Especially if they are not used to the raid damage.
#assassination
civic palm
lean hill
I usually get a bop after I proc cheat death, then get healed, then the bop
quick talon
you saw nothing jack
shrewd oriole
those bosses were meant to be done like 25 ilvls lower than what we are rn
lean hill
My now isn't your now lol
civic palm
If you are looking at parsing and not learning.
quick talon
Is this still the assassination channel?
lean hill
We can't kill imonar at the moment, bridges are hard
quick talon
We're talking about IRL racials and this guy having sex with this mom
void pecan
someone asked a real question.
quick talon
O
blissful crown
π π
civic palm
You took us back on topic you fucker.
shrewd oriole
giving me dating tips as well
shrewd oriole
100%
sudden trench
Morning guys
exotic glen
when is ur date tom
quick talon
Tom is that girl
sudden trench
I have a question - I got a new relic from raid last night
lean hill
Sim it
exotic glen
sim it
civic palm
sudden trench
MA went to 0.07
lean hill
Do you have 1 already
civic palm
2MA?
lean hill
Cause 2 MA doesn't do anything
lean hill
3 yes
civic palm
Keep it for when you have 3.
void pecan
3 is good
exotic glen
3 is gut
void pecan
2 is bad
lean hill
There there /comfort
sudden trench
π¦
lone junco
Their there they're.
civic palm
ffffffffff
crystal fox
theyer
lean hill
Now you're just making things up
exotic glen
thereye
crystal fox
theirey're
civic palm
Alright, back to your normally scheduled show.
crystal fox
do i use kb before tb? or save
crystal fox
save rupture for garrote?
shrewd oriole
"What addon do you use to make your screen grey? most other streamers I see have colors on their ui but yours is always grey and your char is ghostly! sick!"
lul
crystal fox
tom is always dead
exotic glen
think ur supposed to save your envenom cd for vanish
gotta maximize that weak point window
blissful crown
envenom cd?
crystal fox
dont listen to us
blissful crown
;D
crystal fox
we are just thoting around
civic palm
95% of this Discord is not to be trusted.
blissful crown
Im just doing it cause thats what others do
crystal fox
higher burst iirc
crystal fox
get out bleedy boy
exotic glen
Tomb Bands
void pecan
We don't need your toxicity Flowi.
viscid helm
>
>
void pecan
We were nice and friendly before you showed up.
exotic glen
yeah
crystal fox
alac βΏ rity
exotic glen
what are you progressing @quick talon
crystal fox
lfr
exotic glen
inb4 antorus hehehe
quick talon
sadly still coven
crystal fox
#benched?
quick talon
Wish i was
exotic glen
are you topping dps
crystal fox
think we had like 1-3 melee at most on coven
viscid helm
nothing wrong with melee
exotic glen
@quick talon are there any streams up?
quick talon
no I dont think so
fervent beacon
I'm getting 100% benched for coven, feelsgoodman. Date time.
quick talon
nice
vestal wren
coven is probably worst boss for melees in the entire xpack
void pecan
Standing helpless away from the boss waiting for storm to end.
crystal fox
indeed
viscid crown
hey where can i find a WA where combo points are 5 squares?
fervent beacon
My guild is only taking 2 melee dps 
viscid helm
make one
viscid crown
not sure where to start#
viscid crown
will do, cheers
exotic glen
np, good luck
viscid crown
ill give it a go π
safe matrix
I'll see if I can find a screencap of it
viscid crown
civic palm
I can make one for you if you don't find something you like.
strange python
!relics
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
manic vigil
@lone junco 
new record. 6% skill, 100% pbomb (wink wink flowi)
viscid crown
switching to assass is one of my best decisions in wow
lone junco
looks good
safe matrix
lone junco
2.2 is nice
safe matrix
those combo points
manic vigil
show me
safe matrix
xDddDdDDDDDDdd
civic palm
π
viscid crown
imma make another WA where when you shadowstep it just yells nothing personnel kid
void pecan
Almost every single finisher
civic palm
@lone junco π
viscid crown
vari normal omegalul
manic vigil
still a shit-ton of pb kek
viscid crown
yarp
manic vigil
show me the way of the pbomb
lone junco
i forsook the bomb
safe matrix
I dont get people who macro things with phrases
primal elm
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rNg8D9H64XGZQBpd#fight=last&type=casts&source=10&view=timeline Hi guys can you help me ? What im doing wrong in kingaroth ?
safe matrix
its only ever funny the first time
manic vigil
I still sim 1.95
viscid crown
people who have a /y when they pop cds? @safe matrix
manic vigil
with 960 ish
void pecan
965 at 2.05 forme.
lone junco
1.95 is about my shoulder
viscid crown
had that for a while coz my mate made me a crusade WA for ret, but yeh, it got tiring
gleaming dust
for m+ which combo of wrists/boots/shoulder would be best? also 910 crit stat stick or 940 eoc?
manic vigil
also killed my first mythic boss today look at me becoming a big boi eventually
signal ice
Wrist shoulders.
void pecan
@manic vigil that's where I'm at.
signal ice
Gratz uni!!
manic vigil
gotta start at some point right?
safe matrix
wrists/shoulders
viscid crown
@manic vigil PogChamp they grow up so fast
lone junco
1 for each exang
manic vigil
thanks guys
timber gyro
Is there a way I can setup a weak aura so when poison bomb goes off it says it in party or raid chat so tanks dont kite out of it?
safe matrix
yeap
viscid helm
yes
safe matrix
check wago
lone junco
just dont bomb until they stop moving
signal ice
Yes there is.
viscid helm
but who the fuck is gonna pay attention to that
safe matrix
^
timber gyro
^
viscid helm
i would drag the mobs out of just becuase there is some stupid yell being spammed
pliant yacht
timber gyro
I wouldn't /yell it
signal ice
My tank would move the mobs out just to troll me :D
hearty lily
hey
signal ice
Hi
crystal fox
whoa
void pecan
a blessing.
hearty lily
HAIL!
lone junco
lurking
crystal fox
ALL HAIL STJERN
hearty lily
I can die now
lone junco
prob excited by my Bota luck
pearl terrace
Stjern teach me how to play rogue
crystal fox
(X) Doubt
pearl terrace
Stjern-sama
civic palm
<~~ cat... ears
manic vigil
I'm a cat person, got two of those myself
crystal fox
weeb
manic vigil
still somewhat scary avatar
crystal fox
whoa
manic vigil
back to sin. Got a 960 memento in my chest. Sims better thanb my heroic fang. Do we like it? What exactly does it do?
xD
crystal fox
its good
shrewd oriole
safe matrix
I have no desire to fuck a cat
manic vigil
I already used it today in those juicy parses but I don't see it in the logs π€
shrewd oriole
I did 3.2M overall
viscid helm
civic palm
More OK with fucking a monkey then ehhhhhhhh?
civic palm
oshitboi
safe matrix
Also good news, my guild just switched into 2 nights raiding mythic
nstead of a half day per week
π
tiny vapor
Hi guys ! Do we agree that it's always Toxic Blade -> Kingsbane ?
shrewd oriole
@viscid helm did u see pathfinder?
viscid helm
yeh
civic palm
Yeah and the non-changes.
safe matrix
unless the cooldowns get messy
shrewd oriole
looks sick
civic palm
Not like PF needed changes > _>
safe matrix
then you do TB for the last 8 sec of kb or soemthing
viscid helm
PF didnt need changes
safe matrix
its in the guide
viscid helm
they did change charges from 1 every 3s to 3 every 3s
civic palm
Assassin needed changes and looks great.
safe matrix
which is at the top of this page ^^
tiny vapor
And what do you think about this trinket for Sin ?
civic palm
Yeah they made it better when you cannot smash things to regain charges.
strange python
Tom go sub π€¬
viscid helm
i just wanna see elementalist
safe matrix
Sub died to make sin great
civic palm
I was bummed at every Shadow asc. =\
safe matrix
KJBW is kinda trash
civic palm
Raider probably won't see a rework either, though they could do something about the ramp up for lower levels.
tiny vapor
Still good if I have nothing else I guess. Too bad :('
civic palm
LL Champion incoming though > _>
safe matrix
and you can always sim your best gear/legendaries on raidbots.com/simbot
shrewd oriole
yeah elementalist needs a rework
fleet lion
Hello Guys !
safe matrix
!
fleet lion
Raidbots and AskMrRobot are telling me different things for best in bags... Who should I trust? D:
viscid crown
raidbots
viscid helm
AMR
viscid crown
amr in the current year of our lord and savior?
fleet lion
Well.. xD
safe matrix
raidbots is so good
and amr has really let itself go
sortof like someone who WAS prom queen
but let themselves go
civic palm
But they were also never prom queen.
fleet lion
Well okay then
safe matrix
if you go to #subtlety I just did a quick write up on how to get started with raidbots
cause the addon is actually pretty darn useful compared to the armory sim
civic palm
I remember people raving about AMRs Reforging addon, but from what I remember everyone used that Lite Reforging addon and didn't give AMR a second chance.
viscid crown
reforgelite never 4get
fleet lion
Yeah but raidbots is more expensive tho :/
fleet lion
Yeah if you want to BiB 3 items :/
viscid crown
just need a bit of patience and do your sims at like 10 am on tuesday when nobody s on
daring trench
Hi guys, is it possible that Raidbot oversim the 2p gloves/boots from cos/arc? i get 36% crit and wanted to change crit piece for vers/mastery to get back to 31% crit but it sims higher with the 2p even with 36% crit :/
viscid helm
why would it "oversim" them?
what does that even mean
4pc + that 2pc with mantle/bracer
is prob the highest simming setup
you can have
as Sin
since the 2set is more valuable than crit/mast offpieces
steady bane
What legendary do you guys use for m+ trash? Is wrist worth there?
daring trench
ok ok i thought 36% crit was too much so i absolutely wanted to reduce it, but i guess i'll stay with that crit and the 2p
lone junco
@daring trench I have like 46%. So just work with what you have.
It's what stat weights and pawn are for.
daring trench
ok thanks for the answers guys π
lone junco
pawn ignores the bonus.
steady bane
Can you help noobe?
What legendary do you guys use for m+ trash? Is wrist worth there? in 15-22 m+
viscid helm
yeh champion looked decent
viscid helm
i mean PF is 15%+ and Assassin is perma 20%
pine tusk
Switched mains at the start of this raid tier so I'm still a noobie rooj - but can someone tell me why insignia of Ravenholdt is simming so high for me? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hFabqUcbfBeVuFFTi2uXrx
viscid helm
yeh but group play 
shrewd oriole
quick talon
nice apes
@shrewd oriole i expect alot of pictures friday
Act like youre making some snapchat selfies
but you really have the other cam on
big tricks
quick talon
this is alacrity
shrewd oriole
outlul gear
strange python
Does the fang trinket have different proc rates compared to m+ and raids?
Maybe I'm insane, but the agility proc is almost always active in my opener during m+, but in raids, nada
quick talon
Maybe thats just selective memory
strange python
I guess.
shrewd oriole
confirmation bias dunno
quick talon
Why are you ditching this channel π¦
stark tinsel
Is it ok to refresh rupture during KB if it drops off or do you just envenom and refresh when KB is over? Should you be aiming to make sure your rupture covers KB duration before popping it?
supple hearth
I'm not ditching
stark tinsel
Very new to sim so apologies if this is dumb.
quick talon
I'd refresh rupture b4 I apply KB even if it isnt in pandemic timer
Youre too busy with your #pvp and transmog channel giggle
u used to be very active here
Golden muted days we had
stark tinsel
K ty mate.
supple hearth
Dw
supple hearth
Such as?
quick talon
What about this guy
who was doing his own mother
and still had a GF
Pure alpha male
even his daddy was okay with it
shrewd oriole
LOL
supple hearth
Ive heard of worse scenarios. There's always someone out there who has it worse. He can count that as a blessing j guess
normal plover
@quick talon gross
quick talon
Rayanne it wasnt me dw
Giggle i'd like to hear of those worse scenarios youre talking about
quick talon
Later? M8 its 1:21 am here
broken drum
hey guys quick question, where can i look up the CP munching of a log?
lost horizon
Resources tab
gilded lark
Resources
broken drum
thx!
gilded lark
@quick talon does that make you your own step dad
quick talon
Sure
supple hearth
Truly an important quality of every alpha male
supple hearth
Nice edit
quick talon
He's like the true definition of an alpha male
supple hearth
See u don't need me here
quick talon
we all do
gilded lark
We do?
patent delta
RIDE OR DIE
gilded lark
quick talon
I kinda get this guy tho
in germany you say
"besser widerlich als wieder nicht"
which means like
gilded lark
That just sounds angry
quick talon
Translated its like uh "Rather disgusting than not at all"
shrewd oriole
12 uppers this week
gilded lark
You need rehab
calm grail
12 eyes?
safe matrix
I see you're trying not to waste the uppertunity
calm grail
gilded lark
quick talon
hate it when they drop into my ukara run
gilded lark
Farm arcway
quick talon
or DHT
calm grail
I'm just hoping that my weekly chest will bless me someday
calm grail
You're EU though right?
quick talon
or well
gilded lark
No
quick talon
na
calm grail
Oh thank God.
gilded lark
Na alliance
quick talon
π
gilded lark
Yeah you're the moonguard π€’
gilded lark
Rofl
calm grail
It's a long story, but I came here back in Wrath because this is where my friend rolled.
safe matrix
owo
calm grail
That's a long time from now.
Why don't you go ahead and tank at like 8 a.m. tomorrow morning?
I have the day off.
calm grail
Ahh you're PST aren't you?
gilded lark
Try 4pm 
calm grail
I'm EST.
calm grail
Works for me. I'm going as Sin though βΏ
calm grail
Yeah, my schedule today is 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., my shift is almost over. Then I have raid from 8:30 until 11:30.
gilded lark
I get off work at 1130
calm grail
Kingaroth progression. Yeah my guilds βΏ but we're trying.
gilded lark
But you'll hit 1130 before me lol
646 here and i have a 30 min drive home
So earliest ill be around is like 1215 central
But if we're both off tomorrow :+1:
I'd say RH m+ day but I'm not taking 3 melee on quaking 
surreal cypress
Ass is the best
gilded lark
Tits a close second
shrewd oriole
Soyboy
foggy lotus
i have a question what would be a better trinket combo the purple pantheon trinket and the legendary pantheon trinket or the purple pantion trinket or legendary patheon trinket and the shadow-singed fang ?
tired thistle
Wondering kind of the same here i have Pantheon and a 960 Eye of command which is my next highest trink wish i had a 960 shadow singed fang
safe matrix
Don't talk badly about that 960 eoc, people are trying their hardest to get that
craggy kindle
Pretty sure you guys should just sim it
foggy lotus
is ask mr robot a good place to sim?
safe matrix
No
Simming your gear and stat weights is a pretty easy and powerful way to know how to advance your character. You can sim which stats you need, optimal gear and talent set ups, and theoretical dps.
How to:
- download the simcraft add on from either twitch or https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/simulationcraft
- Type /simc in game which pulls up a window of text, copy this text.
- Go to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot pick what you want to sim and paste into the sim box.
- (Optional) change sim options to do AoE or change fight length.
- Hit sim and get your results.
tired thistle
yeah i lucked out so hard had a 940 Scourgewing then got the EoC out of weekly chest
safe matrix
I got this shit on lock
tired thistle
Saw that post over on the Sub Chanel aswell π
safe matrix
Cause I posted it
manic vigil
skill π
celest mirage
you know it
signal ice
10/10 Pb skill.
manic vigil
signal ice
Would you like to see my most skilful opener??
I got last night during m Argus prog??
celest mirage
only got a 96. must of fucked up somewhere lol
is it best to save vendetta for every add phase?
urban storm
must have
manic vigil
signal ice
There may or may not have been 3 ppb proc in a row during vanish....
manic vigil
signal ice
Dw. We wiped really quickly on that pull.
manic vigil
prime void
Triple pb is the dream
signal ice
Yeah I saw my details hit 10mil dps and I was like "yeah we are going to wipe early...."
upper canyon
do you hold vendetta for vanish?
signal ice
The other way around.
safe matrix
Other way around I though
signal ice
I would only hold vendetta if vanish is like.. 10 sec off from cd??
Actually. No. I'm explaining it wrong.
Since vendetta lasts for 20 seconds, as long as there is a 5 second Window for vendetta for vanish, you won't have yo hold vanish
But say you have 30 sec off from vanish and vendetta is ready
Then I would hold vendetta for 10 seconds. Maybe.
safe matrix
You can hold it over a fight, but you don't want to ever hold it so long that you would lose a use of it over the whole fight
signal ice
Then go into vendetta with 15 sec left of vanish.
safe matrix
But that's semi hard to judge so just hold vanish for it
signal ice
Yeah. It depends on fight length.
But for safety. Hold vanish for vendetta. Vendetta on cd.
Attempt to align kb / Tb for vendetta.
But never hold any of these for more than 5 seconds apart from vanish.
keen inlet
signal ice
Take that rule with a grain of salt.
strange python
!relics
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
signal ice
Since it's situational... But it's the core concept.
valid plank
wat
ivory leaf
if i were to go sin id have 20k mastery = 230%
valid widget
So when is blizz going to make poison bomb an actual ability
gilded lark
Looking at bfa alpha, they aren't.
valid widget
those dicks
keen inlet
sometimes I feel a little monkaS
faint tree
strange python
Is assassination viable for 2s with another dps or do I really need heals?
supple hearth
depends how high you want to climb. double dps is something that will never beat a good healer/dps combo. If you're a phenomenal player you can double rogue or rogue/mage or rogue/hunter but sub is the preferred spec because of theifs bargain - shorter vanish cd for resets and the control that it takes to lock someone down while you simutaneously kill their partner
its much easier with a disc priest
like
100000x easier
plain thistle
isnt like rogue-mage one of the most common comps for 2s?
supple hearth
sub/frost
strange python
Ok thanks!
pure forum
Anyone know how to make a simmed pawn string for myself?
supple hearth
@strange python the higher rating you go the less likely you'll be able to just brute force through people. you dont see very many double dps above 1700s
of any specs/classes
plain thistle
@pure forum https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/stats
pure forum
Danke
kind path
chrome tuskBOT
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
wide bolt
Help too
pure forum
So, for rupture I've been refreshing it at around >10~ Because i struggle to get up to five cp again if i wait any longer.
is that correct?
austere tendon
NO
sorry caps..
but still, no.
you want to refresh on pandemic timers. either 4-5 CP
safe matrix
pure forum
that would mean sometimes im going to have to sit and hold onto combo points.
austere tendon
the timers I can't rember off the top of my head. but 5CP rupture refresh at 7.2 sec and 4cp Rupture refresh at 5s
pure forum
for like 2 to 3 seconds
safe matrix
Envenom?
austere tendon
i mean... if you are going to Cap energy, then use envenom.
pure forum
i cant get back to 4 to 5 cp with less than 8 seconds left.
austere tendon
??
safe matrix
???
austere tendon
then pool energy for the 2-3 seconds.
you know its not a dps loss to let your energy pool right? just dont cap out your energy
safe matrix
It's also a dps loss to refresh at 10 cause you're overwriting buff
pure forum
So, 8~10 seconds left on rupture, not in pandamic yet, but im on low energy so i cant get my cp back up in time, i pool energy?
austere tendon
basically. You muti to 5 CP. you are at 0 energy. with 10 sec left on Rupture. You can hold for 3 sec wihtout capping energy. I promise.
safe matrix
Yeap
pure forum
alright, that was my worry
austere tendon
oooorrrr
say same thing. 5 cp rupture. but at 80 energy. 10 sec left on Rupture.
you can use envenom and then muti back to 5-4 CP.
before rupture runs out.
safe matrix
You can refresh lower too, it's just that pandemic caps at 30%
austere tendon
yeah the min max of pandemic is only reaally important if you are going to NS vanish rupture.
pure forum
that situation scrub just outlined is what i ran into a few times tonight and wasnt sure how to handle it.
got it now
austere tendon
if not. then as long as you refresh rupture inside pandemic and before ruputure wears off
pure forum
Yes
austere tendon
and that pandemic value changes from 4 cp to 5 cp
pure forum
you add ticks of the previous application onto the new one if you do it at the right time
pure forum
my WAs track pandemic ranges, i just want sure what to do uif its in the weird grey area of about to go into pandemic but not yet and im at low energy
if pooling isnt horrible in that situation, i understand now
safe matrix
I mean you don't have to refresh on max pandemic though
austere tendon
pooling is a useful tool.
safe matrix
Cause that buff duration will either tick now, or be added into the next buff and tick then
austere tendon
pooling died a little since TB + T21 made a huge influx of energy / always having things to do. but there are still moments where it can be better to pool some energy than to just keep spamming.
austere tendon
as a example. pooling energy before KB so yuou have the highest chance of getting 100% uptime of Envenom during KB.
pooling for Vanish windows.
things like that.
safe matrix
Honestly, if I'm not capping energy and I don't have a buff to refresh I semi pool
Cause there's no shadowtech in sin
So I can sit on points π€·
pure forum
I'll be honest, i havent been paying much attention to envenom buff or vanish.. im totally new to rogue. Still trying to wrap my head around everything
austere tendon
yeah the pooling periods kinda more or less come 1-2 seconds at a time now.
you can fit a couple of seconds of pooling between Surge debuffs.
strange python
does anyoen have a godo all purpose wa
safe matrix
The guide in the pins probably does ^^
onyx falcon
yea pooling is rare, its pretty much if you see that youre maybe 1-3 seconds off from getting vendetta to match your rotation you can pool a bit so you arent super energy starved before you get it (me using teh rotation where you TB last 9 secs of KB)
wide bolt
just type /tmw in chat again should do it
gaunt moat
π
safe matrix
no way jose
keen inlet
yaweh
civic palm
Already 1k, out of de weh.
civic palm
Pure garbage.
safe matrix
I actually didn't look at your picture when you said you were changing it to a cat boy
But I knew
It would be felix
fucking KNEW
civic palm
:3
keen inlet
D I S G U S T I N G
civic palm
oooshit the secret is out
marsh marlin
no
dire spoke
good morning 
fathom swift
is insignia of ravenholdt simming real high for anyone else?
civic palm
It's good.
fathom swift
with shoulders it's 20k above bracers or boots for me
civic palm
Sounds like poor replacement pieces.
safe matrix
You probably have really low crit too
civic palm
Boots are what?
safe matrix
And what are the bracers
fathom swift
boots are 960 socket bracers are 960 but have some haste
I'll just link sims would be easier
civic palm
crit/mastery ring will probably push boots or bracers over the ring
The non-Argus ring is vers/mastery as well ye?
safe matrix
Kingaroth is crit/mast
fathom swift
so part ilvl difference part lower crit?
civic palm
Run the SIM with - http://www.wowdb.com/items/152064-band-of-the-sargerite-smith?bonusIDs=3612,1502
in the Insignia slot and see if the boots/bracers are better then.
28% crit is fine
Most of the times when an "unconventional" legendary is beating something you expect it to, there are pieces of gear that are causing it.
lone junco
Looks like I had 12 mut crits in a row for argus. Pushes out good bomb at least.
civic palm
_>
lone junco
So what do mythic people do after argus? Alts or just afk till bfa
fathom swift
I'm doing alts
jovial kite
Go exsang
foggy beacon
keys
civic palm
Getting allied races?
lone junco
I did a few pulls as poison. But the rotation is silly compared to exang.
safe matrix
howso
civic palm
"Rotation"
lone junco
It's the 5cp
civic palm
SLACKPLEASE
jovial kite
Morning
civic palm
There's a fucked up curve in that.
civic palm
wtf is this?
lone junco
And high crit is nice. And shoulders are too short to be fun.
I'll take 45 sec CDs.
Afk till bfa.
civic palm
Time to make GIFS.
safe matrix
The rotation is too slow too
civic palm
The other curves are fine, just one that is messed up.
civic palm
Yeah well when you put out.
safe matrix
?????
civic palm
:3
safe matrix
π€·
slate rock
!relics
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
quick ice
@unreal coyote did the warlock finally put on his execute ring?
jovial kite
@unreal coyote grats!
real nymph
whats the best in slot assassination relics?
unreal coyote
!relics
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
simple python
Is Vanish > Envenom accurate with mantle and nightstalker? Guide says to but seems the default simc APL does rupture
simple python
β’ Use Vanish to apply rupture as often as possible if specced Nightstalker. β’ Do not override Nightstalker empowered Rupture in this case, let it tick until it falls off. β’ If you have Mantle of the Master assassin then you would cast Envenom instead of rupture.
That's from guide.. hmm I thought it was rupture too
spark pond
Guys, help please...
Boots is simming 10k over Bracers...but what do you prefer?
dont know wich one should I use
plain thistle
10k is almost "nothing"
bracer still better for progression, and boots sometimes can be clunky
spark pond
yeah, they are simming "equal", so, Im in doubt
plain thistle
like for mythic immonar, if you group has too much dps, even with boots you only get 1 vendetta per phase
I would still use bracer
plain thistle
yes, thats why I use boots+bracer for that boss π
fuck shoulders
but yes, boots allows you to vendetta for add-boss-add-boss-add-boss etc
spark pond
do you think bracers would be better over shoulders in Kin?
viscid helm
Well he said what hes using
civic palm
I do not think that Bracers are ever removed unless you are doing something cheeky.
plain thistle
yes, but thats because I use boots+bracer for every boos
I dont use shoulders at all
π
spark pond
yeah, I know he said that...maybe I dont made the right question...nvm
fervent beacon
What's your crit % at?
viscid helm
In no other fight do you get as much value from mantle as Kinga basically
plain thistle
32% or something, and 175% mastery
fervent beacon
and how many MA relic are you also running as well
spark pond
lmao, I got 212% mast and 21% crit...no wonder why crit is simming 2 points higher than mast lol
plain thistle
yup, its for me as well
dense helm
cose when ur poison crit it get u free energy
quick ice
Boots/bracer values crit slightly higher too.
warm parcel
Good morning bois
viscid helm
jovial kite
quick ice
π weak
molten vigil
Just came back to my rogue trying to get it caught up and on par, I quit mid ToS prog for a main swap. Played sub but going Mutt now, from what I understrand and correct me if I'm wrong, 1 MA is good, 2 is Bad? 3 is insane
viscid helm
2 isnt "bad"
molten vigil
so as it stands I have Toxic/Alch/MA my Alch rolls into MA with the string values i've imported from the pins its worth 17 vs the other path only adds 15 value
I don't have any, mutt leggos
warm parcel
You want 3 ma rfardless
molten vigil
right
dire spoke
3Ma without boots feelsstrangeman
molten vigil
I have 895 socket CoF from way back in the day, but zero mut leggos as stated, and I have 2 MA relics
not sure how hte spec is to feel because im only a PvP hero as far as rogue goes. never really raided as mutt
Feels StrangeMan right now because im so bad at it lmao
molten vigil
well, just got a 930 relic Gushing > Shock > MA
so once i finish hitting 75 real quick i'll 3 MA via relic rolls
dire spoke
your relics, crit value and offset pieces will pretty much define what lego comb. you wear
I can't swap anything without loosing dps
and the timing with 3MAss without boots is so strange
I think the apl even delays vendetta, unsure on that
viscid helm
Same id rather play boots but dropping 2 set is gonna be like +50k loss
dire spoke
yeah
well I don't have that meta-tier set 
but even dropping bracers for boots is worse
light sage
what addon is this?
dire spoke
could be weakauras
warm parcel
Quartz
And apl never delays ven
The 2/3 ma issue is just unfortunate lining of spells during an encounter
prime void
2 ma feels awful with bleedy, not so bad with poison
dire spoke
mhm
fervent beacon
That addon look very alike to classtimer
prime void
@plain thistle why using doggo neck ?
warm parcel
99% sure thats the auras of unconfed quartz
plain thistle
because its 970?
I currently dont have a single piece from dungeon, everything I use is from antorus
viscid helm
Why would you not use dog neck?
zealous dew
prob because has no crit and ppl are obssessed with crit these days
viscid helm
zealous dew
no clue, i just log LFR to prove that i'm good
random buttons ftw
and brag about it!
warm parcel
Cause it has never dropped π€
viscid helm
Dropped 1st week and you passed
strange python
@light sage It's the buffs function from Quartz
shrewd oriole
Morning
zealous dew
then don't play it π
shrewd oriole
Bleed is for soybois
You ever seen a top log that wasnβt bracers shoulders poison?
Thatβs cuz poisoners are chads
strange python
never thought that t20 is so strong, even with poison, i have 20k more dps than without t20
patent topaz
I only have shit t20 pieces that are decently high ilevel, 930 helm, 935 cloak and 945 gloves
shrewd oriole
T20 is low ilvl as well. Who uses low ilvl pieces? Iβll tell you: soyboys.
Gloves are good what u on about
P sure most people use gloves shoulders (if theyβre bleed)
(Which you shouldnβt be so this conversation is irrelevant)
patent topaz
My t21 cloak is 980 and helm is 960 which sim better than t20
shrewd oriole
Donβt replace your tier helm lol
patent topaz
I also do not play bleed
viscid helm
T20? Is this fucking 2k17?
patent topaz
I use t20 as sub
fiery nest
with mantle, hold vanish for vendetta, but never hold vendetta for anything right? (generally speaking)
fiery nest
word
viscid helm
If you dont play Alacrity yet, there is something seriously wrong with you
patent topaz
Dfa is cool but i got really triggered by it
shrewd oriole
Current sub does not feel good to play in raids
So Iβm glad itβs fucking shafted lol
fiery nest
practicing assass for m argus and beat almost every one of my 95+ percentile sub parses with fucking blue/purple asass parses still dont know wtf im doing
shrewd oriole
Nice
fiery nest
nice scaling btw
fiery nest
(scuffed realm alert) that #1 sub parse was 17 world, 99 percentile, the #5 assass parse was 65 percentile LOL
zealous dew
don't pop them
shrewd oriole
I have one of the best rogues in the world in my realm but he private logs :^)
viscid helm
Doesnt everyone priv log
viscid helm
But no one does heroic
viscid helm
Last time i did HC was prob good 4-5 months ago
fiery nest
why would you private log outside of being in a top 10ish world guild
viscid helm
Why would you public log?
fiery nest
why tho π€
fiery nest
good argument
dire spoke
jovial kite
To feel pride and accomplishment for winning the proc lottery
dire spoke
flexing imonar wipes on public logs
shrewd oriole
gilded lark
also fuck pugs man. I was tanking
viscid helm
Because of the information details provides
patent topaz
Another night of wipes on immonar felt good
dire spoke
yeah