Could always go sub

[icy crater]

for sure

If we struggle hard with it I can go sub

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/9mHu20l.png

all the haste boys

[livid temple]

oof that mastery tho

[ebon bramble]

lol

[stoic needle]

Zooming

[ebon bramble]

not enough haste

[sleek sparrow]

not even over 100%

[ebon bramble]

does doomblade benefit from...pandemic? lol

[stoic needle]

Enough mastery slander

It doesn't pandemic, the damage stacks up like ignite

[eternal wave]

Disgusting

[stoic needle]

Which is better

[eternal wave]

Keeping Disgusting

Hah.

[stoic needle]

[gentle gyro]

what's wrong with it

[eternal wave]

It's anything above 0%

[stoic needle]

Why do you want small, boring envenoms

[gentle gyro]

ik

but cannot be avoided really

[stoic needle]

When you could have big dick envenoms

[eternal wave]

You say that

But today for the first time I got PI

with 25% Haste baseline

I saw Paradise

[ebon bramble]

i wonder if assassination will soon overtake as best single target spec 🤔

cant wait for 40% haste

[stoic needle]

Could you imagine the ranged malding

[ebon bramble]

you mean aff locks and fire mages?

[livid temple]

imagine assassination with 50% crit, 40% hast

[ebon bramble]

the ranged specs that cry the most? XD

[frail fossil]

affli is not op it's just CN fight are good for affli

[livid temple]

would be disgusting

[stoic needle]

Warlocks and fire mages would absolutely lose their shit

[gentle gyro]

the mages in my guild are malding already, not even sure over what

but they mald every raid

[ebon bramble]

why?

they are like

[gentle gyro]

i think it's part of the spec

[ebon bramble]

top 3

[dull cloak]

i have 0 mastery on my sin set kekekkekeke

[ebon bramble]

and op shit in m+

[stoic needle]

[frail fossil]

NOOOO I AM THE BEST SPEC IN THE GAME

[ebon bramble]

so basically every raid 😆

[gentle gyro]

something about not getting PI on pull

[stoic needle]

I would bathe in the fire mage tears

[frail fossil]

yes it's just something a warlock dude said when blizz nerfed malefic rapture(and reverted it)

[ebon bramble]

fire mages never have tears tho, they just get buffs

[frail fossil]

imagine being fire mage

S tier in raid, S tier in mythic +, S tier in pvp

hard life

[ebon bramble]

imagine the top dps spec getting buffed...

[molten olive]

I'm just mad that my slice and dice isn't 70% attack speed buff anymore.

[stoic needle]

Literally getting buffed while being #1

Insane

[ebon bramble]

o wait no need to imagine, they just did

i hope they make it so pyroblast is now a 6 target spell

i say 6 cause got to adhere to that aoe cap right?

[gentle gyro]

i'd say make greater pyro work against bosses

[molten olive]

The doomblade buff was a sign from the divine. I've been rocking doom blade since I read it. Way too cool, and I like the MTG reference.

[gentle gyro]

fire is so weak they need that change

[molten olive]

fire is for johnny combo players.

[ebon bramble]

i love using mut and applying doomblade on multiple targets

[molten olive]

yeah

[ebon bramble]

like the more targets, the more energy

meaning more doomblades

lolol

[stoic needle]

The bleed doesn't work with VW though sadly

If it did it would be absolutely busted

[gentle gyro]

vw only works with garrote and rupture

[stoic needle]

It would be like dashing scoundrel plus doomblade at the same time

We would be doing obscene dps

[molten olive]

VW works with the talent bleed

[gentle gyro]

with which?

ct?

no it doesn't

[ebon bramble]

i wish dashing was better tho

[molten olive]

Internal bleeding

[ebon bramble]

i like more energy

[gentle gyro]

does it?

[molten olive]

yes

really big in pvp honestly

[stoic needle]

yeah it is pretty nice in pvp

huge damage and helps you actually do your burst combo

[icy crater]

I put dots up + a kidney and sepsis

[icy crater]

and walked away from a warrior and it 100-0'd him

was just a damage test and he stood there

in a duel

but still

[ebon bramble]

i wish venomous wounds was EVERY bleed

lol bone spike + doomblade

https://tenor.com/view/there-are-no-limits-no-limit-limitless-boundless-endless-gif-14840678

[stoic needle]

im ngl i kinda miss the 20k sepsis > shiv in pvp

[molten olive]

bone spike doesn't even work with Exsanguinate

[stoic needle]

i havent pvped with flag yet tho

[molten olive]

and I'm pretty sure it doesn't scale with mastery

[stoic needle]

ok but honestly

it does

imagine if doomblade was "your envenoms deal 5% extra damage to the target for every bleed you have active on all targets"

like on sun king

[ebon bramble]

yes pls

[stoic needle]

CT 8 mobs

[ebon bramble]

are we...sub during zul now?

[stoic needle]

yes pls

[ebon bramble]

nerfed to oblivion next patch

[stoic needle]

it's balanced because we have to ramp into it

[molten olive]

I fear being overtuned

[ebon bramble]

we are currently mid pack anyways

[molten olive]

it means you suck for the rest of the xpac

[stoic needle]

meanwhile: fire mage

[ebon bramble]

fire mages are meant to be top spec ok?

i mean

[stoic needle]

overtuned, blizzard no care

[ebon bramble]

they are mages

most powerful class

they bend TIME

TIIIIME

[stoic needle]

zzz

[ebon bramble]

what do you bend?!?

a dagger?!

PFT

[molten olive]

Mages will get theirs then cry

[ebon bramble]

they alter the very fabric of reality

of course they have to be the most overpowered

cant you see the logs?

druids + locks + mages

all casters

seems right to me

[icy crater]

isn't boomkin the biggest snooze spec in the game

[ebon bramble]

lies

its the most fun 4 second rotation in the game

[molten olive]

My guild is pretty casual 7/10H currently and I'm like second on the meter only too a shadow priest.

[ebon bramble]

cast convoke

[molten olive]

the balance is pretty reasonable until you get to high level play

[stoic needle]

that sounds about right they are the top single target dps spec atm

I fully expect us to be top 3 in the coming weeks

[molten olive]

Yeah he pumps hard, on inerva and huntsman, he barely beats me while not touching the adds.

[ebon bramble]

your lies need to stop.

no way can a dagger beat time altering pyroblasting mages

ugh

[shy dust]

top 3 what

on wcl?

[ebon bramble]

top 3 meme specs maybe

[shy dust]

sin is a very strong st spec

but it will not be top 3 on wcl

anytime soon

[stoic needle]

why not

[ebon bramble]

stop lies

[molten olive]

honestly, the mages we get in WoW are a far cry from the lore.

[shy dust]

council

slg

sunking

sire

[subtle tundra]

cause aoe

[stoic needle]

mmm

[ebon bramble]

assassin + aoe is like...forbidden combo

[molten olive]

Council isn't AoE

[shy dust]

from wcl stats it is

sin can be a good spec

without it showing on wcl

[stoic needle]

that's true

but if shadow can be dogshit at aoe and be top 4 i feel like we can get up there too

interestingly elemental is #3 rn

[fathom swift]

its like the opposite with specs like ret, it does mediocre st sustained damage but it looks real good on logs anyway

[molten olive]

This is off topic, but has anyone found torghast enjoyable as assassin? I tend to find myself building unlimited invuln every run and getting bored fast.

[stoic needle]

define "enjoyable"

[jagged bobcat]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[molten olive]

Enjoyable: Can be played without the need for additional loot/rewards.

[stoic needle]

honestly i dont know if i would call torghast enjoyable in that way at all

[formal cliff]

Can you guys send me a SS of your interface in combat? I feel like I need a better one

[ebon bramble]

torghast is meant to be fun?

[stoic needle]

have you gotten the first steps + vein rippers build yet?

i mean it's kinda fun but i wouldn't do it for no reward

[ebon bramble]

lol

ya pretty much

right now its fun

cause we have some decently viable legendaries to make

[stoic needle]

tbh i liked it more when i was undergeared and it was hard

[ebon bramble]

i wonder if assassination will overtake outlaw as go to spec for raiding

[stoic needle]

it kinda is for single target

[ebon bramble]

imagine having to farm 4 different weapons

[stoic needle]

just 3

[ebon bramble]

one for raiding, one for m+

or 3

😆

[molten olive]

can outlaw not use daggers?

@formal cliff

[compact basin]

no

[livid temple]

So can the Mutilated flesh dot (doomblade dot) not crit?

[compact basin]

anyone else LOVE the new 9.0.5 slice and dice?

[ebon bramble]

you mean lack thereof in paying attention to it?

[icy crater]

I actually really like not having to push it lmao

[compact basin]

the fact that now you can spend 5 combo points in envenom to boost your dps

[ebon bramble]

ya haha

[compact basin]

instead of 5 combo point refreshing snd every 45 secs

[formal cliff]

big wa

[molten olive]

More envenoms is nice, and WV is cool and flavorful, but my attacks are less fast

[limber lion]

Pfft, there's someone in Heroic who's getting fed PI's and Blessing of Autumn 😢

[compact basin]

WV?

[stoic needle]

venomous wounds

[compact basin]

they really don't feel it to me

[molten olive]

lol typo

[clear zinc]

wenomous vounds

[compact basin]

I am in no way a top tier player but at least assassination is now doing more than subtlety in pve

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/gimMJVK.png

i really

don't wanna

play any more

[compact basin]

yikes :)

I still got a 203 inscrutable and it's really pulling my average ilvl down

[molten olive]

mistcaller is sweet if everyone is willing to get one

[livid temple]

I've done 11 mists and 8 theatres... I've seen the items I need drop 4 times but everyone needed them

[molten olive]

also, it can be swapped to other stats

[limber lion]

Just hit 100 average in heroic, ded spec

[stoic needle]

as i pop more CDs the cooldowns show up at the bottom

[mystic osprey]

Yo. Is Sin ST playing like BFA Nylo Sin or like old Sin?

[icy crater]

do you stream?

[stoic needle]

if i used on use trinkets those icons would show up there too

[frail fossil]

yo oshosi ur ui nice as fuck

did u made that urself ?

[livid temple]

I really just want to be able to finish up getting my BiS because then I'll sim for 7.2k XD

Is PI good for Sin?

[limber lion]

https://gyazo.com/11585502a3f3e21e6a4cafb5b7cbe043
here's mine

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/QVcaLRI.jpeg

[limber lion]

I use Afenar's Weak Auras

[formal cliff]

Good one

[limber lion]

Sometimes, not that often. Probably need to start doing that

[stoic needle]

it's about half and half. it's the redtukzui pack, but everything in the center is my own custom weakauras and the plater personal resource display

[frail fossil]

center is hot af

[icy crater]

I'd even watch vods tbh, not really any sin players that I know of stream super often.

[compact basin]

hold up I'm omw to training dummy to get a screen of my UI in combat

[gentle gyro]

yo man osho that stuff is lit

really digging the custom CP

[tender notch]

Outlaw can use daggers, but only in the offhand

[stoic needle]

https://wago.io/2oeqF_DZO

[molten olive]

@stoic needle your UI doesn't cover enough of the screen my dude

[limber lion]

I'll try to stream my raids/m+ whenever I do them. I'll post about it here.

[stoic needle]

it's the plater personal resource display replacement

[limber lion]

Might try to stream something tomorrow

[livid temple]

I know they are more generic but I really like Luxthos' weakauras

[limber lion]

Yo you have vanish ready!! make sure to use it

[stoic needle]

i've spent way too much time on my WAs lmao

[compact basin]

that's why I made that WA huge lmao

[gloomy fern]

@limber lion how can someone be arsed to do this 3 days in to the patch

[icy crater]

afaik you can get a streamer role and it will notify when you go live?

[formal cliff]

VANISH!

[frail fossil]

i have the most scuffed ui ever

[limber lion]

I enjoy doing it???

[gentle gyro]

@stoic needle your cp tracker is custom or also a pre made WA?

[limber lion]

It's like asking someone who does a lot of M+ why they keep doing keys

"Yo are you sane, all you do is keys all day long"

[molten olive]

honestly, I will never understand M+

[compact basin]

here's a list of the WA's I made to help with assassination in single target fights

[stoic needle]

it's part of the plater personal resource display replacement

[limber lion]

Ye, I prefer raiding myself. Not much of a m+ boy myself

[icy crater]

I would like it a lot more if I had a group to run with all the time but

raiding is my fav content for sure

[stoic needle]

this is what's from plater(besides the snd icon)

if you download plater and enable the "personal bar" you get that

[gentle gyro]

hm, alright. cause i also wanted to remake my UI, at least a bit

[stoic needle]

but the texture is from redtukzui elvui

[limber lion]

I've spent maybe 20+ hours on my UI. Make sure to backup your UI's or you might have to redo them at some point :--D

[gentle gyro]

i just want the cp tracker

[stoic needle]

https://www.tukui.org/addons.php?id=107

[limber lion]

Backup-check for the boys

[compact basin]

oooh you're running the 6 cp

how is it?

[stoic needle]

it works fine as venthyr

i have 20% haste

envenoms are more bigger

i dont mind sin being slow paced so i love DS

[formal cliff]

I feel like I need a better nameplate, I find it too hard to keep track of the bleeds on multitargeting idk

[compact basin]

so is venthyr better now do you think? It used to be dog doodoo

for assass

[limber lion]

It's BIS for raiding

[limber lion]

Yeh your nameplates might need some work

[compact basin]

yeah it wasn't though right

[frail fossil]

it got buffed

it's very good now

[molten olive]

the bottom of your screen is like a brick wall

[celest ruin]

is anyone simming 7k or higher without any 233 gear

[marsh yew]

huuuge noob question here but can assassination rogues use fist weapons?

[frail fossil]

no

[marsh yew]

sounds good

[formal cliff]

lmao

[stoic needle]

if anyone wants my plater profile here it is https://wago.io/0xB3yNIxB

[formal cliff]

I'll give it a try

[molten olive]

that looks sweet

[limber lion]

No pandemic timers?

[stoic needle]

there are pandemic timers but not for CT

[limber lion]

Ah good shit

[stoic needle]

i feel liek CT doesn't need it it's pretty obvious when it's in pandemic lol

[icy crater]

How well does it work in pvp?

[stoic needle]

i haven't PVPed in a while but i'd assume it works fine

[limber lion]

Yeh gotta be honest, I don't even have CT Pandemic on my weak auras lol

[icy crater]

The buffs on my current addon are massive so I can see them easily like 2x as big as those debuffs

[molten olive]

what the hell is pandemic?

[oblique flare]

are the prove your worth shared across all covenants or does each one have it's own? asking if technically i could do part 1 of all the covenants i left and am not part of and then do part 2 and turn in whenver i feel like it :D ?

[limber lion]

I would kill for a plater script/mod that separates important debuffs (garrote, rupture, ct, deadly poison) from the not-so-important ones (crippling poison, phial, doomblade, dauntless etc.)

And one that arranges them similar way every time and not randomly

So garrote is always first, then rupture, then ct, then deadly

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/RH1n0mY.jpg
marvel at my WA less UI

[limber lion]

So you don't have to look through 17 debuffs and try to figure out which is rupture and when it's about to drop off

[rough scaffold]

Question for my theory crafters: Serrated bone spike (Sudden fractures>) + Exsanguinate ?

[limber lion]

Fixed.

Doesn't work.

[rough scaffold]

Ohh bummer

thought many i was on to somthing cool

[oblique flare]

get a WA that makes your rupture and garrote glow if the target you're looking at has it for example

[limber lion]

I already have all of that

But I specifically want nameplates

For AoE

[oblique flare]

ah fair, but yeah, being able to just disable things or have a focus on some debuffs would be nicer

[limber lion]

Yeah like I don't really care for Dauntless/Crippling/Phial on nameplates

It's just unnecessary clutter

[tepid iris]

filthy animal, how do you live

[stoic needle]

i have all of those ones blacklisted in my plater settings

[oblique flare]

same reason i don't use the own resource bar at the bottom, it hardly shows what I would want to see

[stoic needle]

i find crippling is still useful so you dont try to kite a mob that isnt slowed and get killed

[limber lion]

Yeah, I didn't want to blacklist anything yet because I figured that it might be useful sometimes

But it probably isn't honestly

[rough scaffold]

Anyone sim the new doomblade with 'Maime, Mangle' and see if its viable?

[limber lion]

Might as well

[oblique flare]

the lack of customization in this game disgusts me

[limber lion]

Yes and it's not.

Lashing Scars > Well Placed Steel > Maim Mangle

[rough scaffold]

Your on point today, thank you

[stoic needle]

it's viable if you aren't venthyr and are running 2 potency

[icy crater]

lp for m+ right?

[high phoenix]

Is there a way in raidbots to sim without potion, flask, raid buffs? Trying to see if my training dummy dps is anywhere near my sim

[rough scaffold]

Oh im running Necro + doombalde

Necro + Doomblade for pvp with a priest

[midnight sierra]

do yall save flag for the second vendetta?

[molten olive]

doomblade and dashing scoundrel are so much more flavorful than Master Assassin and Zoldyk

[eternal wave]

If the fight length would not allow for additional uses sure

[stoic needle]

i think ma is at the very least fun to use if not flavorful

[rough scaffold]

I have spent so much time screwing with interface add ons. IMO simple WA is all I need. I kinda track everything second nature now

[limber lion]

Sometimes. You want to cast it on cooldown, or sync if you won't miss a cast during the fight.

[stoic needle]

yeah man i dont like those all in one packs

they do too much and not in the ways i like

that's why i made my own and tried to keep them simple

its really not that hard to learn to make your own

just go into the weakaura packages that you use and see how they made them

[cunning needle]

I'm new to importing plater shit - do I import this in scripting or modding?

[stoic needle]

you import it in profiles

[rough scaffold]

yeah its really easy- weak auras has templates you can follow now. idk about you guys but i spent like months of my life coding ELV UI and stuff. lol im done

[cunning needle]

kk

thanks

[stoic needle]

my ui used to be absolute dog

but i'm happy with it now

[rough scaffold]

id love to see it post a screeny if you want

[gusty mirage]

I'll try toying around with plater and figuring something out this weekend 🙂

[oblique flare]

I get the confusion with WAs though, when you do not use the templates, shit gets wild

and even within the templates, some abilities have conditions you cannot find for the other ability

[stoic needle]

from this (lol throwback to being a sub andy in prepatch)

[gusty mirage]

wait

you're undead?

D:

[stoic needle]

to this

not anymore lol

[rough scaffold]

nice! I like it

[oblique copper]

sounds really good, but I'm too lazy and just hide every unimportant debuff in "buff tracking" as well as adding especially important ones (like bte on outlaw) to the "buff special" making them bigger and in the center above the rest

[limber lion]

I used to make my own in Legion/BFA but stopped doing that in Shadowlands pre-patch because it's so much work updating them especially across expansions. So I just use a pack and that works fine for me.

It also helps for multi-specing because you can always use the creator's pack for other classes as well

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/QML5K95.png
this is such a cruel joke

[limber lion]

So I have my UI setup around Afenar's Weak-aura pack and whenever I boot up a new character, I download the Afenar WA-set for the class and it's done.

[limber lion]

Yeaah, I just hid all the unimportant buffs. Might as well play around with it a bit

[rough scaffold]

i've gone full on basic atm. I literally have like 5 or 6 WA template icons. that let me track Buffs and CD's without looking away

I guess I can get rid of that S&D WA!

[stoic needle]

yeah it does suck updating it all the time and updating it for all of the specs

[eternal wave]

Preach's UI is super clean and easy to digest after some very minor adjustments

[stoic needle]

but it's worth it because i'm anal about aesthetics

[gentle gyro]

i only did some own WAs for my disc priest because some fights have SS timings that have only 1-2 seconds margins

[rough scaffold]

Basic B UI

[gentle gyro]

my man

[polar apex]

@stoic needle i get spinning wheel of death when importing it into plater

[stoic needle]

you have to just wait

plater is like that

[polar apex]

okie it crashed first time but worked this time

[rough scaffold]

Anyone crashing after the recent WINDOWS + Blizz updates?

[gentle gyro]

na but i had a million crashes BEFORE the updates

[rough scaffold]

my ryzen rig has hard crashed twice in 24 hours 😦

[rough scaffold]

Thats cool. Maybe Im having hardware issue

[strange python]

wtf DS feels fucking terrible

i dont want to play this

[rough scaffold]

I hope its not my Graphics card. I just looked and my $190 RX580 I have had for two years now sells for $500.. WTF

[limber lion]

Then don't.

[stoic needle]

if its within 10 dps you really dont have to play DS

but personally i love the slow and steady playstyle

we arms now

especially as venthyr you get random bursts of haste too so it's not always slow

[polar apex]

@stoic needle none of the fonts imported ;_;

[rough scaffold]

The silicon shortage is real. were all screwed. CPU gaming only in 2021. Hope you like MUDS

[strange python]

the opener

makes me feel bad

[stoic needle]

the font is gilroy bold, it comes free with the redtukzui elvui pack

@polar apex https://www.cufonfonts.com/font/gilroy-bold

[turbid crow]

Is it safe to craft Doomblade or is better to wait a few weeks? Im short on ash 😦

[polar apex]

okay and where am i putting the folder

[rough scaffold]

it got buffed last week, seems like a good time afaik.

[stoic needle]

There should be a fonts folder in plater

[willow saddle]

is doomblade bis for pure ST?

[stoic needle]

Yes

[rough scaffold]

I just crafted my 225 DB for pvp and pve. Its realy good imo

[willow saddle]

welp, gotta do choreghast then

i really cba

[stoic needle]

Imagine

Not doing 1hr of torghast a week

[dark vigil]

max leveling sin rogue on stream

[polar apex]

got it thanks

[rough scaffold]

CHoreghast i died lol

[willow saddle]

my main leggo isnt even 235, fuck torghast

i really cba

[gloomy fern]

u can literally stealth to floor boss its super fast

[rough scaffold]

I only do full clears. Its a form of flagellation

[eternal wave]

Lol yeah, I literally only gather 1 Unceasing Link and insta stealth to boss

[limber lion]

Is there a way to sort buffs/debuffs in nameplates using Plater? So garrote shows up first, then rup, then dp and so on?

[balmy condor]

Same

[balmy condor]

I think plater has an option for that somewhere

[limber lion]

Plater's settings are awful, I hate em

[rough scaffold]

If you wish to make right any past mistakes in your life, its 1 full clear of Twisting corridors per transgression. Then you are forgiven.

[limber lion]

Just like Details

[unreal crag]

Necro gonna be good enough for mut? I wanna m+ as outlaw but raid as mut. Wanna make sure necro is solid enough

[untold rock]

whats the best assa pvp legendary?

[limber lion]

Mut? You mean Assa/Sin?

[rough scaffold]

Mut is assa in boomer speak i think

[limber lion]

Master Assa most likely.

[unreal crag]

Yes. Mut as in mutilate

[limber lion]

It's not "Mutilate Rogue"

[unreal crag]

@rough scaffold LMAO Smd

[rough scaffold]

haha lol

[balmy condor]

Mut is indeed boomer speak for sin

[rough scaffold]

i call it Mutt to just being silly

[unreal crag]

Definitely boomer talk 😅 always called it mut

[limber lion]

Sinister Strike Rogue, Mutilate Rogue and Shadowstrike Rogue

[unreal crag]

Calling it ass just feels weird lmao

[ebon bramble]

whats. your spec?

im ass

[limber lion]

Yeh, that's why you call it Sin or Assa

[ebon bramble]

🤔

[unreal crag]

So anyways... my question still stands lmao how viable is SBS Mut.

“Sin”

[limber lion]

It's great.

[balmy condor]

Also I was gonna resim pins and then turns out I need to wait for sbs fixes in sims

[unreal crag]

Really? Say less.

[ebon bramble]

"i like ass but outlaw seems better"

[limber lion]

It pulls ahead in AoE

[balmy condor]

Smh

[ebon bramble]

"why do you play ass?"

[limber lion]

[ebon bramble]

"your ass does good damage"

[rough scaffold]

I cant stop play ass. SO many bleeds

[ebon bramble]

"your ass bleeds are hitting hard"

[balmy condor]

Your spec channel is getting a little too off topic

[ebon bramble]

Your ass channel*

[rough scaffold]

lol i never laughed so hard in discord lol

ok back to questing, you guys are the best ass rogues i ever met

[limber falcon]

Door of shadow being barely faster than walking is kinda painful

[balmy condor]

Yeh but it’s so nice in dos

Sprint + door = ardenweald traps gone

[hollow escarp]

Omg, watching limit max play assa rogue and I'm about to gouge my eyes when people in chat give rogue advice from 2 expansions ago

[fathom swift]

sbs fix is already in

[balmy condor]

So it’s twitch chat

[balmy condor]

Not nightly

[fathom swift]

or are you simming on raidbots

smh

[balmy condor]

I’m not doing like 14 different sims locally tf

[rough scaffold]

Yeah. So do you guys find people love to talk about or tell us about Exsnaguinate? Its kinda wierd

[limber lion]

Holy fuck I got excited to see Max play Assa, but now I'm triggered by the chat

"What was the thing that made Garrote hit like a truck in BFA?"

Chat: "Subterfuge. It's still in the game, it's a talent"

[balmy condor]

8.3 exsang was seen as a high point for some people, I’ve seen it too

[limber lion]

[cunning surge]

Exsang kinda stinky doodoo :c

[cloud dune]

do you play with exsanguinate though? it's pretty great

[balmy condor]

No

Exsang is dog shit

[ebon bramble]

i want me haste

[limber lion]

https://gyazo.com/73742a20a63d367250a277c303ee8d6b
When Max asked what Blindside is

[fathom swift]

exsang was fun for the couple months it was good

[rough scaffold]

that makes sense, i remember when it was good but people keep bringing it up and then they get upset if you dont talk about it or use it lol

[balmy condor]

Like worst talent on the tree kinda bad

[cloud dune]

Venom Rush is better?

hmm

[cunning surge]

Alacrity

[balmy condor]

Yes but that’s second worst

[ashen anchor]

Now I know you're trolling

[balmy condor]

I feel trolling too

[cloud dune]

me? I would never

[balmy condor]

Uh huh

[rough scaffold]

Yeah thought I was getting trolled but i think the love for Exsang is real

[balmy condor]

People enjoyed it cause big number good and 70 apm assassination fun i guess

But then sin slowed down

[cloud dune]

so for legendary powers, doomblade is bis, but if I wanted to go with a more generalist legendary that can perform in AoE and single target, I'd go dashing scoundrel, right?

[ashen anchor]

Max haste Sin was peak Sin. You cannot change my mind.

[balmy condor]

And everyone’s like “oh yuck sin slow? Like it has been for every patch except 8.3? Oh yuck trash”

[halcyon zealot]

if i have a 213 septic shock (cuz i got trolled by venari), and i go venth, will i have 213 lashing or need to refarm the covenant specific conduit?

ive been NF since day 1

[rough scaffold]

Never forget: 'Exsanguinate' it is eternal love.

[balmy condor]

Dashing is pretty trash Aoe

[oblique copper]

need to refarm

[halcyon zealot]

pain

[hollow escarp]

I need to close the chat. Getting too triggered

Now I understand CFs here lol

[limber lion]

Holy fuck this guy in the chat has to be trolling

[balmy condor]

[ashen anchor]

Just be sure to do the World Boss and callings. They can drop the 200ilvl one so you don't have to bring it up from like 145 using stygia alone

[limber lion]

He can't be for real

[vernal granite]

need to link Max the pins!

[limber lion]

https://gyazo.com/7361fbb3c25aeda71e41f76adc6e72f1?token=45fc44d9043e1ca4e42312394e562e07

[hollow escarp]

Omegalul

[limber lion]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

I mean

[limber lion]

At 700% haste maybe

[balmy condor]

He’s not wrong

[rough scaffold]

Ok now im watching just for the chatt action

[ashen anchor]

Any 3000% hasters in the chat?

[hollow escarp]

Expedient stonks

[cunning surge]

At a certain haste you can also have 10k+ DPS in any fight

[balmy condor]

I think it’s actually closer to 65-70%

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/tmlHEN6.png
l m a o

[oblique copper]

I think they upped the chances on those 200 ilvl drops from callings on covenant change, I had 2 out of 3 chests containing the conduit (poor samplesize, but heard similar things from other players)

[rough scaffold]

Can someone link Max stream

[cloud dune]

I thought the extra energy and crit for poisons would make dashing decent in AoE. Granted, I haven't played assa since cata

[limber lion]

Just type Limit Max in google and it'll pop up

[gentle gyro]

you already have unlimited energy in AoE

[limber lion]

Energy becomes redundant in AoE

[balmy condor]

Poison damage isn’t great and you’re drowning in energy in aoe

[hollow escarp]

I liked when 1 guy told max he doesn't need Shiv, it's just a soothe

[rough scaffold]

ty

[cunning surge]

Hard Kappa

[silent tinsel]

Do you guys agi pot?

[limber lion]

Yes

[hollow escarp]

More reliable than rng phantom

[storm forum]

depends on the price of widowbloom

[livid temple]

What is the M+ rotation for Sin? Once I've ruptured and garroted everything I find myself just fanning and envenom

[limber lion]

You got it.

[hollow escarp]

CT as well

[gentle gyro]

garrote everything off cd, keep rupture up on stuff that wont die in the next 0.3s, keep CT up

if you somehow still have free time, FoK + Env

[hollow escarp]

Can't wait for the part where max will ask about legendary

Limit actually has no main rogues

[cunning surge]

This chat, is actually causing me psychic damage
It's just a bunch of monkey's slinging shit thinking their opinions are right...

[livid temple]

Lol some people on the forums are calling for Sin to get nerfed because they are doing too much damage now XD

[rough scaffold]

Sadly I cant contribute to that chat. I want to ask about Exsanguinate

[nocturne hawk]

I'ma have to watch a little of this vod tonight lmao

[icy crater]

?????

[hollow escarp]

I'm gonna ask

[cunning surge]

Some people just don't want to see Rogue be high up unless it's Outlaw...

It's sad

[hollow escarp]

But outlaw isn't there either

[cunning surge]

Oh I know
But when Outlaw is high up everyone is like :)

[cloud dune]

I can't stand outlaw

[rough scaffold]

Outlaw doesnt feel great to me but I havent really played beyond a couple of hours of the meta setup

[hollow escarp]

It's fun in M+

[cunning surge]

It's alright, but it's definitely a different play style entirely compared to sin

[hollow escarp]

And easy to get in keys thanks to raiderio meta

It's like a better warrior

[slender urchin]

Bad rolls + no pistol procs makes me want to kms

[cunning surge]

People will take a 190 OL over a 210 Sin

[slender urchin]

Council prog almost broke me

[hollow escarp]

I'm 224 in bags now so it's a bit easier to get invited

[cunning surge]

Ayyyyy

[hollow escarp]

Hopefully I get renown 30 until monday

Or 31 w/e is nadjia last row

[sleek sparrow]

it be 30

[hollow escarp]

Ty

[sleek sparrow]

and 34 is theo

[rough scaffold]

I've been grinding Necro for days. Its tough to leave NF, i miss that Soulshape

[hollow escarp]

I got used to it after less than 24 h

[dense bramble]

hey is that phial trinket modified by our mastery?

[rough scaffold]

Im liking Necro, i guess i still miss SS in the maw (However im getting really good at stealing mounts.)

[hollow escarp]

No

[cunning surge]

Yeah Soulshape sucks to leave behind, but it does feel okay really fast tbh to move to something else

[hollow escarp]

I like door of shadows on huntsman if I have the circle in last phase

[rough scaffold]

So outside of missing Soulshape - I love Necro, it makes a very survivable Rogue for pvp and great dmg too. Plus Serrated Bone spike now works with Doomblade

[cunning surge]

Zold too iirc

[hollow escarp]

Necro is tanky in pve as well

[dense bramble]

was that for me? 😦

[hollow escarp]

Ye

[modest glen]

yo, how is MA lego for assa in m+?

[rough scaffold]

Yeah I like that. Assa with thoes shields & a disc priest feels good in arena

[balmy condor]

Wait till you see the stonks on the new sims

(It’s not stonks, it just got a little bump from some bugs)

[modest glen]

thinking i can just craft doomblade for st and use MA for m+'s

[manic harness]

That's the play

[gusty mirage]

sir I believe you have an addiction to simming

[rough scaffold]

The night changed to Necro I saw Pika release a video titled "Every Rogue just went Venthere" lol felt bad

[gusty mirage]

thats cuz venthyr has a lot of burst in pvp w/ the conduit

[willow saddle]

ok just to be 100% sure, doomblade is bis for raid

[gusty mirage]

SBS still hits like a truck and is ez combo points to secure a kidney or kill if mfd is on CD. plus fleshcraft is strong now

[rough scaffold]

Yeah it does look good. I guess Assa rogue pvp'ers.. well we are a weird off meta gang

[cunning surge]

Me, still as Night Fae because fuck the meta:

[gusty mirage]

fae's soulshape is still bis in arena imo

[cunning surge]

I love this Covenant 100%

Oh I believe that honestly

[hollow escarp]

Sepsis is good in pvp

[gusty mirage]

assa + healer is going to be really good in 2s now 🙂 I'm a happy camper

[rough scaffold]

Nightfae has a great map too imo. Better homebase that Maldraxxus imo

[cunning surge]

Pretty easy to use Blink is strong as hell, that's only magnified in Arenas

[exotic pulsar]

Any advice? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/d2j3wGZTMm489JKB/#fight=last&type=damage-done

[hollow escarp]

I still didn't change my pfp

[rough scaffold]

Also it cannot be silenced

[gusty mirage]

it is fun baiting kicks from the zug zug warriors on door 😛

[cunning surge]

Oh that's true too

[gusty mirage]

but soulshape is just so good

[rough scaffold]

Well I have treid to garrote mages to prevent the blink and the just soulshape

i try to rapidfire garrote and cheapshot

[hollow escarp]

Oh no

Max asked about openers assa

[rough scaffold]

lol whisper go set them strait

[hollow escarp]

@limber lion to the save

[balmy condor]

I tried to resim on Wednesday, but then didn’t cause I had other things to do, wanted to resim Thursday but then got tied up, wanted to sim today, but then we found that sbs isnt hasted in sims

[rough scaffold]

yes someone go help!

[balmy condor]

Just Tell the chat to join the discord

[hollow escarp]

Oh no no

[rough scaffold]

Its a member only chat or i would

already used my prime sub lol

[fading wigeon]

How much of a bump would necro get if sbs is properly hasted in sims?

[rough scaffold]

is it not properly effected by haste atm?

[fading wigeon]

Sorry was referring to whispyrs comment above

[icy crater]

lowkey want ceverion to play my character to see how bad I really am

[fading wigeon]

Or you can post logs and people can tell you

[balmy condor]

just in sims

[hollow escarp]

I've got good advice when I posted my logs in legion

[icy crater]

the only thing I consistently fuck up is shiv casts

for some unknown reason

[hollow escarp]

Practice

[fading wigeon]

Just press it on cooldown

[rough scaffold]

Anyone know if they changed the renown cap in the last patch? I'm not even getting them from my calling quests (And I'm playing catch up, after switching covenants.)

[hollow escarp]

40 is cap

[willow saddle]

what missives for doomblade?

[balmy condor]

maybe 30-40

[rough scaffold]

I kinda took the approach that its ok to overspend a point, if it gets the shiv efect on target for your finsiher

[fading wigeon]

Ah so not significant at all. Thanks

[balmy condor]

significant enough to probably overtake fae

[rough scaffold]

So im at 27 and just stopped getting renown awards for my calling quests ??

[limber lion]

Okay my plater profile is sick now. Just set up a priority-system for my bleeds/poisons so they'll always stay in the same order.

[halcyon zealot]

so im on ptr trying venth before i swap on live, can someone give me a once over lightly on flag usage?

[willow saddle]

haste crit missives for bis for doomblade?

[limber lion]

Use on cooldown, sync with Vendetta if you don't miss out on a cast.

[rough scaffold]

cast flag and then spend as many points as you can on finshers

[halcyon zealot]

ty ty friends

[lost wharf]

Missing shiv on a boss while vendetta is up... I know why I didn't miss assa

[rough scaffold]

i think so. or vers, haste for pvp

[gentle gyro]

i'm at the point where i trade my loot to other rogues in my mists keys because I get everything but the dagger

[hollow escarp]

Haha

[rough scaffold]

ok im a little jealous now 🙂

[gentle gyro]

jealous?

JEALOUS?

hold on a second

https://i.imgur.com/6umvSFo.png

[sweet berry]

you must really like doing mists

[hollow escarp]

Just get 226 daggers from.vault

[rough scaffold]

well jealously is relative lol

[gentle gyro]

just to spite me there will be a 226 dagger in the vault, but it will be crit mastery or some shit

[rough scaffold]

im lvl 200 what can i say!?

[iron orchid]

lel

[limber lion]

I've barely even done 42 dungeons in the whole of Shadowlands

[rough scaffold]

ok honestly i read it backwards. lol

[limber lion]

Let alone a single dungeon 42 times

[gentle gyro]

my number would be higher if I didn't spend half the time in queue

[iron orchid]

I feel that

[gentle gyro]

i'm beating every fucking mage or boomie that I come across

[limber lion]

https://gyazo.com/0b76001ef864516ee3b7a62bf704284f
🙂

[iron orchid]

I upgraded both daggers to 220 in less than 3 days, still have around 500 valor ...

[gentle gyro]

but people wont take me cause no MeTaSPec

[hollow escarp]

Wait

So I'm lucky to have 223 dagger?

[iron orchid]

I think we are just all unlucky

to not get 226 daggers from vault

[limber lion]

I guess so. I also have a 226 dagger from the vault, but haven't seen a single 223/226 weapon since.

[signal gulch]

226 sanguine dagger instead of mists

[hollow escarp]

I just need a phial and a decent belt and I'm set

[iron orchid]

That's very decent tho

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgur.com/vcjhpzS.png

it goes further, not enough space on the page

[limber lion]

You okay?

[hollow escarp]

Lol

[daring tundra]

D:

Imma have to that for plaguefall vial

[tacit forum]

How did you guys do to lvl up renown fast?

[daring tundra]

Not looking forward to it

[limber lion]

Normal raid, LFR raid then covenant campaign

[hollow escarp]

Play the game

[gentle gyro]

lfr to get started, then just play the campaign

[tacit forum]

I see

[limber lion]

But Renown is really iffy and it doesn't drop in similar quantities for everyone.

[tacit forum]

So just step down to easier and fast content

[daring tundra]

Does LFR, normal and hc raid all give separate renown drops?

[limber lion]

Some report getting it from every raid boss, some report not seeing a single one from a single boss

[gentle gyro]

yes

[limber lion]

Yes

[daring tundra]

Ah ffs

I cba man

[hollow escarp]

I did a normal clear and got 6 renown

[daring tundra]

But I need the renown

I did lfr and got 6 yeah

[limber lion]

Raids are easily the fastest way to get renown

Until you get locked by Blizzard's 🍝 code

And then suddenly stop getting any renown

[daring tundra]

My guild is on a break from raiding this week as well so I’ll have to pug normal and hc 😭

[hollow escarp]

I did the weekly quests 2 times this week

First on NF and then on Venthyr

[gentle gyro]

i'm at 38 renown and i just accepted that it's gonna be there til next week

[limber lion]

It's not like you need 40 for anything anyways

:p

[hollow escarp]

Title

[daring tundra]

I want 34 renown and I’ll be happy

[limber lion]

Yeah, but that'll come.

[gentle gyro]

cause they still haven't fixed it with completing the weeklies before you reach the max catchup renown

[daring tundra]

At 24 rn

[limber lion]

You don't need it now.

[gloomy fern]

why 35 gives u 2% stam

[gentle gyro]

ye ik i won't need it

i didn't even actively farm it past 30

[daring tundra]

Yeah true forgot about the Stam... 35 then.. but 34 gives me the final theotar bind I want which is why I made a mental note of it

[sleek sparrow]

they have fixed it

[lost wharf]

Idk how you guys get to farm shit. Guess you must have good rio. Can't even get to a +12 key with 1.2k rio and 222ilvl

[daring tundra]

1.2k is more than good for a 12 though

[hollow escarp]

1.2k is almost KSM

[daring tundra]

I usually just apply for groups with 1 member in em .. they usually have less applicants

[lost wharf]

I'm a rogue tho. And you defo need Lust and perfect MDI setup for a +12 key (according to PUGs)

[daring tundra]

And fill quite fast atm

[hollow escarp]

I legit think the color makes people accept you or not

The Rio addon color

[daring tundra]

Ooo purple number I take

[hollow escarp]

Ye

[daring tundra]

Blue number? Ew

Trash

[gentle gyro]

my number is purple, still don't get accepted

[subtle kiln]

now you have 1600 ios farming 12-15s for items and valor

[gentle gyro]

i got invited into exactly ONE +14 on my rogue

[daring tundra]

Imagine being a green number

[hollow escarp]

True

Lots of competition on low keys

[lost wharf]

I have 2 dungeons +14, 1 on 12 not in time, rest is 15 intime. So yea...

[cunning surge]

I'm a blue boi
850~ or so

[daring tundra]

I only do 15+ keys with my guild .. pugging is a nightmare

Except I did one 17 but that was NW with MA

[hollow escarp]

Plugged this week for the first time in 1 month

People have the weirdest routes

[lost wharf]

I can't get a guild, because I can't get into raids, because I don't have any mythic kills because my old guild I joined at the start of the expansion kicked all melees except the DH for progress.

Never join a fcking guild that goes for 30+ man roster unless you wanna try hard...

[daring tundra]

Idm if people have “weird” routes ... what I hate about pugs is the tanks that watched MDI once and think we can follow their routes

[icy crater]

is your guild private logging @limber lion

[sleek sparrow]

idk my rogue is only 1200 io and ive gotten into plenty of 15 pugs the past few days

[lost wharf]

Do you have absurd ilvl?

[sleek sparrow]

221 in bags

so not absurd by most margins

[icy crater]

im 222 same rio and spend hours looking for groups lmao

actually 1300

[lost wharf]

Yea, exactly like me.

[hollow escarp]

220+ always looks good

[lost wharf]

222, 1200 rio, can't get into 14 or 15. Might get a 12 in an hour

[daring tundra]

What’s best sin leggo for M+ btw

[lost wharf]

Outlaw

😄

[daring tundra]

I hate outlaw D:

[hollow escarp]

Zoldyck or ma maybe

[daring tundra]

Thank you

[hollow escarp]

But we have the option to explore

As Whyspir said yesterday

[daring tundra]

I’ll probably make zoldyck over MA

[hollow escarp]

Ma is good for outlaw KS

[daring tundra]

Already have a MA made for sub PvP so wanna spice it up a lil

[hollow escarp]

Ahh

[lost wharf]

ks?

[daring tundra]

Killing spree

[hollow escarp]

Killing spree

[untold solar]

hey guys are thr guides updated?

[hollow escarp]

The spell that makes you die in frontals

[daring tundra]

The MA KS build is the only outlaw build that looks fun to me

I don’t like how it plays in raids

[lost wharf]

Blade Flurry->vanish->ks->deal almost as much dmg as 1 flamestrike?

[hollow escarp]

Hey, at least I get to see 18k burst

First pull DoS

[daring tundra]

Big numbers make brain go brrr

[limber lion]

No, we just haven't killed any of the earlier bosses in over a month. We've been perma-extending since Council.

[lost wharf]

That's less than a heal pala does on a single target boss

[icy crater]

ah gotcha, thanks

[untold solar]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[limber lion]

Hoping to reclear one day, but that's probably happening only after Sire has been killed

[hollow escarp]

[quick vale]

Should I ever overcap on resources before I enter my shiv window ?

[hollow escarp]

You mean cast shiv on full cp?

[quick vale]

No as in having a full energy bar in preparation for my shiv

[balmy condor]

that's called pooling

you don't want to overcap

but you do want to pool

[quick vale]

Okay great just ensuring that I don’t want to overcap

Ty for the help

[icy crater]

should you pool if shiv is up or just press shiv even if ur low energy

if you can't manage to pool before

[balmy condor]

always press shiv

[hollow escarp]

Eventually you get used to have enough energy to blast during shiv window

!stats

[prisma monolith]

**Shadowlands: ** Haste > Versatility => Critical Strike => Mastery

[solemn hare]

do we hold flag for detta?

[sleek sparrow]

pug run parses werent too bad today

[icy crater]

tryna find a pug rn to practice

games dead tho

[sleek sparrow]

games always ded

have a few low 80s i gotta raise

[hollow escarp]

Join LFR and ask random priest for PI

[sleek sparrow]

hopefully can get a mythic reclear soon for some mythic parses

[hollow escarp]

I got 5 PIs on Sire LFR lol

You dont want to parse mythic now

[limber lion]

Just get r1's

[hollow escarp]

True

[icy crater]

ye 4head just get the parse

[limber lion]

[hollow escarp]

I got blue logs in top 100 lol

[limber lion]

But yeah, if you get rank 3 on like slg, it's a green parse

Lmao

[hollow escarp]

Or green log Xymox out of 31 parses

It was Grey when I killed

Turned green

[stoic needle]

doing a timed 15 boost and the warlock says to me "did you do all of your KSM push as assassination?" "yeah, i haven't done a key above 5 as outlaw"

"that's unusual."

when will the shade end

[hollow escarp]

Never

[livid temple]

I mean Sin has never really been an dungeon or M+ spec, I feel like even sub is more accepted for dungeons than outlaw, I got my KSM as sub but that's only because I didn't have outlaw weapons at the time

[icy crater]

did you play bfa?

[stoic needle]

i mean if i can time 15s with sin with the 3rd dps basically hard inting the whole time i'd say it's pretty good

i didn't

[rough scaffold]

Anyone know if sudden fractures is ok for single target now?

[hollow escarp]

Bfa sin was very good in M+

[balmy condor]

its ok

[ionic smelt]

bfa sin with corruption was just awesome to play<3

[knotty sparrow]

I like DoTs

[hollow escarp]

Even in Uldir with SS was strong in m+

[rough scaffold]

Still worse than well placed steel and lethal then?

[balmy condor]

usually yeh

[limber lion]

Gar > gar > gar > vanish > gar > gar > gar > ct in BFA

[hollow escarp]

Yep

[rough scaffold]

thanks!

[hollow escarp]

And watch reddit cry

[knotty sparrow]

I can sustain like 8k dps on 3 target cleave for several minutes with crimson tempest

Ridiculous sustain aoe

[hollow escarp]

SD gauntlet is pretty nice

I was expecting it to be bad because no restealth

[limber lion]

Yep. We lack the burst that every other class has, but our sustain is insane in comparison

[knotty sparrow]

I can’t wait until I get my doomblade up there in ilvl

Stupid how it takes like a full month

[static ore]

Doomblade on shoulders?

[knotty sparrow]

I went gloves

[hollow escarp]

Hands

[knotty sparrow]

You can get SLG shoulders

[static ore]

Yeah cause stone legion shoulders right?

ye

[lament mica]

non-issue for lots of players lol

[hollow escarp]

It's never too late to hope

[knotty sparrow]

PvP shoulders have haste too but you can only get gloves with crit IIRC

Conq gloves have crit I think

[static ore]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

**Shadowlands: ** Haste > Versatility => Critical Strike => Mastery

[static ore]

So I guess the crit vers shoulders arent bad

[knotty sparrow]

Not bad no. I have like zero crit because I’ve been MA for so long but i can really feel it when I play any other leggo

Crit is underrated

[hollow escarp]

My MA gear has 24% crit lol