#assassination

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onyx veldt
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(joking)

cunning needle
worn geyser
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p4 DNs hit crazy

balmy condor
worn geyser
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it honestly is to fight the boredom boss for 6 minutes of the fight but this hero talent i feel mega energy starved

balmy condor
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Darkest night is a bit less energy than the energy from flips yeh

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The main thing that makes it feel slow is needing to mut to 7 honestly

worn geyser
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i think also i get less implacables cause if i hit a DN with 80 implacable its like 1/5 of my next set gone

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kinda cringe

thorn thorn
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Why is it looking the wrong way

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I dont like this

balmy condor
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But I believe you

trim cairn
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I mean in straight up aoe even DS SD right now is on par with the regular build no?

cunning needle
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you can make them look at each other

thorn thorn
cunning needle
thorn thorn
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When I think of :frag: I dont think of reverse garf

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I think of like a montage clip

cunning needle
thorn thorn
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dap me up

trim cairn
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I play SD bro I was never okay to begin with

weary crypt
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are people running ds now in M+? I've checked the pin and was unsure what the trend is

balmy condor
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Not really

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Some people tried it, was okay

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Wasn’t like anything crazy

storm forum
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i just played DS in a 17 pit, it was pretty good

balmy condor
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More testing needed probably

storm forum
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absolutely destroy the prio boys in there

balmy condor
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But like one person who tried it ran a 21 with a Ret and instantly went “okay not with ret in group” and then swapped back

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So

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Take that however you want

storm forum
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our ST is actually so fucking ass if we dont pull mobs onto boss though so

trim cairn
storm forum
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alright, I just would never play SD in a key above a 14 nor DS in a key below a 17, so I just don't think DS with SD is a good pair

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but whatever works for you

keen spruce
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anyone got that "kick this boomkin down the stairs" gif on hand?

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i forgot to save it

keen spruce
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goood enough for my purposes ty

honest ether
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for anyone doing assa on lura did your dmg just kinda blow in p1?

fallow canopy
fallow canopy
honest ether
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most of them seem to be doing more dmg to just lura than I am as well

thorn thorn
haughty flicker
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imagine living near a ret player

fallow canopy
thorn thorn
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And more numerous than they should be

balmy condor
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Ret players are like ants

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If you see one, there’s a hell of a lot more

cunning needle
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here's a slightly targetted boomkin one (not in gif)

haughty flicker
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"slightly targeted"

cunning needle
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dw whispyr would approve of this one

coral ibex
worn geyser
thorn thorn
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Source: me, i have ants

fallow canopy
obsidian kettle
balmy condor
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Only clean

obsidian kettle
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sorry

balmy condor
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I’m a degenerate not unhygienic

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It’s okay pooks

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I’ll wash em

obsidian kettle
keen spruce
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ty

cunning needle
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no wukkas

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here's the clean one

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here's one for rdruid

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if you need it

storm forum
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alright this fan in ST stuff isn't as terrible as I thought it would be

worn geyser
balmy condor
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Would’ve died with the extra fatebound damage

spice spire
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Tell that fraud

worn geyser
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lowkey i was cranking

fallow canopy
fallow canopy
worn geyser
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nevermind after some log review i was NOT cranking compared to r1 sin, FB back saturday gg

balmy condor
grave nova
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Im consistently getting garrote and rupture to have wildly different timings. I think its cause i chain the previous packs bleeds into the new with garrote or something but idk

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It not an issue in the beginning of a pack but later on in combat it does. What am i doing wrong?

balmy condor
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Nothing

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Rupture is 32ish seconds, garrote is 24ish

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They’re gonna desync

balmy condor
solar wyvern
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Nah that fight was so good man

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And it looked cool af

grave nova
balmy condor
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If you refresh one you would start to CT to spread it

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and then CT again to spread the second

grave nova
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That feels so wrong

solar wyvern
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Whispyr how do we make forced induction good agaib

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I miss it

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Need a kitchenb fire

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The holy grail

fallow canopy
balmy condor
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Lethality and vigor way too good

storm forum
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alright i tried a DS with SD key and it fucking sucked, but not as much as I thought it would. I would like to try another one without blindside

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yeah thats a reasonable react

safe barn
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whats the build for pallies?;

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oh, we have one specific

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nice

balmy condor
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It’s just the m+ build

golden loom
worn geyser
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imagine the 3 mil SD pop

balmy condor
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Bad news gang 3% is 30 mil

golden loom
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Hmm if you save pot for it maybe

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Recklessness pot for mastery

fresh monolith
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Is there a cap for haste?

balmy condor
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no

cunning needle
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🧢

safe barn
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what makes fok worth it on 2 targets?

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is there some proc im missing

balmy condor
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seal fate

hazy glen
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yo, anyone can tell me the rotation of aoe damage? im looking for some rogues to just spaming crimson when already the dots are spreaded instead of fan of knives and i dont know why, or is the right way to do aoe damage??

balmy condor
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on insanely large aoe where energy is not an issue, like first pull algethar, it can be slightly better

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but in those pulls it's also basically impossible to bleed everything with Ct in the first place

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so in general you would want to swap to fok once bleeds are spread

hazy glen
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aah great, i thought why so much crimsom tempest, such a waste of energy but i get it, switching when all is spreaded when possible. Tysm

safe rover
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
final star
golden loom
strange onyx
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Get 15k guild repair each day 💸

sharp viper
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that step forward, beautiful

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more like Midnight Fails kekman

strange onyx
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Was just trying for the lil squeeze

alpine elm
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What u guys rocking in M+ on your wep enchants? I see ppl doing double haste, double crit, double MS (is this a kinda do whatever feels right?)

balmy condor
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!update

prisma monolithBOT
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Updated.

balmy condor
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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okay

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pfew

final star
onyx veldt
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im rerolling to aug.

strange onyx
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Why

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Aug is so useless in pugs

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No point in buffing dogs

sharp viper
sharp viper
golden loom
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aesthetic as hell 💯

sharp viper
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those combo points dont look default UI

worn geyser
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nameplate not default either #fraudwatch

sharp viper
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buff tracking isn't default either

worn geyser
strange onyx
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It is when he does shadow damage it shows like that

golden loom
strange onyx
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It because of the NXP ring set. It does 9222 dmg

golden loom
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The combo points and energy arent tho I guess..

golden loom
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But its just sensei garf pretty much default...

vestal spindle
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Wheres whispyr

candid solstice
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did that change to Deathstalker did anything to Sin? Are we going to play it in any other scenario than Delves?

balmy condor
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leaning not really

strange onyx
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I did it in a 19 felt super duper

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Lichkiller Skoopi

honest comet
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What do i do now?
The only two upgrades i could get are mythic gaze or more realisticly mythic solarflare.

Is the play just to make another rogue? 🙂

balmy condor
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mythic solarflare sucks real bad compared to gaze

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go get a gaze

honest comet
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I have no luck so far

iron thorn
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heroic gaze @ 285 is probably better than a 298 solar flare

honest comet
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lost all hc gaze rolls since week 2 i think 🙂

iron thorn
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dungeon weekly this week

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maybe youre lucky

balmy condor
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well you can just reroll myth gaze until you get it

honest comet
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havent done myth yet 🙁

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pug life

balmy condor
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mythic chim is easily pugged

iron thorn
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idk i just joined 3 groups

honest comet
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not without CE this late 🙂 Ive got decent parses for HC but people are crazy

iron thorn
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and all 3 failed because smallies died too fast downstairs

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and didnt get focused upstairs

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lol

honest comet
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ima give it a go this qweek

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week*

iron thorn
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like yeah i can kite for a bit

balmy condor
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half my guild pugs chim every week on like 280 alts

iron thorn
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but not eternally

balmy condor
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it's not that bad

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might get some poop groups

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but it's totally doable

iron thorn
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for sure

balmy condor
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chim these days is just a fucking joke because we gear-crept it to shit

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from our first kill on chim to our kill now, we went from 6:30 to nearly 4:30

little tulip
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yeah skipped third intermission on dragons this week no prablem

balmy condor
iron thorn
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theres a 2:21 kill

balmy condor
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it's actually silly

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vorasius for us went from 6:15 to under 4 min

golden loom
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Dw it will slow down with 12.0.7 upgrades!

balmy condor
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our first averzian kill was nearly 7 min

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now it's almost 3:30

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we cut our averzian time

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literally in half

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in a single patch

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literal joke of a game dude

honest comet
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I don't think the pugging part is the problem it's getting the invite

worn geyser
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dont worry we are getting even stronger next patch

balmy condor
golden loom
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When will the first mythic beloren 1 phase happen

strange onyx
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When I get out L’ura jail

honest comet
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I'm just gonna keep at it. Eventually I'll get an invite.

97 parse on HC and 290 avg. Maybe it'll be enough 😅

strange onyx
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You eu?

honest comet
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Yep

strange onyx
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I can invite you sometime I do

honest comet
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Cool, I'd love to

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I should really do voidspire on HC just to see it 😅

I've only set foot up to boss 3 so far

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That I don't have any issues finding groups for. Ilvl carries hard 😅

balmy condor
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what am I supposed to do with this information

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bro just shows up out of nowhere, posts an entirely out of context youtube short with no rogue

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what is happening

vestal spindle
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Whispyr chill

drifting cloud
balmy condor
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I am chill?

celest ruin
vestal spindle
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No i dont think so

balmy condor
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I am just confused about the situation we find ourselves in

runic hinge
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That’s me with life

worn geyser
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I have found the forbidden tech for the lura DS parse, how do i convince my raid to let me die in p3 right before we lust so that I can get lust in p4

balmy condor
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brother what are you smoking right now

little tulip
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they're trying to call fistspyr again

vestal spindle
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i think hes normal

balmy condor
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could be

vestal spindle
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Whispyr your playing eu or Na

balmy condor
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NA

worn geyser
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i mean surely at some point some of the logs start lusting p4, in p3 we are phasing at like 7:40

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maybe not my guild tho we need all the help we can get

balmy condor
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lust on assa is really not all that special

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I wouldn't worry about it

spice surge
worn geyser
strange onyx
spice surge
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If your lowest stats are all exactly equal, all of them get increased. So for example if you had all 4 stats equal you would get +76 in all stats instead of just one

worn geyser
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i dont even know how i could even begin to start to compile a gear set that can do that

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that is cursed

golden loom
spice surge
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Its random between the highest stats

worn geyser
strange onyx
spice surge
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But again, its so fucking cursed to have exactly the same amount of stats

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Thats its not feasible at all

lyric grail
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Equal would almost not be possible mostly - u still have different number values for stats
% is not the value to Check u need to Check the number value

strange onyx
worn geyser
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is there actually even a way to do that, like is it possible to sim through all the gear sets / variations of food/flasks and find one that works, and are there any classes whose buffs give like flat stats or w/e to throw it off

worn geyser
spice surge
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Told you it was cursed garf_sit

strange onyx
golden loom
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Haste mastery crit at the exact same and then you forgot vers existed..

buoyant herald
worn geyser
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its tiring

golden loom
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Ban breaks

strange onyx
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Giving me PTSD from Star Augur wipes. Like I am just chilling in the well, then somewhere in the world something touches a crystal and we all died to something I couldn’t see

golden loom
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Guilds need to start copying China

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Pulltimer goes out before you even wipe

worn geyser
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bro my guild is trying to compete with their wipe counts

worn geyser
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oh my cheat death proc'd i guess were wiping

worn geyser
strange onyx
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My favorite is glaive through boss at the same time as memory puzzle beam and they are pixel stacked

spice surge
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Why would you run the hunt

golden loom
spice surge
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if you spent all this time optimizing for another embellishment

golden loom
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Run stat enchants also to fuck it up garf

worn geyser
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ok that is fair I perhaps did not use my critical thinking skills on that question

golden loom
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Thats a given

worn geyser
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hey im swapping back, u never took a little detour for fun

tawny geyser
worn geyser
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it was pretty not good

golden loom
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I did swap to sub between pulls yesterday 3 times

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Never pulled it as sub tho

worn geyser
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i did a night as sub without guidon then said never again

golden loom
strange onyx
# spice surge Brother

Eleem I perfectly balanced all my stats, but when I crit flask it goes way higher than all the other stats. How I fix?

golden loom
strange onyx
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And praying for big execute in p3

noble nova
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quick Q, Deathstalker still bad M+ after buffs?

spice surge
strange onyx
vestal spindle
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Tja

light quarry
honest comet
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Also means hello in Swedish 😅

strange onyx
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I would more use it as a «depends, not sure etc»

honest comet
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And given pronociation can mean the above

vestal spindle
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lmao

real pike
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?*

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Thought it was way behind in raid

balmy condor
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it is

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lucky is out of his mind

light quarry
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brother read the context 😭

balmy condor
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yeh legit

light quarry
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he even replied to make it easier to see

strange onyx
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Got the thinkers of all time in here

spice surge
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People have free will, they are allowed to play the worse specs if they want

light quarry
strange onyx
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Play garroteless DS on L’ura

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That way you only play L’ura for one night

light quarry
strange onyx
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As you are sure to 🐝 benched

light quarry
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rogue buff is very much needed and we cannot be benched

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i even rerolled from devourer for it thats how good it is

strange onyx
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If you Benched at this point your attitude needs a rework as it is deffo a bad vibe angle

worn geyser
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i have the benefit of not dying to the glaive boss also, but do not recommend ds is mega cringe and not good on lura

light quarry
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but, hear me out, DS technically is op because u can cloak the glaives and not get oneshot (surely) ???

strange onyx
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L’ura is bugged and u can move mark to the friendly crystal and not get it back

worn geyser
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i dont know i just move out of the way of the slow moving tumbleweed

light quarry
worn geyser
light quarry
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full leech gear, new crimson vial, DS for ultimate healing parse padding??? HOLY

worn geyser
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rogue tank spec was hidden in DS the entire time, infinite sustain

light quarry
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i think we are onto something

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maybe sudden demise for a easy free 100 parse aswell on the dmg side

night delta
marsh fjord
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You guys need to touch some grass

light quarry
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i basically will with the ammount of HEALING i will be doing with my new tech

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all i see is green and it aint money

celest ruin
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our last reclear and I didn't get a good alleria parse Pepe_Sad

light quarry
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!ss

prisma monolithBOT
grave nova
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Nelf racial works like a 2nd vanish?

drifting cloud
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no

grave nova
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Outlaw channel said something like that, figured theyd be wrong

analog field
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In m+ on trash sometimes you can get it off

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it is not 100% but if you a bit farther most of the times you get it off

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But we only have imp gar anymore so who cares

grave nova
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Imp garrote is pretty big

light quarry
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but its pretty wonky and i dont think its that simple to do

grave nova
light quarry
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dont think so since u dont loose combat

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havent done it myself because its like, not needed at all for timing a key

royal lantern
analog field
night delta
royal lantern
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you realise if it was some giga strong thing, it would be like, well known

analog field
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Also no you can't do on bossfights

marsh fjord
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i remember whispyr talking about it on stream the other day and he was like saying that its like a 1% talent or something. dont remember exactly anymore

blazing totem
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I wish imp garrote would just go away

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they went after stealth interactions but for some reason left this specific one in

primal oasis
analog field
royal lantern
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you could literally just compare a sim with imp garrote skilled and without it skilled

light quarry
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ok but how much gain is it when u run sudden demise (literally best talent) HOLY

royal lantern
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people just love to act as if imp garrote is this GIGA BIG 30% talent cus they read "does 50% more dmg"

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when like

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thats not how talents work

light quarry
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feelycraft > robot facts

blazing totem
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big yes?

light quarry
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its actually 50% more damage

blazing totem
marsh fjord
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let me ask you a question

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do i look like a person

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who can be arsed enough

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to go and sim it?

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if the person wants to know he can go sim it kekW

analog field
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numbers?

marsh fjord
coral ibex
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you calculating fools

analog field
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don't you want numbers?

coral ibex
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the truth of assa rogue was revealed to me in a dream

light quarry
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ive already ran the numbers and they are looking insanely good for sudden demise stonks

royal lantern
marsh fjord
strange onyx
royal lantern
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that i was just pressing buttons

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and did dmg

marsh fjord
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In your dream how good was imp garrote tho???

analog field
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I have never dreamt of playing well

marsh fjord
royal lantern
marsh fjord
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very therapeutical

analog field
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It's one of these things you cannot even fathom

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So far away

coral ibex
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god has revealed to me that improved garrote is a 50% increase on 25% uptime for an ability that does 10-12% of your damage

coral ibex
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god forgets nothing

light quarry
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clearly did

coral ibex
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crits are a static damage increase on a % of your hits, there's no special interaction with damage amps

frigid wing
runic hinge
coral ibex
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11 deathmarks in 32 minutes

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you should have uhhh 17

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if you cast on cd

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so ur holding an insane amount

night delta
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32 minutes with seemingly not a lot of big gaps in trash sections tells me the pulls were probably quite small ?

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Also the frost mage being 59 on Parse% but 0 on Key% is just hella wierd. Are a majority of frost mages just giga bad ?

snow kindle
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59% for the dungeon

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0% for the key level

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or something along those lines

night delta
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well yeah, but in comparison the demo is 49% - 42%

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the disparity is nowhere near the same

snow kindle
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well the mage did tank damage

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reletive to the run but maybe not to all misara caverns runs

night delta
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ah so lotsa frost mages running low keys with low ilvl I guess ?

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compared to demolocks

trim cairn
snow kindle
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There is 134208 Frost mages that have a parse, but 19127 mages for 12 key.

snow kindle
night delta
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gotta love that there are literally 10x less sin parses than the other two dpses

night delta
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More like 10x less sin rogues running around

trim cairn
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That too xd

night delta
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cuz I usually don't need much time to get into a key

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in the ~12 range

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well

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tbf I have literally almost max ilvl for the season

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so...

night delta
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with so few deaths all that tells me the tank was probably making more small pulls than recommended

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which, given their ilvl, is understandable

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So i understand how it's harder to evaluate where you want to DM in that situation

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but in that case it's okay to just shrug and let DM go on targets that are not the usual big focus guys

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if you'd otherwise sit on it for 1min+

trim cairn
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Well

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I'd also say pressing ur abilities sooner than 30s into the dungeon would also help

frigid wing
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he only pulled the first 4 mobs at first, was waiting for him to gather the first big pull

night delta
trim cairn
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Looking at the replay there isn't really a reason for you not to setup your damage on the adds while he was walking them down

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He coulda pulled faster for sure

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But imo its a good habit to use tricks and set up a little before the pull is fully gathered

frigid wing
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so just drop full combo on the 4 mobs?

trim cairn
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Dont drop your cds

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but bleed them up and setup for your cds when the pull is gathered

frigid wing
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i see

trim cairn
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Anything is better than doing actually nothing for 30s 😛

night delta
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Though do this only if you are assured your tank is actually battling the mobs

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you'd be surprised how many tanks just faceaggro mobs and let that sit for 10+ seconds until they settle

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and then it's just garrote, smack, udead

trim cairn
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..that is what tricks is for

frigid wing
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how do you use tricks, ive never used it

trim cairn
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Just use it when you know it would help the tank

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Should be used before every trash pull usually

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Just a good habit to let you setup for free

night delta
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I am maybe overly cautious because the way tricks work sometimes the timeline of triggers is iffy, making faceaggro still potentially dangerous

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a tank with literally zero aggro can leave mobs to smack you just as you enter combat with them, just before the redirected aggro makes them change to tank

trim cairn
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Never seen that happen but sure anything can happen tbf

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Just don't think tricks will save you from getting oneshot by the boss on pull because you were closer than the tank when the boss activates

night delta
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yeah that too x)

worn geyser
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as a habitual tricks early and start hitting during gather rogue it does happen but i think only truesight mobs that tank social aggros

frigid wing
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ill see if i can get an improved log

worn geyser
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and also if ur slow

trim cairn
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Also don't forget to pandemic your improved garrote

night delta
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yeah, for any pull that is over 16s, that works good

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real good

trim cairn
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Plenty of times here you aren't reapplying garrote before the imp garrote buff fades

night delta
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and usually pulls should last over 16s tbf

trim cairn
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Also

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Use pots, especially with big cds on big pulls

golden loom
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Its 150% of a normal garrote

coral pivot
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For like 30 seconds of a fight

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You always want it if possible, but it isn't make or break important

golden loom
coral pivot
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Only if you can't understand numbers

tight ginkgo
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i mean 30000 and 150 are bigger numbers than the number 30 which you mentioned
QED it is massive

weary stump
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Clearly we should take serrated bone spike over it, oh wait

royal lantern
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300% more dmg

fallow canopy
marsh fjord
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Yeah its looking massive

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Imp garrote is a 50% dps increase talent

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Trust my numbers and my numbers only

fallow canopy
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Thank you

tight ginkgo
fallow canopy
trim cairn
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Ah fuck dont tell me you have to log yourself on chimaerus for accurate numbers

molten flicker
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you dont

spice surge
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If you play sub yes

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As assa no

iron thorn
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yo @balmy condor does the embellishment on dagger scale with the voidcore upgrade?

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iirc people said yes

frosty cedar
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p sure it dont scale

iron thorn
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man i got baited

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not that it changes anything gearing wise

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just actually thought since people said it scaled with ilvl, that it'd also scale with the upgrade

marsh fjord
spice surge
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Secret technique clones aren't properly attributed to you if the person logging is more than 100 yards away or in another "realm"

#

So technically you don't need to log yourself, but you need to be in the same group as the person logging

frosty cedar
#

classic

spice surge
safe barn
#

akaari?

#

its the same bug as the legendary?

#

i need a tip on paladins, how do you guys keep uptime dots in all three? theres always one so far away

plain thistle
#

always far away? tank is doing something wrong then

#

he should move far away for that boss circle and after that stack again, so you just CT to bleed that boss and gg

golden loom
#

You can refresh a bit before pandemic as well

plain thistle
#

yeah, refresh a little early when you know he is going to move

safe barn
plain thistle
#

boss is far away, nothing you can do about it

#

if you refresh rupture early it shouldnt drop, but garrote can drop a little bit

main plover
#

for crown/lura talents etc, why are people taking 2 points fatal concoction over 1 point fatal 1 point poison bomb?

polar canyon
#

Kinda noob question and not directly Sin Rogue related, but why sometimes i cant shadowmeld>invis in the middle of some packs? Am I not fast enough or is it supposed to be like that?

plain thistle
spice surge
#

Surebud Nothing else to it

main plover
light quarry
#

gg guys washed

fallow canopy
#

my goat rodent gas

light quarry
#

this site does NOT like that im saving my kick for important casts

cosmic sundial
light quarry
#

its insanely bait tho lmao

cosmic sundial
#

xD ok i'm gonna check this out ty x)

weary stump
fresh kelp
fallow canopy
#

don't speak to me if you are not a GOD KICK

vestal wren
#

hot tip

#

don't play with a paladin tank if you want to get good kick scores

surreal kiln
#

Amazing, I'm almost exclusively playing with a paladin tank... I'm also kinda garbage, but that's besides the point

vestal wren
#

guess you are not allowed to talk to boli then ^^

fallow canopy
#

about to add "link your carried.io profile" on the group finder 🥀

vestal wren
#

just wait for someone to create a carried.io addon which displays individuals scores in the tooltip

#

(i am joking, if thats not obvious)

proud carbon
#

Hey short question. when i got a enhanced garrote running and have to replace it with the normal unbuffed version. do i let the enhanced drop off to not lose a tick OR can i savety replace it and wont lose the last few enhanced ticks?

proud carbon
#

i let fall it off and replace it as soon as it dropped. kk thanks 🙂

golden loom
#

I just garrote at 1 second

coral ibex
#

the only time you clip it is in extended aoe

#

since you'd also drop it on every other target too

#

which is bad

proud carbon
#

ok thanks for the advice

#

is this in the wowhead guide? didnt saw it

#

this whole clip/no clip question and when

coral ibex
#

im sure wowhead says not to clip improved garrote

#

which is generally the correct advice

royal lantern
#

listening to a maplestory player

#

smh

deep latch
#

is zero cooking double arcano atm?

last oasis
#

I feel like I'm not understanding the value of ranked 4 apex talent. It just does a tiny bit of damage and one combo point, is that really worth a point, over, say Avulsion? Rupture seems to do about 12~14% in keys, a flat 20% increase to that seems to be more than the maybe 1.5% damage the implacable strikes do

upper burrow
#

Hello, kinda lost with the changes at the moment, what is strongest rn fatebound or deathstalker?

fresh kelp
royal lantern
#

and it actually does some decent dmg

last oasis
#

using this log as an example, I still don't see how that dmg is considered meaningful

#

like, decent dmg being .92% + .5% seems still < 20% of 14.73%, or am I just missing something entirely

royal lantern
#

i mean, thats also dmg going into spatter and building cp

fallow canopy
#

also ramps kb faster

#

due to the hits

royal lantern
#
  • kb ramps faster
coral ibex
#

uh isn’t rank 4 for the apex the regen after stacks expire

royal lantern
#

no

fallow canopy
#

its the kb lashes

coral ibex
#

that’s not the point below kb?

#

damn wtf

fallow canopy
#

that's the haste thing

#

after kb

coral ibex
#

oh the regen is baked into the first point i see

#

i can’t say i’ve read the tree recently so

runic hinge
#

avulsion is behind

#

probably from the kb ramp

fallow canopy
#

since the hits apply poison

#

yea

#

the ramp is faster

runic hinge
#

oops that was dslice

hushed dirge
#

Trying to decide on which piece to target this week.

#

Do I go for the neck/ring on pit, the pants on spire, or the back from MT?

#

This is so I am geared for vanguard.

runic hinge
#

Id just send all my rolls in pit

#

cloak and legs in there too

hushed dirge
#

I crafted a crit haste neck for the mean time.

runic hinge
#

wow its even worse in ST

hushed dirge
sonic zinc
#

does ds mark transfer button have a cd

runic hinge
#

25 seconds i think

main bobcat
#

@static glacier shut up bro

#

No cat content for 12 hours

#

😡

radiant otter
latent kernel
#

just noticed that fan of knives makes your character sheathe their weapons, and then when you envenom you pull them back out, so really it must be exhausting

deep latch
#

Need to animation cancel to get more dps

#

min max

runic hinge
radiant otter
#

you can back sheathe transmog now for higher dps

latent kernel
#

incorrect

#

highest dps is actually transmogging to fist weapons

#

so you never actually have to put your weapons down

thorn thorn
#

Just tmog the brass knuckles so it looks like you are bleeding things with your fist

latent kernel
#

which also if you havent tried it yet, transmogging to fist weapons on assassination is hilarious

#

it looks like youre boxing your target on your melees

#

which is just ridiculous

rancid anvil
#

I go worgen with claw looking fist weapons for tmog so it looks like I am slashing with claws for the bleeds.

royal lantern
#

one day

#

they let worgen go without any weapons

#

one day

royal lantern
long oak
#

Hi, I have a question. Does anyone know why some people use the wound poison on the first pulls in Maisara?

marsh fjord
#

Thats the only use for it. but its a DPS loss if they do.

#

I cant remember something getting healed in the first pull of maisara tho

royal lantern
#

outlaw/sub can take wound poison with no drawback

#

for assa it REALLY sucks, but can be worth it for that pull if the other 2 dps do enough dmg

marsh fjord
#

What adds have healing?

royal lantern
#

the berserkers and spear throwers

marsh fjord
#

oh didnt even knew that

long oak
#

I had that little doubt because I've seen that some people use it.

iron thorn
royal lantern
#

they heal 3% max hp every 5 sec or smth like that

royal lantern
#

improved wound poison should add the heal reduction effect to deadly poison, change my mind

marsh fjord
#

was grief

#

but it speed it up for sure

rancid anvil
fair reef
#

Hey guys switching from sub to assass, I've been watching vids but dont understand how you keep garrote up , am I dumb or can you cast it out of stealth? All these guides say to maintain it but I dont get how if I dont have vanish up

royal lantern
#

yes you can use garrote outside of stealth

#

garrote as a stealth only ability was a thing like.......15years ago? idk dracthyr_kek

fair reef
#

I also came back to wow after 12 years so im new again

fair reef
#

Didn't even realize you get more than 2 poisons now too

royal lantern
#

cus like, assa is the poison/bleed spec and stuff

#

so it kinda makes sense

fair reef
#

Game is just so diff , like wtf is outlaw , its combat

royal lantern
#

its combat with a couple more abilitys

#

instead of just "keep snd up and spamm evisc"

fair reef
#

Yeah like snd just happens now

jovial cradle
#

Its a slots machine spec that has high apm reqs, old combat was so snoozefest

fair reef
#

I was assasss back in the day and switched because it was the new hotness but now it seems I can go back and not be bottom of dmg charts anymore

light quarry
#

@solar wyvern in ur seat did u swap on last boss to ST DS or fate?

royal lantern
#

if anything, they tried to make manual SnD a thing again

#

just to realise after years of people yelling at them

#

that manual SnD casting fucking sucks

fair reef
#

Yeah but manual SnD is part of it

solar wyvern
#

was experimenting

light quarry
#

shit owns

#

sp, arms, assa

#

meta comp

haughty flicker
dreamy dust
#

!poison

prisma monolithBOT
#

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

  • Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
    Non-Lethals:
  • Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

dreamy dust
#

There we go

strange onyx
marsh fjord
thorn thorn
humble verge
#

i got a huge ass gyrados in my hotel room

royal lantern
light quarry
strange onyx
slow orbit
#

does anyone have macro for kick? so i can copy paste

keen spruce
#

/cast kick

fallow canopy
real pike
#

And you didn't spam, nowhere near enough energy for that

#

Calculated pooling yessir

sharp viper
#

weren't a lot of old mobs immune to bleeding? like elementals and mechanicals

fallow canopy
#

iirc when soleah gambit came out originally the murloc totems were immune to bleed

analog field
#

Ok grandpa, time to go to sleep

fallow canopy
untold flume
wraith tide
#

At what point shoulld I swap to deathstalker if any?

spice surge
#

If you want to, theres no particular reason to

#

as per the pins

coral ibex
#

if you feel like you want to do less overall but more prio damage in m+

#

otherwise no reason to

trim cairn
humble verge
trim cairn
#

And don't listen to the nonsense about lower aoe, feels > sims

humble verge
#

time for 3,5h of sleep

#

i love waking up at 4am for breakfest

trim cairn
#

Deathstalker and SD

untold flume
#

Should? Is subjective. There are fights like Chimny, and Vealgot and Ezzra that are funnel fights where you have clear priority targets and sporadic adds that you can aoe for combo points and funnel envenoms on to target. But the math shows only marginal gains if any.

latent kernel
#

On this same topic, there’s no worse feeling than leveling a priest in classic and having to kill elementals that are the same type as your wand

thorn thorn
#

There is no worse feeling than being a priest in maisara caverns and your only cc button being useless for 2/3rds of the dungeon

thorn thorn
#

Im trying to have fun thanks

humble verge
fallow canopy
thorn thorn
humble verge
#

yall think ill be able to sleep and wake up in 3h

#

i shouldve gone to sleep 3 hours ago dead

storm forum
#

We don't have any cloak CDR talents right?

#

And sub or OL don't either right?

balmy condor
#

we do not

#

correct

storm forum
#

Ty

sage ore
#

is it ok if I`m using 1st death mark on pull and then holding it for 2 kb uses and then send it with the 3rd one so I can get bonus dmg on execute phase? In m+

glass moon
#

hey guys i am wondering if i can only use [Crippling Poison] on my main hand or is there a way to change it

coral ibex
#

if you dont lose a use of dm yea you can reverse your last kb/dm+kb to get dm in execute

coral ibex
#

you can't apply poisons to a particular weapon slot

#

they're just applied to you

glass moon
#

ok thanks

strong mural
#

anyone having an issue with energy generation on deathstalker? i know i am bad at math but i find it much easier to keep energy up on fatebound

spice surge
#

Well yeah fatebound gives more energy

strong mural
#

maybe im just bad at the tracking of deathstalker's mark but i find myself rushing to put it on and eating past the apex 80% gen

#

constantly

#

i assumed rush on fb and darkest night in deathstalker where comparable

#

energy gain wise?

spice surge
#

The fatebound one gives more on average, but you also get more combo points so you get more finishers off

strong mural
#

i see

#

deal fate i see

#

damn blizz hate deathstalker or something?

storm forum
#

<@&224906552333697025> is this the right ping for this?

haughty flicker
#

unlucky

#

another one got got

storm forum
#

o7

#

poor unfortunate soul

haughty flicker
#

if i ever get got and post a mr beast link one day

#

remember me for who i was

#

an idiot

drifting cloud
severe meadow
#

I shit you not, one of my friends on Discord DM'd me with this shit

#

They got him

balmy condor
#

!ban @brisk phoenix spam

balmy condor
midnight mist
drifting cloud
#

they do

amber fossil
#

what 2 poisons are we using for M Vael/Ezz?

drifting cloud
#

its mostly people already on the discord that get phished

midnight mist
#

what

#

i have never seen it

#

is it hidden

balmy condor
#

ofc

midnight mist
#

in other discords its a normal channel tho

#

like when a guy like thast gets hacked they just auto send in every channel no

#

idk

#

i didnt know we had one

haughty flicker
#

sometimes when discord is lagging i see them before it sorts out

knotty vapor
#

do ya'll think 298 guidon would beat 285 box on vanguard?

#

I'd imagine not

balmy condor
#

no

#

I don't think a 298 guidon beats like a champ track box

knotty vapor
#

sheeit

#

was hoping for a "yeah just use guidon" so I didn't have to touch this fuckass trinket

night delta
#

Just half a season left

#

Then we can say bye bye box

#

(someone insert the image of tossing puzzlebox away I don't have it)

clear knoll
#

no more box in season 2?

night delta
#

It comes from a returning dungeon so yeah

#

No more Algethar in 12.1

night delta
#

We gonna have to fish for a different on-use mastery trinket

#

Ideally one that lasts 14s and ramps up over its duration

buoyant herald
#

new bug discovered

#

used a reroll in PoS for the dagger

#

only item left on loot table for me

#

whoopsie, im in outlaw loot spec

#

the roll just keeps spinning

#

and spinning

#

i hearth

#

still spinning

#

i reload

#

spinning stopped. 1 voidcore gone

#

no loot

#

neato

haughty flicker
buoyant herald
#

have to wait until next week to finish gearing i guess 🥲

haughty flicker
#

have you tried asking their robot for help

buoyant herald
#

lol

haughty flicker
buoyant herald
#

i mean yes but

#

im not expecting a response let alone a resolution

haughty flicker
#

yeah

buoyant herald
#

they almost never restore anything loot related outside of auto loot restore system

#

was a slog of a key too, 285 aff lock doing 60k overall

#

27k on garfrost without dying, actually impressive

solar wyvern
#

Thank god

#

Daggers arent going to cost an arm and leg pog

latent kernel
#

mythic alleria down with a 93 parse

haughty flicker
coral ibex
#

bro wtf they're nerfing my indestructible main hand

#

unbelievable

#

i #grinded for this

storm forum
#

yippee alleria dead

#

cause no one DC'd

haughty flicker
balmy condor
haughty flicker
#

thats two kills tonight

#

gamers

storm forum
#

dont look at my parse

#

i got too many mechanics

#

and played the last phase like shit

wraith tide
#

is there a way to track how many mobs have my dots on them vs how many are in combat?

balmy condor
#

no

storm forum
#

should we abbreviate our opener on birb?

balmy condor
#

no

lethal arrow
#

p1 wipe factory here i come

storm forum
#

ty

golden loom
coral ibex
#

how did you get this picture of me

marble wadi
#

i hate homework keys

#

every key that i timed WAS MY WORST PERFROMING TRY

#

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

humble verge
golden loom
#

!ui

prisma monolithBOT
runic hinge
balmy condor
#

More fun for a week and then more pain

main bobcat
#

You're done buddy

lethal arrow
storm fossil
#

Hey guys! Super new to rouge ut been playing the game for forever. Do i ever fan of knives in aoe or is it crimson forever?

main bobcat
#

Crimson untl all mobs have bleeds then you fan to build

storm fossil
#

ty! THats what i thought but i was watching pikaboo press it like a madman haha

balmy condor
novel dock
#

whats the best way to track kingsbane stack?

golden loom
balmy condor
#

I’m sure the CDM could but yeah idk why you would

novel dock
#

feels good when its full stack 🙂

#

i used to know when its was 50stack before :p

balmy condor
#

yeah but you can't control the stacks

sick umbra
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
royal hazel
#

stats!

#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

still nymph
#

Do we refresh Rupture during the egg phase of beloren or just continue to blast with envenoms and refresh once it's a birb again? So far I tried to apply a 7 CP rupture at the start which leads to ~8s lost, which if I am treating it like the enemy "dies" in those 8s then I should not reapply, correct? I should clarify for maximizing dmg on the egg as we lack quite a bit.

sick umbra
#

who can point me in a right direction for mythic plus rotation

still nymph
#

!guide

prisma monolithBOT
still nymph
#

But didnt you state at some point that rupture isnt worth it if the target dies within 15s? I know its probably not much but I think we will need the damage for our first kill. Im currently top dmg behind our only shaman on the egg and we have quite a few people that seem to attack with wet noodles :D But if you say so, then I trust

strange onyx
runic hinge
white hound
#

what dungeon to spend my voidcores on after pit?

turbid mulch
strange onyx
main bobcat
#

You can get the same one for free from somewhere iirc

strange onyx
#

Already sent 5 bonus rolls too late to quit now

main bobcat
warm vortex
#

!rik

#

!richard

sharp viper
#

those commands have been dead for a while

marsh fjord
celest ruin
#

wdym? paladins is the best fight ever

strange onyx
#

Paladins is a good fight

light quarry
#

hot take: they have never made a fun council/court boss ever

spice surge
#

The one in vault of incarnate was ok because it was the second boss so nothing did anything

#

It was just a 4 target cleave boss pretty much

light quarry
#

the best part about it was that it was early so u never had to prog it

marsh fjord
#

Because one went away when the other jumped in

#

Shivarra something

light quarry
#

i mean i just really dislike 2-4 boss fights because classes that have bad cleave/bad small aoe get giga punished for no reason

drifting cloud
#

council boss in antorus was ass

marsh fjord
marsh fjord
#

You think

#

I enjoyed it

drifting cloud
#

lock did double dmg of classes so people just brought alts

light quarry
lone ingot
#

!bugs

drifting cloud
#

its the same problem as ever, they just suck so generally just put them early in the raid so they arent pure pain for 1/3 of your raid

latent kernel
#

10-16 key range is a straight dumpster fire right now

light quarry
#

it does not get better in 20s my friend

latent kernel
#

i have more luck timing 18-19s than a 10

#

insanity

light quarry
#

21 seat

latent kernel
#

my 285 tank in a +12 saying he cant live....

balmy condor
#

I mean

#

He probably can’t

#

Truth teller tank

latent kernel
#

i just be leaving atp, not progging a +12, gimme deserter idc its not worth my sanity

light quarry
#

reroll tank and be ur own issue donkwalk

latent kernel
#

see but my bonus rolls

#

the worst is the 198 ilvl fresh 90 alt

#

in your 12

light quarry
#

calm down there buddy

#

alts are lovely

#

(as long as im the alt)

mortal crag
#

To be fair I had a horrendous time tanking a 12 a few nights ago when 3/5 people were just not kicking

coral ibex
#

its a downstream consequence of 10's being so insanely easy that you can rock up with like 240 ilvl if even that

#

so people assume they're basically just new heroics

mortal crag
#

It’s been 99% alright tbh just get once in a while shit

light quarry
#

!ss

prisma monolithBOT
light quarry
nova aspen
#

now thats a loot box character if i ever saw one

main bobcat
#

npx ring set tho HOLY

#

wait no

#

that's only one npx ring

#

FUCK

golden loom
#

But the char has 12 bonus rolls ready to go, it will be capped in no time

main bobcat
#

that's right little critter equip your mastery and spec sub

golden loom
#

Will probably rat my way into 1 key, play outlaw and then log out forever

main bobcat
#

I'm guaranteed a myth dagger from pit on my rogue this week

#

man I need to do a lot of keys this weekend actually been away the whole week

#

warlock rogue and I want to decide between paladin or shaman next

coral ibex
golden loom
#

No enchants no crafts no consumes hits you with "keys?" What do you do?

frosty cedar
#

blow their head shmoove off

deep latch
#

I dislike resil keys

#

Bloats up IO

#

And you get some questionable individuals when you pug

#

Being told I’m trolling cause I’m using evasion during damage instead of cloaking fried my brain