#assassination | Ravenholdt | Page 3324

wary ice Apr 17, 2019, 6:00 PM

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flash of light intensifies

rigid sonnet Apr 17, 2019, 6:01 PM

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are raidbots sims taking the raid gear effects in when simming?

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:01 PM

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~~Yes.~~

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the new stuff? you can check your sim report for buff uptimes.

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:02 PM

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@wary ice 10s

wary ice Apr 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I figured as much, but its worded like buns

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Its like 55% uptime on vendetta allegedly

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With it as major

wary ice Apr 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Demoic DH get like 90% meta lol

harsh sphinx Apr 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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55% uptime... feelings

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:03 PM

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does that short vendetta proc willy nilly?

pastel vault Apr 17, 2019, 6:04 PM

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ya

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:04 PM

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do you lose your major cast?

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or do you get your normal 2min cast + the 10s proc

pastel vault Apr 17, 2019, 6:04 PM

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the major is passive for the vendetta proc

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apparently it was nerfed on ptr? 50% -> 40% and no more 10s cdr

wary ice Apr 17, 2019, 6:05 PM

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I think you keep the Vendetta Button and periodically get 10s of uptime of it regardless of CD

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yes

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:06 PM

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random 10s is like the free bones from T21 outlaw.

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which sounds great for a DD build.

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or some constant pressure.

cosmic pier Apr 17, 2019, 6:06 PM

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ill play anything thats gets me close to antorus apm

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:06 PM

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meta with 90% uptime way more beneficial than vendetta with 50% uptime since meta gives a bump to AOE dmg as well

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:07 PM

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would get weird in cleave when it pops miniV on a random target.

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:07 PM

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and vendetta purely ST

cosmic pier Apr 17, 2019, 6:07 PM

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such little downtime

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Ret with random wings though is spicy

wary ice Apr 17, 2019, 6:07 PM

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^

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Prot warrior 😮

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a v a t a r

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In general though i think vendetta is one of the worse ones to combo that with since its a debuff not a buff

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like day said, no AoE application

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THat said IDK if theres a better ST option in the glyphs

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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if you use vendetta while its procced it doesn't extend duration

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right now anyway

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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yeah.

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was just thinking about that.

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the proc during CD.

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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yea def rather have stuff like avatar, combust, pally wings, meta

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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if it just holds on to your PPM and delays.

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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any cd that also has an AOE component

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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haven't a proc during vendetta happen yet

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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than just ST

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:09 PM

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is this PTR stuff?

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:10 PM

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yeah

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:10 PM

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shadow blades one is also meh

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:10 PM

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So is this just a sterreoid to the middle of the azerite?

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:10 PM

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since it could proc when you dont have symbols or dance available

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then its just a waste

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:11 PM

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cause I spec Holy and Ret and prot. hope it can just be respecced at the azerite guy

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:11 PM

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you can use a tome and respec

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and it's spec specific, so you don't have to re-do it randomly as you change specs

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:12 PM

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wait, not the 5g vendor

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yay for tome sales.

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:12 PM

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or be in a rest area

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:13 PM

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assassin random E gain will be lame in cleave where you cap anyway. and the random vendetta is bleh for cleave as well.

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:13 PM

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heard the motherloade one is good for cleave i think?

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:13 PM

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will make for good prio stuff, without needing to burn a cd.

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:13 PM

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well, yeah, but even that is kind of insignificant in the grand scheme

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:14 PM

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need a WA BONG sound for that proc so you stay glued a bit/.

muted jacinth Apr 17, 2019, 6:14 PM

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I'd assume the meta one gets nerfed just a tad

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Just play the MOTHER one

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The passive is absurdly strong

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Minor Power: Your spells and abilities have a chance to refund 50% of the Energy spent on them ?

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I see memory and VIsion.

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spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Go to the one that isnt spec specific

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Another post

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:15 PM

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me too noobe

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memory feels nice

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:16 PM

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i dont get why vision has a 3 minute cd?

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isnt it just a passive?

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:16 PM

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ok. thats a lot of shit

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thank god for simc.

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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ya prob blood of the enemy vs purification for m+ im guessing

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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the +1k haste though

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I want that on my hpal. thx

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=291243/patch-8-2-rise-of-azshara-all-heart-of-azeroth-essence-abilities-and-sources#dps-essences

Wowhead

Patch 8.2 Rise of Azshara All Heart of Azeroth Essence Abilities a...

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pastel vault Apr 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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blood of enemy with 3x EB 😮

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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isnt blood of the enermy the one from PVP

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luuuuuuuuuul

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Normal BGs

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So its really ez

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:19 PM

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what about the later ranks

pastel vault Apr 17, 2019, 6:20 PM

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bg achieves

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:20 PM

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More normal bgs

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:20 PM

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oh okay

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not bad

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why does vision have a 3 min cd tho? isnt it just a passive ppm for your spells to proc vendetta

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that blood one is insane for Eb specs tho

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im already at 45-50% crit in dungeons in 8.15 gear

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that proc + 850 crit gear in 8.2, average crit will hit like 65-70%

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:23 PM

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nvm the haste there are some really cool heal things

primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:23 PM

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will def destroy outlaw in aoe with those numbers

tropic ocean Apr 17, 2019, 6:25 PM

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pewpewpewpew

wary ice Apr 17, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I also think blood is best option

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Having done no tests

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:26 PM

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lol

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:26 PM

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ok. Some of these are going to be nice for M+

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primal gazelle Apr 17, 2019, 6:28 PM

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lol that engine buff

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is way too much math for my head

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 6:30 PM

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its like stacking harlans buffs with a chance to have multiples. then a chance to double them.

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somewhere in these options is an absurd ST option, and an Absurd AOE option.

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then like 14 complete garbage

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I mean, random wings for example. good for long fights, bad for the short burst window. So wings for Patchwerk, then one of these other options to overlap with crusade for a 200k ST opener.

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Does anyone here have the chart for Damage taken vs time up for the new Lurker trinket?

untold stream Apr 17, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Is there an (updated) guide somewhere regarding the new items from the Crucible ? The only thing I saw is that the trinket is siming high (don't know why since it's giving mastery), nothing about the other effects of the other items

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:36 PM

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the hands don't give you damage

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and for me my pants did 4-5% of my dmg

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and the leech trinket from the last uunat sucks bad, luckily I got a 425 one, though

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:38 PM

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i dont know why since its giving the best stats on the exact same cooldown as our main cd

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❓ ??

untold stream Apr 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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The only way to have an insight about wheter the pants/boots are an update is to sim? There's no "guideline" on something to have an idea ?

rich wren Apr 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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yes

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that's the only way to have inisght on anything that's accurate

untold stream Apr 17, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Okay, thanks anyway 😃

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Eleem, were you refering mastery as our best stat ?

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Yes

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Especially during vendetta and bl

untold stream Apr 17, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Did something drastically change regarding stat weighs ? I sim'ed few days ago and mastery is still low after haste and crit (and bloodmallet 2nd stat chart seems to say the same)

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:44 PM

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When you get better gear mastery gets better and better

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Especially azerites

bitter palm Apr 17, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Does cloak clear lurkers trinket effect or damage?

hasty brook Apr 17, 2019, 6:44 PM

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should I be running 3 NP and one SS? should I do 2 NP and 2 SS for raiding in general?

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Only prevents damage while cloak is up, doesnt remove the debuff

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You dont need SS for raiding (singletarget that is), only 1 NP is the "required" trait

bitter palm Apr 17, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Mast effect stays on though?

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Yes

hasty brook Apr 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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So I should only be using 1 NP and use other traits for the other 2 NP?

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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You should sim yourself 😃

pine grove Apr 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Yeah. It depends on what the other options are. Simming is the best way to see.

hasty brook Apr 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Was trying to just get a answer without spending a lot of gold reforging but thanks anyways

pulsar goblet Apr 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Top Gear brother

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 6:46 PM

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You dont need to reforge to sim

hasty brook Apr 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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ah that is right I can just change it myself. ty again

peak saffron Apr 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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gear compare

pulsar goblet Apr 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

Raidbots

Top Gear - Raidbots

Find the top gear combinations from your bags

hasty brook Apr 17, 2019, 6:47 PM

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ty 😄

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was trying to use ask mr.robot for that same thing but you have to pay for that feature

edgy ginkgo Apr 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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thoughts about the legs from first boss from new raid?

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/5e8e3b3cd90cc684a1fedb314821aefd.png

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i think im getting there

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 7:18 PM

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vestal wren Apr 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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#off-topic is that way

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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dps things are on topic

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but I concede

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 7:24 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/cc0333c4098fdd23be5870305eeafa5c.png

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MonkaSub

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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is that 82k env

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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it is

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with only 1 ttk

shrewd plover Apr 17, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Gem full Hate or Mastery ?

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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i had seen 100k env with 3ttk

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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23 crit 19 haste 43mast

shy axle Apr 17, 2019, 7:46 PM

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with 3 EB/3SS - 10 or 15+ mobs. Do I spam FoK due to Eb trait ( with ~ 4 ruptures or so present) and ignore the cp`s or du i wave in a 5cp env every time?

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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apply few raptures so you are not energy starved

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then fok for 4/5cp and envenom

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repeat till trash is dead

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Or dont envenom

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If you dont need to damage a specific target

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Then yes, you can just continue to fok and waste cp

shy axle Apr 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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thanks guys

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 7:51 PM

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was watching seli today in bursting, they evened all the mob hps out, and he just fokked a few times. cause they didnt want to stagger the kill.

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its a thing you can do.

wild edge Apr 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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the new boots are they playable? i mean every dmg resets the stacks, and there are bosses where u get dmg like every second

ripe nimbus Apr 17, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Only direct damage resets it

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They are very decent

sick cradle Apr 17, 2019, 8:12 PM

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wait, only direct damage?

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What about the permament dot on Jaina?

ripe nimbus Apr 17, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Not sure on that one.

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It works the same as overwhelming power

turbid oxide Apr 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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the dot on jaina removes overwhelming power stacks

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so if it is the same list of damage sources for each item then it will also reset the crit

ionic dome Apr 17, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Is Dalaran Gaming a good guy to watch for Sin vids.?

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 8:30 PM

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I would advise the wowhead guide or the one in the pins here

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Idk, think most of the stuff you need are on ravenholdt/wowhead

ionic dome Apr 17, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Okay thank you. Just wanted a good video @spice surge

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I don’t see a video. Just written guides in the pins.?

shy axle Apr 17, 2019, 8:32 PM

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videos dratnos

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guides in pins

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i find ravenholdt quite shallow, nevertheless it`s good

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Dratnos' guide for sin

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Isn't s2

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He swapped to outlaw for s2 iirc, and hasn't updated since

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And yeah @ionic dome no videos, just written ones

distant lava Apr 17, 2019, 8:34 PM

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tbh his guides should be up to date rotation wise

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maybe you need more info about new azerite setups

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Yeah but iirc azerite/talents might be off

shy axle Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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my bad thought in genereal

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Esp since they aren't reaping

shy axle Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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ral

ionic dome Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Okay thanks guys.

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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And reaping affects a lot

finite acorn Apr 17, 2019, 8:35 PM

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how can you change the uptime of the new raid boots ?

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raidbots assumes its 100% right ?

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Idk if they've added it yet, but TC has a slider where you can pick uptime, would assume something similar?

finite acorn Apr 17, 2019, 8:46 PM

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sorry , TC ?

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Treacherous Covenant

finite acorn Apr 17, 2019, 8:48 PM

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oh yeaa there isnt one yet

rigid mango Apr 17, 2019, 8:48 PM

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There's a drop down bar at the bottom where you can select the uptine

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Ah yeah, then I've got no clue :/

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:43 PM

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wait, the new boots aren't having their buff removed from general AoE, unless it's a dot directly on you? . . . . . . does that count skills like the dot on underrots last boss, or SotS 2nd bosses DoT remove it, but other AoE that isn't based off of a buff/debuff on you doesn't affect it?

hollow stone Apr 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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You could get a good idea (not perfect) by using the dps difference as a guide. If it's 400 sim dps more at 100% uptime, it is going to be AROUND 200 dps at 50% uptime and work from there. It obviously is far from perfect but its a good temporary solution for a general idea. @finite acorn

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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It works the same as overwhelming power

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Which is basicly 50/50 wether or not it gets removed by damage

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:44 PM

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idk which bosses cancel overwhelming power 😦 . . . . is there a list somewhere by chance?

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Neither do blizzard, some abilities dont, some do

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Same with feint 😄

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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then it's basically unreliable . . . . . . needs to have a lot of uptime to be good

mossy ferry Apr 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Does it cancel with the trinket dot?

hollow stone Apr 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I think im taking feint off my bars until next xpac when it has no energy cost and no cd for whatever reason blizz decides to give to us

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:46 PM

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meh, blizz is trying to find more ways to nerf rogues without it being a damage nerf. . . . . . we've been a staple in m+ for way to long

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increasing dungeon %? what cause does that have outside reducing stealth skips or death skips

hollow stone Apr 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Unless theres another shroud mechanic or invis pots or something along those lines, rogue will always be meta for m+

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Unless we're super undertuned

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:47 PM

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or unless they buff mob % up so high, that shrouding only skips like 2 mobs lol . . . . . make the teeming % the normal %

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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theres always one rogue spec in top

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been like this for a long time

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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well . . . . it's a melee class with solid damage and a strong defensive kit + shroud . . . . . with all the utility they keep removing from classes but leaving ours in tact (knock on wood) . . . . .

icy ember Apr 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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the solution is ez, be good at all rogue specs

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4Head

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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This week - 20s:
1: 3xEB, 2xTTK, 1xSS (2xOP or 2xUnstable Flames)
2: 2xEB, 2xSS, 1xTTK, 1xBBI (2xOP or 2xUnstable Flames)

I am so unsure if OP is any good in M+ And I know 3xEB is not the best but it is Fortified so. hmm

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 9:49 PM

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They're not really removing utility

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DH got even more this expansion than previously

hollow stone Apr 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Tell that to frost dks

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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i feel like they will not do anything regarding shroud

hollow stone Apr 17, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Lolol

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Frost never had any utility though, besides grip

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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if anything, they will make futher dungeons be less skip dependant

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mechagon will be probably an example

hollow stone Apr 17, 2019, 9:51 PM

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They had an aoe stun

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And a built in sprint

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And once upon a time could spec into mass grip

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:52 PM

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ya, like adding more % to the minibosses because they just have too much hp it's not worth the time killing them.

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all that'll do is kill the elite to skip more actual packs later potentially. depends on where the % lies, and how it interacts (if it does) with season 3 affix

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Is Overwhelming good in M+? I can have 2x OP or 2x Unstable Flames = More crit 😃

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 9:56 PM

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ya but overwhelming power isn't in a sacrifice for an entire items second secondary. and loses one stack or so not a full stack loss

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 10:02 PM

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So I should use OP?

solar bramble Apr 17, 2019, 10:05 PM

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if it sims highest . . . . . i don't see a reason not to, they might

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always sims highest for me

strange python Apr 17, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Ofc it sims higher. But is it M+ so i am not about the uptime

solar rose Apr 17, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Overwhelming power is overall good to have in any situation, including m+

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 10:26 PM

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god my kit is so borked.

dark crag Apr 17, 2019, 10:33 PM

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got the third gold tasseled epaulets in a row

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 10:33 PM

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ugh

tawny shell Apr 17, 2019, 10:33 PM

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you hate to see it

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so whats the talk in here? The boots buff works like OP and only resets on dmg done to you directly?

civic palm Apr 17, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Which isn't the case, as there are enough DoTs to make OP useless in some encounters.

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Though those are few and far between.

languid ore Apr 17, 2019, 10:35 PM

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What add-on is that @lone junco

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 10:35 PM

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wa

languid ore Apr 17, 2019, 10:36 PM

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🤔

civic palm Apr 17, 2019, 10:36 PM

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It's a weakaura.

languid ore Apr 17, 2019, 10:36 PM

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No I got that

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 10:36 PM

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it fits in the corner like this

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i like it anyway

languid ore Apr 17, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Ooh

lone junco Apr 17, 2019, 10:37 PM

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so I can run like 3Eb 3Dd or this 1ss 2eb 3scent.

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my shits all fucked up

languid ore Apr 17, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Nice

tawny shell Apr 17, 2019, 10:38 PM

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nice. yeah the rogue I gave boots to last night had high uptime in most of BoD. I have 425 socket so i didnt think they were worth

civic palm Apr 17, 2019, 10:38 PM

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https://wago.io/TalentSetup

allows you to not track talents/etc. but I dunno about showing it sideways and not up/down hmmm

BFA Talent Setup

Shows current talents / trinkets / legendaries / azerite gear / azerite traits glowing - new traits can be selected you

languid ore Apr 17, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Thanks

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Says it there

copper yew Apr 17, 2019, 11:07 PM

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would actually be cool if they just buff % given from miniboses

rugged jetty Apr 17, 2019, 11:16 PM

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can you bonus roll last boss in crucible if you already killed and rolled once

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was gonna do it again with a pug for trinket chance

spice surge Apr 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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On heroic yes

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Or normal

rugged jetty Apr 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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sweet was gonna do heroic again wtb trinket

short token Apr 17, 2019, 11:27 PM

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do we always want to toxic blade out of vanish with MA talented and no SS?

rugged jetty Apr 17, 2019, 11:41 PM

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either before you vanish 2 to get 2 envenom crits or during to crit it

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im been playing around with 3/4 cp tb vanish envenom x2

civic palm Apr 17, 2019, 11:45 PM

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3-4 CP ENV inside MA window is fine as well.

rugged jetty Apr 17, 2019, 11:45 PM

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yea im just trying to get 2 mythic jaina kinda fks me alot tho for some reason

marble hemlock Apr 17, 2019, 11:46 PM

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tb>vanish>env>mut>env is a bit more inconsistent, but has higher peaks than vanish>tb>env>mut

rugged jetty Apr 17, 2019, 11:47 PM

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yea sel tb > vanish is how ive been playing

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 12:06 AM

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hc CoS trinket without bonus roll feelsgoodman

languid ore Apr 18, 2019, 12:17 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/568225242149945345/MorrtYZ.png

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the thing

dense blaze Apr 18, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Can we cloak Lurker debuff?

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 12:25 AM

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it prevents the damage but the stacks stay

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#pvp

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:14 AM

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cloak doesn't prevent the damage taken from the lurker trinket

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meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:16 AM

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interesting

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my mistake then

civic palm Apr 18, 2019, 1:19 AM

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o _o

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:19 AM

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can't remember where i read that it does

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:19 AM

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tested yesterday and just now, you still take the damage and accrue the stacks

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despite suffering cast as shadow damage

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also kind of odd how the mastery buff fades then reapplies itself

cobalt gyro Apr 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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man that trinket makes you take HELLA damage

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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is it resetting your stacks when it does that?

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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nope

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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hmm

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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there are no mastery stacks

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it's just flat 933 mastery

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for 30 seconds

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well 933 @ 410 item level

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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moreso meant if it was resetting the debuff stacks, but with that damage taken obviously it doesn't

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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nope stacks continue to tick through cloak

ripe nimbus Apr 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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the lurker doesnt do enough damage to even worry about.

cobalt gyro Apr 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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what if you click it off (^:

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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trying cloaking before trinket use now

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it's a debuff

ripe nimbus Apr 18, 2019, 1:23 AM

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my healers didnt even notice i was taking any extra damage lol

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:23 AM

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same

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it takes me down to like 45% health

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without healing

ripe nimbus Apr 18, 2019, 1:23 AM

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literally a rejuv on u will heal u through the trinket

ionic dome Apr 18, 2019, 1:23 AM

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How much bettter is Poison Bomb>Crimson Temp

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:24 AM

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cloaking before the trinket use also does nothing

cobalt gyro Apr 18, 2019, 1:24 AM

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still, something to be careful about

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using it during a high dmg section sounds like death

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:24 AM

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you can literally just use a crimson vial

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and you're fine

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:24 AM

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the interaction seems a little odd with cloak

ripe nimbus Apr 18, 2019, 1:25 AM

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funny enough Master poisoner talent only sims 100 dps lower now over elaborate planning with this trinket.

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:25 AM

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but i suppose it doesn't matter if the damage is manageable

ripe nimbus Apr 18, 2019, 1:25 AM

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so like if we ever get to like 65%ish mastery MP might be better lol.

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:26 AM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g7khrW2KVwePeHmzfrJ3ta

Raidbots

Talent Compare - Btfo - 28,044 DPS - Raidbots

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MP sims -620 for me

ripe nimbus Apr 18, 2019, 1:27 AM

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oh im running sub and SS so maybe why.

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 1:27 AM

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ah

spice surge Apr 18, 2019, 1:37 AM

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MP doesnt make mastery much better though, since it doesnt work on anything besides deadly poison

raven void Apr 18, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Im having an issue where NP and Unstable Catalyst wont proc but my DD is working just fine on my azerite gear. Ive deleted cache folders, as well as taken off my neck and azerite gear, ive relogged and nothings working. Has this happened ot anyone?

spice surge Apr 18, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Reforge if nothing else works

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Reforge always works

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:40 AM

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reforging works, and for some reason dying can fix it as well.

raven void Apr 18, 2019, 1:40 AM

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im prog raiding rn, dying isnt working ill 100% confirm that

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 1:41 AM

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hmm, try reforging then. dying always fixed it for me.

dense blaze Apr 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Why is a tanking trinket on our drop table in CoS

spice surge Apr 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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🤷

fleet whale Apr 18, 2019, 2:05 AM

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It's more of a utility trinket, many other DD specs have it on their loot tables as well

haughty lily Apr 18, 2019, 2:21 AM

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does anyone elses cp bar disapper when going in vehicles like tol dagor cannon or stormwall teleporter? idk how to fix it and its been annoying me

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it happens like randomly not all the time too

cobalt gyro Apr 18, 2019, 2:23 AM

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most WA have a flag on them set to hide when in a vehicle UI.

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so it's probably that.

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Sooo stupid question, why do I see a slew of top Rogues using Lustrous Golden Plumage as a trinket?

civic palm Apr 18, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Mine do, but if it's "random" I dunno, doubt it's random > _>

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 AM

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I though Vers was a our worse stat

civic palm Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Is it?

meager nebula Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 AM

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usually because its the best trinket they have

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 AM

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It's odd because I though the same, but I see it on almost every Rogue in the top 200 on every boss

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 AM

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because it lines up perfectly with vendetta and with 3x NP traits you pop off

lost horizon Apr 18, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Also no position requirements

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Unlike GCB

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 2:31 AM

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yeah i hate GCB

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 2:31 AM

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I loved it at first, then I tried to use it.... immediately hated it

lost horizon Apr 18, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Meh

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I still like GCB

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Just tough sometimes to get good value

languid ore Apr 18, 2019, 2:33 AM

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its not bad

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lines up nice.

lost horizon Apr 18, 2019, 2:34 AM

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Lines up perfectly, but bit riskier

languid ore Apr 18, 2019, 2:34 AM

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oh, meant plumage

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i dont like gcb

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some fights i have to move out and there goes the proc

fringe phoenix Apr 18, 2019, 2:36 AM

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yeah its a liability really during prog

cobalt gyro Apr 18, 2019, 2:36 AM

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because it lines up nicely with vendetta

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and gcb makes your tanks brains melt

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so they run away

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and you get 1 second out of 10

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on avg

ornate gazelle Apr 18, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Does soaking the hands of frost on jaina give stacks?

round harbor Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 AM

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sooo

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one night of jaina prog and i took 8.6m dmg from the new trinket

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https://gyazo.com/384e5aee314f846f7dd1013c272765c2

Gyazo

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lol

rancid elbow Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Guys, how is assa in pve? raids and m+

lost mist Apr 18, 2019, 3:10 AM

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nice

📎 unknown.png

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45k crits with DD and 30k with NP

round harbor Apr 18, 2019, 3:17 AM

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@rancid elbow its good

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in both

rancid elbow Apr 18, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Is it easy to multi dot and such?

nimble tartan Apr 18, 2019, 3:17 AM

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How many pulls was that rawr

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Can u show me 1 long pull papi

cobalt pelican Apr 18, 2019, 3:18 AM

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cancelauraing at 10s?

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i'll probably just leave it up full duration in p1 and maybe p2 depending on the timing and see what happens

round harbor Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 AM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qpFL3K7akrHhPvDN#fight=20

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thats our longest pull

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~160k hp per vendetta

fierce knoll Apr 18, 2019, 3:22 AM

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does cloak work on the pools in uu'nat?

lost mist Apr 18, 2019, 3:47 AM

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u shouldnt soak those pools because they heal the boss

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but idk if the boss heals if u soak those pools with cloak

lost sentinel Apr 18, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I got gorak tul's shoulders... 3xnp, 2xdd, 1ss... I am ready for mastery trinket

round harbor Apr 18, 2019, 4:33 AM

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not even 3dd 3np LOL

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jk ss is nice i just hate iot

round harbor Apr 18, 2019, 4:55 AM

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wait nvm

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dropping a dd for a ss is massive loss lol

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https://gyazo.com/61bba47f59147ee410e5647a2dd9afe2

Gyazo

civic palm Apr 18, 2019, 4:57 AM

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yes

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lol

shadow zealot Apr 18, 2019, 5:21 AM

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are you guys using tb after using vanish?

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or rupture

steep obsidian Apr 18, 2019, 5:25 AM

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why whould you ever vanish rupture with ma?

lost horizon Apr 18, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Probably assumed the Crit snapshot, which to clarify: it doesn't

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Is there a ttk dd shoulder

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Also has anyone tried nightstalker on ptr with the new things

tawdry rune Apr 18, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Can someone help me? I'm trying to find the icon that assassination rogues have for their spec icon

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📎 Screenshot_20190417-224308_Chrome.jpg

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This one but like higher quality

solid nova Apr 18, 2019, 5:43 AM

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sin

tawdry rune Apr 18, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Well I meant in like photo form

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Like the screen shot above

cobalt gyro Apr 18, 2019, 5:44 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/hY86Rb6.png

Imgur

tawdry rune Apr 18, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Awesome tysm both of you

wooden crown Apr 18, 2019, 6:00 AM

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its not poison, its green apple marmalade sin

narrow quail Apr 18, 2019, 6:10 AM

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So guys r new pants bad?

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:18 AM

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they are ok but low ilvl

narrow quail Apr 18, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Tbh i was disappointed with all rogue loot in Crucible, are there any worthy item?

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Just believe that stats>weird effects

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:29 AM

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trinket is rly good

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https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/trinkets/1t-t23-assassination

Hero Damage

Class theorycrafting community, latest simulation results and resources -based on SimulationCraft- for World of Warcraft.

narrow quail Apr 18, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Oh wow

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Gotta get it.

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Ty for info!

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:31 AM

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its not that hard on heroic tbh

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shouldn't be too hard to get it with pug

bronze kelp Apr 18, 2019, 6:36 AM

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did it yesterday with a 414ilvl group ^^ took long to explain and short to kill ^^

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:37 AM

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yeah did it in 6 pulls since 1 tank wasnt on voice

real bay Apr 18, 2019, 6:49 AM

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can't wait to wipe 30 times with guild

grizzled jay Apr 18, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Sounds familiar.

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We one shot normal and almost 1 shot unnat HC but had too many socials and casuals. We go today with our mythic team for a fast clear.

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:52 AM

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just letting like 5 adds stack up on 1 tank seemed to work decently

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doesnt work in mythic tho

grizzled jay Apr 18, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Yeah we debated that. We started by killing every single one but figured stacking is in order.

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:53 AM

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after we tried stacking we did it in 2 pulls

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first was to 5%

grizzled jay Apr 18, 2019, 6:54 AM

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We'll try 4-5 stacking today for a fast kill today to get it over with. That mastery trinket is spicy

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:56 AM

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gonna be a fun fight on mythic

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36k raid wide dmg per second

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when u use crown

grizzled jay Apr 18, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Rip healers

swift timber Apr 18, 2019, 6:58 AM

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almost everything is cloakable tho

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feelsgood

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u can shadowstep over the laser beams

bronze kelp Apr 18, 2019, 7:02 AM

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or just eat them and let the heal sweat ^^

safe sluice Apr 18, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Is there a point in using leeching poison when you play with the new mastery trinket?

uneven needle Apr 18, 2019, 7:49 AM

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When to use exsang in m+? Only with 3SS? For me it sims lower than TB, but ive heard TB requires some babysitting on aoe

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Also, dratnos said in his guide to use fok on 2+targets with eb, this still true?

fathom marsh Apr 18, 2019, 8:08 AM

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How do you guys think about the Vision of Perfection for HoA?

rigid mango Apr 18, 2019, 8:26 AM

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@uneven needle yes, fok on 2+ targets with eb it's worth it, and exsang is only worth now with 3 SS iirc, esp if you're not nelf. Tb is generally better and gives a good amount of boss damage etc

little forge Apr 18, 2019, 8:30 AM

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Does both SS and subterfuge work from shadow meld?

distant lava Apr 18, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Not sub

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But in dungeons you can meld

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Then stealth

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And tada

solid nova Apr 18, 2019, 8:38 AM

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You'll get a buffed garrotte but not subt

little forge Apr 18, 2019, 8:54 AM

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I didn’t even think of that restealth after meld. Brb reeolling an elf 😃

honest needle Apr 18, 2019, 10:00 AM

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hey can some 1 help me. is there a way to save all my weakauras and transfer them to another wow account

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without having to download and find each 1 over and over

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I been trying to figure it out

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but have no clue how just copying over the addon itself doesnt workj

olive night Apr 18, 2019, 10:04 AM

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@honest needle
question is probably better for the #wow-general channel.
but, you have to copy the WTF folder, which stores the configuration of your addons.

short locust Apr 18, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Hello! I wonder, when the Void stone on Uu'nat encounter stone will be used and healing will be disabled for both adds and boss, during that time is it possible to clear pools in CoS without healing him?

bronze kelp Apr 18, 2019, 10:10 AM

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that question would be better placed in #wow-general

willow nymph Apr 18, 2019, 11:09 AM

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anyone with the trinket having some results with it?

lusty narwhal Apr 18, 2019, 11:13 AM

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New crucible trinket 700 dps increase, WoWprog sim says its a 500dps loss. Sick system they've got lol

vestal wren Apr 18, 2019, 11:21 AM

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i am unsure who cares about wowprogress sims

solid nova Apr 18, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Nobody

lusty narwhal Apr 18, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Of course but just dumb lol

spice surge Apr 18, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Wowprogress typically uses older versions of simc and also does 7½ minute sims instead of the standard 5 min ones

vestal wren Apr 18, 2019, 11:30 AM

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7 1/2 O.o

lusty narwhal Apr 18, 2019, 11:30 AM

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wat

spice surge Apr 18, 2019, 11:30 AM

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combat time: 450s if you hover over it

lusty narwhal Apr 18, 2019, 11:48 AM

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What even

real bay Apr 18, 2019, 12:02 PM

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sounds like noxxic

lusty narwhal Apr 18, 2019, 12:44 PM

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havent heard about that trash for a while

spice surge Apr 18, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Wdym, dont your stat weights look like the one noxxic recommends?

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Agility [7.57] > Haste [6.07] > Crit [4.57] > Mastery [3.07] > Versatility [1.57]

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Ooofff thats outdated

little forge Apr 18, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Not just outdated, has Vers ever been worth 1/5 of agi?

warm parcel Apr 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Not in the recent millenia

sullen pagoda Apr 18, 2019, 1:25 PM

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wait noxxic actually has recommended stat weights yikes

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:02 PM

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27k club with shit chest FeelsWeirdMan https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hjNgpz9Xiuw4MCASD1rJVJ

Raidbots

Top Gear - Malsam - 27,049 DPS - Raidbots

royal lantern Apr 18, 2019, 2:24 PM

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? the chest is quite good, not perfect, but its good, and the rest of your gear is REALLY good

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shitton of sockets, good trinkets on a high lvl, wath more do you want?(except MOAR SOCKETS)

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:27 PM

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dd np chest, hopeful i get it off mekka this week

lost sentinel Apr 18, 2019, 2:29 PM

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@round harbor dropping a DD for SS has never been a large loss for me, I'll be doing some sims again for sure esp. if I get the trinket

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:29 PM

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thats just my epeen sim any, i prefer playing with 1 ss

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 PM

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is there a good rogue that can help me find out wtf i'm doing wrong. through logs?

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 PM

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venmo knows

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:30 PM

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link

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 2:31 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/27565279#zone=21

modest jasper Apr 18, 2019, 2:32 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r1BMuKC5SQJFvDuwusTN3F

bigger epeen sim btw Malsam 😉

Raidbots

Top Gear - Malsam - 27,101 DPS - Raidbots

mighty elm Apr 18, 2019, 2:32 PM

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@fiery flower

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 2:32 PM

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it might have to do with pooling + toxic blade use probably as i don't know what is the most optimal in each situation

pale spade Apr 18, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Does the bug still exist where if you use a non-SS buffed garrote, it will override (reduce) the damage all SS buffed garrotes on other targets?

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:43 PM

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no

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just dont overwrite a buffed garrote and you're fine

pale spade Apr 18, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Awesome, thank you.

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Yup, all good. I took a break and didn’t know if it was still occurring.

solid nova Apr 18, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Nah was fixed on October 3rd 2018

distant lava Apr 18, 2019, 2:49 PM

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My kind of break

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:52 PM

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@scenic shale hmm the logs look alright, the only log that looks really weird to me is you rasta one, way too many poison knife casts. unless your gonna cap energy, it's not worth using, also for the opener on the fight you held cd's for a really long time.

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also on a couple of other fights you weren't using arcane torrent much, it's really good when your in a pooling stage

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ignore grong/jfm, you'll never get giga parses without playing ss+subterfuge

blazing tulip Apr 18, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Can anyone confirm if raidbots is simming the leg proc from crucible correctly?
Got a 415 proc'd yesteday, wanted to know if it is really worth changing a 420 crit haste one.

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@cosmic pier rasta was horrible i starter the fight with no poisons and noticed later, also didnt get full duration on any vendettas

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@cosmic pier i guess my logs are alright, but i want to be better than "alright". there is almost no reason that i dont have orange logs on each fight as geared as i am right now. I do realize i am making some pooling mistakes, but i was wondering if there was something else holding me back

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I really couldnt find a guide that gives good instructions for pooling and how to best effectively use cooldowns, most guides are for players learning the class i guess

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I will find your mistake.

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please hold

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 2:57 PM

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❤

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 2:58 PM

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god you have a ton of melee

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 2:58 PM

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WoW analyzer worth using on your logs?

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Just started using it recently

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...... tbh I just found out it existed 😔

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 2:59 PM

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wow analyser is good for egregious mistakes, but doesn't really help find the smaller stuff like pooling

solid nova Apr 18, 2019, 2:59 PM

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It doesnt properly support sin

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Or any rogue spec iirc

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/lets-pump-the-breaks-gif-11355830

Tenor

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wait. mythic jaina kills and asking for parse help.

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I need to do work.

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afk

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your doing fine 👌

solid nova Apr 18, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Hasnt done for a while. Iirc they were looking for people to help make changes but 🤷🏼

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 3:00 PM

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lol @lone junco imagine killing jaina with 0 orange logs 😄

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:01 PM

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logs aren't everything in mythic man. if your guild is happy with your damage and you're doing mechanics, just keep doing what you're doing

distant lava Apr 18, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Orange logs are a meme tbh

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As long as you constantly pull purple you are good in my book

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:02 PM

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like im one of the top 3 players in my guild (8/9) and these are my logs. absolute clown fiesta https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/34200079?zone=21&mode=detailed#

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:02 PM

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@distant lava on many encounters your logs are very dependant on guild

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and tactic

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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yeah not using a speed strat can hurt you

distant lava Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Yeah exactly

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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or not padding

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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e.g. in opulence, if you are using sacrifice with coin shower strat

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if u dont get one of first 3coin showers gg

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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i definitely understand that, i am not a damage "whore" by any means, i suggested that i go down for rasta when staying up is definately the best option.
however i always want to improve, not having a single orange log means im doing something wrong. i am not aiming to be the best rogue out there but if i am doing a mistake i would like to fix it. and i know for sure i am making mistakes

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:03 PM

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5 liquid golds hmmm

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just play 2 ss on grong/jfm lmao easy oranges

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lust after first strikes

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I'm trash at rogue currently and embarrassed to even show my logs in here lol. The only thing keeping my afloat is that I'm always top DPS in any raid I'm in, lucky I guess.

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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@scenic shale Im just kidding tbh. But I flipped through a few, and all were pretty decent. just dont have time to scour someone that doesnt really need help

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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not being an OP ranged caster PepeHands

haughty lily Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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i mean just do opener, maintain bleeds, spam envenom

distant lava Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Man never bee ashamed of a log, who cares if youre doing bad atm

haughty lily Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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not much to be good at sin

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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@cosmic pier i'll show you a clown fiesta :^) https://i.imgur.com/iQ2htYg.png

Imgur

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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my druid at 406 sims higher than my rogue lmao

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98 mekka lmao, nice rng

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pog

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:05 PM

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someone ninja'd my prepot.

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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ripppp

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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@distant lava before I took a break from WoW I posted logs in here and like 5 people did nothing but call me restarted.

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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also it was the progress kill :^)

frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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That was like 9 months ago tho

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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probs 3/9 window lickers

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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📎 unknown.png

distant lava Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Then they are bad people what do you want me to tell you

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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like this vanish

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ive never seen tb as the 3rd

haughty lily Apr 18, 2019, 3:06 PM

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yeah knock that off

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:07 PM

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prob just lined up that way, but lowers your peak.

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:07 PM

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still shouldn't use it though even if it lines up that way

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you can actually just move the vanish to after the mutilate

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:07 PM

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and while this is the sim avg high. its not parse high

📎 unknown.png

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:07 PM

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or after the tb

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:08 PM

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so when we talk about best apl, vs peak rng.

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:08 PM

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parse high is vendetta mutilate tb (pray for 5 cp here), vanish envenom muti (pray for 4 cp here) env

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:08 PM

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tb vanish env mut env is the peak high. but then you fucking suck if you fail crits.

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right

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:08 PM

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ehh, you don't even suck that much

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well

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okay the most suck version

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is if you vend and muti and you get 2 cp

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then you tb and have 3

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:09 PM

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tbh mut env is def a good avg

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:09 PM

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then you suck

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:09 PM

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just put another mut before vanish then

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if u only have 3cp

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:09 PM

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i do

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but still suck

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:09 PM

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like this one

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bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:10 PM

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that extra muti feels like enough energy to keep the lights on in my house for the next decade

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:10 PM

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and honestly , get like 6 more sockets.

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frigid kestrel Apr 18, 2019, 3:11 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/37642580?mode=detailed&zone=22#boss=2269&difficulty=3

real bay Apr 18, 2019, 3:11 PM

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just get more sockets ionsadhours

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:11 PM

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like 6-8 would be good

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9 more sockets would be ideal

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 3:11 PM

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lol

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:11 PM

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if you want to compare with top orange parses.

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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beyond that you're gonna have to ask @round harbor for advice

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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just get more sockets

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my new macro solution

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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just get more sockets 4Head

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lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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all you can do is try to beat your sim avg (27k ?

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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man lemme find my zul set

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holy fuck that was stacked

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I had 9 in uldir. was neat.

real bay Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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wtb mythic raid pieces have some sockets baseline

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can't be that hard blizz

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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yeah

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also higher base ilvl

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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thank you @lone junco for the quick look

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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really though.

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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and give free choice of stat combination

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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agreed @cosmic pier https://i.imgur.com/Oib9gsu.png

Imgur

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:13 PM

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if you want to parse you gonna have to 1ss cheese the vanish ggg

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cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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only 8 sockets for my zull 99 smh

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bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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i've seen nice logs for ma on grong

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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for the rest of the rotation though, how much energy should u have before toxic blades?

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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but they also lit the fk up out of the bosss

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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nice trinkets lul @cosmic pier

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:15 PM

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i had 8th zul log in world when i killed

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my acutal best acheive this expac

tropic ocean Apr 18, 2019, 3:15 PM

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imagine if u had good trinkets

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:15 PM

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@lone junco there's actually a mistake in there

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that's ggrg not ggg

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:16 PM

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@scenic shale tbh that wonky vanish with TB at the end could have been a few points. remember you can delay vendetta/vanish long enough to not clip another cast. So if it doesnt fit in the rotation that exact second, you can adjust.

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@bleak spoke he coulda been rank 1. rip

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only 31k dps. coulda been 31.1

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BY THE WAY. R i p my rogue. Im prob stuck hpal for another tier.

scenic shale Apr 18, 2019, 3:17 PM

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imagine not playing warlock in 2019

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or 2018

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or 2017

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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PepeHands @lone junco another brother lost

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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you mean SP

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I know right.

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trying to stay active with M+, but my ret is gonna dumpster him soon.

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Hekili smashing sucks though.

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:18 PM

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ooft ret with some of those new essences could be sick in m+

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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So on our jaina kill, melee were to kill the icewall. my hpal came in at 30k dps.

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🍆

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:19 PM

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if wings has the same uptime as vendetta with the new essences then they'd actually roll in m+

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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yeah.

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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is that damage done to wall

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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yeah

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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you're an hpal

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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big pink

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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right

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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yeah.

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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that is obscene

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:20 PM

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it is.

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glimmer build

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like 7 offensive shocks in 9 gcd

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they crit for like 80k sometimes

cosmic pier Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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glimmer build is dumb, actually busted

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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i wonder how hard you could cheese in shrine if the tank could hold threat

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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without it, id jump the fuck out the window

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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on volzith i mean

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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last boss?

bleak spoke Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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yeh

lone junco Apr 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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yeah., we hold lust. 60k dps.

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