Crown gives +1E
#assassination
somber hill
!trinkets?
sudden brook
deep solstice
I imported from the SIMC addon.....then realized I still had not picked talents.
deep beacon
Was that just me or did discord blow up there for a few minutes
arctic venture
relics now just mean ILEVEL?
deep solstice
Yes discord died for me too.
open flame
so discouraging
deep solstice
What synergy am I not taking into account that is making insignia perform so much better now?
half timber
does anyone have a link to the pastebin thingy? or something on talents
dense blaze
Is the Raidbots enchant for rings actually doing 200 for a stat?
fringe ginkgo
Anyone automatically getting dropped from public chat channels on logging?
sage yoke
is there a trick to getting the hastebin links to work?
deep solstice
Have we made an in game community yet?
deep beacon
Hastebin link seems broke now for some reason
void pecan
rip.
zealous lily
use your hb when it's at full stacks and refresh garrote when it has 6 secs remaining after vanish
use other stuff on CD. think that's about it
ancient sonnet
is that with cloak and talent?
steep citrus
yeah
ancient sonnet
that looks hilarious
sweet rampart
so i don't have t21, i wonder if it will be more dps to break t20 4pc to use cloak lol
ornate gazelle
any changes between this morning and live? bis still cloak and insignia?
shrewd pine
discord is back
gentle pond
That's using the 2210022 build?
shrewd pine
whats the best spec BFA?
solid nova
Pins
steep citrus
yeah. he had shoulders on though
grim jay
whats best tank bfa ?
steep citrus
really spiked the fok damage
ornate gazelle
i read the pins lol
deep beacon
Good work ๐
ornate gazelle
i'm asking if anything has changed and not been altered yet
buoyant flicker
so is cloak+fan talent gunna be retarded until launch?
lone junco
@buoyant flicker I expect it to be capped or modified in some way. It is absurdly high.
but dunno.
60k hits from a 400base dmg fok.
buoyant flicker
if that goes live im gunna have so much fun
world pvp with flying daggers talent
civic hatch
its already live
buoyant flicker
hnnnn
steep citrus
just drop next to a stone with a bunch of people summoning and wipe the whole group with one fok?
hwo much health do we have now?
clever turret
fok can crit 100k +
rough yarrow
u can one shot enetire raids of tanks
rancid palm
im sitting at 30k hp right now. was 966 before patch
steep citrus
life
arctic isle
can someone actually link a 100k hit?
rough yarrow
it wont survive by saturday this rediculous dmg
arctic isle
my 975 on beta couldn't one shot a fresh 110 template
clever turret
uuh
rough yarrow
even if it dos 40k it still one shots everyone
deep solstice
My best so far was a 52k on the raid dummy....but I was only 963 prepatch
clever turret
I did 100k ion dung boss just now
talent nightstalker, toxic balde hidden baldes / equip shoulder and cloak leggy -> vendetta -> toixc balde -> vanish -> fok = 100k+
deep solstice
On a separate note, at 17% haste the rotation feels almost as fluid as pre patch
steep citrus
and that's without the pvp talent obv
exotic glen
@steep citrus the build doesnt work in pvp
steep citrus
?
clever turret
ye without pvp talent
steep citrus
wpvp?
clever turret
for lvling in dungs its nice tho
rancid palm
@exotic glen so cloak + hb is useless in wpvp then?
exotic glen
not useless, but it does only like 40% of original dmg maybe
arctic isle
but you can one shot a whole raid group 4Head
rancid palm
so did they nerf the coldheart leggo and fire mage bracers for wpvp as well? or are we the only ones that got shafted
rancid palm
ah so frost dk and fire mage are gonna go around and oneshot people in wpvp then.
steep citrus
oh i see, nerfed from 25% per stack to 6^ for shuriken. is it 6 per stack for fok too?
cloud narwhal
So, Cloak and Insignia are BiS now?
steep citrus
still that would turn that 100k hit into what? a 25k hit or so? can you just divide by 4? add back in the warmode talent...
rancid palm
you guys think we will get our gear from the mythic+ cache at some point?
civic hatch
yhe whats up with that
rancid palm
hopefully its just an oversight since they didnt give any warning to it. it is nice having the free 1000 essence on all the alts though
lone junco
@echo cargo mastery talent works well with poison bomb. But PB is shit now. So EP pushes to the top. EP buffs the Fok talent. EP buffs insig.
and Insig provides a ton of crit
exotic glen
its always been "good", just overshadowed by other legos usually
echo cargo
I mean it's always been good, but it never came close to touching bracers / shoulders combo
yeah
solid nova
???
lone junco
if PB is shit, then Shoulders drop a bit.
what you mean is: Most players didnt have enough crit to drop shoulders and utilize bracer/insig
shrewd pine
How best gear i plat assin and i kungbane wit vandet then it on coll down i wait for kingkill and vandet?
wen i atrfact boss & vendet kingbone cum ap befor vendat agin i wat fo kingbin vendat sam tim
so i wat all tim for artfact vandet up
sudden brook
holy shit
exotic glen
fucking what
obsidian loom
what the fuck
exotic glen
rough yarrow
amazing
lone junco
and if you jerk off to top bomb logs, You would feel like shoulder bracer is "best" even if it was a substantially lower avg dps.
exotic glen
theri pls
solid nova
Plenty of builds later into the expansion were above bracers and shoulders
Insig has been good for a decent amount of time
Stop blindly following mantle/bracers and labelling it as bis
fringe ginkgo
glad I held onto all these higher ilvl relics that weren't worth equipping
meager shuttle
anyone else running around 1 hitting people with Fan now with double dmg stack on it in pvp? or is it just bugged atm? watching others kill ppl in 1 ability
fringe ginkgo
hotfix inc
exotic glen
you havent watched anyone do that, since its nerfed to fuck already
grim sable
it's nerfed for pvp
deep beacon
Yeah i just got a 965 relic yesterday
lone junco
@fringe ginkgo I have some Ghost Shell relics. that i will put in.
rough yarrow
well we one shot ppl before prepatch anyway. nothing changed
strange python
true
fringe ginkgo
don't forget you can item restore your relics if you vendored them or de'd them ๐ฎ
rancid palm
oh fuck i forgot about item restore. wonder if i can get my haste gear i sold when i cleared bags
obsidian loom
^----
deep beacon
I always have haste gear for my outlaw build
obsidian loom
I just have to raid more. I'm so happy the meta changed to haste > crit since I had over 200% mastery pre-patch. Now i'm like... wtf do I do
lone junco
im going to go for 60%
rough yarrow
at least dropped on second place after that for me
yea i over did it with haste gear and was shit
rough yarrow
any log from US yet?
wispy bridge
huh?
sudden brook
yes
wispy bridge
fok dis
rancid palm
so we want ~15% haste then full on crit hard on?
rough yarrow
sim it
deep beacon
Apparently no regular M+ cache this week just a bonus wakening essence one. ALso World Quests 5~ 35 per
Class Hall Missions 10~ 20 per
Elite Strike: Lost Temple 250
Weekly Mythic+ Cache 250
Special Weekly Mythic+ Cache 1000
rough yarrow
nice warning blizzard for no chest gear
obsidian loom
^---
rancid palm
did they confirm that there will be no loot?
buoyant flicker
do u not get the gear as well?
rancid palm
no gear today in the chest
deep beacon
Yeah
meager shuttle
nope jsut a lego
dreamy ridge
no one got loot
patent topaz
good thing I was on holiday and didnt do any m+ anyway
deep beacon
CHeck wowhead first post
zealous lily
no one got gear. just the essence.
rancid palm
seems like a huge mistake not saying anything about no loot for mythic+ chest last week
sudden brook
its not that big of a deal
dreamy ridge
kinda fucking shit
rancid palm
i mean it is for people who spent time doing 15s on alts
dreamy ridge
exactly
rancid palm
when you get nothing for it but a key
dreamy ridge
log in to my mage to get shit all lol
sudden brook
unlucky
dire schooner
Did the fan of knives multiplicative bonus with cloak + talent make it to live build?
buoyant coyote
wasnt intentional. they said it was a bug with the new m+ system so they upped rewards to 1k essence to compensate the lack of gear
zealous lily
yeah it did @dire schooner
rancid palm
so they just said fuck it and gave every character 1k essence to compensate for no loot?
sudden brook
yes
rancid palm
even if they didnt to a + on that character
dire schooner
Thanks @zealous lily
rough yarrow
sounds like typical blizz
tender folio
Oh cmon
obsidian loom
can fiunally get the balance shoulders for my druid tankt hen, lol
sudden brook
you guys are making mountains out of molehills
deep beacon
Honestly though at 955 ilevel the last 5 weeks i got on piece of gear that was useful lol not cryin too much
obsidian loom
If I ever stop disconnecting
rough yarrow
lol entire internet is fucked cause of google
odd plover
which specc is the strongest one that i should choose tomorrow?
meager shuttle
whatever you like playing
if you like dotting stuff play sin. if you like burst single play sub
hoary copper
๐ฎ
deep beacon
I dont think most people are able to play currently
meager shuttle
^^
obsidian loom
dirty pirate hooker, lol
odd plover
yeah but i mean in dps. which is the strongest atm for this weeks until bfa is there
prisma cypress
i thought outlaw aren't pirates anymore
meager shuttle
the blade rush or KS is fun
keen spruce
obsidian loom
outlaw will always be pirates
orchid flume
So what we doing tomorrow bois
solid nova
Probably continue reading questions that make me question life
scarlet hawk
@vestal wren Have you by any chance simmed trinkets in pre-patch? ๐
tender folio
Are we rly going from mastery to haste ?
sudden brook
sim urself to find out
obsidian loom
it may flip flop again once we can break 100% mastery
Dunno atm
but haste = more energy and more ticks
hoary copper
Lol World 1 H Garothi is sin rogue
obsidian loom
etc
quaint sequoia
what trinkets are bis in prepatch
sudden brook
sim urself to find out
hoary copper
FoK was 355k of 1.44m damage
marble hemlock
hoary copper
No prepatch var yet, I would have been interested to see that as hes kinda just a dummy fight
void pecan
We back to foking, boys
rancid palm
nice edit there @void pecan
void pecan
LOL
scarlet hawk
Bruen you managed a 355k FoK, in 110?
hoary copper
2nd and 3rd were warriors...rampage damage is also crazy high
scarlet hawk
Can you link the log?
dreamy ridge
scarlet hawk
Ye
hoary copper
Thats why it was 355K of 1.4
hoary copper
reading is hard tho Tis
scarlet hawk
xD
rancid palm
im more disappointed that feint has a 15s cooldown and cant spam it in style anymore
strange python
cause i am bloody tired of relying on PB to get me a good parse
yes you do, for ST
hoary copper
I mean if you think you need to reroll for PB, then you probably should do
sudden brook
u dont right now though..
hoary copper
instead of using the correct talent
strange python
please remind me what other ST choices do we have apart from PB?
It also doesnt do enough damage to make or break a parse anymore.
distant hinge
poisons with haste application
hoary copper
If only there were pins that could tell you
sudden brook
PB is barely going to affect single target parses
strange python
afaik PB is the only ST talent in that bracket
sudden brook
goraxus why are u just not reading
haughty lily
What does ST stand for
strange python
single target
haughty lily
Thanks
ancient sonnet
have stat prio's changed in prepatch at all?
sudden brook
yes
strange python
Yes. Pins
hoary copper
someone have the headbanging into a wall emoji? may be needed
ancient sonnet
ooh cool
steep citrus
i'm glad i still played outlaw some. so much haste
edgy pebble
Will sin perform pretty well in M+ and Raids?
ancient sonnet
oh and anyone figured if melandrus is pog or nah
edgy pebble
dont want to jump on the outlaw hype train
grim jay
noone knows how anything will perform on 120 if you mean in bfa
ancient sonnet
no i mean in prepatch
edgy pebble
Ty @grim jay
ancient sonnet
i use it for outlaw already
tender folio
With these changes to Assa , will our 4set still be legit or not ?
fringe ginkgo
Not sure whether to just go second best atm. How likely is a hotfix to FoK "double dipping"?
grim jay
@edgy pebble tho I must say, feelycraft-wise, it looks pretty good. I mean we got some AoE stuff that looks quite fine. so chances arent all that low
edgy pebble
@grim jay Thank you
ripe yew
Hey guys can I still get my artifact mage tower appearance?
cyan vale
no
grim jay
@fringe ginkgo you never know, but its pretty nuts win warmode which is a factor that might let blizzard change it up.
if you are on EU, yes
๐
strange python
did the empty crown get changed
sudden brook
no
grim jay
well it really is empty now
strange python
lmao
strange python
what do you mean
main blaze
@strange python It gives energy Increases Energy regeneration by 1 per sec.
strange python
Well that's something
grim jay
it actually is barely something
orchid flume
Anyone switching specs next expansion, pirate looking more appetizing
sudden brook
1 ENERGY :OOO
exotic glen
"switching specs"
exotic glen
you make it sound like its an irreversible decision that can happen every new expansion
grim jay
it depends on if you are into that pirate thing. for me its a downer that grappling hook is baseline
strange python
huh
ripe yew
I think if you're going to play outlaw you should just play surv hunter ๐
sudden brook
what
sudden brook
wat
grim jay
surv looks unfinished af to me
exotic glen
please play survival TnT
ripe yew
Thats grapple hook and stealth with a different name
exotic glen
please stop playing rogue
solid nova
๐ ๐ช
sudden brook
fast nacelle
in the logs..
exotic glen
yes
solid nova
Yes
sudden brook
also yes
fast nacelle
im physically abused
solid nova
The state of prepatch
fast nacelle
by this cast timeline
exotic glen
optimal shoulders opener btw guys
grim jay
maybe its the magic formula for more pb
steep citrus
maybe he changed his keybinds and forgot
sudden brook
more pb
sudden brook
LOL
fast nacelle
ok
ripe yew
They should have made catlike reflexes baseline for sub
steep citrus
rune macro'd in isn't a terrible idea? if you die and get rezzed you don't forget to turn it back on
sudden brook
just dont forget
fast nacelle
or you just cast it auto
die..and cant recast
or on argus you die
and cant recast
but beside that yes its a great idea
maybe also autobind health stone
steep citrus
what's the cooldown?
fast nacelle
1m
orchid flume
Is it true that sub is the hardest spec ?
sudden brook
hardest, but not hard
royal lantern
it was a bit more complicated in legion then most dps specs, but they made it much more easy in bfa
orchid flume
Assa was so simple in legion and rewarding
sudden brook
really rewarded not falling asleep while playing it
royal lantern
sub was better in ToS
orchid flume
Lol
royal lantern
the t21 2/4 set gave sin a huge boost
orchid flume
I liked it in PvP a lot
royal lantern
(and the sub t21 4set sucked balls)
gleaming geyser
"what talents" "what stat is best" "whats op in bfa"
orchid flume
The other specs have so much cc Christ
gleaming geyser
๐คฆ ๐คฆ ๐คฆ
royal lantern
you forgot ยดยดwich race is the bestยดยด
gleaming geyser
oh right, get that 10 dps increase
orchid flume
Belf is the only race
royal lantern
the only race too gank until they rage quit the game yeha
gleaming geyser
PepeHands
orchid flume
Iโm gonna miss that artifact ability in my rotation rip
tender folio
Will we use Vigor or Mark of Death ?
hoary copper
Pins
steep citrus
what do you mean, "we"
deep beacon
He is considering himself a "rogue" so he's part of the team here apparently lol ๐
orchid flume
lol
Savage
Iโm hyped for that warmode tbh
Gonna be shanking some Alliance by the crossroads
obsidian tulip
can't get in, this sucks
deep beacon
Yeah was in had a bunch of addon errors and was unable to hit enter then the servers blew up and here I am lol
rancid palm
wrong chat
orchid flume
Rip
deep beacon
Definitely not in the wrong chat lol ๐
split veldt
am i reading this correctly? best stats for sin and outlaw are haste --> crit?
do we finally get to use the same gear for both specs?
full depot
pretty much yeah
deep beacon
Well for ST you would want haste though for aoe and stuff mastery so I assume youd want to have a few sets of gear easily able to be swapped to depending on the fight
rancid palm
rip mythic+ with no more gear swapping
gusty parcel
Later highest Ilvl should win
rancid palm
did the mythic + gear swap rule go into effect in prepatch or not until 120 bfa?
drifting cosmos
ancient sonnet
11k sim pog
sudden canyon
omg
velvet nacelle
so for those of us stuck at work like peasants, how's prepatch? fun/frustrating? funstrating?
misty remnant
is assassination going to be better still over sub?
bold hearth
How u at 11k
tender mountain
didnt it get nerfed?
misty remnant
i see , damn - thank you
velvet nacelle
@misty remnant prepatch is funtimes anyways, not really a time to be too min/maxy
expect churn
safe tusk
If you can get logged in it might be fun
fringe ginkgo
๐ฆ
velvet nacelle
@safe tusk really? that's not a good sign for actual release of bfa haha
void pecan
Patch day fun.
orchid flume
Lol
velvet nacelle
i'm hearing all sorts of "missed" number crunches, like hatecoil doing 2m on one of her aoe's
strange python
also the lava outside antorus
velvet nacelle
is that instagib?
orchid flume
Apparently we all getting 1 k essence
strange python
almost
misty remnant
thank you @velvet nacelle
orchid flume
I can finally get them shackles
velvet nacelle
@misty remnant all i'm gonna be doing is goofing around with different builds on all 3 specs to see what "feels fun"
limpid perch
thanks for the excellent new guide whoever put it together!
deep beacon
What's wrong with twitch not updating with mods it already updated lol
velvet nacelle
like google sheets spreadsheets with formulas so i can tweak stuff when i'm at work
quaint sequoia
damn us getting prepatch on day early, it has broken alot of my addons since I got autoupdate
misty remnant
i totally respect that @velvet nacelle totally agree
polar grail
Do you tho? Do you?
fringe ginkgo
Twitch just had to go and fuck up the curse client. Thing is garbage.
velvet nacelle
@orchid flume oh please tell me they forgot to scale the damage from the fireball
orchid flume
AOE bois
velvet nacelle
i'm at work for a while longer so even if you have to lie to me, tell me that
jovial vault
So would we fok when we hit 30 stacks or just when talent hits 20?
fringe ginkgo
I think I'm a GM now guys
sudden brook
welcome to the club dude
rancid palm
classic servers are up. wheres the guides at?
ancient sonnet
this is great though, the fok meme has returned with a vengeance
fringe ginkgo
It's hanging at the naming selection. I pressed enter and nothing is happening RIP
strange python
It the APL its saying that you FoK at 19 stacks
rancid palm
it only let me make a dwarf hunter. what about you @fringe ginkgo
orchid flume
Wait what the fuck
fringe ginkgo
orchid flume
Is classic here
ancient sonnet
ye
rancid palm
wont let me make the character either @fringe ginkgo
orchid flume
FUCK YES
meager shuttle
my servers just finally came up
fringe ginkgo
๐ค
orchid flume
Wow classic bois
ancient sonnet
2ez
rancid palm
release next tuesday
fringe ginkgo
I was able to log into my realm this time, but no characters are there.
So maybe we're close
sudden canyon
same
orchid flume
My penis is actually hard due to the classic wow news
I was gonna level up chars for bfa
strange python
that's not necessary man
orchid flume
But I might have to drop some thunderfury
fringe ginkgo
Probably won't see classic until 2020
orchid flume
Lando claims it releases next Tuesday
rancid palm
oh i just re read it, its an alpha invite
tough lantern
anyone in? or is everyone stuck on character not found?
orchid flume
Oof
fringe ginkgo
I was able to click my character, but now "Enter World" is greyed out
sharp plover
I got the server list to load showing I had characters to pick. Then I crashed :C
sudden canyon
help
sharp plover
Guys I think I'm finally loading in!
fringe ginkgo
I'm on the loading screen
sharp plover
GREEN JESUS LET ME PLAY!
fringe ginkgo
Should we change to dx12 if we're nvidia?
sudden canyon
never touched mgs4 after that
sharp plover
You have to I thought.
civic palm
dx12 ain't great for Nvidia atm
ripe yew
I heard something about that pars, did they nerf dx12 so you can't full screen 144hz?
sharp plover
noooooooooooo
fringe ginkgo
AMD cards auto set to dx12, but nvidia cards default to 11 with the option to switch to 12
sharp plover
so close but so far
fringe ginkgo
Damn, same. Character not found after loading screen.
deep beacon
GOt in also but stuck at characters
orchid flume
Whoโs hyped for Dalaran to empty out
sharp plover
I can't wait to be out of legion in general.
fringe ginkgo
who's hyped to redo weakauras
orchid flume
Imagine how smooth dally gonna be
sharp plover
Who's hyped to let other people redo their weak auras so that you can copy them later.
void pecan
^
fringe ginkgo
๐ค
orchid flume
Lol
deep beacon
That might not work though since mine are all original
orchid flume
I still need to prepurchase BFA lol
sharp plover
yikes
fringe ginkgo
Yeah I take a few here and there from wago.io , but for the most part I just do my own.
sharp plover
Too much effort.
orchid flume
Phantasm why now 110 chars
sharp plover
I want to play horde this time.
fringe ginkgo
Kind of annoying that there's no more fullscreen
Forced to use windowed fullscreen now ๐ก
civic palm
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sharp plover
Sargeras has all my 110 alliance. Tichondrius has a few horde 110.
tepid ridge
anyone still playing fullscreen? ๐ฎ
sharp plover
They took it out I thought?
fringe ginkgo
They did, today
civic palm
#off-topic is now every channel.
sharp plover
That feeling when all servers are (normal) now.
tepid ridge
so annoying to switch to other screens ๐ฆ
sharp plover
#ripvanillastuff
remote wing
its a direct x12 thing kinda gay miss fullscreen alrdy
orchid flume
@sharp plover im proud you playing horde
fringe ginkgo
So do the BFA lead up quests start next week?
void pecan
yes
buoyant coyote
yes next week
orchid flume
I think darkshore is available
short reef
why would u bring a sin rogue over outlaw
sharp plover
@orchid flume I was horde from vanilla till Wotlk.
raven locust
More dps
fringe ginkgo
I miss Legion's pre patch event. So cool watching all the people on flying mounts swarm from one invasion to the next.
raven locust
Yea especially with cloak+FoK talent
orchid flume
Jesus Christ org was raided so many times on my server today
The faction pride is strong
tepid ridge
tunning sucks it's prepatch only 120 matters to be honest
sharp plover
If you roll perfectly everytime?
fringe ginkgo
๐ฎ
short reef
thats true
orchid flume
Damn frost DK ass
fringe ginkgo
Where's GC when you need him to knock the pallies down. 
civic palm
That's all no context non-sense.
tepid ridge
strange sim, doesn't match with fuu's sims, (pinned in BfA channel)
sudden brook
fuus sims have no azerite traits
tepid ridge
oh
orchid flume
Do I 110 boost pally now ??
fringe ginkgo
tepid ridge
yeah
sharp plover
This incredible legendary weapons is trash now. So here rub this stone on a green weapon and make it shiny.
sudden brook
also lol
pulling the highest off simc isnt exactly the way to look at whats best and worst
orchid flume
Ret started from the bottom lol
strange python
Must be a lie if ret is that far down
why is the damage is in Millions...this is fake
not prepatch
orchid flume
Wind walker is fucking disgusting
eager kernel
did some people use raidbots yet
orchid flume
Such a broke spec
solid nova
I actually cant tell, who's trolling and who's just clueless anymore.
civic palm
That is why I stopped answering question Richard.
vestal wren
@scarlet hawk trinket sim link is pinned
orchid flume
Iโm saying In general wind walker is broke keeps rekting me in the PvP
strange python
Mizerok plz dont flatter urself, there are plenty here to answer, you are not the only one
orchid flume
I still stand there for an hour stunned while I get grouped on
sudden brook
how do u get stunned for an hour their only stun is legsweep
doesnt stun anymore
talents been removed
cursive dune
and fist of fury stun
sudden canyon
got in for like 30 seconds and got dc'ed lol
sudden brook
orchid flume
Fair nuff tbh
quaint sequoia
how much wakeing essence do u get from AP sources?
sudden brook
like 5-35 i think
quaint sequoia
like from WQ's?
sudden brook
yes
orchid flume
Bis for all
cursive dune
i have 350odd essences on my map
orchid flume
Yeah not gonna happen
exotic siren
civic palm
?
orchid flume
Nandayo
sudden brook
?
solid nova
@quaint sequoia
orchid flume
Whatโs a special weekly cache
livid crescent
So do we use the cloak/ring or are we doing PB for ST?
sudden brook
why would u ever do that
orchid flume
How does one get a special cache
urban storm
go to your cache today
void pecan
JFC.
civic palm
Reading is fucking IMPOSSIBLE.
orchid flume
Iโm saying in general
solid nova
@orchid flume
quaint sequoia
@solid nova nothing from end chest in m+?
solid nova
I can only show you what wowhead has
cursive dune
when you forget to do a key...
solid nova
Ive got the same accessibility as you fam
quaint sequoia
and if u have all leggos can u choose what class u get for that alt leggo?
sudden brook
no
urban storm
so i stopped playing in like february, what ilvl are people who kept farming mythic at this whole time
lone junco
@urban storm 982 ish
urban storm
new ilvl
sudden brook
975+
urban storm
i was 964
sudden brook
255+
urban storm
and now im 239
civic palm
aka yerBrain
solid nova
no just tell me
civic palm
Check the pins.
sudden brook
LOL
solid nova
Self sufficiency is hard
orchid flume
CheCk ThE pInZ
arctic isle
this is what you guys get for maining the easy to play spec, all the nubs in one channel
civic palm
Turns out I have come to the reason why some guilds supply consumables to their raiders.
arctic isle
it really is
strange python
can someone read to me what tisumi just said
fringe ginkgo
Yay finally in
sudden brook
LOL
sharp plover
@fringe ginkgo grats
fringe ginkgo
ty
sharp plover
now go get that free essence from your mythic chest
orchid flume
Go get the Bis
civic palm
Typed content is weird for some people sometimes.
solid nova
@orchid flume ๐ซ
sharp plover
swanky
orchid flume
Hahahahaha
deep beacon
Should we care about tier sets at all now seems liek the set bonus still active
orchid flume
Oi
orchid flume
Show us KJBW
sudden brook
"no"
slate harness
sharp plover
passive aggressive response
orchid flume
Word on the street was it was broken
deep beacon
@gusty kestrel blow me ๐
sudden brook
what
orchid flume
Someone was going on about it in outlaw
strange python
are you going to ask for directions before he does?
sharp plover
Achievement unlocked- Officialy logged in and playing
orchid flume
I just wanna replace my Artifact weapon with a green
halcyon tulip
55k fan of knives crit ๐ฏ
light kestrel
What happened to the BFA discussion channel?
solid nova
Deleted
orchid flume
Gonna stash them in the bank
light kestrel
rip
sudden brook
only fcool ppl are allowed to see it
sharp plover
@orchid flume Don't forget to rub some orange stones on it.
fiery nest
what hype
quaint sequoia
will there be any allys on horde lvl isles before maxlevel?
civic palm
Sometimes.
orchid flume
Dunno actually
quaint sequoia
wondering if u can have warmode on and avoid any pvp just for the xp buff
arctic isle
probably a few nerds
light kestrel
You're supposed to set up an outpost over there along the way
I doubt many will be there
fiery nest
you can avoid pvp if you're stealthed
sudden brook
and get the free shit
orchid flume
Iโm gonna make sure I kill every low level player I see
light kestrel
I'd say for the first week, maybe week and a half there will be little to no opposite faction.
orchid flume
Just to be a dick
civic palm
You are going to TRY to kill the low level players.
quaint sequoia
idiotic to have warmode give xpbuff and more wq rewards, makes me as a pve:er feel req. to have it on
sudden brook
u dont have to have it on tho
light kestrel
It's possible to be a rogue and not WPvP? wtf?
sharp plover
It feels so weird to have the menu bar and bags all the way to right of the screen.
quaint sequoia
even tho I absolutly hate pvp
orchid flume
Nerd
sudden brook
then leave it off
orchid flume
Why would you play rogue and not wpvp
quaint sequoia
@sudden brook if it gives me a adventage (xp, gold etc) I am going to feel obligated to use it
civic palm
Then do.
orchid flume
Then use it
sudden brook
then put it on
civic palm
You don't have to PVP to make use of it O _O
sharp plover
Not world pvping on a rogue? What're you a paladin?
sudden brook
nobodys forcing you to world pvp
orchid flume
This man doesnโt want to get jumped as a rogue
sudden brook
if you want the rewards, then be ready to accept the "downside"
civic palm
The rewards are entirely designed to offset the downside.
and if there is no downside, then use it.
orchid flume
PvE normies
quaint sequoia
its typical blizz tho to push ppl into pvp
sudden brook
what
civic palm
Yeah TYPICAL...
sudden brook
ur out of ur mind
civic palm
Typical... PVP LOBBIESTS.
quaint sequoia
mop leggo line, wakeing essence from arena and rbg
arctic isle
the rewards at max are to make u want to use it
arctic isle
so i guess it's working
lilac coral
in the class discord that has instant stealth and stuns readily available
sudden brook
yeah how dare blizzard reward ppl for playing their game in different ways
fucking disgusting
lilac coral
bro just hide
orchid flume
Fucking hell
sharp plover
I miss vanilla pvp rewards.
I used to be able to raid with my pvp gear and it be better than some tiers.
light kestrel
Why do PvP players have to engage in PvE to get rewards and that's fine, but the second carebears have to PvP for a reward it's the end of the world? I just don't get it...
orchid flume
I fEeL oBLiGaTeD tO wArMoDe
quaint sequoia
@light kestrel that is wrong aswell imo
orchid flume
Itโs really not worth it
flint pelican
killing the opposing faction is its own reward
arctic isle
pvpers had to pve in legion?
sharp plover
To be relevant in open world yes.
arctic isle
lol
quaint sequoia
@arctic isle arena and rbgs for leggo upgrade currency
flint pelican
open world pvp lol
orchid flume
WOAH
deep beacon
I actually just got a tempered egg of serpetrix in the last m+ and it sims high lol
sharp plover
I'm sorry @flint pelican did you not like owpvp?
orchid flume
Owpvp > raiding
flint pelican
I'm sorry @sharp plover did I say that?
sharp plover
You just typed a bland statement so I made a bland assumption.
lone junco
flint pelican
also, you don't need to raid to be relevant in world pvp
arctic isle
nobody else wants this
sharp plover
No you have to PVE.
sudden brook
i dont get why ppl are saying your forced to turn on warmode, or forced to do whatever
just do what u want nobodys making u do shit
if u dont like wpvp turn it off lol
orchid flume
I know @sudden brook the PvE bois are just salty
arctic isle
if you feel forced to warmode blizzard is doing what they intended
orchid flume
Itโs Battle for Azeroth
flint pelican
how do you have to PvE? Hardcore pvpers had higher ilvl than most mythic raiders
sharp plover
Which was normalized in openworld
quaint sequoia
yea well guessing they know pvp will die if ppl dont get pushed to do it
flint pelican
uh what? no it wasnt
orchid flume
Mans trying to bait
sudden brook
what are you talking about
fiery nest
this is offtopic btw
strange python
You're probably going to gear and level faster without warmode
civic palm
o _o
orchid flume
Can offtopic even handle this level of offtopic
orchid flume
Make the dream come true
scarlet hawk
What are people simming on the beta? Like. Have you guys tried to sim yourself? I'm simming 6.5k now, but not sure if it's fucked, or just because I've got way better gear than what is used for herodamage...
arctic isle
call it mentally impaired
scarlet hawk
then press FoK when that community is bigger than 3? ๐
sudden brook
not with scaling
arctic isle
yes with scaling
sharp plover
First month of pvp pre arena season was awful. If you didn't pve
arctic isle
my 350 on beta could kill ~320s in about 10 seconds
sharp plover
expect to get shit on
quaint sequoia
dont see why warmode need rewards, isn't the reward that u get to wpvp if u like it?
sharp plover
Prot pallys one shotting people in full pvp blues.
orchid flume
No one does open world PvP because raiding is more rewarding
quaint sequoia
then ppl dont really want wpvp so dont have it in the game
sudden brook
what
civic palm
O _O
sharp plover
wat
tough whale
Now people who dont want to war mode still have to do it to be efficient
safe fractal
I heard that the FoK cloak combined with Hidden Blades was OP with the pre-patch, but I'm not seeing how that's the case as it doesn't seem to be "one-shotting" rares as people claimed it would
orchid flume
Mans on drugs
civic palm
This is my fucking face now, forever.
sharp plover
I thrive on ganking in the open world as a rogue.
sudden brook
nobodys FORCING you
tough whale
Talons vengeance prepared me for bfa
solid nova
Bring back Baradin Hold
sudden brook
you are INCENTIVIZED
quaint sequoia
if warmode gives me a bonus to xp, blizz is forcing me
sudden brook
your an idiot
civic palm
you're*
sudden brook
u got me
tough whale
There are pretty heavy incentives to be fair
civic palm
:3
sharp plover
It's cheaper to make your own potions and food for raiding. BLIZZ IS FORCING YOU!
tough whale
10% xp and world quest rewards are hard to pass up, so I can see how people feel forced to do it
tough whale
Playing devils advocate
sudden brook
blizzards forcing me to play pvp bcuz i want the transmog rewards
civic palm
and if there is no downside, why even argue against it?
tough whale
There are downsides
orchid flume
It honestly isnโt a problem they just canโt PvP
urban storm
thats his point
orchid flume
As a rogue complaining about warmode makes no sense
sharp plover
CAUSE IM A NORMIE AND I ONLY LIKE SCRIPTED PVE CONTENT
arctic isle
i mean at 120 the rewards are not there because of the downside of pvp
quaint sequoia
so just cause I play rouge I must like pvp?
civic palm
who even is this?!
strange python
yes
civic palm
hmmm
sharp plover
I play rogue to make vast amounts of money pick pocketing
orchid flume
Because you play rogue itโs piss easy to PvP
sharp plover
and muh class immersion
sudden brook
like lmfao
royal lantern
how2rogueworldpvp: gank people that do some quest shit and just wasted cd's/are under 50%max hp
use vanish when you drop under 80%max hp
sudden brook
u act like literally 100% of ppl with warmode on are going to only want to pvp, half of the ppl are just using it for the free shit
sharp plover
I mean I might.
sharp plover
If I see you have warmode on better believe I'm sapin dat ass.
lone junco
ill be using it for xp bonus. or ganking people until the cloak gets fixed.
arctic isle
extra 30 ap for having warmode ๐ forced
orchid flume
Boi Finna Catch a Sap
sharp plover
^
orchid flume
Best believe
lone junco
rogue specifically. i mean. . but i wouldnt warmode on my other classes. esp with flying.
buoyant coyote
turtle shell op
orchid flume
Yeah fuck that
tough whale
Shadow priest + war mode xd
cursive hatch
threw together a sin set with my outlaw stuff with insignia + cloak. Hope it works well lol
orchid flume
Imagine warmode on a healer
tough whale
Imagine leveling as a healer in the first place
fiery nest
^
sharp plover
Imagine having to holy smite mobs.
fiery nest
imagine leveling thru dungeons only
tough whale
So you can hit 120
orchid flume
๐๐
quaint sequoia
imagine leveling an alt and wanting that sweet xp bonus and getting raped by maxlevel gankers
tough whale
Cause ur rep gated
strange python
imagine talking about this in a channel called #assassination
arctic isle
imagine going to leveling zones just to gank lowbies
sharp plover
Imagine having over 100% bonus xp and being upset about 10% more.
fiery nest
alt
orchid flume
@strange python ๐๐๐
quaint sequoia
@tough whale so u mean if I want warmode on for wq I dont only need to worry about 120's?
civic palm
you're^
orchid flume
*youre
civic palm
:3
sharp plover
I can link you the wow leveling discord if you need it.
ripe yew
What do you guys think of warmode disabling flying?
royal lantern
nobody would use it then
arctic isle
you can get an item to dismount people
quaint sequoia
so pve is not war?
ripe yew
I would
royal lantern
well, you and 6 other people
ripe yew
Yea well I would get 10% more xp
royal lantern
because 10%exp is better then flying
orchid flume
The game at its core is Horde vs Alliance vs Random plot threat
ripe yew
Gank people in warmode
void pecan
Where's Don when we need him..
lone junco
afk a week. bbl
orchid flume
Loot thieves
void pecan
^ same.
heavy thunder
stfu
tranquil birch
ughh wa are broken
ornate gazelle
can't log in yet, which trinkets are amazing? haven't seen a trinket sim floating around anywhere yet
civic palm
Check the normal places.
thick perch
so do i get the lego ring or the cloak first if i dont have either, i literally only have the ...shoulders and bracers and sadly i wanna keep using them lol
civic palm
Sim yourself O _O
strange python
Do you have to put in the high Ilvl relics before prepatch hits or afterwards is fine ?
civic palm
O _O
manic vigil
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
civic palm
You should be able to use them whenever.
strange python
Thanks @civic palm just came home and want sure if have to do that right now or if itโs okay tomorrow ๐
civic palm
Yeah, things are going to be weird for a bit.
strange python
Oh damn Iโll turn on my pc then and do it ๐
civic palm
and people wondered why we didn't get the BfA quest chain NOW.
lone junco
@sacred citrus slow as snot ?
sacred citrus
hrm?
i am trying to figure out what fuu's builds are
and idk how to rogue anymore
placid egret
Is anyone elses Toxic Blade WA broken?
placid egret
cry
lone junco
just get haste to like 10% then recheck weights.
sacred citrus
wait i am a fool
lone junco
it doesnt stay top for long
sacred citrus
i have all my outlaw gear
lone junco
yeah, crit haste.
sacred citrus
so in the pastebin guide 0 = take w/e?
cobalt basin
Hey guys, what do you think the best assassin leggo is rn?
lone junco
yeah. cheat death etc.
sacred citrus
kk
iron wire seems cool
for letting tanks get active midigation up
mitigation*
civic palm
sacred citrus
i don't get hot TB is best atm