#assassination
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all the env you can handle

2.1 is my max garothi

I'd love that actually mizu
@lone junco I just want the mount pls
Alacrity still sucks for me tho 
and im low crit
inv
I cant either
you want crit and BB to do the crits and malch to do the damage and mastery for the DP and 3vend for the deeps
all the things.
gain 1%
the offset crit mastery shoulders are pretty nice as well
985 Haste/verse gloves for you
i bet my main gets another haste cloak and my hpal gets a drape
yeah the 950 blitz I got are fine but it's not enough obviously
i healed a 15 maw last night. was rough. busted the timer by like 8 mins.
totally my fault, but melee were getting dumpstered by the cleave trash
Fucking explosive
I got DoS....on my feral -.-

hpal did ok on explosive
I have a 900 DoS, but idk. I know it's worth like 30 something levels just doesnt seem worth it
im like 20ilvl behind, did ok. should be good soon.
btw. everyone is jerking alacrity. the real champ is EP.
fucking topfel
Yes
which you can trust 100%
On my way to get food then go home
I cant read that without help yet
Line is i though
I think
E ia t
@dire spoke you cant even get a 0p5p bracer boot MP/TB?
damn. that 2p4p is worth a lot.
Hufflepuff π€’
what
yeah I got 950 blitz let me correct
well give me aggramar legs π

ffs Tisumi

Wait that makes no sense
@dire spoke its funny when people talk about what is Best Spec. or Bis.
+/- 5% all across the board.
for the life of me, I cant get shoulder bracer to be top.
ianother week, another 3 brolls
it is what it is.
I mean my output doesn't bother me, it's that I need to plan around so much and that I have to play with peak/low instead of consistency
haahh
Timusi is fine
Oh I would have 945 aggramars
Swap second with last character
my bank is full of wonders
I think I try EoC on aggramar today ... I mean most of the fight is boss and it does 30k more on patchwerk
Zempai is odd
Troll btw 
WHAT
Male bloodelf btw
i would race change, but no coin.
I picked Troll because I played it back in WotlK where it was fine
Youre the only person i know that plays female undead
Nice
Back in bc i was like 9 years old
that was my PMR days
whew y'all chickens

you can hear me complain about my CP live on stream later btw
then I don't see what I'm clicking π
What
but without it's like a mystery
whew
do you use a click circle mod?
I wanted one for D3 cause i could never tell where my mouse was.
all I use is bartender man
I put on the Explosive orb weakaura yesterday. π
π ffs topf
For the challenge
I could never play with standard unit frames 
What
Ugly af
standard raid and unit frames are great
Yeah no
CPs. HPs. E. Debuffs.

Oh god

typ trigger a few people with the mis aligned unit frames
At least you dont miss timers.
Why do you show dmg 2 times 
oh god
raid frames are still in the same spot, and the ERT cd trackers are above dps. but its fine
do you click cloak
sh-q
that right bar only bound top 3.
res are all fine
@spare cloud i just show crits in one column. its been that way since BC Enhance tbh
nice to see when pb procs. it floods.
Why does your dmg addon say cffFF00
@lone junco wanna see my glorious clip ppl gone bonkers about how I play?
when you jumped off the platform?
Lol
π€ I did?
that was lorentz. I keed
ahahah
lets see
the best part of my WA is the TB/KB/EP/Env bars without labels
ok time to kms when i get shit loot off my weekly
and Feint has a bar
if i go left i keep 3 MAssassin.. but that right is so nice.. help dads
@dire spoke thats a bit bonkers, but the worst part would be targeting in m+
prob not that bad in ST. but man.
grats on orange parses like that.
hmm yeah I tab
gl getting the right one for kick i guess.
it clearlyl works.
:boggle:
and I love bartender.
noobe is RL no?
no you zemp
I yell at people all the time
i know noobe is rl
its good to know when people are dead
esp for role changes. even as a dps
we have a ton of people that have no clue that the MT is dead until they get punched in the face.
bad game sirs
Well I'm not a plain idiot who's tunneling the boss ... if somebody with CC is dead or something I can act without call because I see it 
:thinky:
(not aggramar specific)
my best addon is a doink mod
when you get a parry or dodge or miss from a mob. it makes a cool DOINK sound
big old doinks
it supplies all the DFA tears I need.
I macroed the seafarer's whistle to DfA once
it was glorious jumping in the air
WHOOOOOOPP
only 300k

yeah
Lmao


Did shantal just suggest not displaying raid frames? Nice meme 
I even use vuhdu back from my healing days
Still pretty useful for mouseover action

Never hitting the 2.3 dream now
Lol
2.3 you say?
oh yeah I forgot it's always that late for me when I watch you lol
is there a subterfuge bug?
@fallow canopy what did you discover?
just cheapshot out of stealth its BiS
my garrote CD is super long with it. i thought it was supposed to be shorter



@fallow canopy garrote CD was t20, subt handles your 3s stealth abilities
ye
is it worth using 2p/2p on coven?
No
Do you really want anyone to play without the 4pc energy reg
stop
converted into flowi
π€
alacrity people are like diet/gym people, they tell you how good it is 24/7
and that you should do it too
Alacrity, the crossfit of ravenholdt
whats your alac sim look like tisumi
wat
I guess that makes sense
Alacrity making boots better
Cause more energy to spend to reduce vendetta
3x mass?
kek
fk u
no reclear in 5 weeks has me in the shit for relics
0 mass
feels fat
2pc/2pc doesn't work so well

yuck ?
always drops instead of eoc
gonna hack timisu
Zempai what
yawn....whats up guys
he changed
I think I have a MAlch one but I'd have to get rid of my only MAss
NEVER
Why are you bullying zempai all day toph?
Hey
Is it because Tyra bullies you?
Yes
Vicious cycle
you know where bullying is great?
In genersl
Not gonna fix it
in general, but keep it lighthearted
Light bullying
screencapped
gimme snd back
alacrity build guide?
222222221
You forgot a 2 in the end aswell!
yeh i know but fuck it im depressed
it's right
t21 4p
what's the benefits tho? if any
General
yo
no
fuck
i'm not allowed coloured names
Yeah youre not
tbh i don't want a coloured name
racism in chat
save that for general
PURGE IT
tfw 965 haste/vers belt from weekly cache
965 haste/verse ring
past 2 months all my weekly chests have been haste main stat or shit relics
can't wait this week i hope its more haste shoulders
Is it better to use a 4cp finisher or should I fan/garrote to get the 5th cp
Like is it worth applying a 4cp rupture or using a 4cp envenom
@zenith cloak env or rupture at 4or5cps.
and read the guide
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
noobe, do you need certain % of crit for the alacrity build?
i guess there could be an MP alac variant, but the one I have run was EP Alac. and thats in the 40+ range
alacrity isnt really the big driver there over TB. it is EP over MP with crit.
EP buffs ruptures in bracer, Mp does not buff env in bracers or ruptures.
crit > all, until 40%
hey guys
wrists + boots, right?
ye
Ep Vig Alac. goal 45/135 bracer boot 3vend. (bb/malch mix) 0p4p.
@strange python dont just ping purple people
Relics results of the Tier 21 Single Target simulations for the Rogue Assassination.
there are few different builds with relic strings. Pick the one you play
shoulder bracer is fine
noobe do you mean t21 4p
ye
thnx nobe
with crit off pieces
nah. 3v 3bb or 3v 2bb 1 malch. I have 3v 1bb 1env 1malch
man...
Wait so if Iβm using bracers boots how many Ven traits should I go for
I have 2 Ven one malch
@strange python you can use emoji in game chat?
Nice whisper 
@shrewd night I'm actually in 
Should I just sim relics now to see whatβll be better?
@strange python some of the builds require 3 vendettas.
@dire spoke Cancelling because Aggramar makes people show their wish to progress
so it depends on what you're doing
What do you mean what Iβm doing, like what build Iβm running?
wait wtf happened
WTF
I PUT MY RELIC IN
AND IT CHANGED THE MASTER OF ASSASINS TRAIT TO -0.07
INSTEAD OF THE 9 IT WAS BEFORE
haha
WHEN I HAD IT IN THE EXTRA SLOT
π€¦
Lol
βΏ
thats just 2vend with shoulder
thats why you sim relic before putting it in
WTF?
with shoulders we run 1 or 3. with bracer boot we run 0 1 2 3
tbh i fell for the trick once too but still
it feels good when it happens to someone else
most people I like 3 best.
I dont use the addon, but he probably checks for the current MA value, not the current +1 level
the script has a value for the 2nd vend at the low weight
wtf...
so he prob had 0. added 1. has another, and it is a wash
Just get another one
and it gave me a high value
Ez
:d
Addon is 100% trolling you
π‘

it delays your vanish a bit.
the addon preview only shows current value not the value with the rest of your relics
blindly trusting crucibleweights 
I was tricksetered π‘
no you just were a bit silly
you can blindly trust crucibleweights as long as you remember the vendetta trait rules and can count
pretty sure you just didn't understand what you were doing
I never used this addon, because I know the values without it and I will always sim anyway
π€·
π‘
don't be angry, you will have plenty of time to get new ones until bfa
just sim boots/bracers
just quit until bfa unless you're a mythic raiding guild
orly
@lone junco what do u mean by 0 1 2 3

the # of relics you have @zenith cloak
Basically he's saying with boots+bracers there isn't a definite # you run unlike shoulders either being 1 or 3
wes got kokked
So I can run any amount of Ven relics and I wonβt be losing out on dps
what did wes do

@zenith cloak One should always sim relics.. Unless you want to be like wes
that surprise you like that
vendetta is always good
@strange python just hold your vanish until the 3rd vendetta. its about a 30sec delay. unless the fight is short.
untill you get a 3rd vend
boots = brainless vendetta
shoulders = counting vendetta
I have 2 Ven 1 malch but the malch rolled Ven trait, so is that good enough
sim it with relic compare on raidbots.
you need 2vend before you can get 3. so I dont really see a problem.
btw, I think if he had checked the box, it would have adjusted numbers to account for his current weights.
π€
oh no, I'm poison with 29/202
that will happen with low crit. enjoy shoulders then
You guys always use shoulders? my bracer/boots combo is simming 40k higher then shoulder/boot or shoulder/bracer
just trust in the sim eh?
yes
kk ty
or if you really enjoy the shoulders you can play it too
damage >:)
@molten flicker alac build is 2233121 right?
yes
1.74 mil without shoulders 1.70 with

noobe said 2222221
I was kidding with the 2221 but i have run that
Alac is EP/Subterfuge/Vig/Alac/VV
but you can sim the talents.
nop too late not trusting you anymore
high crit. ideally 45/135 bracer boots. 3vend.
never playing alacrity now
thats fine. I dont trust anyone
Does anyone have the link to simulate my own relic values
lucky? alac is a pretty lame rotation. nothing exciting.
if it isnt your top, then w/e
EP TB is fine as well. esp with high crit.
EP TB sounds like a pain in the bumm
it's this aggramar head I tell you
I also wear it
Shiennar a proper princess 
I got a tiara and everything
Awesome
nothing I have beats my bleed. so w/e. yall poison bois can play alac i guess π

(ep alac is my highest poison by a reasonable margin)
but still sucks
I do have more hps at least. the ilvl is a lot higher without 2p20
Bleedy boi is way too hard

2p4p poison boi is max faceroll
Just press buttons, profit
Nice fishing
it worked well
lel
simc doesnt like it but I do
But since I never came close to the right gear I also never bothered to learn
So how would I know
@spare cloud it wrecks my avg rupture values.
but this was about 100k over my simc avg
20M ruptures on those larger peaks.
biggest ive gottenis 27M
oh joy
how many fucking cloak relics are there
better question. why did the fucking class creators think "oh yeah. every player is definitely gonna go after the cloak relic"
yeah. rng for the shit show
Im still maddest about destroying relics.
Id haev a bag full of 955 -975 to swap out as needed.
the systems wack
i did
lol
oh no wait
chest day is tomorrow
US boyz got it today
@zealous dew I could prob run Shoulder bracer tonight. and drop the meme bombs.
would prob beat a few records, but doubt it would be many.
go for it
Ill do Kingo for sure.
i wiped Varith like that last week.
π
I got aids 3x in a row
pretty savage
whats the max ilvl weps you can have? just curious
saw a 1003
saw a 1007
holy fuck
mine is 1002 with 965 965 985
dunno which relics the guy had
also saw 985 RF TF glaives on prot pala
Sub not ded 
980 soul shadows and weak point, 980 weak point and ES, and a 970 precision strike and gutripper = 1005
@zealous dew is the M+ tourney geared from a vendor like arena tourney ? or is it progression gear
and do less dmg than sin with 72 arti and 977 ilvl arti with shit relics
really? is assa that much better ?
What's the highest dps build for assassination? Poison or bleed?
Should ditch some of those for more gutripper glory
M+ goodness
i got this one one 960 http://www.wowhead.com/item=152048/decimator-crankshaft&bonus=3610:1472
Higher dps? Poison or bleed build?
Not his question tho 
i dont know if this is the case for PVE but do you boys remember in the start of expac how it was a roller coaster between different specs with all the tuning and stuff. Its like every two weeks there was a fotm spec, felt bad you had to grind all weps.
can u guys help me decide pls?
http://prntscr.com/iqqobq
he did sim it
its 1k DPS
oh play poison then
@wide delta bracer boot or shoulder bracer. and how many other vend do you have?
ez
shoulder bracer and i already got 3 vend traits
im at 3 MA and 3 Vend traits
the 960 Strangler / Vend would replace my 940 Vend / MA relic
but its strangler and I simmed it and its only 1k dps loss but I would lose 1 MA trait
help me @lone junco
π
if you have 3vend 3malch, do not swap in a garrote for a 0.1 % gain.
check your 2T sims.
so how viable is exang build atm ?
i get cautious for less than 0.5% uptrades
i actually would lose 0,1% DMG if I swap the 940 for the 960 one
2nd Trait would be the same
post the relic compare.
not just the ss
TLDR strangler sucks
@Dr.Runsen#2331 if you can get all the requirements, it is really good avg dps. lower max than shoulder bracer, but we dont worry about pbomb as much.
what do u mean with "if u can get all the requirements" ?
@lone junco relic compare?
Bleed: 2p4p. Bracer boot. 3vend. +/- 45/135.
That's a good plan. I bet people get their britches twisted when they roll in 15 ilvl down and expect to pull the same.
If you have a 985 glaive can you use it, or no
like the tank trinket from vh, 5 targets get 17xx versa per enemy hit
lf 1 DD for aggra
ye
i'll join π
Gl
ez
Don't fall off.
@lone junco i'm pretty sure items are capped, being a different realm/server you have to create the char from 0
boost it, get profs, get items, sort uis etc
Good. That's the way arena tourney was run.
Arena players use scripts to move frames. But no addons at all.
Just got my explosive orb WA last night. Oh man it is nice.
dayuum this assa shit. first killed boss with this spec hc garothi and 2.1kk dps just lol with 73 traits only. in sub i was struggle keepin up with 1.9k dps there....
and posion bomb only 6% . so i can do same rotation and get even more with luck.., why i didnt changed month ago 0-0-00
Ilvl is prob doing the work. Mastery is pretty good.
965 eqioped
Nb
but good relics i think
Sounds high though. We're there shitters in raid you were carrying?
i pull on garothi in hc 2-2,1 with 963^^ best with pb proccs was 2,3 or 2,4kk
and prolly i did many mistakes too, coz first time after training dummy. but spec feels right
lol
3 vendetta relics
i know that feel
i have the worst luck when it comes to recruiting for m+
how is it that 2 968 people pull 500k+ dps less than me
i saw few days in a raid a 971 ele with 1,5kk on st π on gartohi myth
I read that as them doing 500K dps
what ilvl are you and what spec did they play
That does seem low. That was overall?
3 man tank comps
If I did sub 2 Id delete char probs
2 buyers
Sub 2M
what
What?
what??
what???
oh wtf tom

you get beat by a clicker don't start
What the hell
So at each new raid I take notes and summarize boss strat. Here is garothi.
He beat me one time with insane Pb whilst I had some of the worst pb
Nice
he still beat you tho
huh
not you xaethron sorru
Not sure if ignorant or just a little slow 
that hd thinking doesn't look that hd to me
π€

and no not overall. those were boss fights. literally wiped medivh and almost wiped mana wyrm
good question mr chinese letter guy
Korean?
Indeed
You have a manga avatar
idfc
Imagine liking anime in 2017
i'm ignorant
lul
But what about 2018?
i cba changing it
2018 its okay
find me a better pic and ill fix
Itβs me dabbing
id rather like anime
This is clearly a superior pic
you're inferior tho
You can DAB on your haters
5,6
Prime height to eat your gf out baby boy
my gf is also short tho
What the
You'd have to get one first Tom
so you're not prime
@hoary copper I broke up with my last gf dude I donβt want another one
It sucked wouldnt reggimend
Recommend
btw too many times i find myself with 4cp. is it normal?
vegan π
Vegan crossfitter dumped ya huh?
^
kk
thought i need to env at 5 for ideal. wrong ye?
doesn't matter
Someone hasnt read the guide
see. 2.1m on garothi, and bumbling the rotation. Sin ezmode
every time i get 2cp2cp i want to uninstall right there on the spot.
you can't get to 5cp from 4cp without garrotte
yeah finish on 4/5
i read. just cant remember everything from guide. iam at practice stage of learning
ok
@north basin its fine. env uptime during kb. Try to get 3 env in the TB window. Dont vanish without vendetta. ezpz
rip playing wow is a closed book exam, read it once and pray
okey tnx. gona try to muscle memory this stuff
I have to have my phone on a page if I'm on an old alt or new character especially for rotations and openers until I get it down
I use 2nd monitor and keep stuf flike this up
We donβt date ahah
Really not looking to date rn
that double mut hurts
@shrewd oriole other than pancakes, they will just fuck up our school and cry when you have to stay late to do work/school/games.
I can't read that language
nbd.
fucking japanese
ye same / opened log rotation from top assa rogues
Exactly noobe
thats a good start
there are some very specific reasons the open is that way. and its a good one.
pro tip 2, dont fuck up your bracer vanish.
yall shoulder people have to pray for the 3gcd prior
I'd first make sure everything in the guide is done correctly
@strange python π
opener is the easiest. but when it comes to midfight decisions. there i struggle now
Try to get your timings right
if you ever want to be roasted. We will find your mistakes
i might switch to boosts and wrists
just play exsang you're only competing against half a dozen other people then
like the time I did this
i might even switch to sub
so, I get in this situation all the time, my second vanish is off cd when the boss is at like ~38%, so I just hold everything for an extra 30 seconds? because if you're holding vanish, then you would need to hold vendetta and tb and kb ..
lmfao
@strange python smooth as butter.
what happened there
might even switch to outlaw
@strange python what do you mean exactly
is it worth holding cds longer than 10's if it'll get you into the 35% range
the 2nd is prepping and fish. 3rd is the vanish rupture, prob didnt need that last garrote
35% range?
btw with bracers . when i come to 30% and my deps like2kk. i will finish fight with how much dps?
30%
i forgot if it was 30% or 35%
depends on how you play the last 30%
rey that depends on how long the execute is, etc
and like 1min of 30 to 0
(:
toph are you there
higher than it was before the 30%
if TTD < 1min yes.
No
fuck it im playing gw2
if you are on your very last vendetta and vanish but above bracer, hold that shit
like, if everything is off cooldown at like ~40% health, do I literally sit there and hold them all for 30% vanish?
No
if you are on your last vanish but have more than 1min, hold the vanish until you can get to it
but when people say hold the vanish
You use vendetta when the boss ttd > vendetta cooldown+20 secs
you still have to then hold every other cooldown
coz when i play my warior and i go exe phase i go up to 200-300k dps . wanted to know how much bracers for rogues gives
thats in the 60 sec range
warrior execute is a lot stronger
also shorter
so we talk about 100-150k dps for rogue maybe?
No because it depends on the situation
200-300k for warrior execute is bullshit as well
average lets say
but you have to play warrior to get warrior execute so in the end it's not worth it
I'd like to try warrior but idk
Warrior is more fun than rogue π€·
fury is carpal tunnel simulator, and arms is roll the dice simulator
fury warrior is zzzz
Lol no
Warrior, DH, DK and Hunter are the only ones I dont have at 110. DH I'm just lazy
fury is not even that fast paced
arms is pray for tactician
compared to dh
Zempai is topping dps in his raid
I wonder if they know that they are getting topped by a clicker
they do
but they didn't believe he was one
a small part of me wants it to be a prank
@north basin remember bracers buff DP. Kb. Bleeds. Pbomb. not env. so spamming env isnt going to peak. vendetta Vanish pb in bracer peaks. hard.
Opener looks so fun
do bracers buff toxic blade
wouldnt that mean for poison that vanish rupture is better
at exec
assuming your cd have lined up?
where, on the logs, can I see when the boss dropped below 30%?
look for when your damage boosted tf up without pb procs
oh i guess boss - resources - health
or that
lol toph
Yes?
@strange python we use high mastery stack EP exang. Kb and bombs are still there. and we have plenty of crit. I think Exang is best use of bracers
kk ty
@north basin
it is a bit nutty
im doing normal farm pug and like even though killtimes are super fast that bracer exsang vanish combo pulls be up ~100k ish
does wowanalyzer finally support sin rogue?
i assume that's what that is from noobe
poison
thats funny me at 6.25 jhonwei at 6.23
guess it depends on bomb procs in the bracer
he doesnt use shoulders, so that was as close as i care to look
too many factors
does he us 4p0p bracer/boot?
@strange python it pulls out data, but the rotation is not supported
2p4p
bracer boot mp tb
ye
hes like 975








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