#assassination
lone junco
keen inlet
@hoary copper 
shrewd oriole
lone junco
they didnt rescue the kid, they kicked him in
solid nova
@lone junco Heatwave summer fam
Fell asleep on a sun bed first day
Woke up half white, half red
lone junco
in the book an oompaloompa pushed the fatty in the pond.
credit tho. the Tim burton one was really close to the book
dire spoke
what the fuck
lone junco
@solid nova back in the day, I went to the bahamas on a sail boat. raw sun. kid fell asleep on deck, got the hard red burn.
dire spoke
are these mixed topics
solid nova
I know his pain
solid nova
I had to sleep on the other side, level out the burn
Then it died down and i came back about 7000 shades darker
shrewd oriole
I never get sunburnt
jovial kite
if we said black people are wack we would get banned
jovial kite
🤦🏿
solid nova
So I've got Perelman for my Russia visit, Tom for my Portugal visit and Toph for when I return to Munich
jovial kite
im tanned all year
solid nova
Great stuff
shrewd oriole
Snow tan?
solid nova
UV Tan
jovial kite
weld tan
shrewd oriole
ahahah
dire spoke
mystler streaming rogue alpha 
solid nova
😮
jovial kite
i thought zempai was banned 
gaunt moat
Last week a random old women outside supermarket point at me and said "YOU NEED TO GET A TAN!!!!"
#MeToo
jovial kite
oh nvm it was rq
solid nova
Old people privileges
dire spoke
banning me would be IQ10
solid nova
Zempai....rage? Blasphemy!
solid nova
I think he meant 100
lone junco
like a little dumber than normal, or potato
dire spoke
!ha
shrewd oriole
that's 
keen inlet
posting ot in sin
solid nova
SCATTER
keen inlet
posting ot in #off-topic
jovial kite
youll be humbled by all the asskickings you recieve throughout your life
static vapor
finally 6m health in sin gear... only 66 traits xD
obligatory "are these stats good for sin"
dire spoke
😒 yeah good start
dire spoke
not having deja, pawn and cruciweight installed in 2018
dusty wigeon
hi guys, new to rogue as i only played it at the start of Legion. Can i grab some help? 😄
solid nova
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
Have a good read of that mate, it'll give you a good basis for starting
dusty wigeon
cheers 😃
solid nova
Gather some questions and ask them after
lone junco
@static vapor you a dr yet?
static vapor
@lone junco i wish dad 😦
lone junco
dont give up. not much cred for "some med school"
sharp viper
what happened
shrewd oriole
I wasnt 6m on sub for majority of progress
sharp viper
don jose happened
dusty wigeon
ok question. when i get the shoulders and i vanish, can i immediately envenom or do i have to wait the 3 seconds to go into stealth?
keen inlet
You can act immediately.
dusty wigeon
cool
sharp viper
vanish just puts you into 3 seconds of "improved" stealth
static vapor
strange python
Wait, with shoulders do you vanish > envenom or vanish > rupture?
lone junco
@strange python SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
keen inlet
strange python
can tell there have been 0 changes for rogues lately xD
strange python
PK was amaze
lone junco
i didnt need the NSDP. but i sure did like fat pk in M+
rotund oar
@novel agaterayuu you want to use vanish on envenom with the shoulders
dusty wigeon
so i should aim for leggo shoulders and wrist for raiding? and what for m+?
also is T21 Nighthold?
dire spoke
lone junco
@dusty wigeon T21 is antorus. Shoulder/wrist
dusty wigeon
oki ty
lone junco
@Aelenin#6151 what is happening in you avi? furry stuff?
rotund oar
nah, use to be a feral, cant you tell?
strange python
oh, i thought that was a pic of his internet boyfriend
lone junco
Tigger didnt wear pants
strange python
anyone here on mythic aggramar? just wanna know what setup you use and how long adds (medium sized ones) are usually alive?
dire spoke
Vendetta duration
strange python
did you rupture one of them and switch to the other?
dire spoke
It depends how many of your ppl suck and/or use CDs on the first flame - I rupture the one everybody is on and use all cooldowns and dots on the second one
plucky hornet
220 wipes untill Kill, could do it sleepwalking after the 40-th
dire spoke
meaning, I'm not staying on the first flame
strange python
our raid started blaming the dps, but im pretty sure its the tank and small add strategy we are using thats screwing us up 😦
dire spoke
how can you blame the dps if to many embers explode
plucky hornet
yes - Zempai this exact tactic - I was on cc duty on 1 side, I cc, dot the main add and vendetta the second one and the add lasts 19-21 sec
dire spoke
??? CC
strange python
what cc?
plucky hornet
yap ... we cc the 2 side adds , grip the 2 mid ones in the beginning
where the tanks drag the 2 big adds
dire spoke
sending rogue to cc is pretty dumb
plucky hornet
well I was the logical choice because I pay attention and our hunters are sayin "hunter weapon" to a shield
I didn't phase my dps by more than 2 sec
I open on the 1-st main add wich everyone targets, the tanks starets dragging it out, by that time he passes my cc add , I cc it, sprint and move to the other add wich is my vendetta target
I feint + vial while sprinting and by the time I reach the add 2 adds have exploded on the boss and Im healthy as a horse
strange python
what cc ? blind?
plucky hornet
yap
strange python
and it doesnt get uncc'd?
dire spoke
well nice roster where nobody learns how to do one job
plucky hornet
I save shadowstep in case I get kikked outside the platform, If all goes well I ss to the boss after we kill the adds
plucky hornet
well I'm still 50-70m above the second dps on the big adds
strange python
so did you guys use ring of peace?
plucky hornet
2 rings
dire spoke
we use whatever we got on that evening
strange python
2 rings is better?
plucky hornet
I think on the kill we had 3 even , no as much push cds you have ... and 1 person calling them
prefferably the gripping tank
strange python
you offset the rings? or one after the other?
plucky hornet
offset, ring, push , I'm not sure of the gripp tank's reasoning but that was his show and took hell of a long time to learn it
dire spoke
it doesn't matter what add control other rosters use, yours has to figure out a single job 
plucky hornet
ya , that pretty much
strange python
so i got no choice but to sit n wipe until the tanks figure it out huh? 😃
dire spoke
you can learn double soaking flame rend
strange python
feint + cheat death? xD
plucky hornet
like I sayed , I had the perfect executiuon down at pull 40, could do everything without looking at timers and maybe even fall a sleep alittle
dire spoke
no, cloak
strange python
i use cloak to sit in the aoe cause its usually all over before we get into the fight at the moment
plucky hornet
I had cloack on every other "get out of the boss fire" thing and it usualy ligned up with my vendetta perfectly
dire spoke
your vendetta doesn't matter if ranged die
plucky hornet
if you are a rogue you are pretty much in awe how people die in all situations
dire spoke
you don't even have to run every time if ranged rend is followed by aoe
plucky hornet
range deaths were pretty anoying to ... main reason for a lot of wipes
strange python
right, leaving work time for me, thanks for the help lads 😃
dire spoke
feint CD will be fun
strange python
Yeah 15s iirc.
dire spoke
wait
strange python
I'm waiting!
dire spoke
alpha class changes are being documented and one can read them?
lone junco
feint cd is fine imo
sharp viper
feint is too strong without a cd
the only problem with feint cd is elusiveness being an awful talent choice and rogue being way squishier in pvp
lean hill
Huh? Eluvise is awesome in pvp
lethal heart
they should reward people for not playing cheat death
nova pagoda
if they make new honor talents i can see one makeing it have 2 charges
lean hill
Well it's probably broken now that you get permanent dmg reduction
lethal heart
and put lower cd with elusiveness
imo
well it's permament
but noone sane is gonna spam it for 100% uptime
unless certain raid encounter
and if you spam it 24/7 in pvp you're probably desperate already
lethal heart
most of the time people feint when they expect to be stunned
strange python
there's pvp in this game?
lethal heart
and bursted in generaal
which is great as its not mongo as dk for example
which can just use ibf whnile stunned because class fantasy xd
lean hill
You can feint if you just need to live long enough to hold off a flag. Or for your healers to show up
lone junco
in arena people keep it up 100% during defensive delays
waiting for cds
(some people)
lean hill
I feint when people try to kite me, if you can reduce damage you do it
lethal heart
i mean
you probably could use feint as just a filler
so you arent energy capped
really
unless throwin darts
lean hill
I mean with sin you don't want to be using it, if you get the jump and burst people they are the ones in survival mode
lethal heart
sin has crimson vial trait on top of that
lean hill
But it keeps you alive unless it's a whole group smashing you
lethal heart
which is pretty broken i think
lean hill
Cloak, evasion, feint, vial. Have fun killing me lol
lethal heart
crimson vial as sub is actually depleto
wait
do people play outlaw pvp
or is whaaz memeing
echo estuary
putting feint on a 15 sec CD is another brainless change in the myriad of brainless changes
lethal heart
coz he's like pretty decent player isnt he?
strange python
why is it brainless
echo estuary
because punishing people for using active abilities integral to survivability in arena and promoting passive approach (cheat death, auto bubble, etc)
is brainless
and detrimental to the game
lethal heart
yea auto trinket ROFL
steep obsidian
the change actually makes you have to time it for a pve ability rather then just be able to spam it again if you fuck up
lethal heart
autobubble is so funny
steep obsidian
spamming it in pve was a trap, pvp well i guess it kinda sucks for them
lethal heart
like not only does it reduce cd of bubble
it also
activates your bubble automatically
win/win
steep obsidian
losing that in bfa too
lean hill
Wont need to feint as much depending on who you fight. When they can't blow their load because of GCD it wont hurt as much having a feint cooldown. Time feint better I suppose
dusty wigeon
is the challenge mode easy for assass? anything i should know
lean hill
Don't get hit by the things
lone junco
@dusty wigeon yeah. Leech. prydaz bracer if you have it. Blind the Meta guy. Kidney the WWind guy. Kick the caster
dont miss the explosive orbs on the ground
dusty wigeon
ty
lone junco
turbid harbor
😄
vestal wren
good thing they remove pb in bfa, oh wait
plain thistle
well, they gave the option to remove poison bomb 🤷
its your choice
😄
we can all hope crimson tempest will be better 🤷
turbid harbor
and i went up for 1st and 2nd portal 😡
lean hill
That fwump sound when PB hits is my favourite thing in the game so I hope PB is better
Oh wait that's portal Haha
My bad
vestal wren
pb is rly great
vestal wren
you are basically on any skill lvl between "oh i am able to maintain 2 dots" and "oh let me macro play that" always
lethal heart
@turbid harbor rofl
how much were you praying yesterday
to get psn bombs like that
turbid harbor
ya
turbid harbor
we clear most of the lockout with alts allowed
so setup changes a lot week to week
monk has been top 10 on that fight pretty much every week
lethal heart
yea
its so hard to pad as monk
if you have someone padding
but if people let you do w/e the fuck you want
you're gonna fly
lethal heart
as sub it's do disappointing now to pad on antoran
because you kill the boss at 3rd pod
cant pad at 1st pod again
turbid harbor
i've never had a good ahc log
only time i get bombs on ads i get spammed with the grenade thing
lethal heart
probably tough if you do pods aswell
turbid harbor
pods every 3 weeks or something
lethal heart
last week i was going for sick logs on my actually both monk and rogue
on kingaroth
i was so ready to SMACK the adds
but we kill it 1 second before add phase
in both cases
sharp viper
too high raid dps? feelsbadman
lone junco
wait. you killed kingo before the first add spawned?
lethal heart
kingaroth was fun fight on progress
yea
i mean progress
like 1st 2 weeks
then well
you just outgeared that already
sharp viper
progress was face palming how people get randomly hit by the orbs
lone junco
yeah. once I got the dps spread in the right places
lethal heart
yea
on mythic i really liked that fight in the start
or like doing it on my alt in some shit guild
thaat struggled
but now when people have so much gear
it's afk fiesta
lone junco
heroic coven is still shitty for us. wipe at least once.
granted we are done for the tier.
closed up shop till aug
sharp viper
we have enough dps so all three adds die at almost the same time
lone junco
now we just run m+ and jump in dalaran.
sharp viper
even if people die you can outgear most of it
lethal heart
yea
it's only vari that still can cause problems
but its just tilt boss
aggramar can be annoying aswell if running scuffed setup
turbid harbor
got rank 75 imonar with 20 second dps stop waiting for aura mastery as well 😡
alts ruin logs
lethal heart
yea imonar looks impossible to log
really
idk you need people to speedrun bridge
i'm willing to take that trade for 0 wipes xd
all fine and fun in going for logs as long as we dont wipe for retarded reasons
shrewd oriole
kinga was one of my favorite progress fights
boss is a bit goofy character wise
I liked him
the fight itself is aight too
lone junco
No crit. bin
bleak adder
yeah 😦
lone junco
I keed. nice neck
static vapor
wow thats a spicy neck still
vapid moth
lone junco
source
plain thistle
mmochampion
lone junco
figured. was just being lazy, and wanted that link
plain thistle
its on the first page, its a content creator interview with devs.
lone junco
Raid encounters that require a specific class will only show up in Mythic raids.
grats
plain thistle
that already reality
🤷
so not a change at all
good luck doing mythic aggramar without a blood DK 😂
vernal adder
azerite is like ap anyway so not suprised
strange python
at least we wont need 778 billion azerite. even though it is relative. those diablo-esque numbers are just awful
vernal adder
and can you be done with azerite? unlike ap
strange python
well fuck my guild ripped 😦
vernal adder
and summer havent started
strange python
yeah time to look a decent guild 😦
shrewd notch
what happened
strange python
ppl vanished
over the last weeks
and no real good replacements were recruited so struggling to get mythic raid
only farming until aggra and not getting decent progress on him
now it ripped
vernal adder
I need to find a new one to when I come back well if I come back I guess
strange python
end of expansion lull
jovial kite
@vernal adder join k2
vernal adder
🤔
jovial kite
🤷🏿
vestal wren
well they will increase ap every tier
vernal adder
I'll keep that offer in mind slagg, I wouldnt raid thou just some casual scrub stuff every now and then
jovial kite
well then you can join as a social anytime ofc
and k2 (our 2nd raidgroup) raids only 2 days a week
vernal adder
what days?
vernal adder
ok, we will see. 4months untill bfa lul
jovial kite
yy
hoary copper
Meh I cancelled my account till then. Not much keeping me super interested. Not doing any content worth while and pug life has taken my soul
not that I really had a soul to start
sharp viper
you're in the negative amount of soul now
but i can completely understand that, i despise pugs from the bottom of my heart
shrewd oriole
A pug life is not a life worth living
sharp viper
i hate to pug on my alts since both of our weekly heroic runs are suspended
shrewd oriole
Same tbh
Need to force myself through heroic
Mostly cuz I’ll look really bad if I show up to raid shit geared again man
red flume
been away from sin for a few patches, any change in playstyle/rotation since nh raid?
hoary copper
Lol how does negative soul work?
I hate leveling and the new leveling system seems awful
@red flume SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
strange python
no more agonizing poison which means less focus on surge of toxins and more on envenom buff
placid egret
Rest in peace agonizing poison
red flume
so from what i gather we wtill got for ma relics, still run shoulders/bracers and the opener seems the same just an overallpriority shift towards envenom away from sot
what is the current % uptime we can reach on envenom/sot?
zealous dew
80.-92 depends on crit
lone junco
@hoary copper thats funny. I love the new lvling system
vapid moth
i just did an M+ with the most awkward build possible
does anyone have a +15 key i can do with on my DH
pugs are dead. only 15s there are ones being sold
red flume
lel
placid egret
You must not be looking very hard.
solid nova
Doesnt have 7.5k raider .io
placid egret
Lmaoing
solid nova
And 970+
vapid moth
nah i found one. but there legit werent any when i asked
civic palm
and Bleeding Edge.
solid nova
I saw a 3k for a +12 yesterday
vapid moth
yeah thats fucking insane
solid nova
Gotta make sure we do it in time!
civic palm
This is why not being a complete social outcast and 1.) Finding a Guild then 2.) Finding 4 other people in the guild, makes doing a +15 very simple.
vapid moth
youre acting like most guilds still have the majority of people playing this late in xpac
civic palm
I mean you need four people.
civic palm
and if there are not that many, and you want to use the guild to help you get that +15, leave.
solid nova
???
vapid moth
im just tryna get it done before reset
vapid moth
richard are you EU?
solid nova
Yes
gaunt moat
@dire spoke 
vapid moth
thats why
civic palm
ooo
placid egret
vapid moth
its 5pm here
solid nova
So?
vapid moth
so. none of the people that are usually on are currently on
civic palm
gaunt moat
if you've got some suggestions for new emojis now's the time
civic palm
Got 4 months to up our emoji game.
I think what is insane.
Is that at the end of Legion Beta there were 8k people connected this is Discord Server > _>
What are the limitations on the emoji's @gaunt moat ?
vestal wren
gaunt moat
like pepe
civic palm
I mean like, animated, size, etc?
civic palm
Unzoomed icons > _>"
open reef
coven down yeye
gaunt moat
yeah probably need a better version heh
civic palm
gaunt moat
so that's both animated and not relevant..
gaunt moat
i already got better version of these icons
spare cloud
lone junco
i just clicked the raidbots icon on their site.
it changes
could probably use the inspect thingy to rip it out.
but im not a web nerd
fast nacelle
kiss me
shrewd oriole
Daddy
plain thistle
🤦
nimble tartan
can we get https://puu.sh/zZLiI/285f8f5054.png
its called Sanger
when u sad and angry
astral sundial
just had my first day on argus, we are still learning phase 1. how do you guys handle the rage gaze? we have alot of melee so when the casts gets near I try to move away from the main group to his sideways and keep 5 yd range...but sometimes it can happen right before the cone, or some other melee that did get it is just rushing thru me. basically this tactic of mine doesn't seem very good but also not sure what else can I do : /
gaunt moat
@nimble tartan maybe if it won't have a background
shrewd oriole
@astral sundial we assign a position to each melee
Around the boss
When gaze is coming, people move to their spots
plain thistle
yup, more than 6 melees can get a little bit overwhelming
nimble tartan
@astral sundial i've done this boss on prog with 8 melee and basically u just have set poistions around the boss and it also helps if the rage person stands still for a bit
plain thistle
you just need to assign everyone'
shrewd oriole
Gaze gets assigned and you shuffle around to let the rages get to good places
astral sundial
@shrewd oriole good, I tried to suggest it but was kinda dismissed - maybe they will listen now that there is backup 😃
nimble tartan
its def way hrder just feely spreading out
nimble tartan
u can also just speak amonst your melees and come to your own spread positions
plain thistle
here, a example :https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/217699421650026496/415547008858849300/m_argus_melee_setup.png
my amazing paint skills
that with 6 melees
plain thistle
😛
astral sundial
the close one is on top of the boss and the two farther ones are 5 yd?
shrewd oriole
The close one is on the foot
plain thistle
thats just a general idea
https://wago.io/Sy6bKAWwf/4 , WA to help with gaze too
green = safe, red = not safe
plain thistle
WA + pre set positions = a lot easier to do the gaze
shrewd oriole
Cya in 3 weeks
When you wanna kill Yourself
Argus btw 
Well
It’s being nerfed on Wednesday
spare cloud
@shrewd oriole where you at
shrewd oriole
Só you’re fine
@spare cloud I’m uber int home rn
I wonder what the nerf is gonna be
My bet is either a straight up argus / aggra nerf or valor
void pecan
all phases hp % nerf
shrewd oriole
Like HFC
shrewd oriole
Thing is
plain thistle
😂
shrewd oriole
The info we got was
Antorus nerds
Nerfs*
Rather than argus nerfs
So idk
Valor would be poggers
I’d like a third legendary but I don’t think that’ll happen
plain thistle
you get buff by standing on death fog, it doesnt deal damage, just heal and buff you 🤔
lone junco
valor. to push ilvl?
shrewd oriole
yeah
We’ll know tomorrow I guess
If the dev info I got is incorrect imma look like a tool tho lmao
astral sundial
meh I really hope they don't nerf it
plain thistle
that you already do 😛
astral sundial
feels like I have planty of time to try and kill it as is
astral sundial
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lone junco
yep
astral sundial
getting cutting edge on the nerf reset...would suck
lone junco
we will mob through with like 15 people and get 4/11
I keed. we would never get past the bridge
60 wipes. guild disband
lean hill
That's not until 6, don't worry
void pecan
yeah was gonna say
lone junco
whew
void pecan
bridge is a ways in
lone junco
on our best day we have 19 or 20. we have like 16-17 that would log in for mythic. we have 12 that should log in for mythic.
lean hill
Just get some pugs!
astral sundial
time to recruit/merge?
shrewd oriole
I do hope it gets nerfed
It’s been long enough that the good guilds have killed it
Just nerf it so it’s easier to do every week
lone junco
we will recruit hard in aug a few weeks before live.
shrewd oriole
I’m tired of argus and aggra being as tight as they are
astral sundial
why? what is the benefit?
lone junco
its almost time.
astral sundial
that the guilds who havn't done it yet can conquer the challange
lone junco
they added valor for archi.
shrewd oriole
You had enough time to conquer the challenge already
lone junco
you have to grind valor. so its not immediate or free
void pecan
If you haven't/done it yet
shrewd oriole
You snooze you lose lol
void pecan
then yeah
lone junco
just dont get valor if you dont want it
void pecan
what tom said.
nimble tartan
Tfw my guild pre heroism at 8 seconds on pull timer
dire spoke
astral sundial
well I am playing for two monthes now
nimble tartan
Cause we push too fast now 😔
shrewd oriole
Then why are you complaining
If you’re late to the tier don’t expect to kill it before nerfs
??
Should 500 guilds suffer unerfed Antorus cuz some people were late or haven’t beat the boss yet? Meh
astral sundial
cuz I am not late? I am late for top kills, but I have planty of time to learn and face this challange
shrewd oriole
Youre very late for the tier
shrewd oriole
Well yeah but it’s still aids
Could legit sell like 3 or 4 ces a week
If this shit gets nerfed
spare cloud
shrewd oriole
Buy hearthstone packs
lone junco
@nimble tartan still 2day mythic?
shrewd oriole
lone junco
i mean during progress
nimble tartan
oh no i never was 2 day
shrewd oriole
2 Days two 11/11 clears 👍
spare cloud
takes us one day to reclear
lone junco
isnt midwinter like top 100?
spare cloud
when we have a buyer
shrewd oriole
@astral sundial I mean it’s confirmed getting nerfed so not much point arguing
spare cloud
if we dont have a buyer we suck
nimble tartan
ye they are
shrewd oriole
Next time don’t start the tier months after it released
nimble tartan
they top 10 in us
shrewd oriole
Dude
spare cloud
then not top 25
nimble tartan
which is like what like top 60 world or somethin
shrewd oriole
Fatboss just advertises on stream
lone junco
is richard in method or nah
?
shrewd oriole
And we get so many people
spare cloud
No
astral sundial
@shrewd oriole not arguing about the facts, but about the need for a nerf 😃 - could you please link it btw?
spare cloud
he said he only plays 3 alts
lone junco
ive chatted 2 of their guys so far. neither was richard.
spare cloud
thats less than method requires
shrewd oriole
@astral sundial it’s insider info, not live yet. It’ll be coming tomorrow most likely
I think there’s a need for a nerf
🤷
spare cloud
@shrewd oriole Yeh we have many buyers too, and even german only from our server
its insane
shrewd oriole
Poggers horde
nimble tartan
i think the only reason a nerf would coe through is because at this point in gear and strategy you have to do things that are unintuitiuve for a boss fight, like waiting 30 seconds in p2 for lust timings
slowing dps
lean hill
People are bad, it's not a surprise the market for selling that shit is large
shrewd oriole
Aggramar and argus rn are super aids to do
Cuz you have to stop
It’s just clunky and unfun
lethal heart
on argus
astral sundial
why nerf then? give them more hp 😛
shrewd oriole
Yeah
nimble tartan
naw u big brain lust at 8 seconds pre pull
lethal heart
i mean
turbid harbor
😄
turbid harbor
the pre lust
shrewd oriole
Nerf them so that they don’t have awkward timers
lethal heart
now we do at like 15
lethal heart
coz rofl
spare cloud
@nimble tartan we do that.
turbid harbor
we just lust start of p3
lethal heart
like thing is we couldnt reliably push him before tortured rage 8? without lust
shrewd oriole
I can see how someone who hasn’t killed the boss doesn’t want it nerfed
But really
lethal heart
i think that is tortured rage 8
shrewd oriole
You should acknowledge you’re a special case cuz you started late
lean hill
I haven't killed them all Tom, and I say nerf it
nimble tartan
i mean the boss isnt even the same anymore when u killed it pre chains nerf
and now
so it aint even matter
shrewd oriole
Most people still stuck at Argus are shit
spare cloud
tbh the fight is not even hard
shrewd oriole
And are gonna have lots of trouble killing the boss
nimble tartan
naw
spare cloud
Like I didn't die the first time I was there
and I suck hard
well I died, but I was supposed to die
😦
astral sundial
ok, but if they are shit why do they need to kill argus mythic? - they did 10/11, got it on heroic..
shrewd oriole
Tons of guilds still have like 400 wipes at 975 ilvl like
nimble tartan
i know guilds who got to it recently and kiled it within like the regular 200 pulls similiar to my prog in jan
shrewd oriole
How
nimble tartan
is just different pace
shrewd oriole
Cuz blizzard wants them to kill argus M lol
It’s in blizzards interest for people to clear the content
spare cloud
I'm fine with that tbh
astral sundial
but it's not mythic after you nerf it 😦
nimble tartan
it still is dw cutting edge is cutting edge 😃
spare cloud
at least it doesn't affect me
shrewd oriole
In 2 years
nimble tartan
if u get ce you're already in top % of raiders 😃
shrewd oriole
Who’s gonna look up
spare cloud
and its still only like top 3% at most clearing until the end of expansion
lone junco
@civic palm can you get the one with heart eyes tho
lean hill
People still stuck progressing are probably more likely to quit now due to frustration. If they all of a sudden can clear 11/11 maybe that doesn't happen
astral sundial
ye I did celestial defender in shit realm and it still gets me invites
spare cloud
Have you killed argus prenerf tom?
astral sundial
no one knows, no one cares
shrewd oriole
I mean
turbid harbor
i know of so many friends' guilds that are disbanding
nimble tartan
like my status if u killed m argus in jan
turbid harbor
even some that kill argus are disbanding
spare cloud
I mean it doesnt matter anyways
shrewd oriole
No guild killed it prenerf
lone junco
@turbid harbor dont blame them. dead game.
spare cloud
because the only guild that kills it as it hardest is top 1 most of the time anyways
nimble tartan
yeah i know hella guilds who disbanded after argussi
turbid harbor
but loads get cucked by aggramar or argus and disband
shrewd oriole
They reduced the hp% of p3 by 6%
spare cloud
so why give a fuck about prenerfs
shrewd oriole
250~
nimble tartan
date
spare cloud
No
nimble tartan
lmao
spare cloud
I was carried
nimble tartan
same
shrewd oriole
Feb 22
turbid harbor
i killed feb 15
lone junco
ghost buster
turbid harbor
was after chain nerf
spare cloud
@nimble tartan I usually raid at around rank 30-50
turbid harbor
and that was top 200
shrewd oriole
I wouldn’t call the chain change a nerf idk
shrewd oriole
It’s a nerf if you had little immunities but
nimble tartan
its 100% a nerf
fast nacelle
"university"
nimble tartan
it made the chians so much easier
shrewd oriole
I feel
spare cloud
shrewd oriole
Well I only pulled it like 50 times per nerf so I’ll take you opinion
spare cloud
Guess I'm not on university then
shrewd oriole
Your*
spare cloud
lone junco
epeen showing
fast nacelle
its harder now
shrewd oriole
Arguing that it’s good to nerf Antorus tomorrow
shrewd oriole
Had a game dev tell us yes
fast nacelle
cool
spare cloud
Splitting finally 
fast nacelle
finally splitting for mount
shrewd oriole
Full quote is “you can expect an Antorus nerf in the upcoming reset”
astral sundial
tom says there will be - I hope they don't do stuff like that on reset day unannounced..
shrewd oriole
?
spare cloud
My monk is ready
astral sundial
like at least give some time for ppl to push?
void pecan
Who are you?
spare cloud
for splitraids
shrewd oriole
That’s how they always do nerfs
lean hill
Dude we had time
lone junco
was valor for all gear or just a few pieces?
lean hill
So much time
shrewd oriole
All pieces
fast nacelle
wondering what they going to nerf. probably some hp and chain dmg
shrewd oriole
Dunno
shrewd oriole
Makes me think of valor
lone junco
those mother fuckers
spare cloud
Doesn't affect me
dire spoke
hp nerf would be nutty, no more dps requirement at all
shrewd oriole
I’m excited tho
fast nacelle
aggramar needs nerf
shrewd oriole
More boosts every week
astral sundial
ye the dps check on antorus felt preaty weak overall
lone junco
anyone running mythic pug NA ill go on tue. k thx.
turbid harbor
how would you nerf aggramar?
shrewd oriole
Argus has the biggest dos check
fast nacelle
remove all adds
turbid harbor
😄
turbid harbor
maybe slow the rate the ads get energy?
fast nacelle
5% hp nerf to the 2 big adds.
10% dmg nerf on detonation of small adds
slower energy gain small adds
5% aggramar hp nerf
voila
astral sundial
maybe i am only thinking it cuz I joined late
lone junco
just nerf boss hps by 10% increase m+ilvl cap by 15. and bump oranges to 1025
astral sundial
when ppl were well geared
turbid harbor
aggramar is already a joke
shrewd oriole
That’s a huge nerf 
spare cloud
5% nerf to scew with my timings
turbid harbor
that would make him a little cuck boy
lone junco
Ill be pissed if the argus trinket gets more clics
fast nacelle
aggramar is a joke?
IDK MAN
lone junco
I just vendored my weekly tokens
fast nacelle
i can send you vod of our last kill
turbid harbor
😄
shrewd oriole
Tyra vs aggramar
fast nacelle
we sold 9/11 mythic
then 1h aggramar wipes
then another buyer for argus mythic in 3 tries or so
turbid harbor
we don't sell
fast nacelle
aggramar without buyer took 1 fucking h
fast nacelle
yes
turbid harbor
yikes
fast nacelle
half of our raid is buyers
spare cloud
we need buyers to kill bosses
shrewd oriole
That’s a yikes idd
fast nacelle
fucking useless piece of shits
spare cloud
😭
shrewd oriole
Toph is a big buyer thats for sure
spare cloud
I soaked worse than the buyer
turbid harbor
LOL
shrewd oriole
spare cloud
because he had like 23 tries in the buy before
fast nacelle
we got titan buff with toph at 15% left
sharp viper
you are the soaking bitch on aggra?
fast nacelle
xDDDD
shrewd oriole
What class was the buyer
shrewd oriole
spare cloud
the week before
shrewd oriole
:om
turbid harbor
a veteran buyer
lone junco
10m 10m ?
shrewd oriole
What did he buy a second time for?
lone junco
or do you not pay until the kill
spare cloud
But yeah I honestly did slack while soaking
shrewd oriole
Gear?
spare cloud
I'm sorry
astral sundial
why do you need gear ifyou get carried?
spare cloud
spare cloud
I will get 2 rages anyways
turbid harbor
my guild's argus wipes happen when our retarded holy pala kills himself to a scythe with healer bomb
sharp viper
is the buyer doing dmg in p1?
sharp viper
and still too high dmg LUL
fast nacelle
soaking in p3
fast nacelle
actually i hope they dont nerf it too hard
i like 500k gold each week
for nothing
like you run mythic anyway
spare cloud
But we need 11/11 buyers though
turbid harbor
i hope they don't nerf it hard because i like watching guilds wipe to it all night trying to rekill
spare cloud
saw what happens when we dont have a aggramar buyer
sharp viper
we have to reprogress argus, like 8 new trials and 2 people who were not in on the kill
gonna be happy fun times
shrewd oriole
That’s not fun
fast nacelle
2 ids b4 we oneshot aggramar with buyer
we actually only suck without buyer
spare cloud
👋
fast nacelle
idk..lets see what happens in future
i see more and more guilds disbanding
i like it
more ppl to grab
spare cloud
I don't
sharp viper
worst part is we have like 6 melees now
spare cloud
I think we usually are 6 melees on argus?
we were 7 when I was in the first time i think
fast nacelle
6
shrewd oriole
6 is fine
sharp viper
problem is our remaining ranged players dont like to spread
fast nacelle
yes
sharp viper
so melees have to run a shitton
fast nacelle
well for reclears it depends
if you only raid 1 day per week like we just suck it and play around it
if you raid more anyway
sharp viper
but more melees means higher chances for me to get 4 buffs in p1
dire spoke
what is reclear
fast nacelle
who stand still
like.. you get rage
and the move after cone
and they are like so far away from camp
lethal heart
6 is 👌
spare cloud
I didn't notice that
lethal heart
more than that though :puke:
fast nacelle
that you literly either be afk or boss cleaves u
spare cloud
because I had rage and was on the left the whole p1
fast nacelle
i call it warlock syndrome
spare cloud
fast nacelle
after cone they move one big step
then start draining
no matter if they cuck any rage melee
turbid harbor
had to hug other melee with fear on orbs
instead of dot them then nuke boss in execute
lethal heart
best was
turbid harbor
and our strat has you lose buffs with rage yea
lethal heart
when we were running 3 melees on one of rekills
and one of them was dh that was dying in last phase
so literally
/afk one spot in last phase
since 2 rage sguaranteed rofl
sharp viper
we had the very same scenario, sebek
on our first and only kill
p1 was garbage for me since 3 rages on me but we had too much dmg regardless
civic palm
spare cloud
Mizerok up to day
sharp viper
wtf
turbid harbor
why does she have facial hair