#assassination
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after getting shafted for luck for what felt like forever getting goraks made everything ok
i'm just gonna grab the better shoulders from raid and be happy
do you get angry irl when you get to him in WCM
no, but there are 2 shoulders in the raid
best slot to gamble for?
@faint harness well technically there are buttt.....
just asking for my rogue alt
shoulders ๐ฏ
shoulders 
Doesnt chest have more possibilities to be a decent slot lol
chest from raid is decent tho
only a few 100 dps difference
Radiance shoulders have loyal and DD tho
think it was at like 200-250 dps diff
i think the other shoulders are better
cus they have OP
I'll take it as consolidation for the terrible RNG game
zaqul helm, radiance shoulders and behe chest is decent azerite
engineering head as well
I want a zaqul helm
think you've had enough for one day. gonna have to cut you off
https://gyazo.com/da931e8263d166a1d777363c79d286ec just get this, heard its pumping with filthy + scheming combo
!essence
Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd
not looking forward to the respec dance im going to have to do when i get home once we down the first 3 and we are back on gorgonzola again... wtb backup azeritessss
Channeling Font of Power knocks you outta stealth now? even with Subt seems like
ive never had subt so its always knocked me out but yep thats what im being told, not sure if its a "fix" or not
oh interesting, pretty sure mine breaks as soon as the channel starts with MA
yeah why does it work differently every week. First u could channel with every talent , then only with subterfuge and now it knocks you out even with subterfuge
how can one trinket work differently every week 
hmmm so, can you stand next to boss with good timing and everything is fine? or do you get globaled at the end
can get 12sec, so the first tick and still do subt opener, nice for pvp i guess ๐
cant channel full anymore
but ye @cobalt flame , every week is fuckin different haha
not sure what you mean
well, losing subterfuge i guess
it breaks on the first tick?
yes
nah that would be great haha
We were doing 16 waycrest now and i was like im fucking sure i had stealth before i started channeling
ok well it looks like you are sstepping in like us now
and i noticed like 2 channels later
ye exactly ๐
at least it's consistent now
even if it's consistently shit
:')
thanks blizzard
lol
imagine my shock 2 weeks ago ninja pulling Ashvane with MA ๐ instagibbed and no clue wtf happend
well
just annoying theres no documentation on the changes anywhere
i guess i will use 445 radiance trinket + 445 galecaller or dice instead of font for dungeons ๐คท takes too long waiting for me to channel and stealth every time
or , how do you even use coral in dungeons?
you can never get stacks if everything dies can you?
well
you get the stacks of the mobs when they die
at least, thats what my guildie noticed, havent got it myself yet
ye, you get the stacks when the mob dies
and that buff can stack ontop of another one
its weird
basically on trash you keep spamming it on mobs
Raiment of BLighted Tribe 445 
welcome to the blighted tribe bro
i mean i got gorak tul first 445 shoulders so i deserve nothing else 
Stunkei to your comment on #outlaw is it only worth it to play sin M+ with 3 EB 3 SS or are less okayish
doin 30k + DPS as outlaw with decent gear
im not into sin m+ at all - im so used to outlaw for m+ i just stick to that, i cant live without gouge so i just respec my sin gear if im lookin to push otherwise i just have my back azerite for outlaw
i have the same lol ๐
afaik 3xEB 3xSS with blood3 can pump some good aoe but not sure what its like outside of that window
many more people in here to answer that question much more accurately than i can
would have only 1 EB and only 2 SS anyways so i stick to outlaw i guess
i think the general consensus that playing 3eb 3ss basically just makes you a worse version of outlaw
like, if you need that much trash damage there's no benefit to playing this spec unless you enjoy it
there are benefits in other areas of dungeons but eh
I am firmly in the outlaw gang for m+ now, it just provides more utility on top of not having to juggle azerite traits and respec every time its raid
speaking of which im heading home to respec for mythic now
the set i'm doing orgozoa in is so fucked up that like
i keep having to reforge between like
4 different trait sets
in 1 set of gear
poor soon :')
If im raiding with punch card and coral do i use punch card on pull with vendetta and delay getting stacks of coral or do i just use it outside of vendetta?
I only have to respec head for outlaw, thank god
i might try and find a compromise set for orgozoa so that i'm not playing 3wits which is useless for literally everything else during the week
how much consistent dps are people doing with outlaw for aoe? with 3x EB using no cooldowns i hold 72k vs 4 targets. ive been having a blast with it in m+ since it isnt cooldown reliant at all and maintains consistency more than anything ive ever played
but the difference last week to the next closest set that was like m+ playable on 4t patchwerk was like 4k
so i wa slike ah hhhhhh
Man i was blasting ST as outlaw on our orgozoa kill
Its def possible
if you dont run 3 wits i guess
Avahri on orogozoa i can hold close to 70k dps in p1 over several minutes
as outlaw
while doing about 41k st dps
assassination is pretty big ownage on 4size packs if they live like perfectly shrouded length
but that's just way too many caveats to a pull
also gimps ur ST to shit
compared to outlaw that can just sit there and slam away at main target
i only run EB on trash and m+ since i hate playing outlaw
Not fond of outlaw myself, but i dont think spamming fok is a big difference
i enjoy both thankfully so i kinda just play whatever my gear is for the week

I managed to get my RL send me some gold for the outlaw respecs on orgozoa, mans aint cheap
if it gets extortionate
i'll yoink the money myself
it's still pretty tolerable for now though
just a pain in the ass
Does having lust during opener change when you want to use lucid dreams?
havent played with lucid major since week 1 of 8.2
but yea i would suppose so
you dont want to overcap ur energy
it doesn't like change the condition for when you use it it's just going to push it back naturally
probably by only like 5 seconds or so though
Ahhk, I see, so probably after your second MA wears off
If im raiding with punch card and coral do i use punch card on pull with vendetta and delay getting stacks of coral or do i just use it outside of vendetta?
you delay the punchcard, im quite sure
coral at start, blast when you wont overcap energy
just apply your coral first global
even if you were playing punchcard+fking nothing
i doubt you'd use card inside vendetta
sweet
and if im using normal coral use dice over punch card?
the only time it might be questionable is if you'd lose 1 use but thats stretching it
"normal coral" 
the ilvl on your dice matters too
the punchcard is really strong until you get like 430+ coral/font
yup yup
ur fucking azerite
is actually insane

i sim at 47.5k and i'd say i have decent gear
but thats just nuts
another week of 440 base boots from the pvp chest
i dont even get 440 items from pvp chest 
there should be a law of 1 trophy every 3 weeks
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/izqesSPwHveSQQ5dRAcjsk
i guess i suck with my sim
in another universe i get wepons 
you can get benthic belt
for easy upgrade
im sure the cyclotronic trinket beats dice at 430
not really
you wanna delay cyclotronic either way
and its only a 20 second cd between trinkets
so nothing changes

mastery haste
did I do it?
seems like it
what about last time
i did it aswell with my chest 
people just need that /flex in discord
@lost tree have you tried crit gems and enchants
yep sims worse for the last sims i did. Will try again i guess
I have like 1850 crit now and its still up there in stat weight
trying a sim for you right now @lost tree
thanks ๐
1888 tells me: go haste @faint harness
Raidbots told me as soon as i got T3 CLF i should go haste
445 coral with socket

paired with 440 font with socket
wont change trinkets for a while
.
noobs get loot
Just double checking, after first vendetta, use CLF on CD even without lining it with vendetta?
Like, I don't hold anything?
Shoulf be in pins
Yeah saw it, just wanted to double check and all.
@gusty kestrel i got trophy 2 weeks in a row 
yes
yep
which rating do ineed for 445?
is trophy RNG?
ya but that takes forever
what will the trophy do if you're rival rated
just like the ones from last few seasons did

i mean you can loot @faint harness or you can LOOT https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/npxfmFjH4RQRj3c9ER6qC4
I cant sim atm, but i beat your sim by a few 100 dps 
you are simming 48k @scarlet sequoia ? whats that? world first?
I sim 47.5k
and doing a green log at blackwater in 3 kills ๐ nice dude
Wowwwwwwww lmao
just dont breath
there are people at 65 neck oof
actually how lucky has to one get for double pvp azerites
its guaranteed by conquest caps
you didnt even die @rich whale
i thought i was lucky with first 445 Gorak 
you can hold the Conquest cap and upgrade
yea, more rng
๐คท
Here we go

you really think im gonna get a green log without dying
Doesn't seem like you died 
Look at dmg graph
you did obviously 
you did ๐
its like 1.5 minute without dmg being done
at the end of the fight
then rezd it seems
Is it worth upgrading puffer fish wrists with a socket?
it doesnt show sometimes
i would have to sit there and auto attack to get a green log

stop being dumb as fuck pls
@scarlet sequoia Its time to chill
fine
but then why it doesnt show? 

on the green log i died last platform to aoe from boss because i was 10% hp and some1 interrupted boss before we killed puffer
there u go
we're doing a pepege strat on that fight so i'll have to be GCD perfect to get orange log
or just sim with 49k ๐
im not far off 
imagine being in a guild where you can do logs 
i mean you can log the first bosses by playing solo
3rd time in a row i roll Pistoleer's shoulders
GG
Just coin the good gear, idk what you on about
just do it 
i sim 42k i think i need a Head very soon Engineers googles doenst look that good 
I'll give helm roll a shot when I get home
i guess i will just play pvp get trophy for 445 Head

dont worry. you could just see that even 49k doesnt help you on boss 3
@lost tree
not really
just amused
i just explained to you what happened rofl
because he flexed with his sim @signal summit
are you this deluded or
i would also show it tbh
you asked for it?
okay guys keep calm 
its no reason to flame
you asked if i simmed what i do and i linked
dafuq
i didnt ask for your 49k sim with a /flex

i didnt ask for your sim at all ๐
Im still here btw.
holy shit
sim, who cares, all bout luck
Someone else did

sure ive been lucky, but i also play every aspect of the game at the highest level to get the best gear so idk what this guys issue is
@scarlet sequoia what its worth im impressed, 49k is huge

sadly havnt got any throphies yet
Leave the guy alone lmao, attacking him for no reason haha. Dead impressed with that 49k sim tho, gj
ok from my point of view go to #mmochampionnews for the drama

Social interactions 101 - If you dont like posts, you can a) ignore the post, b) ignore the poster, c) report them if they break rules or d) tilt
If you opt for option d, be ready to get told to chill, or worse ๐คท
Or worse 
Never seen someone gettin tilted into oblivion over a sim
dude must've been really unlucky
๐ฟ is there drama
?
nope, shows over
cmon keep it going ๐ฆ
It's the sin channel, that's all there is here.
Sims doesnt matter much, its just fun to compare
imma dab on you all with my 42,5k sims
the first stepping stone is getting benthic pieces though
simulations for races were done with or without essences? (on herodamage)
people with more gear than me are luckers who suck
and people with worse gear than me
are nooblets
who also suck
i am the best.
fuck it
time to just get 3x SS and play exsang
Kappa
just wondering because haste seems to sky rocket with azerite boy, troll might actually be super strong
Just toss in the races in your topgear sim and it should be ez to find out
I am not seeing the haste sky rocket
same i still have red gems
On par with crit for me
my sims still tell me too use crit/mastery gems instead of haste ๐คท
i'm one of those people that forgets mastery exists solely because i don't have enough iterations to do all 4 stats
so i could be simming like 57k with mastery gems
and i'd never know
rank 3 for me?
nah the people saying that haste is on par with crit
why could lucid dream major sim 2k ahead of the raid one? both r3
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rGtu4yjc6e1b8UUajCymoY @winter moss /flex
I use clf/lucid
41k with undilated waters, cute
Why would crit be better with bote
i could use my 420 chest wich is like 80dps less ๐คท
of course crit/mast sims higher when you have a different essence
hwat
Anyway, i use clf/lucid and got 1850 crit and its still best
Haste is like on par tho, but its not enough to change gems and as soon as i do that it wants me to get crit
whats cooldown on troll racial? 2 or 3m?
3
so ties in with azerite boy then
yaa but i mean like
it's such a short buff
it's probably nice but like
not significant enough to care about
(like all racials tbh)
Unless you're nightborne you're fine
10% haste for 12 sec aint something to joke about
im undead rn, going troll gives me 300 dps according to hero damage, should be more with azerite bro
and the fact haste is now my best simming stat with it
we talk about 300dps
300
thats something you see in the sims
and never in reality
lol
Replace undead with troll in stat weight sim
kek
I assure you
Just uuuh.. Sim it, Infexious? Simming the races aint hard.
that on on use to burst with other cds would be more benificial than undead racial
Probably really good for heroic logs
it's like 100something dps for me playing clf already from nelf to troll
and i'd gain more by just
being human
but i mean
toes
and fat
so
Imagine being alliance

fรณr the boy king
Gachigasm
enjoy being stunned for the full jes howlis stun duration 
what is wrong with this sim? 
never lucky
just spam underrot keys or smth
Also, how you using subterfuge? My impression was that was no bueno without SS.
Point still stands
cba doing m+
as a sin rogue in m+ (go ahead and laugh, im not outlaw) how do you deal with using font of power? from what i can tell it breaks stealth, and i cant exactly expect the tank to just wait 4 seconds before he pulls trash
it doesn't break if you use subterfuge which you should be using
i am, and it broke my stealth
looks like
i tried it again. my stealth breaks after 1 second of channeling
everytime
yeah it breaks subterfuge now
well thats bull
your only choice is to use it like before stealthing but it's unreliable enough that i'd just
what a let down
razor coral doesnt seem that great in m+ either, from what i could tell using it
Coral is pretty nice in m+, you get stacks when mobs die anyways
pog 440 dagger of chest, sivara can suck my D
is there an azshara trinket command? for know when to use it?
5 second before burst?
kinda sucks that both the best trinkets arent really great for m+, i might just have to suck up the font of power in m+
can anybody shed clarity on what puts you specifically in combat? it seems really inconsistent. if the tank chain pulls and i dont folllow them, i still get in combat. if they pull after the pack is dead when i havent stealthed yet, sometimes i seem to be able to stealth and sometimes i cant. is there a distance where i wont get in combat so i can safely use the font and stealth after?
and i tried out coral in m+. i know it uses stacks when mob dies, but it really doesnt seem to be all that potent nonetheless
on ST yeah, but thats about it. the crit is too small to really make anything significant happen on trash
Coral is really nice, you just apply it on cooldown
constant crit
which goes pretty well with EB
yeah, thats what i was doing. it just didnt seem to help me too much, or maybe the ilvl just wasnt high enough. i tried 415 coral with a 435 inkpod, and a 430 plumage just seemed to do alot better
plumage is always going to be immediately more noticable cause you have to like
use it at a time you want more damage and then you do more damage
you're not going to notice a small amount of proc damage/crit but it adds up over the course of a dungeon
and especially on tyrannical bosses coral probably just does more straight 2min cd dmg than plumage anyway at high enough keys
most tyrannical bosses you'll get 2x uses of vendetta either way
so its just much better
Not a single sin rogue in Time Trials ๐ข
not a single.. lots of th ings, really
426 ilvl simming 30k dps, feelsbadman
Well this is assass channel
thank you for the astute observation
Not all heroes wear capes
@royal lantern https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/czZF95jTr8UNqWwFdtbQAT /flex

xd
0 Loyal allies
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eYjQHezbQYd1r6RrLLsaD what should i upgrade first waist or boots?
waist @long hill
thx!
another thing, how do you test the dps on the dummy with details? he always reset my dps with vanish
swalker id try to replace the mainhand as it has no socket aswell
nothing really looks wrong with this sim
430 gorak tul is 600 dps, 445 is ~1k, do i gamble some 430's instead? 
go for gold
I gambled
445 or bust
- font also has no socket
if you have any use for the other pieces for other stuff like m+ probably
didint work
WHy did they make Goruk Tul's so good
it says this message but cant find that option
BBI 
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/stQb2G2YpJMiDY6ndjexZm how the fk do I only sim 32k dps 
rank 1 essence 
useless trait on chest
seems kinda obvious to me
If I sim myself without chaos brand, I sim about 1k less. What part of my damage is magic damage?
no raid trinkets

all poisons count as magic dmg
Oh. I thought that was nature damage
Bad traits, bad trinkets, Bad essences, Benthic missing upgrades and sockets
Plenty of reasons
Weird. Thanks
EB/SS on chest with MA and Rank 1 bote, is it some scuffed M+ gear in a ST sim?
So I landed a Coral, for is it only really useful for longer fights?

bote starts to shine at rank 3
Your R2 lucid is probably better
And youve upgraded non socketed benthic 
bote 2 isnt great
not bad
but there are plenty essences that are better at lower ranks
And you're using x2 force multiplier enchants on weapons?
WTF

LMAO
like are you even trying
Oke I come back in like 2 days Pepega

inside the brain of an average rogue player
rogue sin
So how long on average does a fight have to be to make Coral better than a big on use like Lurkers?
3 seconds
like idk what ilvl your lurkers is neither your coral
sockets
rest of gear
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for raid environments probably 2min20 or whatever
as the crit conversion is also triggered when the mob dies
Was just wondering whether for something like M commander with a lust on pull a big on use would be better
for a bigger lust window
It lives long enough to make use of coral
should be pretty easy to sim out, just set 3min or whatever your kill timer is
kill timers on sivara vary from like 3 minutes to 6 minutes depending on how moronic your guild are

we're pretty moronic
my best parse on that boss was a 4:30 kill 
bad healers, questionmark
who knows. . . . . .

it's been this way on every reclear for us idk
if you have a lot of greedy players that just want to reset their stacks
it can be hectic
killing something at 4:30 is a nightmare tho
5:30
stop dying 
ur rogues
live up to the rep
5:32, rip logs
Hi, having some trouble with my sim. I believe going up to 23% haste from 19% BUT loosing 1% crit(down to 25%) and 3 Mastery(38%) isnโt worth it. I feel weaker but I sim 170 more. What would you say?
are you some kind of savant that can feel numbers touching you through your mouse
I would trust the sims before your own "feeling"
Alright!
What would you go for?
What sims the highest
30%+ ?
the sim value and cry about it
which is 37% for me atm
Havenโt been lucky getting crit gear :/
shut up buki ๐ก
Like you cant equal every single player in this game tho, trinkets, essences, traits they all change ur stat weights so just listen to whatever the friendly computer tells you
Buki > Plode
yes : (
My parses by log in raid is fantastic, but my parse by ilevel is not so good... I am curious if anyone has some good rogue twitch streamers to watch as I try to improve and figure out exactly what it is I'm doing wrong. Thanks.
Ilvl logs mean nothing anyway
The guild thinks they're more important as it shows how we well you do compared to other rogues your own ilevel
ilvl logs is pointless, not sure why its still in the logs
Well they're not
you'd probably be better off learning from logs themselves than streams but #rogue-streamers i guess
if you go in there with a raid trying... and do well overall, but have a low ilevel parse, it means those with your similar ilevel are performing better
item level parses are almost as irrelevant as progress parses
If your guild is asking you to focus on an ilvl parse then they;re focusing on the wrong aspects
If your guild tells you to improve ur ilvl logs you should either tell them to fuck off or change guild asap
Can optimise way more but theres 4k dps for free
just unequip your gear
500*
literally simmed this
Any updated guides on assa? Feel like I could pull of way more dips if I stop spamming envenom and starting to take advantage of Elaborate
@solid nova thank u sir
:(
just upgraded my iris to rank 3 aswell
Yeah thats a decent upgrade too
@strange python check top logs, go to resources, choose energy and see how they pool/spend energy, easy "guides".
so if my guild says ilevel parses are more important as they show how well you are doing compared to same ilevel rogues, ergo, if your ilevel parse isn't great you have room to improve... how are they wrong? Cos saying someone can go in with no gear doesn't really seem like a counter argument
i cant tell them that
cus ilvl isnt everything
@cobalt pelican ?

Item level is probably the least relevant its ever been because of the value of sockets and benthic
closing in on 50k
They're not saying ilevel is everything, obviously mechanics and getting the boss down is more important, but again, saying ilevel isnt everything is kind of a copout
nah
@pale cave so what answer are you looking for her
e
i doubt they would tell you to improve if it was only ilvl logs that were shit
"oh this guy has orange logs but green in ilvl, tell him to git gud"
@faint harness ty! Also as you said bf4 trust logs. But 50 dps upgrade on a 440 canonballer with socket. Like rly...? VS 420pocket
Just post your logs and if theyre fine its your guild not understanding how the metric works
Yeah, that's the thing, I agree...
If they're not its more than just ilvl issues
would you rather compare yourself to the overall playerbase of your spec or a tiny pool of players at the exact same ilvl as you whos simdps can vary from 30k to 50k
Simple 
just equip 440+ gear and you'll be 100 on all of them
like, if you go up or down 1 ilvl the ilvl parse metric changes drastically when the reality of your performance doesn't
this applies less to sin just due to the volume of parses
but it's like
????????
Big true
Thank you!
Yes! Nameless that was perfect,
430 and 435 player can parse the same globally but ilvl parses can be massively apart due to optimisation
Benthic/sockets/trinkets all that usual stuff all effect it
especially with benthic casino
and i switch up my gear often to test things
Area 51 level secret. Keep your 445 azerite, but wear 410 in the other slots. Slamdunk 100 ilevel parses.
I'm 437 simming at 42
Item level parses are genuinely not important, more so than ever
Right and im 431 simming 44k
Item level parses are not important
Anyway we've hit #wow-general and back again at this stage
scrapping a 445 gives me 10k residue?
Ye
@solid nova https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uN3H8RE911DMyhgnbrAtg4 Thanks for ur help O_O
quick one i have stupid amounts of trinkets is coral and queens trinket best for raiding ?
Simulation data for everyone. Overview of DPS relevant simulation data for World of Warcraft.
:)
@umbral fiber The worldvein is a trap, especially at 5 stacks tbh but other than that looks much better 
So probs Iris 3 minor
And stop upgrading the non socketed benthic 
Your benthic belt will overtake the 430 on the next upgrade or so probs
They were close to begin with
Still have 400 pearls to spent
sang monstrosity, eh
i use blood mallet but paired together they seem to give me same amount of damage as pocket sized does lol, probs me using it wrong
Just sim your trinkets in top gear
hmst
Guys, which pre pot do I use for single target?
Unbridled Fury
so how do you guys do it. wait for 200k titan residuum or gamble?
not a fan of waiting to buy specific. by the time you buy one progress is over
one could argue that by the time you get the right one through gambling progress is over too?
hmm
if you equip a 445 you can trade pieces
do you gamble with the 445s?
yes
yea i was going to wait for a specific piece but it's just too long and boring i'd rather just gamble it and let the chips fall where they may, so I can enjoy the game now not in 2 months
yeah i gambled two 445s and it turned out pretty good
if im rerolling for benthic gear with a socket, which one do i go for first? crit boots?
3 slightly better pieces > 1 way better piece most of the time unless you really low roll
belt is the easiest to get a socket on
ive got a 430 whirling dervish with socket
and a 415 [Beloved Monarch's Waistwrap] with socket
cant compete with benthic belt i think
with the storm of eternal rise effect
im finishing up my bracer to 425, the belt U believe simmed a tiny bit better
but pretty negligible
switched up my potion opener and use of coral trinket and went from 42k opener to 59
are you playing with MA?
yea
is there a reason why raidbots says my pocket trinket does 150k per cast? ive never seen it do less than 200k per cast
maybe 150 base without boosts from other things, potions, flasks, procs, etc
I just dinged 120 as assassin and am reading guides, getting prepared to start doing some m+. Any individual tips that anyone would like to share ๐ ?
dont give up, get rupture up from stealth, rogue is a precision dance and using your abilities at the perfect time...
i love interrupting mobs trying to casst, controling the flow of the fight
i tell mobs theyre adorable for thinking they were going to cast something
not usually, i get 4-5 on the first or second garotte, shouldnt need to triple ever
oh of course, sorry, garotte in stealth, I was jumping ahead
I always keep the resource of rotations altered by various elements like toxic blade, or SS
http://ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/#addon
training dummies are very helpful
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aXinF6ekmavZ3oAzXasBqc should i swap my ring enchants for mastery ? im confused
You always use 3 garrotes from stealth when specced supter with ss traits in m+
yh
How do you use Vendetta during a 2-phase strat on Ashvane? It seems like people delay their cds for first shield-break (1min) and the fight lasts 5 min
Is there any BiS strat around already?
If your raid team is decent they'll plan for when you use your cooldowns
You either use it on pull or wait miserably until shield is broken
anyone using Font together with Coral ?
Okay guys. I got the ashavnes coral trinket last night and was testing it out but I'm a bit confused on what's the best way to use it? Should I be using it everytime it's up or just let it keep stacking till next vendetta
@solid novaty
And i thought my 42k sim is ok
What the fuck is that
๐คข
do you actually have 65 traits
or just trying it out
imagine having a dagger over 430
Imagine the islands, pain and suffering
If I'm way behind on benthic pieces to use for raiding, are there specific ones I should try and get first that are better than the others?
problem is that if you use either font or coral the otherone goes on a 20 sec cd that means i get 10 sec of font and coral extract on my next vendetta, if i hold to use vendetta after 10 sec of font
@dawn coyote Belt is easiest to get, Boots have the biggest positive effect
i spent 400pearls on belt still not a single one with socket ๐
alright thanks
hey, what azerite traits should i aim for mythic plus?
haaaave you met buckethead?
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@past marten 2 phase you should delay vendetta for when the shield breaks. should be happening around 58s to 1:05 in. your vendetta will come back up around halfway through the 2nd shield phase but hold it for hero on the 2nd damage phase. havent seen anyone squeeze three vendettas in successfully but it might be possible
That is what I am thinking about: Whether there is a way to squeeze in more than 2 Vendettas
with more gear yeah, but for now its all about getting as much damage in during those dmg phases so i dont think so
every guild runs their cds differently
its not great if you get 3 waves in first shield either
You shouldnโt get 3
you get 3 if you run the nuke strat
every single player holds cds for first vuln
and then try blast the boss below 50% in 1 vuln
and then kill 2nd
we're running that and still only getting 2 waves
i saw limit do it and get 3 waves, we havent tried yet
doing it this reclear i think
yeah spose it depends on how impactful cds are to the specs in your raid
probably not that difficult if u have capable dps
I smell a discrimination of 2min specs for this strat
have to hit maybe 60% in 1st window
then hero and ignore coral on second window + inkpods
we havent killed it yet, but we're down a tank at the moment so we figured may aswell just practice it, with gear it'll become the prevailing strat
yeah 60% is ok, 55 is optimal
if you hold lust for 2nd vuln it should be doable
yes
60% is easily doable, considering that many guilds get to like 65-68% while popping cds on pull
i mean you should get i below 50
with all cds
majority of ppl pop cds on pull for us, only DH, boomkin and 1x fire mage hold cds
what line would you need to use to tell the APL to hold Vendetta until 1min during a 5min fight?
why do you want to see it
after getting Raiment 445. Rage salvage bought 430 

@faint harness to minmax the dps
the fight is basically on a set timer
I don't necessarily expect anything, but maybe there's a surprising result
well
you want to minmax the dmg windows mostly yes
traits like NP are going to be stronger since you'll have 2 x 70second windows
how much boost on sim dps you get when you hit 65 on neck? Just wondering ๐
It's surprisingly massive
hey guys what would be my best bet to spend titan residuum on ( I have 50k and all 420ilvl azerites )?
It's not really surprising tbh, another essence is huge
you can sim it yourself if you care
theres essence information at the top of the simc string
just add an essence there
Yo, on how many stacks do you use Ashvane trinket?
with Vendetta, no matter the stacks
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When it comes to Ashvane 2-Phase min-maxing, what do you think guys of BotE major:
- BotE on pull
- delay Vendetta to 1:30ish, BotE with Vendetta
- BotE with Vendetta right at the 31-32% mark
- use up all Coral stacks at the 31-32% mark
any advice on coral and font ?
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why do you want blood on 2 phase tactic when you can pull of more dmg with life force on those phases where it matters? blood just for 1 usage more on shield what shouldnt be a problem ?
what can be a problem is, 2 shield without cds you will probably get wave 4
BotE would help pushing 1st shield to avoid the 3rd wave and (if you time it perfectly) make Ink crit 100% + boost its damage
when you play 2 phase, and struggle with 1 shield then its probably not the tactic you should play
you can kite the boss enough to avoid 3 wave
It's more about making it a safe play without kiting etc.
Kiting is a minor dps loss in my books
@past marten btw forgot to say thx
then play w/e you think is the best, but shield 1 wont be a problem.
Is there a comprehensive guide online on how to do custom APL? Like delaying Lust and using Cooldowns on set timers?
and if it is, your raid can play with cycloblast, you can use it for 1 shield and burst phase
Cycloblast has a 2min cooldown, doesn't it? So you cannot use it on both
It's not much worse than Frost
If you don't have all the other pieces, you should continue with another slot
I have the others
I would probably upgrade this one, as the difference is minor
alright, thanks
puffer fish bracers on queens court, oof
or on zaqul for that matter
or on ashvane
the other parts are not with a socket though, shall I still fish for them
If the other parts are w/o socket, continue fishing
okay
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how much does wound poison reduce?
Wish pearls were easy to farm on alts
healing i mean
@dapper plover enough to make it worth taking in pvp if you dont have any other healing reduction
25 pearls from emissary today, best day for alts
I dont know the exact number because master poisoner also affects it
Yup, all used for bracers
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25 pearls from emissary?
from daily WQs?
there is some professional simmer ? i am in total confusion ๐
What do you mean? @sick scarab
Whats the issue?
dropping stuff from hc raid.. simming less than 420 etc
and i dunno if i sim correct
Link the sim and we'll see
Yeah that heroic chest is bad dude
Your current traits are better
Sims correct ๐
what am I missing for these 25 pearls from emissary?
i have sinkpod 420.. sim les than azerok 450..








