no funnel no good
#assassination
balmy condor
spice surge
Fwiw pretty sure deathstalker sub has around the same prio as fatebound
balmy condor
Fwiw pretty sure deathstalker sub has around the same prio as fatebound
that's not a real combination of hero talents/specs
glossy dust
assa to sub feels like 20%
iron thorn
DS sub can’t hurt you, it doesn’t exist
spice surge
Because its like -15%
iron thorn
glossy dust
deathstalker is crazy
i ment even fatebount sin to sub
glossy dust
sry i ment more like 200%
balmy condor
that's all it does
spice surge
But the prio damage specifically is still good
balmy condor
it does it very well
iron thorn
Once again asking the question whether I fuck around on DS Sub for crown or just don’t and play assa
Idk I’m so done with raid atp
balmy condor
for assa it's worse in st, worse in cleave, and without the prio/funnel it's worse aoe as well
balmy condor
the only reason it does "more aoe" is beccause of the extra prio pushing it higher
singular focus carrying the hero talent
latent kernel
singular focus makes brain so happy
iron thorn
Sub has either ST or AoE no?
glossy dust
st is pretty good
spice surge
Because sub has no prio
Yeah sub is only doing about the same damage it does on ST in big aoe pulls, thats absolutely no prio 
glossy dust
but sins st felt fine too no?
spice surge
Subs prio is fine
iron thorn
Well prio without giving up AoE
spice surge
I am talking about when you BP yes
iron thorn
Wasn’t the big saying that sub lost virtually all of its prio damage with how they’ve changed the cleave thing from trickster
I’m confused now
glossy dust
cleave is terrible y
iron thorn
Like you either eviscerate or you bp now
spice surge
Yes
iron thorn
Ofc eviscerate is prio
iron thorn
But it’s literally saying single target is prio
spice surge
So overall the prio damage is similar to pure ST damage
glossy dust
fr?
spice surge
storm + bp
Does more damage
than backstab +backstab
Which makes up for the fact that bp does less damage than eviscerate
iron thorn
And in what world is that prio? That’s just doing AoE damage
spice surge
?????????
latent kernel
prio dmg isnt like aoe vs single target, its just a measure of how much you can do to your main target while still maintaining aoe dmg
latent kernel
no
iron thorn
Like tww sub is what I understand as prio
iron thorn
Which is why I’m having a hard time understanding how storm bp is considered prio
glossy dust
Yeah sub is only doing about the same damage it does on ST in big aoe pulls, tha...
this
sounds very good
spice surge
Which is why I’m having a hard time understanding how storm bp is considered pri...
Prio damage is just the damage your main target takes
Im not saying storm + bp does good prio damage
Im saying the damage it does, is similar to what you would do on pure st
because backstab does fuck all
iron thorn
Now that’s something I understand lol
spice surge
Like if i do 110k on a ST boss
And i do 108k to a priority mob
Thats similar yes?
Even though i used different spells
iron thorn
Yeah yeah now I get you
balmy condor
spice surge
Whereas assa might do 98k to a boss, but then 118k to a prio mob
iron thorn
But then again, if you do 108k to a prio mob but also ALL the other mobs
spice surge
(numbers pulled out of my ass)
iron thorn
Is that really prio
spice surge
But then again, if you do 108k to a prio mob but also ALL the other mobs
But you dont do it to all mobs?
balmy condor
That reminds me, @main bobcat
latent kernel
every class in the game has prio just bc of melee
glossy dust
this spec
latent kernel
melee*
iron thorn
Unseen blade, coup, auto attacks
Okay but now we’re not sticking to storm bp lol
But yeah I get your point
spice surge
?
glossy dust
iron thorn
I just feel like that’s saying owl does prio because you have to cast wrath/starfire to press starfall
spice surge
No
iron thorn
You get what I mean?
spice surge
Are you ragebaiting
spice surge
Do you know what prio means
iron thorn
Damage done to a focus target while doing normal aoe rotation
iron thorn
So big guy in aoe pull gets the same dmg
iron thorn
As a boss does
drifting cloud
sub swaps 1 talent point
glossy dust
no nvm theres no way
drifting cloud
in st or m+
spice surge
Not the same as deathstalker singletarget no
spice surge
As a boss does
Yes
latent kernel
this gotta be bait lol
iron thorn
No I’m 100% real not baiting
balmy condor
I am the master bater
iron thorn
Proof
latent kernel
I just feel like that’s saying owl does prio because you have to cast wrath/star...
also this statement isnt even entirely true tho, wrath on boomkin does contribute to your prio dmg in aoe
iron thorn
also this statement isnt even entirely true tho, wrath on boomkin does contribut...
I should have added good
Was unsure whether or not I should
burnt ember
wow the dps for krick's beetle stabber is nearly identical to hungering victory. It's crazy how close they are.
iron thorn
Okay final thing then eleem and sorry for being so dense today. Sub prio was better in tww because we could use strike/eviscerate on higher target count resulting in more dmg to prio target than pure storm/bp spam would have been right?
plain thistle
dagger has very low amount of secondary stats
balmy condor
wow the dps for krick's beetle stabber is nearly identical to hungering victory....
secondaries in 2026 omegalul
iron thorn
Now its not that good anymore but not bad either, right?
spice surge
Okay final thing then eleem and sorry for being so dense today. Sub prio was bet...
Yes in tww the prio would be higher than pure ST
haughty flicker
it almost took the same amount of effort to post that into discord as it wouldve taken to make that
radiant aspen
lone pasture
hi chat
storm forum
anyone else benched tonight?
iron thorn
I geared an Aug
haughty flicker
drifting cloud
nothing of value was lost
iron thorn
I‘m the one that filled the rogue spot after the one we had swapped to shadow
For this season
runic hinge
why are there so many of us
iron thorn
Played shadow once
Never again
In general don’t see myself ever raiding on caster again
I‘m just a melee girl and that’s all
storm forum
rogue are just melee priests for some reason
radiant aspen
ds buff was last thing for me new im ddh
iron thorn
Too bad to perform on ddh
storm forum
the unplayable spec became slightly less unplayable and that's ur breaking point?
radiant aspen
Too bad to perform on ddh
its easy
iron thorn
My dh is a tank now
radiant aspen
the unplayable spec became slightly less unplayable and that's ur breaking point...
im aincent hater of ds
and now this mark clip thing
radiant aspen
im not doing that shit
storm forum
i dont think anyone is doing that shit
iron thorn
3 Stars Max per pack is not it
radiant aspen
i dont think anyone is doing that shit
yeah but if i know theres way to min max and i dont do it
it will destroy me
iron thorn
It’s not a minmax
storm forum
are you doing 20s?
iron thorn
DS still straight up worse
radiant aspen
are you doing 20s?
yes
storm forum
ok
radiant aspen
20/21s
iron thorn
And you still got law to play in keys
storm forum
maybe thats a real concern
iron thorn
Which is decent fun
storm forum
in my 17/18/19s if i have an aug shit is barely living CDs as FB
and they would not live as DS
so im not worrying about it
iron thorn
And that’s why I play outlaw in keys nowadays
little tulip
96 parse on myth dragons n_n
iron thorn
Went full circle lol
storm forum
nice
radiant aspen
nah rouge will always be my main but for resto of season im not gonna torrment my team and my self to play rogue anymore
little tulip
storm forum
i have too much brain lag to play OL
iron thorn
Started as law, went sub, then assa, then sub for 2 bosses again and now back to law
Games good
little tulip
had a 100 parse last week when we didn't have dks in the group
230k through both intermissions 
radiant aspen
im just glad i kept my alt ddh to relevant ilvl
iron thorn
I have my main at 289.89 (cringe to not hit 290 this week), then tank dh at 285 and Aug at 284 with like 4 bonusrolls left to spend
radiant aspen
thats good
haughty flicker
my priest is still using the neck from the 3 week pvp quest
i need to just craft one
radiant aspen
my rogue is 288 and ddh is 277 but gear is good i just need to spam 10s for crests
haughty flicker
alleria refuses to drop it
iron thorn
my priest is still using the neck from the 3 week pvp quest
Thats bis for survival hunters apparently
iron thorn
my rogue is 288 and ddh is 277 but gear is good i just need to spam 10s for cres...
Okay but how do you do relevant dmg in 10s as ddh
Because low keys just sound like misery for that spec
radiant aspen
Okay but how do you do relevant dmg in 10s as ddh
oh in 10s ddh sucks
xD
u kinda cant
iron thorn
Surely I‘ll do gigadam in 16s and up
cunning needle
what the fuck have i seen in the pin with using fok in single target
radiant aspen
Surely I‘ll do gigadam in 16s and up
way more then in 10s
cunning needle
are you guys okay
iron thorn
what the fuck have i seen in the pin with using fok in single target
It’s DS, it’s not real
cunning needle
It’s DS, it’s not real
idk man, people here would lick their left nut if it gave them a .2% dps increase
cunning needle
iron thorn
eu shut down
Finally free
vivid elm
this is crazy lmao
radiant aspen
yeah feels good ill play couple games of hots and go sleep
iron thorn
Opening vault tomorrow and I think I can only be disappointed
iron thorn
Tank needs a gaze or guidon
spice spire
Opening vault tomorrow and I think I can only be disappointed
That’s how you get a good vault
iron thorn
Idk what I prefer tbf
vital flicker
this is crazy lmao
I mean you can also just not FoK in ST ever and nobody will ever notice
spice spire
I mean you can also just not FoK in ST ever and nobody will ever notice
I’ll notice
And that’s enough
vivid elm
I mean you can also just not FoK in ST ever and nobody will ever notice
imagine if someone log peeps and sees me muting in st
it'd be joever
radiant aspen
this is crazy lmao
this is bad designe
and ds in general is bad
like core of that hero talant is bad it does not work
radiant aspen
imagine this now u have to play ds assa u have to do this crazy mark clipping and sweating
and u will still be last dps in ur group
hear me out
iron thorn
Wait I might be safe in general this week
radiant aspen
what if they make outlaw like gunslinger and turn it into range rogue spec
with guns
iron thorn
I think I get legs/ring from pit guaranteed this week
vivid elm
what if they make outlaw like gunslinger and turn it into range rogue spec
dev dh department called
it wants its idea back
vivid elm
https://giphy.com/gifs/he-made-a-statement-so-cold-Q3lYLqsi6wIkcbmVRL
this is crazy bro
radiant aspen
ahh its just for memes
balmy condor
ahh its just for memes
radiant aspen
little tulip
snow zealot
why not sin on mythic lura
viral widget
sorry i have stupid question but are you support to vanish garrote then deathmark?
cunning needle
why not sin on mythic lura
no reason not to
unless youre looking for a reason not to
polar sail
How ds now
feral nexus
seems tedious to play but should be good
keen raven
imagine this now u have to play ds assa u have to do this crazy mark clipping an...
Tbh when I play asa I'm usually top DMG
radiant aspen
Tbh when I play asa I'm usually top DMG
i play with premade unholy and retri
idk maybe im just bad
xD
radiant aspen
what key level
radiant aspen
hm i play around same i mean there are times when i beat them but
not moustly id say
keen raven
I will say dk with ret
Prob kills shit too quick
For you to get value on bleeds
Just reroll dh 4hed
vital radish
what do you guys think of the buff changes would it make deathstalker better than fate in M+?
runic hinge
no
cunning needle
maybe
royal hazel
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.
Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1
sick sail
Do I have to unstuck my character every time i die as assassination rogue in the mage tower? wtf
is this an ongoing bug?
balmy condor
not one that I've heard of
sick sail
its wild so apparently if ur deathstalker, the dot remains when you die, so i swapped to trickster, and apparently rupture is still active still
sick sail
yea was bored just did the sub one yesterday
i just need to exit the game and release so ill just keep doing that, oh well was hoping someone had this experience
snow kindle
I did mage tower and did not have that experience
But then again I did not do it as DS at first
sick sail
Its fine like right now, im forced to exit the game and restart
doesnt help im dying ha
i googled it and it just keeps me in combat somehow, i cant not rupture lol
and im trickster
bleak tusk
Do u think DS could be better than fate on mythic paladins with the buff?
I'd hate having to go back on DS but I'm wondering if maybe it could be better on this specific encounter
fallow canopy
Do u think DS could be better than fate on mythic paladins with the buff?
I'd...
probably not enough to learn when not to have the mark on x or y boss
if any
coral ibex
Do u think DS could be better than fate on mythic paladins with the buff?
I'd...
lol
i just imagined juggling mark on paladins
on top of the misery that was prog
i think i would have likely benched myself by force
bleak tusk
i think i would have likely benched myself by force
Totally understandable, but I had to ask, just to be sure x)
feral nexus
Is the ds tree for M+ and raid the one on wowhead or is there a more optimized one now?
polar sail
Ds better than fate?
vital flicker
Ds better than fate?
The short answer is no
latent kernel
wowzer blizzard servers just shit themselves
on alleria with 7%
they crashed
so sad
latent kernel
Can’t wait to get off this boss
worn geyser
guys we actually might hit 500 tomorrow we are approaching CN territory
haughty flicker
worn geyser
haughty flicker
clear knoll
game lagging?
grave nova
deep latch
bro i know robot says this is good but like it feels liek i want more mastery no?
rotund oak
keen spruce
turbid yacht
We did it
sweet ledge
hows this look ? i cant figure out where to go from here (not a mythic raider)
balmy condor
4 crafted items is crazy
but aside from that 
they're all myth track
that's good
myth track good, hero track bad
ilvl best stat you can get
sweet ledge
so i should replace 2 crafted items?
balmy condor
yeah I mean ideally your offhand is crafted and your wrists/cloak is crafted
boots/ring/mainhand craft gotta go
especially the mainhand dagger
balmy condor
okay but why would you
sweet ledge
so i should try to get the dagger on myth track from pit maybe ?
balmy condor
any myth track dagger yes
storm forum
cause i have hero boots and no bonus rolls
balmy condor
then yeh, craft them I guess
same amount of crests spent
if that's the situation then just send it
fallow canopy
guys we actually might hit 500 tomorrow we are approaching CN territory
any p4 pulls?
today i mean
fallow canopy
there's one in the pic but I think that was on the previous pic he sent last week i think
haughty flicker
that one doesnt count
bc i didnt see the picture just the response
so it doesnt exist
fallow canopy
valid
coral ibex
man im straight up not having a good time waiting for seed carriers to figure it out on lura
haughty flicker
fallow canopy
man im straight up not having a good time waiting for seed carriers to figure it...
soon ™
I just find it funny someone saw fyrakk last phase and thought hmm what if we did that for most of the fight
coral ibex
last time i got upset over a personal responsibility mech being handled by someone who shouldn't be on a personal responsibility mech the guy quit the game after the tier so idk if i wanna bring it up at this point
haughty flicker
keen spruce
last time i got upset over a personal responsibility mech being handled by someo...
that'a good thing tho
golden loom
no alleria neck no sub
haughty flicker
wicked scaffold
full mythic now
barren yarrow
ty King
elfin flame
are we rly spamming fok in ST
balmy condor
if you're playing ds in keys, yes
elfin flame
holy pog
barren yarrow
legit crazy style
balmy condor
imagine you're on a ST boss, you envenom
you get darkest night
fok, doesn't crit
fok, doesn't crit
fok, doesn't crit
fok, doesn't crit
fok, doesn't crit
fok, doesn't crit
you're at 6cp
you press shiv to get the 7th cp
elfin flame
that owns fr
barren yarrow
that feels like, illegal lol
but how vs the normal rotation is that optimal?
or is that the "normal" rotation lol
sorry last time i played DS that was TWW and we had weak auras tracking shit lol
barren yarrow
hmm, beyond weird but i mean, when arent we broken and have to figure out a way around it?
balmy condor
are there any talent changes going from fb to ds
flying daggers
otherwise no
can scroll up
I linked talents like 15 min ago
elfin flame
ok w ty
proud carbon
hey everybody, did someone know if i replace the crafted dagger (in my offhand) with a mythic one and swap the embellishment to another slot? belt?
rapid patio
i think you can
balmy condor
hey everybody, did someone know if i replace the crafted dagger (in my offhand) ...
you should not do that
proud carbon
in case im full mythic geared
balmy condor
offhand with embellishment is our best in slot
proud carbon
ok thanks @balmy condor
haughty flicker
np
silver wharf
new tallent for mplus?
balmy condor
that's the one
gritty musk
Are we consuming mutilate at 3 stacks even in AOE?
balmy condor
ST only
golden loom
just like god intended
balmy condor
read the pin pls
safe barn
DS must die
gritty musk
Feels bad having 3 stacks in AOE and not pressing mutilate lol
safe barn
whispyr do something
silver wharf
3 targets mutilate?
balmy condor
you would fok on 2
balmy condor
Feels bad having 3 stacks in AOE and not pressing mutilate lol
that's your concern? I feel like the last thing the spec needs is a third generator to press in aoe
gritty musk
Just having it boosted and it not being worth pressing on your prio target
I briefly read the pinned message. That was extremely helpful. Thank you!
balmy condor
np
gritty musk
I feel the like “secondary poisoning” talent could be removed/reworked and a baseline secondary effect for mutilate since we’re boosting it with Unshakeable Drive
balmy condor
but we're not pressing it in aoe
golden loom
hell no bel
haughty flicker
golden loom
keep mutilate out of aoe please and thank you
would rather have fatal intent back over pressing mutilate in aoe cause of unshakeable drive
AMEN
gritty musk
but we're not pressing it in aoe
I’m saying if it was reworked to worth pressing so that we get a juicy mutilate after consuming 3 Deathstalker marks.
gritty musk
🥲 guess it’s just me who wouldn’t mind lol 😅
deep latch
for ST right?
That was dslice
balmy condor
yeh that's probably reasonable as well
could in theory drop some haste for mastery in like big aoe dungeons
but doesn't matter much
deep latch
Okay fair ty ty
bleak tusk
Can't we let this hero talent die alone in his corner ? 🙁
snow zealot
Any vods for assassination mythic lura?
main bobcat
That reminds me, <@521269466567409681>
golden loom
+11 magisters, I LOVE DEMISE
buoyant herald
low key ☑️
only 2 dps ☑️
sudden demise 📈
golden loom
low key ☑️
only 2 dps ☑️
sudden demise 📈
not to mention there are a billion small useless adds in magisters that just get insta killed by demise
buoyant herald
true, great key for it
golden loom
sadly missed my bonus rolls for cloak tho
buoyant herald
if i can roll pit dagger and gaze with my 3 rolls this week i think im actually finished gearing
i think pit dagger is guaranteed
inland abyss
i have 4 BR left...
bronze plover
i have 4 BR left...
how does double haste weapon enchantment feels?
inland abyss
how does double haste weapon enchantment feels?
balmy condor
I doubt you would ever be able to tell when it procs lmao
ancient ingot
Guys servers up?
lusty kraken
how is the FoK in single target life boys?
alpine elm
how is the FoK in single target life boys? <:garf:1320173032743899157>
It's not good
golden loom
From how many targets does Fan of Knives start?
!fok
prisma monolithBOT
Fok/Generator Conditions in Midnight
Always finish on 5+ combo points, or go to maximum with Darkest Night Envenom
- Crimson Tempest -> until all targets have bleeds
- Fan of Knives -> 2+ targets, or 3+ if talented into blindside
- Mutilate/Ambush otherwise
golden loom
for deathstalker in m+ you also fok on single target until 3 stacks of "Unshakeable drive" -> then mutilate once -> fok
lusty kraken
for deathstalker in m+ you also fok on single target until 3 stacks of "Unshakea...
how much of a dps loss is to not do that anyway?
golden loom
no idea
balmy condor
1%
spare kayak
Fok on ST feels weird
ashen inlet
just dont do it then
spare kayak
Ye i know, just shared my feelings about it
cunning saffron
Yo Its deathstalker now better ?
balmy condor
Yo Its deathstalker now better ?
if you have to ask, no
if you were playing at a level were it was better you would know the answer if I'm being frank, it's pretty niche
spare kayak
What would be the best use for ds in terms of dungeons? Pit and?
balmy condor
maisara probably, but from the few people testing it so far it's not immediately obvious and really group dependant
like I was talking to someone doing 20's with a ret paladin
main bobcat
balmy condor
and we kinda landed on "if ret in group, deathstalker bad"
steel ridge
ret has serious funnel if they play execution sentence
main bobcat
They buffed aldratchi havoc again this reset
That spec when it was good also had unhinged funnel
steel ridge
yeah those can be a thing aswell, havoc has been under the radar the entire patch
devourer too strong
main bobcat
Yeah man who cafes if you do funnel when you have that does good aoe good st never dies most mobile dps has chaos brand and and and and and
What did I just type
Holy fuck
Goodbye
balmy condor
many words
main bobcat
Dude I woke up from the biggest headache ever and first thing I did was answer an email and open discord on phone
Not good
balmy condor
hopefully your email was more clear
main bobcat
🧘♂️
cunning needle
Yeye I'm clean as shit at corporate talk
Hello sir, please find the attached request. Can you kindly do the needful and return my requested information.
cunning needle
primal oasis
U guys don't use AI to answer mails? 
steel ridge
No actually i dont
cunning needle
neither
primal oasis
My bitch ass office job doesn't deserve my personal input
jovial cradle
I just dont respond
balmy condor
like a normal, functional adult
primal oasis
Depends on the job but for corporate daycare jobs I really wouldn't bother
steel ridge
i am under the impression that any of my clients with half a brain could notice and appreciates a "handwritten" email... furthering our bond and solidifying my position in this entire equation.
main bobcat
U guys don't use AI to answer mails? <:starege:923197272064426075>
Copilot answers every idiot for me 
primal oasis
Based same
steel ridge
if the email isnt important enough to warrant a personal response, i just delete it
jovial cradle
If i get an ai written email or message, i will give an ai response
Let the ai fall in love with each other
primal oasis
I usually write a fast, incoherent word salad then let ai optimize it
main bobcat
Yeh or you just have prewritten replies/followups only so many hey I reached out x time ago about y any update
primal oasis
Yeah I have those in copilot 
Like why write the same braindead response over and over
main bobcat
HELLO TEAM ANY UPDATE ON TICKET #76HG87332, IT'S BEEN ON HOLD FOR 3 DAYS NOW
Bro starege is a crazy emote
primal oasis
"Any updates regarding issue ...."
steel ridge
you guys are all so future man and AI something something... meanwhile my boomer ass:
techonologia
primal oasis
I mean my 58 year old dad uses AI for his job constantly
Gotta adapt
He's a senior software architect tho so he actually knows what he is doing and just uses Claude as a slave
main bobcat
Yo using a pc fan to stop the heat is crazy
Ngl meddling with my pc scares me
I replaced my gpu lately and had untangle so many cables
And everytime something clicked or snapped I pause for a sec in shock
It's not that hard but I happen to be a little coward
golden loom
The worst problem I had with my PC was that my CPU was fried (intel 14 series issue) so the process of sending that for RMA in a shitty lil box wrapped in a antistatic bag and bubblewrap was kinda scary
steel ridge
Yo using a pc fan to stop the heat is crazy
that little fucker is generating some serious airflow in my office man
primal oasis
Use an AIO
steel ridge
dont use an AIO
golden loom
then I got the new CPU -> rebuilt the PC and it wouldnt boot -> took out the CPU again, almost dropped it, almost got thermal paste all over the socket and then it booted
primal oasis
dont use an AIO
Surely it would cool you more than a single fan
steel ridge
nononononono
steel ridge
I replaced my gpu lately and had untangle so many cables
crazy times... having your own GPU is some luxury stuff nowadays
main bobcat
Well "lately" is like october
Got an amd gpu for 400€
My old 2060s was starting to not be very good
steel ridge
threw out my 3070 ,that i used for 3 years, a few weeks ago
steel ridge
FSR blows
primal oasis
If FSR the amd version of DLSS?
main bobcat
Still got a 5800x3d but to upgrade I need an am5 board and that means ddr5 ram and that means several hundred euro I simply cannot blow up rn
steel ridge
If FSR the amd version of DLSS?
its supposed to be, yes.
golden loom
I bought a I9 14900k and then learned 1 month later that they all 13/14s intel GPUs had a massive issue
main bobcat
Ye fsr is dlss for amd cards
steel ridge
Still got a 5800x3d but to upgrade I need an am5 board and that means ddr5 ram a...
ye rocking the 5800x3d aswell 😄
on a fucking 8 year old board
primal oasis
Still got a 5800x3d but to upgrade I need an am5 board and that means ddr5 ram a...
800 euro RAM take it or leave it
main bobcat
I got a b550 plus for free essentially the guy that built my pc just gave it to me
main bobcat
800 euro RAM take it or leave it
I will EXPLODE irl
steel ridge
i hope that board will not give in for the next 12 month
its due for a replacement... probably has like 30-40k hours on it
never had any part for that long, but its what its... in this economy
primal oasis
I will EXPLODE irl
static glacier
main bobcat
Look who decided to show up...
static glacier
At work fml
normal mist
snow lake
is assa doomed y'all?
vestal spindle
is assa doomed y'all?
nah
strange onyx
Swapping over to assa for L’ura today
What a joyful time. Thank god for the Deathstalker buffs.
normal mist
why would it be
He's using the wrong SD minmax build
dawn seal
hello
how does one play paladins
light blinded vanguard
3 target constant cleave
what we do
does anyone have a good pov suggestion i can try to watch
balmy condor
press CT to spread bleeds, then spam envenom
fok fok env fok fok env fok fok env until your keyboard breaks
dawn seal
ohh
so i jsut keep bleeds up on highest hp target
not venel basically and spread with the ct
and just fok instead of multilate
any big tip where i wanna spesifically cloak
i can look up llorgs i think
balmy condor
well not the highest HP
you maintain bleeds on everything
what you're hitting depends on which boss is being pulled out obviously
dawn seal
ohh
oke oke
do u know if i get hit by a shield can i still press
feint and such and my buttons i only killed it with a caster
balmy condor
pretty sure it works on everything yeh
sharp viper
paladins is the most dogshit council fight I've experienced in a decade
at least as melee, it's super chill as ranged dps
sharp viper
fair, only killed it on heroic as caster
dawn seal
i think micro movement is just not that good
i like when i have to move on a predictable pattern in x seconds
so i can plan around it
😭
vestal spindle
Poor Melees 😭
marsh fjord
every council fight is absolutele shit for melees
hunters last season was also shit
One day blizzard will see that melee players are the superior bunch and not cater to ranged, ranged have it so easy.
inland abyss
we still go FB in 20 and lower?
strange onyx
Paladins was fine, learn the dance. Rotating hammers take a bit to learn
strange onyx
we still go FB in 20 and lower?
Go for first tower instead
inland abyss
🙁
strange onyx
If you weren’t in melee ES then I agree it is turbo shit
static glacier
Look who decided to show up...
I got the cute pink straw 
strange onyx
DH was a worse fight tbh
marsh fjord
Yeah it was.
but paladins is still shit as a melee
Everyone council fight is just turbo overlapped with many abilities.
If it wasn't that shit for melee, why do most guilds only take 3/4 melee for it? because its shit for melee and they dont have a dispell.
marsh fjord
brother
im about to rico verhoeven you
Last week i was watching whispyr his stream and paladins fight came up. and he is like, hey wanna bench me. because the fight is so absolutely shit lmaooo
sharp viper
If it wasn't that shit for melee, why do most guilds only take 3/4 melee for it?...
i got a purple parse on that garbage fight and still got gapped by over 20k by a grey augvoker parse
meanwhile frostmages and hunters do double my damage
strange onyx
Last week i was watching whispyr his stream and paladins fight came up. and he i...
Is Whispyr the deciding factor?
Have you played the fight yourself?
marsh fjord
Have you played the fight yourself?
Yes and yes
Everyone says fight is shit except mastermind Skoop over here
strange onyx
What do you find bad about it? Other than not being in melee ES
glossy cape
so is there a new talent build for 18s+?
balmy condor
read pins pls
strange onyx
so is there a new talent build for 18s+?
If you gotta ask it is not for you
glossy cape
If you gotta ask it is not for you
insane ego
glossy cape
read pins pls
ty
strange onyx
insane ego
Just saving yourself from overthinking
golden loom
man im bored at work
just play world of warcraftington
main bobcat
I got the cute pink straw <:exs_uwu:1045134404231634974>
You're so bonita
humble verge
just play world of warcraftington
i odnt have any addons on the work pc bro
humble verge
i have wow on it yes
golden loom
time to level rogue #7
light quarry
pushweek ended before it even started
main bobcat
vestal spindle
this channel has to be dead since no one playing assassin
from 100 rogues theres at least 2 assassins 😭
vestal spindle
hmmm yeah true
light quarry
its so over
topaz cedar
in keys, for aoe refreshing garrote, if its empowered do you let it drop completely then reapply and respread? or do i just pandemic it and start spreading again
balmy condor
if the aoe is going to last a while, you shouldn't let it fully expire, since you'll have a lot of downtime on the next set of garrotes while you spread
so generally if you need to do a second set of bleeds, refresh it in pandemic and clip it
topaz cedar
ive also noticed from logs, that in some openers, there are rogues that tend to CT CT CT CT (i.e first pull in AA/MC) and not finish then send into CDs? is that just a preference thing to get more bleeds in less GCDs before sending CDs?
balmy condor
ive also noticed from logs, that in some openers, there are rogues that tend to ...
it's incorrect is what it is
but it's like a brainworm that existed because that was a theorized optimal rotation for like a week during beta
and people just had that brainworm feast on their skull noodles and now we're here
balmy condor
you've always overcapped combo points?
because of something that was theorized when the game wasn't even out yet
force overcapping combo points might be one of the most unintuitive and uncomfortable things to do idk
vestal spindle
dont let whispyr gaslight you
i know assa is so dead xD
humble verge
whispyr, did any writers get laid off wowhead or lose their freelance w/e
balmy condor
no
humble verge
only the director 
balmy condor
and some other staff in the parent company that no one had heard of, yes
very funny reddit thread though
kindred cobalt
Whispyr, i remember u had a plater mod or something, to change the nameplate visual to the target who had the DS mark, u still got it ?
topaz cedar
noted. ty for answering
drifting cloud
whispyr is an ai chatbot he cant get fired
balmy condor
"wowhead has been shit for a while and getting worse" in every thread imaginable
okay so site director gets fired
NOOOOOOOOOO THEY FIRED THE SITE DIRECTOR? THOSE HEARTLESS MONSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW COULD THEY!!!!!!!
balmy condor
Whispyr, i remember u had a plater mod or something, to change the nameplate vis...
that's not a thing anymore
kindred cobalt
that's not a thing anymore
thanks anyway ❤️
humble verge
"wowhead has been shit for a while and getting worse" in every thread imaginable...
idk wowhead kinda bums frfr
balmy condor
it just makes me chuckle to see reddit both somehow hating the direction wowhead has taken
but also hating if wowhead fires the people who directly made it go that direction
like, very normal company thing
strange onyx
I think you are doing a good job buddy
humble verge
i mean what direction, i just read the uh tomistus guys comments and open the class guides
balmy condor
company suck? board of directors kicks out CEO and management and does an org reshuffle
but in this case no matter what we do it sucks I guess
strange onyx
What’s your guys hope our next tier set?
balmy condor
god I hope it's more mastery
dire flume
those sharks work hard
strange onyx
How about shiv back?
golden loom
2 piece: Envenom does 10% more damage
4 piece: rupture does 10% more damage to targets affected by garrote
balmy condor
2 piece: Envenom does 10% more damage
4 piece: rupture does 10% more damage to ...
peak
balmy condor
How about shiv back?
just play deathstalker idk
strange onyx
2 piece: Everytime you envenom you get 2 combo points back.
4 piece: Your bleeds and poisons deal 25% more damage to targets above 80% health
strange onyx
just play deathstalker idk
I already am
balmy condor
my condolences
strange onyx
Haven’t tried it since beta
golden loom
I do imagine the tier sets next patch will have something to do with apex talents
strange onyx
Gonna run it in some keys today
golden loom
2piece could be like this bonus is doubled
normal mist
strange onyx
I do imagine the tier sets next patch will have something to do with apex talent...
I really liked the heroic talent tier sets
golden loom
yeah I mean the season 3 tier sets in tww were by far the best
golden loom
sorry I am not old enough to know what those were
normal mist
BRING BACK SEPSIS TOO
strange onyx
2 piece: 5% vers
4 piece: 5% crit
2 piece: You can now put on 1 additional lethal and non-lethal poison on your weapon
balmy condor
2 piece: You can now put on 1 additional lethal and non-lethal poison on your we...
wound poison damage increased by 500%
golden loom
rupture damage increased by 10% to targets afflicted by wound poison
strange onyx
4 piece: You may now equip a second off-hand weapon
balmy condor
unironically that might be the worst 4 piece conceived of in the last 15 min
strange onyx
Garrote damage increased by 250% to targets NOT afflicted by your rupture
normal mist
2 piece: garrote and rupture have a chance to proc sepsis on the target. Sepsis is a nature dot with a strong front damage. When sepsis ends, gain 25% bleed damage for x seconds;
4 piece: poison applications have a chance to give 1% haste or mastery or crit, stacking 15 times. Once all 3 buffs reach 15, gain 30% for X seconds and go back to 0
little tulip
make shiv good on deathstalker again
strange onyx
2 piece: garrote and rupture have a chance to proc sepsis on the target. Sepsis ...
You cooked
little tulip
increased combo point generation while shive active
strange onyx
We need some loa themed tier sets from the Loa island
golden loom
2 piece: Poisoned Knife damage increased by 20%
4 piece: Poisoned Knife is now a finishing move, gaining 500% increased damage and benefiting from all talents that affect Envenom, cooldown is increased to 12 seconds and minimum range is increased to 10 yards
marble wadi
Stop sign
unique nymph
Guys, what is deathstalker cook?
marble wadi
What stop sign
balmy condor
Guys, what is deathstalker cook?
read pins pls
marble wadi
read pins pls
Never
little tulip
thank you sudden demise
strange onyx
2 piece: Your finishing moves have 20% chance to invoke a random loa to bless you increasing your secondary stats by 75.
4 piece: You have been blessed by the loa of Misinformation. Every other loa blessing now is a 5% damage increase. They may stack and overlap, but not refresh
vestal spindle
pro tip:if your assassin just reroll sub or outlaw for better life
marble wadi
pro tip:if your assassin just reroll sub or outlaw for better life
Or just play better
vestal spindle
Or just play better
this
strange onyx
pro tip:if your assassin just reroll sub or outlaw for better life
Better to play assa with my comp for push
open mantle
assa is way more fun then sub imo
little tulip
yeah it feels like the changes they made in tww before the nerfs
vestal spindle
Better to play assa with my comp for push
what comp
little tulip
good but also no observable jank
marble wadi
assa is way more fun then sub imo
Well sometimes its fun to just boom shit in a burst and sit on your hands for 10-20s
open mantle
i like when i get food and just play with one hand while keying
balmy condor
pro tip:if your assassin just reroll sub or outlaw for better life
are you here just to hate on assa or what's your deal
balmy condor
vestal spindle
are you here just to hate on assa or what's your deal
noh no
strange onyx
are you here just to hate on assa or what's your deal
What’s my role in here? Assign my purpose
vestal spindle
insane classes tbh
balmy condor
What’s my role in here? Assign my purpose
you're free to be your own person pookie
marsh fjord
Why is my chat so blue
strange onyx
you're free to be your own person pookie
Amazing
vestal spindle
most ppl in assa channel stay on assa because its rlly fun
i should try it once then
lavish peak
Why is my chat so blue
It’s part of the most recent subtlety buffs you’ll get used to it
marsh fjord
open mantle
but telling ppl they should reroll because ‘’ it isnt meta ‘’ is sillu
strange onyx
Why is my chat so blue
I am too lazy to change my color
marble wadi
most ppl in assa channel stay on assa because its rlly fun
They are all fun ngl, i have about 80 dung runs on each spec this season
strange onyx
One day Whispyr will give me my own color
sharp viper
Why is my chat so blue
have some pink
normal mist
And green
marsh fjord
One day Whispyr will give me my own color
He will give you your color if you agree paladins is shit
strange onyx
I won’t lie for lying sake
marsh fjord
😂😂😂😂😂
strange onyx
Legit not a bad fight. Just don’t tie your shoe laces together and learn to dance
sharp viper
isn't grey when you get yeeted off the discord?
marsh fjord
isn't grey when you get yeeted off the discord?
I vouch for this 😂
strange onyx
You guys wanna get rid of me? 😔
dire flume
the silence is deafening
iron thorn
2 more pit rolls
and i'm done with gear
pretty much
final boss is getting accepted to a key tho
strange onyx
Need 1 more AA for PB
iron thorn
Need 1 more AA for PB
i got that quite fast luckily
humble verge
but apparently rogue is not good
what key
lavish peak
but apparently rogue is not good
Who says rogue isn’t good
iron thorn
what key <:garf:1320173032743899157>
pit 12
humble verge
just run full guildie team in a 12 spire and youre all doing 200+
cause the key takes 12 minutes
quiet star
but apparently rogue is not good
outlaw?
just saw one
in 12 just massacred everything
iron thorn
outlaw is peak fun
idk
i still am sad that you dont play around 100% adr uptime anymore
but its still very cool for keys
strange onyx
im playing outlaw for vanguard
I am just missing a sick sub log on it to be master of all rogue specs
iron thorn
this week in reclear exile was like "lets play the worst boss in existence for sub"
and still did 170k dps
i really don't wanna have to rekill that boss
iron thorn
but also do because i'm ashamed of my green parse
strange onyx
Nothing is farm before all bosses are dead
strange onyx
Playing suboptimal on reclear eats your progress time
iron thorn
thats why we're doing an extendo this week
strange onyx
i'm kinda hyped
Just aim good in p2, young acolyte
gray garnet
Hey guys im noob on rogue, is there a way to make a decent m+ build without crimson tempest?
quiet star
outlaw is peak fun
yeah, even used vault as rogue but stats are meh, still I think it's not that important
strange onyx
thats why we're doing an extendo this week
Do people kill Belo before Alleria these days?
subtle tundra
i'm kinda hyped
nothing to be hyped about
one of the worst bosses
ever
for melees
iron thorn
Do people kill Belo before Alleria these days?
RLE still says alleria first, so thats what we're doing
balmy condor
yeah, even used vault as rogue but stats are meh, still I think it's not that im...
fist
subtle tundra
i genuinely cant stand that boss
quiet star
fist <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
explain yourself (i'm to dumb in outlaw to understand)
balmy condor
I will fist you
blazing totem
I will fist you
little tulip
balmy condor
blazing totem
Whyspir
little tulip
i would rampage too tbh
blazing totem
are you a fury war perchance?
balmy condor
no
strange onyx
Alleria is a lot more tolerable now
strange onyx
nothing to be hyped about
Let the nephews have their hype
golden loom
time for the weekly pug hopefully this goes well !
little tulip
are you really whispyr though
quiet star
i can't even spell your name right 🙂
correct is fistspyr
narrow mauve
What happened to the sin channel?!
iron thorn
wallahi we finished
bold wigeon
any news about DS DPS on 20-21 keys?
balmy condor
What happened to the sin channel?!
idk, what happened to it
golden loom
wallahi we finished
bro has the entire craft workorder equipped
iron thorn
last upgrade i can get now (i think) is seat head and tier legs
strange onyx
idk, what happened to it
It got informative
strange onyx
Think I am now
iron thorn
kinda done with gearing now
strange onyx
Think I am bis now
iron thorn
blue numbers are sidegrades
and everything is blue
damn even seat helmet + tier pants are a downgrade now
thats lowkey crazy
golden loom
whoops surely that 2nd garrote did not overwrite imp garrote!!!!!!!!
finite gazelle
Anyone tested ds in 20+ keys? I’ve not had the chance yet to see the difference
marble wadi
Anyone tested ds in 20+ keys? I’ve not had the chance yet to see the difference
Just check the logs
Charrend and shindig tried it
real pike
whoops surely that 2nd garrote did not overwrite imp garrote!!!!!!!!
Feels so bad when you see the icon turn to normal gar just as you press the key
bold wigeon
Anyone tested ds in 20+ keys? I’ve not had the chance yet to see the difference
i asked this question 30 min ago – just silence
topaz cedar
wallahi we finished
what this addon
lavish peak
i asked this question 30 min ago – just silence
I was playing some keys with charrend on ds assa and his prio damage was really good. What kinda news specifically are you looking for about it?
coral ibex
its less overall for a bit more prio dam
strange onyx
i asked this question 30 min ago – just silence
You got answered, bucko
bold wigeon
I was playing some keys with charrend on ds assa and his prio damage was really ...
- or - percent of overall in high key(20+) compared to fatebound after last tuning
golden loom
Feels so bad when you see the icon turn to normal gar just as you press the key
atleast I fixed my vorasius and saladbar
