even if u get first, plan where you want to go (front or back of the room)
#assassination
static sky
Ok, and is there a logic behind who gets it? We did 20 pills last week and I got it in 16 of those pills, sometimes 2-3 times per a pull. Am I doing something wrong to get it so often?
brave gyro
nope, its random
sometimes u get all of them, sometimes you get none of them
just save sprint / ss for those as well
so you sprint out to drop it
static sky
Ok, and on the first set of donuts, those aren’t random right?
brave gyro
and if u dont have cloak, drop it in the donuts' safe zone, as far away from the rest as possible
What do you mean?
all deceits are random
static sky
When you first pull the boss, the pattern of the donuts
static sky
Ok but during one of them there is no safe zone except with everyone else?
I think one of them covers the entire room I mean except the one circle
brave gyro
its still circle, you just move away from where the rest are (usually towards the front of the room, as most play in the back of it)
static sky
Ok so assuming I get deceit first circle, I stay in te safe zone as long as possible towards one side of te room
Then sprint last second after final donut
Assuming I don’t have cloak
celest chasm
Hey guys, should i ditch sharpened blades to get shrouded suffocation? or is the dmg potential from blades too big?
tidal jetty
unless there is some wild ilvl disparity, yes you should 😃
dusty jasper
The bug the method guy talks about in the method assassination rogue guide (4th garrote used while having the shrouded trait) still exist?
tidal jetty
nope
spice surge
Nope @dusty jasper
crisp steppe
no
dusty jasper
I need one more person to say no
celest chasm
its both 370
dusty jasper
For it to be true
crisp steppe
"no" -winston churchill
dusty jasper
Wonderful. Thanks all.
celest chasm
Also ditch archive of titans for 2nd shroud?
brave gyro
@dusty jasper Good news. No. The bug is fixed
tidal jetty
thats more finnicky, but you want atleast one archive or lazer inside Uldir
crisp steppe
make sure you select the right build. default is toxic blade, exsg= exsanguinate
final stone
4 boss 1min sim best way to sim what to use for m+ still
crisp steppe
for traits I just use the list from herodamage
rest is feelycraft
I have roughly equal haste/crit/mastery
tidal jetty
simming your own char is the best choice tho
spice surge
Why use feelycraft when there is highly advanced simulation tools to give you precise answers?
final stone
I use ssx2 and I have a blightborne
spice surge
Well if you use proper condition you get decent sims, but i thought you were still refering to the other guy about raids, mb
tidal jetty
^
dusty jasper
I am noticing with this spec / class you guys sim with a website not raidbots. Why is that?
crisp steppe
yeah for raids I do sim my own character. the combinations can be deceiving at times
most people use raidbots/simcraft for simming raids
theres lists for easy reference. they are not going to be most accurate
final stone
But one of my ss is 345 wonder if I use my 385 dd instead of 345 ss for m+
brave gyro
@dusty jasper Elaborate please
onyx rock
@dusty jasper Raidbots is the Website we using
crisp steppe
@final stone the list on herodamage says double dose but its gonna depend on the key ur doing
@final stone if the packs are small say on average 3 mobs then you're likely to mutilate a lot
but shrouded suffocation is also really powerful if the key is low where they die in 1 garrote
dusty jasper
Ohhh okay. Gotcha. Some reason I thought hero damage was the website you guys were using to sim. Never used that website and assumed it was a sim website. All makes sense now lol.
final stone
@crisp steppeyeah I'm looking at it now. I think I'll run with my 385 and keep ss x 1
celest chasm
use raidbots to sim
final stone
It will play well with 14 and higher
crisp steppe
yeah its a lot of stamina too
celest chasm
but traits i use bloodmallet because herodmg feels too cluttered and not organized
crisp steppe
I havent looked at bloodmallet in a while but they didn't show the spec they are using for the sim
crisp steppe
and they didn't have option for toxicblade/exsanguinate
spice surge
Nor do bloodmallet have any variation with talents, so SS is listed as the worst trait
final stone
Also this week coming up is going to be slow so I'll def swap yo that 385 over my 345
spice surge
Because it runs tb/ma
crisp steppe
yeah it runs the default simc shit yeah?
@final stone also on short burst fights shrouded suffocation is gonna be really strong.
@final stone fortified n shit
brave gyro
Anyone else crying where their 370 Dice sims 0.2% lower than Darkmoon card? 😄
crisp steppe
since you exsanguinate it and then vanish you spend most of the fight with empowered garrotes
brave gyro
I'm kinda sick of Darkmoon card trinket is what im getting at
spice surge
And also, herodamage is just old ravenholdt rebranded, so the main guys running it are rogues from this discord
Just get a higher dice 4Head
final stone
@crisp steppeyeah if I run low keys I'll run double ss other wise I think I'm going to run ss/dd/blightborne until I get at least a 370 ss shoulders
brave gyro
shit, didn't thought of that. Tanks @spice surge 😄
crisp steppe
hope I get a nice blightborne sometime
can use for my other specs too then 😃 and its sick
final stone
I have a 375 helm that I use now it's pretty nice
brave gyro
I get BiS for enchanting almost every week 😎
final stone
385 ss
brave gyro
Those sweet crystals
tropic rover
At around 375 ilvl, what overall dps should we be in M+, around +10?
crisp steppe
we really can't tell
crisp steppe
do you pull big etc
glad ferry
On a boss on a patchwerktyranical encounter I'd say around 16-20k
if your group is decent
brave gyro
He was asking overall @glad ferry 😛
tropic rover
Yikes, I'm fucking something up then.
brave gyro
Yeap, that's why i said 14-18 is a good average 😄
tropic rover
Can I log m+ runs?
brave gyro
@tropic rover don't sweat it too much tho. It depends a lot on how you pull, if you wipe, etc. Also, it mostly counts in premade groups imo. In pugs my dps goes down because of how things are pulled
spice surge
Also ilvl is an awful indication of damage. 365 with good stats, good traits and socket can do more damage than 375 with bad ones
tropic rover
@brave gyro I gotcha, that makes sense.
brave gyro
I agree @spice surge ilvl is the bane of pugs atm
even back in legion, i would be like 740 bis, and then some random guy with 755 is shocked i outdps him 😄
tidal jetty
740 was like mythic hfc tho
brave gyro
ah maybe 800+ already forgot what the ilvls were haha 😄
lusty surge
i dont see any information on tb vs exsang in the pins
is there somewhere i can go to read about it?
spice surge
You use what sims the highest
And exsang for dungeons (as you should be using shrouded traits which synergizes with exsang)
brave gyro
Or advice i got from Method's rogue: "You whatever the fuck you want. It doesn't matter"
Haha, yeah. I stopped carrying about it. I'll push keys with premade, not pugs. @celest chasm
primal gazelle
I think raiderio score are pretty reliable
It’s a resume for all the dungeons you’ve done
noble ingot
i think everyone pretty much quit bfa
i just log in hit one pug a week dont really care as long as its higher than 8 and pop 3 raid bosses and log off
primal gazelle
How would I can expect you to reliable run thru +15 with me if the highest you’ve done is a 10?
spice surge
The only problem i see with it is that it doesnt register low-level runs on highly populated servers
brave gyro
i mean, i get declined for a +6 because i have 913 rio score instead of 1k 🤔
So i kinda stopped pushing about a month ago. Haven't moved since then
spice surge
But in general its good
brave gyro
Also, I get nothing atm from anything besides Mythic raids. And I am not willing to spend hours grinding for a potential titanforge. But that's just me 🤷
lusty surge
although since i play on a low pop server
i get a little extra priority in pugs on mondays
lusty surge
which is nice for me 😛
languid olive
reliably running a 10 even IF you haven't done it before is such a smaller feat then a 15.
noble ingot
i was 4400 legion not the greatest but i know the bfa dungeons and i dont even have a char over 1100 cuz of how lazy i am to even do m+ in this expac, just boring overall.
but i could prob hit any of the dungeons 13+ without any issues on my rogue or dh
just my 2c
languid olive
It's the same thing as it used to be with Gearscore. Sure, it has got it's merits, but it's also widely overused to weed out people that would probably have been fine in a dungeon anyway.
celest chasm
having a hard time getting in anything other then +4 because of my 318 score. I dont have time to run mythic plus fulltimes
lusty surge
infested isnt that bad
lusty surge
as long as you have players that are proactively CCing and tank that knows how to pull around it
primal gazelle
People don’t want “fine” they prefer a smooth run and 1 shots. That’s why you see some grps requiring 370+aotc for heroics
noble ingot
i played w my push buddies from legion a few times, they still going hard, and even w proper pulls the keys feel so much slower than they did in legion
onyx hazel
!azerite
prisma monolithBOT
Do my azerite traits stack?
The damage part of azerite Stacks.
Other components can be assumed to stack however with some exceptions and limitations.
You can check https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/azerite-stacks/1t-t22-assassination for estimations.
primal gazelle
Because legion was just an aoe fest
noble ingot
fun fest*
languid olive
I get that, but isn't it a kind of shame that some people have gotten to the point that they can't tolerate 1 wipe?
primal gazelle
Nothing really to interrupt
spice surge
I mean when i pug hcs i look for group with either 380 or 375 requirements, i just want big blast and 100% no wipes
lusty surge
1 wipe can cook a key
primal gazelle
Now you actually have to pay attention to mechanics
lusty surge
depending on your speed
noble ingot
plenty of interrupts, its not like these mobs are tough to interrupt once you learn whats necessary and what isnt
go into maw w/o interrupt prio
lel
brave gyro
@noble ingot I don't feel any incentive to run higher M+ this expansion. AP is shit, items are too low ilvl. 🤷
brave gyro
But I also don't like it to feel like a waste of time
noble ingot
and my argument is that not only is it not worthwhile, but they slowed the game down drastically making it unfun
primal gazelle
More like a bonus objective
languid olive
ikr
ionic charm
So run some 10 carries and make easy gold?
latent field
How important is it to keep track of elaborate planning?
noble ingot
meh
primal gazelle
@languid olive not at all. It’s a shame that you even have ONE wipe at this point because the raid has been out for 2 months
primal gazelle
oh
languid olive
Raids we don't wipe :p
spice surge
Extremely minor @latent field
primal gazelle
one wipe will most likely ruin a 15+ key
brave gyro
we wipe raids 
ionic charm
@latent field it’s more important at different times. The only times where it should really be on your mind is when you are trying to clip envenoms with the buff during TB, or maintaining 100% uptime on EP while exsanguinate dots are applied
languid olive
I just dislike the 10 runs that get over-achievers checking all scores. 10 is perfectly doable :p
primal gazelle
I’m 1500 io and I personally leave a Grp if I see that they are underscored for the key that they’re trying to do
ionic charm
Why wouldn’t you check scores for a 10? If you’re a good player, why wouldn’t you take 3s out of your time to read the score on their tooltip? Saves you so much of a hassle
celest chasm
I normally proactively kick almost everything (been runs where i double the interrupts of my teammates combined), outperform in dps. Though i cant be arsed to keep running "low" keys to only get upgrades through titanforging
languid olive
Well I guess people playing more m+ might also be more prone to find the hassle then me.
brave gyro
maybe we should move the discussion to #wow-general before mods Backstab us
languid olive
Sure
celest chasm
(kick as in interrupt)
primal gazelle
i did a +15 shrine key with a bunch of 1200s last night, i told them a dps MUST take the debuff on the last boss otherwise we wouldnt kill it in time. That's literally the only way to kill it on a +15 tyrannical week, but the dps player refused to do it
this is what happened after
languid olive
😦
primal gazelle
any +1500 player would volunteer to take the buff because they know its the only way
its stuff like that, that makes io useful
languid olive
Ya sure. Though I would expect anyone with a brain to listen to tips when given :p
But I see your point
celest chasm
io shows that ppl already have run an instance before, but if they exploit the system (think of beefing scores through low-populated servers, buying runs) the high score doesn't guarantee that players have a brain
primal gazelle
it sure doesnt
but low io scores guarantee that players definitely dont have a brain 😛
celest chasm
or that ppl dont run mythic plus dungeons that much
rigid sonnet
where can I read up on how exsanguinate works and how haste effects it?
primal gazelle
aka dont have a brain in M+
spice surge
@rigid sonnet Works like haste does with every dot, with the exception that it "snapshots" your haste the moment you use the ability. (so the tick-rate is constant through the entire thing rather than fluctuating if your stats change)
rigid sonnet
and how much is haste worth for exsanguinate? is it worth waiting for 15 seconds with exsang off cd to make sure I get trinket in there
arctic ravine
is it possible to evis cheese shrine boss with the adds in last phase as long as tank kites?
rigid sonnet
even tho it will make me lose out on a full normal exsanguinate before cdäs are back up
arctic ravine
Sorry, went Sub last night for Zul, have evis on the brain, this is assassination channel sorry, lol
spice surge
But yes @arctic ravine
arctic ravine
tyty
rigid sonnet
ait, checks out. tyvm for answers
celest chasm
@primal gazelle I can agree to that to a certain level. I atleast feel like an exception to that rule though 😃
lone junco
First part of io score is doing all the zones. Right?
We seem to do the same zones over and over.
latent field
If I have ~15 seconds on my bleeds left and exsanguinate comes off cooldown do I wait to refresh my bleeds or do I hit exsanguinate? Or should I refresh my bleeds early (before the pandemic window)?
karmic ingot
I usually refresh them early to maximize the value of exsanguinate. You’re trading a few GCDs, energy, and combo points for a few more ticks of super bleeds. Hard to say for sure if it’s worth it.
dense quest
@lone junco you get score from all zones but the most efficient way to do all zones and get a score for all zone instead of 0 for some zone which brings down your average
karmic ingot
Noobe’s point is that people have a tendency to run, for example, Freehold and Atal’Dazar repeatedly and never touch Shrine of the Storm or Temple of Sethralis keys. If you want to get your raider.io score up , make sure you have scores for all dungeons.
latent locust
i assume with sharpened blades trait u put that spell into rotation at max stacks ?
tropic rover
When dealing with trash in M+, you don
don't need to 4-5CP Rupture all the mobs do you?
primal gazelle
depends on long you expect them to live
latent locust
maybe i should just take thunderous blast instead 😄
primal gazelle
would you guys queue for this dungeon with this dudes io score? 😛
tropic pike
yes?
primal gazelle
he wants to do a 15 ML and his highest done is a 9...
esp as a tank, instant deplete key imo
ionic charm
@latent locust you plan to use at 29 stacks, because you autoattack in pairs and you don’t want to waste a stack. In an ideal situation, you have planned your rotation in a way that you have elaborate planning up when you cast it. This usually amounts to delaying a finisher 2-5 seconds in order for stacks to accumulate (outside of TB or Exsang active times ofc)
If you want to join a 15 with an unknown entity, more power to you. But you could just do a 13 with a competent group and get a better score anyways. (Not related to sharpened blades message)
worldly ledge
I know its a bit late to ask, but for M+ with these affixes which talent comps are better? Exa/CT or Tb / PB. The bosses hit harder so they have to die faster. What do you think about that?
ionic charm
PB is like 2-3% single target damage, it’s not worth keeping in most situations. CT usage generally depends more on the dungeons than the affixes, how big the pulls are.
worldly ledge
@ionic charm thank you!
tropic rover
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
latent locust
wait so i m a noob playing m+ without CT? 😄
royal lantern
drifting elbow
running without CT in most dungeons 
it was pretty awful when i accidentally had PB talent on instead of CT for FH, lost quite a lot of dmg on overall
hollow cloud
who cares about overall damage when u can just kill stuff
drifting elbow
but u kill better with CT 
brave gyro
Who cares about talents when you don't get invited
drifting elbow
karmic ingot
PB is fine in dungeons. It’s low on overall damage, but you’ll be using more ruptures and envenom on trash. Plus CT is a dead talent on most bosses. The overall damage difference isn’t as big as people make it out to be. Especially on lower keys.
snow ridge
if anyone has 375 zul shoulders can you please post your raidbots, I want to sim it and need the id to paste into mine. just want to see how much of an upgrade it will be
need it to use my 390 DD and 390 SS
midnight reef
Anyone mind telling me what talents and honor talents to run on assassin when lvling from 110-120 plz?
whatever is easiest to play with plz and ty!
karmic ingot
“If”
midnight reef
Huh?
midnight reef
What is?
midnight reef
Ive no idea what yall are talking about
i just want an easy simple talent and honor talent build for lvling from 110-120
karmic ingot
That’s why discord lets you scroll up for context.
solid nova
He's answering a previous question.
strange python
what
karmic ingot
For leveling, I wouldn’t recommend assassination, but if you’re gonna do it anyway, the standard max level builds are fine.
tidal jetty
if you have access to legion legendaries, sub with shoulders is a beast for leveling
karmic ingot
For PvP talents, take stuff that is a passive damage increase.
midnight reef
So i shouldnt lvl as assassin?
karmic ingot
Sub with shoulders is like 2-3 GCDs per kill. It’s insane.
spice surge
You can do whatever you want
karmic ingot
Oh, take marked for death too for whichever spec you choose.
midnight reef
Ill give yall my talent build right now
spice surge
Who cares if it takes 2 seconds longer per mob, what matters is how much you enjoy it
drifting elbow
i destroyed with FoK with leggos when assassin leveling
strange python
thats a lot of time
drifting elbow
ebon garden
3 SS for dungeons, 1 385 and 2 370 
midnight reef
MP Subterfuge,MFD,Elusiveness,internal bleeding,toxic blade, poison bomb
thats what im rolling with regular talents
now honor
karmic ingot
Were you running hidden blades or something @drifting elbow?
midnight reef
System shock deadly brew smoke bomb
midnight reef
but im completely unsure if any of those talents are right
havent played my rogue in a bit
drifting elbow
yeah, i just stacked FoK talents
karmic ingot
Don’t bother with elusiveness. Just pick up leeching poison.
Nice. I could totally see that being pretty OP.
keen spruce
leeching poison in what?
strange python
levelling
karmic ingot
Shoulders, cloak, night stalker, hidden blade, PvP thing, Azerite traits. Lots of stuff you can stack to make FoK OP before 116.
midnight reef
I have shoulders thats it
midnight reef
Cant afford any other right now sadly
tropic rover
any reccomendations for a unit frame addon?
midnight reef
Ok maybe ill lvl as outlaw
D:
lol
Assassin so much to keep up with
especially with so many adds on you
ebon garden
are blizzard removing any rogue traits like they are removing traits from other classes?
azerite traits i mean
spice surge
What class are getting traits removed? Fairly certain none are, they're just getting changed
https://ptr.wowhead.com/rogue-changes-tides-of-vengeance
Heres all the rogue changes thats been on the ptr's atleast
ebon garden
warlock and dh are getting some traits removed apparently
its not getting put on notes
shell zealot
Oopss
obtuse ruin
is shroud actually getting a buff? Pog
strange python
not by a lot
obtuse ruin
yeah but its already our bis so
obtuse ruin
yee mainly m+
spice surge
Its not getting buffed, its just the tooltip getting updated
obtuse ruin
oh makes sense
spice surge
Do you really think they would buff SS by like 50% after nerfing it?
obtuse ruin
honestly I dont expect anything from blizzard anymore
obtuse ruin
the new Nothing Personal trait looks good for pvp
strange python
Yeah its going to scale with versatility
gloomy ginkgo
is the shrouded mantle defensive trait any good? or should I go for resounding protection? I primarily do M+
spice surge
Its just getting its tooltip updated, it already scales with versa and your AP
But the tooltip is just a static number based on ilvl currently
opaque grotto
Is nothing personal that trait that makes vendetta put a dot on your target?
Ez legion copy + paste
ionic charm
I’m not sure why blizzard thought “from the shadows” was the legion ability we wanted
summer aurora
is the SS changes a buff to its dmg ? since it base is the same but with new maths to add vers aswell ?
pliant nest
i dont think its a change at all, just tooltip clarification
safe matrix
^
wise whale
ghuun
tardy anchor
Guys, what would you reccomend for PVP talents for aasa? Worldpvp / arena 2v2
I have System shock, Creeping venom, Deadly brew and I am considering switching Deadly for Smoke bomb. Not sure, need your opinions, thank you! 😃
safe matrix
sorry, I just got up and am a bit scatterbrained. But yes its just a tooltip clarification 😄
steady hollow
hey, is the atal dazar talisman any good for rogues? got a socket in it too
hearty grail
Hey hey, i was wondering if i could get Some help on my logs/parses. Guild is @ fetid right now so i could use better parses to get unbenched ‘:D thx in advance
<— Maagd
solid nova
Why do you tripple mutilate so much?
finish on 4+
And you're not utilising your TB windows properly. You need to be focusing on planning ahead so you can push envenoms out. You're TBing before phase starts too, essentially wasting a TB cast with no follow-ups
You also finished the fight with a triple mutilate, Rupture as your final cast
Need to get a handle on your CP usage as a main prio
spice surge
And you're not using TB as often as possible either, missing out on roughly 3 casts on that fight (not counting the elevator phase)
hearty grail
Thx for The feedback. Yea that 3x mutilate mistake is something i recently noticed..
opaque grotto
Yea biggest thing is he mutilates at 4 CP all the time
bleak isle
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olive peak
hiya everyone...ive seen some people play with master assassin and twist the knife...for me it seems just about equal with the exeption that it probably bursts way..way higher...how would u think an opener with master assasin and twist the knife would look like..im trying to make this work
opaque grotto
Probably the same as the regular master assassin opener..
Twist the knife doesn’t change your rotation
Instead of feelycrafting you should sim the combination
olive peak
and see the cast sequence?
opaque grotto
It’s the same as the opener in the guide
Twist the knife doesn’t change anything, just makes your envenom hit harder
olive peak
can you even see the cast sequence if using the free version of raidbots?
opaque grotto
Yes, to the right of the sim result click on the link that opens the html version
I promise you it’s the same as every other master assassin opener
Twist the knife does not change this
fierce panther
Do you guys know if shroud of suffaction applies the same way on non silenceable mobs vs silenceable mobs?
opaque grotto
Yes, the damage is the same
fierce panther
oh ok
opaque grotto
Otherwise it wouldn’t work on raid bosses LOL
fierce panther
¯_(ツ)_/¯
latent field
Hi, I’m looking to parse better than I currently am https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/dalaran/lothandorian. Would anyone be willing to give me feedback on this mother https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4NgbcDVTHZp76tCA#fight=5&type=damage-done and this vectis https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4NgbcDVTHZp76tCA#fight=13&type=damage-done log?
jagged pulsar
i'm sorry if this was pinned i did not see it, which talent do you take Exsanguinate or Toxic blades if you dont have any shroud?
quaint sequoia
is it possible to use the dungeon fight script with top gear?
willow mica
!wa
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Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
dusty jasper
So the main thought process with this spec is to use CP spenders at 4 or higher in order to not waste CP. and also not let energy reach max all while maintaining DoT uptime and cool down windows for burst?
opaque grotto
Keep your bleeds up
Pool a little energy before toxic blade so you can fit at least 2 envenoms within that window
Bruh who just nazi’d my post
lone junco
@quaint sequoia not yet. Likely at 8.1
@dusty jasper it's not so much use at 4+ as dont mut on 4. You can still garrot or tb.
opaque grotto
Wait who used slurs?
lone junco
Being toxic again
opaque grotto
You?
lone junco
opaque grotto
All of us
dusky fulcrum
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eRjCQF3PPD3XJdSMi3fYL9 broke 17k sim, 380 ilvl EQ and recleared 6/8 with a new guild, today is good day! 👍
lone junco
Idk. I'm new here.
dusty jasper
So you should always use CP spenders on 5 to get max value? (Outside of opener)
lone junco
4/5.
But it is ok to use garrote to hit 5
But if it is on cd. Then you can tb. If it is on cd just finish at 4
Aka don't mut at 4
dusty jasper
Gotcha. So if generators are on cooldwown and you have 4 CP you should spend those CP and move on?
opaque grotto
You can press literally any button except for mut at 4 CP
lone junco
Yes.
dusty jasper
Oh that’s an easy concept
lone junco
Over capping cps is bad. Finishing with 3 is probably bad. So we aim for 4/5
(3cp ruptures aren't horrible but they hurt your pb)
dusty jasper
I’m learning I’m learning.
What situations would you not want to reapply a DoT within the pandemic window?
latent field
If the bleeds are subterfuge empowered or bleeding out faster due to exsanguinate
lone junco
@dusty jasper aren't you like lvl 45
dusty jasper
Yes I’m preparing to boost you see 😉
fluid drift
also don't reapply dots if the target will die within the next few seconds and just envenom instead
dusty jasper
What is subterfuge empowered. Just googled that and nothing came up
lone junco
Subt is a talent. It pumps your garrote from stealth. 18 secs of bonus dmg.
So we let it fall off.
Midblock rotation could have a. vendetta vanish garrote.
dusty jasper
Is there a wa to know which garrote is a special one and to let it go all the way?
dusty jasper
Okay. I’m using Ipse one because I’m using his ElvUi profile and his WW wa worked fine
lost horizon
Mystler's logic block does that for exsang and subterfuge/NS
topaz notch
Darkmoondeck Fathoms, can it proc on aoe?
wispy plaza
if im not allowed todo this i apologise and please delete my comment or inform me too
im struggling to figure out what to improve on to become a better rogue if anyone has any advice on stats or gear/talent builds please let me know
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3z3Gr8KFM9qDWsT8tmT19U
normal spear
i personally don't like versatility on both rings. rings are a huge source of secondary stats, which in your case gets taken by the least valuable stat
lone junco
374 should be in the 17k range.
fluid drift
he didn't sim with reorigination array on
lone junco
Makes sense.
fluid drift
but yeah sim with other rings if you can, along with head/shoulders
lone junco
And the SS pw tb is a bit weird.
fluid drift
those traits are pretty weak for single target
lone junco
It's not unreasonable that tb > exang cause his haste / no gcb.
But array should be 1k
fluid drift
if you want more detailed advice you might need to share some logs
lone junco
I'm like 16.6k at 367ilvl
karmic forum
is SS still bugged when multi dotting?
safe matrix
no
sand dirge
haste is my highest stat when i sim with the dungeon fight script. i thought mastery/crit is the go to stat when im going into mythic+?
stone quartz
!sims
prisma monolithBOT
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stable pine
Does anyone got a WA for the empowered garrote - my current seems to be bugged for empowered garrote as soon as i garrote the 4th target
marsh bloom
How do you open on 2 targets?
with exsg
You can't garrote 4 targets empowered @stable pine
sand dirge
haste is my highest stat when i sim with the dungeon fight script. i thought mastery/crit is the go to stat when im going into mythic+?
strange python
!m+
prisma monolithBOT
Dungeon Fight script: https://pastebin.com/sggpE4Km
If you want to get stat weights add this additional ```calculate_scale_factors="1"
scale_only="strength,intellect,agility,crit,mastery,vers,haste,weapon_dps,weapon_offhand_dps"```
How to use it(video):https://streamable.com/929ww.
marsh bloom
thats not gonna help admire
sand dirge
^
lone junco
@sand dirge remember that the idea of mastery crit is based on Fok spam and tabbing ruptures. Haste is still bis for Bosses. So the M+ sim has bosses and trash, and attempts to fit across both.
your choice is to follow or ignore or do a combo. Does your aoe go down a TON to bump your st a little? is ST your prio in the dungeon comp? or are you the guy that cleave 3-6 mobs the best? etc
of you do giga pulls of 8-12 you will wish you had high crit, cause haste is a very low stat there. and GCB helps cover the haste requirement for ST, while letting you drop it some for aoe.
ruby idol
Using the dungeon script for stat weights in m+ is a trap honestly. It's better to actually understand what makes your stats valuable and feelycrafting gear
Value item level, haste to an extent, sockets, and balance your stats that way
earnest pumice
simming is overrated ;]
spice surge
For m+ it sortof is
primal gazelle
what yall think of the new fan of knives trait?
will it give us pretty much an instant +5 combo point on +5 target?
assuming the extra proc can also crit
last crown
stupid question slightly unrelated to sin, but, when M+ seasons shift, do old dungeons scale item level up as well?
like, will I have to farm Shrine unendingly again next season?
spice surge
425 galecallers Poggers
marsh bloom
13.3k for a 12 waycrest
lone junco
If I could pick I would do 30/5/40 with gcb and dice/crit
sand dirge
hm okay i'm pretty close to that
would you always go for 3 shrouded suffocation traits even if they are low itemlvl (345)?
marsh bloom
thats not ok dps right?
tired garnet
!opener
quasi ledge
Overall 13,3k on a Waycrest+12? I mean, it's average i guess but completely depends on how much you pull
If you pull fairly big and sit at 20k+ on trash then your overall is gonna even out to 16-18k ish depending on how much you do on bosses
marsh bloom
on the firstboss for UR I did 15k
quiet spruce
any tips for mythic fetid as sin?
cunning needle
pray that you get asked to sit on the mutated mass
hot snow
Look at the mythic guide?
cunning needle
also is there a list somewhere of the new traits?
and damage on adds > damage overall so if your raid is struggling to kill the mutated mass, save your vanish for the first one
spice surge
https://www.wowhead.com/news=288207/comprehensive-azerite-and-class-changes-for-patch-8-1-tides-of-vengeance
Press whatever class you want to look for and scroll down to traits
But there hasnt been 2 traits per specc for some specs yet, so we'll have to see
hazy forge
do you guys envenom with 1-3 combo points if toxic blade is ending?
marsh bloom
active or effective time to look at our damage for overall?
quartz grove
!m+
prisma monolithBOT
Dungeon Fight script: https://pastebin.com/sggpE4Km
If you want to get stat weights add this additional ```calculate_scale_factors="1"
scale_only="strength,intellect,agility,crit,mastery,vers,haste,weapon_dps,weapon_offhand_dps"```
How to use it(video):https://streamable.com/929ww.
marsh bloom
?
prime stirrup
I haven't played TB since legion, but at the time it was worth it to 3 cp envenom if they was running off
tawny sable
Is simming accurate for exsanguinate? Every combo I do shows TB as significantly better but it seems like exsang is the go-to especially in m+
supple hearth
likely everyone running exsang has galecallers
languid ore
Sim is constantly being updated. I doubt it's broken just for you
tawny sable
lol it doesnt have to be "broken" to not do a good job with something. it doesnt do a good job simming M+ and it isn't broken. thats just how it is
languid ore
Yea and it's common knowledge that it doesn't work great in m+
But you're asking about a talent that's been simmed a billion times for raiding and asking if it is wrong
tawny sable
so the answer is yes. thanks
kinda took a round-about way to get there but we got there. thanks for the help
sturdy python
Exsang is used with SS traits. Which also means you're simming with sub and not MA. Also, you can sim 4-6t over 40s-1m for a decent idea of aoe. Or use the dungeon custom apl
!m+
prisma monolithBOT
Dungeon Fight script: https://pastebin.com/sggpE4Km
If you want to get stat weights add this additional ```calculate_scale_factors="1"
scale_only="strength,intellect,agility,crit,mastery,vers,haste,weapon_dps,weapon_offhand_dps"```
How to use it(video):https://streamable.com/929ww.
sturdy python
Exsang also let's you burst prio targets better than tb, so that's good for m+
lone junco
And we rarely use env in aoe. Let alone tb +3 env. It just doesn't work.
proud ore
how much will i regret giving up and going outlaw
tawny sable
@sturdy python thanks for the additional info
prime stirrup
How will you ever get those juicy 80k gauntlet pulls without ct in tos!?
static tapir
Hi guys whats your opening Rotation for m+? Garotte garotte garotte -> ct or 4th garotte->ct?
static tapir
And when do you Start Refreshing garotte? When first empowered g ist 6sec remaining to have more uptime? Or when the first one expires?
safe matrix
herodamage in the pins
static tapir
3x ss still the way to Go?
safe matrix
depends on the pull type
but yeah SS is the goto
scent is solid too
but requires bigger pulls
static tapir
Well thanks buddy
coarse carbon
I know TB we are essentially using on CD; however in switching to exsang, what is the best method of implementing it into the rotation? Pop exsang off of CD regardless of rupture time left? Is it worth overwriting 10sec rupture for a max rupture THEN popping exsang? (thanks for the help in advance)
coarse carbon
I'd say on a boss @fimbulvtr
In m+ it's just burn when available on trash pulls i'd imagine.
vast forum
On boss, refresh rupture if <20sec remaining
vast forum
Yeah i'm not sure about the garrote refresh treshold
cunning needle
i do garrote > 20 seconds and rupture > 25
for such a big cooldown, its not worth using on anything less than at least the 'min' default duration
but thats feelycraft
like if you look at the casts on the sim report
i dont think they ever refresh garrote before exsang
vast forum
So you refresh garrote on 15 sec remaining for example? That's 100% a dps loss
cunning needle
i'd delay my exsang for a few more seconds if it's at 15 secs
i think delaying exsang for up to 4-5 seconds is okay
vast forum
Yeah that's all feelycraft
cunning needle
and its also depending on the fight as well
so on the mutated masses
i'd garrote
and then garrote again after 6 seconds
so thats what.. 12 seconds left?
then exsang
just to get a max duration exsang out
but yeah it is all feelycraft
and all situational as well
and the dps gain/loss wouldnt be that much anyway
i mean the important thing is just keeping up the bleeds right?
boreal saddle
Hello assassins
Any advice you can give for getting DPS numbers up?, I'm Simming 13,4k and using Hekili for dps rotation
and my dps on f.e target dummy is <10k
boreal saddle
Actually, I was simming with default options
I'm 362 ilvl, and the dps is super low in my opinion for the gear
solid nova
Default options include raid buffs/pots/flask/lust etc
Which unless you're practicing with all of those on, will give you a variation
But logs will be a definitive reason to see any performance issues
boreal saddle
Could you point me to right direction to finding about logs and how to use them properly
what I associate with logs, is the "log" chat tab that shows whats happening
solid nova
Have you progressed within any raids this tier?
As if you've not logged yourself, you'll be relying on someone else doing it
boreal saddle
just a pug here or there
cunning needle
boreal saddle
I haven't got a guild
cunning needle
tick that
tropic pike
2x SS is always better than 1?
solid nova
Alright, i'll see if you've got any logs then
boreal saddle
Well thats more accurate now
tropic pike
I’ve simmed and it’s suggesting I use dd instead
cunning needle
stacking SS isnt super great anymore
tropic pike
Ah
cunning needle
DD > SS
tropic pike
Interesting
vast forum
Ss is amazing
boreal saddle
How do you guys see 10k for 362ilvl? I think I did more as DH with 10 ilvl lower
vast forum
Do you not have any uldir traits?
solid nova
So taking your first log, you didnt vendetta in the opener
You're also not utilising Toxic Blade properly, where you should be pushing for envemoms. You're mainly getting 1, sometimes none within the window
boreal saddle
@solid nova where do you see all of these ? 😄
solid nova
You also could have used Vendetta 3 times in the fight and only used it twice
supple hearth
cunning needle
solid nova
You can sim your stat weights
cunning needle
could also use that
supple hearth
boreal saddle
@solid nova I got raidbots subscription and have simmed propably everything I can for the optimal gear 😄
unkempt mica
you can sim for pvp?
solid nova
@boreal saddle So select the fights, select yourself, timelines, casts
and you can see your cast sequence
supple hearth
@unkempt mica haste > mastery > vers for pvp
solid nova
For example, your Mother opener. No vendetta and not sure why you crimson vialed.
boreal saddle
probly because of damage I took
supple hearth
What damage is there in mother in the first few seconds
boreal saddle
"oops" damage
solid nova
And you have healers. Nothing in the opener should require CV use
supple hearth
Is that even possible
cunning needle
lmao
vast forum
Fire on the ground happens 3-4 sec into the fight
No other dmg
Don't use vial unless you're in real danger of dying
Cheat death on cd and all that
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
boreal saddle
Ok, thanks @solid nova I'll get to the guide and try and get the hang of the basics
I thought Hekili addon would keep my rotation optimal, maybe thats not the case here
cunning needle
try to not rely on an addon
solid nova
Im personally not a fan of rotation addons.
Give the guide a good read as well as the other resources in the pins and see how you go
cunning needle
assi is also pretty straight forward
refresh dots
envenom at 4+ CP
actually using vendetta on the pull
tropic pike
So if I sim higher with 2x dd is it better than 2x ss in m+?
tropic pike
What are the settings I need to sim for m+
solid nova
!m+
prisma monolithBOT
Dungeon Fight script: https://pastebin.com/sggpE4Km
If you want to get stat weights add this additional ```calculate_scale_factors="1"
scale_only="strength,intellect,agility,crit,mastery,vers,haste,weapon_dps,weapon_offhand_dps"```
How to use it(video):https://streamable.com/929ww.
tropic pike
Feel as if I may be simming wrong then
Thank you sorry I didn’t realise there was a command
solid nova
All good, commands get updated regularly
cunning needle
imo just run 3x ss
unless youre doing mythics like 15+
then its worth taking Scent
patent topaz
I found 1xSS was good enough for m+ for me, I use 1xss and 2x archive (all 385)
cunning needle
do you notice much of a difference on dps on trash?
because thats the main reason i run it
cunning needle
haha fair
im tempted to swap out my 345 ss for my 385 dagger in the back
i have a 370 archive but im not sure if thats worth
floral frost
i just got a galecaller and i am not sure when to use it, before or after applying bleeds? do they snapshot haste when applied?
safe matrix
luckily theres a fancy shmancy answer to that in the pins
round harbor
Only exsang snapshots
safe matrix
"How do I use Galecallers Boon?
-With Toxic Blade: On cooldown
-With Exsanguinate: Do NOT hold exsang for every galecaller. Use them seperately on cooldown with the exception of the third galecaller use, which you want to delay to line up with vendetta+vanish+exsang at around 2.25"
floral frost
that doesn;t answer my question
obtuse grove
Before Exsanguinate. Thats the only move that snapshots
floral frost
thx
safe matrix
exsang is the only thing that snapshots on haste, everything else is dynamic to it
floral frost
i am at work, so yes
patent quartz
bnet is down and cant log in into any gamez ayy
winter moss
goes to --> #off-topic
nimble tartan
anyone playing MA doing the vanish tb in the opener as apl suggests or are u guys doing the tb before vanish into env
solid nova
@nimble tartan Both viable, we simmed the difference a while back and the difference was extremely minimal.
If i recall the difference was 33dps 🤷🏼
winter moss
33 dps 
shrewd night
It adds up!
lament dove
if you do vanish TB, you can't fit in a 2nd envenom into MA window...?
drifting elbow
practically one envenom worth of dmg in 5min 🙃
drifting elbow
yeah. crits 
winter moss
still daddy
drifting elbow
winter moss
if you wipe on ghuun with 155k you gotta make every envenom count
nimble tartan
TB crits are pretty hefty
drifting elbow
if u need to minmax to that point, stack the gutripper traits man!
winter moss
just kiddin spook, it does not matter in the slightest
boreal saddle
please excuse my ignorance, but what is TTK
boreal saddle
its was a target dummy so prolly not logged anywhere
shrewd night
drifting elbow
well uptime is clearly gutted really hard
boreal saddle
I'm just trying to figure out wtf 😃 but I got the guide, it'll prolly tell me what
winter moss
me stalking
drifting elbow
just one rule when doing rotation, keep garrote and rupture up 100%
winter moss
stormscaale righ
boreal saddle
I was paying extra attention to the uptime, and I'd say with 90% certainty that I had it up all the way. BUT I didn't utilize vanish properly
winter moss
oh baby what is you doing
boreal saddle
trying to L2P here 😄
winter moss
spooky got it right just by looking
and after a quick overview of the logs you gotta pump those uptime numbers
refresh timers are in the guide and be a sticky cunt and stick to boss
and dont do that
boreal saddle
My logs are based on just Hekili addon and what it told me to do
prolly best not to analyze that, I've since dropped hekili and working to just understand the class
winter moss
you overwrote your empowered garrote with a unbuffed one
boreal saddle
I dont get what an empowered garrote is
winter moss
have ss?
boreal saddle
yea, one trait
winter moss
it buffes your garrote by X dmg and makes you get 3 cp
IF used from stealth
and if you overwrite it out of the subterfuge window youll get an unbuffed garrote dot on the boss
boreal saddle
so in short, garrote from stealth == empowered garrote?
boreal saddle
😄
winter moss
na the dmg is insane
ye ye >.<
just made sure
dont punish me
so back to topic
tisumi is right, if talented into subterfuge your garrote does increased dmg if used from stealth, further ss buffs it even more
so GIGAgarrote
boreal saddle
I just tried, a stealthed garrote did 49k damage alone, gonna test without stealth
22k
I see that now 😄
I see
patent topaz
it is helpful to read through your spellbook, talents and traits
see what they do
to avoid making silly mistakes
boreal saddle
Good point 😃 Obviously I'm taking shortcuts where I can, which in many times turns out to be a detour instead 😄
solar fog
Drink some coffee.
boreal saddle
speaking of coffee, I need a cup soon
boreal saddle
am I supposed to spam mutilate and envenom until I come to the point where garrote is running out and I need to vanish?
frosty robin
tropic pike
does the ilevel of a trinket matter too much?
I have a 345 dice is it worth spamming some higher keys looking for a higher level dice
Or will it just be an agility increase?
random scroll
the effect also scales
tropic pike
Oh so it's definitely worth upgrading
tropic pike
Had a suspicion that it did but just wanted to confirm, thanks!
random scroll
it's not obvious on trinkets like the dice since it just says "random combination of stats" without the actual value
but you can see the difference on trinkets with actual numbers
prisma monolithBOT
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sinful flint
Where would my best place be to find someone that can code decent functions for WA? Looking to modify a clickable WA
sinful flint
I use clickable WA for flasks, potions, food, augment runes and poisons
but the poison wa I found does not allow applying crippling, only wound and deadly
patent topaz
what is the advantage over clicking the spell on your bars
sinful flint
They only show up when I need them
my bar space is limited
I only have 1 action bar visible, and thats def cds
patent topaz
why not show more bars
dark crag
First time i here that
sinful flint
I want the UI as clean as possible, with only displaying what I actually need
dark crag
Most of the action happens in the top 2/3 of the screen
sinful flint
but I'm not really here to argue whether clickable WA are good, but rather if someone can help me modiify one
strange python
Guys I got a question. Im 373 ilvl yet my dmg is pretty low. Im wondering if thats because of my ring or maybe traits? I basicly can change my chest to a uldir chest with the array trait on it and I got the plumage trinket. But I've seen rogues here prefer darkmoon trinkets over lets say a foothold trinket of ilvl 365 while bloodmallet shows that the darkmoon trinket is lower in DPS so I was wondering what I can do vastly improve my DPS because Im gonna raid mythic + soon and I wanna up my dmg . Thanks alot !
lone junco
@strange python its because of your traits and trinkets and gear.
patent topaz
quick sim seems really low
strange python
Ye I know I c alot of rogues way higher
patent topaz
always wear 1 piece with array
strange python
but I c for example First mate's spyglass is really good as a use trinket
strange python
I can maybe change one of my rings for a mastery haste one ! And my weapons ofc upgrade, I got the chest orrgination array
but isnt fathom only ilvl 355?
patent topaz
you can use the top gear feature on raidbots
strange python
I c alot of people with fanthoms but it doesnt show up on bloodmallet as highest dps so makes me wonder
strange python
oh ok
patent topaz
im 380 equipped and still use fathoms over 380 socket electro, 370 corpuscle, 370 dice
lone junco
strange python
says fanthoms is 977 dps
lone junco
you arent reading the chart properly. that is why you should stick to top gear tool. Pay for the service
stop
do you see that line? fathoms is better than any trinket under 370 and better than some 400s.
and use herodamage, not bloodmallet
and use TopGear.
strange python
oh shit I c now, thanks
dark crag
Maybe with 8.1 we can replace fathoms
boreal saddle
wrong pictur
boreal saddle
dark crag
3.6 mio
lone junco
get a summary like this
which basically tells me to pick the top 5 choices
I have 1 ss option. and 2 tb
lone junco
for now.
strange python
You're my top 5 choice
lone junco
you can split it up and just do a few azerite.
drifting elbow
that doesnt look right at all
lone junco
you know which ones are best anyway
drifting elbow
sinful flint
I think for most people the min subscription is a decent number
non-sub is far too low
lone junco
next tier will be even worse with azerite
cunning pebble
You can always run them locally 😉
lone junco
lolololol
profile sets, for 12 azerite nah
next tier will have traits all over the place at different ilvls. gotta be biggeest brain for that shit.
shrewd night
@strange python Imagine trying to troll in a spec channel. Gtfo.
strange python
Shiennar pls
winter moss
sup gois
strange python
Sim talk like always
lone junco
like always
rigid sonnet
anyone know what the bleeding option does in raidbots?
lone junco
probably a multiplier for feral. idk
low palm
Hello guys, the other day I was asking about DPS pointers for an EXsang build with 2xSS, and everyone recommended i get GCB. I now have it but wonder when is the most optimal time to pop it, if always on CD or try to match it up with empowered garrote+rupture. Thanks!
rigid sonnet
rare garden
why do pug tanks hate letting me restealth
cunning needle
because some people just want to watch teh world burn
and then will also go 'wtf why do you do so low damage, arent assi rogue ssupposed to be broken in m+?'
just remind them each restealth is like another 500k damage or something
vast forum
Pugging m+ as assa/sub is a nightmare
boreal saddle
why
tidal stirrup
Hi everyone I need your help, should I use the dead-eye spyglass or the loaded dice?
drifting elbow
i like dice more than that spyglass limiting ur buff in MT
slim olive
For avg keys yes
visual wren
outlaw might be better atm, but assass is close neough to be viable
winter gale
For 10-14* keys
visual wren
the longer mob fights last the better you'll be, seeing as we got amazing sustained aoe
thats why we are amazing on fortified weeks ❤
slim olive
ehhh depends
visual wren
depends idd
winter gale
I do like 14-16k overall with 380ilvl and 2xshrouded
But adds die too fast for me to set up
slim olive
Yeah this weak if you're rolling with an arms warrior you may struggle
visual wren
then thats clearly the problem, youll be better once adds start living longer
slim olive
Non fort classes can outscale us in aoe pretty fast
Tyrannical I'd play PB with a bursty comp like that
visual wren
i personally stick to poison bomb in any situation due to it having better single target implications
winter gale
And exsang is a must?
visual wren
any affix i should say
slim olive
Yeah since you've got SS
winter gale
Yes
visual wren
@slim olive would you also suggest exsang with only one SS ? havent figured that out yet
winter gale
I think 2 are must
slim olive
Eh
winter gale
3rd one for me is Archieve
slim olive
1 is fine with exang
You wanna focus on getting your ruptures out rather than tunnelling with TB
GGG Rupture/ CT if tallented. Then tab rupture things.
visual wren
hmm ill tinker around with it a bit
ive got it down pretty well atm, put ruptures on, spam envenom when ruptures are all above 5 sec and when they start dropping below refresh em
outdpsing most dps that are 10 ilvls above
visual wren
hmm yeah
slim olive
depends on how well you manage shit
visual wren
rip demon hunters
floral frost
1xss, 2xscent works great on big pulls
visual wren
they rek me quite often haha
winter gale
They are op
slim olive
Yeah sent is another good option if you've not got ss
Yeah like if you've got a frost mage and a DH
there is no point in you going full aoe too
Plus non fort week's the adds will just die too fast
Sin is a very good hybrid between ST and AOE
visual wren
thats exactly the combo i run with ahha xD frost mage DH and disc priest
slim olive
damm
I'd just go aoe trinkets like dice or spyglass for the little bit of aoe gain. Little bit of haste to help with ST like 18% or something and then PB
with that comp
visual wren
yeah thats similar to what ive been running
haste is just a bit lower tho
like ill said ill tinker around with it a bit, not got time for M+ this week anyways
uni stuff sadly
cheers mate
slim olive
No problem
cunning pebble
Handle the pulling for him! #Tricks
My tank loves that
cunning pebble
Tanks love playing it safe, and that's boring af 😄
fierce plank
which site better herodmg or bloodmalet?
winter moss
id say herodamage
shy escarp
herodamage does a better job of showing alternate talent options for certain traits if they are better
static tapir
Exsang better for m+ with 1ss and no gcb?
prisma monolithBOT
Dungeon Fight script: https://pastebin.com/sggpE4Km
If you want to get stat weights add this additional ```calculate_scale_factors="1"
scale_only="strength,intellect,agility,crit,mastery,vers,haste,weapon_dps,weapon_offhand_dps"```
How to use it(video):https://streamable.com/929ww.
acoustic latch
Hello fellow rogues, I finally managed to get my hands on the Galecaller's Boon trinket, but is it possible to macro it with for example toxic blade? Or is that a bad idea
winter moss
!pin
How do I use Galecallers Boon?
-With Toxic Blade: On cooldown
-With Exsanguinate: Do NOT hold exsang for every galecaller. Use them seperately on cooldown with the exception of the third galecaller use, which you want to delay to line up with vendetta+vanish+exsang at around 2.25