assassination

[balmy condor]

In the age of AI summary everything and short form content everywhere, we’re trying to thrive as a human-written news site for a video game

Paying someone 5 hours to write a long detailed news post simply doesn’t work anymore

People click on it, see it’s long, and click off

It’s the same reason traditional journalism like the New York Times is struggling to adapt

Except they couldn’t keep posting long news stories with integrity for free on the internet

So they paywalled it instead

[cinder mountain]

Its awesome

Not in low keys tho

[storm forum]

Even in low keys imo

[lime edge]

I do all my weekly keys on sin

Unless u meant even lower than that

[waxen oyster]

tiktok attention spans

[jolly stirrup]

sure

Group 1 down

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FP7G26CQgZDxcHMB?fight=57&type=damage-done

[shy axle]

did you bother with ct or just splatter and rest pure st?

[pure moth]

Thanks. Ill compare when im home... but its something prob stupid im missing.

[jolly stirrup]

I did use CT

[rugged basalt]

You do have to CT on chim

[mellow haven]

Is there a way to find out what casters u can cc beside kick? Like for example kidney, cheap, etc. Feels like everything in M+ is immune.

[random pelican]

Level 90- can stun
Level 91- can't stun

Thats been mostly consistent for me

Might be outdated tho, there may be cases that are exceptions

[mellow haven]

Ah, I’ll check that. Playing basically since this expansion and working my way to 3k atm. Thought its rogues „job“ to cc as much as possible if u wanna push higher keys?!

[random pelican]

Its everyones job, rogues have decent options to

[mellow haven]

Feels like there is not much kicking from lots players in 10-12 keys.

[sharp viper]

or using defensives

[grim jay]

thats because 10-12 is still very much in the casual range

[random pelican]

At this point in the season people are carried through 10-12s by gear alone yeah

[analog field]

Yeah not kicking a single cast is fine to time a 10

maybe krick only?

[worn geyser]

i dont kick in my weekly 12s cause i cant be bothered to change my lura kick macro its honestly fine unless healer is getting polymorph or something

[sacred oyster]

"lura kick macro" wat

[subtle tundra]

these are crazy comms

[worn geyser]

"/use [@boss2, exists] Kick" or @boss3, or etc, makes it so your kick is sent only on your assigned crystal

[sacred oyster]

but you know keybinds are different for raid vs mythics lol

[subtle tundra]

you use a kick macro yes

[worn geyser]

my keybinds are the same

[subtle tundra]

but not changing it is crazy comms

[sacred oyster]

when you switch talents you can put normal kick in same slot, then it would engage that for raid

[worldly sail]

using shared bars is bis

[sacred oyster]

but you could prob a djust that to still fallback to normal kick

[worn geyser]

nah i use shared bars

and have my bars off, so its annoying to swap it back

[worldly sail]

but i just use a focus boss target instead of kicking boss target on lura

[worn geyser]

2 button is bis but i got too used to this one already fuck it

and ye idk, 12s u can get through without kicking once though np, just kidney blind is fine enough for stuff that actually matters the stuff dies insta anyway

[real pike]

I only ever kick in non push keys when the cast is coming at me ngl

[blazing totem]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/unfortunately-i-died-but-i-survived-ice-age-buck-crash-gif-17916310

[thorn thorn]

@severe meadow

[severe meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486284970806083584/1486152563371016261/00-4x.gif

[thorn thorn]

we can swear again

[severe meadow]

Saved

[thorn thorn]

https://imgur.com/2pkvABb

[analog field]

You change it once in your m bars and it stays only for m bars

[worn geyser]

i use shared bars

cause the hassle of them being mix matched and how that interacts with other talent sets annoys me greatly

[analog field]

Yeah but they changed automatically? I thought I use shared bars too, but when I change something to one load out it doesn't change in the others

[runic hinge]

What spec he playin

[thorn thorn]

Aug

[analog field]

Still in raid for example having deathmark with pot and in m not could be helpful

[worn geyser]

well, I just have a separate pot keybind, tbh i have found no use other than this lura kick thing for non-shared bars

like anything i would want in m+ i probably want bound that way in raid also for a similar reason right

but ye idk i should just make a specific separate keybind only for the lura macro tho rather than being lazy and just swapping it over my regular kick

[analog field]

I mean you are saying this but then not have a kick xd

I agree that you don't need not shared bars 99% of the time

[worn geyser]

well not like ive not 2 chested any of my weekly 12s due to it so seems i dont need it really

fuck it lura dies soon anyway and i can get my regular kick back gg

[analog field]

You can unbound every hotkey for your weekly 12 though

[worn geyser]

true, idk it dont really matter, just was too lazy to swap 1 bind around since i keep my bars hidden and dont use non-shared bars

[violet hemlock]

Aug didn't exist back then tho...

[royal lantern]

blessed time

[thorn thorn]

The seeds of evil were planted far before it bore fruit

[violet hemlock]

I mean the spec pictured is bm hunter if I can read the bars correctly. So not really much diff in skill expression.

[thorn thorn]

Im not sure what that means

Oh

Ya basically

[humble verge]

ok ok ok

rox

since im 3 for 3 on hof this tier

you think adding that to my tinder bio will help me get women

[balmy condor]

I think adding it to your tinder bio will help you get less women

[humble verge]

i mean that helps too

[crude helm]

Lura at 2%

2 more days surely 🙂

[steel geyser]

2% p3 or p4

[crude helm]

P3

I know it’s jinxing it but p4 looks pretty easy if everyone takes a deep breath

Just gotta get there

We had boss at 3% after the 2nd move and the crystal person tried to go back for someone who was left behind

It was a travesty

[thorn thorn]

I think if you add anything to your tinder bio about wow you instantly lose 100 rizz

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-run-running-run-away-gif-11523384820060869343

[royal lantern]

it probably puts you on a list

[tight ginkgo]

what about grindr or sniffies tho

[spice spire]

What’s that second one big dog,

[tight ginkgo]

iykyk

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-baike-gif-21810383

[severe meadow]

Good, I want more men

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-peak-cinema-absolute-cinema-gif-2419960068189387292

[autumn sierra]

if I have a normal garrote on, which is approaching pandemic window and I vanish + Garrote, do I have now an improved on the target or do I need to let it run out? 😮

[balmy condor]

it overwrites with the improved garrote

[knotty vapor]

@balmy condor I just logged into d4 and I have nobody to ask this to... I haven't played since release and my sorc is gemmed with full strength. Why did I do that?

was that a thing?

[balmy condor]

no clue

but they did rework gems

kinda

well, since release

so reworked 3x since then

I would assume probably fucked shit

[haughty flicker]

i think ur just dumb

[knotty vapor]

I guess something got lost in translation then

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

Why mean

[haughty flicker]

im never mean

[knotty vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-26293326

[thorn thorn]

[haughty flicker]

its ok im just salty they nerfed tp

[thorn thorn]

tp?

[haughty flicker]

toilet paper

teleport

sorc could teleport around basically perma

they fixed a bug that was allowing that

now i sad

[knotty vapor]

trying to remember what the fuck my build was without any abilities on my bar and my skill points reset is makign this game difficult...

[thorn thorn]

No swearing

According to big B

[haughty flicker]

reported

[knotty vapor]

what the fricking heck my build was*

[balmy condor]

well

if you haven't played in 2 years

your build probably sucks and or doesn't exist anymore

[knotty vapor]

very likely

it clearly had something to do with this and frost nova

[balmy condor]

that sounds cooked

but I'm no sorc player

[thorn thorn]

Necromancer supremecy

[knotty vapor]

good lord, I put burn on them, froze with frost nova, then spammed electricity shit

I remember this now

I hated this shit so much I quit

god damn it

[thorn thorn]

[knotty vapor]

it was so clunky and the gear felt so stupid

[thorn thorn]

My brother in christ you made the sandwich

[knotty vapor]

but it was the best build in like week 4 lmao

[haughty flicker]

its ok now you just pick literally any shock spell and press unstable currents

and profit

[knotty vapor]

yeah that seems to be the case when I look at builds online

[haughty flicker]

blizzard build

[knotty vapor]

just 1000 different UC builds

[haughty flicker]

looks inside

unstable currents

ice shards

looks inside

unstable currents

[knotty vapor]

I've exclusively played sorc since d3 release... might just abandon and try something else finally

maybe melee classes are fun with wasd movement now

[severe meadow]

Monk in D3..

[knotty vapor]

actually that was my first ever character

but I abandoned it pretty quick

[thorn thorn]

witchdoctor

[balmy condor]

which doctor?

[knotty vapor]

spider jars

[thorn thorn]

this one

[knotty vapor]

[oak ember]

Does the crit meta gem outscale the flat stat one at max sockets?

[balmy condor]

nah

[knotty vapor]

how sad

[thorn thorn]

watch deez nuts

gottem

[knotty vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[nimble tartan]

anyone else love heroes of the storm aram

[thorn thorn]

I am a heroes of the storm enjoyer

[knotty vapor]

i booted that game once a year ago, sat in queue for 30 mins for a regular match, then closed it

I seem to recall the character I played I was like 49-1 w/l

x d

my ancient mmr never decayed, now i have nobody to play with

[thorn thorn]

I cant remember the last time we had a queue time longer than 2 minutes

[haughty flicker]

same

[knotty vapor]

must be nice

[haughty flicker]

but thats bc ive never queued for a game in hots

[thorn thorn]

Just play quick match

[knotty vapor]

lmao

[thorn thorn]

and sprint down every game so your mmr drops

[haughty flicker]

i think hots came out and died before i even started playing mobas

otherwise i wouldve tried it

[thorn thorn]

they are doing work on it again

[fallow canopy]

hots is nice

[jovial cradle]

Just play deadlock fr

[fallow canopy]

unlucky that it didn't pop off

[knotty vapor]

2023 apparently ... so 3 years ago, not 1

[thorn thorn]

When deadlock doesnt have their current champ system I will play it

But I will not play it simply because I fundamentally disagree with that system

[haughty flicker]

wait i can play as valeera

maybe i was too harsh on hots

[knotty vapor]

yeah thats why I played it lmao

[storm forum]

I miss HotS

I only got into it right at the end of its life

Like I hit diamond the night before blizz said they were killing it

[jovial cradle]

So fucking real

Its not the worst but like its not good either

Cant wait till the game releases in 2028 with a better queue system

[royal lantern]

the only good moba

[thorn thorn]

[thorn thorn]

Botspyr?

[humble verge]

idk

[hazy sundial]

Hots died because lack of “carry” in my opinion. League is popular because you can 1v5 and be a hero and make a montage

[thorn thorn]

Im not sure its actually dead anymore

They started doing actual changes recently

That arent just hehe number change

Most significant of such is the keeps and forts no longer prioritizing heroes that damage other heroes under them

which is certainly a change

[haughty flicker]

i assume those are towers

so you can just like

tower dive for free?

that seems weird

[thorn thorn]

ya pretty much

Idk why they would change that

[radiant aspen]

so new boss have shroomling and fungling adds

?

[balmy condor]

https://raidplan.io/plan/z3ttzd8q3f23rjrr

pretend that they're mushroom fucks

3 mechanics and aoe blaster fight gg

[radiant aspen]

dude im shrigma male alr

[balmy condor]

the shriggest

[radiant aspen]

im rarest type of male on earth

look how good i am

[balmy condor]

crazy style

[radiant aspen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-sigma-tuff-0GznKQsfVsEzHNElzm

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439724942227931249/1504602514698276984/artkjd.gif

[nimble tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-brain-rot-ai-side-eye-gif-711440987077841595

[radiant aspen]

https://imgur.com/EVRehLn

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798476844487540756/1497952178986418326/Zyldra.gif

[clear knoll]

So little boy weeklies talents we dont need Amplifying poison

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

idk what that means im ngl

[clear knoll]

oh theres talent build called tiny boy weekly keys. i was just seeing why it doesnt have amplifying poison but im guessing lower just dont need it

[balmy condor]

it probably takes numbing instead

but it really shouldn't matter

numbing is less tank damage, atrophic is 3.6% less everything

[thorn thorn]

Isnt amplifying poison the one in the spec tree

[balmy condor]

it's a choice node with numbing

but like, if you're doing tiny weekly keys

[thorn thorn]

isnt that crippling poison

[balmy condor]

does it really matter

crippling poison is baseline

[thorn thorn]

Oh atrophic ya

[balmy condor]

oh AMPLIFYING

[thorn thorn]

R u good boss

[gilded oasis]

cant hold all these poisons

[balmy condor]

dawg I thought we were arguing about atrophic

I didn't even consider amplifying

the weekly key build doesn't take dragon tempered blades

so you wouldn't be able to use it anyway

just slipped my mind that it could be an option

[thorn thorn]

Dementiaspyr

[balmy condor]

it's a sudden demise build

[thorn thorn]

Too many poisons

[fallow canopy]

too many m's

[thorn thorn]

too many whats

[balmy condor]

you know what I thought about the other day

M&M's

could just be shortened to M's

like if it were an apple company

it would be Apple&Apple's

could just say Apples

and leave it

like why are we double Ming

does that make sense?

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320599387566506065/1326573955774939277/media-iv-text.gif

[fallow canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320599387566506065/1326573955774939277/media-iv-text.gif

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-silly-cats-mango-mango-juice-monster-energy-gif-9451278639858834322

[marsh fjord]

M&M is called M&M because of the owner names marshal mathers i did a thesis on this many years ago

[balmy condor]

good one

[marsh fjord]

Im not joking 😄

[balmy condor]

M&M is mars and murrie, no?

[fallow canopy]

unless eminem founded M&M

[balmy condor]

eminem did not found m&m

[fallow canopy]

obviously

[marsh fjord]

eminem did found m&m

what you guys talking about

[balmy condor]

I feel like I'm getting fucking gaslit right now

[fallow canopy]

[marsh fjord]

you cant say the f word according to blizzard anymore

[fallow canopy]

numbers is a known master baiter

[marsh fjord]

or have you guys not following the drama of yesterday/today

[thorn thorn]

No swearing according to daddy B

[balmy condor]

PJ being PJ

needing to get slapped again by his boss

and his statement walked back

shit happens

[marsh fjord]

i remember how good costumer service of blizzard was back in the day

[thorn thorn]

By the clanker incharge of this circus

[little current]

is there some sort of bug rn

like, my opener is doing so much less damage

and im doing way less damage, doing the same rotation

like, my highest was 80k~ or so dps on vorasius

oh wait

i was looking at overall

im fine

ughhhhh

i hate grinding so much in wow

also yeah

eminem made m&m

's

[marsh fjord]

Yeah he for sure did

[fossil loom]

!fan

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok/Generator Conditions in Midnight
Always finish on 5+ combo points, or go to maximum with Darkest Night Envenom

• Crimson Tempest -> until all targets have bleeds
• Fan of Knives -> 2+ targets, or 3+ if talented into blindside
• Mutilate/Ambush otherwise

[storm forum]

this is an evil breakdown

[buoyant herald]

jeez what was that a +4?

[storm forum]

12

i just got an even better one in a 14

SD is a dumb and evil talent

[buoyant herald]

what on earth are the other dps doing that lets you get that much SD

im usually sitting around 8-10% when i play it

[storm forum]

i was actually not the highest on that one

[buoyant herald]

that seems crazy, you must be SDmaxxing surel;y

[storm forum]

yeah

ofc

[buoyant herald]

still crazy %

i don't think its an evil talent, it definitely serves a very real purpose

definitely just a shade of the fun stuff you could do with bleed build in tww tho sadly

shivving in execute for SD damage rip

[latent kernel]

Is there like a sure fire way to tell if evasion will work on something or not?

[balmy condor]

nop

[latent kernel]

Bc some shi I dodge and it makes sense and. Then other stuff I think it’ll make me dodged and I get clapped

[balmy condor]

dodge is a fun mechanic like that

[analog hedge]

just wondering why do we just puzzle box + pot before dm

why not just puzzle , pot then the opener( gar mut etc)

is it because pzb is only 20s and kb wont get the full dur?

[balmy condor]

you don't actually do any damage until you press dm/kb

you'd just buff nothing

[analog hedge]

hmm, just making sure then cause i might have been doing it wrong

for the specific fight

of nxp 2nd boss on light phase

[balmy condor]

well for that you would set up before the amp

and then puzzle + pot as the amp comes out

then rip dm/kb

[analog hedge]

u still use the standard opener (puzzle box etc after poison) or can i just puzzle and pot while lothraxion prepare to jump

ah okay

[balmy condor]

but like for reference

this is the first 15 seconds of a st opener

very visually clear where you press kb, and why you wouldn't want to box beforehand

[analog hedge]

aight ive been playing it wrong then

k k ill fix that

i deviated from the opener for that specific fight, gotta fix that ig

[balmy condor]

you were pressing box like 5 seconds before the amp or what

[analog hedge]

yea pressed both box and pot while loth appeared

[quiet star]

So there will be no tuning updates for next week?

[potent oracle]

assa feels so fun compared to sub wish its raid dmg wasnt poopoo and was competitve

[jovial cradle]

I miss old sub

[alpine elm]

Is there any optimsl stat ratios for assassination? Specifically for M+

[balmy condor]

no

it's too dependant on the pulls and the dungeons

bigger aoe -> more mastery

smaller aoe -> more haste

sim dungeonslice for a middle ground average to start from

[alpine elm]

Thanks cheif, I did yesterday but it keeps advicing me to stack a bunch of crit while already being at 1250+ crit

[balmy condor]

yep

[alpine elm]

Feels scuffed

[balmy condor]

that makes sense

you hard stack crit forever

haste/mastery are the variables

[alpine elm]

Ye

I was kinda expecting a dropoff

But guess not

[balmy condor]

crit is just the everything stat, fatebound makes it even better, dashing scoundrel makes it give energy

can't go wrong with the everything stat

[alpine elm]

Hahaha

True

I think I will get just a little bit more haste, feels so much better

[balmy condor]

yeah honestly won't matter much

[analog hedge]

whisp

actually nvm

[balmy condor]

good chat glad to help

[analog hedge]

nah im still wondering whats the ideal play on nxp 2nd boss

so vanish gar rup mut gar when he spawned, move out, stun landed, pot puzzle, rip dm kb right

[balmy condor]

vanish + garrote whenever before, refresh rupture if needed
box like 2.5 second before the amp
dm 1s before the amp, kingsbane first gcd

that's it

toss in an envenom before the dm or the box for the start of kb

potion with dm or kb doesn't matter

as long as box/imp gar happens before and lasts the full amp

and kingsbane is either the first or second gcd on the amp

that's all you can do

[analog hedge]

aah k k ill try that then 🙏

ill send u my feet pic in dm as a thanks

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-devil-diabolique-evil-gif-9725651736562738158

[analog hedge]

💀 💀

[balmy condor]

you think I bought a mirrorless camera

so I can take portraits of my gf like this?

brother I'm soft launching a feet pic collection

[analog hedge]

OH NAW 😭 😭 😭

[balmy condor]

go big or go home

I don't half ass limp dick anything

100% effort 100% hard

[zinc frost]

Idk why but this photo makes me think you guys are sleeping in bunk beds

[balmy condor]

it's the handrail on the stairs

[zinc frost]

I like my bunk bed theory better

[ruby idol]

first upgrade MAIN hand then offhand or mainhand > gaze?

[golden loom]

mainhand -> box -> gaze -> offhand but it doesnt matter cause they are uncapped

[runic hinge]

main hand trinkets offhand

[golden loom]

so u upgrade all

[ruby idol]

yy i know but just so i know the order

ty 😄

[sharp viper]

hella cute portrait

almost as cute as you uwu

[sharp viper]

how big is your folder of reaction gifs

[balmy condor]

MONEY TALKS 🔥
HÄH ❓
MONEY TALKS 🔥
BRRRRRR 📠
DIRTY CASH I WANT YOU 😩 😩 😩
DIRTY CASH I NEED YOU 🤑 🤑 🤑

[humble verge]

are you ok

[balmy condor]

No

[balmy condor]

Ty have another

[random fossil]

Gawdamn

[dire flume]

i sure hope the feet are soft

[little current]

i bet she knows that eminem made M&M's

[subtle tundra]

lucky her she has you
lucky you you have her

[blazing totem]

just had a +10 academy where the pug premade I took in gave me both hero ring and box 🥹

people can be wholesome

[humble verge]

plays wow
writes articles about wow and diablo
assa rogue guide writer
plays maplestory too

has a gf

???

[runic hinge]

nicest thing you've ever said

[hearty grove]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/wow-players-just-found-a-way-to-save-240-myth-crests-with-voidcores/ does this still work ?

[sharp viper]

should work, just a metric ton of voidcore farm required

[calm grail]

My girlfriend and I play WoW together too. We both have jobs and are normal looking folks. It's insane right?

[plucky ember]

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-toilet-gif-17767220021267365048

[calm grail]

One time I got a 100 on a boss and some dude was like "This dude must do nothing but play WoW" and I said

"No I just read wowhead guides"

[humble verge]

government mandated girlfriend okay

[hearty grove]

i have a 6/6 myth solarflare. Think that gets prio ?

[grim jay]

it just depends on how much you play

nothing more

you can farm 6 full upgrade items in a day if you just play enough

[molten flicker]

I'm looking for a way to show/sort which mobs have garrote + rupture on them, specifically I would like to have the nameplates of the ones without the debuffs to filter to the front if that makes sense? could also do it with different colors I guess.. I'm using plater

[grim jay]

just wondering, why would you want that considering you dont specifically need to see the nameplates as you dont target them directly?
what helped me personally was just locating garr+rup to the side of the nameplates and having decent stacking settings

[molten flicker]

I want to do that so that I can see when to stop spreading bleeds

[analog field]

just track scent and in 90% of cases you are good

also cting 1-2 more times won't break your dmg

[grim jay]

try what helped me, everything else isnt possible anymore iirc

[molten flicker]

I am already tracking rupture and garrote on the nameplates, I just find it hard to see when everything is debuffed with the stacking and there are garrotes and ruptures on 20 nameplates already out of 25

so I dont really see what you are suggesting, just look harder into the mess?

I want to unclutter it so I can see the info, right?

[runic hinge]

I use platynator and I dont find it hard to see, could try that

[analog field]

25 mobs pull is not very frequent

[molten flicker]

look bro, I don't need you to tell me why I don't need the info

if you can't help that's fine

[analog field]

use the scent buff I am telling you

and it solves your issue on most cases

there are no solutions for this issue anymore, only workarounds or checking every single nameplate

[molten flicker]

can you share your profile?

[molten flicker]

can you share your profile?

[grim jay]

no, putting the debuffs to the side

instead of on top

if the nameplates are stacking, they are going to inevitably be on top of eachother

[molten flicker]

right

[runic hinge]

i use default

there's some here

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[molten flicker]

thank you

[analog hedge]

honestly.. how much dps increase is 1* vs 2* flask, oil, pot etc..

[molten flicker]

so the talent "Featherfoot" is supposed to increase the movement speed of sprint by 30% extra and add 4 sec to the duration, without talent it reads 70% speed for 4 seconds, with talent it reads 100% for 6 sec. is this a known bug or something that was hotfixed? (and the duration of the buff is 6 seconds with the talent and 4 seconds without)

surely 4+4 is not 6?

[spice surge]

Around 1-1.5%

[vernal adder]

good engine

[potent oracle]

why are prey traps so hard to find now?

[runic hinge]

they reduced them by like 80% or something

[potent oracle]

wtf!\

[runic hinge]

do 2 world quests and the prey world quest and find like 2 traps and you're done

my last prey was 6 minutes that way

[golden loom]

ye the world quest gives so much prog atm

[potent oracle]

interesting

[runic hinge]

they made it so no traps but every other activity gives a lot more progress

[rancid anvil]

the guides say to take secondary stat enchants for weapons but when i sim it always tells me to take the primary stat enchant. is there a reason to take the secondary stat weapon enchants over the primary even if the sims say go primary?

or just stick with the sim

[golden loom]

follow the sim

[shy sorrel]

What buffs do you track with the cooldownmanager?

[clear knoll]

Apex

Not a buff but good to track

[normal mist]

i mean

it is a buff

[clear knoll]

Oh 😔

[severe meadow]

You’re buff

[balmy condor]

Yeah I won

[jolly isle]

I've found im really enjoying assassination rogue. outlaw hurts my fingers and every 3 or 4 keystrokes i fat finger something.

with assass rogue im struggling to understand our 2 cds (KB and DM) with aoe. when we pull packs of mobs, should i jsut be sending these things? right now im still leveling to 90 so packs dont live very long, but is this a habit i should get into

[real pike]

Yes in open world content and in dungeons just send on cooldown on the highest health enemy in the pack as a base rule

[vernal adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646043012924964896/1504913071586541628/faktail-cat.mp4?ex=6a095fc4&is=6a080e44&hm=6994935336fbd5d6106e512c50a5e629370036e7caa5e8cfc5531a4e1634fa68&

[young flicker]

Is there a way to have a macro set and clear focus with the same keybind? like i hit the button, it sets the focus and icon, if I hit it again it clears it?

[jolly stirrup]

I am done with the shards for now. I can rest again

[vernal adder]

good mog

[quiet star]

maybe someone know, why on today mdi people still ban assa when comp is with outlaw?

[acoustic roost]

I’m not 100% sure but the spec ban is based on the specs that were played by the team. So they save outlaw for the later games

[balmy condor]

the rule is that you can't play the same spec in the same series

every dungeon played, you select 3 played specs to ban

so if you played assa in dungeon 1, banned it

then played outlaw, banned it

you could still technically play sub

[quiet star]

got it

[alpine elm]

What talents are actually flexible from the standard M+ build? do we have any at all?

[cobalt gyro]

i'm just starting to level but i feel like i have even less energy than usual on assa right now lol

probably doesn't help im on the sub vers/mastery build from manaforge

[buoyant herald]

without talking about going into the sudden demise / bleed build for low keys, you have flex between secondary poisoning and fatal concoction

otherwise not much else thats worth thinking about

[lapis lantern]

is there a working interrupt tracking addon for m+?

[thorn thorn]

Shrigma male

[alpine elm]

Thanks mate

[haughty flicker]

np

[short sparrow]

I don't see it on the tier list so I'm not sure which trinket is better..
Heart of Wind which is myth track
https://www.wowhead.com/item=250256/heart-of-wind?bonus=13440:12806

Or Matrix Restabilizer which will always give crit based on its tooltip. Can't find a WoWhead link for it as it's timewarped but it's Hero 6/6 (276)

[raven phoenix]

that seems like a question for the robot

[shy creek]

I'd suggest simming it

[short sparrow]

Can we trust trinket sims now?

I wasn't sure if we could

[royal lantern]

....why should you not "trust them" lol

[storm forum]

They're about as reliable as any other sim

Which is like, between roughly and not at all

[normal mist]

"the robot has been reliable for years now, can we rely on it now?"

[bitter solar]

Can you trust any clanker?

[royal lantern]

yes

simbots are on the good side

[short sparrow]

It's not that. I'm sure I read something (maybe even on the raidbots site) about trinket sims at the start of midnight. It just kind of stuck with me and I have assumed since then that trinket sims are not reliable. My bad if they are 🤷🏼‍♂️

[storm forum]

When are they gonna add a "human error" slider to sims?

I need to be able to Sim my grey parse alts cause I forget to press my trinkets half the time

[waxen oyster]

I mean trinkets are easy this tier

gaze+puzzlebox

[thorn thorn]

Trust the sim but not the people who make sheets of sims and charge for it

[storm forum]

More like trust the sims but not the people who just hand them to you without any explanation on how to interpret them

Actually don't trust the people who tell you explanations either

Don't trust the robots either cause they're made by people who don't know what a mutilate is

[waxen oyster]

kind of funny the renown trinket mogs like 90% of the passive trinkets

and its so easy to get

[storm forum]

It's all a scam. The simcraft add-on is malware

[mortal crag]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-conspiracy-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017163

[storm forum]

[waxen oyster]

literally just equp mythic gaze

[tame dome]

what is the thought on Murder row fishhook, any good?

[waxen oyster]

and forget about your passive slot

”i go on wcl and see 99% of logs using this darkmoon sigil hunt surely its not good right”

[fallow canopy]

no

[balmy condor]

and yes, trinket sims can be trusted. The raidbots message that trinket sims are shaky is normal for the start of an expansion (and sometimes season), as they need to be fully tested and implemented. Usually if it's unclear how something works, it simply will not sim. If it sims, it's at least a good estimate. At this point in the season, everything is known and accurate

[thorn thorn]

I will melt chocolate in a pot and force you to watch me do it

[balmy condor]

utter dogshit in fact

[short sparrow]

Thank you for the detailed response

[storm forum]

please do, maybe it will give me the motivation to finally end it all

[thorn thorn]

how is eye B tier lmao

Are the C and D tier trinkets truly that shit?

[balmy condor]

yes

[thorn thorn]

damn

i thought for sure a 12k damage proc that full splits would be last

I was unfamiliar with blizzards game

[balmy condor]

I was debating putting it in C

[thorn thorn]

Personally I think its a big fat D tier because a myth on has never done more than 1% for me

[balmy condor]

yeh

[wicked scaffold]

just trying to do weekly key here

[balmy condor]

probably safe

but realisitically no one cares what the trinkets are past A tier anyway

[thorn thorn]

real

[balmy condor]

it's "BiS" -> "Usable" -> everything else is unplayable dogshit

so

I don't think it's particularly important where it goes

[thorn thorn]

the voidstalkers contract is actually criminal how dogshit it is

Imagine you do seat

And get the contract

why live

[gaunt herald]

shoutout everyone who got that trinket that fears you and didnt know wtf was goin on

is that contract lol

[thorn thorn]

no

contract just spawns 2 voidstalkers that charge your target and do piss for shit damage

1.5m cd

[gaunt herald]

i remember getting that fear one and wondering why i kept getting feared lmao

[thorn thorn]

reminds me of the kiss of death concoction from TWW S1

God that trinket was so much fun

[tame dome]

lmao fair enough thanks for the heads up xD

[small pier]

!macros

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Deathmark
/use Light's Potential
```You **cannot** macro puzzle box or kingsbane to deathmark, as they are both on the GCD

[desert musk]

is recoloring nameplates on plater based on if they have a bleed still possible

[balmy condor]

no

[desert musk]

ty

[snow zealot]

is there a way to sim the aa dragon buffs?

[balmy condor]

in theory you probably could emulate it

but there's no real reason why you would do that

crit is marginally better dps, versatility should be the pick for anyone pushing

[snow zealot]

heard ty

[thorn thorn]

https://imgur.com/a/wpW3MFS

Remember to be an inconvenience to the silvermoon residents while waiting for keys

[buoyant herald]

roleplaying an actual dog, nailed it

[small pier]

hey first time assass, what poisons do we use?

[gaunt herald]

the ones you talent for which is 2 non lethal and 2 lethal

[fallow canopy]

!poisons

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[gaunt herald]

oh sick

your tank might not like crippling in M+

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/carrying-a-stick-viralhog-blocked-cant-enter-dog-gif-17281365

[royal lantern]

good

i also dont like my tank

so he can suck it

[misty holly]

Why would vers buff be better for pushing here, but gearing for vers isn't?

[royal lantern]

the DR i gues

[balmy condor]

getting 1% vers from gear is just straight up more secondary stat

getting 3% vers or 3% crit, as a %, from a random buff

is just 3%

[misty holly]

OK, so it's efficiency of stats value on gear is different?

[analog field]

Also Vers gives you some sustainability which we could use in higher keys

No key at the moment is lacking dmg

[balmy condor]

vers is 54 rating for 1%, crit is 46 rating for 1%, the buffs give a flat 3%, they don't give rating

[spice surge]

3% crit = 138 crit
3% vers = 162 vers

[balmy condor]

so 3% vers is just worth more than 3% crit would be

whenever we're doing comparisons on gear, we're comparing 100 crit vs 100 vers

not 2% crit vs 2% vers

[upbeat sail]

does crippling give us any dmg buff or is it purely for slows which is annoying af

[analog field]

as it seems in midnight it does not

there was a bug in tww where it counted for lethal doses stack

[upbeat sail]

ah ye i was wondering if it does give like additional stacks on kingsbane or other

if it doesnt , then theres no point in using it outside npx maybe

[balmy condor]

that was intended btw

they seemingly removed it from lethal dose going into midnight, but its entirely scripted and they didn't blue post it as a tuning change

so ya know

fun!

not being able to datamine anything yippie

[fallow canopy]

Weird qol (?) change

[analog field]

Ah the lethal dose stack was intended? It did seem like a bug but yeah who knows

[balmy condor]

it was meant to make dtb have some more interaction

like dtb you get 2 lethals, that's another stack of lethal

why wouldn't the 2 non-lethal also

y aknow

that's also why the tooltip still says "weapon poisons"

and not "lethal weapon poisons"

cause it's whacko

and they didn't change that either

[analog field]

I thought it said lethal poisons

[fallow canopy]

Ct still says 5 targets on the cap no?

[analog field]

lethal poison no?

[balmy condor]

it is 5 after the rework I think

[balmy condor]

oh you're right they did change it

[fallow canopy]

Oh well W less work?

[balmy condor]

weird

[analog field]

But it starts with weapon poisons

it's cooked

[balmy condor]

you can see it on old tooltips even

but yeh, it's so shit to keep track of whats intended or working and not working

cause over the last 5ish years

they've been scripting more and more and more

so instead of being able to read spell data and datamine it

it's just a black box

and you have to just kinda guess at whats intended

[fallow canopy]

Sounds fun for the people that need that information

[balmy condor]

and because it's all scripted, if something changes you just don't know

like they could just change

everything about it

and we would have no clue

unless they specifically say that they changed it in patch notes

[analog field]

Yeah on one hand it's hard having blue posts for everything, but on the other hand somehow this info should be available

[balmy condor]

which obviously isn't a guarantee that they do that

idk, on the one hand I think it's necessary for things like sims to be able to have the info

but the more unc I get as one of the oldass theorycrafters at this point

I find myself thinking that science has gone too far

and things like sims maybe just shouldn't exist

and things like the datamining of each little piece of spell code can be hidden

[analog field]

I don't disagree that if Sims didn't exist the world could be a better place . But at least tooltips should be clear and spell interaction also.

I remember playing Dota 1 in warcraft 3 where everything worked in random ways and forums existed to discuss such things. it was a mess

Maybe make interactions simpler so tooltips can be enough (and ofc invest in tooltips clarity and correctness)

[mint urchin]

If sims didn't exist it would just be people sitting on a dummy parse testing for hours like they used to

[balmy condor]

that's fine

if they want to do that, they can

[mint urchin]

True

Sims just does what people already did but I can see the perspective of it being far more wide spread as a result

[balmy condor]

no

sims do not do what people already did

sims are far stronger

[mint urchin]

In a more excessive and detailed specific manner yes, but the core of it was already done

[balmy condor]

every time you run a sim, you're running the equivalent of over 2 months of 24/7 dummy testing in a gear set

for every gear set

playing the same way, every time

and even then, most things people sim are like 0.2% here or a side grade and the sims are STILL not accurate enough

you don't need a sim to tell you to equip a puzzle box, or that the crit/haste neck is better than the mast/haste neck

those can be done via intuition 99/100 times

people sim because they want an inhuman accuracy

[mint urchin]

Yeah, for sure, and most of the time it's very minor dps gains

[balmy condor]

and if you want to do 1700 hours of dummy testing every time you get a new item

then like

by all means lmao

have at it

[marsh fjord]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HFQm6PDaYAEMLMo.mp4

[mint urchin]

I just meant this has always existed and players would always be doing it to some extent

And then there are the THDs

[balmy condor]

yeah "to some extent" is fine

[mint urchin]

Who would parse for 1700 hours

[thorn thorn]

Im in team sims are harmful to the game simply because it has made a lot of people unaware of the most generic of itemization or statting

[balmy condor]

but especially in a post-midnight world

there is literally just no point for the vast majority of it anymore

[mint urchin]

I mean this kinda just goes back to what you've discussed before with the stats of this game being boring and all do the same thing basically

[balmy condor]

yeh

[marsh fjord]

How to make wow good again

• Remove warcraftlogs
• Remove simulation
• Whispyr feet pics in-game
• Make it so that i get all the items

[thorn thorn]

PJ been running sims on the most optimal way to cause a massive PR failure

[balmy condor]

real

the older I get the more I think logs and sims are just insane to give to the community for literally free

[marsh fjord]

bro in all honestly wow is missing out why can we not send gifs in in-game mail system or pictures. imagine all the pics we can send to people

[balmy condor]

addons in general as well, like yeah we all hate that weakauras are gone

but holy fuck

the shit you're able to do with addons even after wa got nuked

the macro stuff on lura?

insane

[mint urchin]

I mean im sure it makes decent money I know many at least used to pay the sub

[thorn thorn]

Pants

[mint urchin]

It's almost no different from before, just a more jank way of doing it

[marsh fjord]

Actually you make a good point its actually so insane that weakauras were free

the things we could do with WA's was insane

[mint urchin]

"this addon predicts this based on 5 factors" instead of "it read your buff bar"

[young flicker]

Anyone know if there’s a way to have a set focus and clear focus macro for the same keybind? Like I hit it once it focuses and marks the target, if I hit the macro again it clears it?

[mint urchin]

You can add button conditionals to it to do different things so like 7 would focus and shift 7 would unfocus in example

[marsh fjord]

Can just add a shift modifier to the macro like dhaos said

[young flicker]

Aight how do I do that?

Haven’t messed with macro modifiers

[balmy condor]

it's the same thing as like looking at what people are able to do with skyrim mods imo. Like skyrim let people go insane and you have the most insane mods imaginable. And it's not bad for every game, like minecraft is kept alive through mods, terraria is kept alive through mods, and those are great.

The issue is all of the examples so far are single player or sandbox games. Wow has gotten inherently competitive. I want you to name me a competitive game where modding is so rampant. League of legends had overlays get banned, csgo/cs2 has the console I guess but that's mostly for sandbox/editor type shit. Rocket league had bakkesmod but that was practice and scoreboard stuff, nothing actually in a game. I struggle to think of a competitive, multiplayer game where mods or overlays of some kind were both allowed and good for the for the game. Dota maybe?

[balmy condor]

you would use mod:shift or mod:alt in your macro

so like /cast [@focus, mod:shift] Kick

[marsh fjord]

Yeah i couldn't name a game out my head real quick, dota just has builds on a different monitor and thats it and that get imported into the game. that shows you what items to build and what skills to take.

[mint urchin]

Dota def not allowed either

[young flicker]

So like [mod:shift] /clearfocus ?

As the last line of the macro

[marsh fjord]

I play a lot of ESO right now and ESO also has a lot of addons but nothing to crazy like weakaura had

[mint urchin]

It's just the wow/mmo space and wow is the only one that reaches that level of competition

Like FF has it but it's all hushed hushed because it can actually ban for it

[analog field]

I think wow did it for competition reasons back in the day. Let you do w/e you wanted needed.

But now they understand that they have to change gears

It was not successful for now, but I think it will eventually be

[mint urchin]

They just never took a stance against it because originally it was pretty much just UI related stuff and basic boss mod help

[young flicker]

So like [mod:shift] /clearfocus as the last line of the macro for this situation?

[jovial cradle]

If you want a real game that has the BEST modding its easily doom

[balmy condor]

/clearfocus [mod:shift]

[young flicker]

Ok sick

[thorn thorn]

@balmy condor I share with you my favorite screenie from a class discord

[balmy condor]

a classic

[royal lantern]

tbf i always say the same

the idea is ok, the execution is absolutely horrible because they just didnt even try to fix some of the bigger issues

like, i literally need to play with a color overlay now for raiding and dungeons because the game literally became unplayable for me after midnight launch otherwhise, so there is no way im personally thinking positive about it at all because its literally impacting my ability to even playing the game at this point

[haughty flicker]

blizzard sucks

[thorn thorn]

The execution is the reason it ended horrible

[balmy condor]

yeh it's executed terribly

someone just pulled the fucking trigger with no planning

[thorn thorn]

The meter still is assigning the wrong death breakdowns to the wrong people

[haughty flicker]

the funniest part is they seemed to actually have a plan at first

[thorn thorn]

Ignoring the fact it also still has a massive accuracy issue

[haughty flicker]

with a reasonable release cadence

then someone showed up and said nah its coming out in midnight full stop

throw all that reasonable shit out

[thorn thorn]

I want to say I recall it being hinted at that it was gonna be either mid midnight or post midnight during tlt

But im likely just schizomaxing

[haughty flicker]

nah they outright said it was going to be later

[thorn thorn]

its pretty clear they didnt get enough time

[haughty flicker]

and that they'd be implementing their stuff first before disabling addon solutions

[thorn thorn]

Its like, barely usable right now

Kinda

[haughty flicker]

but then they just full 180 on that

[thorn thorn]

Sorta

[haughty flicker]

someone higher up said it needs to be out now

so it was out now

regardless of whether the changes were ready

[thorn thorn]

I dont have any issues with it personally as far as the gameplay enhancements go

[marsh fjord]

Like people dont speak often about this but in what world is it oke that a apex buff is not in the CDM but it comes 8 WEEEKS later in-game to track it accordingly

[thorn thorn]

I use the boss timers and cdm as I see fit and I dont really tink they need anything extra

[marsh fjord]

Like do people forgot we pay for this game or what

[thorn thorn]

I do however have a massive problem with the meter being terrible

[royal lantern]

i genuinely wonder if that 1 deaf/generaly disabled guild can actually still play the game

like, they where doing crazy stuff with addons/weakauras to make it playable for themself

[thorn thorn]

Pretty sure I saw somewhere they either disbanded or are just pseudo disbanded

[haughty flicker]

my favorite is the death recap being completely useless

bc i die then it picks up the tank getting meleed or something

[thorn thorn]

ya

[haughty flicker]

or my warlock getting damaged by their fel armor

[thorn thorn]

insane its still happening

[haughty flicker]

and suddenly thats what killed me

[marsh fjord]

Honestly with all the addons changes the game has become worse then it did in TWW but people still play and thats the important factor for them

[thorn thorn]

I cant really complain about the addonpocalypse and I dont really give me opinion on the matter because even pre midnight my addon and WA usage was extremely minimalist

And unless it was required of me to use I opted to never use it so

Im just kinda vibing rn

Default raid frames, default nameplates, cdm, default boss timers, default meters

[haughty flicker]

if i had to i could play with the base ui and get used to it

[marsh fjord]

I dont know i just feel like they did a big step backwards instead of forward

[haughty flicker]

but i like the way i have mine customized with addons still

and i doubt blizzard will ever make it as good as addons do even after the changes

[thorn thorn]

Only thing not default is i installed NSR for l'ura cuz im a dumbo and dont listen to the shapes being called out

[haughty flicker]

shapes

[thorn thorn]

Ya its 100% just because im sped

I always miss the shapes being called out for some reason

So I just got the addon to see the shapes being punched in

Could probably do without but I just wanna be free of windchime jail

[thorn thorn]

Probably

Personally I think they did do some steps forward

But my relationship with addons in the game is very different than most people so

[haughty flicker]

the addon changes annoyed me while new ones were being made

but now i dont actually care

[thorn thorn]

I did an entire season almost addonless in TWW and it was like discovering a drug addiction how free of shit the screen was and I havent looked back

I say almost addonless because I did have to use plater

[haughty flicker]

but im fortunate enough to not have any issues with accessibility

i know it fucked over a lot of people with that

[thorn thorn]

Because prior to midnight nameplate changes the base nameplates were very literally unusable garbage

ye accessibility is what comes to my mind currently

I dont know anyone personally who is deaf or colorblind

But I assume it would impact them a decent amount

[royal lantern]

what pisses me just really off is that they said "better accessibility!!!!" as a reason for it

and then just spit on everyone that actually needs that

[marsh fjord]

Like a small example for me

I never use like the class weakauras that people make. i always have certain things in my UI nobody really have.
i also play with color coded combo points to know when i needed to finish. like on 5+ it turns red, in the start it really helped me a lot i could probaly play without it but i was so used to it.
Then when midnight launced we had no such thing available to us.

[thorn thorn]

mm

makes sense

[royal lantern]

reminder that ~ 1 in 12 Males has SOME form of Color Vision problems

many just legit dont really know about it

cus colorblindess can be a bit funny to notice/realise

[thorn thorn]

Pretty sure im colorblind

One sec

Mage discord told me im color blind asf

Cuz this shield looks pink to me

They insist its purple/blue

I see only pink

Pretty sure I was being gaslit cuz mages

[marsh fjord]

I see purple with pink

[fallow canopy]

Its purplish pink and a shade of blue idk

[marsh fjord]

@thorn thorn you should do this test

https://eu.enchroma.com/pages/color-blindness-test?format2=number#test

i also done it

[haughty flicker]

it has purple, pink, and blue

but its definitely mainly purple

the blue and pink are accents

[thorn thorn]

yippeee my vision is normal apparently

[rare stone]

Purple outer ring with pink accents, blue inner ring

[sudden fractal]

any1 got good assa rogue plater profiles?

[marsh fjord]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[royal lantern]

also a reminder that colorblind doesnt have to mean "you literally cant see that color or your perception of it is different then it is for others"

[thorn thorn]

There was one that im entirely certain had an answer but it was just a gray circle

[thorn thorn]

My initial thought of combo points would be skill issue but in consideration its probably fine if they just make it turn blue or some shit if its maxed out or something

Might fall under accessability

dunno how I would consider it personally

[marsh fjord]

Yeah this was also in the start when i started playing rogue but when i leveled my rogue i was like hmm thats a thing i really miss

[worn geyser]

I also like color coded combo points personally, i always change my weak aura to do that

[marsh fjord]

Yeah its quite handy

in raids

your focus

is not always on your CPs

[worn geyser]

lets me see it out of periphery and look more at my character

[thorn thorn]

Cuz my initial thing is that it seems like gameplay automation to basically tell you when to spend but then I remember this is 2026 and you have fuck all else to do otherwise so

I think the only time I have ever used something to tell me its good to spend is with enhance

[worn geyser]

I suppose, but I still have to like manually edit it for example if i swap to sub which finishes on 6+ or etc

[thorn thorn]

Cuz maelstrom weapon stacks has some of the worst default resource system shit ever

[worn geyser]

and its not like its telling me what button to press, just letting me know like hey u have 5+ combo points ur CP bar is green now

[thorn thorn]

ye

Im just anti-gameplay automation as a whole but its mostly just like what is the real payoff and penalty for adding it

Cuz like its 2026

You aint gonna do much else except build to 6 and spend

So its probably fine

[worn geyser]

i think certain things are okay, its just hard where to draw the line, like imagine we had to go back to combo points on character portrait

id main swap

[thorn thorn]

I think my stance on it is that i think its fine how it is currently but I wouldnt really hate any further resource gen customization

We already have extremely diet weakauras with the CDM

Emphesis on extremely

Should prolly just put combo points in the cdm

And play a sound when reaching a desired number

[worn geyser]

i like this version of diet weak auras, i think alot of further stuff is like bordering on removing decision making required rather than just making the information more visible

[thorn thorn]

ye

I like the cdm currently

But I also dont use it a whole lot

My enhance is the only one I use it on

And its to track maelstrom weapon stacks and alert me when doomwinds ends since the rotation slightly changes when it active

[worn geyser]

something that comes to mind is like, that scent of blood weak aura that counted targets affected by your rupture, i am not really a fan of stuff like that at all

[marsh fjord]

But in the start of the expac maelstorm stacks was really bad before all the addons couldnt update the ticks fast enough so you were playing from behind

[thorn thorn]

Useless info

Idk why people always wanna track useless shit

"How can I track my envenom duration"

Why do you wanna track a debuff that is up perma

What benefit is there

[thorn thorn]

fascinating

I didnt know that cuz this is my first season playing enhance

[worn geyser]

its a weird tracker for sure, it was kinda helpful in some keys since you didnt waste 1 or 2 globals spreading an extra rupture or two before fok env spam

[thorn thorn]

A lot of it is that the decision making around that kind of stuff was removed

Demo doesnt need to track imps anymore

Implosion only uses so many

And the tyrant buff for imps is dynamically updated

So its completely worthless to track how many you have

Especially when implosion already does that on the button

[worn geyser]

ye we have very little decisionmaking in regards to things like that anymore it seems, which i think kinda sucks but it does render the trackers that you needed for that stuff no longer needed

[thorn thorn]

Aug doesnt need to track their buffs anymore

Not like they used to before

But especially not now

Since they literally just happen and do there thing from you playing the game

completely pointless to track

And then you have rdruid

[worn geyser]

yeah, i dunno i think they definitely leaned too far into the remove decision making related items side of things but i wonder how much of that is just due to them wanting to make sure stuff is playable without addons

[thorn thorn]

with 5 buffs that give mastery value

And no way to customize buffs on the default raidframes

gg

[worn geyser]

yeah

[final veldt]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Stats
You will always get more accurate results using Raidbots Top Gear, as stat values will flucuate depending on gear and situation.

Agility (Item level) > Crit > Haste > Mastery >>>> Vers
The ratio between secondaries ends up being roughly 40/33/26/1

[small pier]

Hypothetically If my death mark has 30-40sec on cooldown, am I sending kingsbane or waiting?

[balmy condor]

depends on what's happening

if it's a raid fight and there's only like 2:10 left in the fight

then you're only getting one deathmark anyway, you would send kb, then sync on the next

in m+ if there's a big pack coming in 30 seconds you would hold the kb

if it's the start of a pack you would kb

etc etc

you can make any number of situations where it's correct to do either

[worn geyser]

forgot to swap my pants from sudden demise set gg

[buoyant herald]

unlucky

[balmy condor]

I'm sorry what

"sudden demise set" and you're dropping tier

say cap

[amber brook]

When Do i send CDS on AA bird boss? Do i hold for the small amp?

[worn geyser]

nah i dont drop tier on sudden demise set, i just use a different tier slot so i can get more mastery

i swap to non-tier pants, and change my helm to tier helm, just forgot to swap the pants back this time around

[worn geyser]

depends on key level, but once you get high enough, you can send on pull, kb small buff, full cd + pot on last dmg buff

[amber brook]

small buff being the wind orbs ye

[worn geyser]

ye

[amber brook]

gotcha, ty

[worn geyser]

i swap these pieces + neck and rings to demisemaxx

[buoyant herald]

pants is the recommended off piece anyway though...

[worn geyser]

i dont have a crit pants unfortunately

[buoyant herald]

neither but those pants are like...next best thing

[worn geyser]

nah engi helm sims higher for me

[buoyant herald]

ah fair, not sure if the usual bis lists include engi items but im guessing from previous conversations it falls into the "such low impact i cbf"

[worn geyser]

its probably something like that so people dont think they gotta swap engi

i dunno I made the helm when i had like barely any crit on my gear and hero helm so it simmed crazy high for me, dont think it would be worth unless u were in same situation

spending crest on other slot would be better

[buoyant herald]

its not a surprise, assass loves crit for ages

[worn geyser]

crit also just makes it feel nice to play compared to mastery since the seal fates hit more

[buoyant herald]

yeah

i think its preferred well into the DR

im at about 1100 unbuffed and it still wants crit flask

[worn geyser]

my sim still wants me to like crit gem tho - this is buffed by crit flask

[buoyant herald]

Assume puzzy b and gaze too?

[worn geyser]

ye

[low silo]

2 chested an 18 POS

fucking blasters

[buoyant herald]

Jesus Christ imagine all dps pumping equally hard that goes crazy

Not even a single carry smh

[low silo]

Every 4-5 keys I play cracked out of my mind, the rest of the time I'm mid as fuck

[buoyant herald]

i identify with that 😂

[uncut dragon]

so, is there an easy way to track if your target has spatter up? I think I had a WA that did it but I can't figure out how to do it with plater or the default cooldown manager? I miss weak auras

[balmy condor]

don't need to track it, it just auto applies on envenoms

but maybe it's in the cdm as a buff like garrote?

no clue

[jolly stirrup]

I mean you could just look at the enemy frame

[keen spruce]

[crude helm]

Yeah you can track in CDM

[tacit rover]

whatre we usiong on main hand?

[keen spruce]

Dagger

[tacit rover]

no man the sharpening stone

[marsh fjord]

[runic hinge]

I hardly know-er

[keen spruce]

[normal mist]

oil

[sharp viper]

I prefer lube

[normal mist]

can also work actually

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[cinder seal]

Hello Guys, can u tell me why Murder Row Fishhook is simulating worse than Farstrider's Mercy with Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt.
I thought that this wepon was created specifically for us rogues with the Assa specialization, because of the Lethal Dose talent, but looking by the sim it has no effect. Is this true?

[analog field]

yes it's very bad

ultra bad

[runic hinge]

it barely does anything in ST and does nothing in aoe unlike the stats from hunt

[analog field]

it does not stack with our talents

[runic hinge]

also effects from trinkets/embellish dont work with talents 99% of the time

[cinder seal]

🤦

[runic hinge]

unlucky

[balmy condor]

like tony said, it's an item and so it doesn't actually work with lethal dose, and it doesn't count as a bleed for any of our bleed effects

it's also a single target bleed with a fixed proc chance, meaning it has zero scaling with multiple targets

[cinder seal]

Yeah, just now I saw that the English description of talent says "Bleed damage over time abilities," while my language translation uses the word "effects of Bleed damage over time ." unlucky

[spice surge]

Even when stuff says "increased bleed damage" like sudden demise, it does not work on effects like the dagger

Anything in the talent trees that buff stuff only buffs rogue specific spells, not items