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p4 DNs hit crazy
it honestly is to fight the boredom boss for 6 minutes of the fight but this hero talent i feel mega energy starved
Darkest night is a bit less energy than the energy from flips yeh
The main thing that makes it feel slow is needing to mut to 7 honestly
i think also i get less implacables cause if i hit a DN with 80 implacable its like 1/5 of my next set gone
kinda cringe
Not sure I get that one
But I believe you
I mean in straight up aoe even DS SD right now is on par with the regular build no?
its good
you can make them look at each other
You see



dap me up
are you okay?
I play SD bro I was never okay to begin with
are people running ds now in M+? I've checked the pin and was unsure what the trend is
i just played DS in a 17 pit, it was pretty good
More testing needed probably
absolutely destroy the prio boys in there
But like one person who tried it ran a 21 with a Ret and instantly went “okay not with ret in group” and then swapped back
So
Take that however you want
our ST is actually so fucking ass if we dont pull mobs onto boss though so
I'd say a couple k difference on 5 targets is pretty on par
alright, I just would never play SD in a key above a 14 nor DS in a key below a 17, so I just don't think DS with SD is a good pair
but whatever works for you
anyone got that "kick this boomkin down the stairs" gif on hand?
i forgot to save it

goood enough for my purposes ty
for anyone doing assa on lura did your dmg just kinda blow in p1?
how is it going king
I mean compared to everyone padding on the crystals probably
most of them seem to be doing more dmg to just lura than I am as well
Reminder to throw eggs at your local ret player
imagine living near a ret player
should be like middle of the pack on p1 on boss but idk
Like any sex offender, they are far more numerous than they appear
And more numerous than they should be
do you want this specific one or do you just want druid slander in general
here's a slightly targetted boomkin one (not in gif)
"slightly targeted"
dw whispyr would approve of this one
This statement is true
Source: me, i have ants
@balmy condor https://x.com/mkiwisz/status/2059710135295975491?s=20
sorry
ooh yeah ig it wasn't a gif
ty
alright this fan in ST stuff isn't as terrible as I thought it would be
we are overtiming saturday it seems LOL
Tell that fraud
lowkey i was cranking
trueeeeeeeee
tragic
nevermind after some log review i was NOT cranking compared to r1 sin, FB back saturday gg

Im consistently getting garrote and rupture to have wildly different timings. I think its cause i chain the previous packs bleeds into the new with garrote or something but idk
It not an issue in the beginning of a pack but later on in combat it does. What am i doing wrong?
I miss saladbar...
Good one
And i just press tempest again with the new one or refresh both when the other isnt in pandemic?
If you refresh one you would start to CT to spread it
and then CT again to spread the second
That feels so wrong
Whispyr how do we make forced induction good agaib
I miss it
Need a kitchenb fire
The holy grail
Original saladbar was prob top 2 from manaforge
Not happening as long as vigor is good and we are envenom the spec
Lethality and vigor way too good
alright i tried a DS with SD key and it fucking sucked, but not as much as I thought it would. I would like to try another one without blindside
yeah thats a reasonable react
It was almost in sudden demise range
Honestly true with the damage buff going idk how much 3% hp is tho
imagine the 3 mil SD pop
Bad news gang 3% is 30 mil
Is there a cap for haste?
no
🧢
seal fate
yo, anyone can tell me the rotation of aoe damage? im looking for some rogues to just spaming crimson when already the dots are spreaded instead of fan of knives and i dont know why, or is the right way to do aoe damage??
on insanely large aoe where energy is not an issue, like first pull algethar, it can be slightly better
but in those pulls it's also basically impossible to bleed everything with Ct in the first place
so in general you would want to swap to fok once bleeds are spread
aah great, i thought why so much crimsom tempest, such a waste of energy but i get it, switching when all is spreaded when possible. Tysm
!ui
Resources:
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BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
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Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement
should probably remove bettercdm as a recommendation as development has stopped on it completely @balmy condor
Atleast u saved on repair cost
Get 15k guild repair each day 💸
Was just trying for the lil squeeze
What u guys rocking in M+ on your wep enchants? I see ppl doing double haste, double crit, double MS (is this a kinda do whatever feels right?)
yeh probably ayjie I guess
whatever sims highest
!update
Updated.
!ui
Resources:
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BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
(Jundies Profile)
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Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement
Resources:
ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
AyjieCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended due to poor performance and bad buff filtering)
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Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

they don't know that
ngl ayjie is so much better than bettercdm, that stuff is way too basic
The real goat is default UI and then adding a cute lil bar for pots and trinket 
aesthetic as hell 💯
those combo points dont look default UI
nameplate not default either #fraudwatch
buff tracking isn't default either
why is the shadow for your combat text so far away is that how that always looks or am i tweakin
It is when he does shadow damage it shows like that
The buffs are default!
It because of the NXP ring set. It does 9222 dmg
The combo points and energy arent tho I guess..
But its just sensei
pretty much default...
Status of assa rogue
Wheres whispyr
did that change to Deathstalker did anything to Sin? Are we going to play it in any other scenario than Delves?
some high end m+ players are testing it for the increased prio damage, but it's kinda unclear atm
leaning not really
What do i do now?
The only two upgrades i could get are mythic gaze or more realisticly mythic solarflare.
Is the play just to make another rogue? 🙂
I have no luck so far
heroic gaze @ 285 is probably better than a 298 solar flare
lost all hc gaze rolls since week 2 i think 🙂
well you can just reroll myth gaze until you get it
mythic chim is easily pugged
idk i just joined 3 groups
not without CE this late 🙂 Ive got decent parses for HC but people are crazy
and all 3 failed because smallies died too fast downstairs
and didnt get focused upstairs
lol
like yeah i can kite for a bit
half my guild pugs chim every week on like 280 alts
but not eternally
for sure
chim these days is just a fucking joke because we gear-crept it to shit
from our first kill on chim to our kill now, we went from 6:30 to nearly 4:30
yeah skipped third intermission on dragons this week no prablem

theres a 2:21 kill
Dw it will slow down with 12.0.7 upgrades!
our first averzian kill was nearly 7 min
now it's almost 3:30
we cut our averzian time
literally in half
in a single patch
literal joke of a game dude
I don't think the pugging part is the problem it's getting the invite
dont worry we are getting even stronger next patch
yeh this is gonna be <2min in 12.0.7
When will the first mythic beloren 1 phase happen
When I get out L’ura jail
I'm just gonna keep at it. Eventually I'll get an invite.
97 parse on HC and 290 avg. Maybe it'll be enough 😅
You eu?
Yep
I can invite you sometime I do
Cool, I'd love to
I should really do voidspire on HC just to see it 😅
I've only set foot up to boss 3 so far
That I don't have any issues finding groups for. Ilvl carries hard 😅
what am I supposed to do with this information
bro just shows up out of nowhere, posts an entirely out of context youtube short with no rogue
what is happening
Whispyr chill

I am chill?

No i dont think so
I am just confused about the situation we find ourselves in
That’s me with life
I have found the forbidden tech for the lura DS parse, how do i convince my raid to let me die in p3 right before we lust so that I can get lust in p4
brother what are you smoking right now
i think hes normal
could be
Whispyr your playing eu or Na
NA
i mean surely at some point some of the logs start lusting p4, in p3 we are phasing at like 7:40
maybe not my guild tho we need all the help we can get
Speaking of cursed tech, would you like to know some absolutely diabolical gearing tech?
I would love to know some
REBUFF REAUGMENT RUNE RELUST
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1465400109041713224/1509354833097003118/image.png?ex=6a18dfba&is=6a178e3a&hm=42c1384758d674533c76c35474508a0ca3459e8d01f98ebe22cce269d3254a77&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=221&height=42
This embellishment/trinket (darkmoon blood), procs your lowest stat right
u say this but this legit happened to our DK which is what gave me the idea, that exact thing was asked for going into p4 and he opened bag and re augment runed
Wouldn’t you do more damage in P3 when the dmg is duplicated?
If your lowest stats are all exactly equal, all of them get increased. So for example if you had all 4 stats equal you would get +76 in all stats instead of just one

i dont even know how i could even begin to start to compile a gear set that can do that
that is cursed
What happens with recklessness pot if all ur stats are equal
Its random between the highest stats
you also get mega damage buff in p4
Pin this and watch all hell break loose
p4 vs p3
If you can get 2 or more stats the trinket is good too, but if you managed to somehow get 3 stats then were in fucking buisiness bro
But again, its so fucking cursed to have exactly the same amount of stats
Thats its not feasible at all
Equal would almost not be possible mostly - u still have different number values for stats
% is not the value to Check u need to Check the number value
Stop wiping in p4 blud. Left, right, left
is there actually even a way to do that, like is it possible to sim through all the gear sets / variations of food/flasks and find one that works, and are there any classes whose buffs give like flat stats or w/e to throw it off
i havent caused a wipe in 450 wipes man im trying
Told you it was cursed 
We on 250 wipes atm and I thought we had it rough. This boss feels so rough for working uncs, the last hour of raid is draining
Haste mastery crit at the exact same and then you forgot vers existed..
Shades of MoP reforging for that trinket
yeah honestly the last half of our raid after our break lowkey is useless time people are not locked and that causes a spiral every time
its tiring
Ban breaks
Giving me PTSD from Star Augur wipes. Like I am just chilling in the well, then somewhere in the world something touches a crystal and we all died to something I couldn’t see
bro my guild is trying to compete with their wipe counts
this is the worst, like every pull its randomly kaboom from somewhere in the universe
oh my cheat death proc'd i guess were wiping
does the hunt also not just make this like crazy cursed also, anytime if you ever get both to proc at same time then like gg
My favorite is glaive through boss at the same time as memory puzzle beam and they are pixel stacked
Brother
Why would you run the hunt
Cheat death procced -> cloak sprint into middle to save repair costs
if you spent all this time optimizing for another embellishment
Run stat enchants also to fuck it up 
ok that is fair I perhaps did not use my critical thinking skills on that question
You are playing ds on lura
Thats a given
hey im swapping back, u never took a little detour for fun
Any other boss on which DS performs better?
it was pretty not good
i did a night as sub without guidon then said never again
Its not good on any raid fight
Eleem I perfectly balanced all my stats, but when I crit flask it goes way higher than all the other stats. How I fix?
Outlaw next raid?
Swapped to assa yday as crystals are a fixed issue atm
And praying for big execute in p3
quick Q, Deathstalker still bad M+ after buffs?
Insert it into a random cavity of yours
For low key, ya. For high key? Tja as we say
Tja
insane prio dmg, a bit worse aoe
Also means hello in Swedish 😅
I would more use it as a «depends, not sure etc»
And given pronociation can mean the above
lmao
Wait actually!
?*
Thought it was way behind in raid
brother read the context 😭
yeh legit
he even replied to make it easier to see
Got the thinkers of all time in here
People have free will, they are allowed to play the worse specs if they want
must have been auto correct, u ment to say best spec in the game surely
You are playing ds on lura
Thats a given
As you are sure to 🐝 benched
rogue buff is very much needed and we cannot be benched
i even rerolled from devourer for it thats how good it is
If you Benched at this point your attitude needs a rework as it is deffo a bad vibe angle
i have the benefit of not dying to the glaive boss also, but do not recommend ds is mega cringe and not good on lura
but, hear me out, DS technically is op because u can cloak the glaives and not get oneshot (surely) ???
L’ura is bugged and u can move mark to the friendly crystal and not get it back
pretty sure can do this on FB too or am i going schizo ?
i dont know i just move out of the way of the slow moving tumbleweed
maybe, but now maybe u can eat 2 of them


full leech gear, new crimson vial, DS for ultimate healing parse padding??? 
rogue tank spec was hidden in DS the entire time, infinite sustain
i think we are onto something
maybe sudden demise for a easy free 100 parse aswell on the dmg side
the good old days of BC evasion tanking
You guys need to touch some grass
i basically will with the ammount of HEALING i will be doing with my new tech
all i see is green and it aint money
our last reclear and I didn't get a good alleria parse 
i know how you feel last season i was stuck with a 2 parse on hunters
!ss
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Nelf racial works like a 2nd vanish?
no
Outlaw channel said something like that, figured theyd be wrong
In m+ on trash sometimes you can get it off
it is not 100% but if you a bit farther most of the times you get it off
But we only have imp gar anymore so who cares
Imp garrote is pretty big
u can shadowmeld into normal stealth in keys, u cannot in raid
but its pretty wonky and i dont think its that simple to do
Can you during key boss fight?
dont think so since u dont loose combat
havent done it myself because its like, not needed at all for timing a key
not really?
huh?
Dungeon and Raid Bosses put a global combat status on
you realise if it was some giga strong thing, it would be like, well known
Also no you can't do on bossfights
nah its not that big really
i remember whispyr talking about it on stream the other day and he was like saying that its like a 1% talent or something. dont remember exactly anymore
I wish imp garrote would just go away
they went after stealth interactions but for some reason left this specific one in
No I said you can cheese most of the mechanics you can cheese with vanish with meld
But who cares. It's fine having a 0,5 dmg increase
i mean
you could literally just compare a sim with imp garrote skilled and without it skilled
ok but how much gain is it when u run sudden demise (literally best talent) 
people just love to act as if imp garrote is this GIGA BIG 30% talent cus they read "does 50% more dmg"
when like
thats not how talents work

feelycraft > robot facts
but I do 30% more dmg
big yes?


you could but tryan
let me ask you a question
do i look like a person
who can be arsed enough
to go and sim it?
if the person wants to know he can go sim it 
numbers?
yes vov
you calculating fools
don't you want numbers?
the truth of assa rogue was revealed to me in a dream
ive already ran the numbers and they are looking insanely good for sudden demise stonks
Tell us my prophet
I don’t send you dreams to speak loudly of them
i was dreaming
that i was just pressing buttons
and did dmg
In your dream how good was imp garrote tho???
I have never dreamt of playing well
i remember when i played rogue as my first tier and i really had shit parses. this was before whispyr sat me down. i had nightmares of having 1 parses on every boss
because its reality for you right
very therapeutical
god has revealed to me that improved garrote is a 50% increase on 25% uptime for an ability that does 10-12% of your damage
u forgot the crit values
god forgets nothing
clearly did
crits are a static damage increase on a % of your hits, there's no special interaction with damage amps
anyone able to give me some tips based on this log? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kwvzX9R1aYP3qDyH?fight=1&type=damage-done

11 deathmarks in 32 minutes
you should have uhhh 17
if you cast on cd
so ur holding an insane amount
32 minutes with seemingly not a lot of big gaps in trash sections tells me the pulls were probably quite small ?
Also the frost mage being 59 on Parse% but 0 on Key% is just hella wierd. Are a majority of frost mages just giga bad ?
well yeah, but in comparison the demo is 49% - 42%
the disparity is nowhere near the same
well the mage did tank damage
reletive to the run but maybe not to all misara caverns runs
ah so lotsa frost mages running low keys with low ilvl I guess ?
compared to demolocks
That's insulting to tank damage
There is 134208 Frost mages that have a parse, but 19127 mages for 12 key.

gotta love that there are literally 10x less sin parses than the other two dpses
Nobody inviting sin rogues
More like 10x less sin rogues running around
That too xd
cuz I usually don't need much time to get into a key
in the ~12 range
well
tbf I have literally almost max ilvl for the season
so...
anyhow, the subject of the run
with so few deaths all that tells me the tank was probably making more small pulls than recommended
which, given their ilvl, is understandable
So i understand how it's harder to evaluate where you want to DM in that situation
but in that case it's okay to just shrug and let DM go on targets that are not the usual big focus guys
if you'd otherwise sit on it for 1min+
Well
I'd also say pressing ur abilities sooner than 30s into the dungeon would also help
he only pulled the first 4 mobs at first, was waiting for him to gather the first big pull
yeah If your tank baits you it's not gonna go well from the get go
Looking at the replay there isn't really a reason for you not to setup your damage on the adds while he was walking them down
He coulda pulled faster for sure
But imo its a good habit to use tricks and set up a little before the pull is fully gathered
so just drop full combo on the 4 mobs?
Dont drop your cds
but bleed them up and setup for your cds when the pull is gathered
i see
Anything is better than doing actually nothing for 30s 😛
Though do this only if you are assured your tank is actually battling the mobs
you'd be surprised how many tanks just faceaggro mobs and let that sit for 10+ seconds until they settle
and then it's just garrote, smack, udead
..that is what tricks is for
how do you use tricks, ive never used it
Just use it when you know it would help the tank
Should be used before every trash pull usually
Just a good habit to let you setup for free
I am maybe overly cautious because the way tricks work sometimes the timeline of triggers is iffy, making faceaggro still potentially dangerous
a tank with literally zero aggro can leave mobs to smack you just as you enter combat with them, just before the redirected aggro makes them change to tank
Never seen that happen but sure anything can happen tbf
Just don't think tricks will save you from getting oneshot by the boss on pull because you were closer than the tank when the boss activates
yeah that too x)
as a habitual tricks early and start hitting during gather rogue it does happen but i think only truesight mobs that tank social aggros
ill see if i can get an improved log
and also if ur slow
Also don't forget to pandemic your improved garrote
Plenty of times here you aren't reapplying garrote before the imp garrote buff fades
and usually pulls should last over 16s tbf
I mean its legit massive
Its 150% of a normal garrote
For like 30 seconds of a fight
You always want it if possible, but it isn't make or break important
I mean 30000 milliseconds of a 150% damage garrote... That is a lot of numbers
Only if you can't understand numbers
i mean 30000 and 150 are bigger numbers than the number 30 which you mentioned
QED it is massive
Clearly we should take serrated bone spike over it, oh wait
@marsh fjord since you are the numbers guy can you confirm this
Let me do my calculations
Yeah its looking massive
Imp garrote is a 50% dps increase talent
Trust my numbers and my numbers only
Thank you

Always, either that or just vibecrafting
Ah fuck dont tell me you have to log yourself on chimaerus for accurate numbers
you dont
yo @balmy condor does the embellishment on dagger scale with the voidcore upgrade?
iirc people said yes
p sure it dont scale
man i got baited
not that it changes anything gearing wise
just actually thought since people said it scaled with ilvl, that it'd also scale with the upgrade
Why is that?
Secret technique clones aren't properly attributed to you if the person logging is more than 100 yards away or in another "realm"
So technically you don't need to log yourself, but you need to be in the same group as the person logging
classic
Cut them some slack, it's only been 3 expansions since the bug was introduced

akaari?
its the same bug as the legendary?

i need a tip on paladins, how do you guys keep uptime dots in all three? theres always one so far away
always far away? tank is doing something wrong then
he should move far away for that boss circle and after that stack again, so you just CT to bleed that boss and gg
You can refresh a bit before pandemic as well
yeah, refresh a little early when you know he is going to move
i always feel like the bleeds drop while the skill is being cast
boss is far away, nothing you can do about it
if you refresh rupture early it shouldnt drop, but garrote can drop a little bit
for crown/lura talents etc, why are people taking 2 points fatal concoction over 1 point fatal 1 point poison bomb?
Kinda noob question and not directly Sin Rogue related, but why sometimes i cant shadowmeld>invis in the middle of some packs? Am I not fast enough or is it supposed to be like that?
more damage, where it matters and warcraftlogs doesnt count p1 blobs damage
Sometimes it just doesnt work
Nothing else to it
poison bomb outsims the second point of fatal tho on pure st and low cleave
gg guys washed
my goat rodent gas
this site does NOT like that im saving my kick for important casts
what's the website called please ?
xD ok i'm gonna check this out ty x)
You gotta kick the site into shape 
spoken like a carried individual..
don't speak to me if you are not a GOD KICK
Amazing, I'm almost exclusively playing with a paladin tank... I'm also kinda garbage, but that's besides the point
guess you are not allowed to talk to boli then ^^
about to add "link your carried.io profile" on the group finder 🥀
just wait for someone to create a carried.io addon which displays individuals scores in the tooltip
(i am joking, if thats not obvious)
Hey short question. when i got a enhanced garrote running and have to replace it with the normal unbuffed version. do i let the enhanced drop off to not lose a tick OR can i savety replace it and wont lose the last few enhanced ticks?
The former
i let fall it off and replace it as soon as it dropped. kk thanks 🙂
I just garrote at 1 second
the only time you clip it is in extended aoe
since you'd also drop it on every other target too
which is bad
ok thanks for the advice
is this in the wowhead guide? didnt saw it
this whole clip/no clip question and when
im sure wowhead says not to clip improved garrote
which is generally the correct advice
the guy writing it is not even playing wow
listening to a maplestory player
smh
is zero cooking double arcano atm?
I feel like I'm not understanding the value of ranked 4 apex talent. It just does a tiny bit of damage and one combo point, is that really worth a point, over, say Avulsion? Rupture seems to do about 12~14% in keys, a flat 20% increase to that seems to be more than the maybe 1.5% damage the implacable strikes do
Hello, kinda lost with the changes at the moment, what is strongest rn fatebound or deathstalker?
it hits 5 times and each hit spatters
and it actually does some decent dmg
using this log as an example, I still don't see how that dmg is considered meaningful
like, decent dmg being .92% + .5% seems still < 20% of 14.73%, or am I just missing something entirely
i mean, thats also dmg going into spatter and building cp
- kb ramps faster
uh isn’t rank 4 for the apex the regen after stacks expire
no
no
its the kb lashes
oh the regen is baked into the first point i see
i can’t say i’ve read the tree recently so
oops that was dslice
Trying to decide on which piece to target this week.
Do I go for the neck/ring on pit, the pants on spire, or the back from MT?
This is so I am geared for vanguard.
I crafted a crit haste neck for the mean time.
wow its even worse in ST
I have the mythic back from imp and wrists from vor 4/7 pieces are pretty good.
does ds mark transfer button have a cd
25 seconds i think
it's 1 combo point per lash, plus the original kingsbane hit, so 6
just noticed that fan of knives makes your character sheathe their weapons, and then when you envenom you pull them back out, so really it must be exhausting
can you post in #1146207476983812117
you can back sheathe transmog now for higher dps
incorrect
highest dps is actually transmogging to fist weapons
so you never actually have to put your weapons down
Just tmog the brass knuckles so it looks like you are bleeding things with your fist
which also if you havent tried it yet, transmogging to fist weapons on assassination is hilarious
it looks like youre boxing your target on your melees
which is just ridiculous
I go worgen with claw looking fist weapons for tmog so it looks like I am slashing with claws for the bleeds.
tbf, look at the rupture icon

Hi, I have a question. Does anyone know why some people use the wound poison on the first pulls in Maisara?
Been a while since i done a Maisara but is there healing something?
Thats the only use for it. but its a DPS loss if they do.
I cant remember something getting healed in the first pull of maisara tho
the adds there have a strong healing effect
outlaw/sub can take wound poison with no drawback
for assa it REALLY sucks, but can be worth it for that pull if the other 2 dps do enough dmg
Wait
What adds have healing?
the berserkers and spear throwers
oh didnt even knew that
I had that little doubt because I've seen that some people use it.
the invisible monk fist weapons are lowkey the best in the game
they heal 3% max hp every 5 sec or smth like that
yeha for assa wound poison is a bit oof
improved wound poison should add the heal reduction effect to deadly poison, change my mind
i remember going it for the add before last boss in halls of attonement
was grief
but it speed it up for sure
let them be upright and use no weapon and that would be a dream
Hey guys switching from sub to assass, I've been watching vids but dont understand how you keep garrote up , am I dumb or can you cast it out of stealth? All these guides say to maintain it but I dont get how if I dont have vanish up
yes you can use garrote outside of stealth
garrote as a stealth only ability was a thing like.......15years ago? idk 
I also came back to wow after 12 years so im new again
Thank you sir
Didn't even realize you get more than 2 poisons now too
tbf, thats a assassination talent
cus like, assa is the poison/bleed spec and stuff
so it kinda makes sense
Game is just so diff , like wtf is outlaw , its combat
its combat with a couple more abilitys
instead of just "keep snd up and spamm evisc"
Yeah like snd just happens now
Its a slots machine spec that has high apm reqs, old combat was so snoozefest
I was assasss back in the day and switched because it was the new hotness but now it seems I can go back and not be bottom of dmg charts anymore
@solar wyvern in ur seat did u swap on last boss to ST DS or fate?
tbf, 12 years ago that was allready the case
if anything, they tried to make manual SnD a thing again
just to realise after years of people yelling at them
that manual SnD casting fucking sucks

Yeah but manual SnD is part of it
i was fate and i dont recommend it over sub tbh
was experimenting
nah i cranked as fate
shit owns
sp, arms, assa
meta comp

!poison
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
There we go
My conclusion to this is that paladins suck
Alexa show me the lura r34
i got a huge ass gyrados in my hotel room
we know
Nice
does anyone have macro for kick? so i can copy paste

Don't forget rupture
And you didn't spam, nowhere near enough energy for that
Calculated pooling yessir
weren't a lot of old mobs immune to bleeding? like elementals and mechanicals
iirc when soleah gambit came out originally the murloc totems were immune to bleed
Ok grandpa, time to go to sleep

Well, with mechanical you can justify them bleeding through ruptured hydraulic lines. Elementals, no clue. And apparently the books in Academy are anatomy books because they have kidneys. . .
At what point shoulld I swap to deathstalker if any?
if you feel like you want to do less overall but more prio damage in m+
otherwise no reason to
At the point where you are terminally ill enough to play SD
i mean you wanna see?
And don't listen to the nonsense about lower aoe, feels > sims
Deathstalker and SD
Should? Is subjective. There are fights like Chimny, and Vealgot and Ezzra that are funnel fights where you have clear priority targets and sporadic adds that you can aoe for combo points and funnel envenoms on to target. But the math shows only marginal gains if any.
It used to be so flavorful game wise but I do not miss it at all lol
On this same topic, there’s no worse feeling than leveling a priest in classic and having to kill elementals that are the same type as your wand
There is no worse feeling than being a priest in maisara caverns and your only cc button being useless for 2/3rds of the dungeon
go play rogue
Im trying to have fun thanks
you can only play rogue
I have fun on rogue 

yall think ill be able to sleep and wake up in 3h
i shouldve gone to sleep 3 hours ago 
Ty
is it ok if I`m using 1st death mark on pull and then holding it for 2 kb uses and then send it with the 3rd one so I can get bonus dmg on execute phase? In m+
hey guys i am wondering if i can only use [Crippling Poison] on my main hand or is there a way to change it
if you dont lose a use of dm yea you can reverse your last kb/dm+kb to get dm in execute
what are you trying to accomplish
you can't apply poisons to a particular weapon slot
they're just applied to you
ok thanks
anyone having an issue with energy generation on deathstalker? i know i am bad at math but i find it much easier to keep energy up on fatebound
Well yeah fatebound gives more energy
maybe im just bad at the tracking of deathstalker's mark but i find myself rushing to put it on and eating past the apex 80% gen
constantly
i assumed rush on fb and darkest night in deathstalker where comparable
energy gain wise?
The fatebound one gives more on average, but you also get more combo points so you get more finishers off
<@&224906552333697025> is this the right ping for this?
if i ever get got and post a mr beast link one day
remember me for who i was
an idiot

I shit you not, one of my friends on Discord DM'd me with this shit
They got him

!ban @brisk phoenix spam
yeah it's bad these days
why do you guys not have one of these channels where bots get insta banned when they type in it
they do
what 2 poisons are we using for M Vael/Ezz?
its mostly people already on the discord that get phished
we do
ofc
in other discords its a normal channel tho
like when a guy like thast gets hacked they just auto send in every channel no
idk
i didnt know we had one
sheeit
was hoping for a "yeah just use guidon" so I didn't have to touch this fuckass trinket
Just half a season left
Then we can say bye bye box
(someone insert the image of tossing puzzlebox away I don't have it)
no more box in season 2?
same
We gonna have to fish for a different on-use mastery trinket
Ideally one that lasts 14s and ramps up over its duration

new bug discovered
used a reroll in PoS for the dagger
only item left on loot table for me
whoopsie, im in outlaw loot spec
the roll just keeps spinning
and spinning
i hearth
still spinning
i reload
spinning stopped. 1 voidcore gone
no loot
neato

have to wait until next week to finish gearing i guess 🥲
have you tried asking their robot for help
lol

yeah
they almost never restore anything loot related outside of auto loot restore system
was a slog of a key too, 285 aff lock doing 60k overall
27k on garfrost without dying, actually impressive
Thank god
Daggers arent going to cost an arm and leg pog
mythic alleria down with a 93 parse

this is actually so massive
bro wtf they're nerfing my indestructible main hand
unbelievable
i #grinded for this


dont look at my parse
i got too many mechanics
and played the last phase like shit
is there a way to track how many mobs have my dots on them vs how many are in combat?
no
should we abbreviate our opener on birb?
no
p1 wipe factory here i come
ty
how did you get this picture of me
i hate homework keys
every key that i timed WAS MY WORST PERFROMING TRY
GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
!ui
Resources:
ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
AyjieCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended due to poor performance and bad buff filtering)
(Jundies Profile)
(Whispyr's Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement
Grats gamer
Get ready bud
More fun for a week and then more pain
clocking into my shift
Hey guys! Super new to rouge ut been playing the game for forever. Do i ever fan of knives in aoe or is it crimson forever?
Crimson untl all mobs have bleeds then you fan to build
ty! THats what i thought but i was watching pikaboo press it like a madman haha
He’s an interesting guy for sure
whats the best way to track kingsbane stack?
no need to track that, useless info 
I’m sure the CDM could but yeah idk why you would
yeah but you can't control the stacks
!wa
Resources:
ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
AyjieCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended due to poor performance and bad buff filtering)
(Jundies Profile)
(Whispyr's Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement
Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.
Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1
Do we refresh Rupture during the egg phase of beloren or just continue to blast with envenoms and refresh once it's a birb again? So far I tried to apply a 7 CP rupture at the start which leads to ~8s lost, which if I am treating it like the enemy "dies" in those 8s then I should not reapply, correct? I should clarify for maximizing dmg on the egg as we lack quite a bit.
who can point me in a right direction for mythic plus rotation
!guide
you just rupture like normal
But didnt you state at some point that rupture isnt worth it if the target dies within 15s? I know its probably not much but I think we will need the damage for our first kill. Im currently top dmg behind our only shaman on the egg and we have quite a few people that seem to attack with wet noodles :D But if you say so, then I trust
How’s L’ura treating u bud? Surely you uncs are struggling like us aswell
Me when I play sudden demise
This rides the line of super real and super cringe I love it and hate it
what dungeon to spend my voidcores on after pit?
AA for puzzle box
Maisara caverns for the back piece mog
You can get the same one for free from somewhere iirc
Already sent 5 bonus rolls too late to quit now

those commands have been dead for a while
On paladins right?
wdym? paladins is the best fight ever
Paladins is a good fight
hot take: they have never made a fun council/court boss ever
The one in vault of incarnate was ok because it was the second boss so nothing did anything
It was just a 4 target cleave boss pretty much
the best part about it was that it was early so u never had to prog it
I don't know if you can say this is a council boss, but the council boss in Antorus in Legion was pretty good.
Because one went away when the other jumped in
Shivarra something
i mean i just really dislike 2-4 boss fights because classes that have bad cleave/bad small aoe get giga punished for no reason
council boss in antorus was ass
In my opinion, bad cleave or small AOE is a big part of why council bosses suck sometimes. also i only play melee, and most council bosses are just aids for melee because of the mechanics they are spewing.
With the walls?
You think
I enjoyed it
lock did double dmg of classes so people just brought alts
@marsh fjord ye we agree 🤝
!bugs
its the same problem as ever, they just suck so generally just put them early in the raid so they arent pure pain for 1/3 of your raid
10-16 key range is a straight dumpster fire right now
it does not get better in 20s my friend
my 285 tank in a +12 saying he cant live....
i just be leaving atp, not progging a +12, gimme deserter idc its not worth my sanity
reroll tank and be ur own issue 
To be fair I had a horrendous time tanking a 12 a few nights ago when 3/5 people were just not kicking
its a downstream consequence of 10's being so insanely easy that you can rock up with like 240 ilvl if even that
so people assume they're basically just new heroics
It’s been 99% alright tbh just get once in a while shit
!ss
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
I grinded for this view
bro got a reciept as a trinket
Its also not the crit one 
But the char has 12 bonus rolls ready to go, it will be capped in no time
that's right little critter equip your mastery and spec sub
Will probably rat my way into 1 key, play outlaw and then log out forever
I'm guaranteed a myth dagger from pit on my rogue this week
man I need to do a lot of keys this weekend actually been away the whole week
warlock rogue and I want to decide between paladin or shaman next

chief rat officer of rats incorporated
No enchants no crafts no consumes hits you with "keys?" What do you do?
blow their head shmoove off









