assassination

[deft locust]

lmao

that was instant trigger

[jovial kite]

yeah

[mild coral]

lmfao

[jovial kite]

and it should be for everyone

[frosty gyro]

Oh I'm mixing it up

[jovial kite]

if you look for proper advice

you dont come spouting bullshit

when its 100% bullshit

[silver egret]

maybe 98%

[frosty gyro]

Waiut no

[silver egret]

no more than 99.4

[unkempt karma]

Lmao elitist all over

[frosty gyro]

I'm not mixing it up[

[rich olive]

@frosty gyro garr-rup-garr-vendetta-muti-rupture-exsang

[frosty gyro]

Probably doesn't matter

@rich olive I'm just talking about GCDs between garrote and exsang not the full opener you twat

[jovial kite]

the current highest simming opener can be easily found within your sims

[rich olive]

twat you said... i feel offended.

[jovial kite]

wow

[hushed turtle]

Well between garrote and exang is the full opener?

[pseudo finch]

i've always gone with - G- R- G- Mut - R - Ven - Exsang

[stuck shuttle]

Vendetta should be popped ASAP

without capping on energy

[pseudo finch]

maybe im doing it wrong -.-

[stuck shuttle]

which is why you do it before the mut

[jovial kite]

for the uninitiated and the easily swayed
https://gyazo.com/3c2f9db1740cbe7f67f16cec6c6de704

[frosty gyro]

I mean it wouldn't matter would it

[stuck shuttle]

and u want it running before Rupture is applied

[frosty gyro]

Difference is negligible

[past harbor]

@wicked nymph quick import to wowA shows you're not maximizing all your CDs and you're wasting combo points & staying energy capped too oftne

[stuck shuttle]

if you're min/maxing then the difference is enough

[velvet kernel]

how much damage should ct be overall?

[jovial kite]

you dont use ct for st, on aoe depends purely on your pulls

[hushed turtle]

depends on number of targets i assume?

[jovial kite]

or encounter

[lofty sand]

Thats a very vague question

[strange python]

Hahaha wtf Kirvin that opener is trrrrrash

[velvet kernel]

I meant for a dung

[lofty sand]

how are you going to calculate that? Each dungeon has different pulls

[jovial kite]

depends on the dungeon

[strange python]

You need to maximise empowered garrote uptime

[velvet kernel]

like there must be some rough numbers

[hushed turtle]

Is it fortified week, or tyranical, is it a +2 or +10

[silver egret]

i mean, damage values are in the tooltip

xD

[primal gazelle]

Is it me or when tank chain pulls in m+ really fucks up my dps

[velvet kernel]

its 5.1% for me is that just too low?

[silver egret]

theres your rough number

[hushed turtle]

Are u mass pulling

whats ur other class cmop

how long is boss living

whats ur ilvl, theres 100 variables

[lofty sand]

if you have a arms warrior and a DH as dps friends

your numbers are going to be shit on packs

[stuck shuttle]

not true.

[lone junco]

@jovial kite how goes the mythic btw?

[stuck shuttle]

I run with an arms warrior in high lvl keys

he only beats me when he blade storms

[deft locust]

I run with mage/dh, on any elite pack

[frosty gyro]

Well anyways Garr>Vendetta>Mut>Rupture>Exsang

So 4

[deft locust]

I normally get top dps

[stuck shuttle]

^

[deft locust]

trash, eh

[lofty sand]

well he blades every other pack

[deft locust]

we aren't there for trash

😒

[frosty gyro]

Which means minimum is 22 sec

[jovial kite]

@lone junco fine, 2 down on wednesday. thursday was splits and m+

[stuck shuttle]

my trash dps is insane @deft locust

[jovial kite]

zek voz should be a 1 pull fight

[deft locust]

you mean

the none elites?

cuz that's what I mean

non elites*

the ones that die in two casts

like the worms

[stuck shuttle]

true

[deft locust]

in manor

[lone junco]

I'm gonna start packing mastery for m+. My 6T weighs made me lol. Haste Garbo.

[frosty gyro]

@stuck shuttle How do you propose getting that to 15sec?

[lofty sand]

Assassination trash dps is pretty decent its just not bigger than the classes that are specialized on that, it never will

[deft locust]

Yeah, haste isn't important when you have 4 ruptures

giving you energy

[lone junco]

Not even that.

[daring imp]

GGGCT ayyy

[proven pumice]

@bisjack I just studied over the image you posted. I'm concerned I don't have the energy Regen to use mutilate and envenom that often. Do you ever deviate from that precise order of abilities?

[lone junco]

Dps is from ggg.

And mastery push.

[deft locust]

Hmm

I seem to hold 20k+ on 4-5pack even without ggg

if the fight lets me

get to full rupture

and fok spam

[jovial kite]

@proven pumice the opener isnt tied to your gcd

or your energy regen

[unreal minnow]

do u guys use poisned knife to fill up combo points

[deft locust]

I still use ggg ofc

[past harbor]

ggg?

[stuck shuttle]

@frosty gyro that was mainly a rough estimate really.

[unreal minnow]

or just use 4

[lone junco]

I most packs I'll see me at 25k. Around 4-5mobs. Ggg Ct is gold

[deft locust]

triple garrote

yeah it is

[primal gazelle]

how does your opener look like on a 5+ trash pull?

[deft locust]

hard to beat sin rogue in that pack size

same

you still ggg ct

[frosty gyro]

@stuck shuttle Oh okay. Just saying because you have 7 sec between Exsang and Vanish you would at best be waiting 22sec for vanish CD to use your exsanguinate.

[lone junco]

Trash is cool But my fav part of the spec is the 1T 20sec. 30kdps.

[primal gazelle]

and then just spam ct?

[hushed turtle]

U cant G outside of stealth or else u fuck ur first 3 over

[lofty sand]

its always the same, gggct, what you do next is what changes

[deft locust]

Yeah, prio bursting

[stuck shuttle]

@frosty gyro as long as you time your 2:20 right, it will be fine

[deft locust]

is pretty nuts with exsang

[frosty gyro]

@stuck shuttle Although I guess you could shave 3 sec off that with gcds

[lone junco]

Ggg Ct.
FOK ruptures on elites.
Evaluate mob count.
High? Ham on Ct.
low. FOK env.

[pseudo finch]

anyone have a mcro that changes button depending on what u talent, toxic blade or exsang ?

[deft locust]

although we ran two +9 freeholds the other day, when I did PB I overalled 15.3k dps, with CT I overalled 15.1k, same pulls. Less damage on boss with CT, but idk. Might have just been unlucky

with crits or whatnot

Granted

[weak pine]

CT is 2% less damage on ST

[deft locust]

I did the PB run second

so I might have just been more attuned to the dungeon

[weak pine]

Might also be that

[rich olive]

@pseudo finch
#showtooltip
/cast [talent:6/2] Toxic Blade
/cast [talent:6/3] Exsanguinate

[lone junco]

And for anyone that doesn't believe in my opener. Find an apl that does gggct and we can start talking.

[weak pine]

I've ran 3 Freehols during the last 2 days and I am pretty lit there

[deft locust]

I mean, doesn't everyone gggct? o_o

[lofty sand]

how can anyone not believe?

[deft locust]

I don't think anyone disputes you friend

[frosty gyro]

@stuck shuttle btw what was your source on that? Just noticing ravenholdt says to use vanish/vendetta on cd

[lofty sand]

just look at dps charts, garrote is stupid broken right now

[lone junco]

Kinda bummed that I can't use trinket sims to help with that.

[weak pine]

gggct and then

[stuck shuttle]

@frosty gyro you always want to line up your 2nd vend+vanish with exsang

look at the APL

for sim

[deft locust]

Yeah, guides are a good place to start

but can often be outdated with latest research

best to read the APL

[lone junco]

Gonna have to decide on more cleave dmg through mastery. Or keep my gg the same. And push my 1T 20 through the roof.

[deft locust]

and at least tc updates/research tabs

[lone junco]

Tbh. I like the super nuke st meta.

Way safer than old sub dfa.

[deft locust]

it's better the higher you go in keys

[stuck shuttle]

yup

[pseudo finch]

@rich olive Thanks 😄

[rich olive]

Np 😉

[sacred ore]

guys i should always sim with buffs on?

[primal gazelle]

should i be bothering to rupture a 5+ trash pull or just spam ct?

[lone junco]

We have moonkin and warrior and lock to handle the long packs and anything over 6T

[stuck shuttle]

yes u want to rupture @primal gazelle

[deft locust]

warrior tank?

[stuck shuttle]

or you won't get energy regen

[deft locust]

they are best dps atm for tanks aye?

[silk sundial]

@lone junco what is 1t 20? Sorry for the dumb question

[lone junco]

@sacred ore I do trash with buffs off and st prio with buffs on. Anything you would lust on.

[deft locust]

1 target 20 seconds

[primal gazelle]

so, gggct-->fok rupture---> ct spam?

[silk sundial]

Ah ok

[stuck shuttle]

@primal gazelle yes

no

[frosty gyro]

Looking at APL and not seeing anything suggesting holding Vendetta/Vanish for Exsang 🤔

[stuck shuttle]

rupture spam

[stuck shuttle]

sorry

[lone junco]

@frosty gyro vendetta vanish hold us from 205 to 215.

[primal gazelle]

so rupture takes priority over CT on 5+?

[stuck shuttle]

no you ggg ct

then spread a few ruptures

or you wont proc venomous wounds

[lone junco]

If things live long enough. You rupture them.

[primal gazelle]

ah thanks

[stuck shuttle]

yeah its dependent on the pack too

[silk sundial]

Is the breakpoint on rupture still 4-5 targets?

[stuck shuttle]

kind of have to play by ear

[hollow stone]

Gotta rupture so you can fok em harder so you can rupture

[vagrant wasp]

in general how many mobs for a CT to do more damage than a ruptured elite

[hollow stone]

Its a paradox

[lone junco]

2cp+ rupture will do.

[frosty gyro]

@lone junco ?

[lone junco]

Just put it on elites.

[deft locust]

to be fair, you wanna rupture so you can fok spam to fit in an envenom in between reapplying ruptures and ct's

so your fok procs much more poison procs

80% instead of 50, helps boost that damage more than it sounds like

[hollow stone]

Yea. In aoe, rupture is for the energy, dmg is a bonus

[strong copper]

3 stack shrouded suffocation with a 340 chest 2x stack with 355 chest

[lone junco]

@frosty gyro if you use exang and SS. There is a delay in the apl. That re sync the vendetta vanish gg exang around 2:20 time.

Since they split at the start.

[frosty gyro]

@lone junco Mind pointing out where that is?

[silk sundial]

I know in legion after 4-5 ruptures you got more energy than you could use and at that point you would spam envenom. Is it the same in bfa?

[lone junco]

Run your simcraft. Click the HTML. Scroll to apl. Click sample sequence.

[fluid ibex]

can someone give me the optimal opener for 3+ mobs using CT and Exs ?

[fluid ibex]

id go 3x garrote into rupture into exs into fan into CT ?

[primal gazelle]

@stuck shuttle how many cb point rupture should i be spreading

[frosty gyro]

@lone junco Oh yeah I guess it's somewhere in there

[lone junco]

exang on one delends on prio mob.

[unreal bear]

depends on how long they'll live?

[lone junco]

I set up the same. Then vendetta rupture the prio. Drop GC and rip.

A 3pack with a vendetta exang should be in the 25k dps range. If not. You did it wrong. Or it lasted way too long

[fast nacelle]

@lone junco how do you like it

[lone junco]

Shit. I'm gonna have to learn sub.

[fast nacelle]

exang being fotm

[lone junco]

It's tiring tbh.

Esp with the apl being wrong for cleave.

5min hecticaddcleave does not exist.

[fast nacelle]

the bug still exists right

with garrote

[lone junco]

Yeah.

[fast nacelle]

idk how long it takes to fix this shit

its stupid

[lone junco]

Wouldn't matter if they fixed it.

Unbuffed garrote is like 2k ticks.

Buffed is 25k crits.

[fast nacelle]

well you have your buffed ones

and can get nonbuffed ones aswell

[lone junco]

We just wouldn't cast unbuffed garrotes. Except for maybe. Garrote mut rupture. Instead of limp FOK

[fast nacelle]

depends

3 garrote into rup exsang

one rup garrote runs out

you cant recast garrote until the other 2 are done

thats meh

[lone junco]

It's just not much extra dmg. Maybe the e return would be nice.

[fast nacelle]

its not about extra dmg

more about losing your dmg if you cast another garrote

[lone junco]

When they fix it. I'll run 2p20 for the 0cd. See how that goes.

[fast nacelle]

"by accident"

or too early

[lone junco]

Sure. I'm just not garroting until t:18 ish.

[strange python]

Well yeah

But we've discussed this before

Even if the SS didn't drop off from using the 4th garrote, it would be a tiny boost to DPS

[fast nacelle]

funny how sub got nerfed and still sims 300 dps higher than assa for me

[strange python]

Do you have good Sin traits?

[lone junco]

Sub monsters on Zul.

How far are you guys?

[fast nacelle]

i got 2x ss 1x laser 370

[strange python]

Damn

[unreal bear]

really stupid question.

[lone junco]

Still running with toffee?

[strange python]

Why is sub so much better then

[fast nacelle]

yes

all good.. we did 3/8 and vectis 25% after 2h

[unreal bear]

"3 garrote into rup exsang" are the 3 Gs just to generate CP and optimize dot length

or is there something im missing

[fast nacelle]

we just dont raid a lot.. 2x 3 1/2h and cleard hc aswell

[lone junco]

That is a cleave condition.

[strange python]

Yeah

[unreal bear]

oh, gotcha

i was thinking ST

[strange python]

You only use 2x garrotes ST

[sand canyon]

@lone junco today i met god noobe

[strange python]

For pandemic

[lone junco]

@sand canyon speak to me my son.

[sand canyon]

@lone junco 65k st burst and 80k aoe

[lone junco]

Strum?

[fast nacelle]

@sand canyon Poggers

[sand canyon]

yes

@fast nacelle 💪

[lone junco]

Mastery stack?

Or what.

That's silly high.

[sand canyon]

yea both with mastery gear but gales

[lone junco]

GC is so good.

[sand canyon]

but in tyr i go mostly low mastery tho

in most dungeons

cause of bosses

[lone junco]

Best I get is 35k over like 12sec.

St.

[sand canyon]

thats sick

[lone junco]

My group is still "why am I here"

I toss kidney after the exang.

[sand canyon]

haha

1st boss motherloade

with full mastery

dice proc

and bl

gal

u met god

[fast nacelle]

i need gal

[lone junco]

For that prey rip.

[fast nacelle]

[sand canyon]

tyra 😦

spam shrine!

[lone junco]

Nice. Haven't done ml since m0

Shrine is nice.

[sand canyon]

noobe

ml 1st boss is bae

[lone junco]

I got a wq trinket that stacks with GC

[silk sundial]

@sand canyon do the droplets have bursting?

[fast nacelle]

https://i.imgur.com/OINZdY2.png

[silk sundial]

They dropped sanguine pools

[sand canyon]

dice is also broken

[fast nacelle]

if this would have haste

[sand canyon]

yes

[fast nacelle]

with agi statstic

[lone junco]

Haste clicks. Puts me at like 77% haste St. lust.

[sand canyon]

lol tyra

wtf

[lone junco]

It's the berserker juju.

[sand canyon]

gale is super underrated

i think next week

[lone junco]

You can /use/use with th GC.

[sand canyon]

full crit mastery with gale trinket could fly high

[tepid ridge]

gale is insane

[sand canyon]

the broken thing is

[tepid ridge]

worth delaying exsang for gale?

[sand canyon]

its only 1 min for almost every pull ready in highkeys not like others for 2mins

[lone junco]

Not sure if it is a good idea. But I'll run it for find.

[tepid ridge]

always wondering

[sand canyon]

i tested everything basically

[strange python]

How is Gale underrated?

It seems sick

[sand canyon]

well

no one with a "name" uses in mplus

[strange python]

I pray for it every time I run Shrine

[sand canyon]

but i tried today and its really sick

not talking about raids or st

the moment u get finally 370 daggers

and someone links me 395 LOL

[lone junco]

Cleave weights. Haste is last. But since we can't change gear.

[strange python]

lol

[tepid ridge]

still don't got mine Tol Dagor PLS :p

[lone junco]

I'm only like 346-349 ilvl.

[sand canyon]

i grinded the shit for the 370s annd ppl getting 395

[hazy pebble]

Hi fellow assassins, I have a question for aoe dps. What do you priortize? garrote, rupture, or mutilate buff?

[lone junco]

Dumpster my groups tho.

[sand canyon]

@hazy pebble gar

[tepid ridge]

RNGod is unfair 😦

[strange python]

Garrote is prio

[sand canyon]

gar > all > gar > gar > all >

[strange python]

All the time

[lone junco]

Only subterfuge garrote.

[strange python]

Garrote is the KING of KINGS

[hazy pebble]

lul

so garrote every cd?

[lone junco]

Muscle gonna get us nerfed.

[hazy pebble]

if fighting against 5+ mobs?

[strong copper]

@fast nacelle that dagger tho

[lone junco]

Streaming the good stuff.

[silver prawn]

guys what enchants use on weapon?

[strange python]

Subterfuge SS Garrote is G.O.D.

[lone junco]

M+^

[sand canyon]

@lone junco maybe sunday wanna start highkeys its just pain to find ppl early 😦

[fast nacelle]

yeah got 390 dagger on my alt rogue and 395 on main xd

[lone junco]

It was fun while it lasts.

[sand canyon]

tyra

u joking or?

[hazy pebble]

how the hell do you get a 395 dagger

[fast nacelle]

nop

[sand canyon]

pic

[tepid ridge]

@silver prawn your 2 higher secondarystats (haste + 2nd sim yourself ^^)

[sand canyon]

or didnt happn

[fast nacelle]

ok

hold on

[dawn root]

Wait why do you have an alt rogue

[sand canyon]

how do u guys loot that shit

[frosty gyro]

@hazy pebble M Uldir warforged

Only way to get one

I guess M cache warforged too

[wheat zealot]

Me with my 350 daggers

[pure sparrow]

same

[hazy pebble]

i got a heroic dagger 370 but 385 phew

[frosty gyro]

@wheat zealot same and i keep getting 5 ilv upgrades

[sand canyon]

@wheat zealot spam m+

[hazy pebble]

crazy

[frosty gyro]

RIP money on enchants

[wheat zealot]

I do

[valid atlas]

U run CT instead of PB in m+?

[sand canyon]

for 99% dungeons its better

[wheat zealot]

Been spamming TD's

[frosty gyro]

I have a 385 chest with SS though 👌

[wheat zealot]

Just unlucky

[sand canyon]

in fortified no question at all

[fast nacelle]

https://i.imgur.com/oMUIqjQ.png - 395 and 375 from pvp
https://i.imgur.com/SwSxA9c.png - 390 from weekly (but i dont play this one atm 😄 )

[valid atlas]

Ive been doing it all way smh

[sand canyon]

even in kings rest ct blasts for me.

[hazy pebble]

390 LOL

[sand canyon]

so only dungeon after testing all atm is atal dazar where i would go PB in tyrannical

[hazy pebble]

jesus

[cedar anchor]

poison bomb jsut suck discks, i run ct everywhere literally

[wheat zealot]

373

[frosty gyro]

Man I need to farm arena

That trinket is disgusting

[cedar anchor]

it does on average less than darkmoon trink for me, so its shit

[wheat zealot]

God damn

[sand canyon]

basically fortified ct > pb tyrannical ct > pb (unless atal) pin it noobe

😄

[fast nacelle]

trying to get 2.1k rating for 385 weekly

so you get basically 2x 385 weekly

[valid atlas]

Its also bugged, it never procs on aoe and always does on st

[frosty gyro]

Good luck man

[fast nacelle]

yeah need 100 more rating

but should be fine

[sand canyon]

@fast nacelle let whaaz play 😄

@valid atlas it proc in aoe

[cedar anchor]

yeah like the only dungeon i wouldnt run ct is atal

[sand canyon]

but its just doggo

[tepid ridge]

CT > PB in tyrannical? 😮

[sand canyon]

sure

[wheat zealot]

Pb does almost nothing

[tepid ridge]

0 use on boss right?

[sand canyon]

wow u do 40k extra dmg on boss in tyr but miss like 4mil dmg on trash

yea gg

[valid atlas]

@sand canyon 't was a joke, badumm tss

[tepid ridge]

that's true ^^

and the hidden blades kinda sucks

anyway 😦

[sand canyon]

@valid atlas sry had a long day im slow

@tepid ridge u can use it on kings rest endboss etc depends on fihgt

[valid junco]

3 x ss stil bis ?

[sand canyon]

yes

[tepid ridge]

y

always SS lul

it's dumb af

[valid junco]

goodie

[sand canyon]

im hyped to get nerfed

@lone junco sry

😦

[tepid ridge]

ty for the tips @sand canyon

[sand canyon]

sure mate just ask

[hazy pebble]

is assassination nerf incomming

[tepid ridge]

not playing anymore with the bro Naowh? likes both of you guys keep the good stuff going

[sand canyon]

well he is doing progress so

after progress is done i guess everyone play highkeys again

[tepid ridge]

oh yeah goes back to method ^^

yup

[smoky lantern]

question

when u exsanq a target do u wait til garrot and rupture completely run off or do pandemic effect

[pure sparrow]

wait

til literally the last possible second, even if that means letting it fall of

[valid junco]

its one time offer with exsa

[sand canyon]

i have a perfect clip for that q

just dm me since i cant link due stream

[valid junco]

btw opiniong on pooling energy before TB or just pushing it on cd

im on the push on cd side

[half gust]

Any downside to refresh Garrote/Rupture after using Exsanguinate (ofc 7sec left on rupture and 5 on garrote) ?

[valid junco]

downside is u loose the exsa effect for 7 and 5 secs

[dawn root]

Wait that question was literally just asked

[half gust]

So you wanna let them run out after using Exan?

[fast nacelle]

imagine you could extend exsang bleedings with pademic

😍

[valid junco]

simmin only 300 dps lower with Crimson T , we should use it on Uldir add bosses atleast

it might be my stats also , crit haste heavy

imagine a Exsanguinate that effects all targets 😄

Assassination on crack

[smoky lantern]

ty @pure sparrow

[valid junco]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eMtQm8LVGpLoEv36NT8FUj

[hazy pebble]

@half gust I think you should reread what Exsang does

[valid junco]

with CT , 5min patchwerk

[onyx wind]

how about doing talent compare instead ^_^

[valid junco]

its 300 dps lower with ct

[onyx wind]

Which bosses would you go CT on?

[valid junco]

so imo fuck the RNG and get CT

[onyx wind]

Zek'voz?

[valid junco]

any add boss

[onyx wind]

lol

[hazy pebble]

Jul?

Zul

[onyx wind]

Idk about that

[sharp schooner]

add dps is just padding

never run CT

[onyx wind]

kinda agree with that one

Sacrificing boss dmg so adds die .3 sec faster doesnt do much

[valid junco]

20% change to do PB , its not like im sacrificing anything 😄

[onyx wind]

Sacrificing boss dmg

[tall kraken]

they nerfed shrouded suffication right, it no longer stacks?

[onyx wind]

Wheree did you read that

[valid junco]

not really. im 100% adding add dps

the 20% is too low to depend on

[onyx wind]

would tbh rather just use rupture on the adds

[sharp schooner]

the adds are going to die whether you damage them or not

[tall kraken]

someone told me that like wednesday i think?

[onyx wind]

If you find a source, pleease linnk

[valid junco]

Omnu thats the spirit 😄 , if everyone thinks that way its a wipe

[cold dock]

is it weird haste is simming lowest stat for 4 target 2 min

[onyx wind]

No its not

[cold dock]

wouldnt higher haste make bleeds tick way more which is good for cleave

[tall kraken]

oh SS is just down 11% damage.

[valid junco]

dat weapon dps weight though 😄

[onyx wind]

You dont neeed more eneergy with 4 targeets anyway lol

@tall kraken link

[tall kraken]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/world-of-warcraft/21973195/hotfixes-september-13-2018

as of yesterday

[stuck shuttle]

i clicked that fully expecting an SS nerf

[wide bolt]

August 24:
Shrouded Suffocation (Rogue) damage reduced by 11%. Fixed an issue that caused this trait's damage increase to fail.

[stuck shuttle]

😌

[wide bolt]

So awhile ago yes but nothing recent

[valid junco]

thats oldie

[stuck shuttle]

we knew about that

[onyx wind]

Cant find it in the notes

lol

[stuck shuttle]

that was 1 week after patch

and the damage buff wasn't even applying

properly

[cold dock]

i thought the issue is still here?

or is that a diff bug

[stuck shuttle]

!ss

[prisma monolith]

Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.

[stuck shuttle]

different bug

[valid junco]

we can give another 11% if needed , still out dpsing other rogues 😄

[stuck shuttle]

SHHH

thats blasphemy

thems is treason words

[valid junco]

😄

[onyx wind]

pretty suree sub will outclass if we get another 11% nerf lol

[stuck shuttle]

sin hasn't been this fun in awhile

blizz pls no

[onyx wind]

You ran exsang in EN

Beeen a while ye

[valid junco]

naah , they just been played by majority of players , we the filthy few will always rise

[stuck shuttle]

but mainly cause shoulders were broken af

[onyx wind]

Shouldeers fucking sucked

Didnt like it

[hollow stone]

Yea. I hate 100% crit too

[valid junco]

seriously thinking , its been like 3 weeks ? and we already spanking the hell out of everything , give us 3-6 months and we will be gods

[void ocean]

ive been playing outlaw for the last few weeks, just a question, exsang > tb now?

[onyx wind]

Depends

[fast nacelle]

you need to sim

[onyx wind]

Exsang and tb are good on some bosses, bad on others

[hollow stone]

As a general answer, yes. But its not a straight up yes or no between the two

[silk sundial]

Tb Sims higher for me because I have a ton of mastery and almost no haste

[onyx wind]

Ive managed to make exsang work on eevery boss though

99% logs

[void ocean]

gotcha, thanks

[onyx wind]

Pretty sure TB is betteer if ur new to assa

[void ocean]

not new

just haven't played it since bfa came out

[onyx wind]

Its the same as early legion

[supple compass]

is tb or exsang better for tyrannical this week, they sim almost the same for me

[valid junco]

tb on cd is better than half assed Exsanguinate

[onyx wind]

Exsang is better

[valid junco]

if u master it , then yew

😄 i mean yes

not yew haha

[fast nacelle]

exang isnt rly any hard anymore

[stuck shuttle]

exsang performs better on shorter fights too

[onyx wind]

On most tyrannical bosseees you get 2x veendetta windows

[stuck shuttle]

perfect for m+

[onyx wind]

It was never hard lol

[valid junco]

M+ enviroment is all about burst so yes.

[fast nacelle]

well it required to not fail vanish

and stuff...which made it "harder"

[supple compass]

so you dont really miss the extra cp from tb?

[onyx wind]

No you dont

Im pulling 16-17k overall with eeexsang and PB/HB

[strange python]

someone here speak German`?

[onyx wind]

on +13 today

[valid junco]

do u speak Finnish ?

[strange python]

no need help^^

[valid junco]

jawohl

[supple compass]

hidden blades over ct?

@onyx wind

[wheat zealot]

I wouldnt use hb over ct

[onyx wind]

deepeends on dungeon

and setup

[supple compass]

pr poison bomb over ct? thought ct was the way to go now generally

[lone junco]

HB depends on scent stacking.

[onyx wind]

my pb did 6%

HB for infested

[zinc skiff]

Run with it more, maybe you got crazy procs

wont know till u try

[onyx wind]

and small birds in atal'dazar

[hushed pulsar]

pb is doing fine for me, usually topping meter sin +10's anyways

[whole loom]

Hey Guys, fairly new to SIN, if i can stack 3x SS do i spam Garrote on CD, or continue normal rota?? 😃

[onyx wind]

I dont like CT, feels like i dont have CP's for kidneys etc

[hushed pulsar]

only empowered garrote

[icy ember]

!ss

[prisma monolith]

Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.

[onyx wind]

Also CT is worthless for infeesteed most of the time

just pad dmg

[supple compass]

so does taking ct just depend on whether ur other 2 dps or mongoloid aoe or not?

[compact void]

Hey , what guides mean by "uptimes on Envenom" ? please

[supple compass]

are*

[whole loom]

ah thx shadd!

[onyx wind]

If your grp has good aoe, theres no reeason to takee CT

[hushed pulsar]

envenom increases poison application chance for a small amount of time

[lone junco]

I do the majority of our cleave.

[onyx wind]

Whats ur dps on 3packs

with no vanish

with CT

[hushed pulsar]

on 3 packs i comfortably sit on 20k

[lone junco]

20-25k is pretty normal.

[compact void]

@hushed pulsar I know but you already have your poison on the target no ? So it is useless in st

[onyx wind]

I had 25-30k

but wee had deceent aoe aswell

[lone junco]

Depends on the vendetta exang.

[hushed pulsar]

@compact void dude read deadly poison

[lone junco]

Ct is like 12% usually

[onyx wind]

Its hard to compare

Since you also dump CP's into it

[compact void]

@hushed pulsar Ooh ok the insta proc !

[hushed pulsar]

yeah xD

[lone junco]

Maybe 35% with non elites.

[opaque grotto]

I hate pressing CT

[lone junco]

Ofc.

[opaque grotto]

Feels like shit

[hushed pulsar]

CT just feels awful

[compact void]

@hushed pulsar Sry i'm new to assa 😄

[hushed pulsar]

@compact void no worries my man 😛

[lone junco]

I love Ct. fuck the dot. I'm there for the hit.

[junior aurora]

CT feels better in aoe then pressing envenom

but its no secret techinique

[hushed pulsar]

when the PB procs though

feels so fucking good

[lone junco]

Meh.

[junior aurora]

secret technique in aoe is so satisfying when it crits

[lone junco]

I'm over pb. Had 2years of that shit.

[stuck shuttle]

when you get back to back PBs procs on a big pack

[opaque grotto]

Legit I’m sure we can all agree the bottom talent row sucks fat wiener

[stuck shuttle]

gasm

[onyx wind]

Preetty sure taleents depeends on what dungeon you tak

[lone junco]

Ye.

[onyx wind]

Idk, i actually like beeing ablee to switch them around

min/max

[lone junco]

Post ss meta will be FOK traits.

[hushed pulsar]

they just need to suck it up and bring all the progress they made with classes on artifact weapons back

[onyx wind]

Compared to everey other singlee fucking talent in the game

[lone junco]

And scent stacking.

[junior aurora]

does anyone even run hidden blades

[hushed pulsar]

no lol shits bad

[lone junco]

If you get 6k agi from scent. HB is a monster.

But that's not current best meta.

[sacred ore]

I should always stack SS?

[lone junco]

Planning ahead for SS nerf tho

Yes.

[opaque grotto]

Scent will be sick once SS gets nerfed

[proven pumice]

If you're going through your ST rotation as normal and an add spawns, if you get it with the ol' Garrote will it bug out just like in the pins

[junior aurora]

if

[lone junco]

2cp rupture ramp up. Into HB.

[opaque grotto]

Esp on fortified weeks

[slender peak]

If scent becomes king CT will be dead there will be no reason to use it 😦

[opaque grotto]

Good

[lone junco]

Ct is buffed by agi.

[opaque grotto]

Nobody likes that shit

[hushed pulsar]

o hop ct dies, shit sucks up combo points i want for envenom

[onyx wind]

Why would u eeveer go scent

[opaque grotto]

If SS gets nerfed

[civic cedar]

I might be srupid but Im using this macro:
#showtooltip
/cast Vanish
/cast Garrote
U would think that the garrote u cast from this is empowered but very often it isnt 😦 why is this?

[opaque grotto]

If you read

The chat

[onyx wind]

Theen you stop playing assa

?!?!?!?

[opaque grotto]

???

[slender peak]

Yea but I do more dos with ct then envonoming on aoe

[opaque grotto]

Oh did you stop playing sub because it lost 5% or something?

[onyx wind]

@civic cedar bar lag

Ofc

[opaque grotto]

Lol

[onyx wind]

Why would u play a worse spece on purpose lol

[opaque grotto]

People are too scared to play what they like

[hushed pulsar]

i suck fat dong at sub which is why i play sin and outlaw :^)

[opaque grotto]

Because I want to enjoy my gameplay

[civic cedar]

any way to fix this? :p (or is it a case of get better internet xD

[onyx wind]

I likee doing damagee

Is there ea problem with that?

[opaque grotto]

If you’re good at the class you will perform

[onyx wind]

I perform

[junior aurora]

will you switch classes if ss gets nerfed

[onyx wind]

On all 3 specs

[opaque grotto]

Are you in the leading packs in mythic prog?

No?

Then what does it matter? Have fun

Play what feels good

[onyx wind]

But getting 99% logs

and having 1k-500 dps diff

[steep citrus]

they just said they have fun doing the most damage

[onyx wind]

Is kinda weird

[steep citrus]

why is that not a valid kind of fun?

[lone junco]

Post ss.

[onyx wind]

Screenshot of logs?

[opaque grotto]

They said they like doing damage

[meager abyss]

what are bis wep enchants? deadly and quick nav?

[steep citrus]

exactly. thank you

[opaque grotto]

Doing well isn’t the same as having fun

[onyx wind]

I have fun being at the top of the meter

[opaque grotto]

But OK

[onyx wind]

And I would never leech off someeone

[lone junco]

Scent will be like a sub combo. Rupture junk and drag to boss for the exang.

[onyx wind]

Just becausee i like having different buttons to press

[compact void]

What is CT guys ?

[opaque grotto]

I don’t think playing sub would make you a leech lol

[onyx wind]

also getting bencheed is a thing

[lone junco]

9k agi inc.

[meager abyss]

does anyone know if deadly and quick navigation are best wep enchants?

[onyx wind]

Definetely not, but it does less damage

And less management

[sacred ore]

guys i have a gear 370 with no SS and a gear 340 with SS, which one should i choose?

[onyx wind]

Its easier to stand out in a spec likee assa

[sacred ore]

my other azerite gears have SS

[opaque grotto]

@meager abyss are haste and crit your best stats?

If yes

Then use it

[onyx wind]

@sacred ore whats the trait on the 370

[sacred ore]

@onyx wind fan blades and archive

[versed finch]

If you got the 370 shoulders with scent, it's not bad to have 1 scent and 2 ss

[onyx wind]

Pick archive

[opaque grotto]

Use archive lol

[sacred ore]

instead of SS?

[lone junco]

It's funny that ggg weights are low haste. Mastery above agi.

[sacred ore]

instead of 340 SS*

[opaque grotto]

Yes..

[versed finch]

Yeah

[sacred ore]

but my other azerite gears have SS

[opaque grotto]

Do you know how to sim yourself?

I’d do tjat

We understand, it doesn’t matter

[versed finch]

So u still have 2 ss and 1 archive

[nocturne cradle]

After complaining to my friend that the emissary reward was yet again not a dagger he sent me this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481825061880463367/490208907390877696/unknown.png

[junior aurora]

but outlaw was top dps for a few weeks

[stuck shuttle]

tfw I have 4 370 daggers in my bag rn @nocturne cradle

[nocturne cradle]

350 ah dagger and 340 OH siming 14k

[junior aurora]

i have 4 345 daggers almost the same thing 😃

[nocturne cradle]

355 ilevel

[stuck shuttle]

lol

[nocturne cradle]

still top dps

:/

[sacred ore]

my gear should at least have one SS?

[stuck shuttle]

yes

[hushed pulsar]

stack that shit

[stuck shuttle]

most definitely atleast 1

[hushed pulsar]

before it gets gutted

[stuck shuttle]

shhhhh no gutt

only buff

[hushed pulsar]

after that just stack scent

[junior aurora]

"garrote now only rewards 1 extra combo point"

wonder how good it would still be

[lone junco]

Not.

[glass vessel]

would still be busted

cp's dont matter it's the dmg

[stuck shuttle]

the cp does matter

instant 6 cp on pull

thats ridiculous

[glass vessel]

not njear as much as the part where it's 50%+ of you dmg in M+

[lone junco]

A SS garrote is 100k damage.

3x.

[glass vessel]

the nerf would revolve around m+ numbers, assassination is fine in raids

[lone junco]

Single tab.

[junior aurora]

last logs i saw sin was pretty clearly ahead in raids

[lone junco]

Yeah. They would have to buff mut trait. Or something to offset garrote.

[steep citrus]

melee hunter new master class

[lone junco]

Sample size of 3?

[steep citrus]

155

lul

[lone junco]

Sin size?

[steep citrus]

1513

[lone junco]

Neat.

[glass vessel]

i mean if we're using that, outlaw is still "clearly ahead" in mythic lol

[steep citrus]

yep

[lone junco]

Cleave fights are still strong.

[signal salmon]

What is scent??

[steep citrus]

noobe forgot to wipe

[lone junco]

Agi buff per rupture.

[tepid ridge]

any wa who can track empowered bleeds from subterfuge / exsanguinate? can't find a decent one

[lone junco]

Play style would be far more busy. And difficult. But would ramp heavy over pack duration.

But Iive is a 4sec rotation for m+.

Granted DH. Just hits fel barrage.

[glass vessel]

hey, they also press eyebeam too okay

its hard

[spice surge]

But momentum is really hard to play with on ST

But aoe is just lul

[lone junco]

I never liked momentum.

[glass vessel]

yea momentum in raids kinda blows

does he only autoattack?

[lone junco]

I was like 🤔

[onyx wind]

DH is only fun if you play momentum imo

Feels like it should be baseeline

[lone junco]

Do you still aim for 60% crit?

[onyx wind]

dunno, its my alt

rarely play on it

[lone junco]

Same. If they nerf Sin I'll probably dabble more.

[onyx wind]

Its fun to play, just cba gearing/leveling neeck

and reep

[spice surge]

Rep is pretty irrelevant though

[lone junco]

I won't do any of that again. Just let it happen.

[spice surge]

15 ilvl on neck is like a socket

[lone junco]

Can get carried in a +5. And gear that way.

[magic zenith]

Same with neck imo

[glass vessel]

wq's already broke me. just barely hit lvl 22 on my neck lol

[lone junco]

Just beam and fel barrage.

[onyx wind]

I leegit outdmg 350 people

as a 300 ilvl dh

LMAO

[jolly notch]

Well skill has a lot to do with it

They could just be bad lol

[onyx wind]

Obviously they are bad

[lone junco]

Old wow was weird.

Time over buttons.

[onyx wind]

DH is so satisfying though

But ill stick to rogue for a while

Because its 70 ilvl higher

[lone junco]

I think you got me. I'll lvl mine after we are done with raid prog.

[jolly notch]

Im loving ass rogue rn, ive literally never lost in damage since the switch from sub

[lone junco]

Yeah. Unholy Dk swaps on some pulls.

He peaks near 30k

But I have overall.

By far.

[gritty solstice]

you guys play sectec this week at +10?

[onyx wind]

Im always 1-2k aheaed of eveeryone as assa

[gritty solstice]

cause single target build feels better

[lone junco]

#subtlety

Overall tend to be 11-13k. Others like 6,9

[royal lantern]

go away with sectec, this is not the sub channel

[lone junco]

Gonna say. They hate gggct.

[onyx wind]

Like

Sometimees i wondeer

[drifting stump]

with which talent do you guys run M+ Vigor or Deeper Stratagem?

[onyx wind]

When the peeople in my guild get a 20% log

[jolly notch]

I was 1.5k ahead in my heroic raid group and in m+ im always way ahead

[deft locust]

hey guys

[onyx wind]

Aree the people below them dead?

[royal lantern]

probably yes

[deft locust]

is there a way to check the full report of each skill used on raidbots?

I can't seem to find it

[royal lantern]

or on mother you get bad logs when you get send over early

[deft locust]

🤔

[onyx wind]

report?

as in APL ?

[deft locust]

yeah

[onyx wind]

think u can click it

before simming

drop down menu

Thats why you deeal a big amount of dmg on mother

So you get put in last grp

[deft locust]

hmm

can't seem to find it 😒

[lone junco]

Apl. Then sample sequence c

[onyx wind]

maybee its premium only

[deft locust]

https://gyazo.com/5f6347b3a8ab7efa50bcfadde0f1a23b

[onyx wind]

http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/T22_Raid.html

[rotund grove]

so i hear rogues are dead in the raiding scene .

lul zul

[royal lantern]

the class is ded when it is not #1 dps for most people

[drifting stump]

with which talent do you guys run M+ Vigor or Deeper Stratagem?

[strong tusk]

what class is top1 now for raiding?

[onyx wind]

vigor

arcanee magee

or affli lock

[rotund grove]

i mean method bringing 5 rogues to tunnel boss says alot.

[royal lantern]

world first guild stacked rogues since ever

cus they have the best deffensive options avaible too all melee specs

feint/cloak alone makes the class viable

[hollow rose]

can you get two quick navigation enchants? like do they stack

[unreal minnow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/otAjYbMmPSBZ7iSyYhbVAf

[rotund grove]

i mean they brought an arms warrior and a dk in. so i guess melee classes are balanced.

[spice surge]

They didnt stack rogues for survivability

That had literally nothing to do with it

[junior aurora]

@endurburg diminishing returns

[strange python]

@spice surge boss damage from ss combo

[spice surge]

Rogues just happen to be the best at ST when theres 10 mobs around

[toxic plover]

I'm pretty sure it was because shuriken storm

[swift flicker]

aye, think they were all sub

[spice surge]

Which means that for an average guild, stacking rogues is definitely not necessary

[toxic plover]

They kept the Crawgs up as long as possible for it

[unreal minnow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/otAjYbMmPSBZ7iSyYhbVAf

suggestions ?

[rotund grove]

so basicly zul is just a ST fight in "disguse" guilds that don't have enough Single target are going to struggle on it.

[stuck shuttle]

thats why method runs 5 rogues

on their kill

[drifting stump]

they just wanted to get in p2 as quick as they could I suppose?

[quartz spear]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[pulsar steppe]

Sorry if this is a frequently asked question. But do I go Deadly or Quick Navigation on Main Hand?

[astral kernel]

hey, question re the top guilds stacking rogues : why is it that they seem to only have 1 assass and 4 subs?

[rapid halo]

Sub has more burst and people farmed for the good sub traits first im guessing

If they had more sin azerite traits im sure youd see more sin

[astral kernel]

got it

[plain jacinth]

its cause of the fight, on mythic zul you can only kill one add at a time. Sub lets you funnel damage into the priority add, or into the boss

[safe matrix]

Sub has the strongest priority target damage off of adds in the game

[plain jacinth]

its kinda like desolate host in tomb

[deft locust]

yo

[safe matrix]

So they used the adds to burn down the boss as sub

[deft locust]

is there a way to get raidbots to not use 3min cd's? Or would I need to custom edit the plugin

[strange python]

Any piece of SS shoulders we can try to reliably farm?

Like on Mythic 0

For a WF

You can do it with Cowl of Fluid Machinations

[silk sundial]

As a rogue should you focus on the boss or the adds like crusher of hexer when pulled in?

[strange python]

Depends on your job

If you're with the rest of the melee, do what RL says

If you're told to tunnel Zul, tunnel Zul

[zealous lily]

i got a very high ranking heroic parse as assassin just dotting adds and tunneling zul with exsang

i'm doing same thing on mythic progression if only because i only have good assassin azerite (no split runs)

i also used crimson tempest but most of the top logs are using pbomb

[hollow stone]

You should be able tunnel zul and if youre not you should discuss with your RL. But like nadem said, dont just tunnel cause we told you to. We arent in your specific raid group

[zealous lily]

i dotted the adds... our kill was the r1 kill speed world at the time on weds

[silk sundial]

It seemed like our group was having trouble getting adds down so I would break off to do that.

[zealous lily]

you need to ST the boss or your add phase will just be much longer

[hollow stone]

I also used ct on zul for maximum cheese 🧀

[quartz depot]

how do i get exsang to sim more than tb

[hollow stone]

3x ss and more haste lol

[dapper wraith]

Maybe this is a silly question - when I do pvp, I get 345 items, what makes them go higher? I saw someone with a 370 gladiators shanker. I thought they couldn't warforge that high.

[quartz depot]

more haste it is then

[hollow stone]

Rating

370 could have come from warfront too. If you are horde

Or weekly pvp chest

[zealous lily]

ther'es an upgrade item you get in pvp

it boosts your weak items to a higher one

high ss traits, haste, maybe some other stuff

[hollow stone]

Dude. I just answered this

[zealous lily]

i just know it sims higher for me

[fresh robin]

sorry just tuned in lol

LOL you literally did

my b

[hollow stone]

Haha np

[fresh robin]

guess i need that third ss, got a 385 helm from my chest

but it only has envenom trait smh

[hollow stone]

Oh the env trait. So valuable. Zzzzzz

[fresh robin]

its alright for pvp at least lol

[hollow stone]

Very true

[fresh robin]

kinda silly that a 340 SS helm probably out parses a 385 with shit trait

[hollow stone]

It would be close depending on your agi value i would think

[fresh robin]

shadow crucible rng all over again trying to get traits on stuff higher than 340

[fading spade]

Im having the worst luck getting ss pieces

[stuck shuttle]

340 ilvl ss pieces are easy

high lvl pieces are hard

[hollow stone]

Easy now that you can trade them. Stack dat leather group

[fresh robin]

340ilvl ss pieces are easy you say, i run m0 with full leather group, everyone needs the one piece i need smh

[fading spade]

All the best simming pieces are wq pieces

[mossy flicker]

now that sin seems the best rogue spec I'm attracted by sub spec, so strange lol

[fresh robin]

ask em befoore hand andtheyre like "WELL.... its bis for my offspec"

[opaque grotto]

Yeah bruh azerite gear is just an upside down netherlite crucible

[hollow stone]

Yea and you need insane luck to get a wq piece that is actually an upgrade

[fresh robin]

can wq azerite pieces titanforge?

[opaque grotto]

No

[ebon garden]

how much haste is too much haste?

[opaque grotto]

No azerite pieces can upgrade

[zealous lily]

worse than NLC cause you could farm for that

[fresh robin]

aye thought so

[hollow stone]

No amount of haste at our current stats is too much

[zealous lily]

a lot like NLC in that there are generally only 1-3 good traits per spec

[hollow stone]

Literally get as much as youcan

[opaque grotto]

Actually I hit 20% haste and it dropped in value

[ebon garden]

im at 17% atm

[hollow stone]

Below crit/mast depending on talents?

Or just below agi again lol

[fresh ginkgo]

Hope they change m+ to be able to drop azerite gear

[opaque grotto]

Below crit/mast

With exsang and EP talented

[hollow stone]

Dayyyyum. I guess the real answer is sim yo self then

[opaque grotto]

Always the answer

[zealous lily]

i would be 1000% satisfied with BFA if you could farm azerite traits in M+

[hollow stone]

Im around 18.5 and its still beating out agi

[midnight ledge]

u guys playing sin exsang atm?

[zealous lily]

i would stop complaining about anything else

[stuck shuttle]

@prime void pinging u for pinging me

[hollow stone]

Agreed @zealous lily

[zealous lily]

but having your performance and what specs you can play at a higher level totally dependent on how lucky you are in cache is very bad

[ebon garden]

i honestly think they should add azerite pieces to m+ and just lock the ilvl to the way they do it in the chests

[hollow stone]

Or some serious trait balancing which i dont actually think is possible due to "cross spec traits"

[stuck shuttle]

you can still perform without optimal pieces

[zealous lily]

that's alllll they have to do.

[ebon garden]

its already hard enough to get

[fresh robin]

@midnight ledge seems to be a question of if you have triple ss or not, i have double and tb sims higher

[ripe nimbus]

Yo mudda fkers just get laser matrix from raid and then what ever random trait u get for the 3rd piece I can garuntee you ur not going to do so little dps because u didn't stack 3 of a slightly better then laser matrix trait.. god I hate people

[tidal sedge]

so is it at all possible to get azerite veins as a rogue

[zealous lily]

well... i haven't been fortunate enough to get a laser matrix piece. maybe when I clear normal?

[hollow stone]

Laser matrix is another very good trait, yes

[opaque grotto]

Ya bruh let me just get laser matrix real quick

Mudda fkee

Fker

[stuck shuttle]

just do H Mythrax

ez

Kappa

[crisp steppe]

Kappa no Kappa

[opaque grotto]

I did h mythrax

Got the ring

Zz

[summer yoke]

Anyone around 352 Ilvl post up their raid bots?

[hollow stone]

Did myth and watched the other rogue loot it 😩

[stuck shuttle]

my H Mythax helm is the only Azerite piece i don't mind using to replace my 340 SS

[opaque grotto]

Did you get the 355 SS from pvp?

[stuck shuttle]

laser matrix so good for mythic prog

nah haven't capped this week

[opaque grotto]

Cap bruh it’s a free 355 SS

[summer yoke]

SS =?

[stuck shuttle]

yeah i have a 340 SS that would be nice to replace

[opaque grotto]

Shrouded suffocation

It’s an azerite trait

[summer yoke]

Thanks, the garrote one?

[opaque grotto]

Yep

[strange python]

When do I use galecaller boon?

On pull?

[stuck shuttle]

with Vendetta

or Exsang

preferably before both

[strange python]

aha

ok thx

[winged loom]

i switched to assassination recently, is hero rotation a good addon to use?