assassination

[rigid mango]

Wooooooo

[empty tide]

445 blightborne, 1 billion crit

Its funny cuz rogue is the only class that gorak tul has op

[dark crag]

Sadly residium is pure rng

[royal lantern]

just dont waste it till you can buy a specific piece

[polar cape]

Or even essier, get lucky <.<

[slender smelt]

people using lucid essence, have u changed your gems/enchants?

[rigid mango]

Sim

Change accordingly

[frosty obsidian]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[frosty obsidian]

!macro

[marble hemlock]

lucid+deeper+3ttk is fun in keys ❤

[rigid mango]

Is it something that looks genuinly good?

Or more fun

[marble hemlock]

good and fun

[rigid mango]

Anything instead of blood

[marble hemlock]

wm23 and i had less dmg on reaping than monk

[rigid mango]

Looks good

[marble hemlock]

can do some insane prio if reaping is up

obviously gonna have to re-evaluate with new affix

[rigid mango]

3 ttk ds sounds good for

[marble hemlock]

but st is very solid too

[rigid mango]

Void funneling

Pump that dmg into it

[marble hemlock]

since you can set up TB windows with 3envenoms by desyncing vendetta and lucid

no need to drop them at the same time, and getting 3x5+ envenoms into TB is solid for sure

[rigid mango]

Ye for sure

[polar cape]

DS new meta inc

Sub was merely assasination

[cold rampart]

can u take jaina freezing orbs in myrthic?

take it so the raid cant get hit by any

[spice surge]

with cloak yes

[tropic ocean]

u mean the small ones in intermission?y

[lone junco]

3x DD Tb windows should turn out pretty nicely.

all the muts.

[tropic ocean]

y u use vendetta and lucid together? XD

[lone junco]

not mine.

I just like the energy flood for st pump.

will be able to drop a bit of haste.

[woven summit]

Will we have different stat prio for different essenses?

For example it sims mastery for lucid

Will it have a different stat weight for Iris lets say for example

[young meteor]

What's DS?

[crystal vessel]

Deeper stratagem I believe.

[hard pagoda]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[kindred cedar]

Any major changes came to assa except the essences to assa rogues?

[white basalt]

Zero

[kindred cedar]

Ah okey

Pearl of Perspicuous Intentions so thats the one you want for assa in raids?

[white basalt]

What the hell is that lol

[kindred cedar]

https://www.wowhead.com/guides/assassination-rogue-azerite-essences

Essence

[civic palm]

That's not what the Essence is called but yeh, it's good.

[kindred cedar]

Yeah saw i copied wrong lol

[white basalt]

Yeah for now at least. Its referred to as lucid dreams

[kindred cedar]

ah cool

you buy it for 50 pearls?

[white basalt]

Nah you raise a follower to level 3

Which takes 2 days of dailies

[civic palm]

Unbound Force is the pearl vendor essence.

[kindred cedar]

Yeah i did that

so i can just go straight ahead to compton and buy it?

[civic palm]

Unbound Force yes, Lucid Dreams takes the follower exp.

[kindred cedar]

Yeah i got a follower to lvl 3

any info/recommendations out when it's best to use/combine it in opener/rotation?

[woven summit]

best to use when below 50 energy

[odd rampart]

I try and not line it up with vendetta ever also

Recipe for over capping

[woven summit]

well you get under 50 energy during vendetta as well

you just don't use it at the same time

[kindred cedar]

So a good pointer is to pop it after vendetta expires?

In opener?

[odd rampart]

Yea, the minor makes it really easy to overcap during vend

[twilit portal]

got the Blood enemy r3 tomorow, this is done after

[past marten]

What exactly makes it easy about the minor one to cap during vendetta? It's not linked to it, so I don't really get where you're coming from @odd rampart

[vapid scarab]

because during vendetta you have a large amount of energy income already, so any additional energy (ie. from the minor) makes it very easy to overcap

[polar cape]

On top of OP proc

[odd rampart]

The minor has a chance to refund energy spent on abilities mate. Just because it's not linked to "it" (vendetta I'm assuming your referring to) doesn't mean there isn't an interaction there to consider

[mortal slate]

!essences

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[kindred cedar]

Im at the vendor to buy lucid dreams, but cant even see any recipe for it?

[vocal kelp]

its a quest ^

[kindred cedar]

ah now i found it

thanks alot ❤

[strange python]

when you shadowstep on stormwall , do you teleport to the front of the boss or behind the boss and into the water?

[brisk forge]

Front

[strange python]

they mustve changed it

bc i just got yeeted into the water

and i swear that's never happened before

[brisk forge]

Was long time ago i killed Storm so might have changed it but i doubt it tho 😜

[strange python]

#bug then

[past marten]

@marble hemlock what traits did you use next to 3x TTK?

[marble hemlock]

2eb 1ss

[proud prawn]

They changed it. I shadowstepped on stormwall this week and killed myself

[strange python]

^^

😜

[spice sorrel]

FeelsRogueMan

[spiral blade]

Is the best time to use lucid dream essence within a toxic blade window or is it something else?

[rigid mango]

When sub 50 energy

Regardless of sync or anything

If you go sub 50, press the button

Normally doesn't happen until half way-ish of your vendetta, longer if you have BL

[strange python]

is there a weak aura string to signals this ?

[rigid mango]

Just look at your energy

[strange python]

I played ret before this, I'm used to the game playing itself

but there probably is, and if not i'll build one

[haughty badge]

What trinket combo are we looking at

[rigid mango]

Don't know how good the new ones are so idk

But lurkers is an insane trinket

Kimbuls seems really good for st, and standard dice/spyglass for mt

[haughty badge]

I cant, for the life of me, get lurker to drop

[rigid mango]

Unlucky

Plumage is your next best

[haughty badge]

and for azerite i assume we are still looking at maybe the helm from zaq with gorak and ceph?

for st

[rigid mango]

If the prio stays the same, yes

Which there's nothing indicating it wont

[haughty badge]

last question. I know there is an essence guide, but what is the thought process on the major/minor combo rn?

i have lucid rn

[rigid mango]

Life force maj + lucid minor

Is currently the highest simming pair from the ones I've seen

But we need to raid before getting life force, and the sims I saw were all r3

So not exactly sure tbh, we'll have to wait and see when sims become better to check that stuff

[haughty badge]

I know for sure lucid minor but damn did life force get buffed or something

[rigid mango]

Uhh idk not afaik

It's just a staple one, but it scales poorly

[haughty badge]

i might not be thinking of the right one

[rigid mango]

So we might swap later

It's the pet

[royal lantern]

life force is the add that spawns for you

[haughty badge]

ah guardian

[rigid mango]

Idd

[royal lantern]

and dmg proc minor

[rigid mango]

Exactly

[royal lantern]

lucid major feels like such a waste right now lul

[rigid mango]

It's simming equal to lucid atm, but lucids minor is carrying lucid

The major is v meh

So taking some other major and only the minor from lucid, seems near sure

[haughty badge]

Guild had me be a dh main last tier for debuff. I recruited a new one to go back to my rogue. So all of this is just slowly being cranked into my brain and flushing out the dh gear ideas lol

thanks for the help

[rigid mango]

Nps

[fleet whale]

holy hell vision of perfection is really bad

[rigid mango]

Yes

The minor is worth fuckall

Since it's worth more to save it

[fleet whale]

it's kind of funny though

when bfa pre-patch came out, everyone was crying when vendetta was back to a 2 min cd

months later, we want vendetta as a 2 min cd lol

[strange python]

"and for azerite i assume we are still looking at maybe the helm from zaq with gorak and ceph?
for st" what does this mean?

[rigid mango]

The bis az pieces

[fleet whale]

cause those pieces have DD

[rigid mango]

Zaq helm, goraktuls shoulder, cephalohide chest

Totals at 3 dd 1 np bbi ttk 3 op

[fleet whale]

idk what blizz was thinking with some of this azerite in the new raid, so much of it has SoB

[rigid mango]

Those vakues might change

It's garbage

Giga sad

Reroll here I come

[fleet whale]

i mean there are good pieces in the new raid

[strange python]

do those come from dungeons?

[haughty badge]

Gambiling Simulator

[fleet whale]

i just don't know why blizz insisted on having Scent of Blood on like 3 of them

[rigid mango]

2, yes

Shoulders from WM, chest from Siege

[royal lantern]

i think the traits are randomly generated lel

[frosty obsidian]

!azerite

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Azerite overview: https://bit.ly/2U86I7o

[frosty obsidian]

any azerite trait strings?

[vapid scarab]

No, traits don't work that way for that to be an accurate method of what to use

[frosty obsidian]

thanks

[strange python]

"Zaq helm, goraktuls shoulder, cephalohide chest
Totals at 3 dd 1 np bbi ttk 3 op" what is 'bbi ttk 3 op'?

i got the 3 dd and 1 np

[haughty badge]

twist the knife= ttk and blightborn infusion is bbi

overwhelming power is op

[strange python]

ty

So we don't want shrouded suffocation?

[vapid scarab]

not for ST

[fleet whale]

it's not bis, but it's not terrible if you have nothing else

[frosty obsidian]

ditb v ttk?

[rigid mango]

Ttk

Ss is a top tier trait

It's not far behind the others

But it becomes superior when you can get 2-3 garrotes off per vanish

Aka cleave

[past marten]

Do the values for the major essences on herodmg/bloodmallet include the minor essences?

[strange python]

thank you!

[rigid mango]

Yes

Majors include minors afaik

[spice surge]

Not on bloodmallet (for some reason)

[rigid mango]

And use herodamage, afaik it's more updated

[spice surge]

Which is why herodamage is better

[rigid mango]

^

[strange python]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[past marten]

Thanks

[haughty badge]

pocket sized computation device just trash tier for everyone or what

[rigid mango]

Yep

It's just underpowered

[haughty badge]

i have a 370 doom's wake that sims almost 800 higher than it kek

[white basalt]

I bet it gets buffed. Perhaps new punchcards with raid currency or something

[rigid mango]

Probs

[white basalt]

Anyways i saw a haste crit dagger drops of first boss 👌

[rigid mango]

Indeed, it's v nice

[white basalt]

What are you guys plan on bonus rolling on?

[strange python]

hey zine where does the zaq helm come from? I've been looking for it in the dungeon journal

[rigid mango]

1st

[white basalt]

Grammar fail but you know what I mean

[rigid mango]

Zaquul

Hence zaq helm

[strange python]

where is he at

[drifting cloud]

in the new raid?

[rigid mango]

7th

Iirc

Yes

[drifting cloud]

yeah its 2nd to last

[rigid mango]

@white basalt probs 1st and 7nd

[strange python]

ty

[rigid mango]

If I could

Just daggers for the mean time probs

[white basalt]

@zine yep 1st and 7th is the move I see. Thx

[rigid mango]

Since it'll be a while until we're on zaquuul

I'll bonus roll on him on hc

But I'll probs bonus roll other pieces, weaps/trinks before

[white basalt]

And bonus roll first boss on mythic until you get a dagger obv?

[rigid mango]

Yah

I'll bonus roll daggers every week probs

Until I have a good one in mainhand

[grave elk]

what essence should i pursue atm for m+?

[rigid mango]

Then I'll just bonus roll crit/haste for offhand probs

Blood seems good

Possibly lucid

[grave elk]

lucid for m+ ? really

[white basalt]

Perhaps for folk spam? Idk

Fok

[rigid mango]

Seli was talking going lucid with 3 ttk deeper strat

It seems aight

But we'll have to wait and see, we can't really know

It depends on how the affix plays out

[bronze kelp]

Lucid as minor and iris as major will be my go to after I reached 55

With a 3 TTK build I guess it will be a good choice

Just don't know if I go 1ss 2 EB or vice versa for the season start

[strange python]

Zine, how come you said Lustrous Golden Plumage is second best to Lurkers? Plumage raises versatility, wouldnt Galecaller's Boon that raises haste be better for ST?

[bronze kelp]

Gcb has a down side, and that is the static thing u have to stand in

U can't always take full advantage of it

[strange python]

Thank you

[rigid mango]

Plumage syncs w vend

Since both 2 min

And yes, it's good if you always can stand in it

But realistically you wont

[strange python]

that makes sense

[peak saffron]

any of the new weapon enchants any good for us?

[rigid mango]

Yes

Force

Force + highest simming stat one

[strange python]

So ideally Lurkers, if not then Plumage, combined with Kimbul's for ST? If don't have Kimbul's then is Loaded Dice a suitable stand in?

for MT you would use both Spyglass and Loaded Dice?

[rigid mango]

For mt you'd probs want lurk/plumage still

M+ for example

For st, just sim shit

[strange python]

Can I post the list I've made so far for gear, and you tell if it's accurate? I'll delete it afterwards if it's not

[rigid mango]

Sure

Or link it

[strange python]

thank you

============================================================================
Azerite Gear

BIS

Helmet: Shroud of Unmooring Whispers= Za'qul from The Eternal Palace
Shoulders: Gorak Tul's Mantle= WCM
Chest: Cephalohide Jacket= Siege of Boralus

Single Target

(Outer Ring[1st])
3x Double Dose: "Strikes of Mutilate"

(2nd Ring)
1x Nothing Personal: Helmet
1x Blightborn Infusion: Shoulders
1x Twist the Knife: Chest

(3rd Ring)
3x Overwhelming Power

---

AOE

2x Shrouded Suffocation: Helmet and Shoulders
1x Echoing Blades: Chest

Trinkets 8.1.5

Use [Link with Vendetta]:

Lurker's Insidious Gift= Uu'nat from Crucible of Storm
or
Lustrous Golden Plumage= King's Rest

Equip:

Kimbul's Razor Claw= Conclave of the Chosen from BoD
Dead-Eye Spyglass= Siege of Boralus
Harlam's Loaded Dice= Freehold

Essence

Major: Condensed Life-Force
Minor: Memory of Lucid Dreams

[rigid mango]

Yeh, pretty good

M+ azerite seems a bit uhh

Off?

[strange python]

what do you mean?

[rigid mango]

Your aoe section

Just 2 ss 1 eb

[strange python]

that's the only thing the gear offers

as far as I can tell

[peak saffron]

so you're only accounting for one set of gear

[strange python]

yes

[peak saffron]

welcome to assassination where you need 3-4 different sets

of azerite

[strange python]

...

is outlaw this complicated ?

[peak saffron]

nope

[strange python]

cool rerolling combat then

[rigid mango]

Yeah

Outlaw needs one gear set for everything

Sin needs one for st, one for cleave, and then like 2-3 for m+ dependant on week etc

Most good pieces have the other traits on them tho

[visual quartz]

Its fun though, hate looking at other classes/specs and seeing like "use these 2 traits 3x is your only option GG"

[peak saffron]

yeah it definitely adds to the skillcap that assassination has. it can just be overwhelming if you're fresh diving into the spec

[visual quartz]

or some classes use the generic traits as BiS, not even class specific, that makes me sad

[royal lantern]

mate

for holy priest ALL generic traits are better then the class traits

like, really, not a single spec specific trait is good lol

[strange python]

I enjoy sin because there's more to do than combat, but I want to be raid ready for july 9th and from the research I've been doing thus far I won't be optimally prepared as sin. So possibly going combat till I can get sin set up efficiently is my best option. What do you guys think?

[tropic ocean]

you can't do much wrong as sin

especially in raids

[strange python]

where as you can in combat? wdym?

[tropic ocean]

well as any dot spec

its more forgiving when you need to move or have downtime due to bad decision making

and the rotation itself is pretty straight forward and easy

like even if u dont pool properly and just press everything all the time u will do decent dps

when I started playing again in antorus I never really pooled and just pressed whenever I had energy to press something and it was more than sufficient dps

whilst from my personal experience outlaw is more punishing if u do bad decisions or movement or w/e

[strange python]

but getting optimally set up is ridiculous considering Azerite pieces from chest is random

and you need at least two sets of gear to discern between ST and MT

then I would figure you possibly need more depending on M+ affixes

[vapid scarab]

you don't "need" any of that, all you need is a ST and an AoE set, possibly a 2-3 target set if there's a council style boss in the raid

[karmic galleon]

hey guys what build is optimal for M+ only, poison or bleed?

[raven mural]

!Essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[vapid scarab]

@karmic galleon not sure what you mean, there's one build and you just swap azerite pieces

[karmic galleon]

toxic blades or exsang

[obsidian ruin]

toxic blade for basically all situations

[karmic galleon]

and poison bomb or crimson

[obsidian ruin]

poison bomb

[karmic galleon]

what kind of rotation am I doing in aoe, cuz with that build I kinda lack in aoe situations a lot

almost below tank :P

[cerulean walrus]

Just multidot

[vapid scarab]

It depends on target count as well as traits

[urban ledge]

What should my main focus be in arenas?

[spice surge]

Asso aoe without echoing blades 🤢

[frosty obsidian]

how many EB for it to be worth it

[urban ledge]

Sap one player, then blind him if he trinkets and then go for the kill target?

[spice surge]

#pvp for arena questions

If you are aoeing you get EBs

[urban ledge]

Ah ok, thank you

[ornate meteor]

If im doing m+ and using crimson, do i crimson on boss always or just ignore and use rupt + envenom?

[vapid scarab]

you shouldn't be using CT in the first place

@frosty obsidian for what to be worth what

[spice surge]

^ There really isnt a point to using CT. However, if you do you do not use it on anything below 3 targets

[strange python]

what ?! No CT for M+ even with teeming?

is hidden blades better?

or just always use poison bomb in any scenario

?

[spice surge]

Yeah just pb

[opaque tree]

With how things look now in terms of damage. Wouldn’t it make sense to take Lucid Major with Crucible minor and iris minor?

[rigid mango]

Why would that make sense?

[opaque tree]

The difference from lucid rank 3 and life force rank 3 are slow slight. There is a larger gap between Iris and the next minor?

[rigid mango]

I doubt lucid major will be taken as soon as we can get life force

They account for minor in the major on sils

Sims*

The minor for lucid is what makes lucid so good, not the major

You'll swap it for life as soon as probs and then go life major lucid minor

[opaque tree]

Oh I see, it’s charted together

[rigid mango]

As for last one, that's so far away it's hard to speculate

[opaque tree]

I thought it was separate. That’s good to know.

[rigid mango]

With how life scales poorly, and how shit goes

Maybe we'll take smth diff later

But for the time being lucid, until raid when it'll be life + lucid, probably

[opaque tree]

Well I was also thinking in terms of Bossfights. If there are some fight where you can’t keep up the buff on a target. It works like vendetta correct? If the target becomes unattackable, you lose it?

[rustic onyx]

Can sim about essence be trusted right now ? I just got 55 and rank 2 flame + minor rank 1 lucid sim higher than the other way around. I'm quite surprised

[opaque tree]

Iris looks cool. Really sad that visions is so poor. 😒

[rigid mango]

Uhh sims are shakey

Follow them, but take w a pinch of salt

I'm glad vision is garbage

[rustic onyx]

it's 100 dps difference so i guess i should just play what i prefer if sim are not that accurate yet

[rigid mango]

Looked atrocious to play on ST

Yeh more or less

Lucid major is bleh

[rustic onyx]

I prefer it over flame

tbh

[rigid mango]

I'd not be shocked by that result atleast

[opaque tree]

I just don’t like the minor trait on Visions

[rigid mango]

I don't like anythinf about visions

Minor sucks ass, major is rng based dps increase rhat has chance to be good and chance to be meh

[opaque tree]

Is the percent chance to proc different for all classes?

[rigid mango]

I'd assume ppm is fixed

[opaque tree]

Ours is 25% but I heard from someone in my guild, a warlock, a different number

[rigid mango]

Iirc it's just a 1 ppm on visions

Might depend on major cd length

[opaque tree]

Ah

[stark oxide]

But have the sims checked visions major with 3xNP? Thats when it would really shine. Not that I want to go that route but I can see that being good

[rigid mango]

Yes

It's still not that good

Minor does nothing

[midnight flower]

Still early to be writing off essences. It will ebb and flow as we get access to more gear.

[rigid mango]

Doubt a lot of then will ever be touched though

You can just see they're bad

[grizzled crypt]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[hollow stream]

Anyone farming 50k honor?

[royal lantern]

yes

sadly

[frigid briar]

yeah

[rough acorn]

what u guys think about Abyssal Alchemist Stone as trinket ? worth it ?

[celest swan]

what are the estimated trinkets for us? are any raid trinekts good?

[sacred flint]

what you guys think of the new pots? havent had a chance to test the fury one yet

[royal lantern]

i would use them over the old pots

idk, higher stats seem good (im sorry)

[sacred flint]

well ofc higher stats gonna be better than old ones lol

[strange python]

What's the thoughts on crimson tempest vs. poison bomb in m+?

[rigid mango]

Pb better, don't go CT

[past marten]

Based on the current sims and the fact that you won't get life rank 3 so soon (not even r2 in first mythic week if I understood the gating correctly), it looks like blood major and dreams minor might be bis

Not accounting for no-lifeing to 60 neck level and for potential changes in sims obviously.

[simple meteor]

any enchants from the new ones is good ?

[royal lantern]

isnt blood pretty.....ddecent for single target?

[past marten]

Looks like it's the 3rd best rank3 major right now. Dreams gets carried by its minor, as already discussed here.

With Life being gated by raid resets and Flame being gated by neck level (60 for r3), Blood might be the only r3 option for when mythic hits, even more so for heroic/normal obviously..

[stuck knoll]

Tbh if you wanted to getting 60ish neck by mythic is probably less or around the same farming as r3 blood

[faint harness]

R3 blood a valid option, said no one ever

50k honor mate

Rank 3 focusing iris on st, lets go

[past marten]

I've seen people running around with this essence on Friday evening

[faint harness]

Yea, these ppl are nuts tho

[stuck knoll]

Yeah after hard grinding for it

Where as you could take a few weeks to get to 60

[faint harness]

50k honor is like 150 bgs

[past marten]

It's BG week though

[faint harness]

During bg week

[stuck knoll]

Clear wqs do weeklys and paragons a few islands

Getting to 60 for mythic week seriously won't be too bad imo

[faint harness]

Unless you win every single bg ofc

Well its over a million ap right

[past marten]

I'm just going to go for both neck 60 and 50k honor

[simple meteor]

i am at 30k honor 20k more atm its a grind boys dont do it ;p

[past marten]

Easy

[faint harness]

I am at 9k honor

[past marten]

Wasn't it 600k ap for 60?

[faint harness]

Well in togalt

Total

[past marten]

Yes

[stuck knoll]

It's not a million a after the nerf I think

[muted heart]

does anyone know if shadowmeld procs master assassin talent?

[stuck knoll]

Idk what it is but a million sounds too high

[past marten]

600k total is what I heard

[faint harness]

The ap curve is very steep

[past marten]

1500 mythic Islands

[faint harness]

Yikers

[past marten]

Easy :^)

[faint harness]

World first guilds aim for 60

[past marten]

That's crazy, not for all alts tho right?

[faint harness]

Unless you're a hardcore grinder i think its gonna be a rough one

[simple meteor]

for 2 chars they aim 57 on both

[polar cape]

If anything blood for the minor rank 2 is safe bet

Grinding r3 on top of everything is a bit extreme

[faint harness]

Also if you aim for 60 you might as well get life force from heroic azshara the week before mythic

Thats rank 3 as well

Mythic is rank 4

[past marten]

Isn't it locked out?

[faint harness]

Mythic releases one week later

Always has

Or do you mean you wont get enough items

[past marten]

Thought you had to combine those items that drop? Like 18 for rank 2.

[faint harness]

Honestly dont know how many they drop

[past marten]

And it's 3 bosses that drop it. So if they only drop one per difficultly, it's 6 for both heroic/normal.

[faint harness]

Also lucid is pretty much locked in as minor now right? Not blood

[past marten]

Yes, if nothing major changes

[sage ice]

how is the new weapon enchant?

[past marten]

Which could happen anytime they change stuff in simcraft

Good

Best dimming stat plus new enchant is bis

[faint harness]

Think you want it, i use it in mh at least

[remote oak]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[stuck knoll]

Tbh we still have hc tuning to go so something may change anyway

[past marten]

True

[faint harness]

Thats what ppl say every tier and it never happens

[stuck knoll]

For all we know the time lost one that tps you becomes god and we all use thay

[past marten]

Pls don't make vision viable, pls don't

[faint harness]

"shadow priest might get nerfed"

They very rarely actually nerf something in those balance runs. Usually buff shit stuff

[past marten]

It feels like every time they update the sim, blood becomes stronger..

Feelsgrindman

[faint harness]

Also if they acknowledge ppl farming their ass off for something, they wont do a kneejerk nerf to it

[past marten]

Depends on how broken it actually is

[faint harness]

When would you use blood

Right after vendetta?

Or treat it like vanish?

[past marten]

Probably align with vendetta in opener, then with each tb

[faint harness]

2 crit windows

Maybe 2nd tb

[past marten]

If fight takes long, then you can align for vendetta at 6min

Why would you delay?

[faint harness]

To get max benefit of it

[past marten]

Being what?

[faint harness]

Ppl are so scared of delaying cds in this game

If you wont get another use it literally doesnt matter

[past marten]

You get more crits off during vendetta

[lone junco]

And. Vanish alignment is huge.

[past marten]

Which is multiplicative

[lone junco]

Desync of vanish vendetta is a major problem.

[past marten]

So delaying is a dps loss

[faint harness]

It takes 5 mins to see what the current apl is doing tbh

[past marten]

Then check :p

[faint harness]

Not that it is perfect, doubtful

[spice surge]

You use blood with vendetta yes

[faint harness]

Yea but when

[past marten]

What when

[faint harness]

Right after MA buff from vanish drops

?

[spice surge]

before tb

[past marten]

Normal opener, then vendetta into blood into tb

[faint harness]

Vanish??

[lone junco]

Blood plus ma plus gear hit 💯?

That's exciting

[spice surge]

vanish after blood

[stuck knoll]

If you're using both blood + ma why not try being greedy with env mut env

[simple meteor]

they day has come after we lost legion shoulders to reach 100% crit

[stuck knoll]

Rather than the normal one

[past marten]

I'd play Vanish after TB to get two Envenoms into ma

[stuck knoll]

^

[faint harness]

After the 10 sec version of blood i assume

[past marten]

But that's matter of taste

[faint harness]

Yea i also tb into vanish

[past marten]

But bottom line is: pop blood directly after vendetta

[spice surge]

Well, before the tb in vendetta yes

[past marten]

Yes

[faint harness]

Yea sure, but is it worth stacking ma witj blood

[lone junco]

Fiche Did you just go from asking to telling in like 30s?

[past marten]

Why wouldn't it

I didn't ask

Push asked

[spice surge]

Yes its worth stackingthem

[faint harness]

Over 100% crit here we come

Feels like a waste but i guess the sims is saying its better

[lone junco]

I liked selis DS m+ with the energy trait.

How much xrit is coming from blood?

[faint harness]

20%

[lone junco]

Raid gear is like 25 crit right. 50+ 25+ 20.

[stuck knoll]

I mean when I have ma I don't get 100

[lone junco]

Plus ench and trinkets.

[faint harness]

25% more crit dmg for 3 globals?

[lone junco]

Sounds nice tbh.

[faint harness]

Well yea

[past marten]

You only hit 100% if BBI procs

Or if you stat into crit/have crit enchant

Afaik

[frigid briar]

Doesnt the new pot give us 20% crit aswell?

[faint harness]

With around 440 ilvl you'll creep closer to 30% crit without specing for it

[stuck knoll]

At rank 3 it's also buffing crit damage too

[lone junco]

Saw seli hit 67% today without blood or Ma Made me lol.

[spice surge]

Thats with reorigination gem from the mechagon trinket though, but yeah

[stuck knoll]

Yeah focused whatever pot but that's only for pure ST

[frigid briar]

How far are people into honor grind ?

[faint harness]

Are we actually using that if we use blood

Seems like a dps loss to sit on another 20% crit

[spice surge]

Do we actually want increased crit chance if we have increased crit damage

Yes

[lone junco]

What is the grind source for Blood?

[faint harness]

But you get it already

[frigid briar]

Bgs

[simple meteor]

whats the goo to pot atm for single btw boys? 20% crit or the agi one?

[past marten]

Mate, we are talking 3 globals

[faint harness]

Yes

[simple meteor]

prolly if you have enough crit you go for the agi one right?

[faint harness]

For the crit dmg

[spice surge]

The crit one is so much better that the agi one isnt even close

[past marten]

There's another couple of globals without 50%

[spice surge]

No crit

Crit pot always

[faint harness]

How much rating is the pot

[frigid briar]

Crit one os like 800 dps stronger than agi on ST right?

[faint harness]

For easy comparison

[lone junco]

3ttk env with bonus will make for a nice hit.

[spice surge]

20% crit @faint harness

[faint harness]

Yea

[spice surge]

1440

[faint harness]

But how much rating is that

Ok

[stuck knoll]

Yeah @frigid briar

[frigid briar]

Did anyone make 50k today?

[faint harness]

3 ttk monkas

[stuck knoll]

I know a couple at 50k

[past marten]

Many did

[faint harness]

Mate i have seen a guy with rank 4 already

[stuck knoll]

Guy is at 50

[frigid briar]

We went ham all day, only got to 30k, not done AV for the 4k though

[faint harness]

Some random shaman in the heart room was flexing his rank 4 visual

[frigid briar]

Sick of bgs already

[past marten]

Some people are just nuts

[faint harness]

Actually insane person

[lone junco]

Is lucid dreams the engineering card craft?

[faint harness]

Probably honor exploiting or something

[frigid briar]

Russains are win trading 40v40

[lone junco]

I'm losing track betwwwn alts.

[faint harness]

Not surprised

[frigid briar]

We seen it a few times today

[faint harness]

Lucid dreams is follower xp in nazjatar

[past marten]

Lol

[frigid briar]

They take the demos and just go hide them at edge of map, cant get the gates down so we lose

[meager nebula]

@faint harness was that some orc shaman?

[faint harness]

Yes

[past marten]

Are you doing BGS or EBGS?

[meager nebula]

yeah i saw that one

[stuck knoll]

Move the bg talk to #wow-general please

[meager nebula]

the visual looks so lame

[faint harness]

He was using artifice of time tho

The spinning circle

[meager nebula]

yhe

ye*

[faint harness]

But yea, farming 50k, no better week than this

For the blood

If you raid and have many ppl that want the blood i can recommend rbgs

They give quite a lot of honor for the time investment

[quasi pewter]

hm honor do you get per bg?

win/loss?

[faint harness]

750 per win

And its regular bgs that last for a normal non-epic bg

[frigid sleet]

normal BG give about the same

[faint harness]

I got like 4k honor in 5 games tonight, first game was better.

[stuck knoll]

Not trying to kill the conversation but again please move this talk to #wow-general

[simple meteor]

so boys agi pot only for aoe?

[quasi pewter]

aoe there is the one with more agi the more targets you have

[stuck knoll]

I think it was agi at 2 targets

[faint harness]

Does anyone know if the crit pot gets removed on mouse over macros

[quasi pewter]

and the other new one at 3 right or something?

and 4+ the aoe agi one

dont remember i think it was something like that

[faint harness]

Sometimes theres wonky shit to abuse with "change target" spells or pots, and you can mouse-over hit other mobs and keep the buff

[stuck knoll]

Afaik it's if you damage someone else it drops

Idk how it will work with poison bomb or ground shit

[faint harness]

Even if you spam fok

[quasi pewter]

if it didnt drop on fok

it would be insane

pretty sure it drops

it would also make the agi aoe pot useless 😄

[faint harness]

Other shit like that dont drop on aoe as long as you keep hitting main target

[quasi pewter]

i would test

but herbs are 200 ea on my realm

[faint harness]

There were 4 crit pots in total on my realm last time i checked

Feelsdeadrealm man

[simple meteor]

man so many pots :S

[quasi pewter]

im actually so happy im changing guild just for the fact alone im leaving my dead realm

but have to kill uunat first

yikes

[lone junco]

What's that crit potion called

[quasi pewter]

focused resolve

[faint harness]

Like i am on a dead realm that is still ranked 6 in terms of pve progress

But thats also off topic

Stormreaver EU loyalist tho

[lone junco]

Data is too bad to check undermine journal. Rip

[faint harness]

I'll test the mouse over macro shenanigans tomorrow, probably wont work cus it would be broken. But worth the try

[civic palm]

It should work, want me to test it now?

[quasi pewter]

if you have the gold to spare

[lone junco]

I assume it works. As long as you don't change target. A lot of classes can't control cleave.

[faint harness]

If you can spare a pot

[civic palm]

I've the potions to spare in this case.

[quasi pewter]

but fokking should drop it

or

[lone junco]

No way.

[quasi pewter]

would be so broken imo if it didnt

[faint harness]

It wont drop it i think, but it might not give you 20% crit on any other target

[quasi pewter]

ah

sure

didnt think about that

[civic palm]

FoK should not drop it

[quasi pewter]

i forgot it only gives crit to the target

[faint harness]

If it works more of a debuff instead of self buff

[lone junco]

It could be a target debuff as well. I'd expect it to be a buff that persists like the Kara trinket.

[quasi pewter]

pepega

[hazy iron]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[quasi pewter]

but would still be real nice for prio targeting

sub comeback ?

[faint harness]

Dont rub it in

[lone junco]

:|

[faint harness]

Open wound

[quasi pewter]

im sub main

when its actually playable

[faint harness]

Same

[quasi pewter]

[civic palm]

This potion might blow ass on anything not purely single target.

as Rupture ticks might be removing/resetting the stack.

[faint harness]

Really

[civic palm]

It's also, while not labeled, only a 25s buff.

[faint harness]

Big yikes

[quasi pewter]

well all pots are 25 apart from the unbridled fury thing right

[civic palm]

it also won't go higher than 5%

[faint harness]

Wait what

[quasi pewter]

[faint harness]

Wtf is this

[civic palm]

full auto attacks and abilities, did not go higher than 5%

[quasi pewter]

well

[faint harness]

[quasi pewter]

it says up to

but idk

[civic palm]

It does start @ 0 and increases.

[faint harness]

So if you go full blast, regular st opener

It doesnt go above 5

[faint harness]

If its rng im done

[quasi pewter]

stealth nerf

[faint harness]

Thats giga shit aint it

[civic palm]

Dunno how the fuck this is meant to be UP TO 20%.

Seems a tooltip error or not working correctly.

etc.

Burned 3 of them, not burning more as this seems shit.

[quasi pewter]

now do 1000 tests and see if its just tooltip

[faint harness]

Well maybe its cus its a dummy target thing

Like sometimes dummies have pvp rules

For some reason

[civic palm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[faint harness]

5% crit for pvp sounds reasonable, but not for raiding content

[civic palm]

Either way we need to make sure that the APL has the spell as stacking the buff and not just giving 20%.

[faint harness]

Yea, if you kept the details logs you could check crit numbers

[civic palm]

FoK resets the stacks as well.

[faint harness]

🤢

[civic palm]

DoTs will do so as well.

[faint harness]

Sadface

[civic palm]

So, enjoy that piece of shit.

how much you wanna bet BF resets it?

[faint harness]

Well i would assume so

[civic palm]

It does.

[faint harness]

So who is this pot for

[civic palm]

Literally only ST.

[faint harness]

5% crit pure st

[civic palm]

for 25 seconds.

Poison Bomb didn't remove stacks from what I saw.

[faint harness]

Would have been awkward if it did

[civic palm]

Course.

[quasi pewter]

did you have warmode on when testing?

[faint harness]

Unless the target is pvp flagged

It shouldnt matter

[quasi pewter]

true

[faint harness]

Would have made wqs while in warmode a nightmare

[civic palm]

Yeah it would.

But no.

no WM, in SW, target dummy.

[grim canopy]

so is blood good?

im so bad at pvp , I attacked this DH at low HP but somehow he healed to full and killed me in a few seconds lol

i just want this shitty essence and be done w/ it

[hazy iron]

the way I understand it is that it's good for m+ or aoe situations, but mediocre for anythign else

unless that has changed over the past day

[grim canopy]

aww damn

so i gotta do this shitty side game

[fleet whale]

Focusing Iris could end up being a suitable substitute if you hate pvp

[lone junco]

@civic palm biggest yikes.

[fleet whale]

tbh i think i'm just gonna stick with the new agi pot

far more reliable imo

[opal minnow]

check unbridled fury, might do better than the agi pot

does for me in raidbots at least.

[fleet whale]

yeah but how is it in aoe

[merry orbit]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[civic palm]

@lone junco the biggest

[opal minnow]

was better in cleave. didnt check 3+ or hectic cleave

was also better in st

[short depot]

wnothing personnal is better than DD are you serious ?

[fleet whale]

only when looked at one on one

but there are other factors

[short depot]

in bod double doze is better right ?

dose*

[fleet whale]

it's more about the other traits azerite pieces had

like NP may sim a little higher but because of how things are, the bis setup involves 3 DD, 1 NP, and 1 Blightborne Infusion

[nimble tartan]

anyone else feelin cute today

[mystic charm]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[lone junco]

😍

[celest mirage]

!wA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[signal crag]

should we run double Force or only 1 force?

[daring atlas]

Have you sim?

Mine shows only 1 is better

[midnight flower]

I just took a po

But yes 1

[signal crag]

what i figured wasnt sure if raidbots was on the fritz or not just wanted to check

[daring atlas]

Raidbots is a great starting point, I know they are working on it but if the APL isn't up to date it is fucked

also @midnight flower was it smooth or rough

[midnight flower]

No push just gliding 👍🏽🍻

[tribal marlin]

APL are mostly up to date and simc should be linked to live data for quite a few days by now so you can trust raidbot

[simple meteor]

i keep getting out of stealth on bgs

with out having any debuff

wtf is happening

[midnight flower]

Voodoo

[simple meteor]

yeah lots of reddit posts about it so new patch broke our stealth feelsbadman

[rough agate]

Are you running lucid memory

[simple meteor]

nop

[lilac sparrow]

https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/essences/1t-t23-assassination
why lucid lv3 provide dps increment? it just provides leech

[muted jacinth]

think its more cdr too?

[woven bane]

does anyone got an actual good opener if you play lucid dreams? do you just open normal and use it after the opener sequence?

[hazy iron]

yes

dont stress about holding the energy regen until you need it

usually best to use toward the end of vendetta / after it, when you're lower than 50 energy

[woven bane]

thx

[fringe estuary]

How's sin in m+ now?

[visual quartz]

dude my stealth just turns off randomly running around doing WQs as well...figured I was fat fingering it

now?

Always amazing, what ya mean now?

[loud pine]

have u a good eLvUI sin rouge ? pls link it for me thx

[fringe estuary]

@visual quartz Now meaning 8.2 😛

I quit for a while but it was like all outlaw hype b4

[loud pine]

if u have ELvui asasin link pls give it to me ( profile) thxd

no one .?:D

[rustic onyx]

https://wago.io/elvui/classes/rogue/assassination

[loud pine]

@rustic onyx hmm y i know wago

😃

but links are not good

[daring atlas]

Here is my UI with a weak aura for it

also for opener with Lucid and talent build 2,3,1,3,3,2,1

I do garrote , muti, rup, Ven, Muti x3 , env, lucid etc

again my preference

[loud pine]

hmmm give it to me i test it

[daring atlas]

@woven bane

@loud pine dm you

[loud pine]

@daring atlas hmm?

[daring atlas]

The UI

lol

[loud pine]

ah

😄

[rustic onyx]

then sorry shadow i don't use elvui myself

[loud pine]

can u create a link of that ?

[daring atlas]

Yes

[loud pine]

@rustic onyx no np 😃 i just ask of all

[daring atlas]

i will give you a text file and weakaura txt file

you just import

[loud pine]

8.2

[quiet totem]

99% though

[vestal wren]

bod might be better for statistics

[loud pine]

in all % sin is on top

than other rogoe spec

[vestal wren]

yes, but thats expected

the spec is tunes super high and has close to no trade offs

[austere ruin]

which potion u guys use for MA opener?

[vestal wren]

probably crit one

[tropic ocean]

The one that sims highest

[austere ruin]

the crit one only gives u 5% crit lol

correct me if i am wrong

[tawny nimbus]

i thought it was 20%?

[austere ruin]

did u use it yet?

the buff says only 5%

[tawny nimbus]

"Narrow your gaze to a single foe. Your damaging abilities will mark the target, increasing your chance to critically strike them up to 20%. Damaging a new target will reset your focus. (1 Min Cooldown)"

ah, 'up to'

[austere ruin]

thats what it says, but it's not exactly what it says it should of been

go test it yourself

[tawny nimbus]

I'm too casual to pay like 2k per pull anyway. Will stick with the old ones for now

[celest swan]

anyone else having the problem that u cant see Mrrl Epic Extra Item anymore? (I have the Cloak) also i have a second char who sees it

[rigid mango]

#wow-general

[tawny nimbus]

So the new personal food looks better than old feasts? at least with my stat weights. That sound right?

100 x 2.35 (agi) versus 93 x 3.08 (mastery)

[rigid mango]

Sounds about right

[tawny nimbus]

Should the Memory of Lucid Dreams major be used with Vendetta? or will I energy cap?

looking to macro it with something

[strange python]

!essences

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[tawny nimbus]

sweet, macro to TB, thanks!

[rigid mango]

@tawny nimbus use when low energy

Sub 50 energy is the breakpoint

Regardless of syncing or anything, just under 50

[nimble tartan]

I love lucid dreams

[tawny nimbus]

Ty Zine!

[thin oriole]

Shouldnt be used on first toxic blade, so dont macro

[tawny nimbus]

oh? how come?

[rigid mango]

Well first one is during burst aka when high energy

You don't use lucid there

You use it whenever low, normally about 10-15 sec into vend when you start to drop energy (without bl that is)

[thin oriole]

you get much energy when you use vendetta and you waste energy from lucid

specially with NP trait

[tame cobalt]

wich benthic pieces are worth buying?

[quasi pewter]

possibly belt

think there is one with 2% damage increase to aberrations or something

cloak for the daily murloc stuff aswell

[rigid mango]

Belt for abb damage on 2 bosses in EP and the crit dmg feet are both good

[thin oriole]

belt with socket is nice 😃

[vagrant wigeon]

idk what to play between rogue and war fury in raid
do you think war will be better ?

[solid nova]

#wow-general

[wild edge]

do the nem weapon enchantmens stack? Or is for example 1 Force Multiplier 1x haste better?

[past marten]

FM + your best siming stat

[wild edge]

ok thanks

[strange python]

anyone know proc rate on lucid dreams minor for assa?

[thorny willow]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[strange python]

@rigid mango you're on over time champ

[rigid mango]

Hm?

[strange python]

is there a large disparity between binding Lucid Dreams to every key as opposed to using it on CD

you're doing a lot of work, I'm just appreciating your commitment to the community. Thank you for being available 😃

[rigid mango]

Ah no probs

Afaik eleem just did the sims that show that using it under 50 is the best

[reef peak]

Im actually sad Blood isnt that great. Im loving it

[strange python]

that's the one that needs 50k kills?

[rigid mango]

50k honor

Not kills

[strange python]

going to scroll up to find the sim zine

[rigid mango]

Just ctrl f eleem and raidbots

[reef peak]

Same with Vision of Perfection. I feel like that essence would be hella sick with Triple NP

[rigid mango]

Vision sounds horruble to play w on st

[reef peak]

I feel like it wouldnt be that horrible

[rigid mango]

Minor that does nothing but disrupt the spec?

Major that procs %dmf inc that can rng awesome into tb or meh into pooling area?

Sounds like a horrible playstyle, but that's me

[reef peak]

I guess it depends. but im still learning. Just rerolled from Ret

#boringspec

[rigid mango]

Myeh, I mean I think lucid is pretty boring but it''s nice

[strange python]

Palagore we're on the same boat

[rigid mango]

Higher apm, smoother rotation

:+1:

[reef peak]

Yeah. Lucid is pretty boring indeed

[rigid mango]

But it's nice at the same time

[reef peak]

it is

[rigid mango]

I'm just hyped to swap out major since that's the more meh part

[reef peak]

im 1650 on my Champions

soooo. a little past halfway to rank 2

[rigid mango]

Myeh, 10 days of dailies for r2 iirc

[reef peak]

Rank 3 gonna suck

[rigid mango]

Mmhm

[reef peak]

Its gonna take a lot more testing once all essences are available

[rigid mango]

I mean we have sims

Sorta

It's just more about scaling

[reef peak]

True

[rigid mango]

And hitting new peaks seeing what gets outscaled etc

[reef peak]

true true

Which one do you like the most? even if its not BiS

[rigid mango]

Idk

[honest needle]

is lucid best for us as of now

or crucible of flame

[rigid mango]

Lucid

[honest needle]

lucis is bis for m+ and raid

?

[rigid mango]

Raid yes, m+ don't knoe

Blood looks decent for m+

[honest needle]

do we still do 3 ss for m+

i been outlaw im switching back to assaination

[quasi pewter]

we do a mix of ss ttk and eb depending on affixes and dungeon

[umbral scaffold]

Does anyone know what benthic gear to go for?

[real bay]

1ss minimum same with eb

[mental obsidian]

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=13645/nautical-battlefield-training

6k xp with 1 or with all 3 bodyguards?

for rank3 lucid

[dusky tinsel]

you're going to have to get each bodyguard to level 10 regardless so whatever way you choose

[mental obsidian]

?

[dusty wigeon]

6k comes from all followers

[mental obsidian]

oh

so 3k is 1 lvl 10 and another lvl 5

[lone junco]

im liking the mage follower.

[dusty wigeon]

no

you can use any follower you want regardless of level, and it should eventually give you 6k

[dusky tinsel]

^

[mental obsidian]

so it dosent matter if i focus more on a certain one then

nice

[ornate meteor]

for m+ do 3 echo blade and 1 ss + 2 ttk good enough?

[lone junco]

ideal at times

[hallow coyote]

!essences

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[dusty wigeon]

so ive been told that the focused resolve pot will loose its effect if a poison bomb hits another target, can anyone confirm? 😃

[lone junco]

idk about the pbomb, but fok will drop it. and it caps at 5%

sell sell sell

[dusty wigeon]

caps at 5 what

[lone junco]

5% total crit gain

Mizerok tested a few pots last night and talked about it ^^^

current state is pretty shitty.

[dusty wigeon]

so, to ignore all sims about this pot then

[lone junco]

for now it seems yes.

it never gets to 20% and drops on fok. so its not like the Kara Crit trinket with mouseovers etc

[dusty wigeon]

well, for raiding which normally is pure st on pull for 20seconds is what i would be using it on

like uunat where i wont hit any other target

[lone junco]

it ramps up

[dusty wigeon]

or for however long it lasts

[lone junco]

so prob wont be there for the early vanish

if you play MA.

good luck

[dusty wigeon]

hmm, cheers i guess ^^

so were just using bridled or what?

[lone junco]

prolonged power sounded better than that crit pot in current state.

maybe its just bugged

[dusty wigeon]

well sims better than the others, but if its not going to be there for opener then kinda meh no?

[lone junco]

its what 20s?

[dusty wigeon]

havent used one

too much gold to waste xD

[lone junco]

sounds like 1min agi is >

[rigid mango]

The 20% crit on st is nuts

But people talkinf about 5% sounds weird

[lone junco]

have you used the potion yet?

[kindred cedar]

How do i get Lucid dreams rank 1?

the essence

[dusty wigeon]

get your naz follower to rank 3

[rigid mango]

I've seen the sims for it being nuts

[kindred cedar]

I done that

[rigid mango]

I've not used it yet tho

[dusty wigeon]

what he said ^

[kindred cedar]

But where do i get it?

my follower is rank 6

[lone junco]

there is a quest line

get on wowhead and follow it if you need to

[kindred cedar]

ah ok

Well, apparently got it in my bags already

so much shit in bags lol

[lone junco]

lolol s ame.

i didnt look for it yet

[kindred cedar]

Yeah, so much new items and reagents etc in bags, didnt even bother to sort it out lol

[dark crag]

I run a few days around with the essence for 25 kills in naz

I was sure i didn't get it

[dusty wigeon]

so nobody here can confirm whether the focused pot is broken?

[shy grove]

what is the better single target option for sin on 2nd row

[dusty wigeon]

single target master assassin, 2boss cleave subterfuge (with shrouded suffocstion traits)

[dark crag]

It's made of glass, ofcourse it breaks when you drop it

[shy grove]

so nightstalker is shit

[lone junco]

poison ticks reset potion

[dusty wigeon]

yeah

[lone junco]

fok resets potion

pb does not

[dusty wigeon]

well it doesnt matter what resets it if youre hitting 1 target