g-gottem
#assassination
supple hearth
spare cloud
You caught me
gilded lark
Thats not low key tho
vernal adder
literally 
manic vigil
vernal adder
my jaw is broken
manic vigil
not low key btw
jovial kite
i mean st patricks is one of the oldest marketing schemes in the world
celebrate a faggit, sell your shit
spare cloud
Like christmas?
jovial kite
yes, just like christmas
vernal adder
thanksgiving
jovial kite
but there has been a societal reason behind it
to keep dumb kids in check
so they get rewarded once a year
spare cloud
Yeah thats for st patricks as well
jovial kite
pavlovs nuggets or some shit
jovial kite
no, its to suck you out of money for that day
vernal adder
im 26 and im a fucking idiot
spare cloud
Dumm ist wer dummes tut
manic vigil
Forest 
jovial kite
tophest tumph
vernal adder
want to make some shrimp?
manic vigil
hell yeah
spare cloud
I only watched that movie because I was forced to in class once
other choice was a german lecture
vernal adder
forrest gump is a great movie
spare cloud
Well I don't really watch any movies
manic vigil
only korean comics huh
spare cloud
And its one of the better ones I've seen
I just said I only watched it by chance
and i chose it over a lecture
so thats smth
What
are there even korean comics
vernal adder
korean comics? You mean rule34?
manic vigil
I have no idea toph 
jovial kite
fuck
spare cloud
No thats japanese
jovial kite
wrong channel
vernal adder
ping Flowi
drifting cloud
@viscid helm
manic vigil
uhoh
plain thistle
yay
manic vigil
he did it again
manic vigil
gilded lark
You forgot to tap your heels together
drifting cloud
its like 3am in land of the Finns hes probably not here 🤷
spare cloud
Slagg is still here
manic vigil
kek
drifting cloud
wait does Finland have that thing where the sun stays up for like half the year
gilded lark
That's the arctic wtf
vernal adder
thats during summer
drifting cloud
I wish
spare cloud
did you just assume his country of origin
drifting cloud
Finland sounds awesome
jovial kite
i know his country of origin
vernal adder
goverment is thou
spare cloud
pretty good assumption then.
spare cloud
I assume stuff all day
jovial kite
👀
spare cloud
if I was right half as much as you
jovial kite
i watch you sleep
spare cloud
I'd probably have good grades
drifting cloud
🤷
vernal adder
I mean who doesnt watch Ryler sleep
jovial kite
you smell good when you're asleep
vernal adder
let me link the camera in the wall i planted
drifting cloud
spoopy Finns spying on me
jovial kite
its not spying if its your fellow countryman 🤷🏿
shrewd oriole
I mean your char wasnt hard to find
drifting cloud
damn what gave it away
shrewd oriole
🤔
jovial kite
as it turns out i am the government
spare cloud
O.O
vernal adder
????
shrewd oriole
ye
spare cloud
Nice troll Tom
shrewd oriole
trolled myself
spare cloud
You still high probably
shrewd oriole
im dumb
spare cloud
just stop
manic vigil
"gay" he said
vernal adder
your mom gay
drifting cloud
if you wanna know more about me tomm
ask Valatari
or whatever the fuck his paladin is called
shrewd oriole
dude
dont tell valatari
but
his girlfriend is pretty kappa
like kappa player
I'm scared he'll leave if she keeps riding the bench
wait no I can make a gud meme
manic vigil
shrewd oriole
I hope she rides his dick as well as she rides that bench
manic vigil
zing
shrewd oriole
there we go
vernal adder
how do I ride a bench?
drifting cloud
feelsenhshaman
manic vigil
hard?
shrewd oriole
yeah man
shrewd oriole
ye I am
drifting cloud
how does that happen
manic vigil
😦
vernal adder
nice
drifting cloud
ok that sucks but why is a social in
jovial kite
drifting cloud
oh I see
spare cloud
I mean
drifting cloud
I dont know much about his dmg abilities only that hes good at looting aman'thuls
shrewd oriole
the social is a good player
shrewd oriole
nice double agent valatari
jovial kite
drifting cloud
cuz we raided together for like 2 years
shrewd oriole
ah
spare cloud
shrewd oriole
well I'm glad u dont like him cuz
spare cloud
ayyyy
shrewd oriole
I dont particularly fancy him either
drifting cloud
I mean hes a good player hes just fucking retarded
shrewd oriole
he's not even that good
prisma wind
Hey guys, I'm thinking of dropping my lone vendetta relic for M+, any rogues here have similar relic layouts for m+?
jovial kite
drop the hammer @supple hearth
shrewd oriole
divinefield is so much better
manic vigil
spare cloud
Stalker
jovial kite
hes in pull ten himself 🤦🏿
spare cloud
LUL
marble hemlock
you will want 3x malch+3x pk relics for m+
shrewd oriole
ryler = me?
drifting cloud
well how many socials did u have in on coven
shrewd oriole
like 4
drifting cloud
u have to be the only 2day guild that can pull out 8 warlocks out of their ass
shrewd oriole
3 alts, 2 socials, 2 raiders
prisma wind
yeah I have 3 malch, 3 envenoms (don't ask)
marble hemlock
yikes
jovial kite
shrewd oriole
it worked tho
jovial kite
ryler with the inside burns
prisma wind
1 shocklight, 2 mos tho
marble hemlock
thats nice
shrewd oriole
killed coven in an hour
spare cloud
Oh that was the dude that did m+ with us before
shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
but you will want to get malch+pk relics asap
spare cloud
Why is he a warlock and names his char divinefield
marble hemlock
at least for aoe dps
jovial kite
''we are a strict 2 day guild except when we raid 3 or 4 days a reset''
good memes
spare cloud
LEL
prisma wind
yeah I'm kinda OK with the envenoms just because of the ST factor/still useful in all situations
shrewd oriole
dont think we raided 4 days
marble hemlock
not having 3xPK is about 10-15% less damage on trash
jovial kite
''we are proud to be in the top tier of 2 days raiding scene''
prisma wind
woof
shrewd oriole
@spare cloud his main is a warlock
vernal adder
2day raiding guild, we require 3days of raid attendance
drifting cloud
dont forget an alt for split runs
shrewd oriole
was blake, went to divinefieldx now blake again
drifting cloud
🤷
drifting cloud
you did them 1st week
shrewd oriole
I dont wanna do splits man f that
shrewd oriole
idk I wasnt here 1st week
vernal adder
too stiff for splits anyway
marble hemlock
PK with 7/7 is about 12-14% of your overall damage, so only having 4 is going to be a fairly big dps loss
prisma wind
but yeah, the crucible traits I have are so good that it kinda limits my choices in the third tier haha
I'll hunt for some tho
spare cloud
we may use an extra day during progression
shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
but were not carrying on aoe dps anyway, even with perfect gear, so you should be fine
prisma wind
yeah I pug mostly and highest I've done is a 19
vernal adder
spare cloud
still higher than xaethron
prisma wind
I can easily do a 20 but ugh they're hard to find
marble hemlock
yeah, dont worry too much about having the perfect gear
those 2 mos t2 traits are actually really nice
prisma wind
I realyl want the 20 by bfa haha
shrewd oriole
I pugged a 20 with toph today
spare cloud
Wasnt my fault
marble hemlock
gives you free avoidance and more mastery, which is by far the most important stat for aoe
jovial kite
raid days: 2... (really 3 but dont tell anyone mmkay)
spare cloud
I did the 20 we played today with
shrewd oriole
we didnt raid 3 several weeks
marble hemlock
its less about ilvl and more about your stats
prisma wind
fuck me
primal tangle
Do you guys do high keys?
shrewd oriole
nor did we take attendance on the third day
vernal adder
I press buttons when I do m+
jovial kite
doesnt matter though
prisma wind
26% crit, 203% mastery, 14% vers
shrewd oriole
valatari refused to come to 3rd days for example
jovial kite
if you raid any more than 2 days you're shitting yourself and everyone else 
prisma wind
fuckin vers
drifting cloud
pretty sure you raided 3days for more than 3 weeks
prisma wind
yeah?
shrewd oriole
can easily check
prisma wind
I feel like I want more crit but
shrewd oriole
on logs
prisma wind
when PB procs during mantle, it's insane for me
drifting cloud
you definetly did mythic on wednesday (your off day) on mythic week
prisma wind
all the vers doing work lol
jovial kite
''guys because we are a strict 2 day guild we dont post logs on the 3rd and 4th raiddays''
marble hemlock
howlmoon, a few people here do highkeys as assa, myself included
spare cloud
nice coven wipes
prisma wind
I breeze through 16-18, not high but I shit on pugs DPS at least lol
shrewd oriole
coven heroic on 1st week of mythic 
prisma wind
BfA I want to focus hard on m+
marble hemlock
assa gets better the higher the key
shrewd oriole
it got ninja buffed
prisma wind
yeah I love it
shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
we generally benefit from mobs living longer
prisma wind
min/maxing crimson vial timings is underrated
shrewd oriole
this is entire first week
spare cloud
I wouldn't know
marble hemlock
and people no longer being able to do insanely big pulls that just get bursted quickly
shrewd oriole
wednesday (heroic mostly) mythic on thursd and sunday
drifting cloud
notice how it say heroic team 2 at the top 🤔
marble hemlock
once you get to 25+ assa is better than sub in most dungeons, unless your grp consistently does pulls that enable you to benefit from shuriken combo on every trashpack/bosses
spare cloud
shrewd oriole
yeah yeah
spare cloud
were you there when that happened
spare cloud
rip
spare cloud
who does that
spare cloud
well unless "mid tier" is
shrewd oriole
Ye
spare cloud
like right now
vernal adder
lot more guilds gonna die during summer anyway'
shrewd oriole
mid tier is like mid january LUL
drifting cloud
well they havent nerfed Argus yet
marble hemlock
gonna happen in 2-3weeks though
drifting cloud
some rank 800 guilds legit might not be able to kill argus
in the current version
drifting cloud
no thats fatboss
shrewd oriole
oh final boss
drifting cloud
finalboss is another guy
prime void
iam catch that
shrewd oriole
the neckbeard who plays enh
prime void
my guild going to hit 900
shrewd oriole
he's trash
prime void
calling it
drifting cloud
also if u check random russians guilds at rank 400
shrewd oriole
looks sick
quick talon
tom stop bully maybe
shrewd oriole
I'd join but fuck alts
drifting cloud
it says they all raid 5 days?!
supple hearth
!mute @drifting cloud
quick talon
go #off-topic
chrome tuskBOT
@drifting cloud is now 🙊here!
quick talon
❤
shrewd oriole
what the
marble hemlock
bye
marble hemlock
subrogue invading assa channel
jovial kite
why would you mute him for telling truths
jovial kite
shrewd oriole
classic noob trap
vernal adder
🇺🇸 ?
marble hemlock
Argus?
shrewd oriole
🇺🇸 is basically the same as the R word
manic vigil
wow
jovial kite
as a person with american ancestry i take high offense
shrewd oriole
@drifting cloud they stopped doing 3 days after killing coven
having obviously done a week off for xmas and new years
strange python
i hate imonar
strange python
its fun , i enjoy clearing bridge
strange python
dont enjoy being one of 6 people alive at the end of it
manic vigil
long execute phase tho 
strange python
me+the other rogue clear the entire bridge essentially in p1
because ♿ classes
someone still dying to balls omegaLUL
frigid acorn
If i ve to use 3cp envenom to make sure kb is bufed for the whole duration, should i do it? Or just lose out on a couple secs of buff uptime and make sure to not cast envenom under 4cp?
strange python
dont use unless 4cp is the rule
supple hearth
!unmute @drifting cloud
chrome tuskBOT
@drifting cloud is no longer 🙊 here! He/she can speak 🐵 now!
vapid moth
just turnmed my score to something above 2500
steep obsidian
if you want to push your mythic score next week is the week for it, dream affixes
if you can't do a 20 in every dungeon you just not tryin 😛
vapid moth
i could do 20 dungeons this week too people just dont wanna let me into their groups
i now have 3 completed 18 runs though and 1 failed by like a min
steep obsidian
yeah but people won't be as picky next week
sang volc fortified
this weeks affixes are garbage as hell rough on healers not many pugs
manic vigil
oh right next week is ez mode again
primal tangle
Tyrannical and greivous are my least favorite affixes tbh
vapid moth
i hate teeming
teeming and explosive
funny. over half my completed keys are tyrannical
vapid moth
i know
i didnt do shit that week
whats with the stigma that melee is bad in upper khara?
safe matrix
curator
vapid moth
people complaining when they have even 2 melee
i dont get it. one range can take care of all the ads
fervent beacon
Yeah, whenever I do it with 2 ranges, I usually the dps that does most dps to the orb
and im like guys, why the f am i killing orbs
vapid moth
range doesnt even need to hit boss. by the end of the fight i have 3mill dps. they can just focus ads
gilded lark
spoken like someone who's never done tyrannical curator
vapid moth
uh huh...
steep obsidian
one ranged isnt enough to keep on top of sparks generally on very high keys
15 isnt a very high key
on tyrannical i mean
gilded lark
no it's fine xae can kill the boss by himself
vapid moth
i was queing for 18. ive done a 17 with one range
curator hasnt been the boss that fucked my groups over
steep obsidian
if they are geared as hell sure and its an organised group sure
but if im forming a pug
no way id want 2 melee
vapid moth
weird
spare cloud
I wouldnt want you in my group as well
dreamy aurora
guys i got 930 comman and 945 fang, sims show 1k difference, should i just stick with fang or use command on single target
dreamy aurora
thought so as well, ill try them both out see how it feels, thx mate
spare cloud
Whats up
spare cloud
Ohh boy
fervent beacon
wewt, killed vari on 2nd night on him
Also was #1 dps for that fight as alacrity meme sin
spare cloud
Youre in the wrong channel to talk about target swaps
fervent beacon
Well, I'm running MP as I'm currently have 169% mastery
You only take EP if your mastery is low iirc
yeah im simming atm
strange python
alac 🤔
fervent beacon
might be EP pulling ahead
strange python
wonder how it is on imonar
fervent beacon
spare cloud
Better than bleed.
fervent beacon
just .5% ahead with EP
strange python
ouch
fervent beacon
so it doesn't really matter that much for me
strange python
im keeping up with our other rogue on prog but idk maybe ill try alac
you're using boots/bracers alac right
fervent beacon
Yes, boots/bracers is simming highest for me
and i just got 970 blood relic off vari, so now i can run 3 Master Ass
vestal umbra
Hey guys, curious of your input, say i got t21 head and back ilvl 925 (so 2set bonus) but have 930 vers mastery helm and 935 crit mastery back. Would you recommend using the t21 or stick wit the non set?
lone junco
yeah. thats prob part of the insig value
vestal umbra
I have shoulder and wrist legendary if that helps
gilded lark
sim yo self
lone junco
15% Mh, +oh? @gusty kestrel
ive seen a few with high sim of insig boot.
i think my simc had me at 74% mut avg. its really nice to string like 6 crits in a row
strange python
hitting enrage on imonar feels bad as fuck
i wanna go back to casual HC
idek hopw
how
well i do
vapid moth
just finished an upper 18 with... wait for it... 2 melee dps
fervent beacon
tranquil birch
all this yellow 🤢
spare cloud
I dont see a problem with being the same color as alacrity
strange python
whats the sim?
fervent beacon
I can't play TB after Alacarity 😂
strange python
shoulders pb pray was boring anyway
vapid moth
i just got my sub weapon to 75. time to finally learn
strange python
get hands or vigor ring and /sleep
jk i play it on fort weeks sometimes because the bosses dont last long enough for me to look like a shitter
requires me to think a lil ig
mainly hey dont refresh that its an exsang'd dot
gotta count the pandemic timer on the other hand
🤷
hard spec s2g
same amount of buttons as frost mage but 4x as fun
lone junco
what ever makes the numbers higher is better
lone junco
all the high crit builds are fine to me. 22/205 shoulder bracer is zz tho
sandwiches are good tho
lone junco
I have a naga, I could eat a sandwich playing most things.
lone junco
nvm. need that shift hand
strange python
thats my grief with getting a naga
lone junco
i actually spam 1 with my left hand.
feels better than on the mouse. all the rest is right hand thumb
SS outlaw broke the 1 key anyway
Started naga as pally. offensive defensive and heals made for a lot of key binds. and it stuck.
strange python
ok that makes sense. I just like the satisfaction of hearing my keyboard
makes me feel like im doing dps
steep obsidian
if i had my spam keys on my naga im pretty sure id go through 5 nagas a year
those things are not very durable in my experience
strange python
ive got a 4 button logitech thats really nice, but i only really use the buttons for aoe stealth tricks find treasure etc
steep obsidian
im tempted to get a logitech when this one dies next
strange python
v durable in my experience, ive had it for about a year now and im rough on mice
lone junco
im on my 3rd
strange python
hasnt started double clicking so far
lone junco
mine cuts out mid raid
supple hearth
I have trouble keeping a headset for longer than a year. I have two very broken 100+ $$ headsets
strange python
i think notter and I were talking about finding headsets that dont pull out your hair
lone junco
I changed to headphones and a stand mic. much better
strange python
the one i have now i have to pull my hair up to use
lone junco
Desk mic doesnt break like a headset arm
strange python
thats true, kinda limited space atm though, maybe soon
steep obsidian
headsets generally last a long time for me but im bad at breaking the cord in the connection sometimes walking away from pc while waering
i had to solder the cable back together on an old one i had
ahd it so long i completely wore out the foam pads
strange python
a bit off-topic but can you still run yourself through dungeons for exp
wanna level my horde rogue
steep obsidian
what do you mean? dual box?
prime void
@supple hearth buy heaadphones not headsets
supple hearth
Someone give me a nice headphone/mic combo then
Quality > aesthetics tbh
I don't want to spend money on anything breaking after only a year
civic palm
Buy electronics with good insurance/service.
civic palm
Get a nice pair of headphones, then either get a nice cardioid mic or like a mod mic if you don't wanna spend $100+ on the mic.
civic palm
Skip yeti's entirely unless you are getting the black, the gain on those is stupid.
prime void
I agreeeee
civic palm
They pick up entirely too fucking much due to being poorly made.
prime void
I have an audiotechnica desk mic, I like it quite a bit
civic palm
at2020 is an excellent mic
supple hearth
That's actually a good point what if I'm a huge mouth breather and I don't want it picking up every little detail
civic palm
If you get a stand-alone mic you can get some really decently priced Sony headphones as well.
civic palm
These are basically the industry standard -
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E
ANY of these -
I cannot vouch for the bottom right two.
strange python
sony headphones have never done me bad either
but the 2nd one on the bottom row rips my hair out in strand
civic palm
Yeah the wire style can be annoying.
vapid moth
can anyone give me a mouseover macro?
for rupture specifically
nevermind i made mine work
follow up. Do you have all your abilities attached to a mouseover? the ones you might use on a side target i mean
it didnt work with out a [] before the rupture
Why not
long forum
Hey , im currently 902 and im just always Energy starved is this normal ? does it get better
vapid moth
Have you read up on the proper rotations?
civic palm
Also adding a Rupture at the end can help when you are NOT intended to mouseover.
eg.
/cast [@wicked quarryuseover] Rupture; Rupture
vapid moth
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [] Rupture
Works for every situation
Tab is nice and all till you have 10 targets and the nameplates are all stacking and unstacking
lone junco
k I healed my first Tyrannical vault. Eye boss is a bitch.
jumped right in to a 15, and got smashed.
lone junco
did a 8 12 14 15 all fine. get to vault and that eye ball smashed me.
intermission phase is no bueno
vapid moth
Anyone wanna let me join in on their +19 key?
Cause none of the fucking pugs wanna let me do one
I’ve gotten a wide range of excuses from “sorry don’t want melee” to “that’s your problem” when I told the dude that having every dungeon complete at +18 only gives a score of 2800
Who required a 3k score
steep obsidian
seriously
push keys next week 😛
this week is utter shit
or find a steady group or something coz pugs blow
devout temple
SO i farmed months to get this shoulders
a monk tank is still beating me in aoe
WoW balance team =\
wide bolt
Youre unlikely to beat anyone in burst as Sin without Poison Bomb
Just rupture one target then FoK > Envenom spam
And pray
supple hearth
sub/outlaw for aoe
devout temple
what game design is that
supple hearth
sin for ST
wide bolt
Can't be a jack of all trades
devout temple
but i barely have time to even gear 1 spec out 😦
wide bolt
And master of it all
supple hearth
if you only have enough time for 1 spec then you only have enough time for a certain level of difficulty
Sin is the main raid spec atm. you shouldnt be losing to a tank there
devout temple
m+
supple hearth
for dungeons sub is the meta spec
sin usually does well on the bosses and then youre trailing on the trash unless you have luck
devout temple
I understand not being jack of all trades, but aoe shouldn't ever be this low
devout temple
M+ the new game mode
supple hearth
your class has a spec that excels in m+
devout temple
=\
supple hearth
it doesnt need all 3 to be the same
supple hearth
the expansion is almost over i wouldnt worry too much about it
everyone is just farming last minute aesthetic things at this point
devout temple
so just don't do m+?
supple hearth
depends on what you want out of m+
if youre just doing a 15 each week it doesnt matter
if youre trying to go do 20-25s
then you should be gearing sub
devout temple
I do around 15 but i'd rather not be below the tnak
supple hearth
keep gearing yourself for stronger st
when i go in as assassination i wont do as well as aoe specs but my ST is stil up in 2-3m+
theres some points where its just silly to compare yourself to others. the very end of the expansion when youre not geared and several people are VERY geared is one of those times you shouldnt compare yourself
just focus on doing your personal best
quick talon
Well even without PB you shouldn’t be losing on aoe vs monk tank tbh
lone junco
If you are below the tank for overall instance damage you need to play better
lone junco
shoulder open is pretty simple in M+
supple hearth
like if the tank is mythic geared and hes like..normal
devout temple
spam fok and uhh enveneom
lone junco
no
see crazy talk
if 3 mut env mut env. if 4+ fok env. either way, make sure the tank stops before you open.
dumping bombs on the run, you might as well just not try
wide bolt
Shouldnt you put rupture on the highest health target for energy regen?
devout temple
uhh i do that
lone junco
not in the open
wide bolt
Ah after opener
lone junco
you have 8 sec of nothing but fok env.
after you weave rupture and env and rupture and env. based on kill times.
@devout temple are you pulling 4M on trash? or way way less
devout temple
was hoping shoulder would make me good
lone junco
shoulder is good.
devout temple
err 2m
supple hearth
gear helps but its not whats going to make you good
lone junco
our tank does like 4-8m. you wont beat that. I do 3-4m
supple hearth
that just increases the cap of what youre capable of dishing out
lone junco
But i do 2.2-3.2m ST
and thats what you are good at. If you want to do mass aoe sub shoulder cloak.
devout temple
i guess this is why our 100 is all 3 aoe talents in bfa lol
lone junco
ish
supple hearth
I still wouldnt go in thinking youre going to be competitive in aoe as assassination. its our single target spec
thats why most rogue mains gear multiple specs
swap depending on situation
devout temple
I don't wanna be competitive, just more than tank thats absurd
wide bolt
TBH most if not all pure dps classes do that
devout temple
whcih is why i think they are fixing it
lone junco
you are confused as to what tank aoe is like
serene basin
so is it norma to feel energy starved when you aoe (fok / envenom)?
lone junco
our prot pally bursts to 8M?
serene basin
or does 4 piece help a lot
lone junco
@serene basin if you have 4p21. you will be fine
serene basin
gotcha
supple hearth
idk if a tank does more aoe than me on a trash pack im not too worried. overall im still going to dish out a tonnnnn more damage than the tank
lone junco
yeah. plus, tanks may run glaives and what not that are every other pull. we do great overall tho
shoulder bracer tb is fine. It is much less aoe than sub
@supple hearth that Tyrannical Vault eye boss is a bitch to heal. do you coocoon yourself during intermission?
supple hearth
yeah save cocoon for yourself but just dodge as much as u can
lone junco
yeah. ive been enjoying that.
dense yew
I’ve still yet to run with one of these good sub rogues. The few I’ve run with have maybe done 2.2-2.3 overall.
lone junco
3M hps
dense yew
They must be out there though.
devout temple
oh damn i beat them all in overall dmg they were 10-15 more ilvl then me too
at the end
lone junco
it also depends on pull size
devout temple
i dunn how that happened they were owning me in aoe
supple hearth
yeah if youre winning in overall i wouldnt sweat the packs
a lot of them have aoe cleaves and stuff
or as noobe said - trinkets
dense yew
Hrm
lone junco
i mean, that 30M dfa is pretty nice
dense yew
Yeah true.
How often is that though? Just when vanish is up right?
With or without glaivez?
devout temple
i have all the sub legendaries just no good trinket
devout temple
or t20
lone junco
yeah 2p2p is important
Im bad at footwork with dfa, and get dead a lot.
is why I play sin in M+
devout temple
i think ima just keep on total dmg done for meter
lone junco
So I run with Mongo AoE. and run ST
devout temple
feel better
lone junco
I have 2 meters.
dense yew
Maybe I should rush off my sub set. I couldn’t find any good M+ resources. I think it’s different to a raid boss right?
dense yew
I didn’t get any nice TF T20 pieces and cbf going back into Tomb
lone junco
the bonus is better than the ilvl
dense yew
Hrm
lone junco
but this isnt #subtlety
for sin, you just fok env fok rupture with 4p
and murder the boss
dense yew
I enjoy sin. Just wanna try a high key with a good sub rogue one of these days. Just to see the doff
Diff
lone junco
overall is prob close. but sub can Murder one specific mob really really well.
devout temple
best race for m+ belf?
dense yew
Y
safe matrix
A good resource is like miraclesteps stream
he has vods and stuff
i dunno if spasky streams
or ashine
but yeah double rogues is pretty rare
Also this week feels like aids on my resto druid
grievous sucks
supple hearth
grievous is my least favorite
fallow plume
Hey guys, I am trying to improve my rotation, so I was checking my logs and realized that i've been wasting so much (42) combo points from Seal Fate. Its from critting mutilates at 3 cp. Am I doing something wrong? Should I try to use garrote or tb or maybe even fok at 3 cp to build combo points?
lone junco
general rule is dont mut on 4
fallow plume
I never mut on 4
slim estuary
Is it possible to log good on PK as the buff runner?
steep obsidian
what do you mean by good?
i very much doubt it 😛
you should be able to get a purple log at least fi that is good
with some ok rng
tawdry pine
The only way to do parse well is to stay down the whole time, but sin is pretty good on the adds
strange python
noobe how did your subbing go
ive been having the itch recently but i dont have hands/vigor ring and cba actually playing it right
safe matrix
Hands/cloak + mantle, wrists are okay as a substitute for either
strange python
im shitty at the spec so i was gonna play vigor ring for wiggle room sorry shouldve specified
just havent touched the spec so only have the freebie legos
strange python
for the ST portion though, will it help me keep NB up
the decision making without lego hands sometimes is hard to follow.
also played a bit of sub on imonar and dfa'd into red bombs so its sin time
lone junco
@strange python fat deeps. depleted key
i dont think anyone had been in lower K before.
fervent beacon
You fucking need help
prime void
Its my fav too
lone junco
i dont hate it. but man. people die over and over and over
prime void
So many fat dick pulls
lone junco
I just saw a warrior named Fuu fly by though.
strange python
moroes is hard
lone junco
everyone but me got stunned by the Maiden.
strange python
with a coordinated group you prob could
lone junco
i did it once like that. me and fury with glaives
we pulled around the stairs. and just fucking stomped.
strange python
dirty
lone junco
i determied that sub can really fuck up bolstering lol
lone junco
Bolster Grevious Tyr
strange python
mfd time to shine
lone junco
you dont need 2p for trash.
the garrote is unnecessary
w/e I run with 2 fat AoE , i go for single
strange python
wanna try a few alac dungeons for science, maybe ill cuck a few pugs
lone junco
alac is st DP hits.
the EP will be nice for reasons, but alac is going to be shit.
wanna be weird run the Ep TB insig
strange python
i wish i had like 45+ crit
strange python
dirty
lone junco
+dog
strange python
that could be so fun
lone junco
its like 76, mut or so
strange python
ep/tb still sims high for me
with boot/bracer
like 6k behind bleed
even with rupture relic, is weird
strange python
only thing is having to re-program my brain
is frost mage aoe basically like sin?
mediocre
lone junco
I dont know must about frost sry
strange python
leveling a mage for horde keys
strange python
guild is going H for bfa so gotta prepare anywho
supple hearth
tfw youre tanking and a dumb rogue has a >poison bomb proc< macro and u purposely move it out of the way
steep obsidian
hah yeah i turn that shit off in pugs but the tank I normally run with wants me to have it on when we doing keys
strange python
^
steep obsidian
it works better then me bitching at him after he did it
strange python
thats all the one i have does
reads it from log and repeats
but most of the time it whispers him
steep obsidian
like you can pretty much do anything in weak auras though if you are a decent enough coder
strange python
just to keep littlewigs clutter to a min
steep obsidian
well anything that the api allows
zealous dew
sanguine + sin rogues = bad combo
steep obsidian
sub isnt much better
with sanguine 😛
but i guess you can at least control and delay dfa
safe matrix
Sub is fine with sanguine
The reason why sin suffers is because everything is kited
Poison bomb doesn't have as good of an effect
steep obsidian
ahuh
i havent really had that big an issue with it tbh
cant waste pb if it never procs
zealous dew
it procs it procs, it just procs when it's not needed
zealous dew
ded cennel
steep obsidian
😴
sharp viper
people are sleeping
tough root
any detailed bleed build guide out there ?
mossy root
🤔
jovial kite
@tough root
gaunt moat
detailed guide only for exsang?
wew.
jovial kite
i could add one under your guide 🤷🏿
gaunt moat
i dunno how much more there is to add about it
if you wanna add something that can fit we can add it though
(not an entire tab/guide though)
echo estuary
an assa guide for LFR is missing me thinks
midnight latch
slim estuary
how do i make dropkicks in guild not be dropkicks 🤔
dire spoke
naya 
zealous dew
wtb 100% chance of pb
dire spoke
so
one idiot in our roster wasn't lined up for today and he posted in discord
"well I don't seem to be needed anymore, hafe fun with the rest of antorus in bfa we see us or maybe not"
and left the guild
sharp viper
good you got rid of that drama queen
what a fgit
sharp viper
what a musical instrument
spare cloud
Seems like a nice guy to me 🤷
strange python
Morning Stabbers 😃 I am looking for sass rogue to help me out either today or tomorrow in game if possible and here on voice chat, to up my dps and improve my rotation. Tips and tricks and all I can gleen from you. I am willing to pay in game gold for this as well. pst me if you can oblige. Thanks guys.
dire spoke
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
amber sleet
dire spoke
aww snap
strange python
I will and have been reading but I learn better from example and audio queues
I do have the shoulders
so was using that rotation guide.. but my timing is off and I am getting a lot of down time
dire spoke
It's because you may have more or few master assassins relics and/or boots
there is nothing to be insecure about this spec, you hit the cooldowns when they glow except around vanish
here is my garothi cast sequence if you want to scroll through stuff https://goo.gl/gPttDy running 3 MAss mantle-bracers default build
have fun 👋🏻
white galleon
strange python
sure. lemme go figure it out and then I'll link it
strange python
I haven't really learned how to use or share the simulationcraft. working on figuring out how to link it.
dire spoke
warcraftlogs are not simc results
also you can use raidbots.com
but we need logs (like I posted) to figure out what you're doing wrong
strange python
Just made an account on warcraftlogs. I guess now I have to run some stuff so I can see a progressed chart?
dire spoke
You have to log by yourself OR be in a raid where somebody is logging public
to be honest, before you bother anybody with your stuff maybe just play your rogue/spec for two or three weeks
it's no use to overthink everything when you don't have gear or exp
devout temple
Is Seat of the Triumphrant harder than other mythics? i keep getting this magic aoe debuff that destroy s me
and i can't do any aoe
rustic rock
is it just me or why do i keep seeing fan of knives being used in Argus heroic kills at the start?
gaunt moat
for now it's just you.
if you link the log, maybe others as well
devout temple
Seat seems really rought for melee
any tips what the hell all this aoe
around mobs
every M+ i do i'm tempted to go back to my afflock lol
spare cloud
What?
fast nacelle
😐
devout temple
its 10x eaier
devout temple
and i can aoe
zealous dew
stand still and nuke
devout temple
it feels ike 8 lvevls higher when doing it on rogue
devout temple
Barely beating out this bm hunter 15 i lvl lower since i have to run out of these aoe
Yeah it was a fun experiemtn but ima have to go back to affleck
primal tangle
🤔
devout temple
altho i will miss the crazy 4-5m dps opening
shut willow
devout temple
they are liars
primal tangle
I love getting blasted in the face with curse of the sea witch
astral sundial
@rustic rock just a guess but maybe people are using it while running out?
tacit bay
small thing about assa but in the opener why do you TB before the KB?
jovial kite
to buff the initial hit
there is a variation where you kb and tb when kb has 9 sec remaining
tacit bay
which performs best?
jovial kite
tb kb
tacit bay
ok ty ^^
o stupid question but does all this poison dmg count as magical dmg?
for being a Nightbourne
jovial kite
yes
shrewd night
Suh bois
sharp viper
well i found myself in situations where i could cast tb into kb and a bit later kb into tb and then afterwards tb into kb again , but i think that is highyl reliant on how many poison procs you get for the kb cd
spare cloud
Liar
sharp viper
i did not lie, I DID NOT
strange python
mythic gul'dan still hard even at 970 this is aids
i did not hit her i did not, that is bullshit
spare cloud
I did nawt