#assassination
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Top kek
Id kms tbh
words only have the meaning you give them
get that guy in here
yes
Lol
And there are right and wrong meanings
I mean , i understand that misspoke , sue me english is not my 1st language , but myabe i hope you would get what i meant. Guess i was wrong
no we understand what you meant
theres no right or wrong
Iirc thats the guy that writes the MM guides
you just said it wrong and that fucked with the info you were trying to convey
and now you're a meme
So he played BM the next week
SUP
Who Eleem?
Azortharian or something like that
@jovial kite i know SOT isnt a Velf racial im tired and mixed up two people
nah
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his guildies came into trade getting everyone to pm him "nice relic"
that is a log off moment for him
What build for Assa is better rn, poison or bleed?
what you like playing
Haven't played Assa since Wrath so idk
What's the difference b/w the two?
Except bleeds and poisons
it depends on your stats. Crit and vers favor bleed, while stacking mastery favors poison.
Well I was rolling around in Outlaw till now
My gear gives me 30% crit and 93% Mastery
use raidbots to sim your talents and you'll know what's best.
outlaw is fun as shit imo
It is but I barely do more than 1.4m
you raid mythic?
No but I like to top dps charts lol
reroll ww
Atleast see my name in the top 10 when my ilvl is 938
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I'd like to stick to my class if that's okay with you guys?
aim for crit mas gear and go for poison
Thank you
simyoself and apply pin knowledge
look at warcraftlogs
Yeah will do
i love what arch from the warrior discord says about what you enjoy youll git gud at
i summed it up he is better with words then i
this early and you guys already with the memes
early implies i've slept
fuck up you memer
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We are more like the sentinels
Silent watchers if you will
We get activated by misinformation, retardation and bad english
What you see is a result of these triggers
"Memes" in mortal tongue
k(e)ys
Keep yourself simmed bois
Are you threatening my sim!?
mayhaps ๐ค
Heard it first from weak
Like week(s)? Ago
@warm parcel
or is he dead from blizzard
those finnish memes man
Its a solid advice ๐ค
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K eep Y ourself S immed
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that's a risky one
Is the meme in question
every morning before pooping
lucky none of the officiators of the camp were watching
We in a concentration camp now?
feels like more in a jungle with a bunch of trained monkeys
no offense to monkeys of course
and the mods ban everybody
I sure as hell aint trained
Im the result of stringing 10 monkeys together like a caterpillar
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Or.. centipede if you wish
concentration camp?
le risky meme
MonkaS

w e w
s a v e d
Every body still sleeping ma dude
๐ you gotta shake it off
Oh Shieee why are you in discord then, why aren't you striking
too few insults here today. this chat is not toxic enough
someone please post some logs to mock
@zealous dew Fuck you pal ๐
Im at work
Im not a part of any union
Im gucci fam
I couldve struck if i wanted though
Since its a political strike affecting the whole country
Wouldnt get paid though
You're a god playing everyone
Im just a memer
Guys is sin also bundled with this spell queue window stuff? After vanished i can just env mut env mut env
ofc it matters if you fiddled with the settings
How many envenoms doring mantlebuff should i get?
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You can do 4 envs if u know the way
Can't 4env if you vanish cheap shot, hey @midnight latch?
@midnight latch the only dead meme here is you
you can 5 env if you cheapshot
Washed up sub
washed up ๐ฎ
Flowi wasnt the one who said it
Rude boi
It was you
I know
I member
I still have 6/7 PK and 960ilvl ๐คท
6/7 PK 
2+4 with mantle/bracer was 60k gain
try 4+4 with prydaz+valeera, it's a 72k gain for me
How does that work
go to the bank, equip gear, join a LFR and top meters
6/7 pk washed up fok player
7/7pk unenmployed here
: (
I went up 50k by going void elf 
Blame APL, it's always broken
Depends on what you're going from
I mean 50k for me
I'm undead ๐
yeah I guess
what on alli is that bad tho
what's gnome's racial
cuz human is great, dwarf is great
50k wtf
I'd be at 2.3 with an extra 50k
Alright, I liked its more like 40k
Actually
Thats inaccurate
gnones get extra resource right>
I see that in the previous one I dont have the mythic tier cloak equipped
lol
on the sim it's 32k
not even 40
with ur cloak
it's gonna be like 10k or something
that's way different than 50k
lol
nice fucking clickbait
๐ค
~I was already typing up a reddit post claiming alliance favoritism
LOL
too much alliance in the rogue campaign tbh
NEW ALLIED RACES ARE OP? GAME IS P2W? [NOT CLICKBAIT] [REAL]
[GONE SEXUAL]
๐ ๐ ๐ who did this ๐ ๐ ๐
Its basicly a reskinned belf
Dunno why they even added it
how's the racial?
HEY, ITS A BELF WITH TENTACLE HAIR
Dunno, havent done anything. Went to bed right after activating race change
how can u sim different racials on raid bots?
Went in the history and picked a sim from three days ago
You edit the race line ๐
new races arent on simbots yet?
Oh they arent?
what really?
HAH, then its way more than 32k
race=blood_elf > race=nigthborne
maybe they updated it in the last day
boiii, ima be 2,3m with this
ye
cause the 1% buff to poison damage
it should be close to belf
finally weekend, but ofcourse,yesterday snow was 90% melted away, and this morning i had to wake up to a fucking snowstorm
it's not rppm tho is it
Belf should be better than nightborne any day of the week. Increased chance to double damage > 1% total
Its a proc, so cant really do anything than ๐
im really new to assasination and rogue overall, vigor or deeper stratagem in poison build?
Crit dawg
not in bfa 
kek
How much?
1k
Mastery > crit
oh no
So makes sense
I mean
will I do
I mean there's also sim error
that nightborne isnt bad
Does nightborne have aoe silence tho
no
BOOM
I never change my mog xd
I change it once a tier
Can we put troll rank on Tom, notter`
I usually wear a mog that incorporates some pieces of the current mythic tier
So when you get a new piece of gear, you dont go back to transmog it?
or the full set itself if I like it
Once a tier 
Nah, my mog is always super fucked if I get loot aha
Tom - The burning crusade experience in 2018
ahaha I'm not really that focused on the graphics
You probably raid with a 600x400 resolution
I think the only thing Ive turned down is shadow, because why would you need that anyways
IMMERSION
My good screen is broken
D:
I need to buy another 144hz screen, but kinda waiting for the sales to roll around
same
I got some cash but I was saving for other stuff
the screen I have rn is ok-ish
enough for wow tbh
Considering there is this blind dude beating mythic bosses, that is a true statement
haHAA "at least that's how my guildies seem to play, with their screen off"
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I used to raid with a blind guy
Im a fury warrior
ur digusting
Ur a roge
AHAHA
ur a furry
ddue
I have 15% increased damage taken
furry warrior
did u see that meme
maybe?
Thinkin
you're a rouge
Top meme
im a fury warrior
What kind of shit tier giuld is this where someone is allowed to say shit like that
Like, if I had been there I would have roasted him worse than hiroshima
Tanek wr1 furie
@molten flicker 985+s raid finder ftw
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UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Did he use vendetta at range?
fucking
what the heck
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nah I checked
he was coming off bridge
walking up to the boss
he's at 170 energy
and casts vendetta
at range
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Im a second tier rogue
I save cloak for bridge so I can warlock portal through the balls
The melee camp would had a heart attack if I cloaked canisters anyways 
God knows I have one every time
See, whenever I cloak one
he immediately decides to cuck me
and hit me with the next one too
kek
the mid tier fights this tier
are super cool
imonar and kingaroth for ๐
fuck kinga
Nah kinga is nice aslong as u dont play sub
kinga is aids unless you have a 985 drinking horn
if you dont fall through the floor that fight
sub is great
cause the second shadowstep
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I meant the horn of valor, my bad
ah
In kin do you put the dots on the adds first or du you start with cds and high energy to make best use of the damage buff and put dots after kingsbane mantle expires?
is that good for assa? I
1/2 words correct, good ratio
got a 955 one
Its shit, for everything aside from Kinga
I found myself pooling poping cds after cds the dots on adds and leave when they are almost down more efficient than dotting ramp up ur wasting 3-4 sec on the dmg buff.
Leaving before they are done is annoying as fuck for everyone else
Not like rogues are the slowest to get to the next add anyways
I mean if you start at one at the front and then go to the one in the back its the fastest
I mean at 5% yeah no WL Portal though
cause you just have to shadowstep on kin
I started stepping the void elves ๐
saving cds ๐คข
You can beside ven
The only cd I use is TB, because the others will be on cooldown when adds phase in
CDs on ads and after ads ven on boss with Boots 3 relics
yo, going assa on Kingaroth.
Shoulder brc: do you guys do the normal opener (incl vanish vendetta) and then kingsbane + TB up for first add and vendetta vanish for every add after or vanish vendetta every add.
got 1 mass
also, with Boots bracers does vendetta align if used on CD?
Kings comes up on adds if you pop on pull doesnโt it
nightborn rouge eller bloodelf?
@jovial kite that is 10k additional crit
@marble sonnet so with boots and 3 mass if you vendetta after adds your vendetta is up again for adds>?
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I start with cp on adds env first multi vend tb kB vanish env multi env...
After mantle KB I put up dots
@shrewd night its always up for me when i use it on pull
idk if timers on m are diff
You don't need the Kb up at the start of the add.
Yeah 2 sec delay but you start with the other shit so itโs ready right when you have to use it beside it is not ready when the adds spawn
maybe ur right im pretty dumb tbh
My vendet is 15 sec behind
Vend is not possible on pull
yeah ur right it's 30
Like, sure, you dont NEED KB at the start, but stacking it with vendetta is pretty dope
Just saying
yo @shrewd night go to timelines
first attack on adds is at 39
the graph shows dmg incoming on 30 cause reasons
Isn't the add timer 30 sec after spawn?
Dont ask
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but yeah
This is from the guild that disbanded 
if you look there
the attack is at 39
same for mine
see
I was right
it's around 40
no ๐

noobsters
so whats the conclusion now btw? with shoulders brc hold vendetta and vanish for every add?
Something something heroic tactics on aggramar
Vanish, for adds
Pop vendetta for add, then once inbetween, then for add, once inbetween rince repeat
Shoulder bracer vanish aligns on adds
Bracer boot I get a like 8 vendet per fight
Pull and add and boss and add and boss
Etc
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Meh - i can't parse logs on aggramar because my RL wants me to save all cd's for add phase and double soak every cloak
If you use second vendetta before the intermission you wont have full uptime on it anyway unless you are using boots
and spearing cloak to soak for the freakin range camp is annoying as FUCK
So you have it up before
Save a cd is diff
at what point is it worth dropping 2set/4set for shoulders? full mythic?
atm its a 10k diff between the 2 for me but the energy reduction on garrote is too nice to give up
@lofty river a lot of people still use 2p20 Bracer boot.
yep
its my preffered for sure
yeah i got them
which if you dont already have
Pretty sure jhonwei is At 968ilvl
got the hands too
M?
yeah
I use shoulder hand
Im not mythic but the 2p is worth a lot
heroic shoulders and 950 gloves
i have mythic legs at 945 with a socket but it still sims higher to use the gloves/shoulders
sim lower then just 4p for me
Like a 40+ ilvl swing
If they are like 1% apart. Peak timing is more important than dps
i just love the envenom spams at 4p with garrote
i have been outdpsing the other rogue who is 15ilvl above me at some points
Imo. Where the vanish fits in the fight
If anything 2p4p is more forgiving since you can get that quick and easy CP, or do garrote on more targets ๐คท
heh
actually
950 gloves 930 shoulders arent even an upgrade
over my current set up
cheers for the advice guys, i'll stick to 2p/4p for now until the sim difference makes me switch lol
Donโt you sim it with subt
Human to void elf is like 7k increase
@lone junco whatcha mean? what crit % am I at with 2p4p?
Hey man, belf to nightborne is 1k increase
No your main build.
What you should really use that boost on is a hm tauren monk to trigger all the panda bois.
Yeah. The prob is there.
Yeah I'd need more crit to drop shoulders
You can't be bracer boot at low crit.
too many pieces remnant of my sub days
Not saying you'll see better numbers in the end.
It's just so much nicer to play fat crit imo.
yeah high crit does feel better
In at like 60% mut
43-45 base crit wth fang. Estimate.
I might have 1bb. Not sure
Guild started mythic this week... finally โฟ
Not me. Still scrub land.
HC?
We do have 8 months tho. ๐
Ya
33% crit with fang up
215% mastery tho
I'm still not taking a loss to play exang. It's been my top dps for a while.
sure hit me up
Yeah 215 is a lot
What are ur sims?
Fat opener prob.
any of new races has better results with rogues?
me? I sim 220 or somethign
nightborne sims highest than belf so I guess the power rankings for the good faction might change
what's the idea amount of master assassin traits for poison build?
7
that lines up vendetta with every other kingsbane?
Im only nine mounts away from 300, lawd halp me
Get a life
Get 9 mounts then
Alliance can use hordes one too
Boosted garrosh for a year solid, gold wasnt a problem ๐คท
kill urself
I have a spectral
I am tired of it
the horde mount is fucking
POGGERS
im already dead inside
I think the only mount I can get for semi-free is the green corehound
meanwhile
So technically I only need 6 more
With 11k autists at my disposal, Id have that amount of mounts too
not salty btw ๐ข
Google it u fuck
Did you check the pins, tom ๐ ?
omegalul
can you not
lmao
fucking sick right
Stale memes are like.. What, top2000 memes
logs only give 100% for eonar on weighted damage i think
boss dmg
but also gives 0 all star
^
I stand afk at the spawn tbh
kill the add
etc
actually im colorblind so i almost never pick the correct crystal on mythic
I'm 926 ilvl do you think i can do the mage tower, no BiS leggo
IF THIS GETS 30,000 LIKES, I WILL BE GIVING AWAY FREE MERCH TO LUCKY FANS, AND A FEW FACETIME CALLS, SO PLEASE SHARE ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS MUSIC VIDE...
if u dont listen to this song
whilst playing rogue
what r u even doing
talent? you sure?
its lit haHAA
I normally edit the kill videos
I told my gm I'd only edit it if that could be the song
WAKE UP PAGE
Guess which killvid is missing then
a verse is literally "buy her merch right now"
she's so wise
LOGANG4LYFE
dude...
she's makin' vids everyday she's so cool
you just trynna hate
that's a scandal
haHAA
why is it that only 2 master assassin traits give no dps gain over 1?
@daring agate i suggest to use the search function, but..from #tc-updates
thanks
guys..guys..i'm so lit right now
@shrewd night
its not even hers lol
I'm picking you up, lets go insert today's sponsor here
xDDDdd
cringe memes are the best way of memeing
totally lit fam
A few more mounts and I'll have 70
Dog bat is neat tho
@daring agate it's a vanish vendetta alignment issue for shoulders.
anyone know a rogue streamer that streams high mythic plus?!
Void elf vs human?
for me velf was a 8k increase, might be more or less for you ๐คท
between human and velf that is
Goy my shoulders leggo today, thought it was an improvement in dps. It's not ;_;
5% damage every ~60 seconds
Damn
Could make for some good logs lol
its like 1% boost overall
I think I've heard 12 sec now that u say it
Not sure
Only race in the entire game with caring about now tho is zandalari
is there someone who can do a quick overview where i make hard mistakes that i have better logs ? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mfdqAbNBTLaVgw1p#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=14&translate=true
Hopefully they release exp fast so I can play a good looking race as horde
You can play npcborn tho
Preternatural Calm: Your spell casts are not delayed by taking damage. Like seriously?
no its a joke by blizz
Considering that horde has orc troll racial, belf and orc
Its fair for velf to be like that
anyone here with brain?^^ how much mastery is too much? btw how much crit is optimal actually i have 19022 mastery and 5270 crit maybe ench and sock as crit ? whats the cap
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blood elf its a serious imbalance in the game atm, even in mythic raiding, for example portal keeper...
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Poison build the more mastery the better
Donโt know about bleed build
@dark sundial
Crit mastery imo.
ya but crit is now pos 1 over mastery whats the cap before sim 1000^^
Iirc
opening up with 'anyone here with a brain' is like shooting yourself in the foot for actual helpful replies
Is 4T21 useless on AOE if I've got non-set pieces with better item level ?
With a. Brain. Not me. Clearly -20iq
quality reply = gfys
dont waste his time without a brain wtf
Noobe just changed his mind in regards to shower
to be fair
maybe english is not his first language
so we should stop being mean
still the meaning will be the same in all languages
this is not ambiguous
hah
this is general chat

Alright guys that's enough. Time to right click your poison buffs
Y'all be nice 
this former blues invasion in the channel is lowering the quality of the memes, if that's even possible, can we buff sub a bit and get rid of the fotm rerollers ?
Nah we just need to convert them appropriately
I used to be a blue too, until I saw the one true way to greatness 
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New challenge: everyone go outlaw and parse orange
Outlaw too stressful
i tried, but then found out i did a bag purge in which i sold all my haste gear
I thought Outlaw was soooo easy, right? ๐ kappa
poison bomb proc /s weakaura, anyone? Im too dumb to find it in weakauras
hi guys
I'm currently switching on my rogue for mythic raid / MM+ and I think I'll play assassination, wich relic traits should I aim for?
check relic sims on herodamage
how many FoK? 0 or a mix dual target / mono
most people dont take fok relics even for the aoe because relic destroying and inability to consistently get the better traits
I did but it's only mono / dual so I need to do some mix of that ๐
3x ma 3x malch
Probably still wanna play sub for M+ if thatโs an option. Assass can do fine but sub is more consistent and reliable, generally
i have 7 fok
yeah poison bomb procs... T_T
tracking something that doesnt exist 
praying RNGesus
PB is so hilariously strong, one of the strongest rng class procs methinks
atm I don't got decent relics for MM+ as sub anyway so I won't switch right now :<
i mean, if you have ANY relics for sub it should pull ahead in m+. Assa is obviously doing fine also and outsustains both other specs on really long pulls. Sub tho has the crazy burst AoE, best priority target damage in the game (?) . And seeing that in low and high m+ as well you always pull big, sub outperforms IMO
good relics (3xgutripper and the mastery+avoidance trait) obviously help tho
but if your gear in general is similar to assa, i'd say try going for sub in a few dungeons
With boots and shoulders is it acceptable to go with 1 MA and 2 Alchemist ?
yes, thats great @solar inlet its either 1 MAss or 3 MAss, 2 MAss doesnt give any value over 1 MAss
https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zfdj1DZrMLJk2hG3#fight=41&type=damage-done&source=44 how come his deadly poison ticts so many times ? like i see logs with some rogues tinking it over 400times and other around 250 on the same boss
and Malch is great as well
Thank you @strange python !! I currently run 3 MA with shoulders/wrists and boots/wrists and they are low iLVL. I have high iLVL Malch stashed
I want to make the switch to 1Mass and 2 Malch
So, what do you do? Dont insert the second MAs relic until you get a third one?
I mean I got like 930 ilvl relics on sub but 960 ilvl relics in assa and I don't talk about my stats balance ( and no decent T20 ) I've seen they use 2p 2p
Iโm waiting to get a 2nd Malch
yes @strange python . Tho i would sim it first to be sure. Also obviously depends on what other traits your relics have and their ilvl
thanks for the info
I have bad luck with drops... so I am just sticking with 3MAss
Like, if your 2nd Mass relicc has Malch and the mastery trait as well, it will still be worth a lot because the other 2 are nice
My weapon is 986 now but I'm so unlucky with the gushing wounds trait
Give it to me
BB is pretty high value ttho
Our memes are leaking
Pls plug the hole
Also donโt panic too much about relic/weapon ilvl. Even with lower ilvl relics, sub probably outperforms assass in m+ unless itโs really high keys/sustain AoE affixes @tepid ridge
I private log because Im shit, and I dont want bullies to bully me
Also, Im top3
so suck it
I'm happy with orange logs
allright I'll give it a try this week then ๐ I'm doing like +18 keys not much higher
You got shoulders and cape legendaries? Use those with 2+2 for sub. Otherwise 4p for assa ๐ and yeah just give both a try, I play both I enjoy both, just suits different circumstances
Seeping scourgewing is pretty bad for assassin right? ๐
ye
Itโs not the best, but sim it ofc, depends on ilvl and other choices
But pantheon and felhounds trinkets a solid start. High level EoC if you got it
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
although only been hoarding for assa recently
Oh man reflective shell on an otherwise perfect relic
rip
thathurts
ye, same unluck with sub weapon. for that one i've been getting a shit ton more relics tho
only for outlaw i have 3 100% perfect relics and barely play the spec ):
rip :x
it's really RNG to get perfect relics here ๐ฆ
much easier to get average but so hard to get good ones
tfw there's a dps help thread on reddit and people are saying envenom buff is "borderline irrelevant" and sot management is really important
hehe, thats my question, i am very confused
oh hey. I'm Solovrinne.
meh
let reddit have reddit advice
sot is only relevant during kb
otherwise play like you wish while trying to maximise envenom uptime
There's not much to be done for it.
A ton of misinformation is spread there. When you suggest coming to Discord for more accurate info, they just slam discord.
self entitlement and ignorance is a hell of a combo
yeh, advice there is pretty hit or miss in general there, had a discussion with someone who was consistently parsing at 10 about sub, never again

