assassination

[stoic needle]

I am oshostradamus

[shy dust]

@balmy condor how much is this bug fix worth

wanna take a guess

[oblique flare]

vein ripper legendary when

[shy dust]

[balmy condor]

I'm good thanks

[fleet anchor]

Pandemic was added as a feature talent for Warlocks in Wrath not MoP. After Wrath it was redesigned.

[gusty mirage]

Vein ripper would be so sick

[stoic needle]

Stop I can only be so erect

[icy crater]

do you need a certain amount of crit % for dashing to be bis?

If env pandemics

[fleet anchor]

MoP is when everything started pandemicing by default

[oblique flare]

vein ripper

OMAE WA MO SHINDEIRU

[balmy condor]

[stoic needle]

Dashing increases envenom's crit chance by 15% too

Which is pretty cool

[tribal marlin]

but not Zoldyck

kek

[icy crater]

d mblade

[polar cape]

Did they fix envenom pandemic or nay

[stoic needle]

Zoldyck should work with envenom

[balmy condor]

on ptr it seems so

[polar cape]

Kool

[fleet anchor]

Dashing is passive damage increase and bigger Envenoms. Doomblade is passive damage increase and bigger Envenoms. They are basically the same legendary from a functional player standpoint. 😛

[young pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[balmy condor]

but energy

[stoic needle]

But from a meme standpoint, doomblade gives bigger envenoms by virtue of pure numbers

[balmy condor]

how will people play sin if it's not 80 apm

[naive rock]

oh why not just take both of them when you can take 2 legos

[icy crater]

but it feels so good to have energy even though my dps is the exact same

[stoic needle]

You'd probably want zoldyck

[young pebble]

I'd be fine with all three Rogue specs if SnD wasn't a thing

[stoic needle]

• doomblade

[young pebble]

SnD is the worst part of rogue prove me wrong

[icy crater]

I'd say the class being bugged to shit is the worst part of rogue

[frozen karma]

Tuesday it won't be

[naive rock]

@young pebble Outlaw wants to know your location

[frozen karma]

[signal gulch]

i liked snd more when it was an outlaw talent that you didnt take

[humble socket]

I like having Slice and dice back, it makes me feel like a rogue

[stoic needle]

SnD is literally just a throwback for classic andys

[balmy condor]

yeah osh, who could that be

[limber swallow]

next they'll bring back recuperate and tie energy regen to it... like cataclysm...

[young pebble]

CTTC is weird though... Blizz is like okay SnD is garbo unfun but instead of taking it out completely we're just gonna keep it anyway for flavor but you never have to worry about it

[stoic needle]

I have no idea

[young pebble]

which just feels weird. get rid of it entirely imo

[stoic needle]

I don't even like snd

[fleet anchor]

I mean Dashing gives your Envenoms 15% Crit all the time and Doomblade gives your Envenoms 0-20% (usually 15% on ST) more damage conditionally. I’d say they are relatively similar. 😛

[oblique flare]

blizzard, i offer you snd in exchange for CT baseline

[stoic needle]

They're similarly from a dps standpoint, but if your meme goal is the largest single envenom you go doomblade

[young pebble]

Doesn't Dashing just spam you with energy on AoE too?

[signal gulch]

less snd casts means more big mastery envenoms

[icy crater]

if they're the same ST dashing is better aoe though because of regen 🤔

[balmy condor]

I hate it here

[young pebble]

phase 1 sire

[fleet anchor]

Dashing loses value on AoE but so does Doomblade once you stop Mutilating so shrug

[humble socket]

Idk the extra attack speed is nice, especially since melee damage is out #1 damage source

[silent tinsel]

Snd was taken with the pantheon trinket in legion

[fleet anchor]

They are both exceptionally similar

[limber lion]

Holy fuck SLG is a miserable fight.

[fleet anchor]

It’s just a numbers game

[stoic needle]

😘

[limber lion]

We have 130 wipes on it and we haven't hit the second transmission even once

[icy crater]

What we really need is zold buffed to 50% from 30

[fleet anchor]

They are pretty much as close to functionally identical but different designs as you can get.

[tribal marlin]

Zoldyck working on Envenom would already be exceptionnal

[icy crater]

true

[frozen karma]

My guild wiped 242 times after all those nerfs, gl

[silent tinsel]

Greenskins and blunderbuss

[tribal marlin]

would most likely bring the leggo on parse with other, prob slighly behind, but will make our Execute very strong

[dawn ivy]

wait for real though does envenom pandemicing again have a chance at changing leggy priority?

[balmy condor]

yes

[stoic needle]

Zoldyck forever boys

[limber lion]

It feels like we make 0 progress. It's awful

[dawn ivy]

oh no no no

[limber lion]

Like it wouldn't be so bad if we actually saw some progress

But it's the same shit 24/7

[balmy condor]

I doubt it would make dashing the clear winner

but dashing would probably be pretty similar

[young pebble]

zoldyk needs high IQ raid groups so you don't get called out for lower DPS on >30% wipes

imo change zoldyk to work like condemn >.>

[stoic needle]

That would be so absurd

I'd love it

But it'd be broken af

[frozen karma]

Encounters are just so personnal responsability heavy now, if you've got 5-6 bad players in your group like me it's basically a gamble if you kill a boss or not lol

[dawn ivy]

well now im glad im still 3 weeks from making a sin leggy

[humble socket]

Get rid of Shiv rank 2, give us Kingsbane back

[spice spire]

Mythic SLG even Unbugged seems like the hardest fight in the raid by far

[limber lion]

Yeah that's a good point

[stoic needle]

Why not both

[humble socket]

True, but at least split Shiv back into Toxic blade

[stoic needle]

Yeah agreed

[humble socket]

I hate not being able to dispel enrage when i want

[frozen karma]

We're progging Denathrius right now, 111 pulls only like 6 in P3, people can't even interrupt an add and dodge stuff on the ground

[signal gulch]

having to hold shiv to dispel raging

[frozen karma]

[humble socket]

Or the mobs in DoS

[young pebble]

people getting burned out because they're almost full 226 and were expecting that more gear would just carry them through

noooooooope

[coral pawn]

Ticket time for venthyr time keeps going up...12 hours now

[frozen karma]

Gear can only get you so far if you struggle to do basic stuff

[coral pawn]

was 7 hours 3 hours ago

[dawn ivy]

@frozen karma if its any consolation, that sounds very average

[slender urchin]

If I complete my souls/anima weekly as NF then switch to Venthyr, will I get them again?

[fleet anchor]

Just run crippling and tell your tank to kite like everyone else does!

[young pebble]

nyalotha definitely felt like a lot of encounters could be kinda brute forced just with a shitload of high ilvl gear and stacking BiS corruptions

[signal gulch]

i do that on non raging weeks

[limber lion]

Yeaah. But Sire at least sounds like it's actually more enjoyable fight than SLG. Idk, I wouldn't know. :DD

[young pebble]

can't do that in CN so people getting upset

[limber lion]

Surely the boss falls next week with all the giga buffs

jk our top 2 damage are hunters and they're getting fucked by bug fixes

[balmy condor]

my tank is a bear with incarn though

[limber lion]

Rip

[frozen karma]

It probly is tbh, just sucks having most of the group understand a fight and be on autopilot while a handful are just causing wipes in P1 and P2, but guess that's more of a recruitment problem overall

[signal gulch]

same with mine

[frozen karma]

Oh for sure it's way more fun

[dawn ivy]

yeah. once you hit p3 a few times, you should kill very soon after. the boss is i think an average of like 130-150 pulls

[young pebble]

ah yes "the healer is dogshit but he's the raidlead's best friend" problem lol

[icy crater]

replace healer with half the raid and that was my last guild

[frozen karma]

Yup we have too many of those in my group lol

[jovial oriole]

Haven't played SIn much. Do we use Shiv on CD, or do we try to line it up with something?

[dawn ivy]

line it up so you get more than one envenom off in it

or at least try to

[drifting cloud]

[jovial oriole]

Got it thx!

[drifting cloud]

you press it on cd

[balmy condor]

you press it on cooldown

yeah

no idea what that lining up thing is

[dawn ivy]

i see people press it with no CP, no energy, and bleeds dropping

[frozen karma]

Think he just meant pool for it

[dawn ivy]

^

[stoic needle]

As you should

If it comes up, press it

[gusty mirage]

I wonder if its a remnant from BFA "pool energy before to maximize envenoms in TB windows"

[wide bolt]

more about just getting the extra nature dmg on your poison ticks and then envenoms you get off are a bonus

[jovial oriole]

Yeah was thinking get close to max CP before using it, pool some energy etcc

[stoic needle]

That's still a thing, but you pool on envenom

[spice spire]

Pooling energy? In the final year of BfA? In that economy?

[stoic needle]

Don't envenom until you're going to overcap energy and you will naturally have energy for shiv

[signal gulch]

but thats not pressing buttons

[stoic needle]

[tribal marlin]

yeah but in practial don't pool too much like this or you will overcap a lot of energy if you have to move

[naive rock]

@signal gulch You must be new here sin APM is 10

[tribal marlin]

like good rule is to not pool more than like 2 mutilate

[stoic needle]

How much of a dps loss is overcapping energy anyway

[gusty mirage]

perfect for my boomer joints

[latent field]

real sin players use cpm to pad

[tribal marlin]

big if it start being regular

[frozen karma]

I refuse to play blindside, makes the spec wayyyy too fast

[gusty mirage]

I want it as slow as humanly possible

like afk and come back 5 minutes later slow

[stoic needle]

Full vers/mastery doomblade

[naive rock]

oh that would of be the sbs build if they kept the bug in

[stoic needle]

With deeper strat

[frozen karma]

Yup, sin should infinite corruption on every dot, just dot once and afk

[stoic needle]

0% haste

[drifting cloud]

If you cant whisper people its too fast

[gusty mirage]

true

[tender fjord]

You need to be able to rage in /p ofc

[spice spire]

Delete this rn

[fleet anchor]

Why would Doomblade favor Mastery when a lot of the Doomblade value comes from Mutilate damage?

[naive rock]

if i cant click and back peddle it is way 2 fast

[gusty mirage]

We've lost him, he's gone full crackhead on mastery

[stoic needle]

It doesn't, the joke was about the slowest possible sin spec

[spice spire]

It’s true

[balmy condor]

the red hachadino

[spice spire]

When he started down the venthyr path at least there was reasoning. Now he’s just washed :/

[stoic needle]

Laugh all you want

[signal gulch]

8 months

[balmy condor]

sounds good

[stoic needle]

You'll all see

[spice spire]

Still laughing papi

[gusty mirage]

We do this because we love you

[naive rock]

@stoic needle prob need the pvp trink for ur build right? lol

[floral mural]

deeper strat with doomblade is the call right

[frozen karma]

Can't wait to be necro with 100% crit in 8 months

[drifting cloud]

envenom bug has been live since release it just wasnt in sims for awhile right?

Or well does anyone know how long its been in sims

[balmy condor]

I can find that for you real quick ryler

[drifting cloud]

ballpark is good enough :p

[balmy condor]

15 days ago

[gusty mirage]

whispyr is a champion of going the extra mile

[stoic needle]

Truth

[balmy condor]

here's the commit as well

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/commit/1c4d75fe3d5e610e1bc98fbac4861bf388adbdcb

[naive rock]

@gusty mirage Whispyr wont go 0 haste to stack mastery

[balmy condor]

true

[stoic needle]

I was working on a big sim but now that the evenom bug is fixed I cba, just going to wait until tomorrow

[balmy condor]

I won't

[gusty mirage]

I said extra mile, not gimping his damage

[drifting cloud]

thanks

[stoic needle]

[gusty mirage]

idk why this is the first time I've seen madge, but I'm sad I haven't seen it sooner

[fleet anchor]

Full stack Vers because let’s be honest PvP is how you get gear anyway

[onyx wind]

what bug is fixed

[stoic needle]

Envenom wasn't pandemicing

wasn't it like a 100 dps loss?

[onyx wind]

did they actually fix that?

[stoic needle]

it's fixed on the ptr apparently

[onyx wind]

man sin is gonna be busted if they keep fixing bugs like this

[stoic needle]

7.4k sims inc

[weak tapir]

do you guys know of any sin rogues who streams/creates videos around high keys?

[young pebble]

right now? lol

maybe after Tuesday

[balmy condor]

dei

only one I know of

[spice spire]

Polyvalence_dei on twitch, but it’s French

Still a good learning experience

[icy crater]

whispyr streams top tier assa rogue and poe content

[balmy condor]

TOP TIER

[trim zinc]

true

[balmy condor]

[trim zinc]

TOP TOP TIER

[icy crater]

the toppest tier

[echo cargo]

Lemme get that PoE info boi

[icy crater]

the ice shot build is just 👌

[buoyant mauve]

we did it!

[weak tapir]

ty

[sleek otter]

I know what he does do thats top tier, spend 3 hours on pins(thank you Whispyr)

[balmy condor]

I had to spend 10ex changing it cause the damage was trash

[icy crater]

LOOOL

[balmy condor]

BUT IT WORKS NOW

[icy crater]

POGG

[balmy condor]

I have a lightning cluster jewel

and I need a +1 curse +attack crit astral

but aside from that

uh

good enough

[spice spire]

If we watch ur stream does that make us s*mps?

[icy crater]

I'm a sub so I'm a hard simp

[balmy condor]

no that makes you sysps

[spice spire]

I fucking hate this place

[icy crater]

(got gifted tho imagine even using your prime on whispyr )

[balmy condor]

sispys

shishs

[stoic needle]

[balmy condor]

i don't fucking know man

[buoyant mauve]

are there any other mut bugs we can mass report?

[proven ferry]

!bis

[balmy condor]

get fucked

[proven ferry]

😛

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
RH: https://www.ravenholdt.net/guides/assassination-rogue-guide-shadowlands-raid-dps/
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide

[icy crater]

Saved for future keks

[buoyant mauve]

why are you like this ;-; I even bookmarked it. whispyr pls, I applied for viewing access

[balmy condor]

lmao

I had to pull a profile a couple days ago

and then realized 4 people were looking at it

so I yoinked the link

[icy crater]

LOL

[teal bloom]

Whispyr hiding the bis list so he can do 100% parses while everyone else uses shit gear FeelsBadMan

[nocturne hawk]

haha bis tab opened indefinitely

[balmy condor]

yeah that's how that works

I'm actually moving the BiS stuff over into a spreadsheet similar to fuu's

[stoic needle]

how could you do this to me

[fringe dust]

spreadsheets ftw

[balmy condor]

cause maintaining pins without a spreadsheet is uh

yuck

[stoic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

i deserve a science pass

[drifting cloud]

Bis list uses mega shiv dont tell anyone

[wet ruin]

how about an extra channel 😄

[sleek otter]

Pfffft I saved all the items to my addon

get fucked

[stoic needle]

i mean i could just droptimizer sim and get it

but that takes effort

[sleek otter]

Exactly lmaoooooo

[balmy condor]

well that's not the problem, the problem is that I have to currently fish through my browser history to find all the sims when bugs get fixed

[balmy condor]

that's the point

[icy crater]

whispyr's browser history

[stoic needle]

[balmy condor]

make sure to always have it on second monitor when streaming

[wet ruin]

just link the sims with the pictures

[spice spire]

It’s just anime and stats

[balmy condor]

too much clutter

[stoic needle]

he can't let the viewers see the catboy maid outfits in his history

[spice spire]

That’s the browser history I assume

[coral pawn]

ilvl 187 Lashing conduit is up on a WQ in maldraxxus right now

[wet ruin]

maybe a separate pin with just the links to everything

[fringe dust]

thanks lol this is good to know

[balmy condor]

its uh, spreadsheets, wcl, raidbots, youtube, and githubs

oh and school stuff obviously

[wide ridge]

I think i'm softlocked renown 29 🥴 won't get any more renown from any source. +14/+15s and raid bosses

[balmy condor]

did you do the campaign

[spice spire]

Have you done the covenant campaign?

[wide ridge]

yes

im 9/9

[balmy condor]

then you're not softlocked

go farm more

[spice spire]

Yeye

[wide ridge]

garbage system

[dusky yoke]

i have the same problem but 11 renown

[limber lion]

@balmy condor So, defensive sheet when?

[nocturne hawk]

!bis command should be

[sleek otter]

Im somehow bugged on Venthyr questline, waiting for blizzard to fix it

[frozen karma]

I'm 29 as well, just waiting tomorrow for the 2 weeklies, 3 callings and world boss to be at 35

[dusky yoke]

But no i havent done the campaign because im fucking buged at Chapter 1...

[covert mesa]

Im 9/9 and only 24 😦

[balmy condor]

when I have time and people

[iron orchid]

Is THiS thE BiS SoulBINd TrEe ?

[stoic needle]

Hey I've been submitting a lot of stuff to the sheet

[balmy condor]

I see that, it's appreciated

[icy crater]

LOL

[vestal wren]

#off-topic <-- this way

[stoic needle]

[buoyant mauve]

the meme I spent a whole 30 seconds on

[spice spire]

F.

[limber lion]

Eww people

[sleek otter]

RiP 😦

[icy crater]

guys assa chat is slowly degenerating the more buffs the spec gets

[elfin valley]

@balmy condor just curious how do u sim whats on PTR? is there a script i can post in advanced sim so i can sim for it?

[balmy condor]

ptr=1 at the top of advanced

[elfin valley]

ty

[tender fjord]

Cloaked in shadows over nimble fingers?

[iron orchid]

personal preference

[spice spire]

Sub’s just moved topics is all

[wide ridge]

cloaked in shadows so you can enter stealth with a dot or something =

[iron orchid]

It allows you to remain stealthy even when walking in aoes in dungeons

[tender fjord]

I don’t really know any uses for cloaked outside of pvp from the top of my head

[iron orchid]

useful in PF for example

[tender fjord]

That’s true

I got flamed upon when trying to sap the guy top of stair before 3rd boss SoA 😂

[gloomy fern]

200 lashing first wq

[iron orchid]

You can also tank a bit of that bursting at the end of a pack by going into stealth

[gloomy fern]

even got 2

[tender fjord]

Could have used that conduit when I entered his magic pool

I might try it, I just use feint so often that I auto choose nimble fingers

[oblique flare]

finished the campaign, now I'm stuck at 28 renown

[wide ridge]

real talk tho

[oblique flare]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-kid-tantrums-gif-15375793

[wide ridge]

why does it cost 1 conduit crystal to put a conduit for the first time?

[limber lion]

ez 2 renown on reset day

[coral pawn]

cant even do the fucking campaign

[oblique flare]

I want it now

[stoic needle]

Do you run cheat or elusiveness dei sama

[tender fjord]

You’re more invested in your character that way I suppose is what they think

[wide ridge]

elusiveness in dgs

[iron orchid]

Always run cheat, partly because i'm trashy, mostly because in a dungeon a 6 minute cd is not that high

[wide ridge]

bro i'm starving for conduit crystals smh

[slender berry]

conduit energy is for meaningful choices , you always have the meaningful choice of leeaving it empty after switching covs

[stoic needle]

I'm trash too cheat saved my ass so much this week

[iron orchid]

Most things that would usually kill you can be feinted anyways

[next solar]

iirc, didn't the max sim have something like 1200 base haste?

[iron orchid]

Only dot ticks could be dangerous, most of which you could cloak if too risky

[tender fjord]

I’ve been there. Then I decided to use marileth soulbind for pvp, emeni for outlul, heirmir for assass. Don’t optimise but just roll with it

[iron orchid]

As for Sanguine depths dots, fuch this shit

[true rapids]

I need some help so I will have 8k soul ash tomorrow after I do torg. I need some combo of celerity/doomblade/zoldyck what should be the crafting priority?

[next solar]

what do you plan on doing? pvp? raid? m+?

[limber lion]

ditch the celerity, get 190 zoldyck and as high doomy as you can

[true rapids]

raiding mythic prog were 3/10 rn been playing sub and outlaw

[limber lion]

:---)

[true rapids]

so i have 235 finality and 235 MA already

[slender berry]

235 doomblade

[next solar]

I wish theyd implement a soul ash "DE"

[stoic needle]

Actually you should wait

[next solar]

im gonna craft a 235 DB then just sit outlaw for m+

[stoic needle]

Because there will be new sims after the pandemic bug is fixed in simc

Dashing could be better and Zoldyck as well

[iron orchid]

We still don't even know if that's a "bug"

[nocturne hawk]

but maim, mangle!

[thorn turtle]

Got 34 renown today, and 1 dung away from ksm, gonna get it tomorrow before reset

[sharp falcon]

what do we not know if it's a bug?

[stoic needle]

It's fixed on the ptr

[sharp falcon]

envenom pandemic?

[wide ridge]

tomorrow's affixes are aids tho

[stoic needle]

Until 9.0 envenom pandemiced

It broke on sl release

On ptr it pandemics again

[sharp falcon]

yeah, it was a bug

[slender berry]

isnt that a straight dps buff if it gets fixed?

[eternal wave]

Storming? Outlaw double elbows eeez

[stoic needle]

Yes

[sharp falcon]

for assassin? yes

[stoic needle]

Like 100

[next solar]

so who wants to make a bet that there will be some random wq trinket that has some silly interaction with assass/DS

[stoic needle]

we've tested them all, none of them are good enough to make up the 20+ ilvl difference between them and the raid trinkets

[wide ridge]

still saving mine

just in case

[true rapids]

so what I am taking away is wait for sims but probably just make doomblade?

[icy crater]

sameee

[next solar]

that CD just doesn't seem worth it to me

CD time*

[wide ridge]

lines up with vendetta

wdym

[limber lion]

How many hours until NA reset?

[icy crater]

That same trinket was good in bfa

[drifting cloud]

save it for when exsang becomes meta

[icy crater]

from that one dungeon

put a haste circle on the floor

[wide ridge]

shrine of the storm

ye

was good

[limber lion]

Is NA reset in 17 hours?

[stoic needle]

Yeah

[next solar]

@wide ridge just doesn't seem like it would make up the dps difference from the other trinkets during that 1:48 second window

[limber lion]

Okay cool cool

https://gyazo.com/05b8d93d968c5d06d30dd573192607eb
This is my life. Really need to find a m+ group

[next solar]

but again, we shall find it

out*

[wide ridge]

yeah, as I said, saving it just in case

i think 194 is as high as it can be if im not mistaken

[stoic needle]

But bro you're the #1 sin rogue world

[gloomy fern]

oh nice i got to keep my neutral companions at lvl 40

[stoic needle]

Meatball hard carrying

[wide ridge]

also the paladin

cronan or something

[stoic needle]

I only managed to get my nf companions up to lvl 30ish anyway and my venthyr ones are the same

[gloomy fern]

troops are in giga lvl

they will suck when i get more companions though

[wide ridge]

just don get any more companions

[normal crater]

You can get 203

[wide ridge]

hao

never seen

[normal crater]

I got a 203 bell from an epic calling awhile back

[limber lion]

But someone said I was #1 rogue in the world. not just sin

But yeah idk, finding groups is rough idk why

Do pugs hate rogues

Like I only apply to groups that give me a +1 upgrade to my previously completed key. It's not like I apply to a +20 while having done a +17

[iron orchid]

ok nvm then let's go

[iron orchid]

Then mostly hate melees

they hate everything that ain't fire mage, MM hunt, balance druid

[stoic needle]

Yep

Get a group man

I got Ksm the next week after getting a group

[iron orchid]

we tried SD 19 again tonight

such a joke

everything was going "well"

then you get to the last corridor

[stoic needle]

Is general kaal acting wierd in the gauntlet for you too?!?

[iron orchid]

[stoic needle]

she doesn't run back when phased anymore

and the mobs just snap onto you randomly

its so fucking glitchy

in the 3 SD i did this week it happened every time

[iron orchid]

I don't have this kind of bug

[thorn turtle]

I’m 1 dung away from ksm, did all as assa

[iron orchid]

but the damage income is just fucking insane

[stoic needle]

just fuck me then i guess

[upper summit]

is venthyr the way to go for a new aspiring assa rog?

[limber lion]

Yes sir.

[thorn turtle]

Looks like

[iron orchid]

One time, we had the boss standing still at a weird place but we'd wiped right before and it was kinda glitchy

[stoic needle]

why would you not want to look like this

[upper summit]

that is pretty cool i agree

[iron orchid]

Horde

[limber lion]

I'm planning to push for 2k tomorrow

[stoic needle]

we did the bridge skip where you skip the overseer + 2 others. when we got to the gauntlet they literally teleported through the floor and wiped us while we were fighting kaal and bricked the key

[limber lion]

I don't have any responsibilities tomorrow

[strange python]

Does vent transmog look good on undead?

[iron orchid]

[limber lion]

It's gonna be rough because I don't have a group to do it with so gotta pug it

[strange python]

Been trying to find someone with that for undead for the longest lol can’t seem to find it though

[iron orchid]

if you surpass me

imma become so useless here

[stoic needle]

it looks fine but i think undead just have a wonky model to begin with

[iron orchid]

[stoic needle]

i still dont know how i got ksm before whispyr

[iron orchid]

Cos all whispyr loves are numbers and sims

so he puts no effort into the game itself

[strange python]

Yea man I been thinking of changing it lmao but I don’t wanna be an elf cause everyone is

[iron orchid]

he just sims all day

[stoic needle]

orc is good

[limber lion]

What rating are you atm?

[stoic needle]

there's a lot of options

[iron orchid]

1788

[limber lion]

We boys support each other

No one's useless here

Ah I'm 1708

[stoic needle]

triple rh rogue keys when?

[limber lion]

Pog

[iron orchid]

wish I had 1800 this week but we had no luck with the keys we got

and still training as a team

[stoic needle]

could you imagine how shit triple sin rogue would be in keys

[strange python]

what is non mfd opener/

[ionic kelp]

still would miss kicks

[strange python]

Yea I was thinking troll but I freaking hate the feet situation

[woven needle]

@stoic needle what's that xmog

[stoic needle]

those feet

[stoic needle]

venthyr covenant chest and legs, daggers and blade cape, legion pvp shoulders and gloves, world boss leather boots

[woven needle]

Ty

[stoic needle]

CN belt

[strange python]

I’ll just unlock zandalari troll to wear boots

Wait I’m stupid same situation

[echo cargo]

lightless force kinda slaps in m+ as venth

[iron orchid]

Next week no push, I gotta farm valor

[visual token]

What does rank 7 conduit mean? I only see them as item levels like 200 and suich

[manic harness]

D:

[balmy condor]

200 is rank 5, 213 is rank 6

[strange python]

Do you guys focus on race dps gain?

[manic harness]

I don't want to buy new daggers for M+ just so I can put LF on them

[iron orchid]

go back to sims

[echo cargo]

enchants are cheap, just swap out when you push 😮

[iron orchid]

when is your stream up huh

[manic harness]

It's given very, very little discussion

[cunning musk]

Wait...Whispyr streams?

[manic harness]

yes

and he listens to Senzawa

and it's glorious

[echo cargo]

I was running 2x lightless in a mists 18 and it did almost 5% of my overall tho

[cunning musk]

Where is link Whispyr?

[balmy condor]

CWUNTWY WOOOOADS

[balmy condor]

in profile

[crimson palm]

[manic harness]

listen

if you play Rogue

and you don't listen to the GOAT Senzawa

you are doing it fucking wrong

go jack off to Trivium and play Warrior if you want to

Rogues are a meme class and we need meme music

[strange python]

Yea I think imma jus go with troll

Undead just ain’t doing it for me no more the armor looks ew

[manic harness]

You can go for the freshly rotten look

[strange python]

Especially if I’m going to venthyr 😍 I’m leaving night fae

[manic harness]

It actually makes UD look pretty good

[strange python]

Freshly rotten?

[manic harness]

Yes

[strange python]

I’m lost

[manic harness]

You can change how rotten their skin and armor looks

Make a new toon, go to Customize

it's option 2

[stoic needle]

even with that their model still kinda sucks

[manic harness]

Bony, Mottled, Fresh

[strange python]

Yea I did that I’m fresh but still ehh

It’s alright though I have like 300$ on a GameStop card so 20 for a troll won’t hurt lol

[stoic needle]

orcs have solid models

[strange python]

Orcs are deff solid

But I wanna b skinny

And trolls give a rogue look sneaky and dark kinda

[ionic fox]

Anyone ever talk about how Mechagnome is literally a 50 dps upgrade over every other race for most all classes.. It literaly gives 400 Main stat through an entire raid fight

If i ever find myself on Alliance I wonder if i'll take dps over looking like a child

[stoic needle]

never

they are so hideous that it's not worth it

style is worth 1000 dps after all

[ionic fox]

mhmmmm

[eternal timber]

I know this is a terrible prompt, but I can’t seem to remember. There’s an ability that stacks with Zoldyck, correct? Anyone know what it is? I think it might be a covenant ability? I’m totally blanking.

[slender berry]

u wot m8?

[ionic fox]

LOL

Better have 99 avg parses on Mythic

[slender berry]

thats the pure definitin of looking sick

[torpid spoke]

With new flag changes

[slender berry]

my looks alone are worth 99 parses

[torpid spoke]

Do you want to do it before or during pillar for sludge

[ionic fox]

if you gain the haste right away use it while hes running in

i forget the exact changes

[torpid spoke]

Oh so you do it before the run and you still get haste and shadow damage per combo point

[ionic fox]

If it acts as a global you def want to canst as hes running in

[stoic needle]

[slender berry]

id assume with the conduit since flag hits hard aswell you wanna use it with the pillar debuff on him

maybe if you get a extra envenom with the haste you use it earlier but youd have to test it

[ionic fox]

if it's an instant yes but if its a global i'd use it when he runs away from you

[slender berry]

pretty sure thats a bad time to use it

flag hits so hard so you definitly wanna get the double dmg on it

the new duration is also 12 seconds same duration as the debuff on sludgefist

[stoic needle]

flag does 50% of your attack power damage on use

probably best to make it your first gcd on sludge as he hits the pillar

[slender berry]

250% with the conduit no ?

[stoic needle]

especially if you have 5cp stored up(which you should)

oh yeah true

[turbid frigate]

Is it possible to sim with 9.0.5 changes Tomorrow if i’m from eu?

[tribal marlin]

usually ptr sims are mostly ready to be launched on patch day

and they are

so yes

[turbid frigate]

Nice ty

[stoic needle]

hopefully we get the envenom pandemic fix in there too tomorrow

[tribal marlin]

Anyway Raidbot always notify on their main page when balance change are up to date

[tribal marlin]

this shouldn't be a problem

I believe it's like 1 or 2% ?

[balmy condor]

it will be in nightly tonight

[stoic needle]

nice

[eternal wave]

Shite they're fixing it?

Assa gonna be the first spec to sim 8k ST lol

[balmy condor]

I thought spriest already can do that

[hybrid sluice]

which soulbind should we be using for venth?

[balmy condor]

nadjia

for single target

and theotar is ahead slightly in aoe

[hybrid sluice]

ty

[tribal marlin]

anyone bothered checking if Dashing still increase Envenom crit on PTR ?

I guess i'll do later

but I checked Zoldyck and it still doesn't increase env damage

Ok I know why Zoldyck doesn't take Envenom in

it's a big P

but Mastery and Dashing is normal "p"

so big P = only poisons

and little p = poisons and envenom

[amber trench]

think you mean dashing and not zoldyck

[icy crater]

is it big or little p on dashing

[bitter nova]

so venthyr assass the big dam on 9.0.5?

[slender berry]

necro and venthyr both are big dam

hell even NF is big dam

[rigid tartan]

Are you serious? 😄

[slender berry]

venthyr slightly bigger dam on st

[trim zinc]

thats so dumb, they should say isntead u have to know that kinda stuff

[tribal marlin]

haha don't take it as an absolute truth

[rigid tartan]

Is that miki trolling?

[tribal marlin]

i'm trying to make sense of this

which is obviously inconsistant

[slender berry]

they should just say nature damage and deal with the collateral

[rigid tartan]

Big p small p must be trolling

[trim zinc]

like i didnt know that mastery buffs envenon cuz it doesnt say in any tooltip

[balmy condor]

this is a joke right

[tribal marlin]

idk

[limber lion]

Huge discovery

[slender berry]

mastery doesnt affect envenom tho

[balmy condor]

(say yes)

[tribal marlin]

Zoldyck is the only case where there is big P on Poisons

[balmy condor]

(the point is that it is)

that's.... not how code works

[trim zinc]

hmmmmm no?

[stoic needle]

yes it does

[dawn ivy]

no no hes got a point

hes on to something

[icy crater]

it is if you use a getter for the class name in the tooltip XD

[dawn ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/morpheus-believe-neo-beginning-to-believe-gif-5399492

[trim zinc]

mastery does buffs envenon

[thorn dove]

im planning on playing assin for single target and outlaw for m+, which cov is best for this after patch? thanks in advance

[slender berry]

wowhead has wrong info then , mb i guess

[tribal marlin]

yes ofc but like, we assumed it was a bug because otherwise it would be inconsistant. But if "Poisons" is weapon poisons, and "poisons" is more generic, then it's not inconsistant anymore xD

[somber hill]

So does zold only buff ur dots then and not enven dmg?

[tribal marlin]

Well actually Zoldyck also buff Poison Bomb

but not envenom

[somber hill]

i have only played sub and outlaw so i dont know im legit asking cus i plan to return to sin

[gloomy fern]

fuck im ending up last on meters in lfr

unlucky

[quick vale]

Should I press flag on cd or save it for vendetta ?

[limber lion]

Sync it with Vendetta if you don't miss a cast.

If you're not sure, just press it on cooldown

[quick vale]

cool tyvm for the answer

[silent tinsel]

Would holding it for 30 seconds be worth?

cause use it immediatly and now its 1 minute offsync from vendetta

[limber lion]

I literally just said that.

[silent tinsel]

I was asking ironically

[limber lion]

You sync it with Vendetta (by delaying it for 30s) if you don't miss a cast.

wat

[silent tinsel]

or was it rhetorically

I forgot

[limber lion]

Yeah, not sure you know what ironic means.

But yes, it is worth delaying it

[hollow barn]

It’s neither tbh

[limber lion]

But only if you don't miss a cast during the encounter.

If you get 4 flag casts instead of 5, it's not worth.

[frozen jasper]

Do i get the lashing scars conduit only from world boss or are there other ways to get it ?

[silent tinsel]

Till yesterday I though flagellate meant something lewd

[covert mesa]

Callings

[dawn ivy]

it can be

[frozen jasper]

Do have to be venthyr tho Right ?

[dawn ivy]

yes

[frozen jasper]

Aight wasnt sure ty

[limber lion]

• World boss
• Callings (Epic and normal)
• Sire Denathrius

Sire will start dropping the conduit after the reset.

[weary marten]

how about ven'ari ?

if it's the only one you are missing, would it get unlocked ?

[hard pivot]

I got a venari upgrade for it the other day. Pure luck tho since I had a bunch of 200 conduits. It just happened to pick lashing to bump to 213

[wise gull]

Obviously it isn't ideal, but if rupture or garrote are going to expire during your Shiv window, do you wait until afterwards to refresh? Or skip the envenom and refresh bleeds

[weary marten]

maybe you should plan a bit ahead of shiv coming back ? and refresh dots before shiv

like you do for example on sub when you plan your SnD and rupture to not drop during SD

[wise gull]

For sure, that's why I said it wasn't ideal

I'm just wondering what the better option is in those scenarios

[limber lion]

Yes

[nocturne hawk]

^ you could be chained to an idiot on sludgefist

and not be able to get your refreshes up lol

[limber lion]

Always prioritize having your bleeds up

[weary marten]

i don't know if it's right way to do dps-wise but i would keep bleeds up first anyway @wise gull

cuz it's your regen and a huge part of your dmg still

and dot clipping for longer duration

[wise gull]

can't wait until CttC tomorrow, feel like it'll be a lot better to manage

It just always feels like whenever my bleeds aren't going to drop off, snd will

[weary marten]

what does CttC mean though ? not familiar will all since english not in game language ^^'

[wise gull]

cut to the chase

[weary marten]

oooooh yeah

[wise gull]

SnD being extended by envenom

yee

[weary marten]

that's good to have it back

kinda low cost version

[nocturne hawk]

all that saved cp

[weary marten]

good old times was "full duration snd" but at least we get it kinda back

[nocturne hawk]

mmm mmmm

[reef axle]

So sire would drop a 220 lashing on heroic won’t he?

[weary marten]

i think yes

[wise gull]

Oh yeah, another question. Are the current sims including the buffed trinkets on ptr?

[lament mica]

there are no 220 condis

it would be 213

[weary marten]

oh so 213

[limber lion]

Don't think so. The trinket buffs are very recent.

[reef axle]

So tomorrow’s the day 🤔 keen to see how we perform.

[fleet anchor]

Trinket changes have been in for some time

But realistically it's only like 0.3% DPS

[stoic needle]

the trinket buffs seem to be a side effect of the stat rounding formula changes they did that gave every spec like 50 dps

[dawn ivy]

any new trinkets worth looking at?

[stoic needle]

not really, they're all just as good as before

everything got buffed

[stable arch]

how good is the necrotic wake trinket for assa

[stoic needle]

it's fine

[fleet anchor]

It's not specifically a side effect of the formula, they specifically updated the damage replace stat table to buff damage trinket scaling by about 10%

[stoic needle]

not as good as phial

[dawn ivy]

yeah it kinda seemed like they all got buffed by the same %

[stable arch]

aah the good ol phial

never have it seen dropping

[fleet anchor]

The rounding was an unrelated issue

[stable arch]

not on my tank, not on my rogue

[fleet anchor]

The damage trinket scaling change is across basically all ilevels

[stoic needle]

interesting...

[fleet anchor]

We assume they were uncomfortable with how strong stat trinkets were

In comparison

Considering 200ish on use stat trinkets were basically on par with 220 damage trinkets

[stoic needle]

were they really?

[fleet anchor]

Yes

[stoic needle]

i thought they were worse

rip my wakener's frond dreams

[simple igloo]

Why is haste so (relatively) bad for dungeons?

[limber lion]

https://gyazo.com/997ff69e6c00f34a2bf247c38abe8284

We pumpin' tomorrow boys.

[fleet anchor]

I mean my 198 Frond was essentially identical to my 220 Vessel

[stoic needle]

it's not

aoe stat priorities are haste + crit

[fleet anchor]

So yeah, I assume that's what they are trying to address lol

[stoic needle]

jesus lol

[simple igloo]

So IV is wrong/out of date?

[buoyant mauve]

I just used the ep/ns/mfd build on sludge in lfr and hitting a 35k envenom makes me want to join oshosi on his crusade a little

[fleet anchor]

Considering Vessel is better than so many others

[stoic needle]

yeah that's not correct

[balmy condor]

tes

fuck

[fleet anchor]

Frond would beat most of the others at 220

[balmy condor]

yes

whatever

[tribal marlin]

frond ?

[thorn turtle]

Time to get those wq trinkets

[lament mica]

stat weights are just silly just equip wats better

[fleet anchor]

This bad boy

[tribal marlin]

oh ok ok

yeah I noticed already haste on use was good

[stoic needle]

the vendetta sync

[icy crater]

That's like galecallers or whatever from bfa

[tribal marlin]

Macabre sheet was simming better than my shriek

[stoic needle]

i guess 226 iqd would have been really massive

[fleet anchor]

So yeah I assume their idea was just to buff damaging trinkets across the board by about 10% to stave it off without it being a nerf to people

[limber lion]

This is probably information from when bleeds/poisons didn't scale from haste back in BFA.

[tribal marlin]

i'm not because of 3mn cd

[stoic needle]

ah true i always forget that iqd has a longer cd

[wise gull]

ty!

[thorn turtle]

Just noticed, nw trinket buff says it does 160 msg over 3 secs, wtf

Dmg *

As a 226

[quaint phoenix]

I can't turn in the venthyr chapt 1 quest

Renathal is just not where he is supposed to be

[limber lion]

A lot of people have had issues with this. Hopefully gets fixed with the reset.

[quaint phoenix]

Blizz is telling i should stay nf🥲

[wise gull]

Okay and one other question then I'm done I swear

[dawn ivy]

nope youve already asked too many

[wise gull]

How far behind zoldyck was doomblade prebuff?

[dawn ivy]

try again tomorrow

[wise gull]

[slender berry]

according to fuu sheet they were exactly the same on ST

[stoic needle]

they'll be closer with the envenom bug fixed

[stone pilot]

did it actually get fixed?

[slender berry]

doesnt the envenom bug fix also make vigor a bit stronger compared to deeper?

[stoic needle]

no? why would it

[slender berry]

idk id assume you happen to get less situations where you would pandemic with deeper

[stoic needle]

deeper is better than vigor because the flag haste makes the energy from vigor uneccesary

[slender berry]

still it should close the gap by a few dps

especially on non venthyr

[stoic needle]

doubtful

[thorn turtle]

Still gonna run mfd

[slender berry]

yea idk just feelycrafting

[tender folio]

Haha I love this last pin that was made 😄

[stoic needle]

as much as i wish we could we aren't outlaw

[thorn turtle]

Idk, I love mfd, and it aims better for me

Sims*

[cobalt kindle]

pandemic envenom bug fixed?

[agile geode]

guys

i need help

im on quest "prove your worth" for getting back venthyr

is there another quest to do after?

or just this and wait for next reset to start build renown

?

[oblique flare]

always 2 quests to rejoin

[agile geode]

the second one what kind of quest is?

[oblique flare]

1 per reset

[agile geode]

oh

damn

kk

ty

[oblique flare]

so if you finish it now and turn in, you should be able to get the 2nd one on reset

[wide ridge]

doomblade bleed doesn't give energy via venomous wounds, does it?

[bitter drift]

Why is wowhead saying NF for Sin?

[thorn turtle]

Also make sure just to do m0s of your cov, gives 12% per boss @agile geode

[limber lion]

No, it's specifically garrote/rupture

[agile geode]

yy

ty

with the second one

i still can get renown next week?

or not?

[wise gull]

Yes, you have to finish the second quest though

[lament mica]

garrote rupture and the dot from kidney if ur specced ya

[knotty sparrow]

Did they mention anything about the Subterfuge + Sepsis bug that breaks stealth? I literally stopped playing Subterfuge because of it

[lament mica]

but thats just a pvp thing

[thorn turtle]

The only covenant I don’t have at 30 renown is nf

[agile geode]

ok thx

thanks guys

[thorn turtle]

So I can reroll freely

[bitter drift]

So NF is the best covenant for Sin?

[wise gull]

Until tomorrow :p

[thorn turtle]

Can’t wait to open up bloodmallet on Wednesday morning

[bitter drift]

This is 9.0.5

So undoubtedly Sin M+ is NF

Probably cause Korayn and Doomblade

[reef axle]

that being said, venth would still be completely fine for m plus

[iron orchid]

"undoubtedly" doesn't mean much till we all have our hands on the patch

[bitter drift]

Supposedly you’re right

[thorn turtle]

Till we get our damage skyrocketed by venthyr stuff

[hybrid sluice]

ive started 2 venthyr's this week, renathal not there on either of them. What worked for me was doing the revendreth WQ daily, when i turn in the quest for the cache, the quest completes and you can move on.

[iron orchid]

I'd say Night fae is probably the most rewarding covenant for sin if you look at a dmg/investment ratio

[thorn turtle]

Had 90%+ parses on 14-15 keys, imagine the final form on reset

[limber lion]

No, it's literally just garrote and rupture.

The VW passive specifies them very clearly, doesn't leave any room for interpretation.

[lament mica]

its also the kidney dot. literally spec intoo it then check ur spellbook

[limber lion]

Wat

Is it dynamic

[lament mica]

i would log on my rogue right now if i weren't raiding

yes

it is

[stoic needle]

lfr sire

[limber lion]

Because it doesn't say bleeds, it says gar/rup

Welp ok then lol

[iron orchid]

You're hurting yourself man

[stoic needle]

it does say internal bleeding

[limber lion]

I'm not logged on atm myself so can't say

[thorn turtle]

While pressing 3 buttons

[limber lion]

Ok I stand corrected

[stoic needle]

ah fuck i forgot to loot him for the renown >_>

[gleaming reef]

question is this really correct? Wouldn't opener be better with ambush kyrian ability then envenom in that 3 sec crit window?

[stoic needle]

i'm big dumb

[stoic needle]

for pure burst damage, yes. for overall dps, no. you need to get up slice and mut asap

does the renown get mailed to you

[thorn turtle]

Nah

[low girder]

no, slice and dice is the largest dmg increase, and especially after patch you'll want it up so you can start refreshing

also ambush is worth less than mut because of the combo point difference

[reef axle]

so we open with lashings in 9.0.5?

[gleaming reef]

but doesn't envenom give u slice next patch?

[low girder]

it refreshes

[reef axle]

u still have to cast it once

[low girder]

it has to be up first

[vital haven]

you need to apply it first

[gleaming reef]

ah didn't know that

[limber lion]

You def don't want to do that as NF nor Venthyr.

[thorn turtle]

Ez for mfd gang

[nocturne orchid]

oh shit i forgot to make zoldyck

[gleaming eagle]

going to name my son zoldyck

[spice spire]

Anime reference for the kid? Oof

[tribal marlin]

As venthyr would make sense to use Flag after Vendetta

it does a good amount of damage

[wise gull]

Flag macrod with Vendetta bad y/n

(with flag also alone on a separate bind)

[spice spire]

I mean sure, but why

[limber lion]

Why tho

[wise gull]

Just coming from Sub and having Shadowstrike on my blades/big cd macro

just trying to make it feel similar

[spice spire]

Just press the buttons simultaneously macro a trinket on vendetta lol

[limber lion]

No reason for that on Assa.

Sub is different because it uses Shadow Blades, Shadow Dance and Symbols

We have just Vendetta

[thorn turtle]

Two buttons hard

[tribal marlin]

Actually I wonder about the opener

[wise gull]

I mean I have no issue doing it separate, that's not what I'm saying

Just wondering if there's a potential downside

be nice pogfrog 😦

[thorn turtle]

Im joking man

[wise gull]

me too

[thorn turtle]

[limber lion]

What about it?

[thorn turtle]

Do u use ambush in the opener btw?

Or multiple garrotes?

[wise gull]

appreciate the help btw

it's scary stepping foot out of the sub/outlaw bubble

[thorn turtle]

It’s fine here

[spice spire]

This is the easiest bubble of the three

[thorn turtle]

Ez 90% or more parses on m+

[wise gull]

still gonna play outlaw for m+

[thorn turtle]

I have purple orange ones easily

[wise gull]

cuz i really like it

[thorn turtle]

Yeah feels good

[wise gull]

gonna miss first strike tho

[thorn turtle]

But time to get double daggers from the dusty shelves

Has come

[wise gull]

nope, mine are nice and polished

still play sub in raid

[thorn turtle]

Was forced to play it, yucky

[signal gulch]

add me to the list of people that swapped covenants without swapping anima

[thorn turtle]

Too hard for my double digit iq

[spice spire]

OOF

@ both

[wise gull]

sub is definitely looked down on more than it should be

[thorn turtle]

Did all covenants besides nf without anima swap

[wise gull]

people see the overall nathria charts and think its giga bad

[limber lion]

I actually thought about doing the anima-swap thingy, but I just couldn't give enough of a shit about some silly tea party or transport network

[wise gull]

[limber lion]

So I didn't.

[thorn turtle]

So true @limber lion

[signal gulch]

yeah i dont really need anything but i still want to have big number of anima

[wise gull]

swapping anima?

[limber lion]

Yeah, it doesn't really give much. It's just added color to the covenant fantasy, but that's about it

[tender folio]

Just roll with the theme that you like

I stuck with Venth from the start

[thorn turtle]

Got necro Kyrian and venth to 30-34, stuck with venth

[tender folio]

I even rarely went to Bastion overall, that thing is too bright for my eyes

[manic harness]

Does arena drop renown?

[wise gull]

@tender folio inky black potions are your friend

tell me more about this anima swap

is this real

[signal gulch]

if you buy anima gear from the vendor person

you can refund it with new covenant person

[wise gull]

ty

[signal gulch]

its not a perfect swap but youll get most of it

[cunning surge]

200 iq plays

[tender folio]

Noice

[wise gull]

I just want my oribos portal faster

[manic harness]

I just saw that black dagger cape for vampy boys

[tender folio]

That portal is everything ❤️

[thorn turtle]

I got gold for token for selling 100 anima pieces for gold

[manic harness]

ladies and gentlemen I am GETTING DAT SHIT

[tender folio]

What do you mean black ?

[quiet juniper]

does the necrotic wake's trinket Bottled Flayedwing Toxin is good for assa ? or does it cancel our deadly poison ?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=178742/bottled-flayedwing-toxin?bonus=6805:1472

[tender folio]

There are red and gray

[manic harness]

There's a black variant

https://www.wowhead.com/item=183707/mantle-of-burnished-blades

[thorn turtle]

It doesn’t @quiet juniper

[manic harness]

DATS SOME GOOD SHIT RIGHT DERE

[thorn turtle]

[quiet juniper]

it isn't good or it does not cancel our deadly poison ?

[tender folio]

I have those , they are gray

[manic harness]

oh

still

[tender folio]

Just to let you know

[thorn turtle]

Doesn’t cancel poison

[manic harness]

I'm getting it regardless lmao

[tender folio]

You need mirror network rank 3 for it

[thorn turtle]

But phial still better

[tender folio]

It has a % to drop from a chest

[manic harness]

Yep

[tender folio]

Im farming the set atm

for those daggers

[manic harness]

Do you know of any more secret tmogs like that?

[tender folio]

It will take some time

[manic harness]

which daggers?

[tender folio]

There are same daggers like that one on the back as well

[quiet juniper]

why not both ?

[reef axle]

when the tank requires 5 brezzes on a single encounter in lfr....

[tender folio]

That you can tmog as weaps

[thorn turtle]

Haven’t seen phial drop at all @quiet juniper

[wise gull]

I'm gonna get phial in vault this week

[thorn turtle]

Dm me if you do

[wise gull]

jk im gonna get 3 cloaks

[thorn turtle]

I’m gonna kms instead of ksm

[quiet juniper]

I have it ilv 104, it will make do

but another poison with the zoldyck legendary, master poisoner and exsanguinate seems rly fun

[thorn turtle]

Exsanguinate fears me cuz no alacrity

Need more haste

[knotty sparrow]

I got a 226 phial in the vault last week so I’ve basically retired from m+

[signal gulch]

both times ive done a 10-13 instead of a 15 i get trinkets

220iqd 223 phial 🙂

[quiet juniper]

why ? does haste speed up our dot damage or only for energi regen ?

[knotty sparrow]

Nom nom haste as sin

[thorn turtle]

Also dots

[manic harness]

Lafias, do you know their names? I'd love to take a look

[thorn turtle]

I have 23% haste unbuffed

[tender folio]

@manic harness

[knotty sparrow]

I’m at 29% vers 20% haste

[tender folio]

These one

[quiet juniper]

so the damage I see writen on my spell such has rupture is based on mastery and haste ?

[manic harness]

OH GOD DAMN I WANT

[tender folio]

Im currently working on it :3

[quiet juniper]

its weird since its not writen anywhere that haste does that :/

[thorn turtle]

Stats don’t change the tooltip

But haste has always been prio for assa

[tender folio]

@manic harness [Rogue Researcher's Dagger] these are the daggers

[quiet juniper]

so what's the relation between haste and dot damage ? Is that just common knowledge at that point ?