and then it makes ur 2mins on a longer cd for the rest of the dung
#assassination
dim yacht
really? does it not live quite a while if you do that
keen raven
i mean its only ignition cast
u just feint/evasion or cloak
i usually cloak the ball phase with ignition cast
only scary part
dim yacht
yeah, thats what i do too. its not me im worried about
dps and healer both died to it lol
keen raven
bad healer then :p
dim yacht
healer death was to wyrm explosions + ignition, dps was knockback + ignition
after refuel
unique nymph
how do these buffs feel boys? is deathstalker gonna be played?
keen raven
how do these buffs feel boys? is deathstalker gonna be played?
ill be testin next week
dim yacht
shouldnt be getting another knockback/ignition
will try sending hard on boss at start and see how it goes 👍 ty for advice
keen raven
sry daddy @balmy condor i just wana clarify #s to make sure i understand
lets say i do 10m to a prio target in a 5 pack cleave
youre saying next week deathstalker would do 13m in a 5 target to the 1 prio target
keen raven
will try sending hard on boss at start and see how it goes 👍 ty for advice
ofc hopeu beat my dmg
asa feels amazing in mt
pliant falcon
Are the new deathstalker changes relevant in any capacity? Ig its still a dead hero talent choice
dim yacht
my personal issue is nobody ever wants to take the energy crystals
then i take the one in hallway for the big hero pull
then get holy fire + glaive and have to cloak
and bye bye crystal buff lol
every key i ask if someone wants to take em, someone says they will and then they never do
i ping it, gets ignored
keen raven
i mean its only 10%
isnt the biggest deal
i dont even try to get it im worried ab gettin 1 shot XD
dim yacht
i just wish someone would grab it T_T
more dps = less time having to heal through 2 spellbreakers
dim yacht
if you pick it up before sending CDs? i dunno about that
keen raven
i actually dont cd that pack
dim yacht
really? you just send it on pack before? i find usually i have all cds on the pack before it, and i send KB and hold deathmark for the next to burn it faster
keen raven
yea i send it onm the trio mobs because it takes so long
and it makes ur 2min align at start/end of kill for the future bosses
which for me i find more important
i do 100k on 2nd boss and did 270k on 3rd
dim yacht
yeah i could see that
keen raven
just depends on ur group/what u need
dim yacht
yeah for sure
normal mist
no
marsh fjord
Do we finally see the return of deathstalker?
Bruv you sound happy about that
are you mentally okay?
😄
viscid spear
Am I reading Whispyr's pin right, Deathstalker still isn't beating Fatebound?
keen raven
i just wana know if our prio dam actually goes up 30%
like if we do 10m to a prio targ do we do 13m now
dire flume
iron thorn
Am I reading Whispyr's pin right, Deathstalker still isn't beating Fatebound?
<:...
yes, we're safe
still 2% behind in ST
the 1% in keys is scary tho
because funnel might just be better in some places
spare kayak
What's the usual stat distribution for m+ for ds?
iron thorn
doesnt change much from what i heard yday
spare kayak
Maybe a tad less haste I'd guess
iron thorn
maybe mastery bit better than haste, but still crit >>>>>
solar wyvern
i just wana know if our prio dam actually goes up 30%
Its incredibly large, people think the st is bad but u just dont play ds in st keys
royal hazel
!crests
rugged adder
probably asked but, will deathstalker be playable now after the buffs?
solar wyvern
I can see ds in pit maisara
I think magi is probs just fb or outlaw tho
Too many small pulls in the first half
trim cairn
is it a deathstalker angle
Might be for the Sudden Demise build actually
open mantle
i rlly wish it was a huge buff because for sub its a crazy buff for raid
best single build now
sharp viper
Deathstalker usef to be very problematic in raif fights with swaps
People arr rightfully traumatized
spare kayak
i rlly wish it was a huge buff because for sub its a crazy buff for raid
if you have 1100 haste ( 600 here)
dont have the lura+aleria haste jewelery tho
open mantle
just craft engi stuff get haste mastery neck if u have or ring
if u havent crafted
its rlly easy to switch and farm m+ stat haste gear
having guidon is also nice
spare kayak
guidon for assa? this would feel criminal
storm forum
does SD damage funnel with DS?
is there some insane cursed tech here for first pull/boss AA?
deep latch
Who's forcing DS on reset
frosty cedar
insane people
severe meadow
everyone (no one)
desert trout
Question about Thistle tea. Do I blow my charges as often as I get them? I usually save them all as a "oops I didn't manage my energy right " accident protection
severe meadow
Take it off your bar and not worry about it
storm forum
they don't give stats any more so we just let tea auto proc now
I think of them as badluck protection, sometimes you highroll with giga crits and sit on 2-3 stacks for a while, sometimes you need 2 charges to get a full 80 stack on apex
spice surge
i rlly wish it was a huge buff because for sub its a crazy buff for raid
Its a token/placebo buff for sub, it really does not matter
Deathstalker was better before by a fair margin, it is now better by a slightly bigger margin
desert trout
I think of them as badluck protection, sometimes you highroll with giga crits an...
Ok thanks. So my thinking was the norm
mortal linden
Hello! I'm playing Rogue for the first time. Wanted to play Assassination rogue cause poisons/vibe looks cool and my friend told me it's the more zug zug spec of the bunch (I main Fury Warrior, and Prot Paladin) and I'm wondering what I should be focusing on rotationally. I'm only level 14 but it hasn't really clicked for me what I should be doing rotationally.
Like when do I want to use Shiv? Do I use Garrote and then Rupture for opening attack? I know I'm really early in leveling so the gameplay of the spec hasn't actually opened up but I don't want to develop any rotational bad habits so I would love some clarity on what I should do!
golden loom
Hello! I'm playing Rogue for the first time. Wanted to play Assassination rogue ...
not really much going on at lvl 14 since you dont have the main finisher (envenom yet) - shiv is not used, you can open with garrote - the use mutilate to build combo points up to 5 and then rupture (this is a good habit to build because we always finish on 5+)
spark warren
(tbh I'm kinda glad it is? Deathstalker isn't ignored because its damage is bad, it's ignored because its core mechanic is inherently obnoxious as all goddamn hell and everyone hates the way it works ^^' They could give it +400% damage and I'd still not be sure I wanna deal with it >.>)
golden loom
Slice and dice is also automatically applied when casting envenom so before that I guess u need to press it yourself, but lvl 14 doesnt really have much in terms of retail gameplay 😄
golden loom
(tbh I'm kinda glad it is? Deathstalker isn't ignored because its damage is bad,...
you could tell people that they have to smash their hand with a hammer in the middle of the rotation and if it meant that you gained 0.5% dps people would do it, so deathstalker would be played if it was better
spark warren
... fair. Tho ngl after playing DS last season, I do not want to ever have to deal with it ever again for any reason, and I just don't care about the damage. xD
If that means I'd be "stuck" in +18s instead of +20s, so be it 🥲
storm forum
Hello! I'm playing Rogue for the first time. Wanted to play Assassination rogue ...
currently, shiv is only used a soothe effect, so don't use it rotationally right now (there is an edge case to use it rotationally once you get access to hero talents). Opener is correct, if you're trying to build good habbits, try to get ur bleeds up ASAP and maintain them as your highest priority.
golden loom
But Outlaw is much more Fury Warrior-esque if that is what you were looking for tbh
wispy bison
Sorry if this is a stupid question but do yall manually drop envenom buff or do you wait it out ?
golden loom
manually as in cancel auraing or something?
wispy bison
yea
golden loom
nah you wait it out
wispy bison
okay! thanks
quaint dragon
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
agile wedge
reading the pin, does this mean ds is still worse than fb in most raid situations we currently have? 😄
stuck lodge
according to the sims, yes
balmy condor
sry daddy <@167090536602140682> i just wana clarify #s to make sure i understand...
That is in fact 30%
night delta
People, I was unaware you could bonus roll into a set token, that's where my Chimaerus went this week 
sharp viper
can someone post me the rogue stand in city like npc copy pasta please?
shy creek
/raid Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC (刪除此類)
potent oracle
are keys the best way to grind for gear on an alt after reaching 260 ilvl
coral ibex
yes bonus rolls
sharp viper
/raid Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring ...
ty
lilac saffron
I have a question, is live-reading the combatlog to provide analytics against the TOS? I am really into this idea of creating a script that tells me how many adds still need bleeds
spice surge
I dont think its available during combat
lilac saffron
ah it is not live-written?
static glacier
Tf boss you having 4 min kills on
runic hinge
Rogue do low damage (盗贼伤害垃圾). same parse as arms war (评分红色，和武器战一样). Bring shame to guild (公会之耻). M+ instant decline (大秘秒拒). I stand in city like NPC (刪除此類) @spice spire
vapid gorge
is deathstalker back?
runic hinge
Checka da pins-a
vestal wren
is deathstalker back?
on subtlety it is
hazy sundial
Do diminishing returns points for secondary stats rise as major patches come out or are they stay the same the whole expansion?
buoyant herald
They stay the same
waxen oyster
Kind of why you saw some specs in s3 last expac go for stats they normally don't.
Purely because hitting drs on their better ones
buoyant herald
Yeah I remember late s3 i was equipping a quite bit of vers gear
potent oracle
why is my dmg so shite in M+ pulls but on the bosses im top dps
wowanalyzer says im doing fine 
bronze panther
why is my dmg so shite in M+ pulls but on the bosses im top dps
Probably low keys
marsh fjord
why is my dmg so shite in M+ pulls but on the bosses im top dps
For a big mac record your keys and i will tell you if you're doing shit or not
potent oracle
was a 10
quaint nimbus
on subtlety it is
Rl wants me sub for the rest of the tier (currently on m alleria) but i rly dont want to run ds
Is fb sin comparable for st
potent oracle
is that still considered low
marsh fjord
is that still considered low
yeah
10s were done at first day of the season
No offense ofcourse
no flame
bronze panther
is that still considered low
Mobs die too fast
potent oracle
pain
vestal wren
Rl wants me sub for the rest of the tier (currently on m alleria) but i rly dont...
fair, think its most of the time best to play what you are comfortable with
quaint nimbus
fair, think its most of the time best to play what you are comfortable with
I agree, but rl is pushing me towards sub hard
I was hoping for a credible screenshot to get him to leave me alone lol
quaint nimbus
I’ll just tell him I’m not doing it and to sit me if he hates me on sin
vestal wren
damage should not be a concern
so idk, people over-optimize for not noticable diffrences
quaint nimbus
Ye
Idk why he wants me on sub so bad
We’re not even a t500 guild
marsh fjord
Massive red flag btw
quaint nimbus
If anything we’ll most likely be in race to world last
marsh fjord
if he wants to force you on a spec
I bet right now if i knew your guild name
there are people grey logging
and doing worse
vestal wren
tbh people are stupid like this w/e the world rank
marsh fjord
tbh people are stupid like this w/e the world rank
super stupid yes
vestal wren
expectations set by players is often just way above resonable amounts
quaint nimbus
Massive red flag btw
Dont have much choice unfortunately
It’s my first ce tier and i dont have mythic logs aside from this season so im just gonna deal with it 
vestal wren
the best showcase is m+
marsh fjord
Dont have much choice unfortunately
It’s my first ce tier and i dont have mythi...
Yeah i was in the same position as you last tier.
bronze panther
I agree, but rl is pushing me towards sub hard
I was hoping for a credible scre...
Tell rl to touch grass and get some
marsh fjord
I know how you feel.
quaint nimbus
Ya i stopped pugging m+ ages ago
It’s been a peaceful life
royal lantern
Ye
Idk why he wants me on sub so bad
We’re not even a t500 guild
what boss are you at rn?
quaint nimbus
what boss are you at rn?
M Alleria
royal lantern
cus like, unless you are close to killing lura
your guild is not even in the top800
quaint nimbus
Das what im sayin
marsh fjord
Everything above 200 WR should not care about what spec you are playing on what ever boss.
quaint nimbus
Eh fuck it
Either he sits me or i leave and take the tank with me
royal lantern
like, we killed beloren last week and where like
wr770 something
quaint nimbus
Everything above 200 WR should not care about what spec you are playing on what ...
I am well aware but unfortunately it does not seem that my leadership is
thorn thorn
If you are struggling to clear M crown at this point in the season the RL needs to realize that you playing assa instead of sub is not the reason you wont clear it
plain edge
Eh fuck it
Either he sits me or i leave and take the tank with me <:garf:1320173...
W mentality
vestal wren
like, we killed beloren last week and where like
wr770 something
laura date unlocked
marsh fjord
I am well aware but unfortunately it does not seem that my leadership is
I was in a guild and they said to me.
Learn sub or get benched. and i refused to learn.
thorn thorn
Quite shrimple
quaint nimbus
🦐
royal lantern
like
quaint nimbus
I was in a guild and they said to me.
Learn sub or get benched. and i refused ...
I’m fine with playing sub when i have to as long as it’s not a miserable experience
The return of ds has made me reach that threshold
royal lantern
tell him to show you why your spec choice is the reason the boss is not dying
giving you logs or smth
marsh fjord
I’m fine with playing sub when i have to as long as it’s not a miserable experie...
yeah DS sucks
royal lantern
and not the warrior that plays floor pov 2x each pull
quaint nimbus
tell him to show you why your spec choice is the reason the boss is not dying
Too much effort
It’s a video game and I’ve got too much irl shit going on to waste my time and energy giving a guy online a five paragraph mla format essay on how comp doesnt matter atp
marsh fjord
When a raid leader tells me to play a different spec i just show him deaths after 2 and i'm always 100% alive after 2 and it just shuts people up.
quaint nimbus
It eez what it eez
Im rolling up on sin next raid night and if he gets pissed idc
I’ll link him my first message and tell him to scroll through the convo if he rly wants an explanation
thorn thorn
Too much effort
It’s a video game and I’ve got too much irl shit going on to was...
Its not about being efficient its about being right
Name a more iconic duo than Raidleads and being dumb as fuck
It doesnt exist
quaint nimbus
It’s bc smart ppl know that being leadership in a video game is beans
royal lantern
Name a more iconic duo than Raidleads and being dumb as fuck
mages and yelling "blizz hates us" when they are not a SSSS+ tier class for half a month?
quaint nimbus
This is why I can never leave Ravenholt
I love you guys
thorn thorn
mages and yelling "blizz hates us" when they are not a SSSS+ tier class for half...
go to WCL and look at damage statistics for midnight falls at the 95th percentile
You will see something really funny
fallow canopy
send him to us in this discord
Evil numbers ragebaiting for a good cause
quaint nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/e...
Ooh new cat gif, ty
marsh fjord
Evil numbers ragebaiting for a good cause
Yes!
thorn thorn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/e...
live footage of whispyr installing the brainchip
royal lantern
live footage of whispyr installing the brainchip
thorn thorn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/124169701881282560/1507478277030285464/RD...
did you see it
marsh fjord
live footage of whispyr installing the brainchip
Live footage of whispyr telling me how to sudden demise log for padding
marsh fjord
HAHAHAHAHA
when i found that one for the first time
i laughed so hard
league of legends man
royal lantern
what playing league does to a mf
marsh fjord
League bring something out in me that i do not wish on peoplee
i got 7 accounts banned
thorn thorn
toxic numbers
marsh fjord
Well i didnt say really crazy shit or something but i did call people dumb or stupid
quaint nimbus
The guy prying the bottle out of his hand is frying me oh my god 
lone pasture
hello fellow yellow men
thorn thorn
thorn thorn
hello fellow yellow men
lone pasture
rogue is yellow
marsh fjord
rogue is yellow
No
lone pasture
piss color
quaint nimbus
hello fellow yellow men
Sir the yellow gamers are over here #outlaw
lone pasture
so ur a dk?
chilly herald
piss color
That's closer to priests than to rogue, unless you're dehydrated
potent oracle
have you guys managed top 5 dps in your raids with your guilds
quaint nimbus
Yerp
potent oracle
inspirational
lone pasture
That's closer to priests than to rogue, unless you're dehydrated
I havnt drank water in 15 years
honest comet
Holy shit, I've unknowingly been repping outlaw and I despise that shit
All good, fixed now 😅
tawny rapids
does anyone know why on the second log for Assa in Vorasius, hes using shiv often?
runic hinge
link it, i gotta see this shit
stuck lodge
Without looking my guess would be to cheaply go from 4 cp to 5
which is an important breakpoint
balmy condor
timing wise it looks like kb muscle memory
balmy condor
Using it to go from 4cp to 5cp would be crazy though
I hope that’s not what he’s doing
stuck lodge
Yeah, I wondered if that was ever a good use, sometimes you are energy starved and your mut/fok only gets you to 4
stuck lodge
isn't it fairly cheap with the talent though? Something like 15 energy or whatever
balmy condor
Yeah cheap and zero damage
stuck lodge
Sure, but might let you push into the 80 stack of implac rather than dropping it
stuck lodge
Could be very wrong, just a thought I had
balmy condor
If you can’t get to 80 you just drop that’s fine
stuck lodge
It would also let you chain exactly 1 more envenom in this hypothetical situation
balmy condor
On Vorasius, right
runic hinge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014354006270808144/1240325651664343142/AssassinationShiv.gif
balmy condor
Think about it like this right
On deathstalker, it’s 0.3% to shiv from 6cp to 7cp, if you have 3 or less targets, if you have a darkest night
radiant otter
he only casts it 3 times so its not exactly a lot
and it looks like he's trying to squeeze in a finisher before deathmark falls?
rancid anvil
I read earlier someone saying that deathstalker would be good for funnel. Is there even a fight in s1 raids that you'd take deathstalker over fatebound for this reason?
stuck lodge
Sure, so the dmg amp could be DM I guess
balmy condor
So if you know that your next envenom is going to crit, AND be giga amped, AND your mutilate was going to overcap cd guaranteed
stuck lodge
but yeah, its probably not like great
balmy condor
Then it’s 0.3%
radiant otter
or envenom falling off and low energy trying to keep buff up before his dm
balmy condor
So when would it ever be good on fatebound
stuck lodge
Idk, but the rank 2 guy used it 3 times more than me
balmy condor
Yeah and the rank 2 guy is an idiot for that
fallow canopy
radiant otter
the could be rank 1 guy
reef wagon
it's like the old saying "rank 2 is doodoo"
stuck lodge
Maybe if he pressed shiv more he would be rank 1
balmy condor
There is an objectively correct answer to this
That has already been looked into and theorized
radiant otter
shiv at 4 and low energy to prevent envenom buff downtime could certainly be a feelsgood way to use it even if it's not
balmy condor
This the shit that pisses me off about the game cause parses are actually just fucking clown shit
I have like 4 rank 1’s this season
Fucking why
I’m a dumbfuck
stuck lodge
It would definitely make me feel smart, even as I objectively lower my dps in doing so
strange wolf
10% skill 90% rng
balmy condor
There is no reason why I should have that many rank 1’s
strange wolf
but that 10% skill put you way ahead of most players
balmy condor
Yeh
But its second nature to assa rogues to just invent min-maxes that don’t exist
Such is life I guess
strange wolf
IMO everybody that can reach top like 90 parses all have the potential to reach rank 1 this tier cause of how bad the mechanic scaling is this tier
balmy condor
A tale as old as time
stuck lodge
We don't really have that many buttons or things to do
gotta hyper optimize ourselves into problems
balmy condor
Even when we did, people were just coming up with the silliest things
strange wolf
vorasius mechanics. ALR DID YOU GET LUCKY ON ADDS TIMER? YES HUGE
stuck lodge
getting adds first is cringe, all my homies get adds last
strange wolf
Honestly
balmy condor
I’ve spent time in my life telling someone that there is not a difference between
- mut
- Ambush
And - Ambush
- Mut
storm forum
I’ve spent time in my life telling someone that there is not a difference betwee...
what does this even mean?
balmy condor
Because he could not understand why it said mut first and I went “yeah you’re right, I should delete the ambush line” and he went fucking feral
Cause he was screaming about the sim losing 0.1% because the order on mut and ambush was wrong
strange wolf
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/95742563 my team is 5/9M and i am parsing decently tho i think
balmy condor
EVEN THOUGH IT CANT FUCKING CAST MUT IF IT HAS BLINDSIDE
ITS NOT POSSIBLE
“But it’s lower dps”
stuck lodge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/95742563 my team is 5/9M and i am pars...
This is 4/9M friend, but I wouldn't say you are a dogshit player, these are good parses mostly
strange wolf
This is 4/9M friend, but I wouldn't say you are a dogshit player, these are good...
had to play afflock for the kill on dragons since our lock wasnt available
stuck lodge
o7
strange wolf
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/40280402 the biggus f
stuck lodge
oof
radiant otter
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NGKH94Y1b2pBkQjv?fight=27&type=casts&source...
hes also playing ct no caustic and theyre funneling bugs on vorasius at 3:10 btw https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NGKH94Y1b2pBkQjv?fight=27&type=damage-done&start=9412147&end=9436747&view=events&source=435&ability=1247227
balmy condor
I was melee rl for 5 years can confirm
strange wolf
I was melee rl for 5 years can confirm
it is not fun
it makes me sad every time i also look at salladhar
cause my team praise be upon them. fuck up deeply on the fucking ccing of adds
royal lantern
I was melee rl for 5 years can confirm
"uhm, dont stand in stuff ranged"
light quarry
I’m a dumbfuck
u are our dumbfuck <3
thorn thorn
I’m a dumbfuck
the best
humble verge
I’m a dumbfuck
frosty cedar
if your not sending kingsbane on a blistercreep you dont get to talk about minmaxing
quick crow
why when i sim sin its like 40k less dps than sub
haughty flicker
me using deathmark on a blistercreep with the new talent so it jumps and procs suddem demise on two of them
humble verge
uh wtf
CAN ONLY HAVE 5 LAYOUTS
NAHHH
this is dogshit
so idk what the fuck is wrong with my ui now
plain thistle
fresh monolith
Which rogue spec is currently the go to for Season1 raids?
frosty cedar
assa
humble verge
gock
frosty cedar
sub players pay blizzard to get buff after buff every patch notes despite being picked way higher in raid
we dont need it
thorn thorn
@severe meadow
frosty cedar
ive actually just been stunlocked by your sentence, what does that even mean lmao
thorn thorn
fallow canopy
so idk what the fuck is wrong with my ui now
what kind of cooked addon are you using
thorn thorn
so idk what the fuck is wrong with my ui now
homie what the hell
humble verge
homie what the hell
nothing
burnt ember
Thoughts about the deathstalker buffs? Will it be enough to make it worth taking? (I hope not)
wild basin
check pinned note in this channel 
severe meadow
<@93553108243714048>
Hello pookie
upbeat sail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/895366813309870151/1395094090408005662/ca...
Do you have more of this
upbeat sail
Its peak
storm forum
i just played my priest for the first time in 2 weeks and i come here to get called a rat wtf
runic hinge
deserved tbh
haughty flicker
storm forum
thorn thorn
i just played my priest for the first time in 2 weeks and i come here to get cal...
Ok technically you cant blame me for this
I was just supplying the goods to a customer
eager solstice
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
terse warren
So Fatebound is still the way to goo after the new buffs to DS?
upbeat sail
seems like it yeah
rigid fable
Fatebound still better for m+?
rigid fable
So Fatebound is still the way to goo after the new buffs to DS?
oh
pine crest
whats the best spec for m+ ?
humble verge
they are all pretty good
clear knoll
do the void shards work on shields
jaunty sky
Dunno i only have 2 daggers
random gazelle
I finally maxed out all the gear I have. I think the only possible upgrades are magisters cloak and myth gaze?
sweet ledge
do we sim slice for m+
random gazelle
I'm not sure anyone does. Probably try 5 target patchwerk?
hollow river
do we sim slice for m+
yes
random gazelle
Oh, did they update slice?
hollow river
Oh, did they update slice?
no
dungeon slice has been supported for all 3 rogue specs for a long long time now
sweet ledge
thanks friend
random gazelle
Had no clue. That's great
rotund oak
I’m a dumbfuck
being dumb doesnt exclude having any.plus you got nice hair
thats infinite dps gains
worn geyser
yo andrew tate crypto !!
balmy condor
!ban @quiet ruin spam
static glacier
lmao
sage ore
Will DS be playable after buffs?
I'm currently starting doing +19 and it feels like prio dmg is everything
novel dock
patch note good?
coral pivot
You will lose AOE and ST damage for bigger prio damage
Whispyr made an excellent pinned message about it
coral pivot
There are no rogue nerfs
They buffed Deathstalker, but it is still worse than Fatebound in everything
Except, if there are a lot of mobs. You can absolutely annihilate a prio target
novel dock
oh right. just fatebound good
sage ore
Ye, feels like, not worth it
coral pivot
With the current tuning there might be some bosses or something that are crazy good
Vordaza in Maisara Caverns would go hard for Deathstalker
timid pollen
on plater nameplates how do i ignore the weapon poisons and some other buffs like internal bleeding? if needed i can switch to platynator or any othe one too since it's too bothersome to see every single debuff/dot on the enemy
checked several settings and none worked so far
balmy condor
you uninstall plater
the game removes those by default
but plater is shit
and brings them back
for unknown reasons
mortal crag
I like betterblizzard plates
limpid lava
do we get benefit from DH buff ?
balmy condor
???
limpid lava
i mean just poisens ?
balmy condor
the majority of your damage is envenom and caustic spatter are you high
balmy condor
important talent
lilac saffron
Does Dungeon Slice sim work good for sin rogue or should I be simming Patchwerk? Also, how much dmg am I leaving on the table if I do not use Improved Garrote?
lilac saffron
alright, since I got you here, maybe I could ask another question: So the sim says 140k DPS, per dungeon I am averaging around 110-120k, am I doing good or should I be sweating a bit more
balmy condor
dungeonslice is not an indicator of the damage you should be doing
too dependant on the key
lilac saffron
ah okay, so maybe better to check logs and see where I land?
balmy condor
I think best indicator is just how you're doing in relation to the people you're queuing with
lilac saffron
alright, I will keep that in mind, thx a lot
marsh fjord
alright, I will keep that in mind, thx a lot
Q with people that never done a key so your ego gets boosted
foggy fog
with class tuning coming on 27 is deathstalker looking like its going to be a thing?
marsh fjord
with class tuning coming on 27 is deathstalker looking like its going to be a th...
Pins
foggy fog
?
balmy condor
read the pins
buoyant herald
royal lantern
i dont read, explain in funny reaction gifs pls
foggy fog
how do i check pins
foggy fog
found it
balmy condor
and then go to pins
buoyant herald
i dont read, explain in funny reaction gifs pls
foggy fog
me rn ^
foggy fog
We are safe from playing deathstalker but its 30% better then fatebound?
buoyant herald
here we go
coral pivot
We are safe from playing deathstalker but its 30% better then fatebound?
Lower AOE and pure ST, big up on the funnel damage tho
foggy fog
so better for raid>?
coral pivot
So Vordaza in Maisara Caverns would get slaughtered
balmy condor
no, worse in raid
prio damage in aoe
deathstalker is funnel
you do not run into that situation in raid
coral pivot
Next season we get a Zul Myth Uldir style boss
And we get to play Deathstalker assa
Full zerg
balmy condor
the tldr is if you played deathstalker for some reason before the tuning, you are happy and will continue to play it
if you didn't play deathstalker, which you shouldn't have, then you still won't
and if you're like a giga m+ pusher then maybe you cope about the funnel in some instances that you should've realistically would've been coping about already
or you play sub, those guys love deathstalker
mortal crag
How dare you
balmy condor
where's your 1100 haste set sir
mortal crag
In the bin with puzzle box
balmy condor
damn, not having 1100 haste in sub deathstalker era
didn't realize it was fucking casual hour in ravenholdt
unreal
mortal crag
6% ain’t enough to get me to learn nuthn
balmy condor
honestly
that's based
more people need to think like that
instead of chasing the 0.01%
respect that
sage cosmos
Or try it out and see if the playstyle of deathstalker is more fun to play for you and enjoy the video game your way unlike the majority of people 
balmy condor
if I told a new rogue to try deathstalker I think they would uninstall the game
mortal crag
It’s a big investment for something that didn’t play
Plus it’s not good for 80% of the content I do so
It’s kinda not worth bothering with for me
rotund oak
the right mindset^^
balmy condor
genuinely trying to think of something more universally hated than deathstalker
and kinda coming up short
exsang?
mover havoc?
mortal crag
I also feel trying to learn to switch between the two styles of dance will eat into any 6% gain i could make
rotund oak
mover havoc?
irrelevant to wow but prolly that fermented swedish fish thingy,ppl smell it and vommit
practically biochemical warfare
balmy condor
yeah I mean out of wow you can score some pretty universal hatred
balmy condor
don't think anyone is sitting there like "yeah you know the working conditions of cocoa plantations is actually great I love it"
sage cosmos
But if somebody asks genuinely if something is viable and doesn't know how to navigate to pins, why shoot them down instead of encouraging them to explore it?
balmy condor
we didn't?
nova dome
exsang?
it was really funny for the first month or so of legion where it was 400% faster though lmao
balmy condor
yeh
I think the main problem honestly was the snapshotting and the deathmark stuff
which somehow they managed to avoid with skullsplitter on arms
but kept on exsang
vernal adder
nova dome
that's just the rogue classic
balmy condor
a bit annoying
cause like, exsang as an effect CAN work
you just have to be really careful about it
and they were both not careful about it
and then also didn't care to iterate
and just kinda fiddled with numbers and cd and shit and then got rid of it
which like, yeah
it's good that it's gone
but if it wasn't the thing that it was, it would've been fine
nova dome
yeah, I liked it a lot back with vendetta, but then they completely broke it in DF and it became unfun and had very toxic gameplay
balmy condor
even with vendetta is was kinda questionable honestly
like in bfa that shit was giga toxic too
but people only remember haha press button infinite energy burst number go up brrrrrrr
rotund oak
yeah lots of stuff clashing^^
balmy condor
oh yeah just stand in this tiny circle on the ground for the haste buff when you press exsang
makes sense
and if you aren't in the tiny circle then you're BAD
and your parse is GONE
and you should FEEL BAD
nova dome
was that an azerite power or something? I didn't play much BFA
balmy condor
there was an on-use haste trinket
but it spawned a tiny rune on the ground
and you only got haste if you were in it
but we played giga haste corruptions
rotund oak
yeah the boon trinket
balmy condor
so we had like 90%+ haste
during lust up to like 150%
and you eventually hit a haste breakpoint where you had to talent CT and press that in single target too
because it just outscaled poison bomb
vernal adder
Is poison bomb still rng? I got ridic rank in nighthold cause of bomb rng
balmy condor
Is poison bomb still rng? I got ridic rank in nighthold cause of bomb rng
technically yes but it's like 40% chance not 10
spice surge
More bleeds less poisons next patch 
main bobcat
rotund oak
More bleeds less poisons next patch <:prayge:803711491021733888>
bleed believer Eleem believes
vernal adder
exang eleem
rotund oak
exeleem
balmy condor
More bleeds less poisons next patch <:prayge:803711491021733888>
I honestly don't even know what I want at this point, they just make shit so boring
next tier gonna be some shit like your bleeds deal a gorillion % extra damage to poisoned targets
and we're all gonna clap
only the 8th time they've done a tier set like that in 3 expansions
vernal adder
or some random shite nobody asked for
spice surge
I honestly don't even know what I want at this point, they just make shit so bor...
Even if its boring shit I just prefer red bleed boring shit over green poison boring shit
rotund oak
or some random shite nobody asked for
the most probable outcome,they introduce a bleed mechanic of short that nerf it down the way
we get an aura buff 3 months later
balmy condor
if season 2 tier sets are just "you deal 5% more damage always and the 4 set makes it 10%"
vernal adder
balmy condor
I might actually fry the fuck out
rotund oak
spice surge
But yeah it's not season 3 so there won't be any insano tiers probably
balmy condor
they have so much space in the class rotation now
to actually do interesting things
and I guarantee you they will not
or they'll be like "we're trying something new this season
vernal adder
depends what claude says
balmy condor
and then never do anything with it
"oh this is just a test, and if it goes well, we'll iterate on it and make it better!" and 7 years later that idea has never come back
brilliant stuff
royal lantern
where's your 1100 haste set sir
its 1150 haste mister
balmy condor
its my foot up your ass
vernal adder
1151
balmy condor
how bout that
royal lantern
hot
vernal adder
why isnt it 1111 haste
vernal adder
fucked up world man
vernal adder
its my pw
vernal adder
I should play again, been just talking in all channels
balmy condor
save yourself
vernal adder
royal lantern
I should play again, been just talking in all channels
balmy condor
sorry to hear that
after the first month-ish of a new season in wow
I spend most of my time in wow thinking about how I can play less wow
mortal crag
Back to destiny
vernal adder
ye the dungeons get old quick
balmy condor
can't even raid log anymore cause they make you farm your voidshards
and then they uncap crests
royal lantern
ye the dungeons get old quick
doesnt help when half of them are old dungeons
i love farming AA every 2nd season for puzzlebox since that dungeon got released
vernal adder
doesnt help when half of them are old dungeons
dont get too excited about the new s2 dungeons,its gonna be purgatory
balmy condor
surely they bring back upper/lower kara in s2 right
we haven't seen karazhan in almost 3 seasons
that's unacceptable
vernal adder
lower kara is hand myself territory
balmy condor
or mechagon, but only one half so you can't even use the cool rings
because cool things aren't allowed
red schooner
Bringing back Dawnbreaker. They'll have fixed the bugs this time.
royal lantern
Bringing back Dawnbreaker. They'll have fixed the bugs this time.
atleast killingspree doesnt end with you killing yourself anymore
vernal adder
I would imagine troll stuff,since next is troll surely
balmy condor
yeh it's gotta be troll
red schooner
Have the cata ZG/ZA dungeons been in the m+ rotations?
balmy condor
nop
vernal adder
kings rest so warrs can jerk off on gettiku
royal lantern
kings rest so warrs can jerk off on gettiku
you mean "all the reddit ret paladins and fury warriors complaining about mythic level loot because they cant get a mythic level gettiku in week -4 of the patch"
vernal adder
you mean "all the reddit ret paladins and fury warriors complaining about mythic...
shiiiiet I pay 2milly bruh for weapon
Gotta get my ret up to speed so I can sell
poor lass only has 700k
snow compass
Anyone able telling me what Im doing wrong in M+ based on this 🥸 ( sorry if this does not belong in this chat just delete in thats the case)
balmy condor
looks fine to me
everything is in the order it should be
maybe rupture is low I guess but like, that would depend on how things are being pulled and the key level and all that idk
snow compass
Then why cant I ever beat my friends who play idiot specs like arms and havoc with similar gear
vernal adder
class diff
snow compass
11 key
balmy condor
why would you assume that you're supposed to be beating your friends
yeh 11 you're not going to beat them
normal mist
yeah aint no way you're beating them
The build you're using is good for high keys, just swap to sudden demise build
balmy condor
yeh
sudden demise probably your only hope at that key range if your goal is beating your friends
jolly stirrup
cause like, exsang as an effect *CAN* work
What was/is it?
snow compass
I will rather get the final laugh when we hit high keys and keep practicing this spec
balmy condor
What was/is it?
cd, press to increase tick rate of bleeds
so like if it was 100% faster, it would be same damage, but in half the time
single target
jolly stirrup
cd, press to increase tick rate of bleeds
thats sounds broken. Did we have Deathmark already as well?
Or caustic
balmy condor
It existed well before deathmark, but we did have them together, yes
jolly stirrup
Did it work? So many questions
balmy condor
if you pressed it after deathmark it would reduce the duration of deathmark as well
that was cool
you just lost all your damage if you did deathmark -> exsang
timid pollen
on plater nameplates how do i ignore the weapon poisons and some other buffs like internal bleeding? if needed i can switch to platynator or any othe one too since it's too bothersome to see every single debuff/dot on the enemy
checked several settings and none worked so far
balmy condor
instead of exsang-> deathmark
balmy condor
on plater nameplates how do i ignore the weapon poisons and some other buffs lik...
the same as I told you earlier
jolly stirrup
Why did they take it away?
balmy condor
Why did they take it away?
cause it was giga jank, snapshotted haste, was really unintuitive, and at the end of its life cycle had to be nerfed into a 3min cd
timid pollen
sorry about the duplication then, couldnt see that
worn geyser
that legion prepatch when it was giga was crazy, just doing a bajillion dmg to kilrog
mortal crag
Was bone spear around during that too
jolly stirrup
cause it was giga jank, snapshotted haste, was really unintuitive, and at the en...
How would you change it to bring it back
balmy condor
yes but that was hotfixed to not work with exsanguinate
because on PTR people bone spiked a world boss and exsanged it 5 times
and it crashed the world server
mortal crag
Yeah haha
balmy condor
How would you change it to bring it back
literally just skullsplitter
jolly stirrup
What is it
balmy condor
the same effect without the jank
balmy condor
exsang's entire problem was that it didn't technically speed up your bleeds
when you pressed the button it would look at the bleeds on the target, save all the info about it
remove the bleeds
then reapply a new bleed based on the info it saved and the speed multiplier
mortal crag
I see why it crashed lol
red schooner
balmy condor
talent was held together with fucking spit and duct tape
like if you thought deathstalker's mark was buggy
exsang makes the mark it's fucking bitch
royal lantern
I see why it crashed lol
it was one of the most hated abilitys man
like, even just the problems aside
mortal crag
exang or bone?
red schooner
new tier set 4 piece, random exsang procs, make it happen.
royal lantern
re-apply bleeds for max duration->exsang->let them run out and apply bleeds again, repeat when exsang is ready
balmy condor
exsang would've also been okay had they just made it a passive on vendetta
which they kinda did with deathmark
royal lantern
you just pressed rupture/garrote more often
worn geyser
still not fan of DM over vendetta shits cringe
balmy condor
anyway exsang should never come back unless the spec gets an overhaul or something cause you can actually just buff the numbers on deathmarks bleed bonus and energy regen
and you get the same effect
but without any extra work
like make negotiable contract that instead
royal lantern
like
2min cd where you point at the enemy and do more dmg cus you do more dmg
vs
2min cd where you do more dmg cus you duplicate your dots
balmy condor
150% instead of 100% and 160 energy instead of 80
royal lantern
much difference
balmy condor
gg exsang is back idk
worn geyser
its just a thematic dislike yes
royal lantern
i mean, what thematic did vendetta have
it was literally the "points angry at guy" meme
thin kernel
If they gonna stick with the simplicity they have now, the least they could do is make our aoe builders a bit more "flashy" it feels like your pressing the same button
balmy condor
If they gonna stick with the simplicity they have now, the least they could do i...
yeh, they tee'd themselves up to make it interesting with the energy gameplay and then forgot to add the energy gameplay
so now it's kinda just fok and expensive fok
royal lantern
i like how they made the gameplay "More simple"
balmy condor
I don't mind more simple, I also don't mind the direction they took
everything they did is totally fine
they just kinda half-assed it
royal lantern
the 81 year old Mom of one of our healers is in our guild
like, she mostly just does tmog farming and stuff
she stopped playing because "the gameplay of my Shaman has become too boring"
was kinda funny to read
thin kernel
I'm still waiting for my poison bomb button, dont think i'll ever get it.
balmy condor
she stopped playing because "the gameplay of my Shaman has become too boring"
to be fair, blizzard has been chasing the incredibly elusive "casual player" that they supposedly lost in the mop/wod era
it's like a ghost they keep seeing
and thinking its there
isn't the first time they've tried to bring back the lost casual playerbase they think doesn't exist
unsuccessfully each time
worn geyser
yeah they are definitely gonna somehow capture the zoomer casual market that isnt 20 custom skins deep in marvel rivals
royal lantern
ngl, there is in general this really weird perception of "casual players"
like, people always bring up that only 0,0000000000000000000000000001% of the playerbase ever enter dungeons or raids and all that stuff
and translate that into "that means that EVERYONE ELSE is a bigtime tmog and mount farmer that 24/7 levels alts and runs around in the world and does world quests!!!!"
when like
no?
a huge chunk of the playerbase literally just stops playing after a couple weeks of a content drop
balmy condor
making specs simpler and stuff is totally fine if the intent is to flesh it out and like double down on the thematics
like sub doubling down on clones or assa doubling down on energy
like that's cool
neat
do that then
but what they did instead was kinda just remove stuff, have a good base, add the beginnings of those things
and then leave
and went "casuals love this"
"job done"
balmy condor
the "Correct" way to do it would've been to just make one thematic/core mechanic with the apex talents, and have it be like if you do this mechanic correctly, you do damage, if you don't play the mechanic then you are not playing the spec and you're like -25%
and assa kinda has that except it's -1%
and most specs don't even have the one core mechanics anymore
worn geyser
As a casual i can now play sub and parse purple
w pop Cooldown macro shadowstrike evis spam this will do numbers with the casual audience surely
balmy condor
like sub's clone thing just to toss out something
could be like you can double cast your abilities during dance
and the second cast is a clone attack
worn geyser
that sounds dope
balmy condor
so now you have:
- very obvious gameplay of when in dance -> double tap shit
- if you don't do the gameplay, you suck
- it is the core mechanic of sub, if you don't like that, then you don't like sub, go play something else
it's clear, it's obvious
good stuff
but like
"your shit banks stacks on a buff and then if you have more than some number then you get a passive and a proc that you don't really notice and then you have more cp but you don't want that you want to use the thing again to proc it again"
what are we doing
royal lantern
subs apex is the most convoluted ability description ever
worn geyser
more simple than the adv optimization they got for that also, like i dunno if casual people are really going hmm do i have 5 sht stacks and supercharger and its 5pm on thursday then press ss
balmy condor
ye
royal lantern
for a spec that is one of the easiest and most simple specs in the game rn
its insane
balmy condor
like there are ways to make things interesting and add depth
and give something cool
without it being insano all over the place
but
guess not idk
royal lantern
more simple than the adv optimization they got for that also, like i dunno if ca...
talent trees are a issue there aswell tbh
like, they are in a weird spot
cant add active abilitys cus then people start with BUTTON BLOAT
cant add % stat increases cus "thats boring"
so its like 80% passive effects on top of passive effects
normal mist
w pop Cooldown macro shadowstrike evis spam this will do numbers with the casua...
Haven't raided in 2 weeks, havent upgraded items to 298, i picked up the spec, spent 15 minutes in dummies and was like " yeah thats it"
worn geyser
cranking
royal lantern
Haven't raided in 2 weeks, havent upgraded items to 298, i picked up the spec, s...
get the haste requirment->get guidon->macro dance and secret tech togheter
GG, sub in Midnight
normal mist
could have way better parses but CBA
normal mist
get the haste requirment->get guidon->macro dance and secret tech togheter
100% this
worn geyser
idk the passive trees are more complex than they were quite a while ago, yet they are on a mission to simplfiy rotations/button bloat doesnt make sense to me
like before i could just look at the tree and be like ok these 4 things affect my shit, now its like 10 small things that passively affect it
balmy condor
Haven't raided in 2 weeks, havent upgraded items to 298, i picked up the spec, s...
my rank 1 chim from almost 3 weeks ago is still rank 23 now, before voidshards came out, but after bonus rolls, and I was too lazy to bonus roll anything so I have hero head/neck/rings/cloak/feet/puzzle box
full haste enchants cause I played sub the night before
shit is actually a clown fiesta idk
like if you open the log and you're like wow this guy must be juiced out of his mind and omega geared
normal mist
Yeah those points where "Rng now"
runic hinge
oh im stroking
balmy condor
What
runic hinge
what
jolly stirrup
cloud topaz
I don't see damage from poison bomb on my damage, is it added to the caustic spatter or something?
golden loom
I don't see damage from poison bomb on my damage, is it added to the caustic spa...
Its a part of envenoms damage
cloud topaz
Thank you
glossy dust
and you see this shit
is it that bad with rng or are prople just bad
royal lantern
is it that bad with rng or are prople just bad
we have a ~15% variance by default rn allready
S1 btw
glossy dust
we have a ~15% variance by default rn allready
die hear that surwly at some point u highroll
royal lantern
i mean yeha
that means sometimes you just do up to roughly 15% more or less dmg just because of random things you cant controll
🤷♂️
glossy dust
it is what it is
coral ibex
glossy dust
what is weird is, that wirh all the upgrades that are surely a couple %
u would think uf see someone highroll much higher dps
coral ibex
thats not how variance works but ok
royal lantern
there is also the thing that most really high geared people dont really do chimmy rn anymore
shy axle
do you even bother anymore with ct on bosses with fast dying adds like the first one or saladhar in spire? or just the full st + splatter build that some/many use on alleria
royal lantern
cus like
they have their trinkets
or are proging beloren/lura/aleria rn
or finished the tier
glossy dust
thats not how variance works but ok
it is? sustained % more dmg u have for sure and possibly high roll at sone point if u do ut often enough
glossy dust
there is also the thing that most really high geared people dont really do chimm...
yeah was about to say that
there arwnt many reclears
coral ibex
glossy dust
wasnt it always havy rng tho? i swear i feel like ive been reading high variance in rogue discord since forever
or ist it now for all classes
glossy dust
eh w.e
marsh fjord
Gaze also adds a ton of variance
light quarry
isn't it locked to a specific ppm ?
yes, but if u pop cds as its at max stacks u do more than if u have 0, is what he means
jolly isle
I have 230ilvl boots and waist, everything else is above 260. should i craft boots/waist or skip those and craft my bis offhand? idk how badly 30+ ilvls on 2 pieces of equipment hurt my dps
coral ibex
massively
marsh fjord
isn't it locked to a specific ppm ?
This is what i mean
Two openers. two times bloodlust.
Left side 200k opener
right side 130k opener
ancient ingot
guys can someone explain what hurt more on last boss caverns? cant feel how rly i should use deffs
marble wadi
guys can someone explain what hurt more on last boss caverns? cant feel how rly ...
Well you can vasnih the totem suck but youre playing assa so cant really do thag
I mean you can pop evasion for 20% right before tankbuster
For the incoming aoe
terse warren
Hey guys, I have a question. In big pulls you just using using garotte, rupture ( on 5+ combo Points) and then spread with crimson tempest till bleeds are spread to all targets ? Or just a bunch?
And when you have 7combo points, always cast evenom first right? Instead of spread first
And for the rest its just fan of knives to build combo points i guess.
With cd's ofcourse
charred wind
spread to all and spenders at 5cp+
in big pulls with unlimited energy you don't need to use FON ( if i remember correctly )
terse warren
spread to all and spenders at 5cp+
Because like the first pull in academy, its hard to do a lot of damage, as there are so many adds, takes a long time to spread all
charred wind
only on a 16 on my alt rogue but https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WVcTCHgN9Jdny1bv?fight=25&type=damage-done&start=24772097&end=24853001
it does damage - 99% for assa on key level but my group was also good ( i had PI if i remember correctly too )
terse warren
in big pulls with unlimited energy you don't need to use FON ( if i remember cor...
Y caustic spatter does more dps then the bleeds
terse warren
it does damage - 99% for assa on key level but my group was also good ( i had PI...
Damn.. yea a lot of evenom I see, so less bleeds
golden loom
I mean you still spread bleeds cause its your builder for envenom
charred wind
crimson -> envenom repeatedly
terse warren
Yea but if you dont have a good group, you have to spread again which takes long time in really big pulls
charred wind
FON vs crimson tempest is so minimal in big pulls so spreading isn't really a cost
cause you have so much energy regen
terse warren
FON vs crimson tempest is so minimal in big pulls so spreading isn't really a co...
Ah ok, just repeating ct then to spread, evenom on 5+
oak ember
I mean you can pop evasion for 20% right before tankbuster
That's deathstalker no?
spice surge
Elusiveness
oak ember
nvm
oak ember
I got it
spice surge
He meant evasion
oak ember
I forgot it does 20% on evasion too
light quarry
the biggest part i miss about DS is the cloak/evasion DR thing, it was nice
hazy sundial
I hated DS so much that i played my warrior alt in TWW
near aspen
do we have any ds cooks yet?
light quarry
do we have any ds cooks yet?
wowhead
real pike
on Beloren, is it worth holding pot for second egg phase cause execute
even if we get lust first egg
peak shoal
I couldn't find it in the guides but is dungeon slice suitable when simming M+ or is it a mix of patchwork sims?
storm forum
we like dslice over the options
static glacier
even if we get lust first egg
I don’t believe so, but I’ve not summed it either
storm forum
generally better than just simming 5 target or dungeon route for the average player
real pike
I don’t believe so, but I’ve not summed it either
I forgor and pressed pot first egg
and we killed it
lols
wooden jasper
IS THere a more precise way to sim assassination for m+ high keys?
cause lets be real the dungeon cleave is absolutely not representative of how m+ goes
oak ember
Dungeon slice is for nerds
analog field
dungeon route is a for nerds
severe meadow
@haughty flicker
thorn thorn
real
thorn thorn
do not join that key
severe meadow
do not join that key
can't be that bad, surely
paper arch
Can we delete this mechanic from thistle tea that it goes by itself at 30 energy?
Its annoying
Like is there a option to switch it off which i cannot see?
humble verge
wtf when did they add mmr to pisslow ranks
storm forum
Like is there a option to switch it off which i cannot see?
best you can do is talent out of it
paper arch
Or not go under 30 energy
runic hinge
or just ignore it cause it doesnt matter when you use your teas
fallow canopy
mfw one talent acts like a passive
golden loom
Can we delete this mechanic from thistle tea that it goes by itself at 30 energy...
Its just energy, doesnt even give mastery anymore, and even when it did give mastery having it autoproc also didnt matter
paper arch
I like to pop it manually after kingsbane and annoyed when its dried out by itself
golden loom
I mean doesnt really do anything but you do you king
wooden jasper
I just do single target boss and swap it to 6 for aoe
swap it? like u can do a 2m single + 4m aoe? or u do a sim for both depending of the % u estimate for single vs aoe uptime?
peak shoal
we like dslice over the options
Thank you!
ocean root
hello! Is there any spreadsheet for our evasion- cloak on where each one works for m+ ?
severe meadow
@balmy condor is Ren fun? 
supple cloud
hey guys for raids do we stack amp poison to 10 stacks before envenom?
royal lantern
amp exists