#assassination

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prime void
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ep alac is spammy tho

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which makes it fun

lone junco
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all the env you can handle

dire spoke
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I just hate the "CP cucked me" situations

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with this gear

lone junco
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i get it. you can play my guy in progress if you want.

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plenty cps, no damage.

manic vigil
lone junco
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2.1 is my max garothi

prime void
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95 env uptime

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spam spam spam

dire spoke
manic vigil
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I'd love that actually mizu

dire spoke
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@lone junco I just want the mount pls

manic vigil
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Alacrity still sucks for me tho FeelsBadMan

prime void
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and im low crit

dire spoke
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inv

prime void
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I cant even imagine

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if I had a crit neck/shoulders/boots

spare cloud
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I cant either

lone junco
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you want crit and BB to do the crits and malch to do the damage and mastery for the DP and 3vend for the deeps

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all the things.

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gain 1%

spare cloud
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I want all the relics

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And a 975 gnawed thumb ring

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Would be cool

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Also 975 eoc

lone junco
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btw. you do need 3vend for alac.

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want

dire spoke
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I hope I get 985 offset gloves crit/mast tomorrow

lone junco
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the offset crit mastery shoulders are pretty nice as well

hoary copper
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985 Haste/verse gloves for you

lone junco
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i bet my main gets another haste cloak and my hpal gets a drape

dire spoke
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yeah the 950 blitz I got are fine but it's not enough obviously

lone junco
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i healed a 15 maw last night. was rough. busted the timer by like 8 mins.

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totally my fault, but melee were getting dumpstered by the cleave trash

manic vigil
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Fucking explosive

hoary copper
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I got DoS....on my feral -.-

manic vigil
lone junco
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hpal did ok on explosive

hoary copper
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I have a 900 DoS, but idk. I know it's worth like 30 something levels just doesnt seem worth it

lone junco
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im like 20ilvl behind, did ok. should be good soon.

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btw. everyone is jerking alacrity. the real champ is EP.

spare cloud
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Nothing what

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You dont need to be offended by me all the time

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Im sorry

dire spoke
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fucking topfel

spare cloud
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Im sitting in a train and a fat sweaty dude is next to me

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And i cant get out

dire spoke
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lmao

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in the good deutsche bahn

spare cloud
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Yes

dire spoke
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which you can trust 100%

spare cloud
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On my way to get food then go home

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I cant read that without help yet

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Line is i though

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I think

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E ia t

lone junco
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@dire spoke you cant even get a 0p5p bracer boot MP/TB?

spare cloud
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Its prob ur name.

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I know s then as well

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Thanks

dire spoke
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I just tried

lone junco
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damn. that 2p4p is worth a lot.

dire spoke
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oh wait

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@lone junco I don't wear 2p

solid nova
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Hufflepuff 🀒

dire spoke
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what

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yeah I got 950 blitz let me correct

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well give me aggramar legs 😠

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ffs Tisumi

spare cloud
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Wait that makes no sense

dire spoke
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I think I just sold them 3 runs before

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oh no

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I wouldn't

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it was the back nvmd

lone junco
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2145 still low

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with a 965 SSF

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thats 940 2p

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rip

dire spoke
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forever mantle

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@lone junco ❀

lone junco
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@dire spoke its funny when people talk about what is Best Spec. or Bis.

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+/- 5% all across the board.

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for the life of me, I cant get shoulder bracer to be top.

prime void
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ianother week, another 3 brolls

lone junco
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it is what it is.

prime void
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no shoulders

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Dank

dire spoke
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I mean my output doesn't bother me, it's that I need to plan around so much and that I have to play with peak/low instead of consistency

spare cloud
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Your name says

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Timusi

dire spoke
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haahh

spare cloud
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Timusi is fine

dire spoke
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Oh I would have 945 aggramars

spare cloud
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Swap second with last character

dire spoke
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my bank is full of wonders

spare cloud
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And youre gucci

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Wait no

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Its actually timisu

prime void
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quick ring log if you were curious

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No pre or post pot tho cuz i'm out

dire spoke
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I think I try EoC on aggramar today ... I mean most of the fight is boss and it does 30k more on patchwerk

spare cloud
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Yes

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I learned a few characters cuz of that

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Thx

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I want to be bloodelf

manic vigil
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Who doesn't

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Zempai LuL3d

spare cloud
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Zempai is odd

manic vigil
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Troll btw haHAA

dire spoke
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WHAT

spare cloud
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Male bloodelf btw

manic vigil
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Wow

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Don't even joke

lone junco
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i would race change, but no coin.

dire spoke
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I picked Troll because I played it back in WotlK where it was fine

spare cloud
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Youre the only person i know that plays female undead

lone junco
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undead from BC pvp.

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was pink hair PΓ―nkranger

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was a blue and green.

spare cloud
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Nice

lone junco
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we did 3rogue arena

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pretty fun in bgs.

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just fucking people

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then running off

spare cloud
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Back in bc i was like 9 years old

lone junco
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that was my PMR days

dire spoke
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whew y'all chickens

spare cloud
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And my parents wouldnt have let me play wow

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Bad luk

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Much wipes

manic vigil
dire spoke
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you can hear me complain about my CP live on stream later btw

spare cloud
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I will watch

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Btw turn mouse cursos on

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In obs

dire spoke
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then I don't see what I'm clicking 😠

spare cloud
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What

dire spoke
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flashy shit

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ohh

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I thought a cursor addon lmao

spare cloud
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No

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In obs so we can see the cursor

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And not only you

dire spoke
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but without it's like a mystery

spare cloud
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Share your profound tactics

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Kk

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Unfollowed

dire spoke
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whew

lone junco
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do you use a click circle mod?

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I wanted one for D3 cause i could never tell where my mouse was.

dire spoke
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all I use is bartender man

spare cloud
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No weakauras

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And no bossmods

lone junco
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I put on the Explosive orb weakaura yesterday. πŸ‘Œ

dire spoke
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πŸ™„ ffs topf

spare cloud
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For the challenge

manic vigil
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I could never play with standard unit frames NotLikeThis

spare cloud
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What

manic vigil
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Ugly af

lone junco
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standard raid and unit frames are great

spare cloud
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Yeah no

lone junco
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CPs. HPs. E. Debuffs.

manic vigil
lone junco
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nah.

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Ill post my ui if you dont watch your finger

spare cloud
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Go ahead

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We can use that

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"dont make your ui look like that"

lone junco
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I love this pic. the bacground is such a fucking cluster.

spare cloud
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Oh god

manic vigil
spare cloud
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Good lord

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Please save us

lone junco
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typ trigger a few people with the mis aligned unit frames

spare cloud
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At least you dont miss timers.

dire spoke
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not even mythic

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I believe that

spare cloud
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Why do you have dos on your bars

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Did you use dos back then?

lone junco
spare cloud
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Why do you show dmg 2 times BabyRage

shrewd oriole
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oh god

lone junco
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raid frames are still in the same spot, and the ERT cd trackers are above dps. but its fine

shrewd oriole
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do you click cloak

lone junco
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sh-q

shrewd oriole
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Q is your trinket tho

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ah

lone junco
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that right bar only bound top 3.

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res are all fine

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@spare cloud i just show crits in one column. its been that way since BC Enhance tbh

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nice to see when pb procs. it floods.

spare cloud
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Why does your dmg addon say cffFF00

dire spoke
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@lone junco wanna see my glorious clip ppl gone bonkers about how I play?

lone junco
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when you jumped off the platform?

spare cloud
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Lol

dire spoke
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πŸ€” I did?

lone junco
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that was lorentz. I keed

dire spoke
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ahahah

lone junco
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lets see

dire spoke
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I got meteored a few times with no ShStep up

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errr

lone junco
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the best part of my WA is the TB/KB/EP/Env bars without labels

fervent beacon
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ok time to kms when i get shit loot off my weekly

lone junco
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and Feint has a bar

gleaming spire
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if i go left i keep 3 MAssassin.. but that right is so nice.. help dads

dire spoke
lone junco
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@dire spoke thats a bit bonkers, but the worst part would be targeting in m+

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prob not that bad in ST. but man.

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grats on orange parses like that.

dire spoke
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hmm yeah I tab

lone junco
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gl getting the right one for kick i guess.

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it clearlyl works.

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:boggle:

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and I love bartender.

zealous dew
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mmm why keeping raid frames ?

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visible in combat

dire spoke
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noobe is RL no?

lone junco
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lol wut

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yeah

zealous dew
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no you zemp

lone junco
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I yell at people all the time

zealous dew
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i know noobe is rl

lone junco
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its good to know when people are dead

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esp for role changes. even as a dps

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we have a ton of people that have no clue that the MT is dead until they get punched in the face.

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bad game sirs

dire spoke
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Well I'm not a plain idiot who's tunneling the boss ... if somebody with CC is dead or something I can act without call because I see it thinky

lone junco
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:thinky:

dire spoke
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(not aggramar specific)

lone junco
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my best addon is a doink mod

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when you get a parry or dodge or miss from a mob. it makes a cool DOINK sound

dire spoke
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big old doinks

lone junco
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it supplies all the DFA tears I need.

jovial kite
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out here in amish

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big ol doinks

lone junco
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Vanish dfa DOINK

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/rip

dire spoke
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I macroed the seafarer's whistle to DfA once

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it was glorious jumping in the air

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WHOOOOOOPP

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only 300k

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yeah

strange python
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Lmao

dire spoke
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since they carried you through argus already

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@gusty kestrel heart

spare cloud
dire spoke
spare cloud
manic vigil
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Did shantal just suggest not displaying raid frames? Nice meme lul

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I even use vuhdu back from my healing days

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Still pretty useful for mouseover action

prime void
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wellp

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Your boi fucked up

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changed relics- it was a mistake

spare cloud
prime void
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Never hitting the 2.3 dream now

sacred citrus
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Lol

prime void
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I wont hit 2.3 without t20 tbh

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rip shoulders

sacred citrus
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2.3 you say?

dire spoke
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yes, somebody can't run so they asked me even tho I didn't sign up

prime void
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zempai watch me kill argus tonight

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❀ bb

dire spoke
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don't forget your pots again

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:^D

prime void
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I'm out rn

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rip

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I dont wipe for another like 11 hours

dire spoke
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oh yeah I forgot it's always that late for me when I watch you lol

prime void
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ehh

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for like 8 hours

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more like *

dire spoke
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yeah

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2pm for me

fallow canopy
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is there a subterfuge bug?

dire spoke
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@fallow canopy what did you discover?

prime void
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just cheapshot out of stealth its BiS

fallow canopy
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my garrote CD is super long with it. i thought it was supposed to be shorter

dire spoke
prime void
spare cloud
prime void
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well

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it makes it have no cd

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for first 3 secs

dire spoke
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@fallow canopy garrote CD was t20, subt handles your 3s stealth abilities

fallow canopy
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iit's old 2p huh

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thats right RIP

prime void
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ye

fallow canopy
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is it worth using 2p/2p on coven?

spare cloud
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No

dire spoke
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No

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unless it sims higher

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then yes

spare cloud
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Do you really want anyone to play without the 4pc energy reg

dire spoke
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2p2p a l a c r i t y

spare cloud
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stop

safe matrix
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Tisu I see you have been converted by flowi

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Into the alacrity cult

dire spoke
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converted into flowi

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πŸ€”

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alacrity people are like diet/gym people, they tell you how good it is 24/7

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and that you should do it too

safe matrix
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Alacrity, the crossfit of ravenholdt

prime void
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whats your alac sim look like tisumi

dire spoke
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it's tisimu now

spare cloud
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wat

safe matrix
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I guess that makes sense

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Alacrity making boots better

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Cause more energy to spend to reduce vendetta

prime void
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3x mass?

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kek

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fk u

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no reclear in 5 weeks has me in the shit for relics

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0 mass

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feels fat

spare cloud
prime void
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Ha

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HAHAHAHA

spare cloud
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2pc/2pc doesn't work so well

dire spoke
prime void
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yuck ?

spare cloud
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my best relic

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😦

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I have one of those as well

safe matrix
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yeah, my relics are garbo

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i want those

spare cloud
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always drops instead of eoc

dire spoke
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gonna hack timisu

spare cloud
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Zempai what

undone lodge
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yawn....whats up guys

spare cloud
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he changed

safe matrix
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I think I have a MAlch one but I'd have to get rid of my only MAss

dire spoke
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OmegaLUL NEVER

spare cloud
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Zempai sticking to the old memes

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clicking stuck from classic

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bartender from wotlk

dire spoke
manic vigil
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Why are you bullying zempai all day toph?

spare cloud
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we are bullying each other

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at least he's trying

manic vigil
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Wow

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So much anger

keen inlet
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Hey

manic vigil
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Is it because Tyra bullies you?

spare cloud
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Yes

manic vigil
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Vicious cycle

keen inlet
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you know where bullying is great?

manic vigil
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In genersl

prime void
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make it the new general boys

manic vigil
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Not gonna fix it

keen inlet
spare cloud
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Light bullying

safe matrix
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Don just said

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we can bully people

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WORLD FIRST

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YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS

spare cloud
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screencapped

keen inlet
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So

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Alacrity.

strange python
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gimme snd back

valid plank
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alacrity build guide?

molten flicker
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use kb

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use env

lone junco
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222222221

brisk forge
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You forgot a 2 in the end aswell!

valid plank
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stat %

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legendaries?

molten flicker
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crit > rest

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boots + bracers

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(also, it's not good)

valid plank
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yeh i know but fuck it im depressed

molten flicker
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it's right

valid plank
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t21 4p

safe matrix
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If I do it I lose 80k dps

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I really want to do it though

valid plank
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what's the benefits tho? if any

safe matrix
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because I want less buttons to hit

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for shits and giggles

molten flicker
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there are no benefits

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it's just different

spare cloud
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General

jovial kite
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yo

keen inlet
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no

jovial kite
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fuck

valid plank
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i'm not allowed coloured names

spare cloud
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Yeah youre not

valid plank
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tbh i don't want a coloured name

keen inlet
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Cool

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we appreciate your bravery in sharing

valid plank
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white names best

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white > all colors

molten flicker
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racism in chat

spare cloud
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save that for general

molten flicker
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PURGE IT

halcyon pumice
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tfw 965 haste/vers belt from weekly cache

keen inlet
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welp

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somebody's rolling outlaw

solid field
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965 haste/verse ring

lone junco
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rip

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grats BFA hemo spec

valid plank
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past 2 months all my weekly chests have been haste main stat or shit relics

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can't wait this week i hope its more haste shoulders

zenith cloak
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Is it better to use a 4cp finisher or should I fan/garrote to get the 5th cp

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Like is it worth applying a 4cp rupture or using a 4cp envenom

lone junco
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@zenith cloak env or rupture at 4or5cps.

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and read the guide

valid plank
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noobe, do you need certain % of crit for the alacrity build?

lone junco
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i guess there could be an MP alac variant, but the one I have run was EP Alac. and thats in the 40+ range

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alacrity isnt really the big driver there over TB. it is EP over MP with crit.

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EP buffs ruptures in bracer, Mp does not buff env in bracers or ruptures.

valid plank
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crit > all, until 40%

strange python
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hey guys

valid plank
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wrists + boots, right?

lone junco
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ye

strange python
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r there cruicibleweights for assassins

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@fiery flower

lone junco
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Ep Vig Alac. goal 45/135 bracer boot 3vend. (bb/malch mix) 0p4p.

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@strange python dont just ping purple people

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there are few different builds with relic strings. Pick the one you play

strange python
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right so i dont have them yet

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but wots the best legs

lone junco
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shoulder bracer is fine

valid plank
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noobe do you mean t21 4p

lone junco
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ye

strange python
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thnx nobe

lone junco
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with crit off pieces

valid plank
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ye ty

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3 vendetta relics then rest malch?

lone junco
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nah. 3v 3bb or 3v 2bb 1 malch. I have 3v 1bb 1env 1malch

strange python
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man...

zenith cloak
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Wait so if I’m using bracers boots how many Ven traits should I go for

lone junco
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depends.

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bracer boot can use 0 1 2 3

shrewd night
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@dire spoke Soon raid!

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Oh wait omegaLUL

zenith cloak
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I have 2 Ven one malch

lone junco
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@strange python you can use emoji in game chat?

fiery nest
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Nice whisper GWfroggyMonkaChrist

dire spoke
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@shrewd night I'm actually in peepocheer

zenith cloak
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Should I just sim relics now to see what’ll be better?

lone junco
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@strange python some of the builds require 3 vendettas.

strange python
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oops

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Kappa

lone junco
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some dont.

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some hate 2 vendettas.

shrewd night
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@dire spoke Cancelling because Aggramar makes people show their wish to progress

lone junco
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so it depends on what you're doing

zenith cloak
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What do you mean what I’m doing, like what build I’m running?

strange python
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wait wtf happened

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WTF

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I PUT MY RELIC IN

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AND IT CHANGED THE MASTER OF ASSASINS TRAIT TO -0.07

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INSTEAD OF THE 9 IT WAS BEFORE

valid plank
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haha

strange python
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WHEN I HAD IT IN THE EXTRA SLOT

plain thistle
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🀦

fiery nest
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Lol

molten flicker
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β™Ώ

lone junco
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thats just 2vend with shoulder

plain thistle
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thats why you sim relic before putting it in

strange python
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WTF?

lone junco
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with shoulders we run 1 or 3. with bracer boot we run 0 1 2 3

valid plank
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tbh i fell for the trick once too but still

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it feels good when it happens to someone else

lone junco
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most people I like 3 best.

plain thistle
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I dont use the addon, but he probably checks for the current MA value, not the current +1 level

lone junco
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the script has a value for the 2nd vend at the low weight

strange python
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wtf...

lone junco
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so he prob had 0. added 1. has another, and it is a wash

strange python
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but it was in my FOURTH slot

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the optional 1

fiery nest
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Just get another one

strange python
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and it gave me a high value

fiery nest
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Ez

molten flicker
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:d

strange python
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then i put it in my REAL slot

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and it lowes it

fervent beacon
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Addon is 100% trolling you

strange python
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😑

fervent beacon
lone junco
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it delays your vanish a bit.

valid plank
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the addon preview only shows current value not the value with the rest of your relics

dire spoke
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blindly trusting crucibleweights peepocheer

strange python
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I was tricksetered 😑

dire spoke
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no you just were a bit silly

valid plank
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you can blindly trust crucibleweights as long as you remember the vendetta trait rules and can count

molten flicker
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pretty sure you just didn't understand what you were doing

plain thistle
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I never used this addon, because I know the values without it and I will always sim anyway

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🀷

strange python
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😑

dire spoke
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don't be angry, you will have plenty of time to get new ones until bfa

drifting cloud
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just sim boots/bracers

valid plank
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just quit until bfa unless you're a mythic raiding guild

dire spoke
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orly

zenith cloak
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@lone junco what do u mean by 0 1 2 3

keen inlet
solid field
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the # of relics you have @zenith cloak

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Basically he's saying with boots+bracers there isn't a definite # you run unlike shoulders either being 1 or 3

jovial kite
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wes got kokked

zenith cloak
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So I can run any amount of Ven relics and I won’t be losing out on dps

valid plank
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what did wes do

jovial kite
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i think he inserted something somewhere moist

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and found out it was dank

manic vigil
solid field
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@zenith cloak One should always sim relics.. Unless you want to be like wes

keen inlet
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I mean it's really

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just vendetta relics

lone junco
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just get a 3rd

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its not bad

keen inlet
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that surprise you like that

lone junco
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vendetta is always good

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@strange python just hold your vanish until the 3rd vendetta. its about a 30sec delay. unless the fight is short.

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untill you get a 3rd vend

valid plank
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boots = brainless vendetta
shoulders = counting vendetta

zenith cloak
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I have 2 Ven 1 malch but the malch rolled Ven trait, so is that good enough

lone junco
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sim it with relic compare on raidbots.

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you need 2vend before you can get 3. so I dont really see a problem.

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btw, I think if he had checked the box, it would have adjusted numbers to account for his current weights.

zenith cloak
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Ok

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Ty

molten flicker
lone junco
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almost there.

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good weights imo. looks like 45/135 to me.

molten flicker
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oh no, I'm poison with 29/202

lone junco
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did you try the ep builds?

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will wreck your crit weight tho

molten flicker
#

I changed gear before trying alac

#

was 80k ish loss

lone junco
#

that will happen with low crit. enjoy shoulders then

molten flicker
#

think it's more the relics that were missing

#

alac stats

plush lake
#

You guys always use shoulders? my bracer/boots combo is simming 40k higher then shoulder/boot or shoulder/bracer

molten flicker
#

I would use bracer/boots in your case

#

for me shoulder sims higher

plush lake
#

just trust in the sim eh?

molten flicker
#

yes

plush lake
#

kk ty

valid plank
#

or if you really enjoy the shoulders you can play it too

plush lake
#

damage >:)

valid plank
#

what do you sin

#

sim*

shrewd night
#

@molten flicker alac build is 2233121 right?

molten flicker
#

yes

plush lake
#

1.74 mil without shoulders 1.70 with

dire spoke
valid plank
#

noobe said 2222221

plush lake
#

wait704 and 703

#

yikes, 1.704m 1.701mil

lone junco
#

I was kidding with the 2221 but i have run that

#

Alac is EP/Subterfuge/Vig/Alac/VV

#

but you can sim the talents.

valid plank
#

nop too late not trusting you anymore

lone junco
#

high crit. ideally 45/135 bracer boots. 3vend.

valid plank
#

never playing alacrity now

lone junco
#

thats fine. I dont trust anyone

half tartan
#

Does anyone have the link to simulate my own relic values

lone junco
#

it wont give you a crucible string, but it is the proper way to do it.

shrewd night
#

Its starting to catch up

dire spoke
#

FeelsBadMan you lucky

#

but also you should swap items

#

you can gear compare+change talents

lone junco
#

lucky? alac is a pretty lame rotation. nothing exciting.

#

if it isnt your top, then w/e

#

EP TB is fine as well. esp with high crit.

dire spoke
#

EP TB sounds like a pain in the bumm

dire spoke
#

it's this aggramar head I tell you

shrewd night
#

Thats even closer

#

wew

dire spoke
#

I also wear it

manic vigil
#

Shiennar a proper princess POGGERS

shrewd night
#

I got a tiara and everything

manic vigil
#

Awesome

lone junco
#

nothing I have beats my bleed. so w/e. yall poison bois can play alac i guess πŸ‘Œ

manic vigil
lone junco
#

(ep alac is my highest poison by a reasonable margin)

#

but still sucks

#

I do have more hps at least. the ilvl is a lot higher without 2p20

manic vigil
#

Bleedy boi is way too hard

#

2p4p poison boi is max faceroll

#

Just press buttons, profit

lone junco
#

there are a lot of buttons. like πŸ₯• on cd

#

wrong one

manic vigil
#

Exsang is legit way harder to play imo

#

Not memeing

molten flicker
#

ofc it is

#

it's faster

lone junco
spare cloud
#

Nice fishing

lone junco
#

it worked well

spare cloud
#

lel

lone junco
#

simc doesnt like it but I do

manic vigil
#

But since I never came close to the right gear I also never bothered to learn

#

So how would I know

lone junco
#

@spare cloud it wrecks my avg rupture values.

#

but this was about 100k over my simc avg

#

20M ruptures on those larger peaks.

#

biggest ive gottenis 27M

vapid moth
#

how many fucking cloak relics are there

#

better question. why did the fucking class creators think "oh yeah. every player is definitely gonna go after the cloak relic"

lone junco
#

yeah. rng for the shit show

#

Im still maddest about destroying relics.

#

Id haev a bag full of 955 -975 to swap out as needed.

vapid moth
#

the systems wack

zealous dew
#

oh it's chest day

#

anyone got eoc 985s?

vapid moth
#

i did

fiery nest
#

skill bomb ftw

zealous dew
#

can clearly see alacrity kicking in there

#

that phat yellow peak is alacrity

fiery nest
#

lol

zealous dew
#

oh no wait

spare cloud
#

chest day is tomorrow

zealous dew
#

US boyz got it today

lone junco
#

@zealous dew I could prob run Shoulder bracer tonight. and drop the meme bombs.

#

would prob beat a few records, but doubt it would be many.

zealous dew
#

go for it

lone junco
#

Ill do Kingo for sure.

zealous dew
#

no pb, wipe the raid

#

do it again

lone junco
#

i wiped Varith like that last week.

zealous dew
#

πŸ˜„

lone junco
#

I got aids 3x in a row

zealous dew
#

pretty savage

lone junco
#

3rd i was mid rotation and didnt run out :woops:

#

exang is about 4 sec of clicks

echo estuary
#

whats the max ilvl weps you can have? just curious

lone junco
#

saw a 1003

fiery nest
#

my sub weapon is 1005

#

dead spec tho

zealous dew
#

saw a 1007

echo estuary
#

holy fuck

zealous dew
#

mine is 1002 with 965 965 985

#

dunno which relics the guy had

#

also saw 985 RF TF glaives on prot pala

manic vigil
#

Sub not ded feelsmadman

fiery nest
#

980 soul shadows and weak point, 980 weak point and ES, and a 970 precision strike and gutripper = 1005

lone junco
#

@zealous dew is the M+ tourney geared from a vendor like arena tourney ? or is it progression gear

fiery nest
#

and do less dmg than sin with 72 arti and 977 ilvl arti with shit relics

echo estuary
#

really? is assa that much better ?

plucky slate
#

What's the highest dps build for assassination? Poison or bleed?

manic vigil
#

Should ditch some of those for more gutripper glory

wide delta
#

can u guys help me decide pls?

manic vigil
#

M+ goodness

wide delta
plucky slate
#

Higher dps? Poison or bleed build?

lone junco
#

@plucky slate just play poison shoulder bracer.

#

you dont have the gear for bleed.

manic vigil
#

Not his question tho peepologs

lone junco
#

dont care.

#

you dont give a toddler calculus

manic vigil
#

Why not

echo estuary
#

i dont know if this is the case for PVE but do you boys remember in the start of expac how it was a roller coaster between different specs with all the tuning and stuff. Its like every two weeks there was a fotm spec, felt bad you had to grind all weps.

wide delta
fiery nest
#

will decide

lone junco
#

he did sim it

wide delta
#

its 1k DPS

fiery nest
#

oh play poison then

lone junco
#

@wide delta bracer boot or shoulder bracer. and how many other vend do you have?

fiery nest
#

ez

wide delta
#

shoulder bracer and i already got 3 vend traits

#

im at 3 MA and 3 Vend traits

#

the 960 Strangler / Vend would replace my 940 Vend / MA relic

#

but its strangler and I simmed it and its only 1k dps loss but I would lose 1 MA trait

#

help me @lone junco

#

πŸ˜„

lone junco
#

if you have 3vend 3malch, do not swap in a garrote for a 0.1 % gain.

#

check your 2T sims.

nocturne gate
#

so how viable is exang build atm ?

lone junco
#

i get cautious for less than 0.5% uptrades

wide delta
#

i actually would lose 0,1% DMG if I swap the 940 for the 960 one

#

2nd Trait would be the same

lone junco
#

post the relic compare.

#

not just the ss

#

TLDR strangler sucks

#

@Dr.Runsen#2331 if you can get all the requirements, it is really good avg dps. lower max than shoulder bracer, but we dont worry about pbomb as much.

nocturne gate
#

what do u mean with "if u can get all the requirements" ?

wide delta
#

@lone junco relic compare?

lone junco
#

Bleed: 2p4p. Bracer boot. 3vend. +/- 45/135.

zealous dew
#

@lone junco last time you could get items from vendors

#

935 if i'm not wrong

lone junco
#

That's a good plan. I bet people get their britches twisted when they roll in 15 ilvl down and expect to pull the same.

zealous dew
#

will be 960 now

#

or above

#

and you can literally have any item you want

lone junco
#

If you have a 985 glaive can you use it, or no

zealous dew
#

like the tank trinket from vh, 5 targets get 17xx versa per enemy hit

dire spoke
#

lf 1 DD for aggra

zealous dew
#

was like 20% dmg every min boost

#

imagine on sub rogue

#

M aggramar ?

dire spoke
#

ye

zealous dew
#

i'll join πŸ˜ƒ

lone junco
#

Gl

dire spoke
#

ez

lone junco
#

Don't fall off.

zealous dew
#

@lone junco i'm pretty sure items are capped, being a different realm/server you have to create the char from 0

#

boost it, get profs, get items, sort uis etc

lone junco
#

Good. That's the way arena tourney was run.

zealous dew
lone junco
#

Would like to see the "default ui only".

#

Lol

zealous dew
#

πŸ˜„

#

couldn't play without wa tbh

lone junco
#

Arena players use scripts to move frames. But no addons at all.

#

Just got my explosive orb WA last night. Oh man it is nice.

north basin
#

dayuum this assa shit. first killed boss with this spec hc garothi and 2.1kk dps just lol with 73 traits only. in sub i was struggle keepin up with 1.9k dps there....

lone junco
#

Ezpz.

#

972?

north basin
#

and posion bomb only 6% . so i can do same rotation and get even more with luck.., why i didnt changed month ago 0-0-00

lone junco
#

Ilvl is prob doing the work. Mastery is pretty good.

north basin
#

965 eqioped

lone junco
#

Nb

north basin
#

but good relics i think

lone junco
#

Sounds high though. We're there shitters in raid you were carrying?

nocturne gate
#

i pull on garothi in hc 2-2,1 with 963^^ best with pb proccs was 2,3 or 2,4kk

fiery nest
#

the spec is doing the work

#

dont be silly

north basin
#

and prolly i did many mistakes too, coz first time after training dummy. but spec feels right

dire spoke
#

lol

north basin
#

3 vendetta relics

dire spoke
#

running with 19man

#

gud progress

shrewd notch
#

i know that feel

vapid moth
#

i have the worst luck when it comes to recruiting for m+

#

how is it that 2 968 people pull 500k+ dps less than me

nocturne gate
#

i saw few days in a raid a 971 ele with 1,5kk on st πŸ˜„ on gartohi myth

hoary copper
#

I read that as them doing 500K dps

vapid moth
#

when i was pulling 1.7mill they were legit pulling 1.2 and 1mill

#

i dont get it

valid plank
#

what ilvl are you and what spec did they play

hoary copper
#

That does seem low. That was overall?

shrewd oriole
#

1.7 in m+???

#

Are you a tank

#

Are they a tank

#

Are you 5 tank

valid plank
#

3 man tank comps

shrewd oriole
#

If I did sub 2 Id delete char probs

valid plank
#

2 buyers

shrewd oriole
#

Sub 2M

valid plank
#

what

shrewd oriole
#

What?

spare cloud
#

what??

valid plank
#

what???

shrewd oriole
#

@spare cloud you got flamed by someone who does 1.7

#

Lmao

valid plank
#

oh wtf tom

spare cloud
valid plank
#

you get beat by a clicker don't start

shrewd oriole
#

What the hell

lone junco
#

So at each new raid I take notes and summarize boss strat. Here is garothi.

shrewd oriole
#

He beat me one time with insane Pb whilst I had some of the worst pb

lone junco
#

My aggrimar didn't make it that far.

shrewd oriole
#

Nice

vapid moth
#

They were DH and monk

#

both 968

valid plank
#

he still beat you tho

vapid moth
#

huh

valid plank
#

not you xaethron sorru

spare cloud
#

Not sure if ignorant or just a little slow ThinkingHd

#

that hd thinking doesn't look that hd to me

shrewd oriole
#

Lul

#

πŸ€”

valid plank
#

πŸ€”

spare cloud
vapid moth
#

and no not overall. those were boss fights. literally wiped medivh and almost wiped mana wyrm

valid plank
#

good question mr chinese letter guy

hoary copper
#

Korean?

shrewd oriole
#

Indeed

spare cloud
#

You have a manga avatar

valid plank
#

idfc

shrewd oriole
#

Imagine liking anime in 2017

valid plank
#

i'm ignorant

shrewd oriole
#

lul

hoary copper
#

But what about 2018?

valid plank
#

i cba changing it

spare cloud
#

2018 its okay

shrewd oriole
#

Change it to this

valid plank
#

find me a better pic and ill fix

shrewd oriole
#

It’s me dabbing

valid plank
#

id rather like anime

spare cloud
#

he wanted a better pic

#

rip tom

shrewd oriole
#

This is clearly a superior pic

valid plank
#

you're inferior tho

shrewd oriole
#

You can DAB on your haters

valid plank
#

5,6

shrewd oriole
#

Prime height to eat your gf out baby boy

lone junco
#

dab = covering your eyes from the sun

#

right

valid plank
#

my gf is also short tho

spare cloud
#

What the

hoary copper
#

You'd have to get one first Tom

valid plank
#

so you're not prime

shrewd oriole
#

Sub in England LUL

#

Sun*

valid plank
#

oh fuck

#

why doesn't it show the fucking messages in order

#

fixed it

#

πŸ‘ŒπŸ»

shrewd oriole
#

@hoary copper I broke up with my last gf dude I don’t want another one

#

It sucked wouldnt reggimend

#

Recommend

north basin
#

btw too many times i find myself with 4cp. is it normal?

lone junco
#

vegan πŸ™…

hoary copper
#

Vegan crossfitter dumped ya huh?

void pecan
#

^

lone junco
#

@north basin 4cp is ideal

#

mut env mut env mut env mut env

#

πŸ’Έ

north basin
#

kk

lone junco
#

... Mut crit to 4 is ideal

#

2cp 2cp is lame

north basin
#

thought i need to env at 5 for ideal. wrong ye?

valid plank
#

doesn't matter

spare cloud
#

Someone hasnt read the guide

lone junco
#

see. 2.1m on garothi, and bumbling the rotation. Sin ezmode

strange python
#

every time i get 2cp2cp i want to uninstall right there on the spot.

valid plank
#

you can't get to 5cp from 4cp without garrotte

lone junco
#

yeah finish on 4/5

north basin
#

i read. just cant remember everything from guide. iam at practice stage of learning

valid plank
#

so 4/5 finish is fine

#

re-read

north basin
#

ok

lone junco
#

@north basin its fine. env uptime during kb. Try to get 3 env in the TB window. Dont vanish without vendetta. ezpz

valid plank
#

rip playing wow is a closed book exam, read it once and pray

north basin
#

okey tnx. gona try to muscle memory this stuff

lone junco
#

it takes like 6 times to learn something anyway

#

except for rainman.

hoary copper
#

I have to have my phone on a page if I'm on an old alt or new character especially for rotations and openers until I get it down

lone junco
#

I use 2nd monitor and keep stuf flike this up

shrewd oriole
#

We don’t date ahah

lone junco
shrewd oriole
#

Really not looking to date rn

lone junco
#

i just stare at that shit on the open when learning

#

is how I learned sub

valid plank
#

that double mut hurts

lone junco
#

@shrewd oriole other than pancakes, they will just fuck up our school and cry when you have to stay late to do work/school/games.

spare cloud
#

I can't read that language

lone junco
#

nbd.

spare cloud
#

fucking japanese

lone junco
#

PICTURES

#

dont need werds

north basin
#

ye same / opened log rotation from top assa rogues

shrewd oriole
#

Exactly noobe

spare cloud
#

thats a good start

lone junco
#

there are some very specific reasons the open is that way. and its a good one.

#

pro tip 2, dont fuck up your bracer vanish.

strange python
#

bracer vanish exsang

#

feelsgood

lone junco
#

yall shoulder people have to pray for the 3gcd prior

spare cloud
#

I'd first make sure everything in the guide is done correctly

lone junco
#

@strange python πŸ™

north basin
#

opener is the easiest. but when it comes to midfight decisions. there i struggle now

spare cloud
#

Try to get your timings right

lone junco
#

if you ever want to be roasted. We will find your mistakes

valid plank
#

i might switch to boosts and wrists

spare cloud
#

focus on getting good kingsbanes in the beginning

#

then start playing around it

strange python
#

just play exsang you're only competing against half a dozen other people then

lone junco
valid plank
#

i might even switch to sub

strange python
#

so, I get in this situation all the time, my second vanish is off cd when the boss is at like ~38%, so I just hold everything for an extra 30 seconds? because if you're holding vanish, then you would need to hold vendetta and tb and kb ..

#

lmfao

lone junco
#

@strange python smooth as butter.

strange python
#

what happened there

spare cloud
#

might even switch to outlaw

lone junco
#

bota fishing at the vanish.

#

the first 2 are just a refresh.

strange python
#

aye

#

man i always get super unlucky fishing

#

so ive kinda stopped

#

even at exec

spare cloud
#

@strange python what do you mean exactly

valid plank
#

is it worth holding cds longer than 10's if it'll get you into the 35% range

lone junco
#

the 2nd is prepping and fish. 3rd is the vanish rupture, prob didnt need that last garrote

spare cloud
#

35% range?

north basin
#

btw with bracers . when i come to 30% and my deps like2kk. i will finish fight with how much dps?

lone junco
#

30%

valid plank
#

i forgot if it was 30% or 35%

spare cloud
#

depends on how you play the last 30%

strange python
#

rey that depends on how long the execute is, etc

north basin
#

and like 1min of 30 to 0

spare cloud
#

(:

dire spoke
#

toph are you there

strange python
#

higher than it was before the 30%

lone junco
#

if TTD < 1min yes.

spare cloud
#

No

valid plank
#

fuck it im playing gw2

lone junco
#

if you are on your very last vendetta and vanish but above bracer, hold that shit

strange python
#

like, if everything is off cooldown at like ~40% health, do I literally sit there and hold them all for 30% vanish?

spare cloud
#

No

lone junco
#

if you are on your last vanish but have more than 1min, hold the vanish until you can get to it

strange python
#

but when people say hold the vanish

spare cloud
#

You use vendetta when the boss ttd > vendetta cooldown+20 secs

strange python
#

you still have to then hold every other cooldown

spare cloud
#

and then you vanish on t he next vendetta

#

when its up again

north basin
#

coz when i play my warior and i go exe phase i go up to 200-300k dps . wanted to know how much bracers for rogues gives

lone junco
#

thats in the 60 sec range

strange python
#

warrior execute is a lot stronger

spare cloud
#

also shorter

north basin
#

so we talk about 100-150k dps for rogue maybe?

spare cloud
#

No because it depends on the situation

#

200-300k for warrior execute is bullshit as well

north basin
#

average lets say

spare cloud
#

because its dependant on group setup, fight times

#

etc.

valid plank
#

but you have to play warrior to get warrior execute so in the end it's not worth it

hoary copper
#

I'd like to try warrior but idk

spare cloud
#

Warrior is more fun than rogue 🀷

strange python
#

fury is carpal tunnel simulator, and arms is roll the dice simulator

#

fury warrior is zzzz

spare cloud
#

Lol no

hoary copper
#

Warrior, DH, DK and Hunter are the only ones I dont have at 110. DH I'm just lazy

spare cloud
#

fury is not even that fast paced

strange python
#

arms is pray for tactician

spare cloud
#

compared to dh

#

Zempai is topping dps in his raid

#

I wonder if they know that they are getting topped by a clicker

valid plank
#

they do

#

but they didn't believe he was one

#

a small part of me wants it to be a prank

lone junco
#

@north basin remember bracers buff DP. Kb. Bleeds. Pbomb. not env. so spamming env isnt going to peak. vendetta Vanish pb in bracer peaks. hard.

spare cloud
#

Opener looks so fun

strange python
#

do bracers buff toxic blade

#

wouldnt that mean for poison that vanish rupture is better

#

at exec

warm parcel
#

Under certain conditions yte

#

and no tb doesnt get wrist emp

valid plank
#

assuming your cd have lined up?

strange python
#

where, on the logs, can I see when the boss dropped below 30%?

valid plank
#

look for when your damage boosted tf up without pb procs

strange python
#

oh i guess boss - resources - health

valid plank
#

or that

dire spoke
#

lol toph

spare cloud
#

Yes?

lone junco
#

@strange python we use high mastery stack EP exang. Kb and bombs are still there. and we have plenty of crit. I think Exang is best use of bracers

north basin
#

kk ty

iron portal
#

lul

#

wrist first leggos

lone junco
strange python
#

it is a bit nutty

#

im doing normal farm pug and like even though killtimes are super fast that bracer exsang vanish combo pulls be up ~100k ish

#

does wowanalyzer finally support sin rogue?

#

i assume that's what that is from noobe

lone junco
#

poison

#

thats funny me at 6.25 jhonwei at 6.23

#

guess it depends on bomb procs in the bracer

#

he doesnt use shoulders, so that was as close as i care to look

spare cloud
#

too many factors

strange python
#

does he us 4p0p bracer/boot?

lone junco
#

@strange python it pulls out data, but the rotation is not supported

#

2p4p

#

bracer boot mp tb

spare cloud
#

like pb procc while using shoulders

#

in 30% phase

lone junco
#

ye

strange python
#

weird, my 2p sims so low for poison

#

off pieces are way higher

lone junco
#

hes like 975