assassination

[naive pier]

ok

[arctic walrus]

or step

[cobalt pelican]

realistically if the phase is long enough that you get your 2mins back up and you solely want dps

you should probably be playing subterfuge

[arctic walrus]

the targetyou open on is your secondary target

[naive pier]

yeah @arctic walrus im with u

[polar forge]

It is 2 mins from the naga to boss

But I didn’t want to delay cd use just to dot 2nd target

[naive pier]

so garrot + mut + rapture, then run to the other target, mut + rep + mut + gar + then blow with vendetta toxic + BoEt vanish and boom

[arctic walrus]

Yeah

[lost sentinel]

what major essence are ppl using for 10+? iris?

this week I mean

[arctic walrus]

Depending on range, wait for cds to fall off before you go and reapply bleeds

Iris

[lost sentinel]

cool

[naive pier]

Yeah but one thing comes to mind, is im not benifiting the MA when i open with garrot + mut + rup

[arctic walrus]

Wat

By the time you use them ma falls off

[naive pier]

the original opener usally is ( mut+ rup+ mut ) to get those crits on mut

[arctic walrus]

I wouldn't use "usually" in that sentence lol

gar mut rup should be your go to

[naive pier]

oh u should try the other opener its great and smooth

Mutilate > Rupture > Mutilate > Garrote -> Vendetta + On Uses > Toxic Blade > Blood of The Enemy > Vanish > Env > Mut > Env

i open with 200k

sometimes

[haughty flame]

is blood our BiS trait then

[solid nova]

200k lol

[rigid mango]

200k

[crisp steppe]

[stable oxide]

I open 500k ez

[polar forge]

Target dummy lul

[stable oxide]

with auto attack

[rigid mango]

200k in what fucking universe

[hollow gyro]

How are y’all using cyclotronic? After full opener ~25sec in?

[cobalt pelican]

i open with 0 dps because i miscast font and then my pot broke stealth

and i was weeping in the corner

[crisp steppe]

next patch m8 @rigid mango

[cobalt pelican]

then i make a sick comback

[crisp steppe]

big plays

[wise whale]

how can i get 100k+ pull burst?

[cobalt pelican]

get blood and envenom big

[rigid mango]

You can't

[arctic walrus]

that's bote going to work, not mut rup mut

[rigid mango]

But this dude is smacking 200k so

@naive pier can u link ur armory

I would love to see ur set up

need to copy before raid tonight

[arctic walrus]

@haughty flame Blood is the best IF you don't have rank 3 life-force or running worldvein

[stable oxide]

I'm abit confused on what essences I should generally use on raids

[arctic walrus]

For mostpeople, that is the case for them atm

[stable oxide]

I assume it differs per boss

[rigid mango]

Atm, blood M lucid m

[haughty flame]

but isnt it fucking hard to get like 50k honour

[cobalt pelican]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2hZC8WbqLQtwVBcD#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=27

thicy 100k

[arctic walrus]

Not hard just agrind

[stable oxide]

Blood main :O?

[scarlet sequoia]

blood main lucid minor if youre not a teamplayer

love to see it

[arctic walrus]

I'm 18k away but I feel like I'll be running veins anyway

[cobalt pelican]

lucid major worldvein minor 3 next week is like

barely ahead of blood/lucid

but i guess it helps tema out

and then i just hope the raid never has to move

[wise whale]

so MA and blood will get you big burst?

[royal lantern]

yes

[wise whale]

ok I will try it on the puppet now

[royal lantern]

on some pulls your dps can spike at ~100k for a couple of seconds

[tepid ridge]

is the T24 trinket sim on herodamage reliable?

[cobalt pelican]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9NbaZCJqL1nrjKBH#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=14

this was on normal

after i ended up playing

2ttk on my gear somehow

[scarlet sequoia]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bMm28zjNkX3cZBny#fight=33&type=damage-done&source=17

got a 125k here mates

[wise whale]

150k is sick

[cobalt pelican]

good opener dps is not really conductive to good overall dps but its fun so

[wise whale]

yes of cause

[cobalt pelican]

when you crit every mut and hit back to back 100k envenoms

mmmyea

[scarlet sequoia]

well if you can do 150k for a bit every 2 min its gonna help

[wise whale]

so whats the big burst opener?

[cobalt pelican]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9NbaZCJqL1nrjKBH#fight=8&type=casts&source=14&view=timeline

this basically

[gloomy jolt]

Hey y’all working on swapping from outlaw to sin. Is there a command for azerite traits? I didn’t see anything in the pinned messages

[cobalt pelican]

except ideally you don't need to mut twice after tb

[fresh ginkgo]

Everyone rolling bote3 but I'm here like a pleb running lucid

[cobalt pelican]

there probably is but who knows what it is

tldr m+ eb/ss/ttk raid np/dd

[patent topaz]

my question is

[scarlet sequoia]

rank 4 or casual tbh 😭

[patent topaz]

why did it have to be a pvp island for the quest

[cobalt pelican]

to get people to engage in cool content

[royal lantern]

get your guildmates

take your m+ gear

ignore the enemy team, rush npc's down

how2pvpisland

[crisp steppe]

use items from 5 rotations ago

with 300% crit dmg

🤔

yeah I play fair

[wet ruin]

@scarlet sequoia do you just do battlegrounds or is there a faster way?

[scarlet sequoia]

i sat afk for 25 hours in epic bgs for rank 3

now i just get it from rbg

[crisp steppe]

big

[cobalt pelican]

the rank 4 for blood looks pretty whack tbh

i'd get it if it was cooler

[wise whale]

fuck i got 148k for a sec

[crisp steppe]

@scarlet sequoia whats some good series to watch

[cobalt pelican]

but it's just like

[wet ruin]

but the queue timer are too long

[cobalt pelican]

a blue ring

[wise whale]

im only ilvl 406

[scarlet sequoia]

im alliance so only won 10% of them so took a bit longer

[wise whale]

thx

[crisp steppe]

@wet ruin you can queue as alliance

[wet ruin]

is it better

[scarlet sequoia]

dont q epic bgs as alliance tho

random bgs if anything

[patent leaf]

what potion are you guys using?

[crisp steppe]

@wet ruin low queue times

[wise whale]

focused resolve potion

[crisp steppe]

@wet ruin I think theres an npc in dalaran sewers

[scarlet sequoia]

hes also in mugambala

[wet ruin]

Yes

[stuck knoll]

@gloomy jolt this is from last season and so is a little out dated

!azerite

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Azerite overview: https://bit.ly/2U86I7o

[cobalt pelican]

unbridled fury

[gloomy jolt]

@stuck knoll thanks ❤

[cobalt pelican]

i actually managed to sell most of my spare agility pots

[fresh ginkgo]

Do we que epic or normal

For the grind?

[solid nova]

Normal

[cobalt pelican]

if you want to play normal

if you're more inclined to recline

epic

[tribal marlin]

Epic because shooting at people with a siege warmachine is so fun

[fresh ginkgo]

Kicking myself in the ass not grinding rank 3 during battleground week

Need 30k more

[arctic walrus]

I should've done it when more of my guild was

now I have to solo q

we'd win all our 5 stacks now I have nothing

[tribal marlin]

We will probably all remove bote once we get rank3 of Condensate

and in m+ even if bote is fine enough, it looks like focusing iris is better

[fresh ginkgo]

Shit I'm weeks off that raid essence

[cobalt pelican]

iris will be so much comfier when i can

360 beam on the go

[arctic walrus]

is it 2 weeks of 15?

[cobalt pelican]

think so yeah

[tribal marlin]

I still compete pretty well with my friends rogues using bote right now

because I was too lazy to go to Silithus to activate Iris xD

[cobalt pelican]

heres to hoping for a life force nerf before everyone hits rank 3

and there's 20 guardians of azeroth

pounding the boss

[twin kite]

Benthic gear are worth to farm?

[arctic walrus]

bote gets you the 99th parse, lucid gets you 98th

[tribal marlin]

have you ever seen 10 people in RBG using Cyclo trinket on the same targer xD ?

[cobalt pelican]

even just 2 getting to 1800 in 2v2s yesterday was silly

killing people through barkskin from 100% life

[arctic walrus]

Did 2s last night so great to melt down a guy with 2 cyclos

[fresh ginkgo]

[cobalt pelican]

this is pvp discussion related to the spec please go away thankyou

(footnote i was playing assasination rogue when this event occured)

[arctic walrus]

^ I concur with this statement, as a fellow assassination rogue

[unkempt raven]

Is using combination of Coral + Font any good ? Did anybody try that?

[arctic walrus]

Talking about moving a discussion over to another channel is technically off topic is it not

[solid nova]

!ban @supple hearth you can continue your constant anti mod brigade somewhere else. Mods won't be wasting anymore time on you.

[cobalt pelican]

sleep tight

and yes there's no reason it shouldn't be good crickett

it works the exact same as lurker/cyclo

just you don't get coral on your first vendetta, basically

[arctic walrus]

Idk about exact, but still very good

[cobalt pelican]

i guess each cyclo is delayed by 20s but like

bleh

[arctic walrus]

Well actually

There's no big rush on getting coral up during your vanish window yeah?

[charred moat]

you guys think sins gonna get nerfed? looks like they're the top on st

[arctic walrus]

You can use it 10s into your vend

But I guess the problem persists throughout the pull nvm

[cobalt pelican]

i thought how it worked was like popcoral(20s cd) -> vendetta -> vendetta ends -> reapply coral (20s cd) -> cyclo 20s later

besides on the opener obviously

where you just coral once then cyclo after vend

[arctic walrus]

ooops yikes

[spare flame]

Can anyone give me some insight into the opener? I struggle to see why the garrote etc opener is better then Mut->rupture->Mut with double dose and new gear as strong as it is

(Ma)

As per guide

[cobalt pelican]

with blood the current opener is mut rupt mut

if you wish to

[lone junco]

big critters

[cobalt pelican]

see mystlers 2nd to last post in #tc-updates

[arctic walrus]

cyclo/coral or you mean coral/font

[cobalt pelican]

without blood having garrote down for those globals is not worth it

[lone junco]

I wanted a mut opener in legion with shoulder. it just never took off.

[charred moat]

im glad we're using ma rather than subterfuge now

its fun taking threat off the tank

[worn crag]

So you play MA in ST?

[charred moat]

i play it in everything, i do fine on trash and just beat everyone on bosses

the iris covers not having subterfuge

[calm wedge]

Hello guys, isn't nothing personnal still a must have ?

Some of my sims give me higher dps without NP

[cobalt pelican]

it's not a must have, it's usually worth to have at least one but crit value is stupid high for some people right now

so bbi is above np for example

[charred moat]

idk if blizz is going to like sin being 3rd overal for the raid and m+

and 1st on boss damage

[strange python]

New here, question: how much mastery/crit should I stack to get the best out of my bleeds and poison? I tried siming and it changes everyday

[spare flame]

Mastery sims so high for me its crazy

I dont like it one bity

[cobalt pelican]

it changes every day because they're very close

nobody is 300iq expand brain enough to give you an exact figure

[warm cave]

Probably after mythic week and any tuning we might see we will know better for sure

[charred moat]

you need exactly 1349.2 mastery

[calm wedge]

xd

[cobalt pelican]

i'd imagine once everyone settles on the same essences at the same rank things will fall into line somewhat

right now there's hundreds of people coming through her

some playing lucid 2 flame 2

[strange python]

Gotcha

[cobalt pelican]

some playing blood 3 vein 2

some playing conflict of strife no 2nd essence etc

and stat weights in general for st are so close now that vers actually effects some relevant things

[charred moat]

really hoping i dont get 440 boots from my cache since i have the benthic ones

[cobalt pelican]

that's just the way it be

[fresh ginkgo]

I'll take 440 boota

Not like imma use benthic in m+

[cobalt pelican]

i'm going to go 8 weeks of benthic slots and ring downgrades

then after the tier is cleared

[manic pike]

Pretty sure the crit boots with socket at 425 stil better than 440

[cobalt pelican]

get some fat warforged daggers with socket

just in time for 8 months of reclear hell

[charred moat]

I have a 395 and 405 ring with a socket and i got a 435 ring today with no socket and its 12 dps better

Such a shame

[cobalt pelican]

i dropped jc for engi again and like

i really need to do m+ next week for a rin gactually

[manic pike]

Welcome to World of Farmcraft. Best way to gear is ally alt for extra pearls funneling Vendor gear to Horde main.

[cobalt pelican]

cause i'm still using the unsocketed rasta ring

[arctic walrus]

445 dagger even without a socket is +1k for me

[cobalt pelican]

yea weapon damage is insane

in uldir i got big daggers real early

it was fun

[fresh ginkgo]

Secretly hoping they nerf so I dont need to farm the pearls

[cobalt pelican]

at least there's a dagger boss early in the tier this time too

[fresh ginkgo]

[arctic walrus]

Went through all bod and not a single 415 with a socket

[cobalt pelican]

pretty much guaranteed you'll get a nice one within a few weeks maybe

[arctic walrus]

Granted spent 2 months inCoS only to not kill Uunat but oh well LUL

[cobalt pelican]

yea

i think that's the same for a lot of guilds

even on cabal

[scarlet sequoia]

cabal is harder than uunat tbh

[arctic walrus]

Yea I just moved on then they got the kill 2 weeks later with essences

[charred moat]

Do we know if the swim speed increase blue card stacks with the speed for Blackwater

[proven lance]

That feel when you only have 1 dagger so you cant roll assassination :( #brandnewrogueproblems

[gloomy jolt]

You get the free 410 dagger for capping conquest?

[proven lance]

Hmm

That might work

I've had terrible luck trying to get dagger drops

[solemn meadow]

yo

does anyone know if the azshara trinket breaks stealth?

the channeling

[arctic walrus]

nope

[solemn meadow]

it does not? nice

[bronze wagon]

Hello i'm new here, I'm also new to the MA opener. I'm wondering if you follow your quick sim ability log for best results?

[solemn meadow]

the MA opener should be the most simple one

garrote muti rupture vendetta (blood) toxic muti till 4 vanish envenom

[past marten]

I understood that you blood after toxic blade

to potentially get another envenom in the crit dmg buff

[solemn meadow]

I was told the exact opposite

to blood before so your toxic can crit

[gloomy jolt]

Is blood still insane if only rank 2? Haven’t grounded out rank 3 yet

[bronze wagon]

Simming is telling me i should, mut mut rupture garrote vendetta TB dps trinket BoTe vanish envenom mut envenom

[solemn meadow]

for more cp

[cobalt pelican]

depending on what you're playing the sim is a little

wonky right now

for openers

[royal lantern]

@gloomy jolt blood gains much of its value only at rank3, at 2 its.......not that great

[gloomy jolt]

Ok thanks brotha! I’ll work on grinding out rank 3 next weekend

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[cobalt pelican]

that's what the opener looked like before the bugs happened/the mut rupt mut was added as an opener

[strange python]

on queens court where you can't use a spell more than once did you guys just fill with FoK when needed?

[cobalt pelican]

so this is basically what you want to do

avoid fok at all costs

[strange python]

how come

[cobalt pelican]

detection or mut and eat the silence it's not long

[strange python]

ah

[cobalt pelican]

fok does no damage and costs energy

you can legit just mut and not care

[strange python]

yeah true

is it a short silence?

[cobalt pelican]

or if you want to care just detection

2 seconds? i want to say

the thing ingame says 4 but like

i started with detection messed up once and i was like

this is such a nonfactor

[strange python]

detection Pog

[bronze wagon]

this is what im getting for opener, its weird but feels good

[strange python]

truuuue

ty

so you just ate the silence

fair play

i respect it

[cobalt pelican]

you can decide what's best based on energy etc if you're low energy it's not like being silenced for a couple secs does anything anyways

i'd recommend just following the opener in the ss i posted big

either that or using the marginally better one mysterly updated it to before it broke

which is this (the one you linked)

but put your lurker and blood fury

with your vendetta

[bronze wagon]

gotcha okay, appreciate that

so mut mut rupt garrote is fine

[cobalt pelican]

yeah it's fine

it depends how many cp you get as to what it will be

if you crit both hits on the first mut you mut rupt mut

if you don't then you mut mut etc obviously

[bronze wagon]

Right, sometimes 4CP from 1 mut or 3

sometimes its 1 mut

[dense axle]

So is bote going to be bis major or minor after we get rank 3 guardian?

[past marten]

we probably go guardian/dream

[solemn meadow]

^

BotE is good till r3 guardian

since bote is garbage as minor

but decent as major

and lucid is bis minor

[dense axle]

Got it. Makes sense

[strange python]

how did you guys separate melee on queens court

cause our rl is saying all melee on silivaz

[dense axle]

I dunno if I wanna farm all that honor, so I'm just going to use concentrate flame

[strange python]

shouldn't we spread the melee on both?

[tropic ocean]

theres 1 melee mob

that casts a shield

where everyone needs to stand inside

[cobalt pelican]

1 boss ranged 1 boss melee is fine

[tropic ocean]

usually thats the mob you're on as melee

[cobalt pelican]

feel free to switch whenever the fk you want though

[strange python]

cool

and the other one does the big aoe, right?

that you run from

[cobalt pelican]

yea

[strange python]

how often does she do that

[cobalt pelican]

not very often but i couldn't give you a timer

[strange python]

cause im just thinking about the spread mechanic

[tropic ocean]

depends on ur killtime iirc we had 3 shields

[strange python]

we have like 6 melee + 2 tnkas

[cobalt pelican]

it's not enough that you're going to be like dam i can't hit this girl

[strange python]

so the spread mechaninc will be aids if we're all on the smae one

[cobalt pelican]

nah it's fine

[strange python]

kk

ty guys

[cobalt pelican]

when you get the spread decree thing you can just

wander over to the ranged mob

if you want

[strange python]

did you guys keep bleeds up on her?

say if im on the melee guy the whole time

i guess if im close to her i will

[cobalt pelican]

only with step

[strange python]

kinda like 5th boss BoD

ye

cool

we're at the 5th boss atm but im g uessing we'll only get to zaqul

that guy looks like a huge step up

[tropic ocean]

its not a really hard fight if casters downstairs pump and mark properly

its basically just last phase thats challenging

[unkempt karma]

been away for a week, I assume that we use iris essence in m+ ? Herodamage doesnt have any more statistics regarding m+

[royal lantern]

iris is pretty good in m+ yeha

[cobalt pelican]

iris seems to be one of the better ones, don't think the 'best' has really fully settled

iris is easily accessible and good tho

[royal lantern]

just dont be that 1 guy that bolsters everything up with it

[visual quartz]

Zaqul is hella fun

[cobalt pelican]

so go for it

[royal lantern]

pls

[visual quartz]

the haste bonus on the red room for Asn is 👌

[unkempt karma]

Awesome thanks, will remember the bolstering part ^^

[bronze wagon]

you think iris major bote minor for more crits on fan?

or lucid minor

[balmy kraken]

Is focused resolve really much better then superior agility pots for raid ST?

[arctic walrus]

Do you have r3 bote

[cobalt pelican]

unbridled fury is the recommended potion

[royal lantern]

you guys gave me that information 4days after i spend 80k on focus pots

[arctic walrus]

Agi pot is 400 dmg behind fury for me personally

[manic pike]

sim it. fury sims 300 dps lower for me. Especially after they fixed focus to not break stealth

[azure sluice]

when should i renew garrot and raprute and should i renew them durning ventda?

[unreal bluff]

w/ cyclotronic blast do we want to use it before popping vendetta / toxic blade on pull or once they're on cd?

[scarlet sequoia]

just use it after vendetta

[wet ruin]

I would say use it when you are first energy starved or if you have to move

[scarlet sequoia]

i use it just before 2nd toxic blade, pooling energy anyways

but i dont play lucid major so idk

[balmy kraken]

At what rank does condensed life-force start beating memory of lucid dreams as major?

[unreal bluff]

yeah it makes sense to use it when everything is on cd and pooling, just wasn't sure since it does like ~55k dps lol

[manic pike]

Never use it during vendetta since it doesnt benifit from it and you cant use anything else for that 2.5 sec

[arctic walrus]

Rank 3 life force > everything else

[bronze wagon]

Are you guys holding bote for 2nd vendetta or using on CD

[solemn meadow]

hold

always hold

[outer anchor]

Haven't played since season 1 and there's no more mythic+ sim on hero damage. Shrouded suff is still the king for mythic+?

[vestal wren]

eb and ss are

[outer anchor]

Ty sir

[bronze wagon]

@solemn meadow ty brother

[prisma dagger]

do you guys have a macro for cyclotronic blast use? or you macro it to mutilate?

[ripe shell]

how do I know whether to use agility pots or focused resolve?

[solemn meadow]

I use fury

you sim which does the most dps for u

cyclotronic blast cannot be macrod to anything

since doing anything will break the channel

[ripe shell]

can you tell me how I sim that? or where

[wet ruin]

sims seems to be wrong atm so how do you know

[solemn meadow]

you need to use it on downtimes when you are starving for energy

www.raidbots.com

sims already got updated for the nerf of the crit potion

[wet ruin]

My sims are not using vanish

[arctic walrus]

There's a "simulation option" if you scrolldown in raidbots, under more advanced options, you'll see a drop down menu for pots

Link the sims @wet ruin

[wet ruin]

do you not believe me?

[solemn meadow]

if you do not send sims

We trust in facts

[wet ruin]

I will send in a minute

[arctic walrus]

I mean, I want to see what would cause it

[solemn meadow]

has nothing to do with believing

[wet ruin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/82Ya5KY8mL6wNLdEBpGDkq

[distant lava]

mikihisa mentionnend it

[solemn meadow]

Why do you sim quick sim too tho

[sullen hollow]

unbridled fury or focusing resolve

[solemn meadow]

I never sim quick sim

[sullen hollow]

for st

[distant lava]

in #tc-research already, mystler is going to push an update

dw

[wet ruin]

waht does it matter

[distant lava]

@solemn meadow you quick sim to see what the sim does

[solemn meadow]

I never had problems with top gear

lemme check quick sim if it works for me

[arctic walrus]

Also You really shouldn't be running rank 1 blood in major over a rank 3 lucid, no way that's correct

[solemn meadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vVW4FeVChDgXSimWRqqrFW

uses vanish for me

3x

[arctic walrus]

you have rank 3 blood

[solemn meadow]

I do

[distant lava]

it's

being

handled

[sullen hollow]

man

giga dagger

[naive pier]

whats the best potions to use for st

[arctic walrus]

Yeah, it's an issue with non rank 3

[sullen hollow]

so unbridled is better than focusing resolve?

[arctic walrus]

Most likely yes but sim yourself anyway

[solemn meadow]

it sims better for me

[sullen hollow]

i mean i can why, crit buffs with blood+vanish and the undridled pot

i can see why

[wet ruin]

thats why I sim, too se if its better or not

and rank 3 lucid only affects minor power

[distant lava]

dps wise

[cosmic pier]

another day, another failed attempt to collect boots

[blissful moss]

I have iris simming highest for me, then lucid then blood. Am I missing something? Or low on a stat?

[cosmic pier]

[arctic walrus]

major?

[solemn meadow]

@cosmic pier

[blissful moss]

Yeah

[solemn meadow]

I have those

like 4x so far

never ever will I get the Ori

[cosmic pier]

i should have kept them for a hall of shame, thats my fifth pair with socket that isnt crit boots

why was adding a socket not a benthic upgrade cost

like for fucks sake

[past marten]

Does the sim calculate cyclotronic correctly?

It sims lower than the inkpod

[frail gate]

All of limit and method are expecting and saying there’s no way that blizz doesn’t nerf the benthic pieces in some way shape or form. So I’d start saving your pearls for Tuesday

[past marten]

and I thought inkpod wasn't doing too hot

[vapid scarab]

I mean you thought wrong

[past marten]

Great, I take positive surprises

@frail gate What else would you spend them on? There's nothing else you can do with them, really?

[frail gate]

I’d just save them for either upgrading certain pieces, lucid r3, or anything else. The benthic azerite shoulders fully upgraded are pretty good

But it’s 350 pearls for last upgrade

[naive pier]

do u think cyclotronic gets effected if i have an increase crit on the target?

[distant lava]

yes

[strange python]

Hey guys i need your help regarding the opener with MA:
So the start is clear: Garrote -> Multilate -> Rupture
But how do you continue:

1. Multilate -> TB -> Vendetta+Trinket -> Vanish -> Envenom
2. Vendetta+Trinket->TB->Multilate->Vanish->Envenom
3. Vendetta+Trinket->Multilate->TB->Vanish->Envenom
   4.Vendetta+ Trinket -> Vanish->TB->Multilate->Envenom
   All over warcraftlogs the openers are different and these 3 are the variations. I am not sure which opener to use 😄

[tribal marlin]

option number 2

[polar cape]

I like option 3 with lust on pull exept swap the tb and the vanish

[tribal marlin]

yes it's option 3 but tbh it doesn't really change anythiing

[rancid bobcat]

Anyone have a weakaura that yells at you if you don't have a certain talent equipped when i a zone?

and essence too

[junior hawk]

According to wowhead i should use: [Force Multiplier] enchant. While Icy Veins tells me to enchant: [Deadly Navigation]. What is correct?

[tropic ocean]

wowhead

[rancid bobcat]

both

[tropic ocean]

but the best solution is

sim your char

[rancid bobcat]

you can have 1 enchant on each weapon

[junior hawk]

I use deadly and quick navigation now

But might just sim my char than

[rancid bobcat]

it's usually force on 1 then whichever your setup favors

out of navigation

[summer parcel]

Anywhere i can see how decent pocket sized trinket is?

[solemn meadow]

[summer parcel]

i did buy i have a 418 pocket trinket with red card :; 1214 haste for 12 sec and yellow with 173 haste +57 crit and my 400 spyglass is still simming 600 dps above

how is that possible

Is it really that shit

[cosmic pier]

cyclotronic is the answer

[summer parcel]

huh?

[cosmic pier]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=167672/cyclotronic-blast&bonus=0:1472

[summer parcel]

oh that one

[tropic ocean]

@junior hawk pretty much force multi will be better on 1 wea

weap*

its giga, uptime wise

[summer parcel]

its been nerfed tho

[cosmic pier]

its still very good

[junior hawk]

Thank you 😃

[summer parcel]

better than 1,2k haste proc?

[cosmic pier]

haste isnt that good anymore

just sim it, use gear compare on raidbots to try punchcards without swapping them

[visual viper]

does anyone know of a weakaura that works when your vendetta procs from visions?

[civic palm]

Any WA that shows when Vendetta is on the target should work fine.

[cosmic pier]

you probably shouldnt be using visions

but any WA that normally tracks will track it

[visual viper]

i'm using it in pvp, it procs on targets im not currently not targeting though because of dots

[civic palm]

Sooooo

[junior hawk]

Simmed the stat weights, and it gave me this. Considering I still lack some gear, the balance looks ok?

[cosmic pier]

stat weights are a fairly useless tool

top gear is your best friend

[junior hawk]

Than I'll try that ^^

[cosmic pier]

good for roughly gauging upgrades

[amber sun]

how come the ashvane trinket sims so high now did they change something?

and azshara one os lower

[shy axle]

someone has the feeling lucid does not work that well on Zaqul? Anyone knows if there are problems?

just wondering

[cosmic pier]

what do you mean doesnt work?

[shy dust]

Do you mean it’s bugged and doesn’t work properly or it’s not as effective on that boss

[solemn meadow]

Azshara

is such a cool fight

I love it

[shy dust]

I love the fight

Ten times more than Jaina and thousand times more than Ghuin

[solemn meadow]

I hope we kill her today

maybe I get a gud log too

gud log seems ez

[void gazelle]

So how should i use Razor coral trinket?

[arctic walrus]

Font is not simming correctly, if you want to see approximately it's real value, sim it while running subterfuge

[shy dust]

Font should be fixed sometime today on the nightly build it was said

[opaque tree]

Can someone please explain to me the nightly / weekly difference? When I sim it I think it autos weekly. Should I be simming nightly instead?

[cosmic pier]

yes

most up to date

[solemn meadow]

fuck

only 91

shittiest try

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/A7NzB4ZwDtpfdGbF/#fight=last&view=rankings

fuck me

kill was waaay too long

[polar shale]

youll definitely feel lucid less if youre getting the haste buff on zaqul

[placid dawn]

what is this, damm

[polar shale]

pretty much all it gives is passive healing and vers

[placid dawn]

that rank 3 is massive

[civic palm]

More importantly, why does 6 seconds of 50% crit over a 6min fight give you that much DPS?

[solemn meadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6s5MbXGJVxB2AJpzBauvP4

holy shit

lurker and azshara?

uff

Do we know what I should use first?

Azshara or lurkers?

[urban plover]

Anyone can answer why i sim 1k dps higher with subterfuge and 0ss?

[solemn meadow]

because of your traits?

send me ur sim

[shell lodge]

is "Best in slot" updated?

[urban plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nBFqT2HoQ4HVXxuJLxKJjH

[solid nova]

Best in slot remains left in 2013.

[solemn meadow]

theres no best in slot

you need to sim everything

[summer parcel]

What prepots are best these days for assa btw guys?

[solid nova]

Socketd/wf/tf and you can add benthic gear to that list mean it's better using top gear

Herodamage/blood mallet for generic sims

[drifting cloud]

@urban plover its because MA and Azshara trinket apl is currently broken

afaik

[solemn meadow]

@summer parcel Probably for you fury but you need to sim

[urban plover]

so MA is prob still better for me

[solemn meadow]

Do we use azshara or lurker

on pull

[vapid scarab]

I would say azshara since you can precast it

and then just use lurkers asap

[bronze holly]

god

damnit

[crisp steppe]

@solemn meadow why u trying to flex bro. 91 is better than ur avg yeah

and good in general

considering the type of fight it is

[solemn meadow]

well I know I can do alot better

and it was a shit try

[vapid scarab]

week 1 normal parses

[solemn meadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oduK8sxmLzQx56Y2fGf59K

these gloves are insane

[lost sentinel]

is there a coral trinket post?

[solemn meadow]

the crits are insane with the azshara trinket

no TK

[cosmic pier]

who needs sub rogues lmao

[warped shoal]

@lost sentinel yeah in the tc-updates channel

[cosmic pier]

jesus thats bonkers

[solemn meadow]

The opener is bonkers too

2-4 crits

from 60-100k

[lost sentinel]

so basically convert only right before 2nd vendetta?

does that sound right?

[solemn meadow]

covert?

convert*

is that a trinket?

[lost sentinel]

the coral trinket

second use takes the stacks you built and buffs you

[plain flare]

Hmm, so i should always leave the coral trinket debuff stacking until second vendetta? I'm pretty sure i was using wrong, before toxic blade ,-,

[vital haven]

has there been any changes to any openers now with essences and the trinkets?

[frosty obsidian]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[flint star]

Should I refresh Rupture in TB window?

I mean pandemic

[dense holly]

Anyone that would be able to link BiS gear for Sin at the moment?

[cosmic pier]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

[dense holly]

welp, i meant a list overall

[open reef]

hello , when to use mechagon trinket with blast - on cd ?

[cosmic pier]

check the pin in #wow-general for trinket

and @dense holly theres no such thing as BiS anymore with WF/TF/socket

[dense holly]

yeah.. i guess thats true. what would you say are the optimal trinkets then? Cause im thinking it can't be 2 Use trinkets, since 30 delay.

[golden relic]

when do u use this azshara trinket lul

[civic palm]

Whenever you feel is right.

[golden relic]

[dense holly]

What would you say there @cosmic pier

[cosmic pier]

youd be suprised

[dense holly]

about the best trinkets?

[cosmic pier]

whatever sims highest for you

[dense holly]

welp

[cosmic pier]

like a trinket can +30

then its good

[dense holly]

2 ues trinkets can't be that good

[vast forum]

if they're both 455 socket

they can be

[cosmic pier]

punchcard + lurkers is what a lot of people are using atm

[dense holly]

well yeah. but lets say 430 as HC is right now

[lethal magnet]

best pot still unbridled fury?

[cosmic pier]

@lethal magnet probably, but sim just in case

[stuck knoll]

If 1 of the 2 is a buff and the other is damage 2 on use is fine

So long as you don’t lose a cast

Because you only want to use the buff with vendetta

You want your damage trinkets outside of vend

[carmine lynx]

the new sim gear from herodamage , is with subterfuge , does that mean the head will be used with SS + NP ? and same with gorak tul's will it be used with SS+BBi ?

[final dust]

Is there anything known about Font of Power Simming Incorrectly?

It shows on hero dmg beating out my 425 Alchmy Trinket but in Raidbots the Alch trinket is still better

[vapid scarab]

@flint star no, you should plan better so you don't have to refresh bleeds during TB, even if that means refreshing them early

[spice frost]

just dropped my shrouded suffocation traits and swapped to master assassin, during vanish i should always toxic blade then mut env spam?

[rotund mural]

best azerite traits for azshara fight?

[zenith gust]

do i have to have 4+ CP before going vend->vanish->TB ?

[cobalt flame]

Is cyclotronic affected by any dmg taken increase abilities ? Not talking about vendetta only but like all classes in general

[stuck knoll]

If a target has an x% damage taken increase it should work with the trinket

[cobalt flame]

So for exemple if disc priest uses schism and then cyclotron he deals 40% more dmg with it ?

[stuck knoll]

No cuz Schism is white listed

Class cds don’t work

But if a mob has a damage taken phase like 1st boss ML it would work

[cobalt flame]

Yeah thats what im asking about. So no class cd can increase its dmg ?

[daring cave]

Anyone know best race to run Sin as?

[civic palm]

A breathing one.

[daring cave]

I'm seeing Mag'har orcs

Rofl

[fresh ginkgo]

how about if i like playing undead

[vapid scarab]

it literally doesn't matter

[civic palm]

It's a fat shrug my dood.

[solemn meadow]

azshara breaks stealth

disgusting

[civic palm]

very

[shy axle]

any tipps/tricks for Zaqul?

[cerulean walrus]

Do the thing

[acoustic atlas]

press buttons

[woven summit]

Hey guys you using Iris for keys or is blood better?

[cerulean walrus]

Oh boy...

[woven summit]

Still dont have minor slot

[solemn meadow]

iris is probably better

[gloomy jolt]

I think blood is only better rank 3

[cerulean walrus]

Check Bloodmallet man

Iris fucking stomps at all 3

[woven summit]

Noice

Just got it rank 2

When is best used?

Does it line with anything?

[solemn meadow]

no just use it on cd or when you know

theres a big pack

and be careful with bolstering

[woven summit]

I see. As I thought. Thanks

[solemn meadow]

it deletes small adds

[woven summit]

That powerful huh? Noice

[solemn meadow]

its like a steroid dh eyebeam

just that it hits with 20k per tick

[woven summit]

Ill use it with responsiblity

[solemn meadow]

instead of 3k

[woven summit]

Damn. Always wanted to have something like a DH eyebeam

Im excited

[solemn meadow]

on 4 it's a kamehameha

rank 4*

[woven summit]

Rank 4 is just cosmetic right?

[vapid scarab]

yes

[woven summit]

Oki

Kamehameha lol

[solemn meadow]

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/018/979/242/original/luis-aguas-12-iris.gif?1561486374

[white basalt]

Isnt it almost for sure getting nerfed?

[woven summit]

Damn

That looks godlike

[royal lantern]

it doesnt show you the 9bursting stacks he just got

[short wasp]

Does rank 3 add damage? Or is it simply a decrease in casting time?

[opal oyster]

what should i craft in Mechagon?

[jolly fable]

does anyone else get taken out of stealth at the start of queen azshara fight?

[royal lantern]

rank3 is not really different

you can move during the channel and the first hit gives you 2stacks on the minor

dps wise, the essence is more or less done with 2

[nimble tartan]

NERF BENTHIC

[solemn meadow]

@violet yew that emote is amazing

[near pilot]

am i seeing top 3 IO's all sin or are they logged out from raid??

[solemn meadow]

outlaw is not that amazing anymore

without reaping

[harsh sphinx]

[near pilot]

theyre even using DD/NP though

[solemn meadow]

can't pad anymore

then thats raid

[near pilot]

thats what makes me feel its their raid set lol

[stuck knoll]

[civic palm]

o _o

[woven summit]

Begulling is crap

I miss reaping

Or infested

[rigid mango]

Beguiling feels fun

ngl, I'm sorta enjoying it from the limited amount of keys I've done today

It just takes a while to get used to, map out emmisary spawns and we gucci

[woven summit]

Yeah maybe it will grow on me

[rapid dew]

Hey guys. Whats the bis essence for assasi? Is it condensed life-force? if yes, how can i obtain it?

thanks

[sharp lily]

Life force comes from the raid.

Until you get rank 3 life force lucid dreams seems to be the go to.

[cerulean walrus]

What’s the BiS essence? Hmmmmmmm maybe it’s on Bloodmallet

Or in the pins

[solemn meadow]

or in your sims

😃

[sharp lily]

Instead of being snarky with the same amount of effort you could have just answered?

[vestal wren]

@white basalt i hope they dont nerf iris, it helps specs with terrible aoe

[near pilot]

rank 1/2 of lucid is so much more powerful than others until rank 3's

ST anyway

[rigid mango]

uhhh no

I've seen r2's outsim lucid

blood/flame can outsim it

[rapid dew]

thanks you for answering

[sharp lily]

Yeah it's all dependant on your gear. It's important to

[slim parcel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kZwxnuck8MNw3Trb5KTyi5 Do you guys think 2 on-use trinkets is really worth using?

[cerulean walrus]

Never

[civic palm]

If they sim better, yes.

[cerulean walrus]

They have interlocked CDs

[vapid scarab]

which the sim takes into account

[civic palm]

usually

[slim parcel]

Alright thanks guys

[lone mirage]

What traits are good for raid ?

Azerit traits ^^

[royal lantern]

derp

stack DD if possible

1xNP is good

[devout gazelle]

Guys can i sim different cards on my trinket without change them in game?

[royal lantern]

raidbots gear compare

[lone mirage]

So mm+ traits en raid traits are completly different ?

[royal lantern]

yes

if you want 1 set for everything, outlaw is the way too go

for m+ you want too stack EB/TTK and 1xSS

for raids you want 1xNP and stack DD

[lone mirage]

i ve actually 2 ss 1eb

For m+

And 1 np

[mortal gyro]

potion of unbridled fury vs superior battle potion of agility?

which is more dps?

i dunno how to sim pots 😦

[celest swan]

unbridled

u can copy this under an advanced sim

copy="Superior Battle Potion of Agility"
potion=superior_battle_potion_of_agility

copy="Potion of Focused Resolve"
potion=focused_resolve

copy="Potion of Empowered Proximity"
potion=empowered_proximity

copy="Potion of Unbridled Fury"
potion=unbridled_fury

[mortal gyro]

cool, thanks

[devout gazelle]

so if we fight only 1 target the crit pot is better than agility?

[rare zephyr]

yep

wait no its not the crit one

this one

[exotic meadow]

whats the technical reason for why the sims keep changing?

[vapid scarab]

#tc-updates

[rare zephyr]

probably cause it depends on essences

[acoustic atlas]

@slim parcel 450 Font of Power? Relax dude

[cobalt pelican]

keep changing in what regard

[strange python]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[flat trout]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[barren sleet]

So is the mythic + 3x shrouded/ensang playstyle dead?

[royal lantern]

that was more or less only a thing in S1

[karmic galleon]

hey guys, in M+ should I go nothing personal or twist the knife (I know about fan and SS, i mean on tiers that im forced to choose)

[royal lantern]

ttk

gives you more imo

with 2-3 ttk traits you can do a pseudo sub rogue priority dmg playstyle too burst down important targets fasters+its a boss dmg increase

NP is not really that helpfull for aoe, and only for bosses

[barren sleet]

So talent wise I should switch to toxic blade, lose 2 of my SS in favor of TTK

For M+

[rigid mango]

You need one ttk

You always go tb

Exsang is really meh atm

[harsh sphinx]

it really depends on affix, dungeon, group comp. theres no "bis" M+ setup for assa that i know about at least

[rigid mango]

You need one ss*

Not ttk mb

2/2/2 is feeling dope atm ngl

[royal lantern]

1ss>stack EB>fill up the rest with ttk if you can

[rigid mango]

Nah

Not 3 eb anymore

You don't pull as big

[karmic galleon]

i tried 3 eb, had lower damage than 2 ss

[rigid mango]

I think higher ttk/ss is the better choice with beguiling

[royal lantern]

tbf, bigger pulls will happen again when people catch up with gear

[rigid mango]

Esp during bolst

Sure, but you still need to blast emmisaries

I think 2 eb is a good spot

2/2/2 or 3 ttk 2 eb 1 ss is the good shit atm

[royal lantern]

im running 3xttk 2xeb 1xss right now

[light kestrel]

Any data on the deployable vibro enhancer trinket? Noticed there's nothing on hero damage

[royal lantern]

but tbf, thats just because its my best setup without buying new stuff 🤷

[rigid mango]

Idk 2 eb memebeam feels hella good

Don't think you ever need more tbh

[royal lantern]

*bolsterbeam

is the correct name

[rigid mango]

No defo meme beam

[royal lantern]

people use it, and 8bolster stacks appear out of nowhere

[rigid mango]

People suck ig

[midnight flower]

2/2/2 has been it since s1 it’s de wey

[barren sleet]

Whats 2/2/2?

[vestal wren]

but you need full prio damage 3 ttk?

[rigid mango]

2 ttk 2 eb 2 ss

[severe bough]

Hello

that build's good for a 10?

[rigid mango]

S1 2/2/2

[severe bough]

also, blood or iris?

[vestal wren]

but wouldnt it be better to go outlaw for prio damage 🤔

[rigid mango]

Iris

[severe bough]

kk

[rigid mango]

You don't need HARD prio damage from my experience

You need good prio, 2 ttk 2 ss does that

[vestal wren]

theny why use ttk at all

[rigid mango]

Ss aint bad

Because ttk is still good?

[inner tree]

ik pin says to get the dmg to abberation belt but is vim's actually decent ?

[rigid mango]

It brings good prio

[inner tree]

just got it with a socket

[vestal wren]

so does ss

[rigid mango]

Yes?

So what are you trying to say

[inner tree]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=170368/vims-scalecrusher-clasp

[vestal wren]

nothing, just thinking that ttk might not be as relevant

[rigid mango]

Ttk is for sure good

With 3 ttk you can feel the impact of the envenoms

[inner tree]

?

[rigid mango]

What?

[stuck knoll]

feelies

I sense them

[rigid mango]

heck you

Ok rephrase, you SEE the impact

[polar shale]

more like you feel them

[rigid mango]

When their hp goes CHUNK

BOP

[inner tree]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=170368/vims-scalecrusher-clasp

is that decent

got it with a socket

[rigid mango]

It's good ye

[vestal wren]

yes its good

[inner tree]

ty

[lone mirage]

Just done a wm 10 , 26k overall, i dunno what i can do better

[rigid mango]

Dps, probs

[amber talon]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[amber talon]

I currently have focusing iris and lucid dreams at rank 2, but my heart is only lvl 52. If I get the guide correctly, I should be using lucid dream right now, correct? And then move it to the 55 slot and put in focusing iris in the main one once I reach lvl 55

[rigid mango]

For ST, yeah

[fresh ginkgo]

Iris as minor not major

[lone mirage]

Lol zine i abuse of subterfuge on each pack + fok and etc..

[rigid mango]

[nimble tartan]

No More Benthic!!!

[rigid mango]

Yeah well, obviously not well enough idk

[amber talon]

I’m mainly doing dungeons so went for focusing iris, but the rotation feels clunky and overall slow without the Regen provided by lucid dreams

[rigid mango]

In dungeons?

Most of the time you have perma energy reg

You're only lacking on ST

And that gets solved at 55 when you can pick lucid minor

[fresh ginkgo]

Memebeam

[rigid mango]

[lone mirage]

just to have an idea u guys do 30k + ?

[rigid mango]

Play better, idk what you exactly want us to say

[fresh ginkgo]

Tell you what I made my team mad has heck in shrine before the second boss. Beamed all those small ass mobs to make one big boi

[rigid mango]

There's nothing I can magically say that'll make you do more damage

Get better gear, play better

[lone mirage]

yes i know it

[fresh ginkgo]

Watch some rogue streams

Seli streams m+

[shrewd night]

@rigid mango How come condensed is so much better with MA? Is it because rockman gets crit too?

[lone mirage]

i did it already

[rigid mango]

It's not better

If you're looking at my prev comment

I explained it a bit lower down

atm you overcap on crit with MA + BoTE

meaning Sub > MA sooner or later

but when BoTE goes, you wont overcap crit

MA is good again

[shrewd night]

Im talking about condensed tho, not bote

Or am I dumb.

[rigid mango]

life force, yeah

[harsh sphinx]

[rigid mango]

I assume you read what I said earlier ye?

Because in current context, sub can be better than MA, even with full DD build thanks to overcapping crit with MA + BoTE

but when life force comes out, you wont use BoTe major anymore, and wont overcap with MA

[gusty ice]

is there any way to sim different punch cards??

[rigid mango]

So now there's no reason MA will be bad

@gusty ice You can edit the APL, even though I don't know how to do it

It's not MA being bad, or life force making it better

it's BoTe making it bad, atm

[shrewd night]

I think we are talking over eachother. My question, very shortly is - Why is Condensed with MA such an increase over no MA condensed as seen on herodamage

[rigid mango]

Uhh afaik Life force shouldn't be much better thanks to MA?

[shrewd night]

https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/essences/1t-t24-assassination

[rigid mango]

Like, you didn't read what I said way earlier?

[shrewd night]

I tried scrolling

[rigid mango]

like 10 hrs ago or smth

[shrewd night]

Oh yikes, Im not scrolling that much

[rigid mango]

hm

MA doesn't give life force crit

Since MA only works on rogue abilities

[shrewd night]

Like, Im looking at that graph

[rigid mango]

I honestly dunno why it's simming so much better

[shrewd night]

And Im full

[rigid mango]

The haste from r3 shouldn't make it much better

[lone junco]

Good content. People freaking about meta changes cause they de'd all their crit gear and didn't keep the bbi pieces.

[rigid mango]

[cerulean walrus]

Just item restoration

[royal lantern]

i cant scrap my old gear

[rigid mango]

@shrewd night I'm as confused as you are

[royal lantern]

didnt got new stuff yet

still running all the items i used in 8.1

[shrewd night]

@rigid mango Guildy was like - Hey shiennar. Explain.

[teal scaffold]

What are the bis Assad trinkets right now

[shrewd night]

idk man

[rigid mango]

Like

It's only r3 too

[royal lantern]

even the warfront gave me frking vers/mastery boots

[rigid mango]

And iirc it's just the haste you get from r3, right?

[shrewd night]

Ye

[rigid mango]

I don't see how that haste makes MA much better

[shrewd night]

Are you sure MA only applies to rogue abilities.

[cerulean walrus]

It does

[rigid mango]

Yeah.

100%

[cerulean walrus]

Actually wait

[rigid mango]

It doesn't give crit

[shrewd night]

Wowhead doesnt show a whitelist ability list

[cerulean walrus]

It just states that it’s boosts Crit by 50%

[rigid mango]

Crit rating atleast

Nah

It gives 50% crit to rogue abiliteis

not flat 50%

[royal lantern]

ye, he is right

[shrewd night]

Because there is no chance the haste from condensed suddenly makes MA god tier.

[royal lantern]

your crit% stays the same

was different with legion shoulders too, they gave flat 100%crit

[lone junco]

Those mongo haste procs will let you drop haste a ton and stack crit. I look forward to big boi crit again.

Fake haste from procs will leave some dry spots in the rotation.

[rigid mango]

You don't gain anything in your MA window from more haste

[lone junco]

Praying for a lucid minor refund.

[rigid mango]

Already asked man

[royal lantern]

more autoattack crits

[rigid mango]

just in the right channel

[shrewd night]

[rigid mango]

[royal lantern]

❤ each other

[rigid mango]

@shrewd night

[shrewd night]

[rigid mango]

Dude why did u have to point this shit oooooout

I'm so confused now

[royal lantern]

we are all stuck in the same''how the fuck does it work'' situation

[rigid mango]

[shrewd night]

Good luck sleeping tonight zine

[fresh ginkgo]

It just works

[rigid mango]

I'll fixate on this for hours

[fresh ginkgo]

Cmon guys

[rigid mango]

Hours

[royal lantern]

no memes

[rigid mango]

[royal lantern]

ik

im sorry

no mute

[lone junco]

Mizerok was looking at the pooling gaps in the sim.

[rigid mango]

Which ones

[lone junco]

Get ready for 4.1s. Pool

[rigid mango]

There's a lot of wack shit going on with sims atm ngl

The use of font for example

[royal lantern]

thats why i dont sweat it too much right now

so much stuff is still weird

[lone junco]

Still fine. Boots plus heavy crit stack is gonna be nice imo.