someone has working wa's for bfa eta ? rup timer, tb timer, stuff like that ?
#assassination
serene elbow
fallow estuary
Sunday is testraid for my Guild.. EVERY SINGLE MEMBER has a key but me :c
Titanslayer since like 3 or 4 months - feels bad man with a gun
serene elbow
lul thought every titanslayer would get one ? at least we all got, wanna raid etst tonight, playing around with ui on beta feelsbadman
serene elbow
xD
strange python
I dunno, I've never done mythic raiding and have been in alpha since almost the beginning
so idk if it has anything to do with raid achieves, all I ever get is AOTC each tier
dire spoke
Beta was completely random
lone junco
@gusty kestrel lol in the dinosaur pyramid we pulled like 40 fear raptors at once. Mark CT was a god
dire spoke
I'm 10/11 and got beta ... people who just logged back in the game after a year got beta π€·π»
strange python
I've been in every wow beta since wotlk. I just figured it's cause I actually do feedback and stuff
@dire spoke well they sent out TONS more keys when it went beta, there were a lot less folks in Alpha
its kind of annoying, trade chat went from helpful, to shit
overnight
wise frigate
I'm with you Giggle.
viscid helm
boosted
dire spoke
poor Giggle 
fallow estuary
π
safe matrix
and you get access to your pvp skills
dire spoke
how dumb is this
safe matrix
I mean it adds a trade off
if there wasn't the benefit, there wouldn't be that many people opting in
its a risk/reward
viscid helm
no risk tho
since u can level to 120 in 2 faction specific zones
just dont pick outlaw cos it has basically 0 useful pvp talents
while sub/sin actually gonna speed up leveling
safe matrix
I really miss the fiesta that was gorgrond
echo estuary
risk comes from not knowing what you're doing
safe matrix
alliance and horde levelling in the same zone at the same level, isntead of this pick your own order broken isle shit
i liked equal opportunity levelling pvp
echo estuary
what is the cd on orb?
echo estuary
how come that it is so far ahead?
viscid helm
sure but they arent big
echo estuary
ebon 3%, lol
strange python
creeping venom tooltip got me excited, it says 1.2 million over 6 seconds, but it's just a tooltip error
viscid helm
Unholy for example looks pretty dumb lol
you can pick the 2 auras
and then another disease
ye and increased magical dmg taken
15% health every 2s
desert warren
hey dudes whats the priority for Shivarras: keep up rupture on second target or T21 set bonus
strange fulcrum
what is a good guide to take on the mage tower, just came to assassination after using sub for awhile lol
supple hearth
wowhead.
can probably do it in like 10 tries max tho without a guide its like 90% mechanics
lone junco
@strange fulcrum rupture all 3. pick up the explosive orbs. when the one guy metas. blind him and move away. kidney the Whirlwind. and kick the caster.
supple hearth
just dodge stuff and u win
lone junco
first time you dont explode to orbs you will win
lavish venture
it's like 99% mechanics lol
there's a decent youtube video that shows you all the mechanics just search it
viscid helm
man these pvp talents seem to be absolute shit in general
fire/frost decent
sub/sin decent
UH good
rest seem really fucking bad
marble hemlock
what do you mean, bigger fok aoe 
wise frigate
marble hemlock
yup
creeping venom is actually pretty nice
just 1cp envenom targets
and kite
you kite in circles
obviously
viscid helm
i mean
marble hemlock
can you oneshot people
viscid helm
just play MP and leeching
marble hemlock
with hidden blades maxstack
viscid helm
cant die
marble hemlock
well, can just level with the hov trinket that gives MS after a kill
marble hemlock
cant oneshot people with when youre not wearing cape tho
viscid helm
running faster than mounted people
then just make another item set to have pants
so when u drop combat u heal to full
safe matrix
the plate boots, aggramars stride
one of our palys has a speed set with them
and he's so fucking fast
like actually mounted speeds
marble hemlock
thats because plate-classes dont have their bonusspeed from speedrating capped at 19%
dont need healing when leveling
when youre not playing bfa π€
marble hemlock
wat
echo estuary
i wish i could be excited for BfA as flowi
lethal heart
rofl
viscid helm
stark heart
I had no color before it was mainstream
safe matrix
tch
it shows up differently on my phone
everyone is white there
except the outlaw peeps
strange python
cant wait for first raid of BFA to have 12 demo locks in every group
and 3 hunters and no other dps
viscid helm
you choose beta
sharp viper
need a demon hunter to apply the 5% more magic dmg debuff
lilac osprey
easy question but new rogue.....is stealth walking speed as fast as unstealthed walking speed? Also with nightstalker talent pick do I walk faster stealthed then unstealthed?
zinc elbow
It is as fast as normal walking speed; prowl used to be reduced by 30% but i believe it was taken away when combat glyphs were removed.
devout sage
quick question here, Do you maintain Surge of toxins or maintain the envenom buff?.. Very confused
civic palm
Surge will come with Envenom, focus on keeping Envenom up.
devout sage
So when opening maintain envenom buff instead of SoT... Ive been trying to maintain SoT
civic palm
The opener with shoulders is GCD locked as it is, no point in trying to maintain something when you've important abilities to cast.
Well, there's like... .5 seconds before the Vanish but it's rather locked.
devout sage
Time to figure this out, Thank you Mizerok
sharp viper
sot does not work with pandemic, envenom buff works with the pandemic mechanic (previous duration of buff/debuff will be added onto newer application of said buff/debuff tilll up to 30% of the newly applied duration)
strange python
on beta, with hidden blades and nightstalker, do you want to open with fok
civic palm
Probably.
Unless there is an add coming up within the first - I guess - 10 to 20 seconds of the fight.
strange python
Does fetid devourer take more damage over time? my damage seemed to slowly ramp upwards
strange python
hope that fight becomes more interesting on normal
strange python
MOTHER was fun with no one knowing what to do
viscid helm
ok..
arctic pine
hey guys! so, I started playing rogue just a week ago and I managed to create an assassination priority on weak auras (I know it isnt needed once you mastery the class, but as I said, I just started playing rogue a week ago), its not perfect but I think its functional... Im sharing it with you guys so you can help me to improve it, here it is: https://wago.io/Byw4bRNAM
maybe already exists something like it and better than mine, but i sincerely didnt find it
shrewd night
Its pinned right here in this very channel tho
Or well, weakauras yes, but why would you need rotationhelp on such a simple spec
strange python
There's some depth to the spec that unfortunately a rotation helper probably can't get into anyway
@arctic pine it's not bad!
I did actually try it and I think it's perfectly fine for someone trying to get a hang of the spec.
arctic pine
@shrewd night as I said, just started playing rogue, its, idk, 7 years playng ret/prot and other tanks, so, it sure helps me a lol
@strange python thanks man!
lot*
strange python
If you are bent on improving it: it seems to want to re-apply rupture way out of the pandemic range (7.2 seconds)
arctic pine
@strange python yeah, thats because almost everytime that i reach 7.2sec on rupture (which I personally set to 8sec) i am without energy to renew it and so i have to wait some seconds to get energy and finally re-apply it, so the only solution i found was set it to 11 seconds, and that way, raise my chance to re-apply it in tiime or something near it
safe matrix
You can hold combo points
safe matrix
There's no passive generation of points, the only reason you can't is when capping energy/debuff and buffs falling off
tranquil silo
Forget about enchants and go transmog your gear
plucky slate
I really don't care what I look like
exotic glen
200 mastery om rings, 200 agi on cloak
plucky slate
Thank you sir
exotic glen
Np
fervent beacon
stark heart
photo of a screen in 2k18
civic palm
O _O
stark heart
you should've sent us instant kodak photo mate
civic palm
or hosted the image on TinyPic.
stark heart
pigeon post works
civic palm
Embed it on your MySpace page.
strange python
do i cd on tb
echo cargo
Mastery > Mastery = Mastery > Mastery
lost horizon
Garrote 3x in opener w/subterfuge?
dire spoke
simulated stat > simulated stat >= simulated stat >> simulated stat
lost horizon
What is simulated?
lone junco
Crit king.
exotic glen
no need to change the truth
spare cloud
exotic glen
as if anything else is going on
dark crag
what are my statweights?
exotic glen
think he was memeing
exotic glen
lmao how did i go from like rank 45 on WCL to rank 28 without getting better logs
spare cloud
others banned
exotic glen
ah shit what happened
exotic glen
initially thought it was because they removed AHC from allstar points but that doesnt make sense since my ahc is 98th%
exotic glen
ye, fuck that boss as well
spare cloud
Only need a decent hasabel and a decent argus then and I'm finally full orange
those 3 were the allstar ones still missing
exotic glen
tfw need a good coven but im too much of a wuss to just ignore adds
hasabel is easy enough if you're not doing portals
spare cloud
You can still get a very good log without ignoring adds
exotic glen
i usually use cooldowns on them to be safe
then they die after like 2 seconds π€·πΏ
spare cloud
Our other rogue got a 2,75m log while playing the fight like I do just better
Idk coven is by far my worst boss
I can't seem to get around it
thick ibex
How strong is Assass in BFA compared to the other two specs atm? π€
exotic glen
go figure it out and then tell us
thick ibex
strange python
yeah with the scaled up gear with 30% crit or so I was liking it
vapid moth
yawn
spare cloud
Xaethron ban when?
unkempt frost
hey
can anyone confirm that mage tower appearance will vanish in the pre patch which is like 1 month away ?
mellow pasture
I mean probably
They are like challenge mode weapons and armor basically this xpac
spare cloud
"Can anyone confirm" "Probably"
mellow pasture
Soon TM
spare cloud
trim dirge
Well we donβt know when the prepatch will release, itβll be on ptr soon though
Probably sometime July not June
pale saffron
does nightstalker snap to rupture?
drifting cloud
yes
devout sage
simming almost 1.5m and only doing around 1.3m... Feelsbadman
dire spoke
simulation uses a patchwerk fight
devout sage
Explain because i never understand that
wise frigate
Patchwerk = zero downtime, no mechanics to deal with. Single target.
IE not a real fight any more.
Closest you can get to that is Vari normal since the only real mechanic is sidestepping.
devout sage
Ohhhhh
novel island
Prepatch 1 month away....not.
little hinge
At 4.5 Mill HP, do you think I should use a Stam flask, or just go for Agility and Leeching Poison for the tower challenge?
nimble tartan
AHHH
little hinge
Struggling to pull 700K on Sigryn, this could be rough.
And apparently her Blood of the Father will break her out of Blind. Nice.
supple hearth
just get higher ilvl. assassination is like the 2nd easiest mage tower to do in the game behind the disc/ww one
its just a mechanic check
little hinge
I'm 922. I don't think it should be very hard.
It's really just the Runeseer's cast screwing me over. He keeps casting it either in the middle of pools or on the bade side of a valkyr rush.
fervent beacon
I'd just focus on killing the caster tbh to get it out of the way. I took out the other two adds first before bringing Sigryn down
but been ages since I done it
little hinge
I mean, I can't really focus down the caster since they share a health pool.
Caster will always die 2nd
fervent beacon
You could always just cheese it with legendary pants if you have it
bright inlet
Hey guys, could you help me out with my rotation? I've seen a couple online but I'm not sure which one is the best and I'm trying to maximize my damage as is right now.
What I'm currently doing is, garrote - mutilate - rupture - vendetta - mutilate - envenom - KB - Toxic blade
fervent beacon
Do you have mantle?
bright inlet
Nope, not yet
dire spoke
Did you read the Guide?
dire spoke
Everywhere
fervent beacon
!singuide
chrome tuskBOT
Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
bright inlet
Thanks
fervent beacon
There's the opening with non mantle
fervent beacon
According to your sim but the more mastery, the more damage output your poison will have
ideally you want at least 25% crit and no haste if possible
fervent beacon
But always go by the sim. Seeing that you have no mantle, do expect your sim to be showing crit as #1 until you're in 40% range
jesus, dump that haste for mastery
dire spoke
try harder 
fervent beacon
fervent beacon
But it won't matter as much in a month when the BfA changes come in and make haste 'better' by making our bleed/poison ticks quicker
fervent beacon
or rather have an outlaw set
bright inlet
Really? Haste will be the next main stat?
fervent beacon
dire spoke
No
fervent beacon
Well, haste won't be useless anymore is what we're saying
civic palm
Not looking like it (at it being great).
bright inlet
Ah
fervent beacon
Because as now, haste is completely useless for sin.
bright inlet
I see
dire spoke
raid lead be like BLOOD LUST NOW
rogues be like
fervent beacon
bright inlet
Sorry for sounding stupid but I can't envenom after vanishing 0-o
dire spoke
put it in your stealth bar
fervent beacon
.....
dire spoke
maybe
fervent beacon
yeah
bright inlet
I did
fervent beacon
bright inlet
I'm trying :c
fervent beacon
Well, you shouldn't be using env out of vanish if you're using NS without mantle
without mantle, you want to vanish then rupture.
assuming you're running NS
dire spoke
You're one of these guys that walk into the bosses face and prepull when in shroud, could that be 
bright inlet
No XD
dire spoke
love these ones
fervent beacon
dire spoke
I actually never shroud in pugs because you know, can't trust people
fervent beacon
Sometime for shit and giggle, I'd shroud my raid and the fury warrior always go up to the face, so I would cancel my shroud and watch him die.
civic palm
Yeah people have no fucking idea how stealth functions.
bright inlet
Oof
So since I don't have mantle after vanish I should go with mutilate and rupture? instead of envenom?
fervent beacon
Ok so basically for vanish rupture
you want to get at least 4cp+ ready, then you vanish and rupture
dire spoke
Did you read the Guide?
dire spoke
but you didn't read it
fervent beacon
!singuide
chrome tuskBOT
Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
fervent beacon
ffs i should be smoking this bowl but im going to see why you're reading that
dire spoke
It has literally only one line that says if mantle use env
bright inlet
Alright, sorry.
dire spoke
Read the tooltips aswell
also passives
and traits
and then understand them
then come back with questions
fervent beacon
Don't be sorry, we deal with this daily, or rather used to lol
dire spoke
you can do it πͺπ»
fervent beacon
but we will be all over again in a month with all the new changes and everyone will be like guis is haste gud?
dire spoke
what's BiS talent 
bright inlet
Alright, XD
fervent beacon
But I probably won't be here as much anyway after the BfA patch goes live, im going to be playing hunter
dire spoke
blocking you rn
bright inlet
I'm probably going to be playing my huntard in bfa as well
kindred sedge
No worries im rerolling demo lock
fervent beacon
Surv is really fun and is the reason why Im rerolling hunter.
bright inlet
Exactly, to bad BM is going to be worse :/
They didn't even improve the spec at all.
little hinge
How come sometimes I stand in a group, hit Fan of Knives and I get 1 combo point, and then without moving an inch I hit Fan of Knives again and get multiple points?
dire spoke
Because FoK is not Shuriken Storm and it only procs CP on critical hits
safe matrix
Just get 100% crit and it functions the same π€·
little hinge
So always 1 guaranteed, and then it will give me an additional point for each enemy hit if it crits?
dire spoke
that's what the Seal Fate passive basically says, yes
read ππ» the ππ» spellbooks
(:
safe matrix
Also listen to zempapa
dire spoke
To be fair, you could think it's a ranged attack because spraying around knives and sh*t
but in functions like mut
little hinge
Sigryn guide I'm reading says there's a strategy for chain-blinding her to keep her out of the fight. But when I try to do that she just casually breaks it at a whim. Is that not actually possible?
civic palm
What guide says that?! Thought she had CC DR like everything else.
dire spoke
Anything that hits a target breaks blind, also applied poison ticks after a blind
or wait no, blind actually removes it right
little hinge
I'm not hitting her though. I'm doing pure single target and there's no poison pools out. She just removes blind when it seems she wants to cast an ability.
dire spoke
can't relate to that problem
warm parcel
However this CC has a DR
meaning it will lose its effectiveness and as such you can't just use it on Cooldown.
little hinge
That's not really the issue. But I suppose it doesn't matter, keeping Sigryn out of the fight isn't viable regardless.
dire spoke
you blind her if she wants to go nuts
dire spoke
you also can stun and kite the hard hitter until his "phase" is over
my biggest issue I remember was getting all the runes 
because of some ground effect you could not see them sometimes
little hinge
Runes aren't bothering me too much.
I don't know. I can get 800K sustained on the dummies with my same buffs and no drums/pots.
But I only average around 600K on the fight. And taht should be more since I'm multi-dotting.
Maybe I just need to focus one.
safe matrix
Focus one rupture the other two
cedar marten
no, when i did the fight i tended to have all off them ruptured and poisoned tbh
or at least 2
safe matrix
FoK applies poisons
little hinge
I don't know how that's possible for you. I barely have the energy to keep constant ruptures on one target.
dire spoke
well don't 2CP rupture
little hinge
I don't
dire spoke
little hinge
I have Vigor from the Shadowblade Ring, but I still find myself waiting for Energy to mutilate again, even with regular ST fights.
dire spoke
It's not a button spam spec
warm parcel
Thats how energy works
Its not endless like mana
Given you dont have proper legos and tier
itll be slower too
dire spoke
800k sounds like 920 just finished questlines rogue
little hinge
- Mostly LFR with pieces from Argus world bosses and Relinquished.
bright inlet
I just hit 930 on my rogue a day ago :3
trim dirge
I mean stats donβt really matter, itβs normal to spend a little time waiting for energy but you should be able to easily maintain rupture as long as long as you donβt envenom when itβs not necessary and use pandemic to your advantage
bright inlet
By the way, when should I exactly be refreshing my ruptures? ;3
dire spoke
~7s
bright inlet
Cool, thanks.
little hinge
Maybe Envenom is the problem.
Ass guide says "When both bleeds are up use Envenom at . "
What's supposed to be in front of the period?
bright inlet
Envenom can be a problem? 0-o
safe matrix
4+
little hinge
As in I'm using it too much.
safe matrix
Points
You aren't spamming it like you would evis
You mostly use it to maintain the envenom buff
The only time our really mash that button is during tb
But you want 100% uptime of envenom during kb
warm parcel
rupture is above envenom in prio anyway so envenom shouldnt be a prob
civic palm
kn = Kingsbane in this case.
safe matrix
I thought I edited it
fiery nest
how the hell does kn = kingsbane π
bright inlet
XD
bright inlet
Out of curiosity why does rupture take priority after building up combo points when you don't have the mantle leggo?
safe matrix
Rupture takes priority regardless of mantle
dire spoke
@bright inlet pandemic is 30% of max uptime, so it's 7.2s when you have a 24s rupture - same calculation for garrote
btw
civic palm
Rupture takes priority over Envenom in the sense that keeping it up and at a healthy duration will not only have a higher average damage from it, but keep your Energy Regen as high as possible.
Having it fall off for any amount of time is not acceptable.
civic palm
Yeah it's... insufferable.
safe matrix
Also it's the same dps per point, each point just makes it last longer
civic palm
Correct, so refreshing @ 3CP so that you can pool energy for an upcoming DPS window, means you don't lose DPS from the lower CP refresh.
safe matrix
But it has the same energy cost, so it's inefficient to cast it at low points
dire spoke
#after7.1.5talk
safe matrix
Hmm
I wonder if there are going to be certain point values better for rupture
Cause you might get that last tick in some
With the haste scaling
Actually wait
Rupture should have near 100% uptime it wouldn't even matter
Woops
dire spoke
hey weak, at what ilvl do you think the crit/mast ring from KG is worth more than the magic buff you gain from gnawed thumb? I can't sim that shit
I have a 945gnawed and 950 KG ring
safe matrix
See, atleast I can think things through ._.
dire spoke
no it does not sim it correctly
safe matrix
Even though I am just stupid
civic palm
RB does not SIM Gnawed correctly.
dire spoke
it's used on CD
civic palm
Bad usage.
dire spoke
which is false
fiery nest
oh
dire spoke
yeah oh
fiery nest
well im lazy and just macro'd it to vendetta π
i hear you need to use it so it's up during the last ticks of KB to be best
but meh i cba
little hinge
So I should only use Envenom if both Rupture and Garrote are on the target right?
fiery nest
rupture and garrote should never not be on target
dire spoke
@little hinge it's basically a dot spec with a main spender called envenom
but don't rupture more than 2-3 targets
bright inlet
Any good addons for managing your dots and abilities on a target?
or anything that helps :3
fiery nest
weakauras π good ones will highlight when you're in the pandemic window as well
i believe the guide has some, otherwise just search on wago.io
bright inlet
Alright, thanks
dire spoke
the moment when he realizes he has 5 buffs/debuffs to track
civic palm
I mean it's not thaaaaat bad.
dire spoke
if you spec into sin coming from sub it's like oh damn for a few hours
the sin rotation stressed me more than sub tbh
and you know how I play
fiery nest
i came from sub, sin is way easier lol
to track
just cause there's more stuff to track doesn't mean it's harder
especially with pandemic
dire spoke
I still feel like there is no real idle with sin because of TB+KB windows and the planning around with rup
after DfA with sub you just idle π€·π»
fiery nest
not really, you're always watching shadow techs, and planning ahead for your next dance combo
can say the same for sin, outside of tb/kb window you're just idle...
with sin theres no technique to track and plan around so its more simple
and rupture lasts way longer than nightblade
dire spoke
waiting for a CP proc is not planning, it's idle
safe matrix
I mean there's always something to do in sin
fiery nest
semantics
safe matrix
Even though it doesn't feel super impactful, it's just maintenance work
dire spoke
in between TB and KB windows can be just a few seconds while in sub you just have a static on-off cycle
which I find less stressful
I'm not saying it's harder tho
dire spoke
hope sub will be fotm for one tier again
civic palm
mmmightbe
dire spoke
with two more talents it might be yes
fiery nest
mop sub was so fun π¦ hemo, rupture, snd, soul cap, leggo ring
find weakness
garrote
dire spoke
that was WoD
dire spoke
ez
fiery nest
lol
dire spoke
it was funny to play but also it was pretty stupid because it just had all the things other specs had
trail heron
to be honest, i liked the way the talent system was in the days of old. i remember the original DK, for example, with not 6 universal runes, to power skills
fiery nest
yeah the old rune system for DKs was pretty good
dire spoke
combat didn't have any bleed and sin I don't even know because it was bad
trail heron
but 2 blood, 2 frost, 2 unholy, you could add 1 more of a type with a highlevel talent, and skills from all lines needed different runes
trail heron
say, you had a frost basic move taking a frost rune
and a higher level move taking a frost and blood, for example. or a skill using one of each
dire spoke
like finalfantasy monk
fiery nest
combat didn't have a bleed cause it was a pure physical damage spec, in your face and relentless
it was fun as hell
combat on mythic xul'horac was so fucking fun
trail heron
and i remember when EVERY rogue had 2 points into combat, to lower the cost of sinister strike
fiery nest
blade flurry KsP lined up with every imp spawn
trail heron
anyone remember when rogue had NO aoe at all?
dire spoke
maintaining SnD + having bleeds with sub didn't make any sense to me, the only addition was dance and this shadow clone
I'm glad it got reworked like that
trail heron
or when 'ghostly strike' was an 11 point talent for subtlety? to give that spec a builder move that wasn't locked behind BOTH stealth and 'behind'
dire spoke
backstab on gorefiend
stack on worldmark in feast phase ... uhm no thx
all tho I had alot more fun with the fights in HfC than Antorus 
safe matrix
Antorus fights are pretty boring tbf
dire spoke
yeah
in HfC literally almost every fight you could do something cool/special as rogue
besides insane damage :p
bright inlet
Just need to confirm something, envenom should only be used when both our bleeds are up right?
dire spoke
Assuming you care about the class and what you do, just play the spec for a week to understand which spells are connected
then your questions also make more sense to yourself
bright inlet
Alright
fiery nest
also read and re-read the guide π
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
civic palm
Well, read it once to take it all in, then go through it again once you think you have a decent understanding of the class/spec.
There might have been some stuff that you are missing.
and any inferences made in the guide will make more sense when you know what the things around surrounding those statements.
dire spoke
lethal python
regarding the crucible weights addon, can you have more than one spec's string imported at the same time? So, sin string for sin and sub for sub?
dire spoke
yes
civic palm
I think in the pullout there's a little icon on top
Click that and it should be obvious enough.
dire spoke
if you spec into sub your weights should be empty
civic palm
Yeah
fiery nest
yeah you can have every spec. when i hover stuff it shows sin,sub,and outlaw percentages
sharp viper
you can also add several different strings per specialisation
fiery nest
no u
bronze hill
Guys, do I still envenom at 4 CP+ with Deeper strategem?
viscid helm
Yes
bronze hill
Ty
bright inlet
Hey guys for PvP should I use the same rotation and talents outlined in the guide?
echo estuary
diversity boys
jovial kite
being fat is ok and not anymore unhealthy than being of normal weight
just be you girls
also fuck the bois
lgbtbbq girlpower bitches
normal plover
What is happening here
echo estuary
an exhibition of what vehement political correctness + cuckold generation does to society
jovial kite
thats actually a pretty solid analogy
normal plover
She looks happy
jovial kite
why wouldnt she be happy?
steep obsidian
the hell
coral crescent
zealous dew
π
viscid helm
well that sucks
wicked condor
Can someone enlighten me as to why top parsers in Sin use Nightstalker? How is stealth empowerement useful during fights??
vestal wren
vanish
wicked condor
but vanish has such a long cooldown
i dont see how its better than the garrote damage from subterfuge
steep obsidian
shoulders make vanish op
wicked condor
ah im not familiar with shoulders yet
steep obsidian
same
wicked condor
ah indeed
jovial kite
viscid helm
vestal wren
guys, be nice
wicked condor
sorry im new to rogue
wise frigate
No u
viscid helm
we are, no one here is being hostile
spare cloud
Read every ability first then and make sure you understand everything
if you have questions feel free to ask
vestal wren
i made a macro but it didnt work.
/cast kingsbane```
π€oh wait we dont have kingsbane on beta
steep obsidian
rekt
yeah i miss it π¦
and all the little perks
you miss cloak and sprint cd a lot
ma cd π¦
vestal wren
i would take KB over TB
steep obsidian
vend even
tb seems to hit reasonably hard on beta but im only 118 and have like hardly any mastery
i wonder when they gonna do another tuning pass
vestal wren
i assume they will finish all classes first
heavy plover
WoW tokens will only go up in price right with BfA upcoming?
vestal wren
sub still misses 2 talents :/
steep obsidian
like doesnt that mean that pre patch is a little over 2 months away
vestal wren
token prices migth drop a bit
steep obsidian
why would they drop?
vestal wren
but will go up a lot sooner to bfa due to ppl buying carry runs
heavy plover
i thought they'd only go up so i bought some and turned it into b.net balance for a race change in bfa
steep obsidian
peopel come back for expac and want token for their sub too
and buy expac with token
i regret not maxing out on tokens in wod that was a dumb move
only got like 20 or something could have gotten 36
vestal wren
well i wanted to get tokens when they where 300k each
heavy plover
I had 0 gold in WoD so not bothered
vestal wren
my gf talked me out of it, now they are 360k or sth :/
heavy plover
I think they'll go to like 500k in prepatch
steep obsidian
wtb 15k tokens back
i actually had more gold back then too
actually played the game and did carries in wod
heavy plover
How much is token on NA people are saying it's drastically less
vestal wren
they go up significantly if a game releases
also i assume they will go up bc. of argus sellruns close to the end of the xpack
ppl want to have cutting edge
steep obsidian
yeah its less on na
there is a site that updates constantly with the prices and has graphs
heavy plover
yeah i'm looking at it
just deciding to buy more tokens and if they double in price from now to BfA you can make profit by buying them with b.net balance and selling them on AH
heavy plover
you can it's just Β£7 more so hard to make profit
but if tokens double in price from now to BfA it's profit
trail heron
if purchased once, in the AH, they are bound to account
heavy plover
yes you redeem it for battle.net balance
trail heron
ah, using a shifty circumvention method
heavy plover
yes
which will probably pay off to those who invested in tokens when they were cheap
trail heron
its the rogue thing to do :p
heavy plover
:>
drifting cloud
token would have to go what over 500k for you to become breakeven
it might I guess but probably not anytime soon
sharp viper
so close to being able to play bleedy boi :/
sharp viper
why would prepatch stop me from playing bleed?
trail heron
keep in mind that a LOT of things are getting the nerfhammer
sharp viper
meh i only have 930 t20 pieces anyways
strange python
I prefer poison to bleeds, but that's just a 'flavour' thing anyways
little hinge
Does anyone have a video handy that could show me what proper debuff maintenance on an Assassin looks like? I've read the guide a few times but I'm still not sure I'm doing it right.
strange python
Just get a WA to show your garrote/poison/rupture uptime
keep them up, don't refresh too early and waste CP
little hinge
Right now i have it set to warn me at less than 5.5 seconds remaining on Rupture and Garrote so I make sure I can pool energy if I need to.
zealous dew
rip flowitwo
little hinge
If I have to choose between casting Garrote to refresh before it falls off and losing a CP to overcapping, or using Envenom and then hoping my energy regen will let me cast Garrote before it falls off, which should I do?
echo estuary
what happened to flowifour?
lone junco
During prepatch cloak plus cloak talent. Finally useable.
viscid helm
what?
this is literally the best lego
rather take this than mantle/boots or bracers
north basin
how nightstalker and vanish works with exang build? why people rupture after vanish?
lethal heart
because it snapshots
basically if you use rupture straight after vanish
you get +50% damage bonus for entire rupture
for every tick of it
north basin
so its good idea to macro vanish + rupture?
drifting cloud
not really
exotic glen
i heard something about a bug that if you press a spell to fast after vanish, nightstalker wont apply, not sure if its still there
just press vanish > rupture imo
north basin
fine
safe matrix
I don't understand why people wanna macro stuff like that
It's two buttons
TWO
BUTTONS
north basin
what about duration of rupture. max 36 seconds do i aim this number for vanish rupture exang?
or any number above 30 good aswell
but nice info about snapshot i thought since pandaria its gone
exotic glen
nightstalker is unique
civic palm
For Rogues^
little hinge
The guide says to use Finishers at 4+ CP, does that change to 5+ if I'm using Deeper Strat?
exotic glen
no still 4
little hinge
ty
void pecan
So did I..
civic palm
Nah, CP gen is the same.
safe matrix
I've never run ds
exotic glen
same liavre, but someone trustable earlier said 4+
daring cave
Hello, so im new to this discord and currently run Sin., so what i may be asking is Sin is best for PvE and PvP? any tips on it, rotation wise etc?//
civic palm
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
exotic glen
guide is in the header
safe matrix
daring cave
got it, thanks a lot
exotic glen
idk why but im not gonna oppose the guide-writers
civic palm
Not if you read the guide :3 Then you learned it all at once :3
little frigate
does anyone have a nice singed-fang trinket weak aura?
civic palm
It's up 50% of the time and you are not supposed to line anything up with SSF, so why track it?
little frigate
good point. thanks mize
little frigate
any point in tracking golganeth?
civic palm
Yeah.
vernal adder
no
exotic glen
no lmao
mossy vale
hey guys, I just wanted to clear a few things up. Do I prioritise envenom over refreshing rupture during KB?
civic palm
Depends.
mossy hazel
Don't let rupture drop, try to time it so you don't have to refresh rupture during during kb or tb
mossy vale
would delaying KB or TB be ok to refresh rupture then?
naive hawk
Hi guys, ~950 assa here, i'm simming quite average dps, is this normal for our spec? (1,375 mil), stats are fine
marble hemlock
for 950 that seems... low
naive hawk
'47 equipped, still
marble hemlock
jesus
void pecan
rip shadowblades..
jovial kite
nice bot attack 
now when mr robot reviews all the discords for toxicity next time
rh will be the snagger #1 toxic numba wan
marble hemlock
someone is getting the leather belt tonight
civic palm
I didn't even have to goad someone that hard to do it > _>"
Frightening.
Which is a rather hilarious overreaction.
jovial kite
what did giggle think that would happen 
tawny quiver
Sanity
civic palm
Rename #off-topic to #Mods
ornate aspen
ive never seen so many messages in under 20 seconds
civic palm
Just gotta spam more emotes.
Servers don't like those hook calls.
:3
I think...
my favorite thing about this...
is how people seem to think it's fucking hunting season.
safe matrix
It's nice to know we actually have 20k people
civic palm
haha
safe matrix
Instead of the same 100 that are usually here
tawny quiver
I used to main rogue in ToS.
I loved sin
But it fell off when I returned to Pally for Antorus
echo estuary
cool story
strange python
I don't even know what a rogue is
safe matrix
Sin is busted rn for antorus
civic palm
Also...
tawny quiver
Now i just play Sin in Normal runs and laugh at sub
civic palm
when #off-topic broke everyone came here > _>"
viscid helm
hehe xd
civic palm
and by everyone I mean the people that don't spam meaningless shit.
safe matrix
I mean assassination is basically the new offtopic
strange python
When things break, we retreat to ass
tawny quiver
I mean. I'm still a sin main of the 3 specs π€·
strange python
to put our head up
civic palm
There was so much fucking shit in #off-topic that it looked like bigot-bots.
strange python
Oh, #off-topic is muted again. lol
civic palm
Gonna be for a bit.
strange python
Got removed, the spam resumed, re-muted. lol
civic palm
Gotta get your π¨ and go to work.
It's interesting how instantaneous that turned to shit though.
severe nymph
That was a true revolution against the unneeded pinging ^^
strange python
This one amused me tho
safe matrix
It's a pretty common ping response
civic palm
TOO BAD @spare cloud WASN'T HERE TO SEE HOW MUCH PEOPLE LOVE GETTING PINGED.
safe matrix
Also with :pingsock:
jaunty gazelle
you ever ping me again and ill find you
safe matrix
@jaunty gazelle
jaunty gazelle
strange python
Haven't seen it before, only discord I've gotten @everyone'd on is Monk discord, and you have to purposefully be in that channel.
civic palm
Yeah.
safe matrix
Ye, giggle fucked up
civic palm
Video game Discords tend to have a News channel that pings everyone.
civic palm
Gotta test the waters somehow :3
twilit grove
Off Topic is now just gone.
jaunty gazelle
discord needs a revamp
strange python
quick! discuss Shamans!
echo estuary
trail heron
the @ everyone can also be supressed on a per channel base, i think. needs to be set up by the channel admin
civic palm
I means permissions are there > _>
safe matrix
Yeah it was just human error
spare cloud
@supple hearth good job you did there
jovial kite
it is supressed
safe matrix
Now giggle is gonna get the belt
spare cloud
I'm proud of you
jovial kite
giggle just went full sperg
civic palm
Coulda just checked permissions > _>
safe matrix
I think only admins can check permissions
midnight musk
whats the fun in that
civic palm
Now they can't see their monitor due to having their face firmly planted in their hands.
civic palm
Giggle better have done this ^^^
safe matrix
Nice sneaky cosplay
jovial kite
i wonder what this button does
safe matrix
I'm a huge fan
civic palm
There's no way that this completely unsecured button that says LAUNCH MISSILE actually launches a missile... right?
echo estuary
now now, no need to be jealous of Putins control panel
trail heron
if it is gobbo made, it will indeed launch a missile
a SINGLE missile, actually
beside it, there is a button for 'more missiles'
gaunt moat
People overreacting to the extreme, but it was pretty funny
civic palm
Yeah.
The speed at which that went to shit is legendary > _>"
I would like to apologize but only if people are getting DMs over it.
onyx falcon
https://i.imgur.com/mY4fgJj.gifv someone gif'd it π
safe matrix
ππππ
civic palm
O _O
pure moth
The amt of chat that isn't assassination talk... is real
pure moth
I noticed
civic palm
People are gonna be talking about it on forums that have nothing to do with world-ending implosions.
little hinge
At a 4.7M base, do you think I should still use Stam flasks for Tower challenges, or use Agi flasks instead?
little hinge
Agi it is
supple hearth
π± π
dire spoke
did Giggle ping me?
civic palm
Yes.
civic palm
Very special.
dire spoke
hΓΆhΓΆ
spare cloud
She said she missed you writing more
civic palm
Sometimes you gotta Mention Everyone to drive up channel activity > _>
civic palm
haha
supple hearth
@dire spoke sempai xoxo
solid nova
smh
spare cloud
Zempai giggle first child when?
civic palm
π₯
spare cloud
I'll be pastor on the wedding
civic palm
The kid will use the Onscreen Keyboard to @ Everyone.
solid nova
Depends on how good your perjovatives are
drifting cloud
spare cloud
Ryler is jealous
dire spoke
it will be #1 pvp clicking
supple hearth
@safe matrix hybrid
dire spoke
Gigglebb π
supple hearth
π
solid nova
π€’
supple hearth
Mizerok confirmed jelly
civic palm
I've an unknown amount of grilled cheese sandwiches to make tonight O _O
civic palm
Was gonna say, yeah but Runescape > _>
echo estuary
gotta get that str to 99
civic palm
The closest thing I have to jelly.
echo estuary
have you done vampire slayer yet TOPH?