assassination

[balmy condor]

Draw some lines that show 5% crit gives 5% more crit

We are very normal around here

See a desmos graph and hit em with the UH ACKTUALLY

[latent kernel]

although, tbf this is per 1 cast on target counts, so technically at 3 targets its 0.3 gain per cast, but at 100 casts its 30CP extra so i guess it is more meaningful than i thought

[turbid yacht]

Alright, so in paladins, which is 3 target, and with soft capped crit chance (45%), what is the average amount of combo points we get from crimson tempest versus fan of knives, noting that crimson tempest gets seal fate (combo points per crit) but only fan of knives gets TWO combo points per crit, AND has 5% additional crit chance?

[latent kernel]

im not making any more graphs im getting clowned in here LMAO

[balmy condor]

Ct also gets 2 per crit

It’s a fatebound thing not a fok thing

[balmy condor]

Nah I’m part of this autism dump we in this together

[latent kernel]

i have more fun doing this shit than running keys anyways lmao

[balmy condor]

That’s not a difficult thing to beat

[turbid yacht]

Is that just CT being broken again?

[balmy condor]

I thought so

Ct is on like fucking everything

[strange onyx]

Evening nerds

[balmy condor]

Maybe it isn’t on deal fate though

Could’ve escaped that one

[turbid yacht]

Sorry, but I really was feeling it in our paladins prog this week

It's like, VERY noticeable how often I had to press CT twice versus once compared to FoK

per envenom

[balmy condor]

Yeh fok is a good button

[vital flicker]

Well I mean you don't get a combo point for every target hit you only get 1 guaranteed and then +2 for every crit, sometimes you hit FoK on 5 targets and get 1 combo point, and I think that 5% less chance of that happening is good

[royal lantern]

are you playing with the talent that gives FoK a higher crit chance?

[lavish hazel]

so much overthink

[strange onyx]

You are playing it wrong if it feels wrong

Just hit button, feel right, that’s good feelcraft

[balmy condor]

Based button pusher

[lavish hazel]

can we have a tldr what do i have to press now

[latent kernel]

it is good, i was just pointing out that the more impactful portion of the thrown precision talent is the poison app

[lavish hazel]

you guys have the big brain i dont have this in my head

[royal lantern]

abilitys

[balmy condor]

Ct until bleeds then fok, like always

[lavish hazel]

thx

[balmy condor]

We’re just arguing about the impact of a talent

[strange onyx]

Wait is this new tech?

[latent kernel]

poisoned knife, and then dump combo points on kidney shot only

[lavish hazel]

im coming here to know if DS wants as much crit as fb for next week

i need to try it out on some keys

[turbid yacht]

I'm just making it clear that I do understand now that this is the case

[strange onyx]

Send me a pin, me and Nstab can only read pins

[lavish hazel]

i dont read anything tbf i just press buttons

[worn geyser]

i played a few keys with it and it feels so energy starved, sim wants haste flask for me

[fallow canopy]

always fok?

[balmy condor]

Bout 100 less I have a video in like 30ish min, tldr is you have to sim your enchants and crafted stats technically, but you can get 90% of the way there just swapping to haste flask

[lavish hazel]

ill see this thx good sir

[strange onyx]

Love a good vid

[lavish hazel]

just want to know if i want to beg for luuras ring for my gm

[strange onyx]

Yoink it anyway, it’s called class fantasy

[fallow canopy]

get it with the bonus roll coins on the 1st try

that easy

[lavish hazel]

whyspir i got auto translate if french holy sh its so cursed LMFAO

[royal lantern]

i mean, you can literally sim that

[latent kernel]

i mean but this is assuming youd even swap to deathstalker, i saw pin that it was behind, are people talking about swapping for the funnel?

[royal lantern]

french whisp

[lavish hazel]

as i said im a golem i dont know how to sim

[chilly marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[worn geyser]

was my dungeon slice sim on DS but think i forgot to manually swap sim to haste flask so gg

[lavish hazel]

im really dumb about all of this

[strange onyx]

I believe in you my French friend

[lavish hazel]

you should not

[latent kernel]

i gotta just wait for the buff to drop and then hit a murlok.io to see what all the nerds are running

[lavish hazel]

i mean

i might be the nerd

if you are checking m+ rating

and im clueless so

[latent kernel]

murlok takes top 50 people i think so it can account for 1-2 clueless

[strange onyx]

Its all trickle down cluelessness

[lavish hazel]

okok nice

how can i remove this icon i dont play outlaw since df

im lost on this discord now

[strange onyx]

N, give me your dream m+ comp for assa

[lavish hazel]

dont play assa

if you want the true answer

[worn geyser]

assa real pov

[lavish hazel]

otherwise it might be bear monk heal warr fury elem assa or smthing like dat

or rsham / ww

i did somekeys with ww rsham and i smashed overall

[vital flicker]

Brew, RSham, Feral, Arms, Outlaw

[lavish hazel]

arms and assa its meh

and you pref bear instead of brew

as assa

[strange onyx]

Just need to know what to force the others to play when I am not playing main in m+

[lavish hazel]

maybe i can find the log wait

[strange onyx]

Didn’t know you knew how to link log, big up

[lavish hazel]

i dont find it it was depleted key

can i link a clip

wait no i know

i pumped my overall on this press but

yeah as you can see big overall

[worn geyser]

300k overall magister is mega

[lavish hazel]

i guess it was 270 after last boss or smthing

maybe 280 idk

[worn geyser]

still crazy work

[lavish hazel]

we didnt time it at 4 sec so no logs hehe

[balmy condor]

now that's what I call visual clarity

[lavish hazel]

there is nothing so see there

its ok to feelsgood about dmg no

i pay my subscription for this

[balmy condor]

yeah I just can't stand seeing all the numbers flying out

[lavish hazel]

ye

idk

[strange onyx]

Track that 17 393 hit

[lavish hazel]

track that 1m envenom on nexus no ?

[strange onyx]

Make it shake and play some music

And throw in a camera spin

[lavish hazel]

ye ok so i got my information for ds thx guys

have a gn

[balmy condor]

love you

[strange onyx]

Nw

Have a gn

See you in the wild

[lavish hazel]

ill come back to know if items from new raid works on mastery

dont spoil me if you have the answer

ohterwise ill never comeback

[balmy condor]

I have the answer but I will keep it a secret

[lavish hazel]

thx

cya

[balmy condor]

bye

[strange onyx]

We all know the answer right?

[lavish hazel]

wait how do i remove outlaw pins or idk how we can call it

[strange onyx]

Leave N

[balmy condor]

I gotchu, what flavor you want

[lavish hazel]

demise pls sir

thx a lot

[balmy condor]

oh sorry

I got rid of the blue

[lavish hazel]

can you remove me sub role

[strange onyx]

You close to L’ura kill Whispy?

[lavish hazel]

i hate this spec now

[strange onyx]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

no

[lavish hazel]

im here like im doing my grocerie YIKES

thx a lot good sir

[balmy condor]

second soaks p2

[strange onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/get-well-get-well-gif-13393267

[coral ibex]

tonight p3 smile

[balmy condor]

surely

[strange onyx]

Boss is quite easy

[balmy condor]

we have been getting rocked by roster boss last week or so

5 people called out on a random thursday

[jovial cradle]

I believe in whispyr to down lura and get a 99 parse AFFIRM🙏

[strange onyx]

Oof

[balmy condor]

very nice

[strange onyx]

Yeah, L’ura seems like a bad boss to do swaps on

[balmy condor]

now it's holiday and we have 2 more mias including a crystal grip

[strange onyx]

«My macro»

[balmy condor]

and then next week we're missing 3 more

yippie

[strange onyx]

Jesus

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

on tuesday we got DC chained as well

like 4 people DCing at different times

we lost like 10 pulls to DCs

[strange onyx]

Atleast you didn’t get hit by wowhead layoffs, right?

[balmy condor]

it's been fun

yeah the wowhead layoffs that reddit knows everything about

surely the good people of reddit wouldn't be.... making shit up

[strange onyx]

He layed them off 😔

[balmy condor]

it's true there were layoffs obviously

I talked about it earlier a bit

[strange onyx]

I can’t stand people who make stuff up

[coral ibex]

i have 4 more prog days on lura before i lose to the schedule boss

[balmy condor]

but it's funny to me that reddit shits on wowhead 24/7 and they're like wow it's all slop wow they don't have real writers anymore it's all AI, the site has gone to shit, wowhead guides are trash, can't believe anyone uses wowhead for more than the comments on the database

and then the site director gets fired and they all go WHAT?? THEY FIRED WHO???

HOW COULD THEY!

[strange onyx]

The class guides are great, the articles are not good. Then again maybe I am not the demographic for them

[balmy condor]

very likely

[jovial cradle]

And its ironic as the wowhead writers are more human than what is seemingly going on with blizzard’s balance changes, i refuse to believe balance changes arent AI now

[balmy condor]

I mean icyveins straight up just has an AI agent scraping reddit and posting articles

which is what people keep claiming wowhead does

and they're not fucking hiding it

[jovial cradle]

Thats just sad man

I mean redditors dont invest time looking at stuff, especially wow players that are also redditors

[balmy condor]

yes this is definitely a human

100%

[jovial cradle]

😭😭

[gritty laurel]

the worst ones i've found are ARPG redditors

[strange onyx]

Yo that’s my gf

[balmy condor]

right......

yes

incredibly normal

[jovial cradle]

Like dude if anyone read Porom’s post, how are u gonna say thats AI…😭

[strange onyx]

She goes to a different database, you don’t know her

[jovial cradle]

Whispyr did u see porom’s article?

[balmy condor]

we've fired writers specifically for using AI before

and yet wowhead is AI

I am reddit and me is smart

[jovial cradle]

😼

They should introduce wowhead gold and silver

[strange onyx]

Can I write for wowhead? I got great insight in stuff

[balmy condor]

of course, I look at all the content written by my loyal worker ants

poroms a G

love that guy

a bit abrasive, but he's a good lad

[coral ibex]

you'd be surprised how many people have been completely fried by ai and use it for everything including profile pics AND comments

[spice surge]

I mostly played diamond, suicune is way cooler than ho-oh

Lugia is pretty good though

I obviously dont mean diamond

[jovial cradle]

He is a g, that post is so frustrating tho because you can tell he’s pouring his heart out for the spec and then blizzard just does more AI balance changes zzz

[spice surge]

Because im dumb

[balmy condor]

yes, and the people that join a world of warcraft company to write news and their name is just "emma"

[spice surge]

Crystal

[balmy condor]

you know, a video game where no one goes by their real name

[fallow canopy]

Emma geppeti, she's italian good friend of mine

[balmy condor]

"Yeah I'm just emma"

[jovial cradle]

Uhm that’s a bold assumption, i am plungis irl and in game

😼

[balmy condor]

and they use em dashes everywhere

[strange onyx]

I used to raid with an Emma

[balmy condor]

like a very normal person

[jovial cradle]

Yeah the AI-signature

[dreamy dust]

I can't seem to locate it on Wowhead, so what poisons do you use?

[balmy condor]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[dreamy dust]

Thanks

[worn geyser]

i have a dk friend whos main is just their first and middle name put together kinda based ngl

[strange onyx]

!SD

😔

[fallow canopy]

Demise stonks on the floor

[strange onyx]

If u know u know

[fallow canopy]

I do not want to know

[worn geyser]

!shiv

[strange onyx]

!Skoop

Skoop is very cool

[fallow canopy]

Good bot(?

[jovial cradle]

I dont play sin so idk, but does anyone swap to wound in MT from 3rd to 4th boss?

[strange onyx]

Yeah

[jovial cradle]

Curious how bad wound is for the spec

[strange onyx]

If you wanna deplete

[jovial cradle]

Makes sense

[coral ibex]

catastrophically bad

[fallow canopy]

Very

[strange onyx]

Just use the mechanic

[jovial cradle]

I figured so

[strange onyx]

The ring makes it so it doesn’t heal

[jovial cradle]

I do it in law cuz instant is a joke for us :p

[strange onyx]

Splash them with the debuff ring

Gives them a massive heal absorb

Yw

[jovial cradle]

Unfortunately i dont always have that option

[strange onyx]

??

Use Dpoison then

[jovial cradle]

I play law

I was just curious how big of a dip wound is for sin

Cuz for law it doesnt matter at all which you take tbh

[worn geyser]

ds fok tech clutched up i almost thought wed have a regular st rotation

[spare kayak]

?

[plain thistle]

[storm forum]

thats fucked up

[worn geyser]

new whispyr video on deathstalker buffs and stuff, idk how linking rules work for videos but ye good video

[spare kayak]

Oh, I'll check it out

[buoyant herald]

HIYA

[plain thistle]

shaman cant raid for 3 days, guess I'm the shaman now, why do I keep gearing alts

[cerulean nest]

is there a Whispyr sheet lurking somewhere with latest sims/gear type shi

[chrome plume]

First mistake was letting your guild find out you can play a ranged spec

[iron thorn]

I stg I’d be happy if raid lead would have let me play my Aug

But no “you’re coming on rogue for the DR”

[balmy condor]

no, we don't do cringe like that

[cerulean nest]

Im old enough to remember one

[buoyant herald]

It’s done by his nemesis

[runic hinge]

me?

[haughty flicker]

!whispyr

[buoyant herald]

!tonynugz

Hmmm command mustn’t be working

[runic hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif

[buoyant herald]

when you talk shit on disc at midnight then see movement out the corner of your eye

[grave trail]

Is the mark sniping basically the same as when you had to mfd sniper with outlaw back in shadowlands?

[balmy condor]

yeh

[normal mist]

Not the same logic but yeah

[grave trail]

Kinda cringe but might still have some muscle memory left back when I played it with outlaw and a good bind

[normal mist]

You move it around more freely but the big big thing about it (7cp envenom DN) still requires you to consume the mark, and iirc it has a cd(?)

Need to double check on that

[grave trail]

Yeah i think 20 sec cd

[normal mist]

Mfd my beloved

Getting those sweet finishers back to back

[grave trail]

But I will try deathstalker the prio dmg might be huge and specially on boss fights where u can funnel + the extra defensiveness

[normal mist]

Yeah fair

[grave trail]

M+ that is

[novel dock]

if improved garrote is <6sec, is it ok to do normal garrote or do i wait till it almost expire?

[normal mist]

Expire

Otherwise you lose the improved one for a regular one

[novel dock]

aha thx!

[vital flicker]

I mean that ability was called Marked for Death this one is called Mark for Death, obviously it is very different even in name

[hazy sundial]

how do i sim whats best to upgrade with crests?

[balmy condor]

top gear

can press the little + on items

and pick upgrades

based on what you have the crests for

[hazy sundial]

right, but what about, lets say if i have 200 crests, to sim what is the best to spend crests on?

if i do + on items its gonna calculate all of the combined

Just do like this?

[balmy condor]

ye

the funniest thing about that is that those 3 items are exactly 200 crests

so you could just upgrade all 3

[hazy sundial]

i have 3 more items

gloves belt and a ring

both rings

but what i didnt expect is that neck and ring upgrades sim higher than shoulder/gloves upgrades

interesting

[ember mural]

!bislist

[rigid fable]

where should i use AA trinket?

[radiant aspen]

ds better

okay looks like my rogue will rest for while

time to play something eleseee

[novel dock]

!bislist

[balmy condor]

look what you fucking did

[keen raven]

@balmy condor

[ember mural]

i said that to tony too lmao

[keen raven]

ew what the fuk

[vital flicker]

ew what the FoK**

[visual sun]

I can feel whispyr’s plea in the vid rofl

[hazy sundial]

i need 540 myth crest to upgrade everything

kill me

[balmy condor]

that's only like

40 keys

[deep latch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9jocBpFW6jg23dfbRhu1CG

776 haste a bit high or fine? I tried simming so many combos

[balmy condor]

if it's simmin best then its best

[vale shore]

I have been playing deathstalker (just saw your video)

I like the big envenom crits 🙁

I like marking for death.... and then death marking

sobbing

[carmine seal]

how much Mastery do you want as Assass?

[balmy condor]

Less than crit, roughly the same as haste

[solar wyvern]

Is there a hypothetical minmax with DS to delay kingsbane by X gcds to get 2-3 ticks in 30% lingering darkness amp instead of the 10% finish the job amp i hope this isnt real buy im somewhat struggling to see where the flaw is

Outside of losing a cast on like a strict 4:15 boss fight

Like say u go DM, envenom, build envenom pbox kingsbane

Or

Pbox dm env build env kb to cover the pbox window and hit lingering

Also love the degen fok spam in st

Insane

[balmy condor]

technically yes, but it's not a noticeable gain

maybe I need to double check it but it wasn't a thing when I first checked

[solar wyvern]

I wonder if its more relevant in aoe with big spatters

But ye just a though with all our stacking dam

[balmy condor]

it's possible

I think if anything you would like box dm ct env kb

[storm forum]

I think box between dm and kb

[solar wyvern]

Idk the math on double rupture garrote ticks vs enhanced lingering envenoms

[balmy condor]

that sounds insanely cursed

you don't auto attack or are able to cast anything during box

you want to press your 2min cd and then just not do anything?

[solar wyvern]

Yes id actually like to take a break its real intense during dm

Let me solve a puzzle fast

[storm forum]

because it is the most cursed order imaginable, it is probably correct for DS

[dreamy dust]

Anyone know if you can use multiple bonus rolls in a single dungeon or just one per?

(like, one per run, not one ever in that dungeon.)

[fallow canopy]

One per run

[dreamy dust]

Okay, thanks

Unfortunate for my strategy of spending them all in one place but not the end of the world

WOuld need crests anyway

Lol

[balmy condor]

it's generally optimal to spend them all in one place

[dreamy dust]

Yep, maybe more accurate to say I can't spend them all at once

Lol

[golden loom]

cant wait to play deathstalker, have darkest night up then fan of knives 6 times in a row (not critting once) and then shiving for the 7th combo point

[balmy condor]

optimal

[marble wadi]

I dont see the issue

[burnt ember]

@balmy condor I like your point about adding exsanguinate into deathstalker… but like why don’t they just add the mark to mutilate? Like whenever you mutilate a new target it starts the mark rundown? You just cast a mutilate on your focus in AOE and if you cast it on something else early it just deletes the first mark and starts a new one.

I don’t see why that would be bad or hard

[balmy condor]

sure

that's fine

[golden loom]

why would mutilate get to mark swap when they added it to garrote and it doesnt get to do that

[balmy condor]

but that's also what we have with garrote

[jade abyss]

Make the mark a buff on us

[golden loom]

whispyr do u think deathstalker will be worth thinking about for dragons (I assume no chance for paladins)

[balmy condor]

why

[golden loom]

ye was just kinda curious on how its on 2 target cleave (this is cleave add with 2 bosses atm )

[severe meadow]

We got some bangers on there

Do NOT ask about the bottom one

[lusty kraken]

what the hell is this abomination, fan of knives in single target?

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-7202280865353280690

[balmy condor]

itsssssssssssss baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

fok in single target, the deathstalker classic

can never get rid of it apparently

[lusty kraken]

yes but you used fok when it procced

now it's the opposite

you use mutilate when you get a proc

like what

[balmy condor]

yeah isn't that so fun

subverting expectations of whatever

[lusty kraken]

subverting expectations of class design team being competent, yes

[flint siren]

More like assassinating expectations

[lusty kraken]

I legit do not understand why they had to ruin whatever they had in TWW

you legit had perfectly fine specs in TWW, such as frost DK or arcane mage

and all they had to do was build on top of it

instead they just fucked it all over

for no reason

like???

deathstalker was far from perfect but it made sense gameplay wise

they just had to fix the target swap issues

instead we get this abomination

[golden loom]

I like current assa more than war within, frost dk is the same, havoc is more fun now, arms warrior is better than war within, fury is maybe better?

war within deathstalker wasnt good design either

[lusty kraken]

no, but at least it somewhat made sense

you used mutilate in single target

sometimes you got procs and fok did more damage

you use fok

[golden loom]

thankfully fatebound still exists so you dont have to play ds if u dont want to

in warwithin if you wanted to do m+ you had to play DS

[lusty kraken]

at this point I am checked out of the season, I'm currently in the 12.1 PTR waiting room

[analog hedge]

why? cause fb is so bad on tww?

[golden loom]

It was like 20% behind in aoe

Even in season 3 when fatebound was better in raid, you still played ds in keys

[burnt ember]

Agree. They just need to make it less dumb with garotte, like not requiring stealth and being able to be re-applied. Blizzard seems incapable of making a good decision on this lmao.

[buoyant herald]

Burn it all down and start again

[burnt ember]

When it comes to broader assassination? No. I think ‘sin feels generally good rn. When it comes to changing up implacable and reworking deathstalker? 100% yes.

[golden loom]

Implacable is great

[buoyant herald]

Mostly death stalker, I don’t mind fate, it’s a bit boring but it works

[burnt ember]

I simply cannot agree. It is like a 1% gain and the gain is imperceptible… so it ends up feeling the same as when I contribute to my IRA

Like I don’t want to put money in my IRA, but it’s gonna pay off when I’m 70 or whatever.

[balmy condor]

Implacable as a concept is good, but it’s not impactful enough for sure

[burnt ember]

I don’t want to stop casting envenom, but if I don’t my parse will be 2% lower.

[burnt ember]

For sure, if it was a big ass buff that made me crit big or like go fast I would love it

[subtle tundra]

i wanna stop casting envenom

[golden loom]

even if the impact is low, I like it way more than just mindlessly spamming envenom like we did the whole of warwithin

[burnt ember]

We can agree on that, I just can’t get behind saying Quiznos is good because it’s better than Subway, y’know?

[subtle tundra]

the fucks a quiz

american fast food ah ok

ofc the american uses american only analogy in a public server

[burnt ember]

Okay well Google is free 😂

[strange onyx]

Rogue hero talents are so boring they should be called peasant talents

[blazing totem]

the idea behind Deathstalker is great, execution is horrible
but at the end of the day it's all just numbers regardless

[marble wadi]

Ye but them numbers are kinda offensive and ugly

[subtle tundra]

ahhhh fok in st is back

now we need to make CT spam a thing

someone find something

https://tenor.com/view/raiken-cat-hang-die-bitya-gif-26309780

[ebon cloud]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warm vortex]

Watching the new whispy video makes me think of how murder row boss 1 will be with mark

[buoyant herald]

thats the one that summons the lizard or whatever?

wyrm

whatever

[dire flume]

pet mana wyrm thats being used to transfer fel energy because the belves are worried about running out of mana from the sunwell yes

[marsh fjord]

How would you make it more impactful?

[analog field]

Having less energy so you gain more by activating it

[buoyant herald]

monkeys paw curls

[sharp viper]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lizard-lizard-lizard-button

[buoyant herald]

Inspired boss design fr fr

[ocean root]

Is it mandatory to always wait for implacable buff to fade out ehen it reaches 80 stacks? Or depends if you got/need energy gain ?

[blazing totem]

no reason to do it in aoe where you are swimming in energy

[balmy condor]

First we make room for damage from envenom/pooling:

• remove the 10% envenom increase on implacable 1
• nerf implacable 2 to 6%/12%
• nerf envenom duration to 5s flat when used with 5 or more cp (this doesn't actually affect uptime)
• make improved poison only apply during envenom, buff it to 10%, swap position with inspiring strike/poisoners drive
• buff rapid injection from 15/30 to 30/60, swap position with lethal dose
• buff poison bomb to increase its chance to proc by 1% for each envenom cast in envenom's buff (max 5)

we have removed 11.3% dps with the implacable nerfs, we offset it with 11.7% of buffs:

• rapid injection gains 5.5%
• imp poison/inspiring takes a point (razor wire), gains 1.7%
• poison bomb gains 4.5%

Now we make room for energy from envenom/pooling:

• nerf base regen from 10 to 7
• increase envenom energy cost to 50
• buff implacable energy gain by 400%

we have removed 1,600 energy, 1500 of which is recovered from the implacable change. Implacable is now 30% of the energy gained on the spec, and when it procs you're getting roughly 60 energy a second total (not counting blindside/thistle tea), meaning with a full implacable, you have enough energy to mut mut env mut mut env without your energy moving, this gives you 2 stacks, meaning we only need 3 more stacks of implacable to cap.

With the nerf to the base regen, you're bleeding roughly 30 energy per second after that if you spam every gcd, or you can understand it as a mut mut env losing you 90 energy in the process. Getting the extra 3 stacks would require 270 energy, which is not sustainable, you'd eat your entire energy bar spamming.

If you spread it out and clipping envenom, you're losing 90 energy from mut mut env for 3 seconds, then gaining 20x2 energy from the seconds you're waiting, putting you at a net loss of 50 per mut mut env instead of 90. By clipping you're able to get a maxed chain being at 150/250 instead. If you apply the clipping logic to the first 2 implacable stacks, you're gaining an additional 80 energy during that pooling, meaning you could chain from 70/250 if you played it perfectly.

hypothetically of course

[dire flume]

ok but where does sudden demise come in

[balmy condor]

it doesn't

[buoyant herald]

[marsh fjord]

Super good read! Thank you.

I would say send it to the devs, but we all know they won't listen anyway.

[blazing totem]

ok but where does exsang come in

[balmy condor]

issue is that the numbers I'm suggesting are far too high

[mortal crag]

What about bone spear

[marsh fjord]

Numbers can be tweaked.

[balmy condor]

well no

in this case they can't

[marsh fjord]

I mean, sure if you want to make the apex more impactful.

[balmy condor]

The rebuttal to all of this is “you made poison bomb a 10% talent, rapid injection is a 10% talent, and implacable is a third of the energy regen”

That’s not sustainable from like a game design standpoint

I did make things more impactful

[golden loom]

"what if someone doesnt want to take the apex"

[balmy condor]

And the pooling gain went from 1% to roughly 14% because playing it wrong means the spec actually collapses

So like

Job successful

But in order to do that I have warped the spec in unsalvageable ways

Similar to how amirdrassil for example warped the entire spec with how kingsbane was tuned

[golden loom]

Could they cook something up where each stack of implac gave increased envenom damage and increased energy cost (yeah I am making it into arcane blast)

[balmy condor]

They could do many things

I “fixed” it without adding anything new really

I added a modifier to poison bomb for more chaining value

But like, I didn’t delete or add a talent or anything

And the real answer to “how do they fix this” is frankly just a rework

[golden loom]

yeah its all numbers

[balmy condor]

The healthier/correct way to do this is to add more talents that incentivize the gameplay, not buff the energy regen from implacable by 400%

[dire flume]

we should get a button called "assassinate" on a 2 min cd and it one shots whoever you use it on otherwise we're not really assassinating anything

[analog hedge]

ure cooking here

[balmy condor]

But making new things is significantly more effort and I’m not a designer I’m just a stupid queer writing an essay about one of the least played specs in a video game at 4am on a Tuesday

So

I’m gonna leave the actual rework stuff to people that get paid to do that

[golden loom]

The spec could always be worse (like DS in mere hours)

[balmy condor]

Yippie

The response on my video was a resounding “fuck deathstalker I ain’t playin that”

So

Maybe someone who can do something about that will care

Probably not

But maybe

[golden loom]

its weird tho I am hoping for alleria neck from vault so I can do some DS sub experiments

but I dont wanna touch ds sin at all

[subtle tundra]

u ar gae

i have to gear my rouge soon

what bosses are deathstalker friendly?

[golden loom]

only takes like 30 minutes to get 290

[subtle tundra]

only takes a dick to make u gae

monk is 287 i think, pala is 288

next is rouge

!!!!!!!!

[golden loom]

tomorrow I get legs/gloves on warrior from my rolls and craft a ring on dh and dk and im done ! ! !

[dire flume]

have you tried another game

[golden loom]

I do close retail sometimes and open tbc classic

[oak ember]

Or having an interest in women

[golden loom]

[golden loom]

does that give ilvl

[runic hinge]

No

It makes your ilvl worse

Ask me how I know

[dire flume]

if you're happy you're happy

[oak ember]

No, but it could give you the motivation to do a key

[runic hinge]

I have a gf and I’m 285

[golden loom]

I hate keys!

[subtle tundra]

i only raid log

[oak ember]

What's all that ilvl for then

[golden loom]

I delve log

[subtle tundra]

i dont even have mythic puzzy b

x d

[balmy condor]

None in raid

[subtle tundra]

YOU ARE A PENIS

nah i think youre wrong

lura is deffo a deathstalker boss

[balmy condor]

If you really want to you could play it on salad and maybe alleria I guess

[subtle tundra]

i actually dont know what it does better

if it does anything better

[balmy condor]

But the orbs/blobs on those don’t live long enough

So

[golden loom]

I hate how the sin meta on saladbar is to play full aoe talents

[subtle tundra]

does it have better execute?

[balmy condor]

You don’t really get any funnel

[balmy condor]

Not really no

[subtle tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961448855700914176/1433956400186265713/togif.gif

[balmy condor]

It’s just funnel and slightly better aoe

[golden loom]

legit got mad when I opened backshotbots log and saw he played scent..

[balmy condor]

Yah well

If there’s adds, theres pad

And wcl didn’t remove any of the pad

So

[golden loom]

like the fight would be so good if it was just boss and the 2 big orbs

cause thats kinda interesting

but the small orbs....

they dont even fkin do anything

[balmy condor]

I think the fight is great, I just think the small orbs should get removed from logs

[subtle tundra]

yes blizzard keep making add slop bosses

[balmy condor]

Like if you really want to parse on salad, you have to purposefully sacrifice people in execute or just get like 4 carries

[subtle tundra]

enjoyable

!

[balmy condor]

Because the small orbs keep respawning

So you want to be as close to enrage as possible

And most kills these days skip like 2 orb respawns

So

[subtle tundra]

not like the DHs are holding collapsing stars and 1 shot all the adds on all the fights

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

and you get to do 1 gcd

and all the top parses play aoe stuff

and they dont have the DHs to kill them

or smth

idk

[balmy condor]

Yeh parsing is just degen this tier none of the adds got removed

[subtle tundra]

the game is over for me once prog is done

i am so unlucky though

[golden loom]

yeah had a pull in the pug I did this week on my dh where 5 dps were dead for super long and we wiped at like 6 min

[balmy condor]

You’re not done yet? Wthelly

[balmy condor]

Yeh you gain legit like 10k just by going to enrage

[subtle tundra]

🤨

[balmy condor]

Actively punished for being good at the game

[subtle tundra]

if next raid tier starts on the 18th of august

i come back from vacation on the 17th

[balmy condor]

Then we kiss?

Oh

[subtle tundra]

meow

[golden loom]

my dragons kill this week when I played sudden demise was also in a group without a shaman and with 4 dev dh's

[balmy condor]

Good meme

[golden loom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyBZFH6qckPgxmMY?fight=18&type=damage-done did 4% sudden demise damage

4 dh 4dk 4 druid giga group

[sharp viper]

absolutely bullshit, dragons and saladbar are pure pad fests

[balmy condor]

I could literally tell if I was parsing or not on alleria by how much damage I had going into first intermission

On our kill pull I looked down at meters and said “gg I’m parsing”

Got a 97

Legit nothing matters on that fight except the first 2 min

Very silly

[sharp viper]

Padcane mages love alleria

imagine them padding on wednesday with +5% aura

[golden loom]

I had a pretty decent p1 on alleria and then my 5min cd set was awful

so it couldve been very good

p1 looks so dumb tho lol

2nd pot execute cds popping off also..

[final star]

Saldahaar being a 6min fight on prog and it's now like 03:30

is very funny

[sharp viper]

we only got it to around 4 minutes

not going to see it again for some time though, going to extend for alleria prog

never heard our RL be so disappointed in us

[low silo]

Deathstalker time

[clear knoll]

I missed read death stalker for death mark 🫩

Is it worth swapping now or fb still better

[low silo]

FB is still fine

DS is just better prio damage lower overall in m+

[clear knoll]

I really never touched death stalker. Might have to go watch a video on it

[runic hinge]

@storm forum I knew the DS copers would be here before the patch was over

[eager solstice]

How does ds compare to fb in boss dmg?

[low silo]

Worse

[eager solstice]

It was low to begin with :/

[normal mist]

Funnel dmg good

No funnel dmg bad

[severe meadow]

I had a rank 30 or so parse and then my tank decided to not make the jump going into the last 10% or so

[royal lantern]

FoK in ST

everything is fine

[severe meadow]

DS is so cooked

[light quarry]

ok but hear me out, sudden demise on king

[radiant aspen]

u didnt pressed ct hard enough

[hollow escarp]

In ritual sites

[golden loom]

Real

[iron thorn]

Person we recruited for keys just alt f4, unfriended, left all servers etc while I was in the middle of organising a Chimaerus HC group for them

I’m slightly confused

[dire flume]

sorry i got shy

[coral ibex]

sometimes you realize ur in too deep and gotta split

[shy sorrel]

How big of a dps increase is it to restealth after every pack?

[spice surge]

Not very big

Dragging a mob along to the next pack to allow you to spread those bleeds onto the new pack is usually worth more dps (and makes the key go faster)

[coral ibex]

you should ask the other half of the question - how big of a dps decrease is it to drop combat for multiple seconds after every pack

[severe meadow]

You made them nervous

[iron thorn]

Too nice

So people get scared

Ggs

Like I do understand getting cold feet

But idk, first time something like this happens to me lol

[coral ibex]

any good p3 pulls last night? we're still struggling to get there at all @balmy condor

[iron thorn]

But funny thing is I rolled a 100 on the gaze and now my evoker has one

Yippie

[severe meadow]

It’d blow your mind to know the story of why we lost our tank in TWW

[iron thorn]

You can’t tease me like that jay

[spice spire]

He’s a tease all the time

[marsh fjord]

Blow you say?

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[spice spire]

[dire flume]

do tell

[spice spire]

He’s about to respond in 12 hours dw

[fallow canopy]

p1 factory? or are seeds having a rough time on p2?

[royal lantern]

p1 factory is real

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1507150262169505842/image.png?ex=6a16c94f&is=6a1577cf&hm=b6af67aa24eabf3dc9a8de3bb6d88a686b31cfa9ef7c3444c2bd425443131d77&

[fallow canopy]

with glaive change I assume prog is more consistent or lineal (not sure which word to use) now?

[royal lantern]

ahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaah

[plush isle]

nah

should still expect 60% of trys to wipe in p1

[fallow canopy]

https://imgur.com/mftGPmI

[spice spire]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HAUeFtVbwAAsTbB.gif

[fallow canopy]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HAUeFtVbwAAsTbB.gif

[iron thorn]

But hey only 60

Not 80%

[dire flume]

@ me when he does

[spice spire]

Yes ma’am

[unique nymph]

man

look at this

XD

dude knows nothing about elusiveness

[deep latch]

It’s death stalker day a time to tell my tank to bring funnel into boss!

[unique nymph]

my man is mentally ill i guess

[coral ibex]

yea you'd think so

seed holders still just getting blasted in all phases

dropping seeds into glaives during memory game etc

miserable

[pseudo crow]

How is Deathstalker looking like after this patch compared to FB?

[unique nymph]

gonna be played only in some dungeons

[fallow canopy]

Seed holders waiting room

[coral ibex]

[pseudo crow]

Man i was so ready for Deathstalker’s comeback

[coral ibex]

im only progging this for another week anyway so either we kill it or we don't

on 6/2 i am pulling dancing mad (ultimate) with my final fantasy static

[fallow canopy]

Wise words but rough

[light quarry]

i mean he could be correct

[unique nymph]

in what particular way

[leaden anvil]

Death stalker for sin looking good though

[runic hinge]

brain rot

[severe meadow]

Prio damage pog

The thing groups usually have too much of xd

[hazy sundial]

How fun is frost dk?
Im thinking leveling one for my guilds alt runs

[leaden anvil]

@hazy sundial honestly I like it more than unholy. Lots of burst

[golden loom]

ye its fun, way more fun than unholy 🙂

[hazy sundial]

Is it dopamine inducing

[leaden anvil]

@hazy sundial unholy feels like cardboard.

[golden loom]

yep its the click glowy buttons and hear crazy sound effects spec

so its very big

[leaden anvil]

^

[hazy sundial]

Me like

[golden loom]

sound and vfx design for frost dk is top top top tier

[turbid thistle]

does it make sense to pull those 4 ghouls into the first boss in PoS for funnel? some tanks say it dont matter, but i feel like it makes it way faster

[deep latch]

Ye cc the caster and you can funnel for like a min till cc breaks then all die passively

Pretty fun tbh

[pliant remnant]

Well, if the tank says it doesn't matter then clearly it doesn't matter

[rotund oak]

he's from silvermoon

so it makes sense

[unique nymph]

tank died to mobs on 3rd boss in WS

and then out of nowhere he mentions me

XD

while healer died 2 times to phial toss

that monk was healer

[rotund oak]

whatever he was

[royal lantern]

ayo

[rotund oak]

it speaks volumes of the capacity to process information

[rotund oak]

dont ayo me

[spice spire]

ayo?

[fallow canopy]

Ayo

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/view/fighter-boy-anime-guy-dangerous-anime-guy-angry-gender-eqality-anime-edition-gif-11041023255277609389

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1493628444733472941/piccolo-aura-piccolo-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[main plover]

im fucking around with deathstalker stuff, how exactly does unshakeable drive work? it seems to spend 2 stacks when i mutilate with 3

[warm vortex]

Ayo

[night delta]

supposedly that's normal behaviour

[main plover]

well as per usual it doesnt say so

so it can use 2 stacks max?

[rotund oak]

cant be angry to you,so full of hope and dreams :3

[night delta]

Honestly I don't know, I don't even understand why it's even better to let it stack in the first place

[warm vortex]

You a true homie if you know what this is from

[hazy sundial]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warm vortex]

Think it’s three

Idk I remember Whispyr saying you FoK in single target until 3 then mutilate to spend 2 or smth

[night delta]

like, when you get a stack that's it, the bonus damage is stored until you release it with mut

[warm vortex]

Cause the off hand also uses a stack so it consumes 2 each mutilate

[night delta]

how does it factor in FoK being somehow better dmg per energy than mut ? idk

maths says so I guess, but i'm clueless as to how

[fallow canopy]

i assume its better damage due to the other hero talents

[warm vortex]

No idea I don’t even play assassination I just watch Whispyr

[fallow canopy]

but unshakeable makes it so mutilate gets better with more drive stacks

[fallow canopy]

ctw and the other one i cant remember the name

[night delta]

I mean there's fundamentally something wrong and broken if dry FoK is a better button push in ST than dry Mut

it just shouldn't be

[fallow canopy]

oh 100%

[warm vortex]

welcome to assassination

[fallow canopy]

DS just being cringe

as usual

[runic hinge]

I can’t believe people are excited to play that cringe shit

Fok in st shiv to force to 7

Yikes

[night delta]

I'd be excited if there weren't so many degen things going on on it

doing big prio and 'uge funnel ?

fun

[warm vortex]

Blizzard wants you to play deathstalker

They want you to consume the slop

And they want you to hate it

[night delta]

everything else ? not fun

[fallow canopy]

variety is good but if I'm eating plain toast and the alternative is a steaming plate of doodoo

maybe I'll stick with the plain toast

[warm vortex]

Hey
It could be worse

At least you aren’t marskmasn

That spec genuinely had a lobotomy

Also

You can still just

Play fatebound

[grave nova]

Would it be bad to take the garrote silence talent?

[golden loom]

yes

[grave nova]

Idk how flexible ass talents really are

[warm vortex]

Depends on how good your legs are

[golden loom]

its also bad cause it doesnt get spread by crimson tempest

[night delta]

there are just too many "deal dmg" talents to diversify into utility

in the spec tree

[grave nova]

I dont miss kicks but it can help with my teams comp since we have a hunter

[warm vortex]

Not what I meant sidnfjjf

You asked about ass

Not Assa

[grave nova]

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[runic hinge]

yeah this is exactly the analogy for the hero talents LOL

[golden loom]

u would also have to vanish garrote in that situation

[grave nova]

Are there really any utility spells worth taking in 19+?

i strongly considered blackjack since we already have MD

[golden loom]

I mean yeah tricks is only personal protection anyways

so up to you

[night delta]

whoa I was just finishing Whispyr's last video, he's legit onto something with the idea of a bleed-focused DS

[spice surge]

It also buffs the hit by 150%, not 50%

Or well, 150% on the mainhand, then 100% on the offhand

Because 3 stacks when mainhand hits = 150% > then offhand hits and you have 2 stacks = 100% and you end up with 1 stack left

[main plover]

wtf is this

[grave nova]

Also i know what the sims technically say but ive swapped to sin for more prio damage for my comp. Bear ele bm hunter and mw, would deathstalker just simply be better for 19+?

or too early to say?

[night delta]

the most unintuitive thing I've ever seen in wow class design

[normal mist]

You lose a ton of AoE in favor for Funnel ST

Whispyr already did some maths

[main plover]

i showed a non rogue player the talent and every spell related to it

and then explained how it works

and they said "nah fuck that class"

[fleet whale]

Well back in Antorus during legion assassin briefly used FOK in ST... but that was quickly nerfed

[leaden anvil]

Man sin does so much damage in mythic+

[normal mist]

All 3 specs do

[fleet whale]

You know when I do delves and I see Valeera using these vampiric-like abilities, I"m like wow, a vampire-themed hero spec would be so much cooler than what we have now

[deep latch]

Yes because it consumes a stack per mh and oh swing. And mutilate does both.

[hazy sundial]

Do we stay on chimi the entire fight or do we swap to adds?

mythic

[jolly heath]

Stay

By the time you reach the adds, they are already dead

[night delta]

Tbf Valeera kinda has a specific background that enables it

being formerly dreadlord-posessed and all

[hazy sundial]

What about the big one?

[night delta]

depends on if your group struggles or not I would assume

if downstairs group nuke it to kingdom come, you might be able to swap on it before your burst comes in

usually I ask to be in 2nd rotation to not deal with these ethical issues

[grave nova]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[night delta]

by the time 2nd deathmark comes back, upstairs fellas already started chunking the big guy and you're not quite leaving dowstairs phase yet anyway, so I can full send on boss with peace of mind

[grave nova]

why do we not press garrote/rupture again after deathmark?

it doubles poisons

[night delta]

you mean bleeds ?

[grave nova]

yeah

[night delta]

Deathmark already duplicates ongoing garrote and rupture

[grave nova]

oh so whatever is already on the target it starts doubling?

i assumed it only doubles what is put on after mark

[night delta]

well garrote and rupture specifically, but yes

no need to reapply

[spice surge]

It doesnt double bleeds anymore

It makes bleeds do 100% more damage

[leaden anvil]

How does ds feel?

[night delta]

yeah technically not the same

doesn't double the energy

[warm vortex]

@runic hinge

Found your alt

[royal lantern]

tbf

they just recolored generic Venthyr Orbs for the heal orbs

and gave her the Old Smokebomb

before DH stole it from Rogue

[hollow escarp]

They also stole Metamorphosis from warlocks

[grave nova]

why are people taking leech over avoidance? Am i missing something for this spec?

is leech just better since sin is uncapped?

[spice surge]

Avoidance works on the same spells that Feint works on

[coral ibex]

nobody is "taking" leech over avoidance

nobody has choice of tertiaries other than MDI contestants

[grave nova]

enchants

[coral ibex]

i use speed enchants

[spice surge]

And generally in keys a lot of the most dangerous spells arent classed as AoE, thus your avoidance will not do anything against it

[coral ibex]

can't relate

[spice surge]

And you are generally fine whenever feint works already

[vital flicker]

I feel like avoidance is an overrated tertiary stat, especially with feint in the game

[royal lantern]

in midnight they went a bit away from the "you go from 100% to 20% to 90% to 10% to 100% HP" dmg taken patterns

and instead tried to make dmg taken a bit more consistent

so leech is not actually that bad on DPS now

[grave nova]

do bleeds proc leech?

[royal lantern]

all dmg does leech

[warm vortex]

Still think we areally should be able to buy a thing that adds tertiary stats to items

like from the vault

cause we can add sockets

idk wouild be cool

[royal lantern]

well

before midnight, leech was just ussules

and speed is speed

atleast avoidance did something

[warm vortex]

What about indestructible

[coral ibex]

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

[worn geyser]

viable, i have no g repairs on lura i am in poverty

[warm vortex]

Ok real talk

[worn geyser]

would kill for indestructable

[warm vortex]

The fucking repairs in this game are insane

Like ???

[royal lantern]

we have 50k guild repairs enabled for lura

and im paying for myself after like 90min

[fallow canopy]

[royal lantern]

i love daggers losing 23% durability in a 20sec pull

for some reason

[warm vortex]

It is proper tomfoolery at this point

[fallow canopy]

You can't really cheese deaths since the crystals blow your shit up

[worn geyser]

im gonna send my gm a invoice for the gold amount im owed after we kill

[warm vortex]

It was like DR BM last tier

[worn geyser]

140x430wipes

[warm vortex]

for some reason i'd lose like 40% bow durability every pull

or

not "no reason"

i know exactly why

but i was mega madge

[royal lantern]

like, the only thing keeping me afloat is the fact that i have weaponsmith maxed out and can use the enjdless repair hammer on my daggers

cus holy fuck

rogue daggers and prot warrior shields just break after 2-3 pulls

[warm vortex]

I mean

if it's really bad ig you could like

HS out and go to a vendor instead of the mount repairs

but that would be giga troll

Unless they changed it

[worn geyser]

my guild automatically sends a 40 second pull timer as soon as priest res goes off

[warm vortex]

i think mount repairs still cost more than vendor repairs

[warm vortex]

I remember one of our pallies pressing their HS instead of the mass rez once

was very funny

"Uh i accidentally hearthstoned instead of rez.."

old habits die hard idk

[rich lotus]

DS out cleaving fatebound on the dummies rn

[warm vortex]

oK

Fix idea for DS

how about you mark your allies

and it becomes a rogue healing hero tree

[storm forum]

stab the grimreaper away

[warm vortex]

Exactly

[marsh fjord]

Dont give blizzard ideas

[clear knoll]

Fan of heals

[warm vortex]

Would genuinly be more fun than current DS

[marsh fjord]

True

[terse night]

anyone know hjow to get garrote to display the timer in cdm

[marsh fjord]

DS is the reason why i went for DK this tier

[terse night]

?

[marsh fjord]

IF added to the CDM it doesnt show you the timer?

[terse night]

it only showi sthe cd of 6 seconds

[marsh fjord]

Show me your CDM

Like the main group

[spice surge]

Well thats improved garrote

But garrote isnt under buffs, its in the other section. It should be enabled by default

[marsh fjord]

Yeah thats why i ask show the main group

[spice surge]

Ye and if you press garrote on something, the timer shows up on the icon yes?

[terse night]

yea oinly 6 seconds

[spice surge]

But also numbers meant your settings, not how it looks

[terse night]

but under essential cds i have garrote there not improved

so its confusing wehy it doesnt display the 24 seconds

[weary stump]

Fix idea two for DS, you get a damage amp if you browse Facebook pages of people from your high school class

Get it, because you'd be a stalker

[leaden anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408

[spice surge]

Probably try to just remake your cdm profile

As in create a new one, not a copy

[royal lantern]

during sylvanas prog in SL

our warrior suddenly said mid pull

"i disenchanted my weapon"

[warm vortex]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Bro first the guy playing HS during fyrakk prog

[royal lantern]

yes

[warm vortex]

now this

what on earth is yourt guild

[royal lantern]

i love them

[marsh ferry]

Saw a clip of someone accidentally disenchanting their trinket on Imperator

[royal lantern]

wait, leme find the HS clip again

its just so good

[warm vortex]

I know haha

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1283044334182076426/The_Salt_Incident.mp4?ex=6a16e627&is=6a1594a7&hm=2b0fcbb7242ca0d0bf0456cef1c09923ca85bd65218439cefaf3e49c422aa13e&

[warm vortex]

It's why i remember

[royal lantern]

there you go

[warm vortex]

how do you accidetnally fucking disenchant

like

how

[royal lantern]

@coral ibex this is serious mythic raiding btw

[warm vortex]

He was playing plague dk aswell

what a rat

[fresh kelp]

I saw a clip from this tier of someone disenchanting their trinket mid m+ dungeon

[royal lantern]

he was streaming it for guildmates

thats the best part

and the RL was in the stream

looked at it

[warm vortex]

How do you disenchant

An item

mid fight

Like how

[royal lantern]

and just sees that his MW healer plays hearthstone midfight

[fresh kelp]

ok so

for a trinket

[latent kernel]

@balmy condor just watched your video, the flying dagger point on the DS talent tree is only so you can use FOK in single target right? how much do you actually gain in single target to offset not picking up secondary or fatal in aoe? like over the course of an entire key is it really that much better?

[fresh kelp]

if you have a disenchant keybind

and then press your trinket keybind right after

it in fact

[royal lantern]

iirc it was during the downtime of the fight

[warm vortex]

Smartest monk

[fresh kelp]

DEs

[royal lantern]

he disenchanted random gear

and then

[warm vortex]

So the what

6 minutes of p2

[fallow canopy]

Lmao wtf

[warm vortex]

idk i didn't play slv

but i t seemed miserable

[royal lantern]

SOMEHOW

managed to disenchant his equipped weapon

[royal lantern]

the best thing is that our RL isnt even really angry

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alarm-gem-alert-chud-redditor-gem-gif-6415505554061588689

[radiant aspen]

ar ds changes live

?

[royal lantern]

its this combination of shock and dissapointment

[fallow canopy]

I mean atp its just shock yea

Literally what the helly

[deep latch]

Where my DS degens at?

[warm vortex]

Btw anyone here played terraria infernum at all
fucking hooked on it

[radiant aspen]

Fu ck DS

[warm vortex]

Trickster assassination is what i play

Idk what you all are doiong

[royal lantern]

the worst part: he lost his HS match in the end

[warm vortex]

Tbf

His primus did just get removed