assassination

[severe meadow]

I don't even know yet, still haven't watched the update video

[fair crypt]

how good is augf fior us

[fallow canopy]

can't find that node on path of building

[fallow canopy]

fair I'm waiting on the patch notes to actually see what I feel like playing

prob monk and flicker

[severe meadow]

Likely the same

[iron thorn]

playing poo2

[jolly stirrup]

New personal best

[half igloo]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[half igloo]

@ember kindle

[sick sail]

been using mythic pbox as sub, feels weird might go back to heroic guida, also feels bad ilvl wise

might have to hard swap to assa

[coral ibex]

puzzle box is catastrophically bad for sub

[runic hinge]

Puzzy b is catastrophically bad for my mental

[upbeat sail]

this

[buoyant herald]

damn you got schlaged 🙁

[sick sail]

yea just cant get into m raid so

[static glacier]

I think it can slam aoe, but ye st its worse

[iron thorn]

best pull tonight and i did 2nd most dmg (33%)

now i just need to do the same on kill range pulls consistently

and we good

(still fuck paladins tho)

[balmy condor]

what we fightin

paladins?

[iron thorn]

ya

[balmy condor]

big

[iron thorn]

dogshit boss still

[balmy condor]

170 is a slam

big damma

[iron thorn]

yuuup

we'll reclear wednesday again tho i fear

soooo

not killing this wednesday

[humble verge]

holy dog

[fallow canopy]

Rip laura

[worn geyser]

crazy laura nerfs

[spice surge]

Hof closing = last boss nerf

As is tradition and expected

[humble verge]

jau

[iron thorn]

tbf even with these nerfs

i feel like the boss is still kinda close to what it was

[balmy condor]

glaive duration is a huge nerf

[iron thorn]

that is for sure

[balmy condor]

a lot of wipes are just glaives

[fallow canopy]

Yea, a lot less p1 nerfs overall

[worn geyser]

my guild last overtime night tonight , prolly wont kill tho, gonna be a fun seeing p1 like that after 200+ p1s before it

[fallow canopy]

*wipes

[iron thorn]

but like glaive wipes are the worst kind of wipe no

so its good theyre gone

like i already hate dying to a shield on paladins

[balmy condor]

the difficulty of the boss is you get glaived to shit while doing everything else

[worn geyser]

theyre by far the most common wipe , crystal carrier getting surprised by worlds slowest moving naruto shurikan

[fallow canopy]

You could have some insane overlaps on glaives due to the rng of the bounces or you literally payphone, with these the payphone tries are gonna be even more common ig

[worn geyser]

it makes the 3rd crystal set basically same difficulty as 2nd cause the only additional difficulty was the extra glaive hazards and thats like a decent amount of our wipes

around that 3rd crystal set due to amount of glaives

[fallow canopy]

P1 even more boring for non crystal people

[waxen oyster]

i love how im just payphoning

since boss is afk for us

at most you can do a kick

to pretend you're contributing

[fallow canopy]

I'm doing my part by pressing a macro every once in a while

[waxen oyster]

then i see a crystal guy get hit in intermission

[fallow canopy]

Part of the team ™

[waxen oyster]

and whole raid go allahu snackbar

[balmy condor]

I'm not even doing that

I did my part on beloren

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[waxen oyster]

yeah i just hit my kick macro

when airhorn blares

[balmy condor]

our kicks are assigned

and I'm not one of them!

[waxen oyster]

oh

so you really the full payphone experience

[fallow canopy]

Sad we miss hof for the first time since i joined the guild

[worn geyser]

wow full payphone no kick assign

[plain thistle]

I have been usin a shadowstep + kick macro, do we need it? Too afraid to try without shadowstep

[fallow canopy]

Our laura prog has been scuffed

[balmy condor]

Sad we miss hof for the first time since because i joined the guild

don't sell yourself short king

[worn geyser]

u do not need to shadow step ive not used shadow step to kick a single time

[plain thistle]

Gg thx

Sometimes shadowstep is a little danger kekw

[fallow canopy]

We got hof for the 1st time the season i joined, causation = correlation am I right?

[worn geyser]

honestly the kick radius is massive idk, ive never payed attention to that at all, as long as ur in melee ur good

[fallow canopy]

Well funny thing is

[balmy condor]

this doesn't fit my narrative

fuck

[fallow canopy]

You could actually miss the kick if you are too into the boss hitbox and the thing is flying behind you, our fury warrior did that once

[jolly isle]

does this mean i had an overall 91% uptime on garrote? or is that 33% of 58%?

[balmy condor]

it means you had an overall uptime of 58%

[worn geyser]

bro how far in the crystussy was he to miss thats crazy

i stand pretty close and never had mine miss

[balmy condor]

and an uptime of 33% imp garrote on that 58%

[fallow canopy]

You live and you learn ig

Or in this case we die

[worn geyser]

we had that happen a few times with runes, our dk just was like inside laura and it hit his out of order… like 3 different times

[fallow canopy]

I think that one is a rite of passage but 3 times is a lot lol

[iron thorn]

could we stop calling her laura and someone being inside her

that sounds

[plain thistle]

[worn geyser]

would laurence work better

[iron thorn]

[waxen oyster]

Yes

its june in 2 weeks

only fitting

[worn geyser]

[balmy condor]

3 hours of getting skullfucked by laurence

[iron thorn]

[fallow canopy]

Yeah that sounds better

[royal lantern]

i hope thats me

but i doubt that

cus im paying the price for being a halfway reliable player by being the mechanics dumbo

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

[balmy condor]

that's what I'm sayin man

[balmy condor]

burdened by the course of intellect

[quiet star]

So assassination popularity currently is a bit above of broken mm spec

[iron thorn]

one of those .2% fire mages is in my guild

[quiet star]

Bro holds

[iron thorn]

true onetrick

[quiet star]

It's really crazy we have no tuning for dps second week in row

[iron thorn]

game is in a good state

like lowkey is i feel like

in raid you're just getting cucked by encounter design

[viscid spear]

L'ura Croft, Raid Tomber

[iron thorn]

good cook

[quiet star]

Idk, run pos today, dk did 25% more damage
I know I'm bad, but he is also not 95 percentile

[iron thorn]

blizz doesnt balance keys mate

[quiet star]

Why even bother by playing something else rly

[plain thistle]

Would love a few % tho

[quiet star]

But they eventually do that sometimes

[worn geyser]

dk is just extra ordinary with devo tbh, sin damage in keys is honestly pretty good compared to regular dos other than those 2

[quiet star]

And compared to lower tier specs it's even better yes, that's how tiers works
But the difference between a and s tier is crazy now

On dk he not only does more, but it also much easier to implement that damage

[iron thorn]

and then you have devourer with one of the craziest skillcaps in the game rn no?

like legit getting 5 stars consistently is a feat for itself

[worn geyser]

well, u dont gotta convince me, im a dk hater, class is busted in keys for a lot of reasons

but unfortunately makes sense for them to not touch tuning heavily late into season

[iron thorn]

i did play a bit of devourer and i sucked brutally

which is why i just went back to tanking on my dh

[quiet star]

But devourer rly requires practice because you lose a lot by failing star chaining, dk doesn't have this issue

[waxen oyster]

i mean dk is just stupid

because you dont die

or do mechanics

[iron thorn]

anti mechanic shell

[quiet star]

In this pos key half of the dungeon I was like - "duo dk will work much better here"

The only good thing in season is phys comp viability

[iron thorn]

zac grp always makes phys comp look good

and then you realise they're just crazy gamers

and thats the reason they're 4k+

[quiet star]

Also isn't unholy S tier in raids as well?

[iron thorn]

it does sick boss dmg

thats about it no?

[waxen oyster]

Well every relevant boss

grip is good for

[quiet star]

Yes, same with squishyvegan

[iron thorn]

but even in boss dmg uh gets overtaken by frost now iirc

bro fdk is crazy rn, i need to level my dk wtf

[quiet star]

So unholy s tier in whole content

[iron thorn]

well assa does top 5 boss dmg too

sooooo

assa s tier in raid?

i doubt it

[quiet star]

With such long rumpup for any trash pack I still doesn't know how you guys play raids

[iron thorn]

i don't quite get what you mean

[quiet star]

I mean situations like on chim where assa feels frustrating, because you can't do anything than singletarget boss or kicks/cc after grips

[waxen oyster]

you kill the boss earlier

[iron thorn]

just fuck up the boss

easy

[waxen oyster]

when adds still have hp

or that

sub is just better at instant exploding shitters

[iron thorn]

yeah but dont do that

i played sub

did more dmg

but fighting to be first on adds

is eww

[quiet star]

Earlier than intermission? What

[worn geyser]

the one that is more frustrating for me is something like dragons cause the adds blow up in like 1 global

[waxen oyster]

If you kill mythic chim week 1

[iron thorn]

yes exactly

[waxen oyster]

the adds have hp

because no one has gear

:))

[iron thorn]

yeah but im in a guild with no CE so far

we just prog mythic as far as we get

[quiet star]

Now you barely touch them

[waxen oyster]

idk

i havent done mythic chim in 6 weeks

[quiet star]

What I mean

[worn geyser]

on chim i spread my little dots on them, hit big guy for 2 sec cause he dies so fast now too, go back to hitting my target dummy

[waxen oyster]

this late in farm adds explode instantly

on most bosses

[iron thorn]

yes

just hit boss

very hard

repeatedly

[shy heron]

Great news: chimaerus counts as CE

[iron thorn]

peak gameplay

[iron thorn]

you know what i mean

but yes

[waxen oyster]

its welfare hof

too

[iron thorn]

I do have gally CE too

[quiet star]

That assa have slow rumpup and any trash moments doesn't work usually

So you suck on dps automatically

[iron thorn]

but i dont count that because its a) gallywix and b) because i was trialed in farm

[waxen oyster]

you do good boss dam

[spice surge]

You cant pad much on adds yes

This raid just has a lot of small adds you can padd on

[waxen oyster]

i mean rating a spec based on how good it pads on farm

[worn geyser]

ye u just turn the damage meter to ‘enemy damage taken’ and click on the boss gg

[waxen oyster]

is a terrible metric

[iron thorn]

idk i just do boss dmg

[spice surge]

But assa is just a bit undertuned

[iron thorn]

and turn out to be 2nd

in meters

was fun

[spice surge]

Not unplayable horribly undertuned, just not that great

[quiet star]

Ofc it's terrible, but that's how it works in pug myth

[iron thorn]

do me the favour

and try not to pad

just see your boss dmg be miles away from others

and be happy

your spec is meant to do boss dmg

not pad

if you wanna pad, spec sub and send sectechs into smallies

thats insta dmg

[waxen oyster]

ngl

[spice surge]

Unfortunately atm sub is doing more boss damage too

[waxen oyster]

if you just want to orange parse damage

play a tank

[quiet star]

I didn't say it's unplayable, I said it's frustrating

[iron thorn]

i played sub on last chim pug

sending blades into adds downstairs

[quiet star]

Unfortunately for who

[iron thorn]

is dumb funny ngl

[spice surge]

Because of the haste shit nobody is playing deathstalker either

Which is quite a bit better on boss damage

[fallow canopy]

Not yet

[iron thorn]

the haste req for sub

is what made me play assa

lowkey

[fallow canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365600517417467914/1447164628441501767/G7eDB38WkAAC7rW.gif

[iron thorn]

i HATE those 700 haste

[fallow canopy]

If I had a big haste neck I'd probably try DS

[iron thorn]

especially because sim tells me to gear for less

[worn geyser]

try the 1100 for DS

[iron thorn]

i dont have a single gear set

[quiet star]

Haste shit?

[iron thorn]

that could hit that

even with flask

1100 haste, so 940 without flask

lemme check

but i doubt it

[waxen oyster]

ds is cool

then you get parried

and ask why you play this shit

[worn geyser]

its cooked, i dont have a set i can do that in either , or i wouldve at least done a few lura pulls with it

[spice surge]

You generally need one of these three to hit it:

• Alleria neck
• Lura ring
• Crafted engineering item(s) with haste

Which is jank af

[fallow canopy]

Can't get parried on laura ( i think)

[waxen oyster]

you can get parried on dimmy

"jus stand bhind boss"

loved delaying my opener as assa on dimmy

since my env got parried

[iron thorn]

i think with haste gems i could hit it

[viscid spear]

[iron thorn]

(i do have hc alleria neck)

[waxen oyster]

i got parried twice on rupture in opener one pull

i was so tempted to alt f4

right there

[quiet star]

Will try next week, on my road to gaze

[worn geyser]

yo guys /pull 120 i need to go recraft my helm to haste to try DS out

oh i didnt like it? gimme another 5 need to recraft

that is fried

[quiet star]

Do you guys mean haste on sub or assa right now?

I guess it's for sub but worth to double check

[worn geyser]

sub

[oak ember]

why do you need so much haste for deathstalker

[iron thorn]

some weird shit with sectech cd probably

[spice surge]

Sectech lines up better, and you can use two darkest nights in dance a lot of the time

[oak ember]

Ooh I thought it was for assa

nvm then

[iron thorn]

no no

assa DS is big poopoo

and thats good

[quiet star]

Yeah, at start they get buffed, now they take this chat

And takes the best we have - deathstalker spec

[iron thorn]

avg iron lobby

how do you have 1.3m mastery on kata

and chill in iron

[severe meadow]

I have a friend with 1k hours on cs and he's hot doo doo garbage at it

[iron thorn]

(i'm the riven and yes i'm legit iron 4)

[severe meadow]

I imagine the same thing

[oak ember]

That's his lobby, you're just a guest

[worn geyser]

1k hours in cs is like just hitting max level in wow

[severe meadow]

I have 1300 and I hit GE, I don't think that's the case xd

[worn geyser]

thats pretty good tbh, i would bet most dont ge in 1300

[severe meadow]

It was in my younger days where I'd slam deathmatch for hours and never go outside

The only difference now is I'm not young and I don't really play cs now

[low silo]

realistically how bad is this to not have to run puzzlebox in keys

[worn geyser]

ye, cs also is kinda harder now tho than back in the day , even new players know some decent utility lmao

[severe meadow]

I think competitive is kinda dead now anyway, yeah?

Premier is the new thing

[fallow canopy]

yea

comp is more casual

and if you are ultra sweat face it

[worn geyser]

ye, i think alot of ppl just faceit now tho but idk % but thats all i play

[worn geyser]

would not recommend, but if ur not pushing high keys and dont care about ur dmg that much then go crazy

[severe meadow]

I played a bit when cs2 came out, I think I hit like

15k-16k in premier and just stopped playing

[low silo]

Im pushing 18-19s rn 🙁

i hate puzzle box

[severe meadow]

Idk I kinda miss cs

[iron thorn]

idk i'm shit at video games

[hazy sundial]

How can anyone with two hands be iron i don’t get it

[iron thorn]

except wow

where i'm decent at best

[worn geyser]

then ye would not recommend, its not so bad that i think it would cost u several key levels but i wouldnt do it

[low silo]

[worn geyser]

the game sucks, 25k+ premier is cheater every 3rd game

[iron thorn]

so i peaked bronze 2 early in the season and then it just went downhill ig. and i cannot carry games enough in iron because i'm bad at the game

[severe meadow]

Impossible, Valve has anti-cheat

Which means no cheaters..

[fallow canopy]

meanwhile

[severe meadow]

[fallow canopy]

idc that much since I barely play these days but holy

[severe meadow]

Yeah I do know the cheater problem in cs2 was CRAZY for a minute

[fallow canopy]

I'd say it still is

[worn geyser]

high end faceit u still get some here and there, or third party tournaments, dma cheats go crazy rn

[severe meadow]

[fallow canopy]

but maybe I'm just paranoid

[severe meadow]

I just play tarkov now where the cheating is probably just as bad

[worn geyser]

i quit tark after i hit 12 labs in a row of cheaters this last wipe

[severe meadow]

we never went labs

only time we did was to do the stupid fucking stim quest at the beginning

Pharmacist I think

I have somewhat high hopes for the next big patch

A lot of big changes

[worn geyser]

i feel the same thing about wow every patch cycle but everytime i logon the crests are still there and my rogue is still missing smoke bomb

[severe meadow]

Tbf I think we kinda knew Midnight was going to be a semi dumpster fire

[worn geyser]

honestly was better than i thought but i thought they would take a harder line on addons but it seems they have crumbled

[severe meadow]

It just felt really rushed

[runic inlet]

Whats the reasoning behind using ct as your primary builder in aoe once your bleeds are spread? i've seen some streamers doing that

[worn geyser]

it just does more damage

if u have the energy to spare

[waxen oyster]

Its nice i dont feel any fomo raidlogging

because of this

[keen raven]

Lura is the guild killer lmao

[severe meadow]

Isn't p1 getting nerfed

[waxen oyster]

isnt every endboss

[severe meadow]

maybe no more p1 wipe factory

[waxen oyster]

I feel high pull bosses always kill mid/low tier CE guilds

[worn geyser]

idk how that boss is a guild killer its more boring than frustrating

[runic inlet]

makes sense

[keen raven]

I think when things go above 200-300

[keen raven]

I mean my guild finished world 150 as a 9hr guild

I know a bunch of other 100-200 guilds that disbanded lmao

Worst part about a disband is you go to a new guild you gotta try in reclears 🤮

[waxen oyster]

i mean this happens to more established guilds too

management becomes old

juice aint wortht the squeeze anymore

personally i think under 200 means the endboss is too easy

[waxen oyster]

Also, 9h is pretty standard in that range.

[fresh kelp]

"9 hours"

[waxen oyster]

9h with extra day first 2-3 weeks

probably

ngl any guild that claims to be a "x day/hours guild" but raids more than that during prog

bffr

[past marten]

I'm in a 6 hour guild and we'll average out on 5 probably

[waxen oyster]

the most diabolical shit was once i saw

"normal splits"

from a non hof guild

[chrome cedar]

(my guild does that)

[waxen oyster]

i mean if im gonna do splits we better be done with the tier faster

[past marten]

Bingus with the neutral name and his hater light blue, tragic

[waxen oyster]

isnt it bungusgrappy more

nowadays

[worn geyser]

yes let me make raid prep more miserable so that the fun part can be shorter 🔥

[fresh kelp]

the young bungusgrippy

[past marten]

Peak betrayal

[waxen oyster]

its already miserable

i have to do m+

when people ask me why i hate the first 2 weeks of a tier:

[past marten]

M+ on season start is weird. I look forward to having something to grind, then I do it and hate every second of it.

[deep latch]

is hunt just the btter embell?

I feel like crafting dagger when i have double myth daggers is weird

[waxen oyster]

m+ is fun when im just behind the unemployed mf by 4 ilvl on tuesday

[worn geyser]

its really good, would sim it but would bet on it beating myth offhand

[waxen oyster]

:)))

[deep latch]

dang okay interesting

if not dagger whats good 2nd embell? ring?

[waxen oyster]

another arcanoweave probs

offhand still bin

[worn geyser]

ye its just another arcanoweave

[waxen oyster]

idk i feel usually offhand/bracer are just the weakest slot

last tier was just weird since ascension had ramp

hunt is generally good

[worn geyser]

hunt is really good tho so ur just losing some dmg for fun by not having it

[waxen oyster]

maybe its iffy on lura as sub

since it procs haste

[spice surge]

Its vers

[worn geyser]

it procs vers no?

[waxen oyster]

wasnt it haste

i've been lied to

[fallow canopy]

no, vers

[waxen oyster]

salvageable

ig

[worn geyser]

its ‘not specified’ mob type or whatver

[past marten]

Vers sims pretty well on ds sub, can't stop winning

[waxen oyster]

ds

[keen raven]

I think they added a total of 2 or days, think our prog shows 3.1 days a week avg

[waxen oyster]

💀

[keen raven]

I specifically avoid guilds that OT

[waxen oyster]

Idk that's still OT which honestly annoys me how rampant it is.

[keen raven]

Imo most guilds in the 100-200 are 16-20 hours a week

They just kill bosses by pulling more kek

[waxen oyster]

Well

pretty sure that extends past 100

[keen raven]

12 hour world 50-120 is the sweet spot ngl

[waxen oyster]

where's the chinese 900 tindral guild

or sum shit

[fallow canopy]

some guild killed dimmy with like 1k pulls

[waxen oyster]

yeah

spamming until that one ranged you cant trust

doesnt get the mechanic

[chrome cedar]

would your guild go up to 12 hrs?

[desert moss]

Where can i apply?

[past marten]

Having a partner, a job and some type of gym regimen just makes it impossible to go beyond 6 for me personally

[iron thorn]

ditch the gf, quit your job and stop going gym

ez

solved your problem

[past marten]

Not sure if I value WR above these things

[rain mortar]

Just he a 2 day guild at WR 1000ish and trust me, no OT haha

[keen raven]

my guild disbanded kek

[iron thorn]

disband right after lura

ggs

like god intended

[rancid summit]

Does implacable track correctly in the cooldown manager UI?

[iron thorn]

its split into two now

and you only need to track the stacking one

also yes

[rancid summit]

ok, I was looking at caustic spatter. No wonder the cooldowns didn't line up

does this feel a bit smoother once you get to 90? I miss when spreading bleeds gave me a ton of energy

[iron thorn]

spec feels good in endgame imo

you're meant to be low energy at times

its just the way blizz wants the spec to function

[rancid summit]

does spreading envenom onto multiple targets help?

just feels like some pretty low lows at times

[iron thorn]

once you have no more tea stacks thats just how it is

[rancid summit]

once the mob dies does that also trigger the regen?

[iron thorn]

now idk what exactly you mean

[severe meadow]

From the bleeds or the apex

[rancid summit]

apex

if it does with envenom on it

[iron thorn]

apex is on you

[severe meadow]

Apex is just stacks tha have a duration

You let that fall off

At max stacks

So you still get the regen whether it’s alive or dead

[rancid summit]

I see

[small pier]

I’m new to assass and keep seeing people using crimson tempest over blade flurry at times, even after they’ve spread their bleeds.. are they doing this for a reason?

[keen raven]

no unless uve extended garrote/rupture to then respread

[pseudo crow]

I saw someone using CT to apply Internal Bleeding and keep refreshing it nonstop, is it worth the big energy dump or shud i stick to FoK?

[keen raven]

I mean itd have to be a pretty huge pull

but yea u can

if u dont have any energy issues then yea

[hazy sundial]

Anyone who has “played games” before can get to platinum easily. No talent or skill required

[rancid summit]

even in aoe? the goal is always just 5 envenoms then let it fall off and pool again?

[balmy condor]

if you won't overcap energy, yes

the apex proc is just energy "on demand" when you drop it

if you won't lose anything in the process, it's just free

[rancid summit]

ok, makes sense. I'm level 83 now and energy just feels rough. Trying to figure it out still

[balmy condor]

it will continue to feel rough, doesn't really change from leveling

[rancid summit]

Kinda sad to hear that. I like assassination a lot. The venomous wounds nerf is hitting the hardest

[iron thorn]

Okay thanks mate. Very helpful advice and totally asked for.

[severe meadow]

Yes because WoW and path of exile, my top two played games translates to league of legends quite well

[iron thorn]

Oh they are for you too?

Now that’s funny

How long you been playing poe for?

[coral ibex]

if we're generous he probably meant if you've gotten good at one game you can get good at anothern

[severe meadow]

Uh like 2k hours or something

[iron thorn]

I got the 1k hours this league

[severe meadow]

I got bored this league really quick tbh

I finished atlas and all that jazz

[iron thorn]

I was about to quit after week 1 because bows weren’t my cuppa

[severe meadow]

My second build was bow xd

[iron thorn]

Wanted to finish atlas tho and got a lucky mb from seer

[severe meadow]

I cleared atlas on slams as per usual and then swapped to uh

That new instant cast scourge arrow

[iron thorn]

So I spent that money on a foulborn ghostwrithe flicker Zerker

That shit was fun

[severe meadow]

I usually play flicker

I decided not to this league

Did you play during the merc league

[small pier]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[iron thorn]

When I got enough of that I made a bleed perforate glad and just did some chill content aka learning how to setup my betrayal board

[iron thorn]

Yeah, played Exsang Mines

And Rolling Magma Mines too

That was such a dumb build

Whole screen was orange balls and ears started bleeding from rolling magma sfx

[severe meadow]

I had a 2 mirror-ish flicker during merc

[iron thorn]

I’m yet to make that much money. I usually stop investing into characters once the next upgrade is upwards of 100d

I’ve had a mirror before, but because a friend gave it to me to have fun with after he quit the league and didn’t wanna gamble

[heavy basalt]

Trying to learn assassination, and I'm looking at logs right now, comparing them to my own. The biggest difference in the log I'm looking at compared to mine is that their caustic spatter does 18% of their damage vs my 12%. Is that just because my tank was pulling less, or am I missing something?

[iron thorn]

Looking at key logs?

Link something rq, I’ll take a look

[severe meadow]

It was all gamble money

Usually if ground loot is bad I’ll just gamble my way up

Cant go wrong with yellow juice and div cards

[iron thorn]

I lost 5 apos like this this league

[severe meadow]

Real pain is dusting the mirror cards

[iron thorn]

I don’t yellow juice gamba when bored, but open decks

Because I don’t value my wrist

So far still no apo

[severe meadow]

I mean Tbf it’s gotten so much better since tbey added the option to click from the stack

[iron thorn]

But I got a HoM last league

[severe meadow]

Instead of dragging it

[iron thorn]

Yeah that was a nice change for sure

[severe meadow]

Are you still playing this league

[iron thorn]

I was debating whether or not I wanna farm the itf mageblood

[blissful bone]

hey so im a 3.1k io and ive hit this wall when it comes to my dps and it seems that no matter what i do im always getting out done by the other specs and was wondering if there are any simple tips that might help improve my numbers see im new to assa this season and don't really know any of the nitty gritty stuff about this class

[iron thorn]

Chose not to, so not really playing anymore

[iron thorn]

Low keys are worse as assa

And 3.1k is like what? 13s and some 14s?

[blissful bone]

ya

[low silo]

In higher keys when our shit gets desynced do we just send it whenever until it lines up

[iron thorn]

Why you asking? Got currency for a gambling addict?

[storm forum]

Unless I'm saving for like a hero pull or something, I usually just send KB whenever and let DM be the thing that sits on CD when things get desync'd

[severe meadow]

I had like 80d but I think I dumped it into upgrades

[iron thorn]

Ah all good

I have one functioning character right now and my day2 bow char

Which has like 7m PoB dps that defo don’t feel like 7m

But my bleed glad is fun

And lives lol

[iron thorn]

So I did a 16 recently and was at like 135k dps compared to my two mates sitting at 155+

[blissful bone]

what stat break down should i have because im really heavy in crit at 40% then 29% mast and 11% haste and 5% vers

[iron thorn]

It really depends on your CDs and what mobs you put them on

[severe meadow]

Bleed glad was the tankiest shit I ever played

Just never got the damage very good

[iron thorn]

Wayyyy to much mastery mate, read the wowhead guide

[iron thorn]

https://pobb.in/saC8EzxnBPS2

[severe meadow]

Mastery good for aoe

God I tried crafting one of those axes and bought like

a 25d base

and wasted so much currency

ended up selling the one I shit crafted and just bought one

[iron thorn]

I tried recombing a triple t1 one and literally lost my mind

So stuck with the settle axe

[severe meadow]

Yeah, I did a lot of claw crafting xd

Burned 100s of divs

[heavy basalt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hWjdRXJnAKyqCk3H?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=2

[turbid yacht]

Is there anything in the talent tree where having Kingsbane applied increases the damage of Envenom? Or in general?

[heavy basalt]

one o fmy first few mid level keys as ssin

I know I need to work on bleed uptime and using my trinket. but any other info would be helpful

[balmy condor]

I guess this

aside from that, nothing overtly, no

[turbid yacht]

That's not even Kingsbane, that's just Deathmark.

I have been spending too much energy envenoming during Kingsbane for a while then...

[balmy condor]

I mean you want envenom's buff up during kb

but yes

[turbid yacht]

That part I knew, but indeed yes.

Thanks for the info

[balmy condor]

np

[small pier]

any tips? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YhJcB2MLQtTmKVR8?fight=5&type=summary

[novel dock]

can we no longer track dots by changing plater color? its so hard to see how many are missing dots T^T

[balmy condor]

that is not possible anymore

[novel dock]

dang it

[balmy condor]

just eyeball it

and if you press CT one too many times, not even a good mistake

like

it might even be better for you to press one extra depending on the pack

basically zero damage loss

[novel dock]

thx !!!

[small pier]

anyone? :)

[balmy condor]

it's raid/dinner time in NA

probably not many people around that can review 16's

[small pier]

ah okay

[coral ibex]

11 dm's in 27 minutes

missing casts

WR has a lot of running i will grant you

i still think thats low

should be getting 13 or 14 with a good tank

[small pier]

interesting, i didnt feel like i held that dungeon

[coral ibex]

if you pressed on cd you'd get 14 casts of a 2 minute cd in 27 minutes

[small pier]

right, makes sense

[turbid yacht]

Is PI not working in sims for us? I thought it was tied to DM.

[coral ibex]

sometimes the pulls dont line up, but a good tank will pull big around 1m/2m cds

or 90's if thats what the group has

[balmy condor]

it is

oh I guess I took out the pi_pool thing

so the raidbots setting wouldn't work fully

[turbid yacht]

Is there an advanced sim option to get it working right?

[balmy condor]

external_buffs.power_infusion=10/130/250/370/490

[turbid yacht]

You the GOAT

[balmy condor]

I can get the raidbots button fixed later

probably should work

not a lot of rogues simming PI

[plain thistle]

[turbid yacht]

I was curious about it, and leads into a question I already asked before: If the stars align and you can coincidentally line up PI with DM (meaning without missing a cast of either in the fight) during execute phase specifically, what specs would need to be missing from the raid for it to be worth switching PI to the rogue at that time?

Is it just WW monk and Fire mage?

[balmy condor]

every spec

[turbid yacht]

I'm depressed

[balmy condor]

like just start listing specs

[mortal crag]

Aren’t we terrible pi targets

[balmy condor]

in m+ you'd often prefer to PI a tank

[mortal crag]

Like bottom of the list

[balmy condor]

yes

[severe meadow]

Lock in, twin

[balmy condor]

good one

[plain thistle]

mod him

[turbid yacht]

I thought in ST we were halfway decent

[balmy condor]

we are halfway decent in ST

we're just not halfway decent PI targets

[severe meadow]

Nah PI is bad for us

[balmy condor]

energy class

what can you do

[severe meadow]

CDs in execute, go crazy

[turbid yacht]

Although I also want to ask why it's so dumpster if haste increase tick rates and is a fairly good stat for sin?

[balmy condor]

well it's just strictly better for everyone else

[coral ibex]

our cpm basically doesn't change at all because our gcd is always 1s

[balmy condor]

like it's buffing your tick rate on bleeds

and increasing attack speed

and that's kinda it right

haste being a good stat, and being a good class for a haste steroid

are not the same thing

you don't need energy during deathmark for example

[turbid yacht]

I only really play sin, so what's it doing for the other classes?

[balmy condor]

reducing GCD

reducing cds

cast speed

[mortal crag]

Chuck it on the monk/warlock

[turbid yacht]

I honestly did not know that haste did those things for other classes.

[balmy condor]

yeh

as an energy class, our GCD is locked at 1s

[coral ibex]

non-energy classes have gcd's that are affected by haste

[balmy condor]

the only reason PI is good on monk is cause they have haste scaling built directly into their talents

like there's a talent that just says does extra damage based on haste or whatever

[turbid yacht]

I was actually ABOUT to ask why monks get cracked out their gills

[balmy condor]

so during their cds, it cranks

windwalker is an outlier in that regard

[mortal crag]

I thought it reduced their channel too

[balmy condor]

yeh fists channel as well

[turbid yacht]

I just found where Brewmaster is on the PI chart lol

[mortal crag]

I don’t play with any ww so my knowledge is low

[turbid yacht]

The other energy monk

Thank you for the detailed explanation; I will still beg my priest for PI as I was meant to do

[balmy condor]

well brew is also a tank

but yeh

we're in outlaw territory

[turbid yacht]

Zoldyck's Recipe kinda slaps on those DoTs though....

That Zoldyck guy has some sick brews

[untold fractal]

Should you pool energy before single kingsbane casts (without dm)?

[balmy condor]

not really a brew guy

[balmy condor]

no

[untold fractal]

Aren't more envenom casts in kingsbane window == more DPS? Or is it gone now

[balmy condor]

no shiv

[main bobcat]

put the keg in the bag

[rugged basalt]

Labrewbu

I miss me shiv..

[blazing totem]

I miss me Vendetta

[crude helm]

I miss being able to choose what target my bleeds spread to

[blazing totem]

why, you dont like your bleeds going to the 1 hp guys in pit?

[main bobcat]

labrewbu is a crazy name

[onyx veldt]

ayeee

late to the party but still

[rugged basalt]

Nice

[frigid wing]

how many enemies should have my bleeds on them before i stop trying to apply them with crimson tempest?

[balmy condor]

all of them

[frigid wing]

and how bad is it for us if we push CT and get 5+ combo then spend on envenom? I know its not something we control but ideally we would want to hit low so we can get 2-3 CT off before we press envenom?

[balmy condor]

what

[severe meadow]

Envenom when you hit 5+ cp

[balmy condor]

if you get to 5cp you finish

[rugged basalt]

Mmfmfg.

Do I envenom though

[balmy condor]

are you at 5cp or higher lans

where are you spiritually

[runic hinge]

Brainrot has hit and everyone thinks you ct and ignore envenom despite that never being the case

Maybe it was the case for the first week? I don’t remember. Lack of sleep might be my slow death

[balmy condor]

you're just old I think

[runic hinge]

That’s true

But I am also tired

[rugged basalt]

Yesterday I was at a strong 1, I’m feeling a 5 now..

I used to run around and only apply bleeds on every target in tww for half the fight

Sometimes I hit ct

[frosty cedar]

those two days it was thought to be good has done irreparable damage to the public psyche lmao

[runic hinge]

Casual bringing it up in max’s tier list, despite it getting fixed before the next reset still reverberating

[buoyant herald]

I had this same conversation in here yesterday

It was a “maybe?” For like a day

And yet here we are

[reef flower]

Comp wise in high keys, is it better to find different damages profiles? Like one funnel, one flat and a last more bursty? Or it doesn't really matter?
Asking this cause i've a hard time choosing between assa and outlaw

funnel isnt the opposite to flat or bursty btw

[runic hinge]

Depends on what your group needs

[buoyant herald]

You can easily play both

[lavish peak]

It’s more about making up for weaknesses than it is about having different strengths

If you have 3 specs with bad single target, it doesn’t really matter if their aoe is good or their damage profiles are different, bosses will still take too long

If you have a consistent group it might make sense to pick the spec that fits the comp better, but if you’re pugging just play the spec you enjoy more. You don’t have to have a perfect comp to time keys, it just makes things more convenient

[sharp viper]

hi also tired, I'm dad

[runic hinge]

Wow you’re back from the dead??

[sharp viper]

Oh crap, forgot the milk, brb

[static glacier]

Only thing I’d say is avoid running multiple specs with the same weaknesses that aren’t covered then an Aug as 3rd dps, doesn’t really fix things

[junior goblet]

is pooling to extend your implacable window really worth? im testign on a target dummy and maybe im doing it wrong but im doing more dmg just sending envenoms as fast as possible

[iron thorn]

just send envenoms until it feels right to let implac drop

aka when you won't overcap energy from letting it drop

[junior goblet]

gotcha, thank you 🙂

[jade abyss]

When you go into a big pull its normal that all what i do is press ct into envenom? It feels i have no time to press fok bcs when i spread all my bleeds and im done i have to refresh them and spread them again

[normal mist]

Sounds about right

[severe meadow]

It’s fine, big pulls you have infinite energy and can spam CT more

CT does good damage itself

[jade abyss]

Ct spreads the poisons aswell right?

[spice surge]

No

But CT can apply poisons

[lusty kraken]

does caustic spatter cleave around your target or around yourself (like bladeflurry)?

[spice surge]

target

[autumn sierra]

Do we have Haste breakpoints for Assa too?

[spice surge]

no

[autumn sierra]

So basically can "trust" the sims with gear and flask choices

I do not have to look manually that I reach 700 with guidon or so, like I had to with Sub 🙂

[spice surge]

You can do that for all specs, but yes

[autumn sierra]

If I did that with Sub, I would run around with 550 haste

even when turning off oils etc.

[strange onyx]

Hej crew

[jade abyss]

Thats what i meant ty

[lusty kraken]

wasn't it around you if the target had a huge hitbox? or did they change it

[spice surge]

Kind of yes

[blazing totem]

let's say there is a caster mob right outside of the big pack with your spatter on it, is there any benefit in standing close to that caster mob so spatter hits him?

if you can still hit your spattered mob but it wont reach the caster

[analog field]

No this could apply only for huge bosses like gally etc

[turbid thistle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[silk merlin]

gotta love this buggy mess xd

[royal lantern]

Screen Captured

[tight ginkgo]

bro it is over

they've captured.... your screen

[deft escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-agent-gif-17540199569095667102

[patent leaf]

For sin rogue, do we focus biggest hp pool and cleave down the rest or is it okay to like throw everything at a dangerous caster mob and then clean up big guy after? I’ve seen high key players doing both but it feels like it’s better to focus the most dangerous mobs even if it dies a little before DM finishes

[analog field]

never send CD's on smaller mobs

[fresh kelp]

usually if you're focusing something that isn't the highest health mob its precommed by the group and either A: you will wipe if it doesnt die fast enough or B: you can chain once it dies

[patent leaf]

🫡

[analog field]

What are the A cases?

[fresh kelp]

Voidcaller in seat

[spice surge]

Small voidmen in seat if you dont have a warlock

[analog field]

voidcaller is the big one no ?

[fresh kelp]

dragonhawk in windrunner

[fresh kelp]

no "bound voidcaller"

[lavish peak]

One example I can think of is the lynx pull in Windrunner spire. Time efficiency wise you want to kill the lynx, but the caster ghost presents the actual danger of the pull

[analog field]

Yeah but you don't need to kill as you can interrupt

[lavish peak]

The debuff they put out is the dangerous part

[analog field]

Also the dragonhawk you just chain cc

I mean it is not realistic to send cd's on them

[fresh kelp]

warlock imp dispel

[lavish peak]

Even with warlock imp dispel your healer has to deal with the poisons from the spiders

The less things that can overlap with the lynx jump the better, that pull eats groups alive

[fresh kelp]

we only did 20 but didn't have trouble with double magic dispel double poison dispel

[lavish peak]

Yeah if you have the tools to deal with it it’s not necessary to focus the faster, same as banish with the little void guys

Caster*

[worn geyser]

another one is arcane familiar in MT, the overlap of that + the arcane golem knock or the glaive dot is nasty

those little guys fuck

[signal lynx]

switching from sub to assassin for mythic + higher keys, whats the best talent tree fatebound or deathstalker ???

[coral ibex]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Guides:

• WoWhead - by Whispyr
• Method - by Whispyr
• Icy Veins - by Seliathan

[slim pebble]

Are we getting anything special today or just a random 4 hour maintenance for no reason

[wide berry]

I imagine those servers are probably a pain in the ass to maintain

Probably something on their back end

[weary stump]

You will get a new bug where mutilate doesn't do damage or something

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Likely prep for new raid

[upbeat sail]

New raid coming out today/tommorow?

[spice surge]

No

[night delta]

What's the timetable for 12.0.7 ?

or previsional if we don't have anything concrete

[fickle tiger]

4h maintenance xD

[night delta]

👀

oh, it's now ?!

I thought that would be a 12.0.7 thing

I just reached cap this week lol

[royal lantern]

reset is tomorrow

[night delta]

well by now I mean this next reset

[severe sparrow]

im confused, isnt reset today, if you're US anyway?

but also

damn it now i have to go do a bunch of keys

[hazy sundial]

Ive been on a vacation for 10 days and last week i didn’t get to grab 2 bonus rolls. When i come home tomorrow will i be able to pick up 4x bonus rolls?

[night delta]

No sure about it but since they implemented a seasonal cap

I would... assume yes ?

[spice spire]

Yes

[vernal adder]

zac will eat rolls for sure

[coral ibex]

[fallow canopy]

lfr cloak for xmog

[coral ibex]

i think i take the wedding ring and then go bonus roll the crit/haste npx ring

[worn geyser]

damn mythic beloran ring kinda nice tho

[golden loom]

Kinda feels like you want to have lura ring to use beloren ring

[coral ibex]

i have the haste/mastery npx ring already

might be a good combo with the belo ring

ill have to sim it later

[golden loom]

I rolled the mastery npx ring also so I am just gonna end up using the set

Simmed better than wedding ring + crit npx ring atleast

[worn geyser]

ye prolly, the beloran ring still sims highest for me on hero even without it but idk i swear my robot loves crit over haste more than it should

i use wedding myth + beloran hero rn

[onyx veldt]

Ah right

i hate my life man

[kindred breach]

you'll get it with bonus rolls !!

sending luck

[onyx veldt]

tyy

[vernal adder]

you will get it

[severe sparrow]

the npx rings are minorly troll if ever doing open world stuff ime

nothing like the orb thing spawning right as you kill the last mob and want to mount and fly off

and then it flies into some vaguely on screen mob you werent in combat with becuase you werent in combat with anything

[tame flame]

belo ring ig

[lament bolt]

Yes. You can catch up to the seasonal cap on bonus rolls. I got several weeks worth at once on some lesser played alts

[onyx veldt]

damn

that worked

ig

[plain thistle]

k we done i guess, now just lura ring to replace the crafted one and gg, socket next week for the belt

lura ring 0.2% upgrade, same for vorasius ring

[night summit]

When do I hit puzzle box in openings? Raid and mythic+?

[coral ibex]

before cds

check the wowhead guide

[night summit]

Doesn’t say in wowhead guide but thanks

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

Me when I lie

[night summit]

Thanks for posting where did you find it on wowhead

[stuck lodge]

probably in the opener

[waxen oyster]

Me when I can't spend more than 10 seconds on the guide

[stuck lodge]

where you would use it

[balmy condor]

It’s in the opener yeah

[digital elk]

I like to use it in the finisher

Line it up so the cast ends as my target dies

[night summit]

Found it thanks everyone

[balmy condor]

Well you also have a deathstalker pfp so I assume somethings wrong with you

That makes sense

[digital elk]

Lol

[stuck lodge]

I like to use KB and DM on the 1% HP prio mob

[waxen oyster]

[stuck lodge]

to really kill em

[potent oracle]

when am i usually supposed to pop cloak

[waxen oyster]

This reminds me

[balmy condor]

When you’re in the poop and gonna die

or idk

[waxen oyster]

when whispyr posted that metric

[balmy condor]

For fun

[waxen oyster]

of where people spend time

on the guide

[rocky holly]

the opener is usually where i finish things 💪

[balmy condor]

I should call her…

[night summit]

Didn’t know I had to scroll to the left

[balmy condor]

You shouldn’t have to scroll anywhere why are we scrolling

[waxen oyster]

This is the biggest self report of not leaving the first page.

💀

[rocky holly]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-gif-21632760

[balmy condor]

Oh maybe mobile gaming

[digital elk]

Mobile? I'm on mobile

Maybe a tiger wristwatch

[balmy condor]

Pics or what

Tiger wristwatch sounds sick

[hollow stream]

@plain thistle Which addon is that for your Character screen? Its nice

[digital elk]

Which way do I scroll to see the aoe priority?

[waxen oyster]

bro only has 3 tabs

[worn geyser]

wowhead on mobile is cursed

[waxen oyster]

what the larp

[digital elk]

Same even on my work computer I try to make bookmarks instead of tabs

[worn geyser]

it should show like this

[digital elk]

I'm trolling, sorry

Ty though

[plain thistle]

chonky character sheet

you can make it very.... chonky if you want

[hollow stream]

Thanks~

[coral ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6bCN6rLfrr3h7TXYZUMFvw

wedding ring + crit/haste npx ring

[coral ibex]

belo ring poop

no haste

on the other hand im scheduled for a lura kill tn and what if i get the ring...

im def not getting the ring

[worn geyser]

wedding ring js never a bad choice i feel

[coral ibex]

sim says just get myth version of what i have rn

i need a myth helmet to drop too

[worn geyser]

im surprised it beats it by 500 dps almost when you dont have that much crit really

[coral ibex]

dont have that much crit?

i have so much crit

[worn geyser]

whats ur crit unbuffed

[coral ibex]

this is completely unbuffed

[fallen charm]

yooo new build op

[worn geyser]

yeah like, i have 1460 buffed and just now its finally wanting me to swap to haste gems for like .1%

thats with belo ring also so my haste is kinda low

[analog field]

yeah 1100 crit is not much

[worn geyser]

but maybe i just suck at simming and should recraft some shit idk ive tried a bunch of combos but my robot loves the crit

[royal lantern]

bro

i have 44%

wdym "so much"

the answer is

you have puzzlebox

which "removes" some value from mastery

cus puzzlebox gives you a billion mastery during your main dmg window

thats why rn everything goes so extremely crit/haste focused

next season without puzzlebox it will probably be more balanced again

[coral ibex]

ok i just resimmed my current gear and all the other rings i have that could give me more crit and it says this is the best

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kTWFFezpkP8FPbiUcYjzxz

[royal lantern]

unless there is some giga stat trinket again

[coral ibex]

[worn geyser]

i would trust the robot for sure

[coral ibex]

i could optimize my pants

every other slot is primary crit

or my 4p

[worn geyser]

might be that ur double acuity and not berzerker rage so it values haste alot higher

[coral ibex]

oh my cloak kinda sucks

and i got an awful cloak from bonus rolls

[worn geyser]

unlucky, i have the crit vers one from pit rolling at least ur fast

[worn geyser]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jZk26aZSDGGKNz2tr3ZPCC tried to run mine also, but couldnt top gear the nxp ring so just simmed recraft helm to haste/ haste gems vs crit gems mine is ran in lura loadout tho since i cant /simc from mobile

[buoyant herald]

sadge but also happy

[onyx veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-sleepy-making-faces-gif-15803927170313152988

[wild basin]

is there a good tricks addon?

[balmy condor]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[wild basin]

ooh thanks!

[worn geyser]

im gonna ask a dumb question unfortunately, but like why does the !fuu gear for sin have so much vers? also separately is the sheet supposed to be like a this is pinnacle bis if u did have every single piece there?

[balmy condor]

fuu just be simmin stuff idk

[worn geyser]

my robot for my character does not like vers that much but ive tried altering the fuu input via top gear and it still likes the vers so idk brain hurt

[viscid spear]

Sir/ma'am, this is Assassination Chat

[balmy condor]

ignore spreadsheet

become ungovernable

[viscid spear]

[spice surge]

Vantus rune gives a lot of vers

[viscid spear]

Play the spec anyway, style on the haters

[buoyant herald]

Ignore spreadsheet, return to robote

[balmy condor]

like I assume he's simming bis

but idk what he sims

sheet is just there as a reference idk

idk what you would need to reference, but it's a reference

[viscid spear]

The problem I see a lot with these new users popping in and asking questions is that they consider the list perfect, like they have to have everything on the list.

[worn geyser]

ah this might be part of it when looking at the simc report, but ye it just his gearset had alot less crit than my sim seems to want

[balmy condor]

lucky ain't new

[worn geyser]

i was mostly wondering for fun since u can guarantee a ‘bis’ with bonus rolls eventually

[balmy condor]

sim stacks, be it between the specs of a class or between every spec in the game

has just melted the collective community brain

into a slush

[viscid spear]

Also got one of the Xenas rings on a roll last week and was able to complete the set, now today I have this in my vault

[viscid spear]

Then they should know better

Anyway, looks like a bonus roll currency option

[worn geyser]

i trust my little robot, i just was curious as to like the point of the sheet and also kinda why his stats seemed so different than what my robot wants for me

[viscid spear]

You don't mean AMR, right?

[worn geyser]

[balmy condor]

great question

I have no answers to either

[worn geyser]

ye its all good ima just keep doing what my robot wants

[viscid spear]

Robots are taking over Ravenholdt! I better call Moroes

[storm forum]

!8 have robots taken over Ravenholdt?

[plain thistle]

YES!!!

[radiant otter]

i was wondering this last week and tried but can't replicate that sim (it's like 118k vs ~113k when i try similar gear). but the choices are bizarre for sure, it's definitely like deepblue chess lines compared to anything a human would ever pick. it has crit/vers helm and then random crit/mastery pieces

almost positive he just sims that .txt file with basically all gear and that's the one that came out the winner but whenever i've tried simming that set on my character versus equivalent gear that i have it's worse

[worn geyser]

ye he does run panda + vantus so if i sim normally through top gear i cant reach same for my char. the gear like is weird but i can kinda get down with it, the pieces are like crit mast to make room for the haste heavy voidspire neck i suppose, but he def still has more mastery than my own character wants he even uses mastery flask

i cant like 1:1 replicate on my char since im on mobile but i think it like kinda makes sense, its not like its out of this world different but it definitely was enough to make me a bit confused since my sim is still liking crit up to ~1400 and his only has 1100

i did try to run a top gear compare earlier tho to see if any pieces got better than his sim and like top gear shows .2% upgrade changing helm but the overall dps is lower https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qGpJbmELYmsgqqGdpQuBJn

[radiant otter]

yeah i can see it making sense but i think it's too bizarre for a person to come up with swapping out a v/m tier helm and c/h pieces for a c/v nontier helm and c/m belt + boots on their own

[balmy condor]

I can tell you he for sure just brute forces every combo

[radiant otter]

robot for me is happy with similar things but would prefer lura ring or in my case the bad npx set ring to complete the set

but like i said i can't replicate the numbers his has and trying out anything similar through a topgear on my own doesn't like those choices either

[worn geyser]

ye idk ima just stack crit to the moon till i stop getting low combo point openers where i have to double mut

[clear knoll]

is there a best setting to run sims somewhere here on discord?

[spice surge]

default

[coral ibex]

patchwerk 1t 5m or dungeonslice

[clear knoll]

yall like using the nexus point rings together?

[spice surge]

Its a decent option yes

[balmy condor]

it's not necessarily the best