assassination

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-old-man-memories-remember-gif-6689348742852115617

[balmy condor]

whatever you say unc

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/up-carl-fredrickson-old-stiff-arthritis-gif-26296416

[coral ibex]

says the oldest man alive aka 27

[balmy condor]

idk what the fuck AIM is

is that like AOL

[coral ibex]

aol instant messenger

[balmy condor]

not that I know what AOL is either

oh

[coral ibex]

nobody even says g2g anymore

[balmy condor]

its the same thing

[coral ibex]

ur just there

always available

[balmy condor]

isn't it gtg

I used to say gtg

[coral ibex]

g2g is more l33t

[thorn thorn]

What caliber do you want it to be

[coral ibex]

.45

god's caliber

[lethal arrow]

anti melee boss down

[severe meadow]

Sub..

Posting in the Assa channel..

Faker

[lethal arrow]

yeah they dont care over tehre

[severe meadow]

gz tho

we're p3 wiping

[celest ruin]

congrats on completing your endeavor task

[haughty flicker]

[lethal arrow]

W endeavor task

[proven carbon]

i've now been at paladins for 2 weeks and i would say a good 40% of our pulls have been due to incorrect taunts
i'm losing my mind

[lethal arrow]

what a second

mr wowhead was NOT on ass

[severe meadow]

We pinned his legs back for it too

We taught buddy a lesson

[past marten]

He was ass tho

Parsing a 100 on Chim to make yourself look worse on Bel

[balmy condor]

I have an assa kill on it

but rank 6 crown on assa

is a 95

so

the 97 on sub takes prio I guess

number bigger

[lethal arrow]

my orange parse on vanguard as sub was sandwiched between 5 greys

[proven carbon]

should i be going for the pandemic on garrote off an improved garrote or should i let it mostly expire

imp garrote having 7 seconds left, should i press normal garrote or should i let it expire and then garrote after it falls off

[balmy condor]

you should let it expire

but it's not a big thing

like if you refresh at 6s left right

you're "wasting" 6s of 50% increased

or 3s of regular garrote

which is like 2 ticks

[proven carbon]

might matter a little more on paladins though, no?

maybe im overthinking it

[balmy condor]

You are

[proven carbon]

i've just been sending it at 6ish seconds and i think its been working relatively fine

not sure how to judge damage on prog but on our best pulls i would've been in line with 93+ parses

[severe meadow]

caring about parse during prog

weirdge

just kill boss and go next

[proven carbon]

i mean its a good way to judge your damage on a pure boss damage fight no?

paladins is literally all about doing boss damage and dodging

[severe meadow]

I guess but parsing this tier is absolute dog

[proven carbon]

you can say that about any tier

unless you're on farm

[severe meadow]

I mean I haven't but

[proven carbon]

how else are you supposed to know if you're playing how you should be?

[balmy condor]

You make boss die

[severe meadow]

yeah

[proven carbon]

rogue on paladins is consistently at the bottom of the meters so i have to judge off other logs

i dont play assassination for any other fights

or other content really

[balmy condor]

Do you think my 2 on beloren is playing badly

[proven carbon]

i havent looked at the log to know the context

so i can't say

[balmy condor]

There ya go

[drifting cloud]

yes next question

[proven carbon]

i look at my own logs and compare to kill logs

[drifting cloud]

[proven carbon]

is it bad to do that?

[fresh kelp]

parsing low on sub on this fight is ethical ill say it

[severe meadow]

what are you comparing

just damage?

thats it?

[haughty flicker]

yes you fucking suck

[proven carbon]

obviously not

[drifting cloud]

its not bad it just serves alot less meaning than you might think

its what like week10 of the tier youre on paladins I can assure you theres way bigger problems to solve than your dmg on wipe pulls

no flame

[proven carbon]

i can look at my logs to know if im taking too much damage or need to be pressing defensives differently
we're unfortunately over 100 pulls on this fight so i have little else to look at

[balmy condor]

Yeah, race to world last prog will be like that

[proven carbon]

like

what else do i do

[severe meadow]

yeah but you're comparing that to people with different comps, different healers, different players

there defensives are going to be different

I press cloak to save myself

Jim bob probably doesn't

[proven carbon]

isnt self improvement about seeing how other play their cds

and adjusting

and testing

[drifting cloud]

well unfortunately assa has followed this very hard rule for like 5 xpacs which is

[proven carbon]

its not like im eating damage for no reason just to parse

[drifting cloud]

press stuff on cd

unless youre going off top cn logs which are almost always just minmaxed for pad

but assa isnt super popular in raid this tier so theres alot less of those

[proven carbon]

i've had my fair share of kills that i parsed horribly but i still got the kill

it's not about getting high parse
i'm literally just seeing if im playing the spec how i should be

comparing cpm

[severe meadow]

You can do that but at the end of the day, you kinda just have to learn it

[haughty flicker]

idk i never learned it and did fine

[proven carbon]

i literally grab like #200 and look to see how i compare

just to see

i'm not a top 5 player

so i dont look at the best logs

i didnt know we hated what i'm doing

[drifting cloud]

its not like that, maybe paladins in itself is a bad example

but dragons or alleria it wont matter how you look at logs where your parse is mostly dependant on how bad the rest of your raid is

and thats just a very common thing for assa

[proven carbon]

i mean like i said
this is the only fight/content i'm playing assa on
i play sub every other fight
after 100+ pulls on paladins you run out of things to look at in your own logs

so i look at other logs to see if there are any glaring issues

[severe meadow]

Are you losing to enrage or are you just dying to stuff or what

what problem are you trying to fix with logs

[proven carbon]

its not a problem anymore
early prog i had cd timing issues and fixed them with my own logs

if everyone was alive the boss would die

as is with almost every prog group ever

[severe meadow]

right, you're prob playing fine, can't make your team do it

[proven carbon]

yeah so after 100 pulls i like to see how i stack up

[severe meadow]

we're still losing people to intermission on alleria because why not

[proven carbon]

i just cant wait to be done with paladins..

[severe meadow]

yeah, worst fight of the tier

[proven carbon]

alleria at least looks fun

[severe meadow]

until maybe lura p1 wipe factory

I think alleria is fun personally

[proven carbon]

paladins is so blah

[haughty flicker]

i liked alleria on heroic, havent gotten there on mythic yet

but also

im playing spriest so

very biased

[drifting cloud]

I think your enjoyment of alleria will mostly depend how many melee your raid plays lol

[severe meadow]

Priest on alleria is apparently the worst shit ever

[haughty flicker]

on mythic yeah

ive heard

[severe meadow]

bc you need help crossing and wheelchair for arrows

[haughty flicker]

oh well i dont need help crossing at least

[severe meadow]

and slow on intermission

xd

[haughty flicker]

unless the gaps are larger

i just glide

lol

[proven carbon]

race change dracthyr

[severe meadow]

you're also fine on intermission too then

our dracs don't take arrows at all I think

[proven carbon]

from what little i've watched of m alleria
i like the way the fight flows

looking forward to it

[severe meadow]

it's a bit hectic but once you get the movement down

not so bad

[proven carbon]

ye

[severe meadow]

if your raid is a bunch of goobers, you might struggle a bit in p2 with hitting the clones

with the obelisks

[keen raven]

Why do rogues have such low health compared to like every class lmao

[drifting cloud]

they have same health as like 70% of other specs

[languid nova]

Guys I play both sub and assa and I have a mythic krick dagger and a mythic skyreach dagger. Is it worth it to swap out the crafted offhand with both upgraded with voidcore? Or am I better off upgrading crafted offhand?

[proven carbon]

considering these goobers were missing in p1 i'm a little worried

on H

[severe meadow]

Do you even do that on heroic

Im not talking about the white arrows

[proven carbon]

no

i was talking about the white arrows being missed

[severe meadow]

yeah no

[proven carbon]

so im worried about obelisks

[haughty flicker]

well if you cant hit one arrow you prob will struggle with the other

[severe meadow]

The purple lines you get from the obelisks

with the 3 lines

[haughty flicker]

[proven carbon]

yeah its going to be rough

[severe meadow]

you have to line those up and hit clones on the other platforms

[proven carbon]

yea

[outer lodge]

big simalacrum sniping

[severe meadow]

yeah

whatever tank you have tanking alleria at the same will be who makes that easy or not

because they can move her in and bait it

and let you have room

[haughty flicker]

ono

[proven carbon]

considering our tank is missing taunts every 3 pulls on paladins i'm not holding my breath

[severe meadow]

bc ranged also have a clone to hit

so you need room in the middle to feel comfy

[buoyant herald]

Is your embellishment on that offhand and can you easily move it without downgrading another price to crafted?

[potent oracle]

whats the reaosn behind assa's low dmg in raids

[jolly stirrup]

Keeping us low so we fuck next season

[golden loom]

does good boss damage but it lacks burst aoe so it doesnt get to padd on add heavy fights

[jolly stirrup]

I like my answer more (i know you are right)

[blazing totem]

and since they have a hard-on for making every boss spawn bazillion of small adds, anything that can cleave for free just shoots up

[potent oracle]

ah

[blazing totem]

assa does good boss dmg, unfortunately on some fights it just blows to swap cuz the adds are too low hp for you to even bother

so some ppl just tunnel boss

[buoyant herald]

But also some adds do kinda matter so if you don’t swap you get called out

Or you do less than the tanks and get called out if you even touch them

[shell kraken]

Hi! I've just bonus-rolled Puzzle box, but only crest for 3/6 - safe to voidshard it?

[golden loom]

can u even use voidcore on items that arent 6/6?

[frosty cedar]

nope

[shell kraken]

oh then ok 😄

[jolly stirrup]

So +11 and higher guarantee a shard?

[balmy condor]

10 and higher

[safe briar]

Forge the crafted oh. Dont trust the sim if it says otherwise. Was in a same spot 🙂

[balmy condor]

what sim is suggesting taking off your crafted dagger

[honest flower]

Mine also. Probably forgot to put the enchantment on it? ✌️

[analog field]

Whisp isn't it close with 2 arcanoweaves? Does it really matter 2 arcano or 1+1 ?

[buoyant herald]

All the sims people are doing without replacing the embellish anywhere

[analog field]

Having feet instead of dagger for example

[buoyant herald]

The true opportunity cost there is the reduced stats from a 285 crafted vs 289 6/6

On top of the embellish

[analog field]

feet is not big stats

[buoyant herald]

Feet is mid stats

[analog field]

like sub rogues craft belt which is the same as feet

[balmy condor]

what the fuck are you guys simming for gods sake

that's so cooked

[analog field]

For me it is defintely an upgrade but I have hero feet

[buoyant herald]

Off hand is like…the least impactful slot but somewhere you can put the single best embellishment

[celest ruin]

include a non-embellished crafted boots on your sim

[analog field]

i included another 298 dagger

[mortal crag]

Hunt seems much better than whatever small bonus a 298 dagger would give me

[buoyant herald]

Yes

So when you’re thinking of doing 2 x 6/6 myth daggers, you’re gaining 3 ilvls in the lowest impact slot for the trade off of:

worse embellishment elsewhere
-3 potential ilvls on your new second embellishment site

[mortal crag]

Yep

[buoyant herald]

Now to be fair with the stat squish that’s fuck all

[mortal crag]

Can you put hunt on not weapons?

[buoyant herald]

Eg 3 ilvls on boots was 2 main stat and a single secondary

[buoyant herald]

You cannot

[subtle tundra]

meow

[stray fable]

if we dont have a 6/6 myth track dagger do we just send our first voidcore into our crafted weapon?

[buoyant herald]

yes

[subtle tundra]

yes

just use them!

you will get more

[buoyant herald]

they're infinitely farmable

[stray fable]

love it

it will be Sent

[buoyant herald]

already used 4 on my shaman lol

5*

[real pike]

Did a 10 last night

Tank did less overall than the healer

Not sure I have ever seen that

[rugged basalt]

gm

wtf you're playing boxes

[ancient ingot]

Guys how did u using deffs on last boss correctly? Can’t find peak dmg boss

[balmy condor]

during phase 1 basically not at all

[ancient ingot]

It’s Cyrillic

[balmy condor]

and then pretty much feint on cd

[ancient ingot]

What should I use when I hit add with beam ?

Because cloak not working or I’m blind

[balmy condor]

in p2?

[ancient ingot]

Ah my bad I didn’t say last boss seat

Was confused p1,p2 xd

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean you can pretty much feint whenever

the big majority of your damage taken is just the dot

you take more when the crystals ain't silenced so I guess focus on having feints for that

but shit just hurts

[analog hedge]

ik feint says aoe, so it doesnt work on skyreach 2nd boss laser soak right?

or does it?

👀

[balmy condor]

well you run elusiveness

so it works, yes

if it's not the aoe it's the elusiveness part

[real pike]

people in my guild legitimately enjoy the new system and it has me baffled

[balmy condor]

[analog hedge]

[real pike]

it's so free and feels so cheap

vaults are worthless to me now I literally only need sockets and rerolls

[worldly sail]

i would have probably liked it more if you weren't able to slingshot your gear with the myth achievement + alt bullshittery

and if we also didn't get unlucky with leather gear in raid

[balmy condor]

me resisting the urge to crash out about how shit gear is in this game for the 3rd time today

[winged quail]

I’m seriously considering making a new character to slingshot it to max

[balmy condor]

[worldly sail]

me when our healers are 290 and im struggling at 287 but i dont care dps doesn't matter at this point lole

[winged quail]

Like the weeks of gearing have been a total waste of time when you can get full myth in a week

[golden loom]

I still wake up by myself at 5 am giddy with excitement even tho server reset is 7am and I start work at 6:30 am

I might have a small addiction to the game dw about it

this was this weeks vaults tho so not bad !

[analog field]

Bonus rolls are good I think, and getting gear or not having an unusable vault

but they have to do something with gear for sure

[vestal wren]

haha, this discussion comes up a lot.
I had it with a friend yesterday because he was curios why people are still crest limited

[analog field]

and crest achievement should not be in the game imo

[vestal wren]

they just make things more annoying to min/max

but even without, the crest requirements are quite big

[mortal crag]

I like having alts at a higher level

Having them all stuck on like 250 cause I can’t put equal time into all of them would be a negative

[golden loom]

I wouldnt mind not having the upgrade system at all and just going back to the good old days of static ilvl and higher lvl stuff dropping the highest ilvl

[vestal wren]

e.g. we are at 900 crests now, you need roughly 1300 crests to fully upgrade if you do cheeses.
Technically could get a bit lower if you use the new upgrade item on heroic before upgrading your mythic weapons/trinkets

[honest comet]

I'm limited on crests but then again I don't have any alts at all and I crafted 3 pieces. Still at 286 ilvl so it's not really an issue 😅

[balmy condor]

<- how blizzard expects me to feel when it's the 37th season reset in a row with a boring shit tier set that basically just gives me mastery and 18 slots of agility + 2 secondary stats that are just fucking cosplaying versatility, but I'm also crest limited, timegated in three different ways, and I have to grind shit for literally months to stay on the curve for my parse every week

[rugged basalt]

When I finish my weeklies on the one char I play I close the game and play aram mayhem or cs2 🗣️

[vestal wren]

btw. does ptr crash for you too?

i wanted to test some 12.0.7

[balmy condor]

I tested raid today and was fine idk

[vestal wren]

and i get game crashed served

[balmy condor]

that was uh

13 hours ago

[golden loom]

the only game I have opened the past month that wasnt midnight was tbc classic

[vestal wren]

maybe it was fixed, i can try later today

[balmy condor]

the new boss is an absolute joke btw

[rugged basalt]

can u describe the boss in 5 words

[vestal wren]

the new raid is supposed to be a loot piniata i assume

[mortal crag]

Yep

[vestal wren]

tho isn't 12.0.7 another item level push?

[balmy condor]

I'll do it in two:
vorasius + saladhar

[civic trellis]

• counts as a word im pretty sure

[rugged basalt]

Saladhaar tww or saladhaar midnight

[balmy condor]

here, you want a raid plan too? cause we solved the fight in 35 minutes and then spent the rest trying to brute force it with 13 people and getting gear checked

cause they scaled us to 279 for some reason

https://raidplan.io/plan/z3ttzd8q3f23rjrr

there ya go

[rugged basalt]

Thanks

[balmy condor]

its chimaerus raid plan cause he has 3 different types of adds and a circle room

but like

imagine in your mind's eye that they're all big mushroom fuckers

[golden loom]

I love adds

[balmy condor]

and it's good enough

[rugged basalt]

The page didn't load and I thought the whole plan was "please fucking kick this add"

[balmy condor]

take the short chubby ones under the boss, take the short skinny ones a bit away so they don't die on top

make two death piles

pull boss onto this guy for the first set of adds for the death pile, kick it

do the second set of adds on the first set's death pile to keep them stacked, burn the interrupt guy down

boss stomps, turns them all to mushrooms

kill mushroom, use a defensive for the pop cause one mushroom will be out in africa

run debuff out

repeat until boss dead

that's the entire fight

[vestal wren]

at least you can aoe pad

[balmy condor]

I played sub at the start but the mushrooms are every 2 min

[drifting sail]

Quick question if you first apply your dots ie rupture garrote on your target then pop a lights potential does the next tick of your dots do more damage? Or do you need to pop the light first and then apply dots?

[balmy condor]

it's dynamic

so it'll update and deal more

[rugged basalt]

The fight looks cool

[golden loom]

exactly what we needed more of in this tier

[rugged basalt]

Can't wait to compete with subs

[golden loom]

I hope to god next tier just 6 single target fights

[rugged basalt]

If I get guidon in my gv I'll silently grumble ngl

[balmy condor]

it's legit just run your fixate adds to a marker and control where they die

for 6 minutes

[vestal wren]

I see if i can fix my client

[rugged basalt]

And I'll still ignore it for socket 🗣️ Staying loyal to sinning

[vestal wren]

and maybe test heroic next week

[balmy condor]

and if you have enough ilvl, you outheal the ramping raid ticking damage

cause that's honestly the thing that stopped us from killing

boss had a gorillion health

and just ramps ticking damage every 5ish seconds until you die

liquid got really close to killing it though, blizzard had to spawn in like an entire room full of adds to force a wipe or something

[rugged basalt]

Why is no one doing raids rn

[balmy condor]

we got to ~40% with 13 people

15 minimum btw

[golden loom]

oh yeah theres flex raiding on it

[vestal wren]

lol

[rugged basalt]

Oh yeah flex raiding omg

[balmy condor]

yeah the boss honestly felt like a beta test of flex raiding + mid-tier raid

testing the waters

but mechanically it's basically just a really fat delve boss

[mortal crag]

I think that’s exactlywhat it is isn’t it

[balmy condor]

or like a dungeon boss

[golden loom]

ye im kinda fine with that tbh

[balmy condor]

I mean it's better than the alternative of it being uu'nat 2.0

[golden loom]

Famed Slayer of the Grudge Pit?

[balmy condor]

but our raid is 3 hours

and if it doesn't die in 3 hours

I would be suprised, and depressed

[golden loom]

was it mythic testing or heroic?

[balmy condor]

mythic

heroic is next week

I don't even know what the myth mechanic is im ngl

the myth testing felt like heroic

wait

the myth mechanic is that the adds can't die on top of each other

holy hell heroic is actually freelo

[vestal wren]

lol

[balmy condor]

you literally just run the boss onto the first interrupt add

stack on the boss

the adds fixate, run under the boss

and you just giga aoe skullfuck them when they respawn

and that's the entire fight

[golden loom]

wait since myth is 15-25... what if heroic can be 40 man !!! I WANT 3 FPS

[balmy condor]

funglings don't exist on heroic

no mechanics on them btw, they're just vorasius adds without the on-death

that's pretty sick ngl

just a big aoe meatgrinder boss

[golden loom]

time to demise

[balmy condor]

oh for sure

although they die kinda fast

CT felt okay on mythic when we were scaled down and missing 2-4 dps

but something tells me if we walk in with 10 more ilvl.....

oh right and all the gear is random stats

[mortal crag]

That’s interesting

[golden loom]

10 more ilvl and who knows if theres just a 15% damage buff when u walk in cause they enable it for that raid also

[balmy condor]

is it though

[mortal crag]

Kinda yea

Idk if it’s good

[golden loom]

secondary stats

[balmy condor]

this isn't my definition of interesting ngl

can't wait to loot council this shit

[mortal crag]

Lol

[balmy condor]

"everyone go sim mast/vers"

[golden loom]

can u just catalyze 298 ilvl tier?

[balmy condor]

yeah

holy shit a trinket with a 30ish% uptime secondary stat proc?

SAY IT AINT SO

[mortal crag]

It’s only 2 peices for each like material right

Oooh

That’s interesting

Random raid

[balmy condor]

it's like that other trinket that has existed in some form every season for the last 8 years

[sharp viper]

isn't that always the case? I presumed it wouldn't be something serious, just a beta test for live realm (like all the content so far)

[golden loom]

they need to bring back socket bonuses and sockets on all items and make unique items

[balmy condor]

yeah the problem is they beta test 15 things and then follow up and do none of them

[mortal crag]

Isn’t that the point of a test?

[balmy condor]

I'm willing to bet money that they do this 4 raid in one tier thing, people like it

and then they don't fucking do it for another 2 expansions

[sharp viper]

this one has leech on it, our healers are already foaming at their mouths

[balmy condor]

cause that was the point of trial of valor in legion as well

and it was one of the most beloved raids of all time

and they just

didn't fucking do anything with that

[golden loom]

the roadmap did have a mid-patch raid planned for next season aswell right?

[balmy condor]

did it?

based

[analog field]

12.1.5

[sharp viper]

somethign something evergreen content

[balmy condor]

okay that's a little more strange

[balmy condor]

.7 patch is like victory lap for the season

[sharp viper]

[balmy condor]

.5 patch is like

middle of prog for the average CE guild

[golden loom]

theres a new game mode in 12.1.7

[balmy condor]

that's very whack

[analog field]

Maybe the goal is to split raids

[mortal crag]

Labrynth is the big delve right?

[sharp viper]

decour duels? xdd

[analog field]

like 5 bosses and 5 bosses?

or something

[balmy condor]

labyrinth is mega dungeon delve

yes

[golden loom]

oh is that it?

[mortal crag]

Looks cool

[sharp viper]

no clue, it's so underbaked it might as well be

[golden loom]

I imagined it would be plunderstorm 3

[sharp viper]

[balmy condor]

"new standalone mode"

whatever the hell that means

[sharp viper]

glorp storm 3

[analog field]

it's like a survival game I think

a more spooky etc

these are the rumours

[untold mortar]

bring back plunderstorm

[balmy condor]

is abyss anglers a new "standalone mode"

is plunderstorm a standalone mode

is delve a standalone mode

[mortal crag]

When are they bringing back the auction house mount

I would like one

[golden loom]

the interesting thing about the 12.1.5 new raid is that it might not be a 1 boss raid?

[analog field]

I think they said 1 boss

[balmy condor]

"new content and systems" in a .5 patch scares me

ngl

[mortal crag]

Isn’t there a new thing coming in .7

The like buff book thing

[balmy condor]

new systems in a 1.5 patch means that either the 1.0 raid is overtuned to shit and you need the 1.5 to nerf it

or the 1.0 raid is balanced and the 1.5 system destroys it

[golden loom]

I am so ready for this update btw

[balmy condor]

you're demented ngl

[golden loom]

[balmy condor]

if I was harry potter I'd be summoning a fucking deer or whatever irl right now

[golden loom]

delving weekly on 4 chars gets her lvl'd up quick

[balmy condor]

idk man, midnight so far has felt like dragonflight 3.0

and not in a "wow they improved on the dragonflight systems!" way

it's more of a "we doin this shit again raw for the 3rd time with no changes and calling it new content?" kinda way

and last titan is part of the whole worldsoul thing so I doubt it's fucking overhauling anything

[honest comet]

Jokes on you, I didn't play DF

[balmy condor]

dragonflight 4.0........

[golden loom]

its kinda weird, I really liked tww s1 cause I started then, then I think season 2 was pretty bad, season 3 was peak and now midnight feels a bit worse than season 3 but still better than season 2

[balmy condor]

stuck farming crests for another 3 years

strap in

[golden loom]

like I think I played an equal amount of classic during s2 as I did retail cause I did not even bother playing alts

[balmy condor]

I genuinely like the class changes in midnight but the whole content/system side of it feels like legit nothing has changed

I find myself so uninterested in anything midnight related, much faster than tww, which was much faster than df

[mortal crag]

I think there’s a lot more to do if you’re not a raider

[balmy condor]

yeah but just having MORE to do isn't fun

[mortal crag]

I mean it might be for someone else

[balmy condor]

like the more you're doing isn't really interesting or fun or new in any way

[runic hinge]

They need to bring back the soup

[balmy condor]

like prey? I guess?

[golden loom]

I personally love mindless griding but I don't think there really is any in retail

[balmy condor]

who is doing prey

[golden loom]

yeah I only do prey for the delve map thing (shoot me)

[balmy condor]

prey is kinda interesting sometimes maybe

[honest comet]

Haven't done prey since the week after nightmare I think

[balmy condor]

even if it's like the same 8 npcs

[mortal crag]

I really like the influx of people doing housing content

[balmy condor]

on a loop

[golden loom]

the coolest thing about prey is the NPC guy ur doing it for

[runic hinge]

That guy is surely betraying us later

[balmy condor]

but then like what is different/new in midnight for the non-raiders

abyss anglers?

[honest comet]

Haven't tried that

[balmy condor]

void rituals are just mini delves, idk bout that

dundun?

is dundun cool?

[mortal crag]

Idk man

[runic hinge]

Void rituals are better delves because I don’t have to worry about the stupid npc pulling me into combat

[mortal crag]

Not for me

[honest comet]

Did one ritual, felt boring.

I somewhat miss the end of i think it was BFA with the orgrimar and stormwind corrupted event 😅

[balmy condor]

I mean idk either

[normal mist]

Preys, abyss anglers, delves 2.0 (void rituals), housing (which can be actually huge time investment)

[golden loom]

they ruined abundance when they nerfed it week 1

[balmy condor]

that's why I'm asking

cause I genuinely just

don't get it

[normal mist]

Abundance is whatever

[mortal crag]

I don’t think those people are in the rogue discord though tbh

[balmy condor]

is any of this stuff cool, like are you excited to do it

[balmy condor]

royal is literally right here

[runic hinge]

All this content is for Kwan

[honest comet]

Nobody's here
..

[normal mist]

I haven't done the initial quest for the anglers and that says a lot

[honest comet]

Time to doom some more over rogue tuning?

[balmy condor]

has your gf

[normal mist]

Nope

[balmy condor]

massive

[normal mist]

She does housing A LOT

[mortal crag]

Mine built a house

[vestal wren]

it works, not crashing

[balmy condor]

I'm not sure jez has done abyss anglers either

[normal mist]

And guildies love her cooks

[mortal crag]

And then demanded I help get a bunch of crap from old content

[honest comet]

I don't even know what the angler thing is. Sounds like fishing, and the highest ive ever tried to lvl that is 15 before I wanted to shoot myself 😶

[mortal crag]

I did some abyss

[normal mist]

And she follows some girl Instagram acc that does amazing housing stuff and tries to replicate

[balmy condor]

it's kinda fishing except underwater combat

[mortal crag]

You swim about and shoot fish with a gun

[balmy condor]

and you don't press your own buttons

you press the shoot gun button

and it fires a bullet

[honest comet]

That sounds... Awful

[balmy condor]

which maybe hits

[vestal wren]

the angler even'ts main problem is hitboxes

[balmy condor]

sometimes

[golden loom]

they talked about it on the bench, but what if all this content just gave u a couple of myth crests, then I would know what DunDun is all about 🔥

[mortal crag]

It’s like fine

It’s just a mini game sorts thing

[vestal wren]

the "overlay" icons often obfuscate the smaller fish

[mortal crag]

If the reward were something I wanted I’d do it more

[balmy condor]

abyss anglers is a whatever mini game

they made it sound much more than what it is

[vestal wren]

and the hitboxes of the larger ones are not great

[honest comet]

I remember plants vs zombies and peggle.... Those were minigames 😂

[vestal wren]

it feels sloppy tested

[runic hinge]

It does feel like there is a ton of casual content and usually I try to engage with most of it but there’s so much I’m just doing keys instead cause I’m overwhelmed

[balmy condor]

it's like a code jam mini-game some dev made in a weekend on a cocaine bender

[runic hinge]

I pugged a mythic boss

[balmy condor]

and they went "yep great, put it in as a front page feature for the patch"

and then it launched

and people were like why am I doing this

and then no one did it

and now it's just kinda there for the achievement hunters to grind for the next 4 months

[mortal crag]

Yeah?

[normal mist]

The best way to usually incentivize non raiders/m+ pushers to do this kind of content, is being generous with the rewards.

• mounts;
• transmogs;
• toys;
• pets;
• amazing housing decor;
  Etc

[vestal wren]

I did the anglers event

outside of the 1M point achivement

[honest comet]

I'm gonna try to pug dreamrift this week. Hard without CE 😅

But hey I got a 97 parse in a pug heroic run so theres that

[vestal wren]

that one is true evil

[balmy condor]

so none of the things from anglers?

it's just a diver suit and that's it, no?

[vestal wren]

(just way too high to grind)

[normal mist]

[balmy condor]

yeah that shits mental

[normal mist]

And the diver suit is probably a recolour

[balmy condor]

it is

[normal mist]

Of something we already had

[vestal wren]

the rest is fine

like some are grindy

but not 1M point grindy

[normal mist]

New items/models >>>> recolours

[vestal wren]

can do in an afternoon

[balmy condor]

oh I guess there's a couple charms

[normal mist]

Yeah I like my HD T2 in purple.... but that's it

[balmy condor]

and a fish mace

[vestal wren]

btw. if you want to do it

[honest comet]

What's the fastest m+ dungeon to farm shards from?

I've done a bunch of skyreach, but man the quality of people in +10-12 is wild. Literal garbage or gods, no inbetween

[vestal wren]

you can buy the item that gives a quest

then accept the quest

and sell the item back

[mortal crag]

The fish mace is kinda sick ngl

[vestal wren]

not that it matters, but less grind

[mortal crag]

It like floops about

[vestal wren]

the weapon fish transmog is nice

if you don't have the one from islands

housing stuff for exp only

[balmy condor]

I think the actual FASTEST is probably nexus point?

[vestal wren]

(tho everyone is exp capped in housing atm)

[balmy condor]

or maybe pit?

[golden loom]

Pit is the goddamn goat

[honest comet]

Pit has crossed my mind

[balmy condor]

I guess skyreach probably fast too

any of the 3

[mortal crag]

Sky is fast

[balmy condor]

probably pretty close

just avoid seat and terrace

those are slow as shit

[vestal wren]

you can do the delves too, they are typically fast

[golden loom]

like honestly the dungeon pool this season is so good, but I also don't really care about pushing keys

[mortal crag]

I’ve got sky on lock after grinding it non stop for mythic shit

[balmy condor]

oh true

[honest comet]

Skyreach takes about 12-15 minutes. Unless the group is garbo

[balmy condor]

can just stealth through some delve

[mortal crag]

Seat is ass

[golden loom]

u only get shards 100% from bountiful delves tho

[vestal wren]

think they need to be 11 tho

[mortal crag]

Fuck seat

[golden loom]

so max 4 per day

[mortal crag]

Apparently tier 5 ritual is quite good

[vestal wren]

seat isn't that bad tbh

[golden loom]

u also only get shards 100% from 2 nightmare preys weekly (the first 2 that give a box)

[mortal crag]

But also like, na

[vestal wren]

i hated seat starting of the season

its fine

i would like to do cleave damage tho

3 boss fight is kinda meh on sub

[mortal crag]

Yea

[golden loom]

playing third boss as arms warrior is infinite dopamine

[mortal crag]

Some of the pulls kinda feel like, small as well

Idk it just feels like it drags

[balmy condor]

On any rogue spec

[runic hinge]

Seat pretty fast

[balmy condor]

They took precise cuts from outlaw, gutted caustic spatter on sin

And sub is well… it’s sub

[vestal wren]

rogue def. competes with "the best of the worse"

outlaw/sin feel slightly better

but its a water drop on a hot stone

[mortal crag]

What’s this?

[vestal wren]

mythic paladins

[mortal crag]

Oh lol

Yo fuck you shaman

Bench this guy

[vestal wren]

sub was last recently

[mortal crag]

Where’s boomy

[vestal wren]

but seems like ele tok over the last place

balance is middle of the pack

[mortal crag]

Going by my guilds boomies they should be bottom bottom

[vestal wren]

hunter is leading

[mortal crag]

Hunter seems so good this season

[vestal wren]

think its just uncommon now

for specs to get nerfed heavily

[golden loom]

the 12.0.5 changes to marksman made me not log into mine again

[vestal wren]

i mean

pick dk or devourerer

[golden loom]

im a havoc gamer

[vestal wren]

and you got rewarded heavily for playing op / meta chasing

[golden loom]

my first 2 vaults were a myth puzzlebox and then a myth axe (which doesnt have int)

did try a couple of keys as dev and it felt good to play but I prefer melee and havoc

[mortal crag]

Dev defo struggles if ur tanks a shitter though

[vestal wren]

you struggle as a rogue too if your tank pulls 3 mobs at the time

[rocky holly]

tank chain pulls mobs 3 at a time

[vestal wren]

or in raid if strategies don't play around having melee dps (which is common)

[rocky holly]

no restealth

[vestal wren]

we have a tank like this in the guild

he "chain" pulls, when the last mob is low, so you can't re-stealth

and 3 at the time most of the time

enough to do 12-14s

[rocky holly]

nightmare fuel

[golden loom]

are u telling me playing 6 melee dps on paladins/crown was sub-optimal?

[quiet star]

tbh for me is not issue with restealth, but energy problems

[rocky holly]

like in monsters inc except instead of kids screaming it’s rogues screaming because no restealth and vanish is CD from the last 3 mob chain pull

[shy axle]

no, it is how it should be

[vestal wren]

paladins is a fun fight

[golden loom]

Actually agree

[vestal wren]

play subtlety, your energy is solved

[mortal crag]

I mean more like going into and out of meta constantly is annoying

[quiet star]

never(until I will get guidon)

[mortal crag]

Join us

[golden loom]

My soak spot was with 3x unholy dks that didnt care cause they have ranged abilities

[mortal crag]

You don’t have to track bleeds

[quiet star]

but that the fun part, you know

[rocky holly]

sub is so fun until you’re fresh out of dance and theres 2 or 3 mobs that are ~5% hp that won’t die because everyone is holding and you’re out of energy and hit like a wet noodle

[mortal crag]

……ignore that bit

[balmy condor]

I have exactly 2 pulls on paladins, one kill, and I do not wish to have any more

I was starting to fall asleep halfway through the first pull already

[mortal crag]

I like paladins

I wish we weren’t fuckn awful on it

I think dragons is my least favourite personally

[balmy condor]

It just felt like a classic mechanic vomit council fight

Gotta dodge 5 things, each guy got his special ability

Gotta kill at the same time

[mortal crag]

What was the dude in dragon flight who’d like get different shaman abilities as you moved him across the room

[balmy condor]

Kurog

[mortal crag]

That fight was fuckn sick

[balmy condor]

He was cool yeah

Primal council was also kinda cool that raid

One of the less sloppy council fights

[golden loom]

Paladins is atleast 10x more fun than soul hunters

[mortal crag]

Him and sludge were my favourites

[balmy condor]

Cap

[golden loom]

(I might be biased against soul hunters cause I was dead on the kill for my first 5 kills of it)

on 3 diff chars

[balmy condor]

Soul hunters kinda sucked but it was more engaging and the intermissions were cool with the chains and stuff

[mortal crag]

Castle nath was such a good raid

[balmy condor]

Paladins the special ability is “tank needs to run it off your screen”

[golden loom]

Soul hunters felt way more like mechanic vomit

[balmy condor]

Yeah at some points that’s true

[rocky holly]

sin is just so perfect perfect dmg profile perfect playstyle, only thing that isn’t perfect is that both other specs got 2 buffs in a row

[golden loom]

and the intermissions on rogue was kinda interesting to live but then u played DK on it and u legit could afk

[balmy condor]

So just dk on anything

[golden loom]

yeah class is unfair

[balmy condor]

Our dk player legit does zero prep going into a fight

And just learns it as he goes

But he learns faster than 2/3rds of our raid

So he’s giga chilling

[golden loom]

atleast on crown they have to jump the gap (which one of our dks failed a few times)

[balmy condor]

Cause he can just ignore half the mechanics and get away with it

Bro on crown

The first time we saw intermission

He legit just sat there and didn’t eat an arrow

The entire intermission

Pressed amz

Afk’d next to the boss

And then went “that kinda hurts”

[golden loom]

DK on p3 dimmy vibes

everyone is in hell they are singing payphone

[balmy condor]

Cannot believe those fuckers are asking for a raid buff

They just aren’t affected by half the raid

And are required hard stack on the last 2 bosses in every tier for the last 3 years

They have an immune

Amz

And then they’re fucking bitching about “man we don’t bring anything”

[golden loom]

they have 2 walls (lichborne and IBF) on top of actually just having infinite talents making them unkillable

death strike??

[balmy condor]

Insane work

Don’t they have a cheat death

Is purg just blood

[golden loom]

blood DK does ye

[balmy condor]

Dps doesnt?

[golden loom]

nope but dps has this

[balmy condor]

Oh great

[quiet star]

currently you describe assa/sub

[balmy condor]

Yes, rogue shares one of the five things I mentioned

As does mage and paladin and hunter

????

[quiet star]

just a joke, but rogues really benefit from hald of raid buffs, have cheat death, have immune,
like dk but worse

[golden loom]

wait maybe will of the necropolis was removed?

cant find it anymore

buff dk !

[mortal crag]

Frost did get a buff

Seems like it got pretty good

[quiet star]

not enough

[golden loom]

nevermind its still there!

its even better than what I linked

[quiet star]

[mortal crag]

Rogues sure do like to talk about dks a lot

[balmy condor]

I said ignore half the raid mechanics not benefit from raid buffs

[balmy condor]

Bullshit class gets talked about yeh

[golden loom]

to be fair I think havoc is almost as tanky as DK this tier

[quiet star]

oh my bad, but rogue also can do a lot with cloak, but of course it's a shit version of green armor

[balmy condor]

DK’s just be standing in shit

[golden loom]

blur being a 2 charge 1 min cd - 10 second duration 35% wall ispretty good

[balmy condor]

We have a survival hunter with a dk alt

He did crown as a survival hunter, recleared as dk cause he’s playing it on belo/lura

[golden loom]

also this when u blade dance every 6 seconds and after every eye beam u blade dance twice is actually op as fuck

[balmy condor]

And he legit was like “dude what the fuck is dk I don’t care about anything”

[golden loom]

and what the fuck is this btw

[quiet star]

the f

[balmy condor]

24% leech in midnight healer meta where you don’t get one shot by everything

Is wild

[golden loom]

yeah I am telling you havoc is not fair

its just outshined by dev

[quiet star]

they actually have huge aoe with aura

really big numbers

[golden loom]

this + another talent that gives 6% magic Dr

every soul you pick up heals you for a shitton aswell

[balmy condor]

Need that tattoo shop address

[quiet star]

[balmy condor]

Yeah but 30% chance on this and 20% on danger sense, no?

[mortal crag]

I’ve been seeing more of them recently

[quiet star]

depends on how it's calculated

[mortal crag]

I guess the devourer nerf pushed some back to havoc

[balmy condor]

So that’s 30x20 = 600% chance to avoid 20x10 = 200% damage

That’s op!

[quiet star]

nerf rogue

[golden loom]

but the damage taken compared to how big our HP is this tier makes the 15% max hp shield on blade dance really op

[balmy condor]

They’re independent btw, so you can get both to proc on the same damage

In case you didn’t know

[quiet star]

I didn't thx

but still while it's a rng proc

it's not that useful as DR with 35% damage

[balmy condor]

I mean the fact that it’s rng is what makes it bullshit

[quiet star]

I mean it would be good on tank

[golden loom]

even last season I did nexus king and dimmy on Fury and Havoc before I did it on assa, going from 2 unkillable specs to rogue on those fights was kinda eye opening

[balmy condor]

But the numbers themselves are kinda good

[quiet star]

but not on rogue with 420k hp

[golden loom]

the nexusking claws did 0 damage to fury, instead you did like 16m damage to the boss when you got them

[mortal crag]

How’s the dps monk doing

I haven’t seen many of them

[balmy condor]

It’s more just that damage intake is more spikey on a dps than a tank most of the time

Like you get hit by a mechanic, it does giga dam, you get healed

[golden loom]

think windwalker is kinda good atm? idk

[balmy condor]

If you proc, gg

Tanks just get slapped 24/7

[quiet star]

current experience in keys - I can randomly survive/die if I fucked up feint/cloak

not really helps

[balmy condor]

So having something that reduces every couple autos is fine

[quiet star]

so you still play for feint cloak to mitigate, and this thing is just unclear why squishy class need it

still I'm not complaining on that, but design choice is strange to me

feint is super op anyway

[balmy condor]

They’re doing fine but I think it’s all fists of fury atm

[blazing totem]

monks slap

[balmy condor]

So it’s kinda poop if they can’t get it off

Like Vorasius adds they’re useless

[blazing totem]

was looking at graphs and they get insane value out of PI right now

probably for Fists channel?

[balmy condor]

Yeh

Giga haste

They’re bonkers with pi cause all their shit is channel and hasted cds

They do big dam though

Just kind of a whack profile I think

[golden loom]

yeah theres some thing with blackout kick hitting again depending on haste or smthing aswell right

[blazing totem]

the dmg is there but not sure monk players are happy with how it all plays out

it's kinda cringe

[golden loom]

RSK*

[tall atlas]

any poppin M+ assa guides?

[balmy condor]

What are we looking for out of an m+ guide

Basically just press cds on cd, ct till everything has bleeds

Spam envenom like usual

[red schooner]

Time to watch a compromised account get shot

[balmy condor]

!ban @split apex spam

[red schooner]

Neat.

[nova aspen]

naughty jason clickin links

[strange wolf]

i mean honestly M+ on assa is quite easy. the only thing you need to learn is. See this guy. alr click kingsbane on this guy

[normal mist]

"Where did the guy went 5 seconds after my cast???"

[strange wolf]

there is no guy in basingsee

[quiet star]

ok it looks like I'm hallucinating but sometimes I died in cloak from void zones

there is no bug like that right? and it's jut my bad timing?

[spice surge]

Lots of stuff go through cloak these days

[plain thistle]

yeah, its not legion anymore

bring back soak of sargeras

[storm forum]

next expac cloak is gonna just be a phys dr with DS

[quiet star]

shouldn't it protect from every magic thing?

[indigo thicket]

is there a "low key build" similar to bleed build last xpac?

[storm forum]

yeah

[spice surge]

Youd think so

[storm forum]

its in the faq

as TINY BOY WEEKLY KEYS or something

[plain thistle]

blizzard doesnt want that anymore, lots of stuff go through immunities

[spice surge]

Yeah but that's fight defining debuffs that's supposed to go through

Not a random purple voidzone on the ground

[plain thistle]

thats fair

[spice surge]

Like in seat the big voidwalkers AOE goes through cloak but does not go through bubble

It seems insanely arbitrary which spells go through in dungeons

[sharp viper]

some encounter dev has a grudge against rogues immuning a lot of mechanics 9 years ago

member when cloak was 1 min cd

[spice surge]

As was cheat

[sharp viper]

cries in AMS

[clear knoll]

What’s the benefit of lil boy weekly keys. Just puts out dmg faster?

[severe meadow]

Get vault done

Go next

[clear knoll]

I meant the build

Sorry

[severe meadow]

Unless you mean build, SD good in lower keys

Stuff dies really which adds value to it

[sharp viper]

*pads value to it

[severe meadow]

Ye

[quiet star]

that actually place where I died yesterday

how can I check what cloak protects and what not?

[spice surge]

!def

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[quiet star]

thx

it's a fking rocket science now

[spice surge]

Always has been

[quiet star]

and this shit kills me today

at least I'm not crazy

but I would prefer to be crazy and have normal cloack tbh

[clear knoll]

What’s SD

[quiet star]

sudden demise

[clear knoll]

Ah thanks

[rugged basalt]

Why did wowhead make an article out of one boss' ability from one dungeon

😭

[blazing totem]

cuz they are desperate for content

same as that one post that was totally AI-generated a few days back

or the post that "showed" how to reach lvl 90 fast

and all that post was about was "go watch this YT video" or "go read this reddit post"

yeah gee thanks

[royal lantern]

bro its reset day, log into your 3 fully geared alts and bonus roll on them and then upgrade the items so you get discounts on your main or you are 5ilvl behind

[severe meadow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dodge-fetid-quillstorm-every-time-on-the-first-boss-of-maisara-caverns-381583

Jokes on you buddy, I timed my key because this told me not to stand in a circle

[clear knoll]

Yall use potion of recklessness?

I been using the yellow one

[civic trellis]

i use the holy dmg proc one out of spite

[coral ibex]

im sorry

is this a whole article about how to not stand in a circle

[severe meadow]

Yeah

Comedic timing because it’s a new post

[coral ibex]

me when i need a wowhead article to know how to pilot my character out of a ground effect

[royal lantern]

Gamers would be angry about that, if they could read

[blazing totem]

comments peak as always

[solar wyvern]

I mean its not just "dodge swirls lol" its telling you about a safespot where they never spawn that is actually fairly useful

Been preaching about ts day 1 tho so i guess squishei started doing higher keys to get 3400 and is learning tech kekw

[fresh kelp]

just dodge swirls lol

[golden loom]

what if u just dodge the swirls instead lol

[severe meadow]

I guess for an uptime point of view it's good, if you don't want a few seconds of downtime

[solar wyvern]

Why think when u can zug

[frosty cedar]

that cannot be real

is wowhead now a slop merchant, like icyveins AI generated twitter posts?

[weary stump]

Mostly yes

Pookie is still our reliable knowledgebase though

[jaunty bluff]

I feel like for some large pulls im spamming CT too much, I know spreading the bleeds is prio but is there a point where you can stop trying to spread to every mob?

[frosty cedar]

nope, spread them bleeds boy

[jaunty bluff]

OK spread to everything then pop cds right?

[frosty cedar]

I wouldnt say so, it depends on how long the mobs are going to last. If you will definitely get your full cds off on your main target, you can spread enough to guarantee the agility buff at max

spreading past that before CDS is not necessary

unless your doing very high keys, most of the time, you can just send CDs and spread as your builder during cds

[runic hinge]

I don’t think wowhead is using AI to write articles. I do think they are pumping out as many articles as possible for engagement farming and clicks to drive ad revenue so they can make money

[jaunty bluff]

Yeah I think ill try that then, cause im only doing like 12s/13s as Sin atm til I get a better feel for it, and it just felt like mt CDs were wasted by the time I spread bleeds to everything in a large pack

[blazing totem]

while definitely not every post, there are some that read straight out of a prompt

I would say majority is written by a human, but the quality of some can definitely be questioned

I don't think it's even the author's fault per se, I suspect wowhead is just pushing people to push things out to make money and drive engagement

which means the authors get paid some small sum, naturally

I just miss the old style of wowhead posts being long and detailed guides about events, mechanics or dungeons, it looks like they went the route of splitting these articles into multiple separate posts so you end up with the influx of all these one paragraph posts

[real pike]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Resources:

• ArcUI - Common UI Replacement
  BetterCDM - Enhancements to the Cooldown Manager
• MSUF - Common Unit Frame replacement
• Platynator - Recommended Nameplate Addon (Plater is not recommended)
  (Jundies Profile)
  (Whispyr's Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - Poison Reminder
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator and cursor replacement

[rugged basalt]

i got aotc yippee

i'll take it

[grizzled wedge]

hey anyone got good talents for assass on mythic dragons in voidspire?

[rapid patio]

finally!

[runic hinge]

Whisp you had the orange creamsicle monster yet

It says wickedly creamy

[severe meadow]

CE time..

[rugged basalt]

im basically rogue to worlds first material now

[pure moth]

Now you have to make a second rogue

Games over

[rugged basalt]

shibal

[tight ginkgo]

[true tusk]

Hey guys, I uploaded a log where the Skyreach parse was decent (85%), 127k in 17 timed, but then when I go to the bio it shows 119k and 60%, why?

[royal lantern]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/midnight-season-1-raid-tips

[grizzled wedge]

ty

[sinful fable]

For assa in bigger pulls, for example first pull AA, we open on a big flower, bleeds up, pot trinket and cds, but how much do we Crimson tempest there? Literally only use it as our only builder to spread to everything? or is there a point where we stop for FoK

[rugged basalt]

Honestly I don't recall ever having FoK'd for that first pull

[blazing totem]

on huge pull count you just spam crimson tempest afaik

[rugged basalt]

ct env spam pull ya

[sinful fable]

ayaya then I'm not goofing

ty frens

[rugged basalt]

u may be

just not on that pull

[sinful fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-jim-carrey-spank-you-helpy-helperton-movie-quotes-thanks-gif-11496873

Do you send cds after opening on 1 target, or spread 1-2 CT's first?

in aoe ofc

[jolly stirrup]

happy with that

[quaint dragon]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal scaffold]

can anyone give me a shadowmeld stealth macro? mine seems to be not working

[waxen oyster]

dont move

and dont take any damage from anything

[pure moth]

Can you share your log. Thats one fight I haven't been able to fix yet.

[limber lion]

Is Assa fun this patch?

[stuck lodge]

Very nice! You do the group 2 double down strat?

[golden loom]

ye would say so

[balmy condor]

This old style of wowhead post doesn’t exist because that style of post cannot survive on the internet anymore